German press: German intelligence transmits data on Russian troops to Kyiv

The German media came out with publications that actually confirm the obvious for a long time. In a Die Zeit article, German journalists testify that German intelligence is transferring data about Russian troops to the Ukrainian army.

The article says that German intelligence provides Kyiv with information on the approximate number, armament and movement of Russian troops in certain areas. At the same time, it is alleged that these data are transmitted to the Ukrainian army "with a delay of several days."

With the very article about the transfer of intelligence to Ukraine, Germany clearly wants to demonstrate that it is providing serious military assistance to Kyiv. In turn, with the media remark about the "delay" in the transfer of data, Berlin is trying to declare that it is "not a party to the conflict with Russia."

The German side also emphasizes that the transfer of data to the Ukrainian side is exclusively about that part of the Russian troops "which is located on the territory of Ukraine." Recall that Crimea in Germany is still considered Ukrainian territory, which means that there is a transfer of intelligence information from Berlin to Kyiv in relation to Russian troops stationed on the Crimean peninsula.

Earlier, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said that Berlin would not supply its Tanksif partners do not. At the same time, nothing prevents Scholz from supplying other heavy weapons for the Kyiv regime, including self-propelled howitzers.

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[tlauicol]

Now, for the opportunity to get gas, and the tanks will be delivered like cute

[midivan]

Quote: Tlauicol

Now, for the opportunity to get gas, and the tanks will be delivered like cute

Get gas from whom? Well, if only we steal tanks, and we give them gas, which, in principle, is happening, they are already leading to an increase in volumes through the remaining pipe through Ukraine for the time being.

[Fedor Sokolov]

From the "allies" of the Yankees! With friends like Britain and the US, Germany doesn't need enemies.

[smart ass]

Why doesn't Scholz ask for a gas price compensation from the states?

[RED_ICE]

Now gas is supplied via the Polish gas pipeline from Norway

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: RED_ICE

Now gas is supplied via the Polish gas pipeline from Norway

How does this happen? And for whom does he supposedly act?

[RED_ICE]

Baltic Pipe opened between Norway and Poland
https://vz.ru/news/2022/9/27/1179617.html

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: RED_ICE

Baltic Pipe opened between Norway and Poland
https://vz.ru/news/2022/9/27/1179617.html

How did you listen. It was opened purely symbolically, because they said that the construction was not yet completed. They voiced this on a significant date for them, undermining our gas pipelines.

[Alexander Rasmukhambetov]

As always, it will be so, I won’t be surprised. Someone is fighting and someone is counting the loot.

[ankir13]

Through Ukraine, gas from Russia to the Germans, LNG from Yamal, the Americans chartered gas carriers will also go to the Germans, German tanks to Bandera, at the expense of gas, fat to the Americans, and to the Turks from the south stream, Russian war, the gas cycle in nature.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Tlauicol

Now, for the opportunity to get gas, and the tanks will be delivered like cute

The Germans have swindlers squeezed in an American vise, there is no gas from Russia, everything depends on the US LNG. The United States got its own from Germany.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: tihonmarine

USA got their way from Germany

So Burbock and Scholz apparently also achieved what they wanted, or not?

[tlauicol]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Tlauicol

Now, for the opportunity to get gas, and the tanks will be delivered like cute

The Germans have swindlers squeezed in an American vise, there is no gas from Russia, everything depends on the US LNG. The United States got its own from Germany.

That's what it's about. We won’t ask them about tanks

[dmi.pris1]

Lord, corrupt women are more honest than this nemchura in Berlin

[Sotskiy]

Lord, corrupt women are more honest than this nemchura in Berlin

And then who are those who sold this "nemchura in Berlin" to the West, destroying the Warsaw Pact?
"Salt" of the Russian land?
There is a Russian proverb: "As it comes around, it will respond"

[dmi.pris1]

This "salt" the devils in hell are turning in a frying pan ... You are right - you betrayed not only our state, but also allies in the police department ...

[lwxx]

Quote: dmi.pris

but also allies in the ATS ...

Let's be honest, the allies are still the same. Hostages, yes, that's how allies ... If only the GDR, those honest guys. Were.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sovetskiy

"Salt" of the Russian land?

Judas Golovlev and False Dmitry.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: dmi.pris

Lord, corrupt women are more honest than this nemchura in Berlin

But now Scholz has a working turbine.
And the moral problems with the work of Nord Stream disappeared ...

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Paul Siebert

moral problems with the work of Nord Stream disappeared ...

... at the same time, the "German horse" that dragged the cart of the European Union on itself will also disappear

[fiv]

How inopportunely the climate warming began. I hope that Comrade Moroz will nevertheless clear the brain of some citizens in Europe. And subsidies to individual members of the European Union should also probably shrink from frost, otherwise they are so happy that the "Streams" exploded, the Germans simply must be offended

[NG inform]

And that stupid methane release. I hope it does not hurt -30 in Germany this winter.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

“German intelligence transmits data to the Ukrainian authorities with a delay of several days,”

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- Estonian in general in a month ...
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[Nexcom]

They're not brakes, they're just ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

- Estonian in general in a month ...

You offend the boss, we always run, ahead of the horse and all of Europe.

[rotmistr60]

German intelligence is engaged in the transfer of data on Russian troops to the Ukrainian army.

Of course, this is not a secret for a long time, because. all NATO countries share information to the best of their ability. And as if the reservation that the Germans transmit information "with a delay of several days" is, one might say, nothing more than an attempt to make a good German face with a bad game. All have long been tied together by the blood of Russian soldiers and the civilian population of Donbass.

[Yaro Polk]

The Nazis avenge the Reichstag and Stalingrad.

[ivan2022]

As in the old joke: "if you need a CIA resident, then go upstairs." Intelligence just like home ....

It would be interesting to know how domestic intelligence is doing and why they don’t write anything, does it transmit at least something to Moscow?

And then, judging by the "rhythmic" movements of the troops either forward or backward, everything about the enemy is found out empirically
: if they shoot, then you can’t go there.

[Boris Sergeev]

And after that, Germany is not a party to the conflict? Maybe they will also assemble the "Norman group" now?

[ivan2022]

Quote: Yaro Polk

The Nazis avenge the Reichstag and Stalingrad.

We have so many "the first of Russia's two troubles" that the revenge of the Nazis is a childish prank.

The crazy drunk in 1991 divided the country into 15 parts and at the same time made Ukraine "independent" in order to "feed no one and equip Russia", so he was elected President of the Russian Federation for the second time! There weren't even mass protests.

[Sagetaus]

Quote: ivan2022

Quote: Yaro Polk

The Nazis avenge the Reichstag and Stalingrad.

We have so many "the first of Russia's two troubles" that the revenge of the Nazis is a childish prank.

The crazy drunk in 1991 divided the country into 15 parts and at the same time made Ukraine "independent" in order to "feed no one and equip Russia", so he was elected President of the Russian Federation for the second time! There weren't even mass protests.

However, even now, with the general understanding that the regime, like an octopus, tightly clung to all levels and sucked the country to the state of a corpse, the "rejoicing" managed to introduce a narrative that supposedly a coup d'état and total purges were not an option, "they took place in 17" etc. That's what's interesting.

[Dikson]

I wonder if there is at least some other country that does not transfer information about Russian troops to Ukraine? Of those that our Roscosmos launched satellites, for example? Or any other countries? Mozambique? Cape Verde? All Europe is at war with us. All. anyway. take off your rose-colored glasses.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Dikson

All Europe is at war with us. All. anyway. take off your rose-colored glasses.

The decisions and actions of the pro-American administration in European countries may not coincide with the opinion of the population of these countries.
If ALL EUROPE WERE AT WAR WITH RUSSIA, then out of the 700 million citizens opposed to us, FOR SURE there would be a group of one and a half to two million.
Really tearing anuses is not being in the EU Britain (to ensure its place as a leader in the European economy) and demoniac Poland, dreaming of taking revenge on Germany for 1939.
Tell me it's not true, that it's a lie. Give the figures, the number of weapons transferred and the soldiers of foreign armies fighting for Zelensky ... Is there such a thing? So this is chatter.
The hour is not far off when the population of Europe will understand why the Ukrainian collar was imposed on it, who did it and what goals they pursue.

[Dikson]

Sorry, what's missing? No transfer of weapons to Ukraine by European countries? There are no foreign legionnaires and PMCs fighting on the side of Ukraine? This is chatter, don't you think? "The hour will come" .. of course it will come .. They also worked for Hitler and fought on his side, and a little later they threw flowers on the armor of our thirty-fours .. That's all the opinion of citizens of European countries ..

[yuriy55]

Quote: Dikson

Sorry, what's missing?

I assumed that you were fluent in Russian...

Quote: Dikson

All Europe is at war with us.

Quote: yuriy55

If ALL EUROPE WERE AT WAR WITH RUSSIA, then out of the 700 million citizens opposed to us, FOR SURE there would be a group of one and a half to two million.

PMCs are not states, and mercenaries are not regular troops ... Take care of the numbers, prove with a calculator in your hand by comparison ...

[Sagetaus]

Quote: yuriy55

The hour is not far off when the population of Europe will understand why the Ukrainian collar was imposed on it, who did it and what goals they pursue.

Just not in the post-truth era. IMHO

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The problem is not German or NATO intelligence and military assistance, the problem is that we ourselves are messing around for a long time.

The Germans are pulling with the help of Kyiv as best they can, this is obvious.

The problem is with us in our strategy in this war.

Incomprehensible trips to Kyiv, some meaningless negotiations. What did they want to achieve? It is clear after the Minsk agreements that Kyiv does not fulfill any agreements.

Undertook to fight - let's fight. The campaign was needed not to Kyiv, but to encircle the Donbass grouping together with Kharkov. It was necessary to pass through Sumy and Poltava to the Dnieper and cut off most of the forces from the supply, then neither NATO artillery nor the Hymers would have got there, but without ammunition we could have defeated this grouping and taken prisoner.

We do not need to limit ourselves in the use of force, if necessary, then attract conscripts somewhere for the third third line of defense, mobilize when necessary, and not when they peck in one place.

And all these excuses that the West is helping, is a recognition of their own mediocrity and short-sightedness, since such a development of events was obvious.

The more we drag out the conflict and the more often we talk about negotiations, the more confident and bold the enemy is.

It is necessary to fight in such a way that the enemy himself asks for negotiations, and not we offered them to him.

[Dikson]

There will be no "trips on Kyiv" anymore.. Don't you understand yet? Our leadership is no longer even hinting, but stupidly point-blank begging Ukraine for some kind of negotiations, making "goodwill gestures" that cause nothing but misunderstanding and rejection, All these "preservation of the economy and transport infrastructure", and silent wiping from spitting The West is in the spirit of the same: "she drowned" .. Someone talks about our frank helplessness, someone - about a "cunning plan" .. But at the same time everyone understands that the continuation of such a line of behavior in this situation is the collapse of Russia . In all senses.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Dikson

But at the same time, everyone understands that the continuation of such a line of behavior in this situation is the collapse of Russia. In all senses.

Throw panic. This may be a collapse for power in the Kremlin, but not for Russia. The situation requires the adoption of extraordinary, but cardinal decisions. Mooing and puffing out of the cheeks against the background of partial mobilization may look like antics and mimicry. Thousands of those who died during the NWO are a huge price for indecision and weak will ... The State Duma is already demanding that the moratorium on the death penalty be lifted. Still in the form of proposals...

[Dikson]

But about the death penalty - I think the majority of the population of our country with you would support such a decision almost unanimously. Because when normal citizens put their lives under bullets and die from torture in captivity, all freedom. in the country can rape, kill and steal on an industrial scale with virtually impunity .. This is definitely not fair. When I wrote "collapse for Russia", I meant for the most part the economic component .. because "Thousands of those who died during the NWO are a huge price" and for enterprises, these are working hands, specialists who need time and money to train .. I think we still we will see a lot of women in those jobs where men usually worked ..

[yuriy55]

Quote: Dikson

But about the death penalty - I think the majority of the population of our country with you would support such a decision almost unanimously. Because when normal citizens put their lives under bullets and die from torture in captivity, all freedom. in the country can rape, kill and steal on an industrial scale with virtually impunity .. This is definitely not fair. When I wrote "collapse for Russia", I meant for the most part the economic component .. because "Thousands of those who died during the NWO are a huge price" and for enterprises, these are working hands, specialists who need time and money to train .. I think we still we will see a lot of women in those jobs where men usually worked ..

I agree ...

[Sagetaus]

Quote: yuriy55

The State Duma is already demanding to lift the moratorium on the death penalty. Still in the form of proposals...

It’s only interesting who they are going to execute, if they don’t even put them in jail, and even don’t remove them from their posts

[Uprun]

I am waiting for the factories of "geldings", "opels" to start following the "foltz", then the Germans will free up energy capacities for the production of tanks ... Campaign, for the local "foltz" will soon become a foreign car ... My congratulations .... and most best wishes...

[yuriy55]

Earlier, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said that Berlin would not supply its tanks to Kyiv if partners did not do this.

Scholz, in order to save the place of German Chancellor and his own life (even anything can happen) should take care of other issues:
1. Does Germany need this EU and NATO itself, if the Anglo-Saxons are so concerned about its economic (without military intervention) death?
2. What role does Poland play in all recent events that she dared to raise her voice and lift her tail?
3. With whom in a real union can Germany gain real independence, how did she acquire unification?

[jovanni]

German intelligence transmits data on Russian troops to Kyiv

What a pity that Russian intelligence, apparently, did not transmit data to Moscow about the true state of affairs in Ukraine before the start of the NWO. And more about Raisins, Balakleya ... I wonder if Moscow knows about Krasny Liman? ...

[Sagetaus]

Quote: Jovanni

And more about Raisins, Balakleya ... I wonder if Moscow knows about Krasny Liman? ...

Let's see what happens first, and then we'll decide how to react.

[iouris]

Bundeswehr generals are training (on kitties).

[Petr_Koldunov]

German intelligence ended: civilian - at the time of the liquidation of the Stasi, and the army - in general, at the time of the liquidation of the Abwehr.
All the capabilities that the Germans now have, including intelligence, are the capabilities of the Americans and NATO. And the Bundeswehr itself, taken separately, is a low-functional structure that poses no threat. Therefore, we must say it as it is: NATO is transferring intelligence to Ukraine.

[opposite28]

Gas diet burghers will benefit. They will thank the intelligence of Germany. Well done. There were two months left before winter.

[Radical]

German press: German intelligence transmits data on Russian troops to Kyiv

Fine. It's all regular. BND - she is the Bundes NaChrist Dinst. Organizer - Colonel Gelen. Is anyone interested? Wiki to help.