Historian and blogger gave his thoughts on some of the problems with partial mobilization

Russian historian and popular YouTube blogger Klim Zhukov expressed his opinion about the problems with partial mobilization in Russia.

The publicist considers the reforms carried out in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2008 as one of them. According to him, on the one hand, a contract army was built in our country and the equipment of the troops was improved, but on the other hand, it suddenly turned out that the efforts of the “strongly sagging in numbers” army are now not enough.

In turn, the call for reservists does not always and everywhere go smoothly. The very people who served in the military could lose their skills. After all, systematic gathering of reservists and their training all this time most often was not carried out.

However, according to Zhukov, this is not the main problem.

According to the historian, Russian authorities accuse "non-patriots" who are trying to avoid mobilization of taking the position of "my hut is on the edge" and "these are not my problems" when the Motherland was in danger.

At the same time, as the expert put it, that same Motherland has been responding to its citizens in the same way for 30 years. You can’t make ends meet - these are your problems, a loved one needs an operation - similarly, a doctor or teacher has a small salary - go into business.

Now, according to Zhukov, when some of our compatriots heeded the advice of the authorities and solved their problems themselves, including by opening a business, they must urgently drop everything and go to defend their Motherland, which has been “taking care of them” all this time.

As a result, the blogger came to the conclusion that ordinary Russians and “decision-making centers” apparently have different homelands.

The statements of the well-known blogger and historian can be treated differently, but the fact remains: there are excesses on the ground, and the “stick and check” work of individual military commissars. Fortunately, over time, many of the problems associated with partial mobilization are identified and resolved. And not least, this happens after the announcement of specific inconsistencies and problems by the military commanders, the mobilized themselves and their close relatives. I would like to hope that the problems will be solved actively and effectively for the benefit of the Fatherland and the people.

Comments

[gansales]

I believe only Bloggers of our Donbass .. And the rest are talkers!
The whiners are gaining momentum now .. But it's too late. The decree has been signed and it is necessary to protect the territory of Russia and move further, driving this evil spirits to the borders of Poland, etc.
Russia endured too long, trying to negotiate!
And mobilization is underway and has long been .. The mobilization reserve is being checked! 200 thousand fled - this is the secretive fifth column. Already put them on a pencil! And most of the mobilized will just go home .. I'm sure of it
THIS WAS A LICENSE CHECK!!!
PS There are experienced fighters in Russia and they will go easy, give only machine guns and tanks .. They will sweep Europe to hell ..
But while such a task is not worth it! The goal is to overwhelm the USA and unite the countries of the world against these moneylenders ..

[Dartanian]

Do you work at the headquarters? Where did such data about lice come from?

[gansales]

Quote from Dartanyan

Do you work at the headquarters? Where did such data about lice come from?

Well, how would you say all this .. Well, in short, this is my analytics.
Will that suit you?
You see how all the runners from the territories bordering Russia minus me!
Operation "fifth column" was carried out successfully ..
And now you can work safely!
PS These border runners were all recorded hehe

[Aerodrome]

for clarity, to the newcomers, because the "old people" know .. "gonzales", he is in the common people - "mikhan", he is also the "department" he is "mikhanishche", and about a dozen two more accounts - FAT TROLL. and a professional provocateur, has been clogging the air for ten years. drive him to zero. I'll "mihan" you, I'll finish you off.

[Dartanian]

Thank you. Now it is clear. Bravura balabol he is in the course in general ....

[January]

Never mind. He's the local cissos-traitor champion and exclamation mark lover.
The MO reports all its plans to him at night.

[Berkut752]

gansales, firstly, I will be 68, in 3 months, and my military specialization is not quite correct, I press the buttons, but I admire you. BUT how do you like them: "And the rest of the talkers",
"The whiners are gaining momentum now..But it's too late."
And why himself without a machine gun.

[gansales]

Quote: Berkut752

gansales, firstly, I will be 68, in 3 months, and my military specialization is not quite correct, I press the buttons, but I admire you. BUT how do you like them: "And the rest of the talkers",
"The whiners are gaining momentum now..But it's too late."
And why himself without a machine gun.

Deregistered by age, but if they call me, I’ll go silently, at least by someone as a carrier, a cook, “cannon fodder”, in the end, it’s not scary to die for the Fatherland .. In the meantime, I’m crushing Claudia and chasing alarmists .. After all, again they can “wine” Russia, as in the late 80s and 90s, was also whined from all the media, etc.
Of course, sometimes I write pretentiously, well, as best I can .. Look how angry a gang of whiners is at me here hehe
We will break through, not the first time .. Good luck to you Valentine!

[Berkut752]

gansales, THE FORMER DOES NOT HAPPEN IF YOU TAKE THE OATH ...............
Even if you were deregistered., but NOT CLEARED FROM LIFE ..............

[hohol95]

Are you working with the XNUMXs?
They lived on the money of the country, and when they received an order to act, they refused to carry it out!
Is there any information on contract soldiers who terminated military contracts or remained in the army who refused to participate in the SVO?

[Vladimir M]

Here also it is necessary to call first of all, terminated contracts. Fortunately, now it is possible, according to the law, to attract refuseniks. They received money, benefits ...., but how it smelled of fried, in the bushes.

[Emergency]

In any case, they are the first to mobilize. And it has already been announced.

[gansales]

Quote: hohol95

Are you working with the XNUMXs?

It goes and is very specific .. We ran in a panic hehe

Quote: hohol95

They lived on the money of the country, and when they received an order to act, they refused to carry it out!

These are the ones they are calculating now, so that later, in which case, they would not shoot in the back ..

Quote: hohol95

Is there any information on contract soldiers who terminated military contracts or remained in the army who refused to participate in the SVO?

These special contingents, they needed money, but they were not going to fight. These are the most dangerous, future Vlasovites!
Everyone will check now Russia!
Who is worth what, especially in Moscow!

[xeotyrj81]

Well done Klim, that competently highlighted the problem.

[Quote Lavrov]

And VO, for having decided to publish such an article - great respect.

[Alexey Lantukh]

Actually, it was not Ukraine that attacked Russia, but exactly the opposite. This has a huge media role. This is what all "Ukrainians" and their TV say. This is what ours say. And the fact that it was necessary to help the Donbass and the red lines is already the second, the last with which not everyone agrees, although the overwhelming majority of Russians are probably on the side of the Donbass. The mediocre beginning of the SVO, in which the political leadership is to blame, also played its role. Recognition of the independence of the DPR-LPR is the right way. And "hit first" is a strategic mistake, it was necessary to wait for the Bandera strike, since they were sure that they would attack, and keep the troops at the ready, while strengthening ahead of time the troops of the DPR LPR, which were, especially mobilized, weak.

[15210]

Agree and also:
If you "beat first" then it is to beat, and not to clap your hands and you need to prepare before and not on time and after.
Why have we been supplying oil products to Ukraine since 2014 and trading with them in general if they fired at "our people"?

[Turtle]

Why have we been supplying oil products to Ukraine since 2014 and trading with them in general if they fired at "our people"?

The answer to this question is given in the video attached to the article.

[nickname7]

This has a huge media role.

Stupidity, the media role is played by those who control the media.
The Kremlin did not poison the Skripals, but the world believes that it did.

[Turtle]

Who pays, he orders. I love Orwell - he was a competent futurologist.

[paul3390]

Scarabeus is generally very smart. If it weren’t for his stubbornness on the Norman theory, there would be no price for a peasant ..

[Aleksandre]

Quote: paul3390

If not for his obstinacy on the Norman theory

The most stubborn people in the Norman theory are archaeologists, because they constantly dig up something Norman, the number is much larger to be an accident, and convincing them that they would immediately bury it back and not embarrass opponents of the theory is a completely hopeless task.

[paul3390]

Well, yes .. And archaeologists in 500 years, digging up your apartment, judging by the finds, will ironically come to the conclusion that Russia was just a province of Greater China ..

[Aleksandre]

Quote: paul3390

Well, yes .. And archaeologists in 500 years, digging up your apartment, judging by the finds, will ironically come to the conclusion that Russia was just a province of Greater China ..

In this place, it was probably worth writing in detail, on the basis of what archaeologists of the future should draw such conclusions?

[paul3390]

Based on the country of origin of your material culture... After all, this is what modern archaeologists draw conclusions from?

[Aleksandre]

Quote: paul3390

Based on the country of origin of your material culture... After all, this is what modern archaeologists draw conclusions from?

Well, if you have reason to believe that I am the owner of a pair of chests of Chinese porcelain, fans and a red robe with dragons, then yes, that is exactly what they would conclude. It's a pity that I don't have all this.

[paul3390]

As I understand it - on your smartphone and other equipment there is a proud inscription Made in Russia ??

[Aleksandre]

Quote: paul3390

As I understand it - on your smartphone and other equipment there is a proud inscription Made in Russia ??

For the sake of interest, I looked at the nearest things: an Irish trench coat, Spanish boots, Turkish jeans, a xs T-shirt, Chinese underpants (they are not written, by the way, but I know for sure). Phone: Nokia Finnish original, Sonya-compact like Malaysia, like the panel on the wall that works as a cinema.
These spherical archaeologists of yours must conclude that my apartment was the center of the universe, where they brought gifts from all over the earth and made "ku"? Or they would say: it’s easy for us now, went into the teleport at the right station, went out at the store, bought it, came back, but before people made orders through the global network and waited for delivery for a week, poor fellows.

[would]

In your opinion, in the era of the birth of the Old Russian state, did planes fly in the same way and trains run?

This "argument" is as old as the world and breaks down corny about the fact that there was no globalization at the time. It was impossible just to order a couple of hundred Scandinavian swords and helmets over the Internet with delivery to Russia.

I am already silent about the funeral rites and various records of the Arabs and Byzantines.

[paul3390]

Come on! The luxuries commonly found in graves have always been preferably imported. And they brought them - in considerable numbers. In fact, not much has changed even now. For any fingered boyar, a Frankish or Arab sword is, first of all, a status, even if one's own is no worse in quality. For his own - an ordinary combatant can buy his own money, but imports are by no means available to everyone. And immediately highlights its owner.

Let's say in the USSR - Tver jeans were no worse than American ones in quality. He had both. But everyone needed the magic label Montana.. Why? Yes, for the same reason that the boyar wanted the sword of Ulfbert, and not Ludota!

Funeral rites - well, and many of them are purely Scandinavian? Otherwise, even the presence of a Scandinavian comb in the grave - nonech is given as iron proof of the ethnicity of the buried ..

Records - well, give me at least one that would clearly and clearly testify precisely to the Scandinavian origin of Russia? For everything known to me can be interpreted in two ways ..

[would]

Well, let's give examples of where, when and from whom imported luxury goods were found.

In fact, not much has changed even now.

What has changed is that it became possible to bring them. If today a Chinese product is the norm in Russia, then the discovery of a Chinese sword in an ancient Russian burial is immediately a sensation.

Actually, I'm writing about it.

Records - well, give me at least one that would clearly and clearly testify precisely to the Scandinavian origin of Russia? For everything known to me can be interpreted in two ways ..

Firstly, I do not understand what "Scandinavian origin of Russia" means. The Scandinavians were only one of the communities that participated in the objective process of the origin of Russia. It was not the Scandinavians who started this process.

Let's start with the Russian-Byzantine treaty of 944

We are ambassadors and merchants from the Russian family, Ivor, ambassador of Igor, the Grand Duke of Russia, and general ambassadors: Vuefast from Svyatoslav, son of Igor; Iskusevi from Princess Olga; Sludy from Igor, nephew Igorev; Uleb from Volodyslav; Kanitsar from Predslava; Shihbern Sfandr from Uleb's wife; Prasten Tudorov; Libiar Fastov; Grim Sfirkov; Prasten Akun, Igorev's nephew; Kara Tudkov; Karshev Tudorov; Egri Evliskov; Voist Voikov; Istr Aminodov; Prasten Bernow; Yavtyag Gunarev; Hybrid Aldan; Kol Klekov; Steggy Etonov; Sfirka...; Alvad Gudov; Fudri Tuadov; Mutur Utin; merchants Adun, Adulb, Yggivlad, Uleb, Frutan, Gomol, Kutsi, Emig, Turobid, Furosten, Bruny, Roald, Gunastre, Frasten, Igeld, Turbern, Monet, Ruald, Sven, Stir, Aldan, Tilen, Apubeksar, Vuzlev, Sinko , Borich, sent from Igor, the Grand Duke of Russia, and from every prince, and from all the people of the Russian land.

Do I need to talk about the ethnicity of all the names listed here? And this is the elite of Russia - the Grand Duke and ambassadors.

Now let's remember the funeral of a noble Rus at Ibn Fadlan. I will not give a full quote because it is long, but Ibn Fadlan himself, without knowing it, described the rite of a Scandinavian funeral.

Well, let's finish with the first historical mention of the Russians, among those very Byzantines

With them [ambassadors], he [Theophilus] sent some more [people] who claimed that they, that is, their people (gens), are called ros (Rhos) and that their king (rex), called khakan (chacanus), sent them to him, as they assured, for the sake of friendship. In the aforementioned message, he [Theophilus] asked that, by the grace of the emperor and with his help, they should be able to safely return through his empire, since the path by which they arrived to him in Constantinople lay through the lands of barbarian and, in their extreme savagery, exceptionally fierce peoples. and he did not want them to return this way, so that they would not be exposed to any danger on occasion. After carefully investigating [the purpose] of their arrival, the emperor [Louis] learned that they were from the people of the Svei (Sueones), and, considering them rather spies both in that country and in ours, than ambassadors of friendship, decided to himself to detain them until then until it is possible to find out for certain whether they came in good faith or not.

Svei are Swedes.

Is it enough?

[chingachguc]

Buddy, you misunderstand archeology. Archeology, like any science, has a methodology. Study and it will become clear to you

[paul3390]

My friend - even in my distant youth, alas, I went on archaeological expeditions from the Palace of Pioneers .. Yes, and then it happened. So - I have no idea about the methods by hearsay ..

[nickname7]

Scarabeus is generally very smart

He is clever as a connoisseur of research by other authors, he talks about the past, relying on someone else's opinion, but on his own, based on current events, he is not able to draw deep conclusions.

[Pavel57]

Mobilization is staged very badly: they are called according to the lists of the last century. Absolutely not those categories that should be called upon, more than the training units can digest. And the question is: Who will compensate for the loss of a small business, where the owner of the business and the breadwinner of the family are all rolled into one.

[nikanikolich]

so how do they know that you are "Lyapkin-hoes", since they simply do not control the situation, there is no order to follow, so they sit on the priest evenly and do not shine. I received a medal for "Afghan" purely by chance - I came to change my certificate and at the military registration and enlistment office they were so surprised why I was not "covered". And this was after Serdyukov, before this "commander" for some reason the system worked, and after the zeal of the senior lieutenant everything went to hell

[Saboteur_Navy]

Mobilization is proceeding normally, such a scale cannot be carried out without mistakes, the main conclusions must be drawn! All without exception, both billionaires with millionaires and senior officials with workers, should be subject to mobilization, and in this situation a skilled worker in the rear is MUCH MORE NECESSARY THAN A BILLIONAIRE WITH A MILLIONAIRE, this must always be remembered!
I would also advise you to transfer the police and the National Guard from the Ministry of Emergency Situations and the Federal Penitentiary Service to the troops of the Ministry of Defense, and instead of them, you need to equip private security companies and bring them to guard the order under the guidance of experienced pensioners of the security forces! It is necessary to leave only 10 percent of the operatives of the ugro on the spot and call on them again pensioners of the former opers of the ugro
And everything will be OK

[Procopius Nesterov]

Complete nonsense, there are 100 billionaires and they manage a bunch of enterprises. Do you want production to stop or become less efficient due to poor management?

[Saboteur_Navy]

I’ll tell you a secret, billionaires haven’t run enterprises at all for 20 years now, hired managers manage their process instead, and they did it for two reasons - the first and main one, to avoid responsibility, and the second they got tired of everything a long time ago! YES AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING. THERE THE ENGINEER LEADS EVERYTHING
At the enterprise, a turner is much more important and necessary now than a billionaire

[Saboteur_Navy]

The communists won the war by the way, do not forget about the role of the CPSU and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Stalin and his Marshals who were communists
THEY SAME Communists kept every single one of the factories!!! and now you are yapping here, having personally done nothing, apparently

[Procopius Nesterov]

Factories, and the products from these factories were needed by Soviet citizens? And then they were chasing imported products. As an alternative appeared, the products of these factories became unnecessary. People voted with their rubles.

[Alexey Lantukh]

"The Communists won the war by the way, do not forget about the role of the CPSU and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Stalin and his Marshals who were communists"
The war was won by the United States, and the British, and even the French, in which non-communists ruled. We won, but with huge losses, about which most people still don’t know anything, because it’s not customary to talk about them, and in the days of the USSR, the topic was generally closed.

[Dude]

The war was won <...> and even the French

About the French victors, there is a good phrase attributed to Keitel

We won, but with huge losses...

And what do you think, in the World War, opposing, in fact, the whole of Europe, it was possible to win with little bloodshed?
In addition, military the losses of the USSR and the Axis are quite comparable.
The losses of the Soviet Union among civil of the population is certainly a multiple higher. Which is indisputable evidence of the atrocities of Nazi Germany and the satellites on the territory of our country.

[Alexey Lantukh]

The topic of our losses and the losses of the enemy in the last war is still debatable. And people argue often those who do not have any historical knowledge. For example, do you know that during the war in our rear, millions of people died of starvation and disease (Leningrad does not count). So, not all people died from the atrocities of the Nazis. There are many reasons for this.

[Dude]

For example, do you know that during the war in our rear, millions of people died of starvation and disease (Leningrad does not count).

Can facts be given? Especially the calculation of the mass (Millions of the dead in the rear, you write) hunger?
It seems to me that you just really want to drink Bavarian

So, not all people died from the atrocities of the Nazis.

Stalin is worse than Hitler ©? Maria Zakharova, re-login!

[Dude]

So, not all people died from the atrocities of the Nazis. There are many reasons for this.

R. S. That is, death from hunger and disease, caused by the war, not on the conscience of the Nazis? Who is to blame then, I wonder ?!

[Alexey Lantukh]

The atrocities of the fascists are directly the atrocities in the territory occupied or surrounded (Leningrad) by the fascists, the bombing of the fascists on the territory of the USSR, as a result of which civilians died and nothing more. Of course, the war is on the conscience of the Nazis, but atrocities are somewhat different.

[Dude]

I'm waiting for the facts about the "millions who died of hunger," a fascist henchman. Will not? Of course, otherwise they would have had to be invented, and you, forelock Banderophiles, have a tight imagination, only sparing according to the methods - Holodomor ™, bloody gebnya ™, Stalin personally shot millions of people ™, etc.

[Alexey Lantukh]

During the war, the total human losses of the USSR - military personnel and civilians - amounted to 26,6 million people. Civilian casualties amounted to 13. Of these: 684 people were deliberately killed, 700 people died in forced labor in Germany, 7 people died from hunger, disease and lack of medical care.

[Dude]

Wikipedia with reference to Krivosheev is a so-so source.

[gansales]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

Communist bullshit. Are you working for the enemy, wanting to destroy the country's economy?

Bandera? hehe

[Procopius Nesterov]

What nonsense? I can’t stand Svidomo and Bandera, I consider Crimea to be Russian, but it was the Communists who stole it from Russia in 1954.

[gansales]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

What nonsense? I can’t stand Svidomo and Bandera, I consider Crimea to be Russian, but it was the Communists who stole it from Russia in 1954.

well, that's why they beat you ..
I'm sorry

[Dude]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

Complete nonsense, there are 100 billionaires and they manage a bunch of enterprises. Do you want production to stop or become less efficient due to poor management?

And I thought, what is the industry and production that remained in Russia that has not been finished off over the past 30 years? It turns out that on a hundred billionaires who appropriated the legacy of the Great Country
Here, it turns out, who are the saviors of the fatherland, the silverless, bending their backs, without sleep and rest, for our common good! ..
Without them all production will stop, turns out...
You still need to bow to their feet, probably?
One such, recently, gave iPhones to Azov people and rolled them on an airplane, entertaining them with conversations about football.
You don't work for him, do you?

[Saboteur_Navy]

Stopudovo on him, or on people like him!

[Dude]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

Stopudovo on him, or on people like him!

Naturally. Or on a salary, or, rather, a small 6, trying for scraps from the master's table.

[Procopius Nesterov]

We are fighting just because of the mistakes of the USSR, which stole land from Russia and created Ukraine.
The Soviet economy collapsed showing inefficiency. Queues, shortages and coupons forgotten?

[Dude]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

We are fighting just because of the mistakes of the USSR, which stole land from Russia and created Ukraine.
The Soviet economy collapsed showing inefficiency. Queues, shortages and coupons forgotten?

The USSR is Russia.
The Soviet economy was second in the world, just in case.
There is no need to carry out frank nonsense. Lines, shortages and coupons are just a consequence of its destruction by traitors in the highest echelons of power.

[Procopius Nesterov]

You created Ukraine, your communists stole Crimea from Russia in 1954.
Who is to blame for you that you brought up traitors. Once the system is unstable, it means it is inefficient.

[Dude]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

You created Ukraine, your communists stole Crimea from Russia in 1954.
Who is to blame for you that you brought up traitors. Once the system is unstable, it means it is inefficient.

... There was a crunch of a French roll©, it seems to me
We have created, our communists ... And you, whose will you be, dear man?

[edmed]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

We are fighting just because of the mistakes of the USSR, which stole land from Russia and created Ukraine.
The Soviet economy collapsed showing inefficiency. Queues, shortages and coupons forgotten?

So thin, already thick, you already change the manuals, well, or blow off the dust.

[victor50]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

Complete nonsense, there are 100 billionaires and they manage a bunch of enterprises. Do you want production to stop or become less efficient due to poor management?

Oh yeah! The effectiveness of these leaders is simply amazing! The country lives happily, rides like cheese in butter! And he has such an army! That you have to announce mobilization! Passing again under their leadership is extremely "effective". Maybe really, if they are at the forefront, then the economy will improve and the army will have everything it needs. Nonsense, of course, but should the "effective" be responsible for what is happening!? Not?

[Dude]

All, without exception, both billionaires with millionaires and top officials should be mobilized ...

Alas, not in our reality.

[nickname7]

billionaires

My friend, billionaires are closer in their capabilities to a superman; they can freely move around the earth on personal planes and ships. They have great organizational capabilities, using a billionaire in a trench is like hammering nails with a microscope. In pop culture, this is shown in the image of Batman who orders expensive analogue prodigies, at the peak of technology with which he wins, he was asked what your superpower is, he answered in money.
A billionaire can buy 10 armats and in this capacity he is more valuable. Why they don't do it is another question.

[Dude]

...using a billionaire in a trench is like hammering nails with a microscope...

Another 6 showed up Defender of the poor billionaires...

My friend, billionaires are closer in their capabilities to a superman; they can freely move around the earth on personal planes and ships. They have great organizational capabilities <...> In pop culture, this is shown in the image of Batman who orders expensive analogue prodigies ...

It seems like an adult uncle, but you still believe in Batman Or, not so mature?

A Billionaire Can Buy 10 Ar...

Maybe he can, but why doesn't he buy? The toad does not give! ..

[Romanovski]

"" "....According to Prigozhin, it is necessary to mobilize those who did not hold a machine gun in their hands, including those who served a year of military service and fired three rounds each. In addition, Yevgeny Prigozhin emphasized that representatives of strategically important professions , to which he attributed IT specialists, should not be subject to mobilization at all .... """.

[Alexey Lantukh]

They, those who, well, up to 35 years old, must be mobilized not in the last, but in the second, instead of conscripts. And train for at least six months. And then how the card will fall

[Procopius Nesterov]

Communist blogger forgot to add.

[v1tz]

Right yesterday, Putin said that we need Russia, and not those "elites" who keep loot abroad and live there, but with our small salaries, and especially pensions, we pay for the prosperous and fat life of the Anglo-Saxons. I hope the trend of the government will be changed to the support and rallying of the people.

[victor50]

Quote: v1tz

I hope the trend of the government will be changed to the support and rallying of the people.

Again he said something. It depends on who they understand by the people.

[FoBoss_V]

We have a wild number of employees in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the Russian Guard, the UK, the prosecutor's office, the courts, the Ministry of Emergency Situations. For years, people received buns, apartments, free travel, sanatorium resorts, and so on from the state .. But when the time came to repay debts, for some reason they pull people out of the villages, tear them away from the plow, factory workers, the most ordinary inhabitants, in general, all those to whom the state turns its back all these years, increasing retirement ages, removing benefits, cutting budgets and limits, bankrupting enterprises. Are they not ashamed of themselves? Damn shame..

[Procopius Nesterov]

The criteria for mobilization are published, that you are carrying a gag. Everyone who comes up is taken.

[FoBoss_V]

Stop it. The criteria said up to 35, a certain weight and the priority of having combat experience. I personally know several people called on the agenda, under 50 years of age, they said goodbye to the army 25-30 years ago, the naval fleet has no side to the steppes of Ukraine at all, there is no combat experience, but shitty eyesight and a lot of sores. After four days in training we have already departed to the west. So I don't need to talk about the criteria, okay? Because they are stupidly not there .. They row everyone to whom they can at least somehow reach out to give a plan, but the fact that in fact they send ready-made 200s to the front and not military commissar fighters just don’t give a damn.

[Procopius Nesterov]

I have nothing to talk about with alarmists.

[FoBoss_V]

Well, go to the front, you are our non-panic. What are you doing here on the couch?

[Procopius Nesterov]

Alarmists were shot during the war. Either you write rowing everyone, then go to the front. Your brain is messed up.

[FoBoss_V]

They screw everyone. I got myself together, I'm waiting for the agenda. I have a complete order with brains, but you still don’t understand this

[DenVB]

Quote: FoBoss_V

The criteria said up to 35, a certain weight and the priority of having combat experience.

Nothing of the kind was said. That is, it was said, but this is just a chatter of individuals who are not responsible for anything. Neither the decree on mobilization nor the law on military duty has such restrictions.

[FoBoss_V]

Shoigu's words are chatter ??)) although yes .. You are probably right))

[DenVB]

Quote: FoBoss_V

Shoigu's words are chatter?

The published order of the Minister of Defense on the order of mobilization would not be idle talk. And the words - yes, chatter. And what's so amazing about that? Chatter in a box is one of the duties of our ministers.

[DenVB]

Quote: FoBoss_V

Are they not ashamed of themselves?

They are ashamed. Therefore, they intend to compensate for their shame with increased service zeal.

[edmed]

In the morning I talked with my sister, saw off my grandson, in general, "trash, waste and sodomy", these stupid people could not calculate the capacity of the cars for the number of contingents, they sent them home until Wednesday.

[Ronrew]

Klim Zhukov says everything correctly, the authorities made too many mistakes and people have a question - why is such a state needed if it spends almost all of its resources on officials and security officials (protecting officials), and ordinary people are left to their own devices and are faced with "reformed" medicine (I myself was sick with covid - I saw the "quality" of our medicine), education, the pension system, etc. And for many mobilized, an extremely provocative, but quite reasonable question arises - if athletes could go to competitions under a neutral flag (you see, athletes have a short sports "life" and they need to have time to make a career), then maybe they can go to soldiers and officers under a "neutral" white flag, they end up risking their lives and limbs. The current government faces a big problem - how to achieve consolidation in society and the people's trust in themselves, without solving which victory is impossible.

[gansales]

This is for you to make you whine here, from powerless anger ..
I and many in Russia will go to the end so that there are no such whiners as in the 80-90s
We all remember!!

[lopvlad]

At the same time, as the expert put it, that same Motherland has been responding to its citizens in the same way for 30 years. You can’t make ends meet - these are your problems, a loved one needs an operation - similarly, a doctor or teacher has a small salary - go into business.

she still answers them to these very citizens in this way. After all, instead of freezing mortgage payments, the state, by one decision, could gather a huge army of volunteers in a few days simply by writing off the mortgages of all volunteers under the slogan "Went to the SVO - get housing for free."
Otherwise, sovereignty hangs by a thread, while officials and speculators think about profit.
For me, the worst thing is to recruit an army from the "600"s, well, those who have the desire and are eager to fight, but the skills for the successful conduct of hostilities either never existed (playing tanks does not make you a warrior) or they have long been forgotten and lost and the physical form is at zero. And as a result, we get an army of cannon fodder that is unable to win anything, but how to shake the state from the inside.

Now is the time of wars between professional armies, and in Russia a professional army has not been created. By the way, a millionth army in which more than 500 thousand (conscripts) cannot be involved in hostilities is essentially a 500 thousandth army.
And if someone asks you why we are now retreating in Krasny Liman in Ukraine, feel free to say that this is because our entire army is only 500 thousand.

[Sergej1972]

Approximately 260 thousand conscripts or even less in the Armed Forces. Plus there are conscripts in other law enforcement agencies. In this call, 120 thousand are called up for military service.

[Pavel57]

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

Actually, it was not Ukraine that attacked Russia, but exactly the opposite. This has a huge media role. This is what all "Ukrainians" and their TV say. This is what ours say. And the fact that it was necessary to help the Donbass and the red lines is already the second, the last with which not everyone agrees, although the overwhelming majority of Russians are probably on the side of the Donbass. The mediocre beginning of the SVO, in which the political leadership is to blame, also played its role. Recognition of the independence of the DPR-LPR is the right way. And "hit first" is a strategic mistake, it was necessary to wait for the Bandera strike, since they were sure that they would attack, and keep the troops at the ready, while strengthening ahead of time the troops of the DPR LPR, which were, especially mobilized, weak.

Would you attack first or wait if the threat of a Dirty Bomb was looming?

[Alexey Lantukh]

Well, in general, the leadership of Ukraine started talking about a dirty bomb after the start of the NWO. And while she's gone. And if Ukraine had attacked first, we would not have been aggressors in the eyes of third countries, and this also matters.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

we would not be aggressors in the eyes of third countries

and now it would not be Donbass that would lie in ruins from shelling, but at least the Rostov and Belgorod regions. As for those very eyes, for the West we have always been and will be aggressors.
Do you naively believe that if Ukraine had attacked Russia first in March 2022, then the West would have imposed sanctions against Ukraine, called it an aggressor in its media and started supplying weapons to Russia for the war with Ukraine?

[Anatoly Proskurin]

Yes, damn it, 100% Zhukov! How unfortunate ... Right!

[Michael]

Zhukov, a moderate Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist, was not noticed in Trotskyism and calls for a world revolution. Monopoly capitalism disgusts him, like most sapiens. But, he found an ecological niche in it, like all the sapiens living in it.

[Altmann]

I wouldn't see anything wrong with that. The leaders of the mobilization centers are replaced by their junior representatives. It is impossible to supply an army with supermaterial, it really is often a luxury and not a single army has money for it (our army still solves the problem of its purchase on its own). It is interesting how Zhukov would have coped with this and how political workers would have dealt with this in 1941. I think the main thing is to draw lessons from mobilization. This has never been done by any army in Europe. It wasn't perfect, but it's good!!

[Maks1995]

Zhukov is right.

By discussion:
Any infa about the imminent attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the LDNR did not seem to find a clear confirmation.
On the contrary, the Armed Forces of Ukraine buried there in the ground indirectly testify to the opposite.
Father's words are also about the opposite ..
And all sorts of stories - that he collected earth from Chernobyl for a dirty bomb, or there were radionuclides hidden in Mriya - more like a flight of black PR fantasy

The broken promises of the beginning of the NWO were reduced simply to the annexation of part of the territories, and, moreover, not yet recaptured to the end. (jokingly real, they could have announced the borders of the LDNR, including Kyiv and Kharkov)

So everything is incomprehensible from the point of view of "liberation", but it is natural from the point of view of "imperialism and annexation of lands"

[Pavel57]

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

Well, in general, the leadership of Ukraine started talking about a dirty bomb after the start of the NWO. And while she's gone. And if Ukraine had attacked first, we would not have been aggressors in the eyes of third countries, and this also matters.

Zelensky spoke about nuclear weapons in his speech in Europe until February 24.
It was possible to get a new one on June 22, but with a nuclear bomb in Donetsk.

[Knell wardenheart]

According to the historian, Russian authorities accuse "non-patriots" who are trying to avoid mobilization of taking the position of "my hut is on the edge" and "these are not my problems" when the Motherland was in danger.

At the same time, as the expert put it, that same Motherland has been responding to its citizens in the same way for 30 years. You can’t make ends meet - these are your problems, a loved one needs an operation - similarly, a doctor or teacher has a small salary - go into business

What goes around comes around. The time has come to reap the harvest from the fields of ideological and managerial work.

[Wildcat]

Okay, Klim Sanych - like a real communist - tells a little about the wrong thing.

Let's listen to Razvedos (who is "somewhat more" than Klim Sanych, a military man), who understands "somewhat more" in the question:




Here is such a compote.

[chingachguc]

And what does Klim offer? To arrange a revolution during the war? It has happened in history too. And everyone knows how it ended

[Steppe]

Reflection on partial mobilization!
Is there such a name in the law. It is always partial. I am all for helping our people (to free them from Bandera oppression) who have been suffering for 8 years and now live at the risk of their lives. But Russia did not become a country of warriors. Before the war of 41-45, families had many children - the earth fed and there was no TV (corrupting). Industrialization moved many to "Khrushchev". Large families are no longer fashionable. Often grandparents (TWO COUPLES) have only one grandson! The article was about China - for a while there was a one-child policy. Imagine: two grandmothers and two grandfathers caress him, of course. What kind of warrior grows out of him? How to see him off to war? It may turn out to be the END OF THE KIND! TWO COUPLES! Tragedy for many. There is no need to live (survive)! Stalemate situation. We have nothing in the law about the only son. And, for example, in Syria, there is something in the law on the youngest son (they don’t take them to war).
The way out of this: it would be necessary to start the 1st wave of mobilization from the age of 30 and the only sons (most at least) by this time would have time to “weed out” - there would be a continuation of the family. The state would raise these children and demographics would suffer less.

[Prosha]

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

The topic of our losses and the losses of the enemy in the last war is still debatable. And people argue often those who do not have any historical knowledge. For example, do you know that during the war in our rear, millions of people died of starvation and disease (Leningrad does not count). So, not all people died from the atrocities of the Nazis. There are many reasons for this.

It seems to me that you are a nice person from Ukraine! Only there are such historical pearls in honor! And about the victory in the Great Patriotic War and about the millions who died in the rear of the Red Army!

[Steppe]

in Chelyabinsk there is a cemetery for those who died of starvation during the war (including those evacuated). Those who worked received rations, and the old people .. My grandmother said, "Gena and Tolya (my brothers were 7-10 years old then) will eat bread and immediately on the stove so that hunger does not quickly approach." (This is a city of up to 50000 inhabitants in the Chelyab. region). Working at the bakery at the exit of each, their relatives met. Bobrov’s mother (hockey coach) died of starvation in the evacuation (I don’t remember exactly where, it seems in Gorky)

[Altmann]

I survived one mobilization, only one, and that was in Czechoslovakia. The problems are exactly the same, but at that time (1975) there was nowhere to run. We thought that we figured everything out, but suddenly we didn’t have much, and there was a lot of superfluous left. But we managed in three days and in the end there was gratitude, but we were a special purpose communications regiment.
Then I was at a demonstration of the development of field slaughterhouses and it was really beautiful, what kind of equipment was in the army and butchers and veterinarians worked harmoniously. It's just that mobilization is a big problem in every country. Those who defected, fled, they will not help you and you will definitely punish them, for example, they are bored to go to the civil service, they avoided mobilization and so on, NO.

[iGhost]

For me personally, Klim Sanych is not some respected blogger/citizen. I don't know what people see in him.