German media: West must persuade Zelensky to enter into peace talks with Moscow

The West must convince Zelensky to enter into peace talks with Moscow. He needs to understand that the conclusion of peace will be beneficial to everyone.

This opinion was expressed by Oliver Stock in his article for the German magazine Focus.

Otherwise, the German media notes, the Ukrainian conflict is capable of reaching a completely new, highly undesirable level. The author even admits the option that it could escalate into the Third World War. To prevent such a development of events, a transition to peace negotiations is necessary.

At the same time, it is not at all necessary that the West be the mediator in the negotiation process between Kyiv and Moscow. This could be done by someone who maintains normal relations with both sides of the conflict, for example, Turkish President Erdogan.

But none of this is possible until Zelenskiy is committed to negotiations. Shtok believes that, oddly enough, Western weapons supplies. At the same time, the German journalist has a very peculiar vision of the Western “peacekeeping mission”. He says that Zelensky should only be supplied with weapons when he "accompanies every shot with a peace proposal." The author believes that Western military assistance should continue until Ukraine is restored to the borders that it controlled before February 24, and only then begin negotiations on Crimea and other issues.

In other words, his "peace initiative" is to continue supplying weapons to Ukraine until it regains control over all lost territories, except, for now, Crimea.

Comments

[Nevsky_ZU]

What are the negotiations with the Nazis? I can't imagine Putin with him after 24.02.

[AlexTires]

Oh, you think Putin cares what we can't imagine?

[Tatyana]

German media: West must persuade Zelensky to enter into peace talks with Moscow

It still doesn’t reach the dumb German media that neither Zelensky, nor Reznikov, nor Zaluzhny, etc. nothing themselves in Kyiv do not decide! Namely. That the Kyiv authorities in Ukraine are just an administrative-colonial laying of the militarists of Washington!

[Silver99]

This is not even the point, the Armed Forces of Ukraine felt that they would sit on a horse, at the negotiating table only in the event of an impending defeat, but the support in our media for the idea of ​​negotiations speaks of the failure of the SVO and signed the top of the generals as unsuitable for professional use ((((We are celebrating the referendum today we surrender cities with Russian-speaking residents and the enemy fires on the territory of Russia (((I don’t remember from history that in 1941 this happened during a temporary retreat ((((and the situation is very similar, although they assured that this year would not happen again ((((

[1976AG]

"and here is the support in our media for the idea of ​​negotiations"

Does our media support the idea of ​​negotiations?

[41 REGION]

Quote from Silver99

they will sit at the negotiating table only in the event of an impending defeat

To give NATO time to assemble another army and in six months again Alga ..

[lis-ik]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

What are the negotiations with the Nazis? I can't imagine Putin with him after 24.02.

Let's start with the fact that it was the Russian side that initiated all the negotiations and gestures of goodwill, a small victorious one to maintain confidence in the government did not happen and it was not the army that was to blame, but its commander in chief, who did not have the determination. It is quite possible that the seized private assets of the President's friends played no small role, or maybe they found his non-existent stash. Otherwise, everything that happens is difficult to explain.

[Silver99]

Perhaps so, but how do you like the release of the godfather in exchange for the Nazis "Azov" and mercenaries already sentenced to death? How can the President of Russia pardon them if Donbass is not yet part of Russia?

[lis-ik]

Quote from Silver99

Perhaps so, but how do you like the release of the godfather in exchange for the Nazis of Azov and mercenaries already sentenced to death? What right does the President of Russia have the right to pardon them if Donbass is not yet part of Russia?

So I can’t find an explanation, most likely they hit the patient himself, in his personal pocket, the godfather went in addition.

[Carat]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

What are the negotiations with the Nazis? I can't imagine Putin with him after 24.02.

Could you imagine the negotiations between Putin and Erdogan after the downing of our bomber by Turkish fighters?

Politics as prostitution has no morals.

[FoBoss_V]

And I imagine it perfectly. Just after 24.02. Observing the first stage of the military, the Kiev-Sumy gestures of goodwill, the secret removal of NATO officers and instructors from Moriupol, the clearly treacherous nature of conducting military action without causing REAL damage to the enemy, peeping through the fingers of the supply of weapons and mercenaries, the Medina negotiator, for grain kickbacks and gas through Ukraine, I see that none of the highest ranks of the RF Ministry of Defense, including Shoigu, responded with epaulettes and length of service for all the failures that have been, continue and will be, for the top managers of the military-industrial complex who in full missed the preparations for war, and Deneska Manturov there with his import substitution. Blatant lies and eternal lies from the gherkin to the commander-in-chief, including the announced figure of 5900 dead. What is this in general? Do they just take people for idiots?

[Man from afar]

Oh yes, the world-famous Focus magazine, which only Herr Stock's mother and his father read, when the air freshener label in the toilet is already read to the holes. Another meaningless statement.

[Reptiloid]

Dry residue from the article:

The author believes that Western military assistance should continue until Ukraine is restored to the borders that it controlled before February 24, and only then begin negotiations on Crimea and other issues.

[Quote Lavrov]

Enough of some solitary opinion of a journalist to pass off as the majority position of the West. The West, the United States will definitely fight "to the last Ukrainian." Yes, and objectively - well, why is Zelensky now negotiating?
His power rests only on this war. If there were no CBO, the rating would have fallen to 0 for a long time.
And the United States is so simply blissed out by the fact that the Slavs are killing each other, that they are fighting with Russia with proxy, that the Russian economy was squeezed out of Europe, and they themselves entered it.
So what are the negotiations?

[Lex_is]

Hmm ...
Did the Germans begin to suspect something?
Surprisingly, it's too late.
After a certain moment, events can no longer be stopped, they develop according to their own logic, dragging into their funnel the idiots who launched them.

[rotmistr60]

The West must convince Zelensky to enter into peace talks with Moscow

The West cannot do this from the word at all, tk. he himself set up Zelensky for "victory on the battlefield" (from presidents, EU officials to an ordinary journalist), supplied and supplies weapons, finances, allows him to speak in violation of protocol even at the UN ... Oliver Stock is a great optimist.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: rotmistr60

The West must convince Zelensky to enter into peace talks with Moscow

The West cannot do this from the word at all, tk. he himself set up Zelensky for "victory on the battlefield" (from presidents, EU officials to an ordinary journalist), supplied and supplies weapons, finances, allows him to speak in violation of protocol even at the UN ... Oliver Stock is a great optimist.

What can negotiations be about? Maximum ceasefire, as between Syria and Israel in 1974. But so far, the losses of both sides have not yet brought the leadership of the parties to the conflict to this

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

What can negotiations be about? Maximum ceasefire, as between Syria and Israel in 1974.

Syria is at war with Israel, but there are no fascists and Nazis, unlike Ukraine. So negotiations cannot be between Russia and Ukraine.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: tihonmarine

Syria is at war with Israel, but there are no fascists and Nazis, unlike Ukraine. So negotiations cannot be between Russia and Ukraine.

This is all demagogy, not related to real politics.

[Silver99]

Negotiations begin at a stalemate, when neither side can do something at the front. In your case, Israel retained the Golan, which is what it wanted, and this is a victory, and not a drain on hostilities like ours. You got what you fought for.

[xeotyrj81]

UWB will not allow peace. This is the biggest source of instability

[AIK05]

I look at the photo and remember the film “Prisoner of the Caucasus”, the clown in the role of a coward, but the experienced and the dunce are understandable, they stand on the road holding hands, the coward wants to escape, but these two do not allow

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

The West must convince Zelensky

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[Uprun]

Negotiations with whom and about what? Our conditions for the striped and the Britons are not categorically satisfied, their Wishlist is simply absurd .... Surrender today, a drug addict is not something that would not be ready to sign, it's just not discussed - he's on a horse today ..., we sign .... Nemchura, wants to recoup for 45 years ... It will be hard, with defeats and losses ...., but it will be .....

[tihonmarine]

It is disgusting and disgusting when murderers of our country are being prepared not far from the Kremlin...

An interesting photo for the article is "two Jews and one Negro."

[certero]

Ukraine and their society are sure of victory And in Russia it is not clear what is happening with propaganda. Therefore, negotiations can only begin on our initiative, which means making concessions.
the conclusion is simple, there will be no negotiations until one of the parties achieves a major military success.

[Uprun]

By military success you need to understand -Victory, I hope?

[Knell wardenheart]

As long as there are supplies of weapons, the complete defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is indefinitely far away. Without a complete defeat (or just a large-scale local demoralizing defeat), the Armed Forces of Ukraine - the Kyiv authorities will not agree to a "peace treaty" because in fact it will already be formulated as surrender (after referendums in partially occupied regions), and this will be direct damage to them, most likely lethal.
"Conciliation" now would mean that either Kyiv would voluntarily and with music give us a solid Kusman of the Zaporozhye and Donetsk regions (this is damn unacceptable for them), or that we would have to give up the significant "de facto" territories of the Kharkov region occupied by us and leave the border in partially occupied "de jure" referendum regions "in fact" and not along the borders of the region (apparently, this is unacceptable for us). In fact, the conflict would not be resolved in this form, but would simply be frozen. Also, without the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Ukraine will not accept the key (for our security) condition of actual non-bloc neutrality, or on the terms of a certain compromise, this condition will be accepted with an array of reservations and loopholes, allowing in a short time to pump up the Armed Forces of Ukraine with Western weapons and train the military to use it. e (even massively in third countries).

Nothing would prevent Ukraine from denouncing any agreements, because in this case we would again have to play not "on defense" or actually chew.
At the moment, the situation for reconciliation does not seem to me to have developed.

[Alexandr2637]

What nafig negotiations with a Nazi impostor? Let him negotiate with Pugacheva, well, or with Makarevich. Just his level is a buffoon with a buffoon somewhere by the toilet ....

[certero]

Quote from uprun

By military success you need to understand -Victory, I hope?

I wonder what you mean by the word victory?

[iouris]

What the hell is the "West" if the US and Britain turn off the gas to their allies almost forever, and they don't even mumble?

[Eug]

But it’s interesting - if Kyiv categorically refuses to give up Krasny Lyman during the negotiations? What will the results of the referendum look like then?

[anthrax.it]

Well, now Zele does not make sense to negotiate at all. His APUs are doing a good job. And ours do not receive reinforcements, while Konashenkov tells us the nonsense that they wrote to him, and the military correspondents in the telegram lie about that every day ours put a million Armed Forces, a couple of thousand tanks, hundreds of aircraft, etc. Ramzan Akhmatovich, the General Staff needs you now more than ever!
PS: In our army (I mean those who are on the front line) - I have no doubt!