“The enemy has a lot of infantry and armor”: a summary of the course of the special operation of the RF Armed Forces in Krasny Liman and other sectors of the front

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“The enemy has a lot of infantry and armor”: a summary of the course of the special operation of the RF Armed Forces in Krasny Liman and other sectors of the front

A difficult situation developed in Drobyshevo, which became the last outpost on the way of enemy forces to Krasny Liman from the west. The fighters hold the defense, despite the enemy's multiple superiority in personnel, the enemy's active use of artillery and aviation, in particular drones.

Enemy forces do not stop trying to break through, constantly receiving reinforcements to replace those knocked out of action - infantry, mercenaries (mainly Polish "soldiers of fortune", Romanian ones also appeared), armored vehicles. Despite the losses, the enemy grouping attacking Drobyshevo is gradually increasing in size.



Not enough people. The enemy has a lot of infantry and a lot of armor. I cannot say that the situation on the Liman Front is satisfactory. The enemy has significant reserves and, while there is still "greenery", he will be torn from his last strength

- said Alexander Borodai, who arrived at the forefront.

Enemy forces intend to attack Torskoe in the near future. Through it, the Liman Front is supplied from the territory of the LPR. Russian troops have thoroughly prepared defensive positions and are ready to adequately meet the enemy.

We will stand and even if no one thinks that we will retreat

- said the Russian fighter, reflecting the attacks in Drobyshevo.



In the north of Donbass, Russian troops advancing on a wide front are putting pressure on the enemy, who has taken up defensive positions on the outskirts of Artyomovsk. Suffering heavy losses, the enemy forces are gradually retreating to the western part of the city. The enemy was trying to slow down the advance of the Russian troops, in the rear of which maneuverable DRGs were sent on American MaxxPro armored vehicles. However, they were discovered and destroyed.

In the city itself, in the course of constant raids by special groups, enemy firing points located in high-rise buildings are identified and eliminated from anti-tank systems. The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was going to launch a counterattack from the northwestern part of Artyomovsk, but after the Ka-52 attack helicopters attacked enemy forces, they abandoned this plan.

Russian forces are conducting an offensive in the Donetsk region - battle formations are attacking the enemy near Mayorsk, simultaneously knocking out warehouses, headquarters and strongholds of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from tanks, artillery and guided missiles.

In the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction, the enemy is preparing for an offensive in a number of sectors. In particular, forces are gathering to attack the village of Blagodatnoye. Russian troops are trying to track the movements of the enemy and inflict preemptive strikes on his columns.

The fighters recruited in the course of partial mobilization, after coordination, will become part of the units [apparently of a new formation], which will be used to defend the liberated territories and act as a reserve and reinforcement.

The heads of the republics and liberated regions who arrived in Moscow must sign agreements tomorrow on the entry of new territories into the Russian Federation. Within a few days after this, it is planned to cancel the border cordon with new subjects and move the border (which will greatly simplify the delivery of humanitarian aid and equipment by volunteers). However, most likely, administrative control of a different format will be introduced due to the need to prevent illegal import weapons from the war-torn territories.
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  1. +14
    29 September 2022 20: 51
    Yeah ... the lack of personnel in our troops is affecting!
    1. +17
      29 September 2022 20: 54
      Quote: Sergio_7
      Yeah ... the lack of personnel in our troops is affecting!
      Oh, and it’s hard for our people there ...
      Good luck guys!
      1. 0
        29 September 2022 21: 02
        Quote: Victor_B
        Quote: Sergio_7
        Yeah ... the lack of personnel in our troops is affecting!
        Oh, and it’s hard for our people there ...
        Good luck guys!

        By the way, Victor, the day before yesterday your Canadian government handed over 50 Bizon armored personnel carriers to Ukraine.
        1. +13
          29 September 2022 21: 08
          Aaron, your government sent drone specialists to the Khinzirs, is that okay?
          1. -11
            29 September 2022 21: 38
            Quote: impostor
            Aaron, your government sent drone specialists to the Khinzirs, is that okay?

            Well, such a chance to try developments on Iranian drones. Who will refuse.
            1. +5
              29 September 2022 21: 40
              And who will refuse to break through the chariot? Go ... transport and recovery vehicle for those soils, do not forget ...
              1. -2
                29 September 2022 22: 10
                Quote: impostor
                And who will refuse to break through the chariot? Go ... transport and recovery vehicle for those soils, do not forget ...

                So Carrot is an ordinary tank. What is so difficult to knock him out with a modern anti-tank gun.
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              3. +7
                29 September 2022 23: 24
                It's good to roll on my interlocutor. By the way, I am also a Jewish muzzle. with Guards badge. Will you run into me too?
                1. +2
                  30 September 2022 00: 07
                  And why so much puff for Jewish origin? After Zivi Magen, in an interview on Eton-TV and in his book, exposed all Soviet Jews of betraying the USSR, there is nothing to be proud of.
                  1. +10
                    30 September 2022 00: 14
                    Quote: znavel
                    And why so much puff for Jewish origin?

                    So I don’t hide it for nothing, my whole career in VO. Jewish mother, Russian father. I'm proud of them. Kingdom of heaven to them
                    1. 0
                      7 October 2022 00: 18
                      Those. proud of the traitors? Maladets
                2. +1
                  30 September 2022 14: 12
                  Quote: Tusv

                  +6
                  It's good to roll on my interlocutor. By the way, I am also a Jewish muzzle. with Guards badge. Will you run into me too?

                  If you, like him, rejoice in the supply of weapons from Israel to Ukraine, then I will run into you. And the question of nationality has never bothered me, although I can troll if my opponent asks.
            3. +9
              29 September 2022 22: 21
              Well, such a chance to try developments on Iranian drones. Who will refuse.


              In this case, they could refuse. In fact, you help Bandera fans.

              Or does it mean nothing to you?
        2. +18
          29 September 2022 21: 27
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          By the way, Victor, the day before yesterday your Canadian government handed over 50 Bizon armored personnel carriers to Ukraine.
          And what do I have to do with it?
          So in that government there is not a single Russian, but it is full of Jews!
          Why did you - the Jews sent armored personnel carriers to Saloreich?
          1. -8
            29 September 2022 21: 36
            Quote: Victor_B
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            By the way, Victor, the day before yesterday your Canadian government handed over 50 Bizon armored personnel carriers to Ukraine.
            And what do I have to do with it?
            So in that government there is not a single Russian, but it is full of Jews!
            Why did you - the Jews sent armored personnel carriers to Saloreich?

            And you pay taxes on it and pay.
            1. +4
              29 September 2022 21: 41
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              And you pay taxes on it and pay.
              I'm not crying.
              I'm being paid.
              1. +13
                29 September 2022 21: 59
                I'm not crying.
                I'm being paid.
                Let's strike parasitism on benefits for the Canadian economy laughing good .
                1. +9
                  29 September 2022 22: 03
                  Quote: Bolt Cutter
                  I'm not crying.
                  I'm being paid.
                  Let's strike parasitism on benefits for the Canadian economy laughing good .

                  Offend!
                  According to the pension system!
        3. +2
          29 September 2022 22: 19
          Aaron, in Israel, Soviet repatriates are used as cannon fodder?

          Olims, Jewish settlers from Russia - second-class people
          1. +2
            29 September 2022 23: 15
            Quote: Santa Fe
            Olims, Jewish settlers from Russia - second-class people

            Why do you think so?
            1. +1
              30 September 2022 06: 39
              Why do you think so?

              https://tsimmes.ru/stereotipy-ob-izrailskoj-armii/

              However, interviews with 153 military personnel from this social group showed that, as a rule, they also get low-status positions in the army. Most of the men served as cooks or drivers, and only a few ended up in combat units. None of them were promoted to officer positions.

              Timur, a repatriate from Moscow, was drafted into the Israeli army as a volunteer, and described his experience in a blog. “The difference in attitudes towards repatriates from Russia and, say, the United States or France is huge”, He says.

              Recalling his experience, Timur notes that repatriates from Western countries enjoy great privileges in the army. “To advance - if, of course, they are interested - the French and Americans are given more opportunities. It's easier for them to get into officer positions, it's easier to get security passes. Petty offenses, for which "Russians" were punished by a delay in leaving on Shabbat or a disciplinary court, repatriates from Europe and the USA could get away with it. We must also not forget that the main flow of donations for the needs of the IDF comes from Western countries - therefore, whoever pays, he dances.


              Basically, it was expected. People from the post-Soviet space are starving in search of a well-fed life. And the attitude towards them is appropriate
              1. 0
                30 September 2022 14: 01
                Quote: Santa Fe
                Most of the men served as cooks or drivers, and only a few ended up in combat units. None of them were promoted to officer positions.

                So this suggests that the Jews from the USSR, the real Jews, why go to the front line when you can be a cook or a driver. Or you can talk about immigrants from the United States who have held or are holding leadership positions in Israel.
    2. 0
      29 September 2022 20: 58
      You won’t be able to quickly drop trained fighters. They still need to be prepared. Military correspondents also talk about the lack of art on our part
      1. +1
        29 September 2022 21: 04
        Military correspondents also talk about the lack of art on our part

        But now the guys are so lacking in the spark ... the melancholy would be ...
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    4. -1
      29 September 2022 21: 04
      Quote: Sergio_7
      Yeah ... the lack of personnel in our troops is affecting!

      Right on Gaidar:

      What does the Supreme Commander say?
    5. -1
      30 September 2022 04: 40
      And where did our millionth army go? The number of personnel, according to official figures, until February 24, there were one million soldiers and officers, where are they all? Or these numbers were inflated like everything else.
  2. -8
    29 September 2022 20: 54
    If I'm not mistaken, then this tactic is called Zerg Rush, that's just how much more you can recruit new zergs.
    1. +2
      29 September 2022 20: 56
      Ours in the General Staff officially estimate the enemy’s mobile reserve at 5 million. Without taking into account mercenaries
  3. +14
    29 September 2022 20: 54
    Very disturbing! Many managed to prepare and arm the dill. What the MO was counting on is unclear
    1. 0
      29 September 2022 20: 59
      Quote: Foundling
      Very disturbing! Many managed to prepare and arm the dill. What the MO was counting on is unclear

      and does not hit the rear and does not disable the infrastructure! maybe I'm wrong and still displays!
    2. +4
      29 September 2022 21: 22
      Quote: Foundling
      What the MO was counting on is unclear

      The same thing that Saddam Hussein was counting on when he invaded Kuwait.
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  4. -14
    29 September 2022 20: 55
    Well, yes, Russia doesn’t have a million-strong army, the President sits in his office and watches how the guys are killed, but “we don’t send conscripts,” and contract soldiers are shit, they don’t care about them.
    1. +16
      29 September 2022 21: 27
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      and contractors are shit, they don't care

      As sad as it is, you are right. Peacetime contractors, most often those who are free, counted on "cutting down the money." This is where the exposure of the front by the "XNUMXth" occurred. Now they are going to fight.
    2. -1
      30 September 2022 07: 59
      And why would I remember this on your comment:
      Who is slanderous, lives only by slander, Who is kinder, sharp, just to be more noticeable ....
  5. -19
    29 September 2022 20: 59
    Not enough people. The enemy has a lot of infantry and a lot of armor. I cannot say that the situation on the Liman Front is satisfactory. The enemy has significant reserves and, while there is still "greenery", he will be torn from his last strength

    - said Alexander Borodai, who arrived at the forefront.
    Borodai decided to meet at the forefront the entry of the Donbass region into the Russian Federation, by personal example on a burning enemy tank with a grenade pin in his teeth. good drinks
  6. +9
    29 September 2022 20: 59
    This again came as a surprise to our command? The same Polish mercenaries were stationed somewhere on the territory of Ukraine before arriving at the front. Isn't it time to strike again at their places of concentration?
  7. +27
    29 September 2022 21: 03
    With whom to strengthen 488, which our beloved MO has already been hammered from three sides for 9 days, can’t find it in any way? Really?
    What is this and what is it called?
    1. +7
      29 September 2022 22: 45
      No way, while SVO. (By the way, they also don’t have a war ...)

      Whoever is the first to honestly and calmly say WAR and move from the tactics of "legitimate armed formations" at the battalion level to the strategy of FRONTS and ARMIES - he will win.

      That is, if the goal is to WIN ... If the goal is the "100-year war", then everything is going "correctly".
      1. +1
        29 September 2022 22: 50
        The problem is not BTG.
        Tactical formations larger than BTGs are redundant there, and will lead to nothing but an increase in losses during enemy strikes against warehouses and twisted equipment.
        Problems in the number of tactical groups and their use.
        1. +6
          29 September 2022 23: 58
          Tactical UNCAPABLE (!) to realize strategic goals. In fact, you yourself answered your own statement. We need a transition from the "quantity of BTG" to a quality that allows us to implement the strategy. And these are armies and fronts ...
          1. 0
            30 September 2022 08: 25
            Certainly unable. And it shouldn't.
            You confuse soft with warm.

            Armies and fronts are operational-strategic formations.

            A front is made up of armies - armies are made up of divisions - divisions are made up of regiments and brigades.
            And to perform a specific task, the brigade commander will allocate one battalion, strengthen it and receive the same BTG that will perform the task.
            1. +1
              30 September 2022 18: 08
              I'll tell you straight. I do not see any MILITARY strategy on both sides in what is happening. There is a complete feeling that politicians are simply giving orders to the military in the style of "Napoleon-Bonappartes" of the 19th century.

              And there is no need for the fact that "the General Staff does not share with us." It is no more difficult to "unwind" a semi-annual non-war into the ideas of the General Staffs than to make drawings using the available technology. There were no ideas there. They came and said: "Tomorrow is the war. Perform!"
  8. +4
    29 September 2022 21: 07
    And where is the 3rd volunteer corps now?
    1. +22
      29 September 2022 21: 14
      In the same place where he was, in beautiful presentations and sweet stories.
  9. +2
    29 September 2022 21: 15
    Hang in there guys, it will get better soon.
  10. +13
    29 September 2022 21: 18
    Quote: Sergio_7
    Yeah ... the lack of personnel in our troops is affecting!

    There are not enough children of ministers and governors in the front ranks. Then immediately the personnel will be protected. They will use long-range weapons to the maximum and destroy bridges and railways with ammunition and equipment for the enemy.
  11. +28
    29 September 2022 21: 18
    despite the multiple superiority of the enemy in personnel
    And all these months they talked about the grinding of enemy troops.
    1. +13
      29 September 2022 22: 10
      Quote: Gardamir
      And all these months they talked about the grinding of enemy troops

      During February-March, the “brothers will support” strategy suffered a complete collapse.
      In June-September, the “grinding” strategy suffered a complete collapse.
      There are already great doubts about the ability of the political leadership to find a winning strategy.

      Now the 1st part of the third strategy of "small forces" is looming, since a partial mobilization of 300 tons is - by small forces. In the near future it will become clear what these small forces are going to do. This will be the 2nd part of the third strategy.
      But such a strategy will not work to win.
      I'll be glad if I'm wrong.
      1. +6
        29 September 2022 23: 19
        We are more than 300 thousand. Now we can’t digest it. And then the training centers are suffocating
  12. +17
    29 September 2022 21: 24
    So it was necessary to transfer the contract soldiers who remained in the districts, of whom at least 50 thousand remain, according to Shoigu, and maybe more. And the replenishment will arrive in their place and, as soon as it is ready, will decrease by the number of 250 thousand, and the rest with conscripts will guard the borders of other directions!
    And so no one will hold Liman for a month and a half, the enemy will not wait a month and a half! Too late, the MoD began mobilization ...
    It is necessary to abandon ready-made reserves, because reserves decide everything, as Napoleon I used to say, and if there are none, then it’s time to transfer powers to Shoigu, Kutuzov from him so and so ...
    One thing is good, thanks to the fools who blew up the gas pipeline, NATO countries will soon have no electricity and it will be difficult to produce weapons.
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    2. +12
      29 September 2022 23: 24
      Quote: Alexey G
      and the rest with conscripts will guard the borders of other directions!

      Will the conscripts who have already served for a year go home?
      Or will they stay in warm barracks?
      Did they take an oath?
      Did you serve a year?
      And for a year of training / service, a fighter is already considered a fully prepared warrior. And they don't need any retraining, skills restoration. This first year cannot be allowed to go to war - he is still yellow-mouthed. And the "scoop" is quite a warrior.
      In any case, the reserve, the rear guard and the second line, are quite suitable. In our Donbass, even 18-year-olds are fighting.
      Quote: Alexey G
      It's time to transfer authority to Shoigu, Kutuzov from him is so ...

      The General Staff is engaged in the management and planning of the database, but from it the controller of the military-industrial complex, and the rear, and the supply officer are so-so. But the man is a holiday. Biathlons, parades, fireworks ... exercises with pomp and no use ...
      Quote: Alexey G
      One thing is good, thanks to the fools who blew up the gas pipeline, NATO countries will soon have no electricity

      It will not be in Germany - Russian gas. Although ... "Reliable Supplier" through the Ukrainian GTS is always ready to provide partners with cheap Russian gas.
      And oil. Yes For it is necessary to refuel the tanks of the Nazis in Ukraine.
      Or ... stop May be enough ?
      Maybe someone in the towers will "leap zealously"?
      ... No. No . Eurobonds will be paid regularly . Yes
      And energy resources go to enemies, and the proceeds from this go under arrest.
      therefore, the Nazis will have enough tanks, and guns with shells, and they will give air defense, and they will help mercenaries, and they will provide all means of reconnaissance and target designation. Meanwhile, in our country, Nabiulina will be awarded another order and a new "budget rule" will be introduced. New taxes - so that life does not seem like honey.
      And NWO (or maybe soon - WHO) will go ... according to plan.
      It seems that our economy is a market economy ... And the NWO is planned.
      1. +6
        29 September 2022 23: 57
        Will the conscripts who have already served for a year go home?

        I think that there will be at least 3 waves of mobilization, so they are unlikely to go far ... although I would like to finish everything long ago and with our complete victory!
        And energy resources go to enemies, and the proceeds from this go under arrest.

        Stalin cleaned the contra before the war, maybe too much of course, but there is something to think about now.
        But I don’t understand why we are advancing on Artemovsk, instead of giving reserves to Liman?
        If you lose Liman, then Artemovsk will have to be abandoned, because the enemy will bypass it from the north ...
        What do fathers commanders think? We spend the last forces on blows in the forehead on a strong defense, instead of covering a more reliable dangerous direction.
        1. -2
          30 September 2022 00: 45
          Quote: Alexey G
          I think that there will be at least 3 waves of mobilization

          We all hope so.
          Quote: Alexey G
          Stalin cleaned the contra before the war, maybe too much of course, but there is something to think about now.

          At the towers now Stalin is not in honor.
          Quote: Alexey G
          But I don’t understand why we are advancing on Artemovsk, instead of giving reserves to Liman?

          The battles for Artyomovsk began before the Ukrainian offensive, and if you stop it now, you will have to roll back - all the previous work is in vain. Well, the depth of the military thought of Shoigi's generals ... knows no limits.
      2. ada
        +1
        30 September 2022 01: 44
        Quote: bayard
        Will the conscripts who have already served for a year go home?
        Or will they stay in warm barracks? ...

        Fuuhh! This is a tricky, ambiguous question.
        If martial law, wartime and a state of war (you can announce a later and general mobilization, it won’t hurt - it’s not great), then the Armed Forces are brought to the highest degrees of BG and the conscripts sit still (conditionally) until the SVCH is overstaffed, this is called delaying the dismissal of those who have served the deadline , and the next call is suspended.
        If, something more cunning, then demobilization is underway - the dismissal of those who have served their term and sending them to their place of residence (registration for military service and something else is already there), someone signs a contract as a candidate and remains in their HF or in the direction . Wallpaper call to collect together - not that beds, roofs are not enough.
        And so, yes, real add to 300 thousand a hundred and something thousand bayonets on the spot, without bothering with everyday life.
        Quote: bayard
        And for a year of training / service, a fighter is already considered a fully prepared warrior. And they don't need any retraining, skills restoration.

        It's worse and more uneven. Without generalizing, BTG with equipment and contract soldiers left the HF, there were re-trained conscripts or even full-time units staffed with conscripts. But, neither the internal service, nor the territories, nor the garrisons, anti-terror, remote parks, storage facilities, training grounds, transportation, hospitals, loading and unloading, etc. have gone anywhere. officers and contractors to break and make up for losses. It is difficult to assess the level of training of conscripts in such a situation, but in general, it objectively cannot be higher than before the SVO.
        Obviously, the first option is more suitable, but it depends on the foreign policy, internal social and military situation, and a new draft is specified according to the assignment and postponed for a certain period or the draft resource is accumulated.
        1. +3
          30 September 2022 02: 49
          Quote: ada
          . Wallpaper call to collect together - not that beds, roofs are not enough.

          Well, firstly, most of the contractors are already in the NWO (the beds are free). In addition, one-year-olds who have served for a year and detained in the service can also form consolidated units for the NWO. And their beds are also freed.
          And voila - the location is ready to receive mobilized and conscripts. In this case, the military unit becomes a "center for training and combat coordination" for reservists, while general services are carried out mainly by conscripts.
          It is clear that there will be difficulties with officer cadres. But you can remember that in our active reserve, in addition to reserve officers of the RF Armed Forces, there are also 40 SOBR and OMON officers - retired (they have it early). Many of them can be recruited as instructors, commanders of training units and commanders of assault units for the NWO.
          You just need to manage the human resource wisely.
          And let the conscripts serve, pull the strap for a year, and there, if you're lucky, they will happen to fight. And earlier - it is impossible.
          1. ada
            +2
            30 September 2022 05: 15
            Quote: bayard
            Well, firstly, most of the contractors are already in the NWO (the beds are free) ...

            You are not a little optimistic (about the beds) wassat
            Rest. I understand you, but take my word for it - you can’t do this, everything that is being formed must go strictly according to the deployment scheme, otherwise the 41st will seem like nonsense (in terms of mobilization). The RPMs left by the declining RF and their other infrastructure already serve as part of the deployment base, but it needs a backbone and these are those who are intended for this or will be additionally designated when it is built up. Graduation from military educational institutions has been completed, the OZ and some of my comrades will be called up already in the HF. Officers and junior commanders will. This mission already comes from the general military record, but strictly according to the profile. This is underpinned by logistics. Nothing can be screwed up here. All attempts to "Let me steer" end worse than a plane crash, you watch part of the "taxi" live, I hope this will be corrected.
            1. +2
              30 September 2022 05: 38
              I also hope that it will creak and improve.
              About the officers of the OMON / SOBR, Solovyov had one deputy from the former there, he said. There is a pension from the age of 40, so you can also draw personnel from 40 thousand. And with experience, and skills not lost. Only often they are registered under their military ranks. Let's say the captain of the Airborne Forces got registered, and then in the OMON he rose to the rank of colonel. So, if they call him, they will call him a captain. request
              And replenishment at the fronts was needed yesterday - there are darkness of the Nazis, the armor is full, the resource support is complete ... And we have timely mobilization ... overslept. I'm afraid that now because of this, a cauldron can happen in Liman Krasny.
              hi
    3. 0
      29 September 2022 23: 57
      Do you really think that production will be reduced due to weapons?
  13. +19
    29 September 2022 21: 38
    It is somehow very sad and disturbing that the good news was not the new liberated cities, but that ours were able to hold out for another day ...
    1. +10
      29 September 2022 21: 49
      Ukraine announced mobilization on the very first day of the NWO.
      And the Russian authorities apparently wanted to cope with small forces. And it stubbornly still does not hit critical infrastructure.
      Therefore, everything is in the full astral plane from what may await us tomorrow.
      You wake up and look anxiously at the news feed. Is there another thrash there?
  14. +11
    29 September 2022 21: 49
    In general, all these briefings under the voice acting of Konashenkov with the destroyed are bullshit.
  15. +10
    29 September 2022 21: 53
    So maybe well, what for, this offensive in the north of Donbass. Which day we advance head-on, but there is no progress. Only losses.
    Wouldn't it be better to help the defenders of Liman?
    Although, there are not fools in the General Staff, but real geniuses of regroupings.
    1. -1
      30 September 2022 00: 55
      Yes, you are a genius. To increase the pressure of the enemy even more? Leave Wagner and Akhmat alone. Let Shoigu transfer divisions.
      1. 0
        30 September 2022 09: 11
        It's too late to change anything. Lyman abandoned.
        Another superbly planned regrouping was carried out.
        1. -1
          30 September 2022 16: 40
          How not ashamed to talk like that about the Krasnolimants defenders !!! They fought like no other.
          1. 0
            30 September 2022 21: 51
            I have nothing against Liman's defenders. These are heroes.
            1. 0
              1 October 2022 00: 39
              So the heroes continue to fight while they are buried here. And not Liman, but Red Liman. Deservedly Red, because there is a lot of blood.
  16. +1
    29 September 2022 21: 56
    Well at least they did the mobilization. Now there is some hope. And imagine that there is no mobilization and there is no need to count on replenishment, and the enemy is many times superior in strength and rushing.

    Everyone who claimed that the Russian army of contract soldiers without mobilization will overwhelm the Armed Forces of Ukraine and solve the assigned tasks should go and kill themselves against the wall. Including because of this attitude, the mobilization was carried out with such a delay. It should have been started in February and not 300 thousand, but immediately a million. Then it would be over by now.
    1. -1
      29 September 2022 22: 07
      So a million would not be digested at once
    2. +13
      29 September 2022 22: 50
      It's amazing how it was possible to oversleep such an accumulation of forces. It is funny and bitter after that to recall phrases like "we are in a hurry to go anywhere."
  17. +6
    29 September 2022 21: 59
    Quote: Gardamir
    despite the multiple superiority of the enemy in personnel
    And all these months they talked about the grinding of enemy troops.

    Until now, they are cheerfully trying, about the estuary is silent.
  18. +12
    29 September 2022 22: 22
    All this has been going on for more than two weeks ... In all of Russia there are no more military reserves (except for those mobilized)? Or are the guys in the center of America, surrounded by cut and it is impossible to get through to them? Some kind of game ... Such a feeling that our leadership simply indifferently bothers about this and that's it.
    1. +4
      29 September 2022 22: 49
      As Putin said: let them try, let's see what happens. They try it and it turns out. In fact, the impression that the army is over.
      1. +6
        29 September 2022 23: 28
        did we have an army about which we were told for so long and colorfully? After all, if there is a mess in the country, it cannot be otherwise in the army either. And thanks to the SVO, the people saw the real state of affairs. I think it was a surprise for the guarantor as well. Maybe even now he will understand the perniciousness of his personnel and economic policies and finally begin to delve into the problems of the country himself, take care of himself and force his henchmen and the entire army of officials to do business, and not just chat, PR and detachedly contemplate how the country is degrading.
        1. 0
          30 September 2022 01: 39
          Smart MO was only under Medvedev for a short time and was quickly eaten
      2. +3
        30 September 2022 01: 53
        Hello!! Everyone on the site. What was late with the mobile became clear right now. It's not just Ukraine. A massive transfer of troops of our friends to the borders of our country began. Lukashenka did not fly in vain. Our enemies have moved. The thing is very bad. Mass equipment is also coming to the Baltic states. This was not announced in advance. probably the crisis will break out not without reason exaggerate the Caribbean. It's time to end with the outskirts and extremely hard. And the Yankees will not choose the main one in Ukraine. I don’t know which general will be approved, but then it will be bad. The Yankees will legally flicker in Kyiv and the army warehouses will open wide. Everything will be decided in the coming days.
        1. +4
          30 September 2022 05: 13
          God forbid, we are late for the start of Blitzkrieg-2 in Belarus. If the enemy manages to realize the Minsk pocket, then in a week NATO troops will be near Smolensk, and there will be nothing to move towards the Poles and the Cossacks.
          Hopes for mobilization are not too joyful. Having called on a couple of millions, you will have to arm them with anything, at least buy on the black market. In general, the extermination of the deployment system by Serdyukov is a crime sanctioned from above, and not bungling at all.
    2. +8
      29 September 2022 23: 47
      we have 5 million security officials of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Security Service, the Federal Penitentiary Service, the Federal Security Service, etc. etc. , about a million army of conscripts. These are mostly prepared, healthy, young people who must first of all protect the country and its people. But for some reason it is impossible to use them in the NWO. It is imperative that 300 mobilized age-old civilian men be torn from their jobs, many of whom have already forgotten what they were taught in the army. And war is a matter of the young and prepared.
    3. +2
      30 September 2022 08: 53
      Such a feeling that our leadership is simply indifferently bothering about this and that's it.

      To be honest, I also think about it, but I have a more seditious thought ...
      You know, guys, I have a feeling from these videos about mobilization, surrounded by Liman, the behavior of the military commissars and other mess, that the military ... how to put it mildly ...
      Are waiting.
      Something is waiting. And this "something" is clearly not a victory over Ukraine.
      I hope it just seems to me.
  19. 0
    29 September 2022 22: 26
    The work of combat helicopters, but we have three times less than necessary.
  20. +3
    29 September 2022 22: 37
    The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was going to launch a counterattack from the northwestern part of Artyomovsk, but after the Ka-52 attack helicopters attacked enemy forces, they abandoned this plan.

    In, we even know what the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was going to do ....
  21. +1
    29 September 2022 22: 38
    Quote from Heaven
    Well at least they did the mobilization. Now there is some hope. And imagine that there is no mobilization and there is no need to count on replenishment, and the enemy is many times superior in strength and rushing.

    Then ours will have to turn off gas to Ukraine and win ours.
    The incoming new soldiers make it possible to continue to wage a positional war, which someone needs for some reason.
  22. -4
    29 September 2022 22: 41
    Yes, it brings wild melancholy https://yandex.ru/video/touch/preview/7786887599073447399
  23. +1
    29 September 2022 22: 41
    No matter how you read, the Ukrainians suffer huge losses both in attack and in defense)
    1. -4
      30 September 2022 00: 57
      Do you think Zele cares what losses his army suffers? He will still dump out of the broken-down undercountry.
  24. +1
    29 September 2022 22: 47
    "At this stage, without the transfer of significant reinforcements and the concentration of attention of the command of the RF Armed Forces in the Liman direction, there is a serious risk of the fall of Liman and further collapse of the defensive orders of the RF Armed Forces on the western borders of the Luhansk People's Republic." (With)

    What are our commanders thinking?

    Are you also surprised by the lengthy ceremonies for the admission of the republics into the composition? What for?
    1. +1
      30 September 2022 05: 46
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      The lengthy ceremonies for the admission of the republics to the composition are also surprising.
      What will change in general, except for the status?
  25. +5
    29 September 2022 23: 09
    Where did the Nazis get armor from? Indeed, according to the reports of the Ministry of Defense, we have already destroyed it 2 or even 3 times.
    1. 0
      30 September 2022 02: 08
      With what fright they destroyed everything. NATO will give up. Fortunately, transport and highways are intact. We are still afraid to give the present along the border in the west of Ukraine. I hope after taking four everything will change and hell will come in Ukraine. This is the only way to explain such trampling of our troops. they will be reckoned with.
    2. -5
      30 September 2022 02: 33
      Do not talk nonsense. No one has stated this. Will there be proofs about two or three times?
  26. +4
    29 September 2022 23: 14
    What is happening under Liman defies any logical explanation! The guys are undoubtedly Heroes, and then only bad words.
  27. +5
    29 September 2022 23: 14
    Soldiers may express their readiness to fight, but commanders should have a broader view. If we do not have reserves for a counterattack, we must immediately leave Liman. Immediately. If a counterattack is being prepared, then Liman is playing the role of a trap. And then his defense is justified. I hope the commanders understand what they are doing
    1. +2
      29 September 2022 23: 18
      It is not very clear how someone can be caught there. There, far from being in the gut, the enemy is advancing.
      1. 0
        29 September 2022 23: 25
        You can, if you have the strength. This is not a hard defense, a lot of holes. Again, if there is something to hit, the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can be cut off. How the Germans cut us off near Kharkov at 42m
        1. 0
          30 September 2022 01: 00
          Now the scale is not the same, there is almost no one to fight, refuseniks, wounded, rear
        2. 0
          30 September 2022 09: 12
          Already trimmed.
          Liman is actually in the operational environment. DRGs are now entering the supply road to Svatovo. Part of it is under the control of Ukrainian artillery

          Will there be more ideas for luring the APU into a trap?
          1. -1
            30 September 2022 09: 52
            Man, I know the same as you. I also can not explain the reason for the inaction of our command. But I don't want to panic
            1. +1
              30 September 2022 10: 15
              And there is no need to panic.
              You just need to clearly understand what exactly and why is happening and will continue to happen.
              Awareness of objective reality is always very useful, and especially in the current situation.
              1. -1
                30 September 2022 12: 42
                Well explain that you there accurately represent. I don't represent anything.
  28. -2
    29 September 2022 23: 25
    Lots of text and fluff.
    It would be useful to attach a database map, for clarity.
    ISW illustrates its report with Kupyansk completely lost and KL practically surrounded, the only narrow way through Torskoye.
    Confidently predict the environment, let's check how good American analysts are.
  29. -3
    29 September 2022 23: 59
    Let's break through. The main thing is to survive. Wait for reinforcements.
    1. -1
      30 September 2022 05: 21
      And where will we break through if we stand?
      If we give the enemy the initiative, then he will break through not where we held out, but where he succeeds. He chooses.
      It is necessary to seize the initiative and deploy the Belarusian front.
      Only lazy people do not write about strikes on infrastructure, but apparently Boreas are needed for this, and at this stage, this is a taboo for our leadership.
  30. +3
    30 September 2022 00: 01
    The complete failure of the NWO format is a lack of manpower and resources. An attempt to sell us the idea of ​​a professional army can be considered lost. Our army and the military-industrial complex cannot do anything without the involvement of the people. That's just important and necessary decisions are made with a delay of 3 months. It would be possible to do all this at the beginning of the summer, just in case. There would be a serious strategic reserve and during the Kharkov disgrace everything could be solved by the "north wind" as before. And now we see the unabated pressure of the ukrovoyak for a whole month and the capture of settlements at a more effective and rapid pace than the NVO contingent. It’s a pity, but our leadership was clearly not ready for this, and it was qualitatively necessary to provide for such a variant
    1. -3
      30 September 2022 00: 54
      Non-professional people were constantly afraid of this and said, but the leadership was not ready?
      1. 0
        7 October 2022 00: 22
        Is there any confidence in the readiness of the leadership? Especially professional? The same Gerasim just has hard work on his face, more like regret that for a long time there will be no biathlons, army games and comfortable exercises in the Far East. Safe sources of income are disappearing. But among non-professionals, initially there were questions about bridges across the Dnieper, about where the enemy got the fuel from, about why they didn’t start from the Western region, not to mention the number of troops employed. Civilians are more aware of hernias and untied navels from overexertion.
  31. +6
    30 September 2022 00: 01
    Quote from Gromit
    Lots of text and fluff.
    It would be useful to attach a database map, for clarity.
    ISW illustrates its report with Kupyansk completely lost and KL practically surrounded, the only narrow way through Torskoye.
    Confidently predict the environment, let's check how good American analysts are.

    The estuary is already surrounded, the mediocrity with stripes fought over ..... This is what kind of debauchers you need to be in order to sit on the zhpe evenly for two weeks and watch how hhl, directs crossings, transfers equipment and gradually squeezes out one village after another. and not a damn thing to do for correcting the situation, let these ghouls themselves climb into the trenches, led by a mediocre foreman.
    And the President of our country is generally aware that while he is going to sign papers there, it will reach Lugansk???
    1. -3
      30 September 2022 00: 58
      I agree! There are reserves, you can transfer something from quieter areas, but we don’t know about the agreements, maybe they exchanged the Kharkiv region for Donetsk
    2. -1
      30 September 2022 00: 59
      It seems that the Krasnolimans were sold as the 6th company.
      1. 0
        30 September 2022 05: 25
        I would like to believe that it is not in vain.
        An analogy arises with the last battle of the "gray" (H.R. Hogarth "King Solomon's Mines"),
      2. -1
        30 September 2022 08: 45
        This is not a company. This is the 752 motorized rifle regiment.
        1. +1
          30 September 2022 16: 42
          And the analogy is the same. The last thing the commander of the 6th company said: "S" ki, you betrayed us!
  32. -3
    30 September 2022 00: 13
    Denis Kulaga reports that near Bakhmut our people went on the offensive
    1. 0
      30 September 2022 01: 00
      I have a question: if Bakhmut and Soledar fall, will this be a problem for the Sumerians?
  33. +1
    30 September 2022 00: 32
    Now, because of this Lyman, the dream is gone, and the viskar does not climb. But Putin signed decrees recognizing the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions as independent territories! Previously, the president drenched terrorists in the toilet, and now...
    1. -2
      30 September 2022 01: 00
      What kind of independents? Recognized as Russian subjects.
    2. -1
      30 September 2022 02: 21
      Take your time. Now is the time that everyone has been waiting for. These adopted regions are already Russia. and the answer will be appropriate. It is not for nothing that the Saxons predict a different format of battles, possibly throughout Ukraine. Wait, it's not for nothing that this is being done. I hope there are good reasons for this. Perhaps the time has come for tough military responses for the Nazis. The time for toffee is over.
      1. -1
        30 September 2022 05: 14
        I would like tough answers and a new format of the operation... But, to be honest, it's hard to believe... We used all the trump cards, only a nuclear strike remained...
  34. +1
    30 September 2022 00: 57
    The red estuary will still come back to haunt us, it is a betrayal to remain inactive in stopping this threat for so long
    1. 0
      30 September 2022 16: 43
      In our history of red estuaries, the sea, from Albazin to the Sea of ​​Azov (this is about the Cossacks, not about the fascists).
  35. -2
    30 September 2022 02: 06
    And what prevents a massive missile and bomb strike against a cluster of Ukronazis near K. Liman? How long can you wait: they stand, they don’t stand ...
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  37. +3
    30 September 2022 06: 05
    The situation on the Limansky direction
    by the end of September 29, 2022

    Ukrainian formations continue to surround Liman, developing an offensive towards the territorial borders of the Luhansk People's Republic. The Liman garrison is fighting in an operational environment with superior enemy forces.

    On the outskirts of Liman

    The enemy tried to attack the city from three directions: from the side of Dibrov, the Brusino railway station and the Old Caravan. The garrison is holding out, all attacks are repulsed.

    The Armed Forces of Ukraine are intensively shelling Liman with all available means of destruction, including MLRS HIMARS.

    North of Liman

    The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine occupied Kolodezi, Zelenaya Dolina and cut the road Svatovo - Makeevka - Terny - Liman.

    From the village of Kolodezi, a platoon of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with the support of armored vehicles, conducted reconnaissance in the direction of Zarechny (Kirovsk). After a fire defeat by the artillery of the People's Militia of the LPR, the Ukrainian formations were forced to retreat.

    The last road connecting the Liman garrison with the territory controlled by the allied forces passes through Zarechnoye-Torskoye. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are attacking villages from the north from the side of the village of Kolodezi and from the south - from the bridgehead on the banks of the Seversky Donets.

    West of Liman

    The Armed Forces of Ukraine occupied Shandrigolovo and Novoselka. The western flank of Liman's defense in Drobyshevo is held by fighters from BARS-13 and the 20th combined-arms army of the RF Armed Forces.

  38. -1
    30 September 2022 07: 17
    Despite the losses, the enemy grouping attacking Drobyshevo is gradually increasing in size.

    Maybe someone will wake up and start hitting critical infrastructure to slow down the delivery of equipment and live sills, turn off the light and railway, bridges and send 3 shifts of aviation and artillery.
  39. 0
    30 September 2022 07: 18
    Excuse me, excuse me, but where are the high-browed "experts" - apologists for "a small, compact, but exceptionally well-trained and equipped contract army"? After all, they arrogantly sneered through their lips that this army would drive any army based on general mobilization with dirty towels. They arrogantly received that the platoon of such a contract army would do battalions and brigades. They also snarled that this "crippled scoop" needed hundreds of thousands of personnel, and the "army of a new type" in the war of the "new type" of personnel needed nothing.
    Perhaps the fact is that these "experts" have never served in the army and have no idea what an army organism is, and in general what war is.
    For example, in order to drive all sorts of Bushmen and Masai with their spears and flint and guns, the British had enough of 100 Ground Forces. But after the British raked from the Wehrmacht in France and Belgium, it suddenly became clear that they had no infantry and artillery to repel the German landing at all.
    And now we are paying with blood for blindly following the instructions of the "experts", who have read all sorts of bookoffs, but who have not sniffed the army service.
    1. 0
      30 September 2022 09: 18
      Well, in fact, because of these people, who sniffed the service and still did not understand why, in modern conditions, we cannot fight crowds of people with a modern enemy and we have what we have.

      The experience when the enemy launched crowded herds of equipment and columns into targeted squares and burned them with artillery does not teach people anything.
  40. +6
    30 September 2022 09: 09
    According to Lyman, all these days, the inaction of our command before, I explained to myself by the fact that they see the situation better. And I tried not to criticize. Now I don't understand anything. This is similar to self-removal from command. The fighters are fighting, and the generals are jamming the cognac? Or maybe it's a direct betrayal? I do not understand
    1. +1
      30 September 2022 10: 23
      There is no betrayal there.
      In order to understand:

      There was a report upstairs about the planned regrouping of forces from the Kharkov direction to the Donetsk direction in order to fulfill the main task of liberating the Donbass.
      Reports are going up on the successes in the Donetsk direction and the fulfillment of these tasks.
      These successes require strength, and if these successes are not at the top, the question may arise: "What was the regrouping for?"
      1. 0
        30 September 2022 12: 40
        That is, units are removed from the threatened direction and transferred to calm areas. What is this if not a betrayal, * -,
        1. 0
          30 September 2022 12: 56
          Covering your butt and trying to keep your warm place at all costs.
          Well, yes, they began to remove them according to plan after everything fell apart, and the hectic planned transfer of reserves by turntables did not give any results.
  41. 0
    30 September 2022 11: 41
    Estuary is already surrounded, according to reports this morning.
    It's time to introduce tribunals for sabotage and wrecking
  42. 0
    30 September 2022 13: 27
    Quote: Tank DestroyerSU-100
    Excuse me, excuse me, but where are the high-browed "experts" - apologists for "a small, compact, but exceptionally well-trained and equipped contract army"?

    Because in fact there was no such army. Such an army requires, above all, technological superiority over the enemy. On which we expected that there would be a sett-centric war on the part of Russia against the old Ukrainian army. where drones will hang in the air constantly transmitting real-time target designations for our aircraft and high-precision weapons. Where calibers and iskanders will instantly destroy enemy control posts and bases.
    On paper and on TV in front of the SV, everything looked exactly like that.
    But in reality, it turned out that all this is just nonsense and there is nothing like that in the Russian army.
    Therefore, the leadership, having once again deceived everyone, dragged us into the war, and now again the people must save the ass of the leadership and their country.
    Maybe it's cheaper to change the leadership and stop the war?
  43. +2
    30 September 2022 13: 27
    The enemy has a lot of infantry and armor ....
    --------------------
    And where is our infantry and armor?
    Is it just formed and done?
    And what did they do for 7 months, they only spent infantry and equipment, and did not replenish?
  44. +1
    30 September 2022 14: 14
    Creatures are corrupt generals, guys are dying in Liman, there is no help, but they have a holiday. When will they remove this mediocrity and pests, when will there be tribunals for all this stupidity. Maybe that's why many flee the country, not because they are afraid, but because our generals and the Defense Ministry do not correspond to their positions. What a pity that we do not have Stalin and SMERSH
  45. -1
    30 September 2022 17: 12
    Butusov writes to Ukrainian propaganda that columns are passing through Zarechnoye - civilians mixed with the military. So Liman is being evacuated. And this is good. They defended as much as they could, and then came out in order - the best thing to expect in such circumstances
  46. -3
    30 September 2022 22: 13
    The most important thing in such a situation is that the bridges across the Dnieper should work normally ...
  47. 0
    1 October 2022 09: 43
    Apparently, the parquet commanders did not bother to conduct reconnaissance.
  48. 0
    1 October 2022 15: 18
    What kind of reality do you guys live in, ours left Liman ..