For miscalculations in the organization of partial mobilization, the military commissar of the Magadan region was fired

In the first days after the announcement by Russian President Vladimir Putin of the corresponding decree in the Magadan military registration and enlistment office, mobilization activities were carried out in an extremely disorganized manner. Therefore, for miscalculations in the organization of partial mobilization, the military commissar of the Magadan region was fired.

About this agency RIA News рассказал Governor of the region Sergei Nosov.

The military commissar was blamed for his mistakes and removed from his post. The new head of the department will have to organize work, first of all, in terms of organizing armor at enterprises. Until a new military commissar appeared in the Magadan Region, Lieutenant Colonel Yevgeny Derkach, acting in his duties, sent by the command of the Eastern Military District at the request of the head of the region, set to work.

A professional officer was sent here, who organized the work of the military registration and enlistment office, which was disorganized in the early days

- said the Magadan governor.

Nosov highly appreciated the first steps lieutenant colonel Derkach as part of his new duties, who has already canceled or corrected a number of orders of his predecessor.

As the Telegram channel Mash previously reported, the leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense reacted negatively to the excesses of the regional military registration and enlistment offices during partial mobilization. Often, some of the military commissars too zealously rushed to implement the new presidential decree. They began to mobilize "everyone in a row", just to quickly report on the implementation of the "plan".

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[Sergio_7]

Often, some of the military commissars too zealously rushed to implement the new presidential decree. They began to mobilize "everyone in a row", just to quickly report on the implementation of the "plan".

A thoroughly rotten and clumsy structure!!

[AUL]

Make ... pray to God - so he will hurt his forehead. And, unfortunately, not only for myself!

[Quote Lavrov]

Colleagues, I will try to explain in 2 words what the difficulties of mobilization are.
1. The system of local military administration in the time of Serdyukov was shaken up very thoroughly. Now even the military commissars of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation are civil servants of the RF Armed Forces. Accordingly, the system of mobile training, which was previously carried out relatively systematically, sank very badly.
2. Military registration and enlistment offices are "sharpened" for mobilization for a special period (not what is happening now). Under the teams being formed, mobile prescriptions for people and equipment were issued.
But now, leaving this distribution untouched, in fact, completely new teams are being formed, where, as I understand it, they don’t put those called up for a special period (or they do, but immediately you need to close positions according to the mobile plan). And we have to complete teams from 0 without touching the contingent of the special period, with which we worked at least somehow.
3. And now, teams formed literally "on the knee" issue summons with a margin of the number of those called up. And sooooo often the one who goes through the main composition simply does not come to the dispatch. And no one will cancel the obligation to send a command. And you have to put the second, third in turn. Those whom they do not have time to check physically due to real circumstances.

Conclusion: it is mandatory in the preparation of military registration and enlistment offices to conduct exercises with the actual mobilization of citizens and equipment according to teams formed both for a special period and for a period of partial mobilization. For example, fees.

Sentence:
1. Create a commission under the GOMU General Staff, the military district for the prompt consideration of citizens' appeals with the right to cancel the decisions of the mobile commissions.
2. To complete teams for partial mobilization, first of all, from the composition of the teams of the special period (except for the organizational core), with the immediate organization of the replacement of the composition of these teams.

Without justifying the military registration and enlistment offices, I can only say that no one simply taught them to work in such conditions. The events currently being held are organizationally very different from those for which the military registration and enlistment offices are preparing. This is a completely different mobilization than the one that is carried out during a special period.
The last time such events were held after the disaster at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and the experience has largely been lost. Including due to the exclusion from the states of positions of military personnel. As a result, military registration and enlistment offices have become largely a refuge for military pensioners.


Sorry for the many letters. It seems that he did not write anything secret, everything is ok.

[bk316]

Accordingly, the system of mobile training, carried out earlier relatively systemically.

Are you kidding?
Have you ever been a partisan?
Were you at the training camp?
A bunch of evil men dressed in semi-civilian clothes, sending commanders to hell and constantly drunk from idleness. This is what systemic work looks like since the 90s (and maybe even earlier). At the same time, snatching at the training camp is generally a separate issue. I have never seen such a mess anywhere in this state.

Regarding the call. Since the 80s, the system has been sharpened for one task - to milk those who mowed. The golden toilet bowls of the cops are nothing compared to the employees of the military registration and enlistment offices back in the USSR. And it was exactly EXTRACTION that it was not necessary to look for someone to give, they themselves came and extorted. And for everything, for a complete slope, for a delay, for a place of service, for a branch of service. My classmate wanted to join the landing force and then for the river (sometimes you know this too) so he also had to pay ...

And now there are civilians in general. And not just civilians, but aunts over 50. Even if they wanted to, they can’t do anything.
Do you know what the big problem is right now? People moving do not get registered. As a result, the plan for conscription in some village exceeds the number of inhabitants in general, because people have been working in Moscow for a long time.
Do you understand that this mega-problem for military registration and enlistment offices is solved in 5 minutes by an average programmer who was given access to the FTS database?

[Quote Lavrov]

1. Colleague, let's be objective - what happens exactly at the training camp is the responsibility of the unit, not the military registration and enlistment office. But in general, the question is not about shifting responsibility. Therefore, it is more than relevant, but to the wrong address. And fees are different .... I saw "partisans" joyfully running towards the bus that had come to pick them up. The men were really impressed - they thought they were going just for show, and they were taught military affairs properly from morning till night))) but I agree, this is rather an exception
2. It's stupid to argue about golden toilets. It was and certainly is. But the question is that these are different departments of military registration and enlistment offices and the one who is responsible for the mobile work has nothing to do with conscription. These departments do not sit on bribes at all. From the word "absolutely".
3. I answered a little higher about the program. If interested, you can read.
There the question is far from 5 minutes and many millions, tens of millions of rubles. But again I agree with you - you can’t save on defense capability. But after all, this is not a question specifically for the military registration and enlistment offices.

[bk316]

who is responsible for mobile work has nothing to do with conscription

And how to explain the situation that THREE of my friends spent two months knocking on the thresholds of the military enlistment office trying to go to the Donbass. They were all kicked off
possible ways. As a result, 2 went through Chechnya, and one is fighting in the NMDNR. They were not told anything, but everyone was told that they were old men and that a contract could not be concluded with them, and in general, dust was pouring in. And then two summons were sent, and they have been fighting for 2 months already.

[Quote Lavrov]

Colleague, the military registration and enlistment offices are not recruiting points for the French Foreign Legion?
It is not the military registration and enlistment office that determines when, whom, how many people to send to conclude contracts, for example. This is done centrally. Regarding your example, I can only assume that such assignments were sent to the military registration and enlistment offices closest to the training center, but your assignments simply did not come.
And yes, now the mob task has come - so the summons have arrived. Because, as I understand it, your friends were not removed from the military register.
You are asking perfectly valid questions, but you are addressing claims to the wrong level of authority. All that you have described is not a matter of self-organization of the military registration and enlistment offices of cities and regions. Not even a subject of the Russian Federation.

[bk316]

Well, you wrote about the system at the very beginning.
Is it about the system?

[Quote Lavrov]

That's why I say - the questions are absolutely correct, but their scale is much wider.

[bk316]

Who would argue...
Here, a letter came to us from the Ministry of Digital Development about mobilization - it seems that he wrote drunk in a wild hurry.
The very principle of booking is insane; they are booked not by position, but by education.

[Quote Lavrov]

Yes, I saw it yesterday. On the one hand, of course, everything is true - otherwise now half of the population will become IT specialists. On the other hand, I understand that many real specialists in the sector do not have a specialized higher education.
It seems that the reason must be sought elsewhere - in why the attitude towards mobilization is in many ways the way it is. And the questions are from the formation of an ideology to the lack of personal examples from the authorities. From the supply of those mobilized to the absence of any intelligible explanations about the criteria, information, etc.
And the problem must be solved here and now. It was possible to establish a condition - to have work experience in the specialty for at least 2 years? Can. And with the benefits of IT companies, that conscription and mortgages, they did just that. And now it’s just a planer with a sword ... I don’t know how to comment on this. We ourselves create tension in society already having a really thought-out option (although education is also needed there, but it’s not right in the mind and it was just necessary to leave the experience).

[bk316]

Was it possible to establish a condition - to have work experience in the specialty for at least 2 years?

It's not just possible. THIS IS ALREADY DONE, when the sanctions began, the industry received benefits, there were conditions that it should be considered an enterprise, including for employees REALLY WORKING IN THE POSITIONS AND NOT IN THE DIPLOMAS of twenty years ago. The data was sent to the Federal Tax Service, the benefits were checked and received. It seems that we do not have officials but cockroaches in the kitchen, which turned on the light at night.

[lopvlad]

Quote: bk316

Do you know what the big problem is right now?

in the fact that the military registration and enlistment offices for decades did not conduct office work and did not specify, update data on those in the reserve?

[blackcat]

I’ll subscribe to your every word, the Liberal Democratic Party literally yesterday, the day before yesterday stole my idea that military commissars should be sent to the front for their so-called miscalculations, but not completely, I would create a separate penal officer battalion, arm them with three-rulers, issue overcoats and Budyonovka and how in the movie "Chapaev" he went into a psychic attack in the places of khokhlopros and overcame, because the IP Military Commissar already got everyone back in peacetime

[ada]

Quote: Quote Lavrov

Colleagues, I will try to explain in 2 words what the difficulties of mobilization are. ...

There is such Hochma in acc. circles (specific):
"The inscription on the mobist's gravestone - "I never specified ..."
You did not participate in the discussion of the topic?:
https://topwar.ru/196813-nuzhna-li-mobilizacija.html#comment-id-12546156
there is Comrade.
Sedoy (Sedoy)
May 30, 2022 Not without interest.
Neither I, nor you, nor comrade. Gray-haired - we do not know the deployment scheme, I hope that the enemy does not know the real part either, but it is obvious to everyone that there are no significant short-range reserves and were not planned, which is reflected in the published concepts, doctrines and legislation in the field of defense. What do you need to create them? - yes, it is a general M and long-term reserves to move to the beginning, what we are being intensively pulled all this time, in fact, to the collapse of all state structures and mass unrest - the West buys popcorn in wagons and they can no longer enter anywhere, just by diplomatic mail send us an appropriate ultimatum and turn on the TV.
So, I think you write correctly (simplified), but this has nothing to do with reality, there is objectively no such deployment scheme.
We.
Everyone now understands what was done with a partial one, including the enemy - they cheated him, the event is called "misleading about the goals, timing and volumes of building up the CBSS during deployment." I believe that the directive with the task lying in the VC was worked out alone, and at the hour of the World Cup a completely different one came, unknown to anyone - which is obvious.
But, in total: there is no mob collapse - a fact, popular riots are quiet, the state reserve is opened - no, and referendums are going on and will reach their logical end, and the number of the Armed Forces is growing and will grow to the desired million military personnel (approx.) in a couple of stages, and demobilization you can suspend the start of the autumn draft campaign and prepare for the spring, the military-industrial complex will spread its tentacles in all areas and strangle some to nationalization, etc., jumping out of the window or with hand luggage on the way out.
They.
Let's get back to the opposite.
How is the economy feeling? Free peoples? The army is not on the streets yet? European unity?
Okay, the Allied Armed Forces of the NATs and the national armed forces of the countries of the front bastion block, as it were, on their own.
Why didn’t Polyandia and the Tribalts bend but father? Oh, no dancers. why don’t the Americans give their 260 Euro-Abrams to Polyandia, will they bring the South Caucasus from the states? Aircraft where for VNO? From distant airfields they will lift and massage into waves at hour H? Oh well. Why hasn't Transnistria been taken by Rumoland? Then what does the level of stability of a pair of PR PRO look like there? Mmm, they think. They are also thinking about the reaction to the new territories of the Russian Federation. It’s not scary to threaten with a terrible blow from the TV, but I think the list of shadow workers is going through and is not in a hurry to go to their ancestors. And time goes by.

[Quote Lavrov]

No, colleague, I have not seen this discussion.
I can only say my opinion in terms of mobilization (since this is the topic of the post and so as not to get banned).
The arguments of colleagues in this part are incorrect due to the incorrect (in my opinion) initial message that parts are being deployed. From what I see in open sources - no, there is no deployment. If that were the case, there would be a lot less problems. There is an understaffing of connections and parts. This is what confused all the mobile plans.
But I have even more concerns about another question - the supply and armament of the mobilized. No matter how much I say .... there may be certain difficulties in this matter.

[ada]

Are you unfamiliar with the material below?
"The concept of creating a new system for the training and accumulation of mobilization human resources of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military formations, bodies and special formations created for wartime in the new conditions of the socio-economic development of the Russian Federation (hereinafter - the Concept). 2007

The purpose of creating a new system for the training and accumulation of mobilization human resources in accordance with the Concept is to ensure guaranteed understaffing of the Armed Forces, other troops, military formations and bodies in a timely manner with military-trained mobilization human resources during the mobilization period.

The essence of the changes in the system of training and accumulation of mobilization human resources lies in the fact that a mobilization human reserve (hereinafter referred to as the reserve) is allocated as part of the reserve of the RF Armed Forces, the reserve of the Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation and the reserve of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation.

Thus, the reserve consists of a mobilization manpower reserve and a mobilization manpower."
I emphasize: "... guaranteed additional staffing of the aircraft..."

[Starover_Z]

Quote from AUL

Make ... pray to God - so he will hurt his forehead. And, unfortunately, not only for myself!

So the fact of the matter is that "only not to yourself" foreheads are broken.
To put it mildly, the mess was there before. I was called up in the fall of 1979, after a technical school (radio mechanic). So it was the head of such an office, the major, who read "technical school" and says - "Oh, you will go to the engineering troops!" "Specialists", damn it!

[Taimen]

It is necessary to plant, and not send them into retirement with a pension.

[Quote Lavrov]

He is so civil. So his retirement is long over.

[Rustic]

Well, if at least they were sent to retire, and not secretly transplanted to another warm place.

[Rostislav]

It is necessary to imprison for specific violations of the Criminal Code, and in case of official discrepancy, demote or dismiss. And pay attention to the one who recommended this "frame" for this position.

[sgrabik]

We usually get positions through patronage and acquaintance with high-ranking patrons, if there is no acquaintance, kinship and patronage with bosses, then you won’t get a position, even if you are three times a competent specialist and a high professional, so it turns out that we have a tyrant on a petty tyrant and cover themselves with arrogance.

[bk316]

Completely rotten year so by 1984

[Paul Siebert]

Well, in Kolyma, a special attitude towards the people.
Consumable material.
It would be nice to bring this gold miner to justice.
So that it was disrespectful to others!

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Sergio_7

A thoroughly rotten and clumsy structure!!

Yes, just today, on the occasion, they reported that a common acquaintance had a shaved son, 32 years old.
Urgent exactly, with a probability of 146%, did not serve.
"For the faith, the king and the fatherland - step by foot!"

[Titus_2]

Well, the question is why he didn’t serve .... Maybe it’s time to serve.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Titus_2

Well, the question is why he didn’t serve .... Maybe it’s time to serve.

Yes, in general, he is already an adult, he himself is able to decide what, when and how to do it, especially, as far as I know, he did not ask anyone for advice on this issue.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Aleksandre

Yes, in general, he is already an adult, he himself is able to decide what, when and how to do it, especially, as far as I know, he did not ask anyone for advice on this issue.

Well, they go to serve like that not because they follow someone's advice, but because male citizens of Russia have such a duty. So if he managed to mow down the army, then he failed to mow down the mobilization, because the age is right. Therefore, this should not be surprising.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

Therefore, this should not be surprising.

Well, why not be surprised? After all, Hydrant has never been caught on nonsense so soon, in my opinion this is a record.

[bk316]

After all, Hydrant has never been caught on nonsense so soon, in my opinion this is a record.

And where is the lie? Is he non-military?

[Aleksandre]

Quote: bk316

And where is the lie? Is he non-military?

The nonsense is that certain conditions were announced for the mobilized, but in fact for some reason this is not so. Don't think for yourself?

[bk316]

And what are these conditions? Do not bother to quote?

[Aleksandre]

Quote: bk316

And what are these conditions? Do not bother to quote?

I can teach you to search Google for what hangs on any news portal.

[bk316]

Well, that is, you refuse to quote?
Let me remind you that this is a violation of both the Internet and ordinary ethics, not to mention scientific.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: bk316

Well, that is, you refuse to quote?

If chewed food is also put into the beak, then the person runs the risk of remaining an idiot requiring constant care. Is it so unbearably difficult to type in the search engine "conditions mobilization" and read it??

[bk316]

Is it so unbearably difficult to type in the search engine "conditions mobilization" and read it??

No No No No, you will not get what the President said, but how the journalists or the cissists in general understood him.
The quote is something else.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: bk316

No No No No, you will not get what the President said, but how the journalists or the cissists in general understood him.
The quote is something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEOgq2pjQ_k с примерно 9:40
It took about a minute to search for the first video that came across with finding the timing with details. This is so, speaking of the usefulness of the skill to search for information.

PS I feel like a butt wiper in kindergarten...

[bk316]

Have you listened?
And what are the mandatory requirements for all who will be called up under this decree on partial mobilization?
I'll hint what I'm talking about.
To be called, IT IS NOT MANDATORY TO PARTICIPATE IN COMBAT ACTIONS IN THE PAST, IT IS NOT MANDATORY TO SERVE IN THE PAST.

The only obligatory condition is to be in stock.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: bk316

To be called, IT IS NOT MANDATORY TO PARTICIPATE IN COMBAT ACTIONS IN THE PAST, IT IS NOT MANDATORY TO SERVE IN THE PAST.
The only obligatory condition is to be in stock.

Excuse me, are you an idiot? If, first of all, those who have served with experience and certain VUS are called up, then how many millions should be called up before a non-serving one who has no experience and is in category B, which in peacetime is not called up at all ???

[bk316]

Excuse me, are you an idiot?

It's you idiot. Come on, if (and not in the first place) first of all they will call on those who fought in the first category, does this mean that they will not call on those who did NOT fight in the first category?
Just formal logic, nothing more.

[sgrabik]

And what, we already have laws for some characters that are not written, I want to serve, but I want not, so what ???
And this, in your opinion, is normal, some kind of Makhnovshchina, who should serve for him, protect him, he is not a man, but a cowardly slobber, let him serve and prove the opposite.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Sergio_7

A rotten and unwieldy structure

Come on and traditionally corrupt.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Come on and traditionally corrupt.

Moscow is far away, but he is in his place the king and god. Everything comes from here. Local everything.

[chetvertak]

And how many were fired and reduced military enlistment offices! And in the 90s and in 2000, what kind of bribes were there in hospitals and in the same military enlistment offices? Of course, I read and told about it, but I didn’t see it with my own eyes. , and it didn’t get better. In the last 5 years, something may have changed, but no further than the capital centers of the regions

[Usher]

Quote: Sergio_7

Often, some of the military commissars too zealously rushed to implement the new presidential decree. They began to mobilize "everyone in a row", just to quickly report on the implementation of the "plan".

A thoroughly rotten and clumsy structure!!

Oh well, is there an alternative? Let's! We will listen.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Sergio_7

Often, some of the military commissars too zealously rushed to implement the new presidential decree. They began to mobilize "everyone in a row", just to quickly report on the implementation of the "plan".

A thoroughly rotten and clumsy structure!!

It's just that the post-Soviet reforms destroyed it. As well as many other things. The structure itself is not to blame.

[svp67]

Quote: Sergio_7

A thoroughly rotten and clumsy structure!!

A system designed for a socialist country, with its planned economy and a strict passport system, cannot work normally in a capitalist country. The system of military registration and enlistment offices should have been reformed twenty years ago, but no, the money allotted for this evaporated somewhere, but the system remained and is maintained, for the most part, by people, mostly women of pre-retirement and retirement age, who receive pennies for their far from easy work ... It got to the point that in our region the level of salaries of personnel in the military registration and enlistment office is below the subsistence level.

[AAK]

They fired ..., they slapped the baby on the ass .... At a minimum, it was necessary to "place a job" for 5 years in the area in which he worked ...

[Paul Siebert]

Meanwhile, Lyupka Sobol on Twitter stands against mobilization with her breasts!
The situation is desperate!
Syphilis is no longer rolling! ..

[antivirus]

Do not touch the gold miners?
Or did the fish mafia work?
...
...
Execution cannot be pardoned without a nugget of 1 kg

[Asad]

In many regions, the stick was overdone, the long indifference towards the military registration and enlistment offices affected.

[Saboteur_Navy]

Yes, the military commissars are a little out of shape
In Samara, in the largest district, a military commissar is a woman at all, when did she serve in combat units? What does she know about the nuances of combat units?

[Sergej1972]

Sometimes this option is a woman military commissar, an ensign in the reserve.

[Saboteur_Navy]

There, the area is 5 times larger than Magadan, the population is about 500 thousand
Need rotations and combat officers

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

Yes, the military commissars are a little out of shape
In Samara, in the largest district, a military commissar is a woman at all, when did she serve in combat units? What does she know about the nuances of combat units?

They swam with fat! Drink more.

[Two]

Send Starkov to the company! Let them crush!

[Million]

Yes, everywhere is a mess. But it’s not so much the military commissars who are to blame, but the system itself.

[sgrabik]

The heads of local administrations are now appointing military commissars to the post, so we need to ask them according to what criteria they appoint people to these positions, really who will pay more ???

[Popov I.P.]

Do not talk nonsense, the military registration and enlistment office is an institution of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and the military commissar is appointed if he is a military man, depending on the staff category - a colonel in the nomenclature of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, below - the commander of the military. If the military commissar is a civil servant, then he is appointed to
a position in accordance with the Labor Code, but again an organ of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. But in the administrations of the subjects of the federation there is a mob. departments that interact with the military registration and enlistment offices and manage the mob. work in the jurisdiction. By the way, mob. work is not only the call of the contingent, but also the supply of equipment and mat. resources on mob. task, and preparation of infrastructure, and mob. tasks of industrial enterprises, etc. etc. Although the head of the subject of the federation is without fail a member of the Military Council of the district and formally for this reason is a senior official, although he does not appoint a military commissar. The weight categories of the military commissar and the governor are different, the military commissar cannot remove the governor, but the governor of the military commissar is elementary, with one call to the commander of the military district, the minister of defense and even the President of the Russian Federation.

[SARMAT123]

Can you explain to me who they are taking now!? And then you look, it feels like everyone in a row. (and served and did not serve)

[Mazunga]

got off lightly))) consider the lucky one jumped off

[spirit]

Now the second phase of the mess will begin. Training of personnel, equipment and the timing of sending to the troops.

[Amateur]

Military enlistment offices have been a hotbed of corruption and lawlessness since Soviet times. Unfortunately, nothing has changed.

[BABAY22]

The impression that our MO still lives in the 20th century.
Why can’t I come to any military registration and enlistment office in Russia, present a military ID and they will tell me whether the Motherland needs me now or not, and if needed, call me right there?
As in any bank branch in the country - I showed my passport and everything is visible, all accounts, who you are and how much you owe.
And in the Moscow Region, everything is secret, personal affairs are carried by courier and nothing else, no Internet and computers. Military secret.
Well, encrypt the way banks do, create your own, you had 30 years to do this.
Although it's too late to encrypt and do something.

[kin]

So it is, last year I was in two military registration and enlistment offices in our city, everything is Soviet there, from facades, linoleum, furniture, safes, grates, panels, wooden benches knocked down, and a hanger-board with aluminum hooks and nails. Everything is shabby, old stuff. The theater begins with a hanger, and the army with the military registration and enlistment office, the conscript, as he sees it ... I would also tell you how the medical examination is passed. There is a video, as in the barracks a woman says that there is nothing, we staff our men ourselves.

[Quote Lavrov]

Colleague, remember how many such bank bases leaked into the network from offended employees. And in the military registration and enlistment offices, ALL positions are civilian, so imagine what will happen with a single mobile base in the end

[BABAY22]

Everything is solved. You can't be stuck in the past forever.
Think, fellow programmers - read-only, computers without interfaces for connecting external devices ...

[Quote Lavrov]

This information is classified as "special importance". Therefore, for starters, it is necessary to return the positions of specialists in the LSS to the military registration and enlistment offices. Ensure the protection of premises and communication lines, and then give access to the database with the differentiation of rights. But take my word for it, it's easier to rewrite the entire program there

[ada]

Quote: BABAY22

... Well, encrypt the way banks do, create your own, ...

Only the US Armed Forces, without leaving, right from the spot: "... Currently, the SKBO (Cyber ​​Operations Forces) (with a total number of more than 60 thousand military personnel and civilian specialists) ..."
Foreign military review. - 2014. - No. 1. - P.41-46
Add here the secret services, X 2 allies, then - unpretentious spies and just useful idiots on the ground - all encryption will be bypassed by a simple flash drive taken out of the right slot and stupid external surveillance. In other words, they are not much better.

[NSV]

Here are the results of the reforms of the military registration and enlistment offices, when civilians were imprisoned !!! All the same, in the USSR, mob training was at the level!

[Radical]

Of course, people in the military registration and enlistment offices must be changed, but it is necessary to go through the entire mobilization, and most likely return the Soviet one.

[SARMAT123]

A guy I know called the hotline 122. They said they were also subject to partial mobilization from "B". How shoud I understand this!?

[gafovec]

Understood nothing. Sorry. Maybe explain more clearly

[Postcode]

stop, stop.... stop.... what the hell is a resignation?! AU!!! Is he over 60? On the front line, it is difficult to trust him to command a unit, but political officers are also needed there, let him be engaged in political and educational work and the moral and psychological state of the hp in the trenches.

[Piramidon]

After the Serdyukov reforms of 2008, the position of military commissars is CIVIL. As a rule, it is occupied by officers already in the reserve and retired. So he was simply fired and he will live only on his pension. Where is he "to the front line" if, according to the law, he is not subject to conscription.

[Postcode]

If he is a colonel, and he is a colonel, and he is under 60 years old, he is subject to mobilization as a reserve serviceman of the 1st category. Moreover, since 2013, it seems that the military position has been returned.

[leks]

Hmmm, and we were laughing here, over the fleeing Ukrainians from mobilization, who cannot mobilize normally
Not seeing behind the urapatriotic slogans and propaganda of real deeds in their own garden.

[forester]

Only one? - in Irkutsk, a military commissar by the name of Muzhenko (does not remind anyone of a surname, maybe a relative?) Said that they would mobilize not only persons with a category in the Higher Educational Institution AiB but also B, but last but not least, those who did not serve but are registered too, which contradicts and discredits the military country leadership. Yes, for such statements in this period it is not necessary to dismiss, but to demote to the rank and file and to the zone of the NWO

[alexey alexeyev_2]

Now they will send you to hell. Until retirement. I suspect that in the Crimea

[Piramidon]

Quote: Aleksey Alekseev_2

They will now send you to hell to serve until retirement.

He has already reached retirement age. He was just working as a military commissar.

[Jonny_Su]

Guber is lying. On September 21.09, Derkach was already the military commissar of the Magadan region, and he also signed the Order on partial mobilization in the region # 156 of 21.09.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX. The old military commissar, they say, was removed for other things.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Jonny_Su

Guber is lying.

Well, as always. And then the most bloodthirsty local brethren of Baranovsky sent him to the logging and trenches and planted him on a stake.

[Hey]

Who was the first to bring confusion to the mobilization? The first those who prepared the document, the second who signed it.
Was it difficult to immediately write directly in the decree
- persons are called up from such a year of birth to such and such
- such a category. Could tighten up and VUS called to indicate.
And at the end, indicate who will be exempt from conscription.
Yes, the Decree would be longer, but it would immediately be clear and precise. He put the decree in the nose of the military commissar and that's it, many questions would have disappeared at once.

[ada]

Quote: MUD

... Yes, the Decree would be longer, but it would immediately be clear and precise ...

No, the Decree would then never ended
that is why the “unreasonable” invented, or rather suffered, the workflow and all the adjectives to it, including the distinctions for officials.

[Petr_Koldunov]

This morning I heard on the news about the military commissar from Nazarovo. And what he is talking about is the nonsense of a madman and a shame for an officer in such a position!
By the way, the idea of ​​a mole and malicious intent arises involuntarily in order to discredit the army and the system in general (in the interests of TsIPSO and all dill propaganda) ... especially when you find out that the name of this military commissar is Tikhonchuk!

[Doliva63]

Quote: MUD

Who was the first to bring confusion to the mobilization? The first those who prepared the document, the second who signed it.
Was it difficult to immediately write directly in the decree
- persons are called up from such a year of birth to such and such
- such a category. Could tighten up and VUS called to indicate.
And at the end, indicate who will be exempt from conscription.
Yes, the Decree would be longer, but it would immediately be clear and precise. He put the decree in the nose of the military commissar and that's it, many questions would have disappeared at once.

So it was not the military who wrote something, but Putin and Shoigu

[Mint Gingerbread]

It seems to me that the current dialing system is outdated, there are too many human factors, but everything should work in a semi-automatic mode. Take the same summonses, they are carried by hand and a signature is required. It is not easier to do SMS mailing, like the same Ministry of Emergency Situations, without requiring a signature. For this, databases are needed, where all information is structured. When registering a SIM card or receiving a new one, the information is automatically added to the database of a citizen's personal file.
In SMS, a person receives brief information about any restriction in movement outside the country / region, the address and date of the visit, a list of required documents, a toll-free number for consultation. Make a robot that will answer frequently asked questions and the ability to answer an employee.

Free transport for movement to the military registration and enlistment office inside the city, so that a person can get and return home, by public transport. For example, a QR code valid for a certain amount of time that the controller can scan. Or free taxis working with the administration of the city / region. If a person's phone does not have QR support, then a unique code for 2 trips, which you can also tell the taxi operator and call him.

Each region must have sealed mobilization supplies, the waste of which entails criminal liability and dismissal. They must be replenished after a certain period of time. Failure to replenish is also severely punished.

etc. etc. where is it all

[Koronik]

"A professional officer was sent here, who organized the work of the military registration and enlistment office, which was disorganized in the early days" - I doubt that the officer who had just arrived from somewhere could immediately organize the work of the regional military registration and enlistment office - just the governor responsible for mobilization failed this event and switched arrows.

[Horn]

Quote: Starover_Z

Quote from AUL

Make ... pray to God - so he will hurt his forehead. And, unfortunately, not only for myself!

So the fact of the matter is that "only not to yourself" foreheads are broken.
To put it mildly, the mess was there before. I was called up in the fall of 1979, after a technical school (radio mechanic). So it was the head of such an office, the major, who read "technical school" and says - "Oh, you will go to the engineering troops!" "Specialists", damn it!

Somewhere after 1988, they sent me to the Chernobyl nuclear power plant to bury equipment and rake the soil (a kind man helped, thank God, his wife was friends with the wife of the regional military commissar). So the selection criteria were: at least 2 children, topographer or surveyor, master. I ask: - And the master, then what side? And if the master of machine milking?!
was before!

[nikniknik]

you don’t need to remove it, but send employees of the military registration and enlistment offices who allow violations to report with special zeal to the front line to those guys who were sent

[Popov I.P.]

I read almost all the comments, looked who the authors were by IP addresses. There are fewer external ones, but all the same, the TsPSO of the adversary, and our fifth column, are working. For someone, the difficulties and problems of the country, the people and its army are a pain in the heart, but for someone it is a squeal of joy. Remember the recent shooting of yet another psychos in Izhevsk and Ust-Iletsk, what joy this caused our non-brothers, although in the USA this happens once a week - and zero reaction Be that as it may, mobilization is underway, the vast majority of the population perceives it correctly, as forced need. Of course, there are also shortcomings, both subjective (caused by someone's incompetence, negligence and dishonesty), and objective shortcomings of the existing system of military registration and mobilization. In Soviet times, dozens of officers served in the military registration and enlistment office in each region, they had their own communication centers and cipher agencies, economic units, etc. The regular category of the military commissar of the subject depended on the density of the population, in large ones there was a "major general", in smaller ones - "colonel" (although they tried to appoint ready-made generals from the positions of commanders and brigade commanders to these positions). The military commissar and his officers had high authority on its territory. Each village council had a military registration desk and a dedicated worker for registering those liable for military service. The military registration and enlistment offices (even district ones) had full-time small arms, officers were on duty around the clock, the warning systems of the military districts GGS "Sheptalo" or "Shnur" were working, and the district radio alert networks were listening. Moreover, there were so-called. cropped units, staffed by 10-20% of personnel (mainly officers, warrant officers and security units) and fully equipped, whose officers, in addition to maintaining equipment, were also engaged in the study of assigned staff. Now in the district (city) so-called. departments for the night, at best, a civilian watchman will remain. After 2008, under Serdyukov, military registration and enlistment offices were "dispersed", transferred to purely civilian states, and many of today's problems are generated by this. Today's employees of military registration and enlistment offices are, as a rule, people of retirement age and, despite experience, their work efficiency is lower than acting officers. We saved several thousand military posts, but cut down the efficiency of the system. The decision of Shoigu S.K. to return the active military to the military registration and enlistment offices (several people per subject of the Russian Federation) is true, but insufficient, because in cities and rural areas so far there are not military registration and enlistment offices, but civil departments of regional (territorial) military registration and enlistment offices. Considering that some part of the military officers were injured during the SVO and declared unfit for military service, they may well continue to serve the Motherland in the military registration and enlistment offices in "non-combatant" positions. military commissariats about changing the address of residence, marital status, health status, obtaining a disability, etc. We need a unified state automated system for accounting for mobile resources within the framework of interdepartmental electronic document management, with connection to it, in addition to military registration and enlistment offices, registry offices, social services. protection, passport offices, migration service, educational and healthcare institutions, etc. It is clear that it costs money, but not so astronomical, because some of its fragments already exist in a number of departments. And with "runners" and dodgers, one must act according to the Law, one cannot expect heroism from them on the battlefield. It is right that they are given summons at the border, they are unlikely to turn back, but the tear-off coupon of the summons with a signature on delivery is the basis for a criminal case ..