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A direct and obvious threat is sabotage at Nord Stream

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A direct and obvious threat is sabotage at Nord Stream
So hundreds of millions go from under the water to the wind. Source: Telegram



Technique and sabotage


The situation developed rapidly. On the night of September 26, pressure dropped sharply in the Nord Stream 1 pipes. A little later, the same thing was recorded in the idle branch of Nord Stream 2. Despite the status “not working”, there was gas in the pipe under pressure. The rest of the branches passed no more than 20% of the design capacity. The Swiss company Nord Stream AG was the first to sound the alarm. It was created specifically to manage gas pipelines from Russia.

Company managers said:
“The destruction that occurred on the same day simultaneously on three strings of the offshore gas pipelines of the Nord Stream system is unprecedented. It is not yet possible to estimate the timing of the restoration of the gas transport infrastructure.”

There is no need to talk about an accident - only a targeted sabotage can simultaneously disable three pipes at once. The collapse of the pipes happened in the Danish exclusive zone southeast of Bornholm, and it was the Danes who were the first to disseminate photographs of Russian natural gas gushing from the seabed. There are several spots on the surface of the water, the largest in diameter is about 1 kilometer, a small one is no more than 200 meters. According to estimates, $2 billion worth of natural gas could escape into the atmosphere. There is no need to talk about the scale of the ecological catastrophe that is now unfolding off the Danish coast.

on September 27 news came from Sweden, where local seismologists recorded two explosions:
"One of the explosions had a magnitude of 2,3 and was registered at measuring stations across the country."
The police even gave a name to this event - "gross sabotage."


Source: gazprom.ru

Indeed, such a diversion requires brute force. What does Nord Stream represent itself in technical terms? These are two strings of 1224 km each, laid on the Baltic bottom with pipes with a diameter of 1,22 meters. It is difficult to calculate what pressure was in the pipes at the time of the explosion (and this was clearly an explosion), but nominally 220 bar (217 atmospheres) at the inlet, and up to 106 bar (104 atmospheres) in Germany at the outlet. The pressure is excessive - the Germans have enough of it for another hundred kilometers of transportation by land. Hence the thickness of the pipes, varying from 27 to 41 mm. At the same time, the pipes are additionally covered on the outside with several centimeters of a concrete jacket reinforced with steel. To defeat such a thick-walled object, either targeted torpedoing with a shaped charge was required, or simply undermining several dozen explosives in TNT equivalent.

This is probably why the terminal section of the pipe was chosen, the wall thickness of which approaches 27 mm. This is a design feature of the pipeline - the farther from Russia, the less pressure and the thinner the wall. And the depth at the place of the gust is relatively small - only 70 meters. These are quite working conditions for most NATO deep-sea vehicles. Why are there bathyscaphes, modern scuba gear can withstand 300 meters under water. In fairness, the highly developed fleets of NATO countries have no problem in undermining the most durable segments of the gas pipeline near Russia. Just closer to Europe, the execution is easier and already definitely for sure. In addition, sabotage near the coasts of Denmark and Sweden will make it possible to unequivocally blame Russia. They say that they not only completely cut off the gas, but also organized a local environmental catastrophe.

How long does it take for gas to escape from broken pipes? It's hard to say, but under normal conditions, gas traveled from the Russian Portovaya compressor station to Germany for twelve days. Under the current conditions, the Germans are obliged to buy up to 40 billion cubic meters of Russian gas annually until 2030. Now this condition takes on a special flavor.

Who needs it?


Considering the attack on the Nord Stream lines as a full-fledged attack on Russian infrastructure should be done with a high degree of conventionality. First of all, because the operator company Nord Stream AG is only 51% owned by Russia, respectively, and the "pipe" is slightly more than half of ours. There are still Germans, Dutch and French in the share. But if it is quite strictly, then the sabotage is still anti-Russian. However, it carries enormous risks for Europe. For an indefinite period, Ukraine becomes the main supplier of gas, through which the last working pipeline string passes. Then we begin to bring the logical chains together.

The Germans recently once again refused to supply heavy weapons to Ukraine, from which Kyiv simply begged. Yes, and Mother Europe herself has not been particularly generous with Tanks and rocket launchers for the needs of Bandera. And now the only valve on the gas pipe near Kyiv. Or near Warsaw, which may well launch Yamal-Europe again. Most likely it will. The Poles are the main advocates of the Kyiv regime in the European Union and they must put the squeeze on the Germans in matters of supply weapons. That is the mission. Warsaw's recent encroachments on reparations speak very well of relations between Germany and Poland.

There is also the Turkish Stream, but it is much more difficult to transfer gas flows to the west of Europe through it. Winter is coming and there are not many free capacities here.


Source: gazprom.ru

As a result, Ukraine not only gets the trumps of gas transit in its hands, but also another reason to blame Russia. In the matter of information warfare, the Bandera people have become adept for a long time - this can be seen with the naked eye. Relatively small, but still, the losses of the Russian budget also warm the souls of Bandera. Here the score is definitely 3:0 in favor of Kyiv.

Undermining three branches of the gas pipeline at once put out of action the only route of natural gas to Europe independent of transit countries. And the sabotage was prudently committed in European waters, so that Russian repairmen could not under any circumstances get to the point of explosion. Neither for repair, nor for studying the circumstances of what happened.

Further along the chain we move to the UK and the USA, which are neither hot nor cold from the gas "key" from the bottom of the sea somewhere off the coast of Europe. Well, hydrocarbons are pouring into the European atmosphere, what's special? However, without the sanction of these hegemons, such an event would not have taken place in any way. Because political dividends here are just a full trunk.

Firstly, the Germans insisted more and more insistently on the launch of Nord Stream 2. Winter is getting closer, the temperature in the house is getting lower, and the factories stop one by one. Now the unfortunate Germans simply have nothing to connect. I won't be surprised if the Americans also sabotage the process of repairing the pipeline. By the way, USS Kearsarge, a Wasp-class assault ship of the US Navy, recently visited Bornholm Island. He has the notoriety of participating in the bombing of Yugoslavia. It is impossible to carry out an operation to destroy the gas pipeline at relatively shallow depths of the Baltic without the assistance of NATO fleets. No Russian deep-sea submersible could have made it this far to the west without being noticed.

Secondly, an acute gas crisis due to the failure of an important traffic flow will cause another wave of industrial flight from Germany to the United States. At least sixty German companies intend to settle in Oklahoma alone. The Germans are rapidly deindustrializing to the applause of the American elites. Undermining the Nord Streams will give this vector even more impetus.

Thirdly, the desire to provoke Russia into a further escalation of the conflict cannot be dismissed. Hotheads like Liz Truss are intent on defeating the Kremlin in a near-nuclear war. Can this sabotage be regarded as a direct provocation against Russia? The tension is definitely growing - here are the results of the referendum in the liberated territories, and partial mobilization. The Yankees decided to throw another puzzle - what will Russia do? Nothing will happen. Now the main composure and observation. And the winter with the broken Nord Streams turned out to be much closer for Europe than it was thought.
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  1. U-58
    U-58 28 September 2022 03: 55
    -15
    Actually, the possibility of sabotage on the gas pipeline was discussed not so long ago. Including in the media.
    So, during the period of aggravation of the international situation, the supervision of gas pipelines was not strengthened?
    What are we waiting for now?
    Sabotage on South Stream? Or will there be increased oversight?
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 28 September 2022 04: 12
      +53
      "Prilyad" for 1224 km on two strings in foreign waters?
      1. Machito
        Machito 28 September 2022 08: 21
        +24
        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
        "Prilyad" for 1224 km on two strings in foreign waters?

        What the hell is a lookout? It's time for the GOOGI to send their fish to strike back: blow up the gas pipelines running from Norway to Europe. Blow up the Ukrainian GTS, shift the responsibility to Ukrovermacht. And what is the state of the turbines on the Turkish Stream? Isn't it time to do it? Western fascists don't stop raising the stakes. How much Khrushch is missing with his shoes in the UN and the Tsar Bomba. If only some charismatic inadequate was appointed Minister of Defense, from which the West's knees will tremble.
        Our concerns are the problems of our concerns.
        1. Hitriy Zhuk
          Hitriy Zhuk 28 September 2022 08: 52
          +22
          Quote: Bearded
          How is Khrushchev missing?

          I remind you that the end of the USSR is his undertaking.
          Further, to the best of their ability, others supported, but he launched it.
          1. skeptic
            skeptic 28 September 2022 12: 47
            +5
            Well, no one talked about "Khrushchev-president". It's a pity Zhirinovsky died. It would be in the UN. Already he smashed everything with barrel shoes, and he slandered with them.
            1. Div Divich
              Div Divich 29 September 2022 17: 23
              0
              So he has a successor Slutsky. Maybe he can give a rustle to the UN.
              1. skeptic
                skeptic 29 September 2022 20: 25
                +1
                Quote: Divy Divych
                So he has a successor Slutsky.

                Amorphous careerists, a dime a dozen. Such as Zhirinovsky (for all his leaps) - a few.
              2. Turtle
                Turtle 29 September 2022 20: 53
                -2
                Ramzan Akhmadovich can be seconded once, don! He will bottle these hunchbacked shaitans.
                1. Div Divich
                  Div Divich 2 October 2022 10: 32
                  0
                  And what is the point of him going there, there are no leaders of his level present there. Yes, and special services from different countries roam - snipers will be placed on the roofs to assassinate if they go.
                  There is no reason for him to be there.
              3. nordscout
                nordscout 3 October 2022 13: 21
                -1
                Slutsky is not a "skull" .... Analysts like Zhirinovsky are born once in a hundred years ... They did not underestimate Zhirinovsky, or maybe they were simply afraid to invite him "to power" ... "In power" one needs accommodating , "politically courteous - loyal", predictable and with a slightly tarnished reputation to keep on a "short leash" ... And without these "qualities" "in power" one can "break such firewood" that the "popular wave of trust" can endure and to Olympus itself, and this, somehow, is not included in the plans for "personnel rotation" in power structures ....
                1. Div Divich
                  Div Divich 4 October 2022 10: 00
                  0
                  In Russia, besides Zhirinovsky, there are many other people who know how to analyze facts, they just had less PR in the federal media. Just because you don't know about them doesn't mean they don't exist.
                  1. nordscout
                    nordscout 4 October 2022 17: 02
                    0
                    Fortunately, I know .... And Zhirinovsky was one of the brightest figures on this list ... Something like that ...
                    1. nordscout
                      nordscout 4 October 2022 17: 07
                      0
                      The word "PR" is complicated... If there were the brightest "figures", then they prefer "shadow" more than "public sun", and even "shadow". in views, it is safer, and sometimes even "more profitable" than "public outcry" ...
                      1. Div Divich
                        Div Divich 5 October 2022 12: 18
                        0
                        It is safer to be in the shadows, I agree with this, so many smart people do not climb into power.
        2. AVESSALOM
          AVESSALOM 28 September 2022 13: 00
          +3
          Alas, now muddy schemes are in fashion in the Kremlin ...
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 28 September 2022 13: 06
          -1
          Quote: Bearded
          How much Khrushch is missing with his shoes in the UN and the Tsar Bomba.

          do you need another XNUMXth congress?!
          1. Per se.
            Per se. 28 September 2022 16: 29
            +3
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            another XNUMXth congress?!

            If for EP, then why not. A renegade, he is a renegade anywhere, betraying once and lying once.
          2. nordscout
            nordscout 4 October 2022 17: 11
            0
            Russia, now, does not need the XX Congress, but a predictable, consistent, in all respects, power, with tripled political will and "iron eggs" ....
        4. Mahmoud
          Mahmoud 28 September 2022 13: 38
          +1
          Don't mention GOOGIE in the fuss, well, fuck them. If they connect, they will investigate this ... It was, they served, we know.
        5. Gofman
          Gofman 28 September 2022 14: 31
          +5
          Now it suddenly turns out that the Losharik deep-sea submersible, which frightened the entire West with the fact that it could destroy submarine communication cables and pipelines, is also not yet ready for practical use, yet in the form of a mock-up or prototype ...
          1. nordscout
            nordscout 3 October 2022 13: 34
            -1
            Are you sure that he is not ready? ... Was he the only one in the entire RF Armed Forces? I very much doubt its "uniqueness" and uniqueness ..... The West would "twitch" and get excited if "Losharik" was alone, like a "finger" in the ocean depths ... As they say: "It's not evening yet, Herr "Goffman"....."
        6. Plate
          Plate 28 September 2022 17: 39
          +1
          Quote: Bearded
          If only some charismatic inadequate was appointed Minister of Defense, from which the West's knees will tremble.

          Yes, there is an Iron Dimon. Only it is necessary for him not only to give Twitter and Contact in his hands, but also to give out a tribune, and also to shine it a couple of times along with the military.
      2. Glory1974
        Glory1974 28 September 2022 10: 56
        -3
        "Prilyad" for 1224 km on two strings in foreign waters?

        When construction began, they talked about building a squadron of ships to control and protect the gas pipeline. But apparently then they decided to save money, or they simply stole money for ships. Here is the result.
        If about 20 guards cruised along the pipe, no one would sneak up unnoticed.
        We have a concept of fighting terrorism, and the army is sharpened for this. And it turns out that any terrorist can swim up to the pipe on a boat and drop a bomb from above, and no one will see. This is anti-terrorist security.
        1. BIABIA
          BIABIA 28 September 2022 14: 20
          +8
          This is, like, the territorial waters of Denmark. Who will let Russian ships go there ...
          1. Glory1974
            Glory1974 28 September 2022 15: 20
            +2
            You can also observe from a distance without entering the territorial waters.
            1. Plate
              Plate 28 September 2022 17: 41
              +2
              It was understood that Europe needed this gas pipeline no less than Russia. Yes, and the distribution of the block of shares speaks directly about this. The gas pipeline belongs to everyone, but should Russia protect it?
              1. Glory1974
                Glory1974 29 September 2022 09: 10
                0
                The gas pipeline belongs to everyone, but should Russia protect it?

                The nuances of who should guard had to be decided. Maybe some kind of private security company or PMC. But in fact, they decided not to guard at all. Therefore, the result is appropriate.
                1. Plate
                  Plate 29 September 2022 09: 34
                  0
                  So from whom to protect something? Terrorists, pirates and others, from whom it would be necessary to protect, are not found there. Who in their right mind could have imagined that someone would decide to blow up gas pipelines?
                  1. Glory1974
                    Glory1974 30 September 2022 09: 15
                    0
                    from whom to protect something?

                    Gas pipelines in the Caucasus were blown up? They blew it up.
                    South Stream tried to blow up? Tried.
                    Are there terrorist attacks in the country and the world? Happen.
                    Will land gas pipelines and oil pipelines be monitored and guarded? Yes, they are watching and guarding.
                    And why no one deals with offshore gas pipelines?
                    I understand that at depths of 100-200 meters it is difficult to do some kind of dirty trick. But where the gas pipeline lies at a depth of 20-50 meters, where any diver can simply swim and try to do harm, you definitely need to watch it.
                    And most likely both the Danes and the Swedes observed it. It is impossible not to notice how someone is rubbing near the gas pipeline. If a private yacht had been there for several days, they would definitely have reacted. And when the fleet of a superpower conducts exercises there, no one rushed. And we have nothing to observe, and we have no documentary evidence, because we do not control this area by technical means, we show only other people's records.
                    1. Plate
                      Plate 30 September 2022 10: 43
                      0
                      Quote: glory1974
                      Are there terrorist attacks in the country and the world? Happen.

                      But not in Europe :)
                      Europe has long been assumed to be a uniquely safe and well-fed place, from where everyone dances, I suppose. Why spend money on security if you are in Europe? It's so safe there.
                      1. Glory1974
                        Glory1974 30 September 2022 10: 56
                        0
                        Europe has long been envisioned as a uniquely safe and well-fed place.

                        shooting of Charlie Hebdo, trucks crushing crowds in France and Germany, executions of people, etc. Not to mention skirmishes with migrants.
                        In general, I do not agree that everything is full and calm.
                        In addition, there are rules fixed by law, who, whom and how should be protected. Moreover, private security companies are not allowed to protect strategic facilities.
                        In general, there are many questions. I think that Western partners, as usual, did not keep their promises and deceived our effective managers.
                  2. nordscout
                    nordscout 5 October 2022 13: 54
                    0
                    This is called "indifference" at the state level ... There is simply no one to think about organizing the protection of the gas pipeline or education did not allow or "put in your pocket" from this "venture" - a minuscule for which you did not want to "dirty" ... So Russia has , what it currently has. Lies, postscripts, theft - nepotism, indifference - have become our "national sports" ...
                    1. Plate
                      Plate 5 October 2022 15: 37
                      0
                      Europe needed the gas pipeline no less than Russia. In Europe, it turns out, too, "lies, postscripts, theft, nepotism, indifference", since they did not organize anything like that?
                      1. nordscout
                        nordscout 5 October 2022 21: 09
                        0
                        If Europe needed a gas pipeline, it would have worked to its fullest for a long time, no matter what ... Our "everything" (mentality, education, de-ideologization, mass "indifference") is a "cast" from European society to the "standards", which, with kicks, were "driven" by Russia for the last 30 years, and we didn’t really resist the "chasers", buried in a PC, TV, "our own" world "under a hamburger with Cola" ..... And about theft - nepotism - "one to one", whatever is there, then we have .... We need to more carefully "digest" the information "from behind the hillock" and "turn on the head more often", loading our lazy brain with information analysis ... Here something like this...
          2. Dedok
            Dedok 28 September 2022 15: 32
            0
            Quote: BIABIA
            This is, like, the territorial waters of Denmark.

            and SP2 goes by tervods?
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 1 October 2022 20: 59
              0
              Well, there is the island of Bornholm, which belongs to Denmark, nearby ...
    2. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 28 September 2022 04: 33
      +16
      Quote: U-58
      Or will there be increased oversight?
      I would like to hear how you imagine it?
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 28 September 2022 05: 09
        +15
        Considering the attack on the Nord Stream lines as a full-fledged attack on Russian infrastructure should be done with a high degree of conventionality.

        Indeed, what kind of attack is there, not what kind of Russian infrastructure?
        Armed Ukraine and inspired her that her army - the second in Europe, probably the Martians. They also sank the Moskva. Their compatriots from Jupiter are supplying modern weapons to Ukraine and dragging out armed confrontation forever...
        And who are the “white and fluffy” ones, instead of taking care of current affairs in the country, executions in schools and military registration and enlistment offices, they were worried about mercantile interests - how will Gazprom now earn euros (rubles) ... Why don’t they take care the supply of Russian goods to the main organizers: the US and Britain?
        And the question of retaliatory measures is not worth it ... Have you taken care of who will receive what benefit there? What kind of Poland will take the place of Germany?
        *****
        To tell whose "co-conspiracy" led to such consequences, or did everyone guess?
        What is a similar fairy tale situation:
        1. Paul Siebert
          Paul Siebert 28 September 2022 09: 40
          +8
          And psheks don’t fire anymore ...
          Holiday at Sikorsky! angry
      2. U-58
        U-58 28 September 2022 06: 59
        -3
        Eh... I'm embarrassed to ask: do I need to present all this or to interested organizations and [special] services?
        I can predict anything for myself. Kina American seen enough.
        And on a serious issue, there are quite serious people. "They should be entrusted with the creation of our comedies" ©
      3. stankow
        stankow 28 September 2022 10: 33
        -2
        What other tasks does the fleet have in general?
    3. tTshka
      tTshka 28 September 2022 05: 10
      +9
      + and I'm interested to know how it is possible to control such a section of the smooth surface from sabotage, and the bottom of the sea ... and even not in their territories. waters)))
      1. stankow
        stankow 28 September 2022 10: 35
        +4
        Sabotage occurred outside the territory. waters. Zkonom. the zone is not hot.
        1. tTshka
          tTshka 28 September 2022 12: 48
          0
          What does this have to do with my comment? I wrote something about where it happened?!
          1. stankow
            stankow 28 September 2022 14: 28
            +3
            Sorry. I replied to a comment BiaBia
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 28 September 2022 14: 50
          +5
          Quote: stankow
          territorial waters of Denmark
          In your opinion, why should Russia spend money on protecting an idle gas pipeline? Wait for the Germans to graciously allow us to launch it? Pretty, they will repair it themselves with a guarantee for 100 years. Can't they themselves? Let them be interested in something.
          1. Turtle
            Turtle 29 September 2022 20: 59
            +1
            Logically. The case is out of warranty. It is necessary to shut off the valve through the dill, let them think faster.
    4. Jackson
      Jackson 28 September 2022 05: 54
      +14
      Lookout? Is this how you imagine? I can only imagine a lineman-diver with a fighting dolphin
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 28 September 2022 06: 13
        +9
        Lookout? Is this how you imagine? I can only imagine a lineman-diver with a fighting dolphin

        Breeding fighting mermaids is also an option.
        1. Knizhnik
          Knizhnik 28 September 2022 06: 55
          +6
          +1 Why not? Young mermaids with sailors are twisting, but what about the old ones? Dial watchmen for every 2-3 km
          1. parathyron
            parathyron 28 September 2022 11: 37
            +4
            No one can do it better than old Poseidon! And it’s better to immediately go to decision-making centers, because what’s the point in fighting the consequences while the cause is spoiling?
          2. sniperino
            sniperino 28 September 2022 14: 55
            0
            Quote: Knizhnik
            Dial watchmen for every 2-3 km
            For each seam - a watchman so that the mouse does not slip through.
      2. stankow
        stankow 28 September 2022 10: 37
        +1
        A saboteur not from the United States swooped with flippers. It is transported and lowered by ship. Mini-submarines are also visible on the GAS.
    5. carpenter
      carpenter 28 September 2022 05: 55
      +4
      Quote: U-58
      What are we waiting for now?
      Sabotage on South Stream? Or will there be increased oversight?

      How do you imagine this. And the DRG of the Ukronazis was captured, which was supposed to carry out sabotage on the Turkish Stream.
      1. U-58
        U-58 28 September 2022 07: 03
        -4
        And sho? Let everything go by itself? Or to entrust everything to Western sworn partners for self-righteousness?
    6. smart ass
      smart ass 28 September 2022 06: 42
      +5
      Pandemic, own, mobilization, explosion of gas pipelines, now I have seen everything in my life?
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 28 September 2022 09: 45
        +8
        No, not all, there is still a non-illusory opportunity to hotly celebrate the day of the mushroom picker, based on the rehashing of Cheburashka's song (there is also about a nuclear landmine and about chloropicrin / cyan).
      2. Paul Siebert
        Paul Siebert 28 September 2022 09: 46
        +4
        Quote: Clever man
        Pandemic, own, mobilization, explosion of gas pipelines, now I have seen everything in my life?

        Vasily, all the fun is just beginning!

        We are waiting for new statements from Grandfather fart ...
      3. Machito
        Machito 28 September 2022 16: 52
        0
        Quote: Clever man
        Pandemic, own, mobilization, explosion of gas pipelines, now I have seen everything in my life?

        But what about the Third World War? feel
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 1 October 2022 21: 07
          0
          Quote: Bearded
          Quote: Clever man
          Pandemic, own, mobilization, explosion of gas pipelines, now I have seen everything in my life?

          But what about the Third World War? feel

          while it is being postponed ... now ours will put pressure on all fronts - it is quite possible or as an option - the first and second categories will be massively called up for training camps ...
      4. dimitresky
        dimitresky 28 September 2022 22: 56
        +2
        No need to be sad, the whole tin is ahead ...
    7. TEX-50
      TEX-50 28 September 2022 08: 33
      0
      For such an eye you need Cthulhu. Nothing without him.
    8. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 28 September 2022 13: 05
      +1
      and who will let you into their waters to look after ?!
    9. Region-25.rus
      Region-25.rus 29 September 2022 05: 18
      0
      was the supervision of the gas pipelines not strengthened?
      to place a sentry with a machine gun for every 30 meters of the pipeline? Dolphin patrols? Naval patrols? Aviation? And .. all this in foreign territories. waters? recourse good
  2. Mixweb
    Mixweb 28 September 2022 03: 57
    +28
    Request the admission of our specialists to the places of sabotage. In case of refusal on their part, it is stupid to break contracts for the supply of gas to ALL European countries. Would you say there are penalties? And hit on them. They've already taken a ton of our money already.
    1. skeptick2
      skeptick2 28 September 2022 11: 24
      0
      Quote: Mixweb
      They've already taken a ton of our money already.

      Those. do you propose to give the last ones?
      Do you know how much money we receive for the sale of hydrocarbons? How much does the SVO cost? About? Or are we flooding not only the EU, but the rest of the world with other exports?
      Will India and China buy? That's how they buy. And their needs are not unlimited.
      1. nerovnayadoroga
        nerovnayadoroga 28 September 2022 23: 48
        0
        Excuse me, but what is the money for hydrocarbons for a country that is laid on all sides, for example, in 1941, to fight or everything is for sale, then there were no sanctions, money and prices on the domestic market are completely different, this is maintaining the domestic market, not to be confused with speculation and liability under the uk for it.
      2. Robert Suvorov
        Robert Suvorov 29 September 2022 22: 07
        0
        We don't need them. We need to start developing ourselves. It's time to deal tough with bureaucrats and put normal people in power and develop. China as an example. We have everything for this and our people are not stupid. The will of the chief is needed. Otherwise, we will clean the boots for the Anglo-Saxons.
    2. parathyron
      parathyron 28 September 2022 11: 41
      -1
      Can't we swim and dive in international waters?
    3. arkadiyssk
      arkadiyssk 28 September 2022 11: 52
      0
      And who can forbid to inspect the pipeline in places of accidents? This is not a territory of water, but an economic zone. Would you like, the hydrographic vessel was already sailing there. Your comment is more like a dispersal of hysteria in the media.
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 28 September 2022 03: 57
    +14
    However, the risks for Europe are enormous
    This sabotage with far-reaching consequences!
    1. tTshka
      tTshka 28 September 2022 05: 13
      +13
      Not only with "far-reaching consequences" ... first of all, with far-reaching plans!
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 28 September 2022 08: 26
      -3
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      This sabotage with far-reaching consequences!

      Thanks to those who did this, otherwise "our" 5th point (Muller) would never refuse to supply our enemies with our resources.
      1. Plate
        Plate 28 September 2022 17: 47
        +2
        Nothing went through these unfortunate gas pipelines anyway. The author correctly wrote in the article that, as a result, the pumping of gas from Russia to Europe ended up in the hands of Poland and Ukraine.
  4. shinobi
    shinobi 28 September 2022 04: 15
    +20
    This event does not give Kiev anything. From the word at all. Who prevents us from closing the screw on the transit pipe? .The task is to finish off the EU. "Thermal" riots are already a reality of the near future. EU industry, a corpse. Beneficiary? Well, you understand ...
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 28 September 2022 04: 42
      +12
      Quote: shinobi
      Beneficiary? Well, you understand ...

      So, not so long ago, I thought that it’s not good to drive gas to Europe. But now I'm not sure about it. Germany will die without gas, and Poland will come to the fore in the form of no longer a mongrel, but quite a bulldog of the USA and England. And a bulldog with a whistling flask.
      By the way, I’m not hinting at anything, but gas carriers are even more vulnerable to natural fires and even explosions.
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 28 September 2022 05: 19
        +4
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        and Poland will come to the fore

        Quite reasonable! Moreover, Poland has always been tied to England and the obligatory consent of the Americans for this they do not need.
        1. GIS
          GIS 28 September 2022 13: 43
          +1
          that is why, first of all, it is necessary to "flush" the island into the ocean, and then the pshkov behind them into the tighter Baltic. can bulldozers
      2. Al manah
        Al manah 28 September 2022 06: 34
        +1
        To give the order to sink gas carriers, you need steel Faberge. Which our bosses somehow do not observe.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 28 September 2022 07: 28
          0
          Quote: Al Manah
          To give the order to sink gas carriers, you need steel Faberge.
          Why drown? Just don't stop freedom-loving and democratic American liquefied gas from choosing freedom! Right on the port!
        2. YanniKounnar
          YanniKounnar 28 September 2022 10: 38
          +2
          Beaucoup de méthaniers mais peu de terminaux ...tirez en les conclusions

          Many methane carriers, but few terminals ... draw conclusions
        3. Turtle
          Turtle 29 September 2022 21: 14
          0
          Americans will swallow, though they will grimace. Leave unanswered - it will be worse for us in the first place. What difference does it make who exactly will tear off their flabby Faberge if they themselves miss the chance to shake up the enemy's Faberge with a kick of their boot? Pay attention to what hysteria there is - the black -haired lesbian explains the position of the grandfather for the internal consumer. They will stay in this state for no more than a week, then shake out everything that has accumulated in their pants, and continue their research on our "red lines"
      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 28 September 2022 07: 21
        +7
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        By the way, I’m not hinting at anything, but gas carriers are even more vulnerable to natural fires and even explosions.

        Especially during unloading at terminals in Polish ports.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 28 September 2022 07: 25
          +3
          Quote: Polite Elk
          Especially during unloading at terminals in Polish ports.

          I hope you are not hinting at anything either? wink
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 28 September 2022 08: 07
            +12
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            I hope you are not hinting at anything either?

            God forbid!!! It's just that recently, with safety precautions during loading and unloading and transport and storage operations, it has become not comme il faut. Either they smoke in the wrong places, or they won’t remove the static charge, or they let an unidentified drone pass, or even sea mines are poorly tied to anchors. In Beirut, saltpeter was overheated in the sun.
            And he is such an LNG, he will not miss his chance.
          2. Turtle
            Turtle 29 September 2022 21: 18
            +3
            I am a cheerful worker
            I am a simple Beirut welder!
            I work in a warehouse
            With confiscated saltpeter.
            I cook a heavy channel
            To the metal gates -
            The electrode sparks fervently,
            Sparks are pouring into the villages ...
        2. parathyron
          parathyron 28 September 2022 11: 50
          +1
          In the future, the struggle for the western regions of the outskirts, in which Poland will take an active part. And Putin warned that the intervention of any country in the NWO would open a new and hitherto unseen page in its history. Here is a great legitimate opportunity to correct democratic gas flows. In general, Europe has got!
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 29 September 2022 11: 19
            0
            Quote: parathyron
            In general, Europe has got!

            The main thing is that we do not miss.
      4. Machito
        Machito 28 September 2022 16: 55
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Quote: shinobi
        Beneficiary? Well, you understand ...

        So, not so long ago, I thought that it’s not good to drive gas to Europe. But now I'm not sure about it. Germany will die without gas, and Poland will come to the fore in the form of no longer a mongrel, but quite a bulldog of the USA and England. And a bulldog with a whistling flask.
        By the way, I’m not hinting at anything, but gas carriers are even more vulnerable to natural fires and even explosions.

        American gas carriers are highly explosive. They can explode by themselves no worse than an air conditioner. am
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 28 September 2022 04: 16
    +17
    what will Russia do? Nothing will happen. Now the main thing is composure and observation

    Liquefied gas will be supplied at market prices to Europe... and the pipeline will go to Asia.
    Europe is now in a complete ass ... the Turks and Americans are rubbing their hands happily ... the Germans will be forced to capitulate to them.
    Sweden is surprising, not noticing American saboteurs in its waters ... before that, in every herring, they imagined Russian submarines, and then such diarrhea.
    Our country loses little in this situation... the gas is still ours and we have a reason to accuse the Anglo-Saxons and Poles of terrorism in the UN... we must press this pedal all the way... let it whistle in the ears of Gutteres from morning to evening .
    Referendums in the liberated regions of Ukraine gave rise to an explosive wave around the world ... cool ... the Americans decided on extreme means of war against us and the whole world.
    1. Administrator
      Administrator 28 September 2022 05: 33
      +12
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Surprised by Sweden, which did not notice American saboteurs in its waters

      Surprise people who are surprised by something else)
      Even people who are ignorant of politics already know that today's Europe is a puppet theater, whose owner Karabas-Barabas is far beyond the ocean. Each puppet country knows its role in this performance. In Europe, there are no strong and independent countries for a long time, there are no strong and independent leaders, all will, economy and politics are subordinated to the United States. From time to time, such leaders appear, but under pressure from the United States through their neighbors in Europe, they quickly realize that "well, that's enough, you've earned your worth, you can take a break.")
      Already something, and Karabas has more than enough levers of pressure on the recalcitrant. Especially for such small and weak (but proud)) Scandinavian countries.
      Therefore, a narrow circle of people in European countries absolutely knows everything for sure, and even more - they do everything that the owner says, even to the detriment of their country. And to close your eyes to the "trifle" - just spit.
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 28 September 2022 10: 10
      -1
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      what will Russia do? Nothing will happen. Now the main thing is composure and observation

      Liquefied gas will be supplied at market prices to Europe... and the pipeline will go to Asia.
      Europe is now in a complete ass ... the Turks and Americans are rubbing their hands happily ... the Germans will be forced to capitulate to them.
      Sweden is surprising, not noticing American saboteurs in its waters ... before that, in every herring, they imagined Russian submarines, and then such diarrhea.
      Our country loses little in this situation... the gas is still ours and we have a reason to accuse the Anglo-Saxons and Poles of terrorism in the UN... we must press this pedal all the way... let it whistle in the ears of Gutteres from morning to evening .
      Referendums in the liberated regions of Ukraine gave rise to an explosive wave around the world ... cool ... the Americans decided on extreme means of war against us and the whole world.

      Gas goes to Asia, that is, to China, at a fixed price. There is no talk of any 2000 euros. 300 bucks is a land. To Turkey, by the way, too, it is not a member of the EU and has not signed European gas protocols.
      1. stankow
        stankow 28 September 2022 10: 41
        +1
        The pipe to the EU is also not $ 2000 ....
    3. RGB
      RGB 28 September 2022 12: 40
      +1
      What UN?! Who to blame?! What are you talking about?))) The UN as an organization has become obsolete.
    4. Beregovic_1
      Beregovic_1 28 September 2022 14: 05
      +2
      No, the Germans will not surrender, the Germans, along with other European protesters, will be sent to fight with us. The main thing is to collect the dissatisfied crowd, and to direct it is a matter of technology. And do not rely on the mind of Europeans. You have been observing the manipulations of the mass consciousness of Europe for 7 months already. There is nothing good about what happened. Instead of puffy slogans in the comments, put on armor (if enough) and with a machine gun in the second wave of mobilization. We were raped, like Europe. Now we are being pushed head-on and we should not rejoice.
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 28 September 2022 15: 35
        +1
        Quote: Beregovyhok_1
        You have been observing the manipulations of the mass consciousness of Europe for 7 months already.
        Who else, but I watched them back in the early 90s. Softly, not directly, but showing only the negative about the people, drunk and impoverished, about Zhirinovsky, eager to gouge them with an atomic bomb, and presenting the figures of enterprising oligarchs in a neutral-positive manner. What he publicly announced to them. After that, I was struck out of the grant programs, but it is unlikely that anything has changed for the better. Except perhaps under Schröder in Germany, although I don't think the chancellor has much influence on the media.
    5. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 28 September 2022 22: 14
      0
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      the gas is still ours and we have a reason to accuse the Anglo-Saxons and Poles of terrorism in the UN ...

      As stated in the article, "The police even gave this event a name - "gross sabotage"".
      "Sabotage" is not fulfilling your contracts. That is, the culprit in these events has already been identified - this is Russia.
  6. yuriy55
    yuriy55 28 September 2022 04: 26
    +18
    And the sabotage was prudently committed in European waters, so that Russian repairmen could not under any circumstances get to the point of explosion. Neither for repair, nor for studying the circumstances of what happened.

    It does not fit with some mythical penalties (firstly). I don't think there are any options for such cases.
    *****
    The Ukrainian GTS must be closed. Not a single cubic meter of gas to Ukraine. Died. so died.
    The results of the investigation can be awaited. and then check how the condition of the underwater tunnel across the English Channel is (for example) ... Or the condition of the transatlantic cables from the USA to Europe ...
    In any case, Russia should stop cooperating with the US and Smelly Britain.
    1. Machito
      Machito 28 September 2022 16: 59
      +1
      Quote: yuriy55
      And the sabotage was prudently committed in European waters, so that Russian repairmen could not under any circumstances get to the point of explosion. Neither for repair, nor for studying the circumstances of what happened.

      It does not fit with some mythical penalties (firstly). I don't think there are any options for such cases.
      *****
      The Ukrainian GTS must be closed. Not a single cubic meter of gas to Ukraine. Died. so died.
      The results of the investigation can be awaited. and then check how the condition of the underwater tunnel across the English Channel is (for example) ... Or the condition of the transatlantic cables from the USA to Europe ...
      In any case, Russia should stop cooperating with the US and Smelly Britain.

      The Channel Tunnel could explode at any moment. am I can imagine what kind of fountains will be at its exits. fellow
  7. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 28 September 2022 04: 27
    +22
    "Sabotage on the Nord Stream" -

    ***
    And without turning
           heads of heads
    and feelings
         no
              without knowing
    blew up
       "North Stream"
             in the Danish zone
    near by
         "neutral"
             Swedes ...
    ***
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 28 September 2022 07: 30
      +9
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      ***
      And without turning
             heads of heads
      and feelings
           no
                without knowing
      blew up
         "North Stream"
               in the Danish zone
      near by
           "neutral"
               Swedes ...
      ***

      And here,
      like a razor slash
      according to the testicles, Mr.
      This is the iron hand of Gazprom
      closed
      transit through Ukraine
      1. mongolian9999
        mongolian9999 28 September 2022 07: 52
        +3
        From the path of legality is impossible
        Neither right nor left
        Who is leading the fight now?
        King or queen?
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 28 September 2022 08: 28
          +10
          Quote: mongol9999
          Who is leading the fight now?
          King or queen?

          Unpredictable monarchs way
          Half the world will follow Charles III
          But it's worth a razor wave once
          And he is already Elizabeth
        2. YanniKounnar
          YanniKounnar 28 September 2022 10: 44
          +5
          Mais il peut être dit:
          devant les attentats qui ont détruit NS 1 et NS 2 par précaution, afin d'éviter une catastrophe le gazoduc traversant l'ukraine va être purger en attendant les résultats d'une enquête sur les NS1 et NS2 ...

          But you can also say this:
          in connection with the terrorist attacks that destroyed NS 1 and NS 2, as a precautionary measure to avoid a catastrophe, the gas pipeline passing through Ukraine will be purged pending the results of the investigation on NS1 and NS2 ...
      2. Galleon
        Galleon 28 September 2022 07: 59
        +5
        Well, Elk...!! laughing Hey Elk!! laughing good drinks Moose Mayakovsky!
  8. realist
    realist 28 September 2022 05: 03
    +1
    The Americans had the opportunity to carry out sabotage, their nuclear submarines are equipped with special compartments for underwater vehicles and locks for divers to exit, Russia does not have the technical ability to carry out such sabotage.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 28 September 2022 05: 29
      +14
      In Britain, two divers were awarded for especially dangerous assignments abroad ... in addition, the Americans gave the British equipment for underwater work at great depths.
      So the two brothers of the acrobat burned unambiguously ... the investigation will show, maybe one of them put the explosives on the pipe, and who pressed the button.
      The Anglo-Saxons now will not be able to avert suspicions of committing terrorist attacks like September 11 in the USA ... the crooks are crazy.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 28 September 2022 10: 47
        +2
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        In Britain, two divers were awarded for especially dangerous assignments abroad ... in addition, the Americans gave the British equipment for underwater work at great depths.
        So the two brothers of the acrobat burned unambiguously ... the investigation will show, maybe one of them put the explosives on the pipe, and who pressed the button.
        The Anglo-Saxons now will not be able to avert suspicions of committing terrorist attacks like September 11 in the USA ... the crooks are crazy.

        They say that there, in the area where the pipes were blown up, NATO drones and helicopters from the UDC "Kearsarge" of the US Navy, which has been in the Baltic since August, were hanging out just the other day. Coincidence? I don't think. Here is an interesting picture from Kassada
      2. RGB
        RGB 28 September 2022 12: 45
        +1
        What kind of investigation?!))) What will show? I just laugh at your naivete!
    2. What a
      What a 28 September 2022 07: 46
      +2
      The Poles receive the greatest benefit, Russian gas through the pipeline, LNG was built and launched, the pipeline from Norway was launched and they themselves wrote more than once that all their gas storage facilities were 100% full.
      1. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
        Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 28 September 2022 07: 54
        +1
        What Russian gas??? We will have Yamal under repair of turbines until the next hot summer. So let them skin themselves and gas into the pipe ...
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 28 September 2022 10: 58
          +1
          Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
          What Russian gas??? We will have Yamal under repair of turbines until the next hot summer. So let them skin themselves and gas into the pipe ...

          Alas, we do not have turbines in Yamal - Yamal LNG and liquefied gas can be bought by anyone through the same exchanges through a "gasket company" simply by outbid. The same mattresses will outbid our LNG and, having greatly reduced the delivery shoulder, they will sell it to the Poles, but already as their American one. Faith in "democracy" does not allow the Poles to buy from us directly, the hand of which firmly holds them by the Adam's apple. The pipe, in terms of the end user, is easier to control than LNG. hi
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 September 2022 08: 42
      +5
      Quote: realist
      The Americans had the opportunity to carry out sabotage, their nuclear submarines are equipped with special compartments for underwater vehicles and locks for divers to exit

      Where did you see the American nuclear submarine in the Baltic. But the states tested underwater drones near Bornholm in June this year.
      And we all saw such "drones" a few days ago thrown off the coast of Sevastopol. Is this a coincidence, or have cheburashkas wound up?
      1. realist
        realist 28 September 2022 09: 06
        +1
        A drone is also a submarine, only without a crew, it’s to blame, I didn’t look at the depth in the pipe area
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 September 2022 09: 07
          +1
          Quote: realist
          A drone is also a submarine, only without a crew, it’s to blame, I didn’t look at the depth in the pipe area

          50 - 70 meters.
          1. realist
            realist 28 September 2022 09: 11
            -1
            Of course, not every submarine will be able to work underwater at such a depth.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 28 September 2022 09: 16
              +3
              Quote: realist
              Of course, not every submarine will be able to work underwater at such a depth.

              It’s hard not to notice a submarine, and a drone can be launched from a landing ship (by the way, there was such a US ship), and the exercises were held there in early September. The ears stick out.
              1. realist
                realist 28 September 2022 10: 47
                0
                I agree, this is the work of saboteurs, it remains to understand which
                1. Machito
                  Machito 28 September 2022 17: 07
                  0
                  Quote: realist
                  I agree, this is the work of saboteurs, it remains to understand which

                  Yeah, Putin put the bomb in amphoras, dived with scuba gear and taped it to the pipes with tape. fool The United States, Great Britain, Poland are primarily to blame for the terrorist attack on Russian gas pipelines, and Denmark and Sweden are secondarily to blame. You don't even have to be Wang here. This is a no-brainer. Russian hedgehog. It is not clear to Europeans, because they are stupid fascists.
                  1. realist
                    realist 28 September 2022 17: 29
                    0
                    Yes, I didn’t even think about Putin, he seems to be in sight all the time
          2. El Barto
            El Barto 28 September 2022 09: 45
            +4
            Why produce versions ahead of time? Moreover, about submarines, deep-sea vehicles and so on?
            Such sabotage can simply be done with the help of conventional depth charges. Which everyone has. And no super-tech is needed. Any of the fleets and special services, and even abnormal "activists", green, pro-Ukrainian, Polish, Scandinavian, etc., can organize such a thing.
            Not a single government would openly do this, which means that the secret services under the guise of some kind of "non-governmental organizations" who do not like the fact that cows fart a lot, which causes global warming. Maybe they will even be caught and convicted ... for a year of probation
            1. realist
              realist 28 September 2022 10: 49
              -1
              A depth bomb will leave evidence at the site of the explosion, it will be possible to determine the type and who is armed, this is practically the signature of the artist, I admit that there are stupid people in the West, but not the same.
              1. YanniKounnar
                YanniKounnar 28 September 2022 11: 54
                0
                J'ai lu que le gazétait à 250 atm dans les gazoduc, donc au début le gaz est sorti à cette pression...
              2. El Barto
                El Barto 28 September 2022 11: 58
                +1
                Yes, what are you? What evidence? Peck this goodness in the world. Both Soviet and American. All these traces and remnants will not prove anything to anyone.
                Most likely they will find some next Rainbow Warrior and hang everything on them. They will say they threw several barrels of explosives onto the pipeline. And that's all.
                By the way, they can actually do this. The same Americans themselves do not need to do anything themselves, it is enough to give a signal to the half-crazy fighters for the rights of seals that "now it is possible." Profit
                1. mitroha
                  mitroha 28 September 2022 16: 41
                  0
                  Quote: El Barto
                  half-mad fighters for the rights of seals that "now it is possible." Profit

                  In general, it is logical, but this is unlikely. The damage now will be so strong to nature. It’s easier to give the go-ahead to the half-mad and repulsed by Russophobia Poles, or even do it yourself, and put the Poles forward. Nobody cares about them anyway
              3. Rustic
                Rustic 28 September 2022 23: 18
                0
                A depth charge will leave evidence at the site of the explosion, it will be possible to determine the type and who is armed
                And it turns out that she is Ukrainian. What's next?
    4. stankow
      stankow 28 September 2022 10: 44
      +2
      Divers and through the torpedo tubes easily exit.
    5. Adrey
      Adrey 28 September 2022 11: 08
      -1
      Quote: realist
      The Americans had the opportunity to carry out sabotage, their nuclear submarines are equipped with special compartments for underwater vehicles and locks for divers to exit, Russia does not have the technical ability to carry out such sabotage.

      Yes, what submarines and AUVs!? Any Uganda could carry out such a diversion.
      What you need is a boat with a good echo sounder for scanning the bottom topography and charges, even for 100 kg, like those that the Germans used to blow up caponiers on Eben-Emal, plus a simple fuse with a clockwork. Installation of charges using a boat winch. Even scuba divers are not particularly needed, although the depths are available to them.
      The Ukrainians could well do it.
      1. mitroha
        mitroha 28 September 2022 16: 52
        0
        Quote: Adrey
        Such diversion any Uganda

        And what is so modest. Blame the Samolian pirates right away. They are all nearby, within the reach of boats. And the Ukrainians are there, ukrorusals .....
        That is, England and the United States have underwater drones, underwater saboteurs, a US Navy ship was there recently, and UK itself is not far away, after all, Poland is close. But you will be here about Uganda and Ukraine .....
    6. bk316
      bk316 28 September 2022 14: 10
      0
      Russia does not have the technical ability to carry out such sabotage.

      Garbage write there a depth of several tens of meters. The pipeline route is known with an accuracy of 10 meters. If you want even more precisely, I can present you an underwater camera. And there, there are no competencies at all to drop explosives from a boat with a timer.
  9. Lis_Domino
    Lis_Domino 28 September 2022 05: 05
    0
    It is necessary to heat gas carriers with liquefied gas from the United States
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 28 September 2022 05: 31
      0
      Bad idea... gas could be reversed from Russia
      1. mongolian9999
        mongolian9999 28 September 2022 07: 55
        +2
        Not scary. We've already been paid for it. Well, the second. Our intelligence has already learned to smell the molecules of free gas from the total gas. ;-)
    2. KCA
      KCA 28 September 2022 05: 51
      +5
      The point here is that the United States has no gas at all, all gas belongs to private companies and they will drive it to where it is more expensive, while it is more expensive in Southeast Asia
  10. Revolver
    Revolver 28 September 2022 05: 06
    +2
    I do not undertake to blame anyone specifically, let's hope that the investigation will sort it out. But here it is necessary to start a criminal case, and clearly under the article "terrorism".
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 September 2022 08: 49
      0
      Quote: Nagan
      I do not undertake to blame anyone specifically, let's hope that the investigation will sort it out.

      Oh, I don’t believe it, the West will sabotage everything.
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 28 September 2022 12: 22
      0
      And it will be like a criminal case against Yatsenyuk.
      1. Machito
        Machito 28 September 2022 17: 10
        +1
        Quote: Kronos
        And it will be like a criminal case against Yatsenyuk.

        No need to distort the name of Yaytsenyukh. stop
  11. Popenko
    Popenko 28 September 2022 05: 16
    +13
    It is necessary to leave Europe and, in general, to change the economic policy. The Russian economy should have as a priority the goal of meeting the needs of the Russian people, and not the exchange of irreplaceable resources for candy wrappers.
  12. AUSSIA
    AUSSIA 28 September 2022 05: 47
    +7
    This attack on the pipeline smells of the UK. Underwater drones could accomplish without any effort.
  13. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 28 September 2022 05: 48
    +2
    Explosions were not carried out in territorial waters. So we have no problems approaching gas outlets, even accompanied by the BF. The joke is that we need to supply gas to them so that the pipelines do not flood. to flood it without turbines. To save it, it is necessary to supply gas, we say nothing. And then, for salvation, gas will go, the scandal will be universal. In SP 1, we can pump at a loss to ourselves. The BF and the controlling ships should already be at the points of undermining today. They must prove their innocence by force of arms, they don’t understand anything else. .Who was talking about unacceptable damage? The people have made their choice, we do not want to be whipping boys. This is the only way we will win.
    1. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
      Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 28 September 2022 07: 58
      +7
      There is no need to upload anything and save anywhere. Let the Europeans save their ass now. They now have a great opportunity and an urgent need to build a new SP-1 Two and SP-2 Three! Good luck and have a warm winter!!!
      1. huntsman650
        huntsman650 28 September 2022 08: 38
        -6
        They will survive this winter, the storages are full (((
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 28 September 2022 09: 10
          +1
          storage from the strength of only 20% of the required
          1. huntsman650
            huntsman650 28 September 2022 11: 16
            -2
            We'll wait and see, we'll live, we'll find out, but we'll survive, we'll take into account)
        2. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
          Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 28 September 2022 10: 35
          +3
          Primitive people also experienced harsh winters, but the Europeans forgot how to do it. And then, oddly enough, gas in the summer, too, as needed.
          The Germans, if they are not stupid and shniks, must understand that in this situation they were priced cheaper than a used condom! By the way, before that, the Gehennas of Europe boldly demanded trillions from them and today they intend to become a new gas hub instead of Germany ... in short, they have them in their eyes!
          Look ahead and eat popcorn!
          1. huntsman650
            huntsman650 28 September 2022 11: 18
            0
            Eating popcorn we will soon be all in the trenches.
            1. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
              Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 28 September 2022 11: 53
              +4
              Perhaps we will, but this does not contradict what I said.
              Instead of prospering and successfully coexisting, some will first freeze in apartments, and then in the trenches. Both will become possible because of the spinelessness of some and arrogance mixed with impunity, others!
              1. Machito
                Machito 28 September 2022 17: 14
                +2
                Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                Perhaps we will, but this does not contradict what I said.
                Instead of prospering and successfully coexisting, some will first freeze in apartments, and then in the trenches. Both will become possible because of the spinelessness of some and arrogance mixed with impunity, others!

                I don't like frost after service in Siberia. Maybe it's better to bang right away? am
                1. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                  Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 28 September 2022 21: 09
                  +2
                  I don’t want to, to be honest, but I don’t exclude MegaBabakh ......
          2. mitroha
            mitroha 28 September 2022 17: 11
            0
            Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
            Gehennas of Europe, boldly demanded trillions from them and today they intend to become a new gas hub

            Do not make Poland laugh, she is already funny ....
            What a hub, the Norwegians with grief in half generally drive gas to the EU, and then Poland sat down on the same pipeline that led to Germany. Do you think if at least Germany had enough of this gas, they would buy Russian gas. So a hub from Poland, with all the desire, will not work. And about LNG, too, no need ...... laughing
            1. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
              Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 28 September 2022 21: 13
              +2
              I completely agree with you, my general! Right now they will pump us through the pipe, and then the kirdyk will come to her. The cries of Europeans who do not get gas will be carried throughout Europe lol lol
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 September 2022 08: 25
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The joke is that in order not to flood the pipelines, we need to supply gas to them. SP 1 is not operational due to turbines, but it should be flooded without turbines.

      Simply put, Nord Stream 1 has ceased to exist, and it will take years and billions of euros to restore it.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 28 September 2022 09: 10
        +3
        if Germany needs it, then let it restore
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 September 2022 09: 18
          0
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          if Germany needs it, then let it restore

          It is doubtful, and who will allow. To do this, you need to have "iron eggs", and Scholz and his comrades have them, they are wooden.
          1. Machito
            Machito 28 September 2022 17: 16
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            if Germany needs it, then let it restore

            It is doubtful, and who will allow. To do this, you need to have "iron eggs", and Scholz and his comrades have them, they are wooden.

            Who told you that the Gruppenfuehrer has balls? Tolerast eggs are useless.
      2. DO
        DO 28 September 2022 17: 17
        0
        Nord Stream 1 has ceased to exist, and it will take years and billions of euros to restore it.

        Let me edit:
        Nord Stream 1 ceased to exist
        Point.
    3. krex pax
      krex pax 28 September 2022 10: 13
      +3
      Most likely, there is no need to pump gas, since the pressures of water and gas will soon become equal inside the pipeline. Water cannot fill it. It's like an airlock in a heating system.
      1. Puzoter
        Puzoter 28 September 2022 13: 18
        +3
        They blew up a shallow area, which means that everything that is deeper than 50 meters will be filled with water.
    4. Machito
      Machito 28 September 2022 17: 12
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Explosions were not carried out in territorial waters. So we have no problems approaching gas outlets, even accompanied by the BF. The joke is that we need to supply gas to them so that the pipelines do not flood. to flood it without turbines. To save it, it is necessary to supply gas, we say nothing. And then, for salvation, gas will go, the scandal will be universal. In SP 1, we can pump at a loss to ourselves. The BF and the controlling ships should already be at the points of undermining today. They must prove their innocence by force of arms, they don’t understand anything else. .Who was talking about unacceptable damage? The people have made their choice, we do not want to be whipping boys. This is the only way we will win.

      Can the hydrocarbon gas in the pipe be replaced with air so that the pipeline does not flood?
    5. sniperino
      sniperino 28 September 2022 20: 47
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      You must prove your innocence by force of arms, another
      they don’t understand. Concerns will no longer be rolled over, it’s already necessary to answer with a fist
      impudent NATO mug. Did someone talk about unacceptable damage?
      Who calculated the damage? Let's say both damaged gas pipelines cost 20 billion euros. SP-2 alone involves 670 companies from 25 countries. Gazprom's 5 European partner companies in SP-2 bore almost all the costs. What should be done with a fist in this case? Isn't it too early to wave a saber for someone's lost profits. It may be cheaper to flood gas pipelines, not waste gas, and better prepare for a direct war with NATO, without any proxy shmoxy.
      Are you sure that some international court today can justify the Russian Federation, provide them with the most compelling evidence? The life of Europeans is being made unbearable. I don’t know if this process should be accelerated, they are already doing a good job. Europe has been filled with migrants capable of fighting and, under fear of a lethal collapse, is confidently set on the old path of onslaught to the East. Do you want to prove something to the UN? Please, but without prejudice to the main political process that is unfolding today on other platforms, and, most importantly, without losing the combat capability of our Armed Forces before the general battle for a new world order. As long as there is a right of veto, we must use it without worrying about expensive evidence.
  14. Vladimirsky
    Vladimirsky 28 September 2022 06: 02
    +9
    "Under the current conditions, the Germans are obliged to buy up to 40 billion cubic meters of Russian gas annually until 2030. Now this condition is taking on a special flavor." - the author is unaware of the fact that since the end of August SP1 has been stopped, and in all likelihood for a long time. What are the conditions and obligations of the parties in this regard? In fact, the execution of the contract was stopped for technical reasons, and this is provided for in the contract as "force majeure (force majeure)". As for sabotage, its consequences are not very beneficial for Germany, the United States is very beneficial, and 50/50 for Russia (the ratio of political and economic interests).
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 28 September 2022 07: 45
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirsky
      the author is unaware of the fact that since the end of August SP1 has been stopped, and in all likelihood for a long time.

      And it is not clear why the author spoke about an ecological catastrophe and about losses of 2 billion ?!
  15. Ivan Pchelin
    Ivan Pchelin 28 September 2022 06: 18
    -3
    Dear Evgeny, if you don't speak Russian well, please give someone your texts for proofreading. It is clear that the urgency, but still.
  16. samarin1969
    samarin1969 28 September 2022 06: 28
    +1
    The authorities of the Russian Federation, in the near future, should give an answer to the results of the referenda. With this explosion, the Americans put pressure on the elite of the Russian Federation. It is difficult to say who will win in the quarrel between the "gas workers" and the "patriots". Previously, Gazprom's interests were sacred.
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 28 September 2022 16: 50
      +1
      They are not so sacred that the Kremlin would not recognize the referenda. Moscow's failure to recognize referendums automatically buries both the state fool and the government, and the supreme one too.
  17. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 28 September 2022 06: 31
    +2
    If Europe does not want gas, then so be it. The budget, based on the national currency, should not suffer. We have a lot of Western candy wrappers, but the problem is how to turn them into a useful business. Otherwise, this currency will again end up in the pockets of the West. There is only one way out - to strengthen your economy and the ruble. Dollars and euros should be applicable only in a foreign bank. If someone thinks that everything will resolve itself, then these are vain hopes.
  18. Nemorum
    Nemorum 28 September 2022 07: 16
    +4
    Well then. So the United States can, and we chew snot and play pre-property. Or forced to play, which is even sadder. So far, the states are winning the war outright.
  19. Jager
    Jager 28 September 2022 07: 17
    +1
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    what will Russia do? Nothing will happen. Now the main thing is composure and observation
    Sweden is surprised that it did not notice American saboteurs in its waters ..

    Yes, Europe lies under Uncle Sam, spreading her genitals from the English Channel to the Italian boot. Who will notice there?
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 28 September 2022 21: 06
      +1
      Quote: Jager
      Yes, Europe lies under Uncle Sam, spreading her genitals from the English Channel to the Italian boot
      And what part of the CE-European body is before us? Either the head is in the pan, or the priest is on the pot, I can’t make out. It looks less like a head, more bad.
  20. AndreyKa54076
    AndreyKa54076 28 September 2022 07: 30
    -1
    If we play this event as a chess game, then until the end of the investigation, identifying the perpetrators and punishing them, a special, international (countries involved in the incident - Russia, Germany, Denmark) commission, headed by Novak, close transit through Ukraine, leave the Turkish stream - SHAH ! We look further at the convulsions of Europe and threaten MATOM (turning off the Turkish stream)! ... But, unfortunately, our cowardly and too dependent on the West leaders do not dare to do so?!
  21. ocean
    ocean 28 September 2022 07: 35
    -2
    Biden not so long ago, veiledly, threatened to stop Nord Stream by any means. The US is in agony trying to save its dollar with a colossal external debt! They will never repay this debt under any circumstances and conditions! Does the West really not see this, against whom is it?! It even crossed my mind that maybe ours arranged it? Yes, let it be so! It's time to "treat" Europe from frenzied Russophobia, and poke their faces into the dirt! In the West, they went mad because of the decline in their standard of living, in which they "ate deliciously and slept sweetly" at the expense of the rest of the world.
    1. Beregovic_1
      Beregovic_1 28 September 2022 14: 16
      +1
      Write off inflation. No one indexes the amount of debt. 10% inflation - write off unsecured candy wrappers for 2 trillion
  22. Vladimir M
    Vladimir M 28 September 2022 07: 45
    +1
    Why shouldn't we wage an information war the way the Anglo-Saxons do? To announce to the whole world that Britain is behind the blowing up of the branches, that we have evidence, but of course we will not show them, they are secret. To tell the whole world that the Anglo-Saxons are bringing down the European Union - first Britain left, now they blew up gas pipelines, to convey to the population of Europe that they were patient ....
    1. AVESSALOM
      AVESSALOM 28 September 2022 07: 55
      +5
      In the information war, firstly, you need to be able, and, secondly, to have eggs.
      1. Vladimir M
        Vladimir M 28 September 2022 08: 02
        +3
        I agree, you need to be able to wage an information war, well, it's time to learn this already ... though Solovyov cannot be entrusted with this
  23. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 28 September 2022 07: 47
    +2
    We have never been so close to a full-scale war
  24. Galleon
    Galleon 28 September 2022 07: 53
    -1
    Just do not soar this sabotage. Stop selling gas to Europe altogether. Our supreme leader is only concerned about the increase in the speed of the sale of oil and gas - so that more and more money comes in, and all of it is sent to the National Security Fund and abroad, where they are stupidly slammed. Enough. Maybe then our grandchildren will have something left.
  25. AVESSALOM
    AVESSALOM 28 September 2022 07: 54
    +3
    The cunning chess player of the Commander-in-Chief with his referendums was easily turned on the penis by respected partners.)) The meeting of the Duma is already on October 4, instead of the announced 28th, and it’s not a fact that the regions will accept. It was to cover up this disgrace back in 2014 ..
    1. fiberboard
      fiberboard 28 September 2022 08: 23
      -2
      Even when they started building SP-1, they talked about such a possibility, and offered to supply gas to Europe by gas carrier ships. But the friends of the "zeroed" won, the owners of metallurgical plants and those who manufacture pipes. After all, Furgal is sitting, which Azovstal refused to give to the Rottenbergs, humanly. Here we need to remember that they dragged us into the WTO in order to have preferences in the sale of metal.
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      2. your1970
        your1970 28 September 2022 17: 38
        0
        Quote: fiberboard
        Here we need to remember that they dragged us into the WTO in order to have preferences in the sale of metal.

        To put it mildly, on the contrary. US duties on our metal were many times higher before the WTO
        Quote: fiberboard
        After all, Furgal is sitting, which Azovstal refused to give to the Rottenbergs, humanly.
        what does Furgal have to do with Azovstal ???
        1. fiberboard
          fiberboard 28 September 2022 17: 58
          -1
          Well, so that the duties were lower, they dragged them. And now we have climbed with this WTO. However, even without the WTO, we didn’t want to climb the most. Furgal had a 50% stake in Azovstal. And I didn’t want to give them away, for good, to respected people, the Rottenberg brothers. For which he paid. The article was online.
          1. your1970
            your1970 29 September 2022 06: 01
            0
            Quote: fiberboard
            Furgal had a 50% stake in Azovstal. And I didn’t want to give them away, for good, to respected people, the Rottenberg brothers. For which he paid. The article was online.

            You looked at the Ukrainian registers - who owns Azovstal?
            And Furgal..
            From my experience - anyone who traded timber and metal with China in the 90s - can be safely closed for 10 years. There were 200% smuggling, bribes, tax evasion and murders. These were absolutely criminal types of business
            1. fiberboard
              fiberboard 29 September 2022 06: 19
              0
              So in our country, any of the large entrepreneurs who earned capital in the 90s can be sued. This is already known to everyone.
              1. your1970
                your1970 29 September 2022 06: 27
                0
                Quote: fiberboard
                So in our country, any of the large entrepreneurs who earned capital in the 90s can be sued. This is already known to everyone.

                У any there may be different options. Raidering is practically not criminally punishable
                But specifically, trade with China in timber and metal could not technically do without crime

                I deeply doubt that in Ukraine after 2014, so that half of the giant of metallurgy, and so that the chantrapé is not even from the third row of the Russian rich, and so that the Ukrainians do not redistribute ....

                I do not believe...
                1. fiberboard
                  fiberboard 29 September 2022 14: 36
                  0
                  Ugh, you, yes I wrote incorrectly-Amurstal!
  26. parusnik
    parusnik 28 September 2022 07: 55
    +1
    As a result, Ukraine not only gets the trumps of gas transit in its hands, but also another reason to blame Russia.
    And Russia will continue to pay for transit to Ukraine, and Ukraine will continue to purchase weapons with this money.
  27. Aleprok
    Aleprok 28 September 2022 08: 00
    0
    "Look for someone who benefits," say the detectives. Here, in my opinion, the beneficiaries are all there ((
  28. Boris Sergeev
    Boris Sergeev 28 September 2022 08: 33
    +4
    Russia will do nothing. The main thing is composure and observation. Wonderful! I remember that a certain Ivanov also stated that they sat in the bushes and watched Serdyukov's abuses, so that later they could take him in his underwear from his mistress. Well, well, watch, see how it ends, don't start yet. Until the next explosion suits you.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 28 September 2022 09: 11
      +3
      Russia will do nothing.
      Why? It will increase deliveries for Western partners, unfriendly countries through Ukraine. An increase in the volume of deliveries, an increase in payment for transit, contracts must be executed, now the Ukrainian part of the pipe, both sides will cherish as "the apple of the eye." smile
  29. TEX-50
    TEX-50 28 September 2022 08: 37
    -8
    The topic is speculative. If technical regulations are violated, there may be pressure surges, and if pipes or welds are made in a blunder, then this picture may well be without any sabotage.

    On the other hand, any American submarine can approach unnoticed, and with the help of NPA, damage the pipes or attach explosives to them. Another thing is that, IMHO, it is quite easy to identify by the nature of the damage, whether it was done artificially, or happened for purely technical internal reasons.
    1. Alexander Vanichev
      Alexander Vanichev 28 September 2022 08: 48
      +8
      KAneshno welds burst in three different places at the same time.
      1. TEX-50
        TEX-50 28 September 2022 08: 57
        -10
        Simultaneity, firstly, no one has documented, and secondly, the concept is relative. Well, yes, if a batch of pipes is defective, then with a pressure surge, they can be in several places at the same time.

        But the point is not in this, but in the speculative nature of the topic. It will not be possible to find the culprits for purely technical reasons. But all parties will appoint them.
    2. Glory1974
      Glory1974 28 September 2022 10: 51
      0
      there may be pressure surges, and if pipes or welds are made in a blunder, then there may well be such a picture without any sabotage.

      and the Swedes have already stated that they recorded two explosions of 100 kg of TNT. That is sabotage for sure.
      1. TEX-50
        TEX-50 28 September 2022 13: 03
        -2
        Until the investigation is completed, nothing is certain.
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 28 September 2022 15: 22
          0
          after Western investigations, everything becomes vague to the point of disgrace. The magate investigated who was shooting at the ZNPP, so nothing concrete was written as a result.
          And here, even without investigation, it is clear that the seams in TNT equivalent do not burst.
  30. Alexander Vanichev
    Alexander Vanichev 28 September 2022 08: 43
    0
    Revenge must be cold.... There is no need to rush.
  31. certero
    certero 28 September 2022 08: 49
    +4
    To be honest, even the invasion of Ukraine does not change international relations as much as the destruction of the pipeline. Because I don’t remember a precedent even during the most terrible cold war.
  32. Vladimir M
    Vladimir M 28 September 2022 08: 52
    +4
    "Partners" raise the stakes in the confrontation, but we ourselves are to blame for this, constantly transferring the "red lines". Further it will only get worse. If quite recently it was enough to shoot down an AWACS plane of "partners" who cut books near the Crimea. Now, I don't know what to do anymore.
  33. BSD Fan
    BSD Fan 28 September 2022 08: 54
    +1
    The beneficiaries of this sabotage are also pshpshpsheki! There was recently an article on VO about an "accidental" explosion near the base of the Polish Navy, but I think that such an explosion should occur at the LNG unloading point near the Psheks, and at the same time near the Balts!
    1. Zoer
      Zoer 28 September 2022 09: 14
      +1
      Quite right! First, gouge the Baltic pipe, then Pshekia's LNG terminals.
  34. Zoer
    Zoer 28 September 2022 09: 12
    +3
    I don't understand at all what's going on? The Americans of the Europeans simply put cancer, and they endure and endure, and ask for more. Yes, they would have sent Amers long ago with their fighting pigs, and would have developed their industry together with Russia and the new Ukraine, as part of Poland and Russia.
    1. BSD Fan
      BSD Fan 28 September 2022 09: 53
      +1
      The Europeans were put in cancer, but the European establishment is waving its asses of the Europeans (not its own)! Do you feel the difference?
  35. certero
    certero 28 September 2022 09: 16
    +10
    The West has once again outplayed us. The creation of both streams provided for the disappearance of dependence on the gas transportation system of Ukraine. but no, all the time of hostilities, we obediently pump gas through Ukraine instead of immediately blocking or blowing up this gas pipeline, forcing Europe to receive gas through northern streams.
    And now it's almost impossible. P
    It seems that our leaders do not understand one thing while they are trying to stir up some cunning schemes to stir up Western countries, they act simply and unceremoniously.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 28 September 2022 10: 03
      +1
      There are two ways ..... these are civil communications ... built according to their rules. So it is possible to do so. And this is not just a diversion, it's like in the 90s we have - removing a competitor in the market (gas). But after all, everyone has torpedoes, but gas carriers, tankers will not be guarded ...... here, as with Kosovo and Crimea.
  36. monster
    monster 28 September 2022 09: 21
    +1
    Bomb the trans-Atlantic Internet cables!!!! and in denial!!! I'm not me and the house is not mine!!!
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 28 September 2022 10: 01
      0
      This is not a very bad option. There are also SOSUSS systems ... You can hunt for the Global Hawk UAV in neutral air space ....
      But something needs to be done. What would be an understanding that doing such things is expensive.
  37. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 28 September 2022 09: 51
    0
    The Poles are already directly thanking the United States for the sabotage on Potokah: https://rg.ru/2022/09/27/polskij-evrodeputat-poblagodaril-ssha-za-vzryv-gazoprovodov.html
    And this, in fact, is written by the ex-Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Poland. So here the "partners" are not even hiding!
  38. Alexey Nikolaevich_2
    Alexey Nikolaevich_2 28 September 2022 09: 52
    0
    Quote: Clever man
    seen everything?

    don't think((
  39. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 28 September 2022 09: 58
    -1
    They write that for such explosions, 100 kg of TNT is needed .......
    We need to respond to such blows. They won't let us do anything in the Baltic ....
  40. Yuriy1000
    Yuriy1000 28 September 2022 10: 01
    +3
    Let's assume our reaction:
    1. Express indignation and concern.
    2. Ask to hold a meeting at the UN.
    3. Once again, let's designate the notorious "red lines".
    4. Let's increase pumping through Ukraine.
    5. Let's resume pumping Yamal-Europe through Poland.
    1. Beregovic_1
      Beregovic_1 28 September 2022 14: 22
      0
      Where is the drain from? These proposals have not yet been printed out in the administration for the darkest one !!!
  41. Sergio63
    Sergio63 28 September 2022 10: 23
    -2
    Well... good news!?? Germany kirdyk will come in the winter, and Geypope as a whole !!? It is necessary to develop an offensive on the Outskirts, to free not only our lands from banner logs, but also our branches of oil / gas pipelines from their control and participation !!! We are waiting for the continuation of the actions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation .... "because We have not started yet"!??? CPR, management, General Staff, SBU, GUR ... Zelya's lair with its surroundings must be destroyed !!! ONCE AND FOREVER!!!
  42. Fedor Severny
    Fedor Severny 28 September 2022 10: 30
    +1
    Judging by the fact that the information is not refuted and not specified, in early August, US warships carried out mining of three strings of gas pipelines, and on September 26-27, the United States remotely blew up gas pipelines, considering the referendum a suitable occasion for another nasty thing against everyone, both for the European Union and for Russia . This intention was known in February 2022:

    https://t.me/trueinform_ru/5798 (видео 7 февраля 2022)
    Pres. Biden: "If Russia invades... then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."
    Reporter: "But how will you do that, exactly, since... the project is in Germany's control?"
    Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that."
    President Biden: “If Russia invades ... then there will be no more Nord Stream 2. We will put an end to it."
    Reporter: "But how exactly are you going to do it if... the project is under German control?"
    President Biden: "I promise you, we can do it."

    Polish MEP, former Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski on September 28 on Twitter thanked the United States for the attack on Russian gas pipelines.
    https://twitter.com/VG2020D/status/1575009851092049921
    Radek Sikorski MEP @radeksikorski: Thank you, USA.
  43. Sergio63
    Sergio63 28 September 2022 10: 30
    0
    And in general, it's time to stop (for a while) the export to Europe of all raw materials, primarily hydrocarbons, agricultural products (grain), fertilizers !!! Let's see how they live without a freebie, or rather survive the winter and spring! ?? And of course the answer ... somewhere in Rzeszow at the Air Force base, Ramstein, LNG storage bases .... That will be fun ....
  44. ont65
    ont65 28 September 2022 10: 33
    -1
    One thing is clear, the Germans were left no chance to fight for their own industry. Even though no one was going to launch the gas pipeline, but in emergency situations, what just happens. Just not this time. What about the investigation? Well, they will establish the presence of damage and nothing more. No one will take responsibility, and this is where the story ends. There is no need to restore it in the current conditions. It is pointless for a country that has frozen other people's assets to supply anything.
  45. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 28 September 2022 10: 33
    0
    Josep Borrell: All available information indicates that the Nord Stream leaks are the result of deliberate actions.
    Whose actions, Josep?
    1. connoisseur
      connoisseur 28 September 2022 12: 03
      -1
      "The stump is clear: Russia" - replies Zhopez.
  46. spolo
    spolo 28 September 2022 10: 40
    +1
    colleagues from the General Staff can only be advised to be guided by the biblical rule of an eye for an eye, learn to fight from the Americans and Jews. for my part, I can only hint at the coast of the US, east, for example, where a bundle of vital cables emerges from the coast in the New York area. further Hawaii - zhipies correction stations. it will be very unpleasant.
    1. connoisseur
      connoisseur 28 September 2022 12: 18
      0
      I'm afraid to upset you, but
      associates from the General Staff
      such an "event" cannot be pulled winked
  47. Zoer
    Zoer 28 September 2022 10: 47
    -1
    The funny thing is that it was obvious to many back in 2014 that instead of SP2, tanks, self-propelled guns, MLRS, UAVs and many other weapons should be riveted. But, our rulers and oligarchs wanted a bigger bobble for themselves, and not security and sovereignty for the country ...
  48. art having
    art having 28 September 2022 10: 49
    0
    "The scale of the ecological catastrophe that is now unfolding off the Danish coast is out of the question."

    What's so terrible? Isn't that oil?
  49. Visher
    Visher 28 September 2022 10: 56
    0
    There will be an investigation. It started. The culprits will be found. There are no questions here. Not tomorrow, not now. The question is what will be the answer? The damage to the Russian Federation is not small and not only financial, but also image. The damage to Germany is even greater, Germany has invested in the largest gas hub. German industry will fall into a coma. To think that the Germans will forgive the ruin of their industry is stupid. The BND will dig the ground, the Germans will not send such batmans to anyone, neither to the Americans, nor even to the Poles. They will find and check all the vessels in the Danish Strait, accidentally leaking information to the FSB. After the dieselgate in the USA, the claims of Poland, the annexation by the states of the gold reserves of Germany, the stench of the British, the Germans are very angry.
    A system of measures will be developed jointly with the FSB, not openly. Someone somewhere will close their eyes, somewhere something is leaking. That the answer will fly is clear. The answer will be tough, the Germans know how to work in this regard, just like we do. Patrushev must have already contacted the BND and the process has begun.
    The Germans should not be judged by their chancellor and foreign ministers.
    1. Genome
      Genome 28 September 2022 11: 38
      0
      The Germans will do what they are ordered from Washington. occupied country.
      And there will be no our answer, since the country's leadership sleeps softly, eats sweetly and does not bear any responsibility. And most importantly, what can it (leadership) do? Wherever you throw it, everywhere is a wedge. This is to the fact that in addition to selling its (our) resources, it can. And so it goes...
      1. Visher
        Visher 28 September 2022 11: 57
        +1
        There is no wedge. This is an act of forcing Germany and France to de-industrialize. Do you think European concerns are eager to move to China or the USA? At the same time lose trillions of euros? Right now, the hell of the largest corporations is moving towards the asses of Scholz and Macron. They will flare up, how hello. No one will forgive grandmas invested in plants and factories. Corporations have their own sources of information. The KMK has already sent SMS to the Kremlin that it is not us and the French and the Germans.
  50. Rustic i ......
    Rustic i ...... 28 September 2022 11: 50
    0
    Hmm, what happened, happened. Now you just need to think about how to extract the maximum useful components from this event. So that the return turned out to be very painful for those rejoicing and rejoicing from this diversion.