Allied forces captured Ukrainian militants who stormed Krasny Liman

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Allied forces captured Ukrainian militants who stormed Krasny Liman

The Ukrainian army is unsuccessfully trying to launch an attack on Liman. The city is defended by volunteer formations, heavy fighting is taking place in its vicinity. As a result of the fighting, a large number of Ukrainian servicemen were taken prisoner.

In addition to the prisoners, the Ukrainian army also suffered heavy losses in personnel. The exact number of dead and wounded has not yet been reported, but there is no doubt that it is very impressive, given the intensity of the situation in this area.



Telegram-channel "Operation Z: Military commissars of the Russian Spring" publishes video footage of captured Ukrainian militants. The serviceman interrogating them demands that they show their faces to the camera. And he gives a comment: "You can see in the face that he is a Bandera man." Needless to say, the prisoners really look with hatred.

The city of Liman (Red Liman) is of strategic importance for further military operations in the Donbass. It is defended by volunteers from the Kuban detachment, Luhansk Cossacks and artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. They fight bravely, so the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not come out with anything for more than a day. Zelensky's order to take the (Red) Liman by September 24 was not fulfilled by the Ukrainian troops.

The Ukrainian troops were going to strike the main blow northwest of the Liman in order to break through further to Svatovo. Did not work out. Columnist Yuri Podolyaka believes that the main phase of the offensive operation in the Kr. Liman area has already passed. If the Ukrainian troops had succeeded in carrying out their plans, the breakthrough would have been more significant than in the Balakley-Izyum direction.

Earlier, the head of the Donetsk People's Republic, Denis Pushilin, also called the difficult situation in the Krasny Liman area. However, the allied forces managed to repulse the enemy attacks. The prisoners are now awaiting further investigation into the identity of each of them and participation in the war crimes of the Kyiv regime.
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    1. +12
      27 September 2022 14: 21
      It is necessary to straighten the face .... In full
      1. +51
        27 September 2022 14: 28
        and why the hell are they generally taken prisoner, it’s clear the stump there are only enemies, if not for exchange, then when you try to fly away, spank
        1. +52
          27 September 2022 14: 44
          I watched the video on the TV. The prisoners look like terry Bandera. There, without interrogation, it is clear that if positions are stormed head-on for a month, regardless of losses, then at home they zigut worse than any SS man from Viking.
          1. -13
            27 September 2022 14: 54
            Let them go as a gesture of goodwill. The faces are very serious.
          2. +31
            27 September 2022 14: 58
            Such bastards need to be put down. They gave a smoke and at an expense
            1. +2
              27 September 2022 19: 59
              Needless to say, the prisoners really look with hatred.

              Break these faces with a tarpaulin boot so that the eyes are not visible.
              1. -1
                28 September 2022 13: 34
                No, you don't have to hit.
                Pour 300 grams of gasoline on your head and set it on fire.
                And let go.
                1. 0
                  28 September 2022 20: 29
                  So that later they would do the same with our prisoners? In general, it is enough to read the comments about the method of execution of prisoners, as I begin to think. that Bucha is no fake. What an unhealthy craving for violence
                  1. 0
                    4 October 2022 08: 01
                    These are sofa warriors. Normal soldiers contain themselves
                2. 0
                  29 September 2022 18: 10
                  They will do whatever they want with our prisoners.
                  In general, read our grandfathers.
          3. +10
            27 September 2022 15: 00
            It must be understood that the Ukrainian army, which was at the beginning of the special operation, no longer exists. She is destroyed. Back in February, it numbered 250 people. Zelensky then boasted that this was the largest army in Europe. Now there is only one memory left of the "largest army". The number of irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, according to the most conservative estimates, ranges from 100 to 200 thousand people. No army in the world will survive or endure such losses.
            But in its place and instead of it, another army has long been created. The so-called proxy army of the collective West. Moreover, it already exceeds the previous defeated army by several times. Mass mobilization in Ukraine and, as a result, a lot of meat for the attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the obligatory use of drugs before the attack and the detachments are doing their job. Well, all this is fastened together by the ideology of Nazism.
            . From the very beginning of the operation, the Anglo-Saxon curators withdrew several Ukrainian brigades from the west of Ukraine and placed them on the training grounds of England, Poland and Germany. And all the time while the operation was going on, these brigades were trained in a decisive blow. For the most part, tankers, artillerymen, saboteurs and attack aircraft of urban combat were trained. The British managed to create and train a fairly large mobilization reserve, which no one knew about. And in September, all this armored fist was moved to Ukraine, assembled in one place and thrown into battle. And he eventually achieved tactical success.


            .Of course, the endless waves of mass mobilization that are sweeping over Ukraine, sweeping out the entire male population from everywhere, have played their role. And the country is quite large - at least thirty million. As a result, this proxy army in Ukraine turned into a dragon, in which several heads grow after one severed head. At first, people were simply drafted into the army. Ukrainians began to flee abroad. Several million have left. Then they blocked the borders with Poland - for potential recruits. People began to stay at home. Millions of men of military age (and they have it - from 18 to 60 years old) are still afraid to stick their nose out into the street once again. After evasion became widespread, they introduced criminal liability for ignoring subpoenas. Moreover, the term for evasion is five years. And it is quite obvious that from prison you will again be raked to the front line. This measure also dramatically increased the mobilization resource - not everyone wants to go to prison. As a result, the front received several hundred thousand more fighters. And at the front there is a simple rule: whoever learns poorly, he quickly dies. But nobody wants to die. And the called-up people on the “front end” begin to sharply learn. At least - survival and protection. And the best defense, as you know, is an attack. The most daring (and there are enough of them among Ukrainians) begin to learn this science as well. They go to explore. They become saboteurs. Tractor drivers study tanks. Drivers - infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers. Mechanics - artillery installations. Many age conscripts served in the Soviet Army, and on the “front end” they simply refreshed their memory.

            https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/347176/
            1. 0
              27 September 2022 15: 13
              She was not destroyed. Even the Russian Ministry of Defense even counted 60 thousand killed, and not 100-200.
              1. +11
                27 September 2022 15: 32
                the Russian Ministry of Defense counted 60 thousand dead
                Trust me, much more! Most likely it is confirmed data. Nobody checks their DNA. I know firsthand - they did not measure them. In the forests, in the fields, thousands of fragments of corpses rot. What the West is doing to the Ukrainian people who believe it is a subtle form of genocide for which there is no precise term yet.
              2. +3
                27 September 2022 19: 45
                The irretrievable losses include the missing, and those who received a disability due to injury, and prisoners and killed. And in the aggregate of all these categories, the loss of Ukraine is much more than 100000.
              3. -2
                28 September 2022 10: 08
                Excuse me, but what is this if not the defeat of that army physically? Add the wounded, prisoners, missing.
                It is clear that they have enough trained people, but do you understand that these are terrible numbers of Ukrainian losses? Moreover, not only the RF Ministry of Defense but analysts in the United States speak about 60 thousand dead.
            2. -18
              27 September 2022 15: 58
              Grandmothers in the yard on the bench will not tell you that.
            3. 0
              28 September 2022 04: 59
              American experts considered the Armed Forces of Ukraine the second army in Europe, after the Turkish one, as of February of this year ...
              1. 0
                28 September 2022 22: 25
                Quote: Yuriy Kashtanov
                American experts considered the Armed Forces of Ukraine the second army in Europe, after the Turkish one, as of February of this year ...

                At Hitler's headquarters, everyone is a little sick!
            4. Eug
              0
              1 October 2022 17: 17
              According to statistics from my acquaintances, the mobile capabilities of Ukraine are far from being exhausted. Unite the fired upon with even "slightly" trained ones, equip them with hand-held anti-aircraft and anti-tank systems, and put them on transport - any transport that can carry 400 kg. - and there will be many "small cuts" ... as you know from diamat, quantity turns into a new quality ..
        2. +3
          27 September 2022 15: 07
          What would be profitable to exchange later ... Unfortunately, there are also prisoners from our side
        3. +2
          27 September 2022 16: 19
          They look like wolf cubs from the den, what views feel
        4. -2
          28 September 2022 11: 06
          I saw this video. Usually, before being shot, the condemned are given the last cigarette to smoke. Everyone sits with a cigarette in their mouths. Hence the hatred in their eyes.
      2. +4
        27 September 2022 15: 13
        Quote from Dartanyan
        "You can see in the face that he is a Banderite." Needless to say, the prisoners really look with hatred.

        Such under the tribunal and at the expense, they are already inadequate,
        1. 0
          28 September 2022 22: 27
          Quote: Wend
          Such under the tribunal and at the expense, they are already inadequate,

          Initially, it was not necessary to turn on the camera, and in general to talk about the capture, they slammed in the trench in a quiet and ay, to the base ...
          1. 0
            29 September 2022 10: 23
            Quote: isv000
            Quote: Wend
            Such under the tribunal and at the expense, they are already inadequate,

            Initially, it was not necessary to turn on the camera, and in general to talk about the capture, they slammed in the trench in a quiet and ay, to the base ...

            Among them there are those who are ready to give up, if everyone is at an expense, then adequate ones will stop giving up. And we need to weaken the enemy and morally too
      3. +1
        27 September 2022 19: 54
        Quote from Dartanyan
        It is necessary to straighten the face .... In full

        Why rub your hands on your face? No.
        "A bullet changes a lot in the head, even if it hits the ass!" (C) Yes
        Quote: Alexander Soviet Union
        They gave a smoke and at an expense

        Well, yes. Another quote from the same character:
        "Feed and drink your enemy before you kill him." (C)
      4. 0
        28 September 2022 07: 51
        Quote from Dartanyan
        It is necessary to straighten the face .... In full

        It makes no sense. We are not animals - we just did not give up, with the appropriate outcome.
    2. -3
      27 September 2022 14: 21
      And here's what we have for today:

      My optimism has not increased.
      1. +7
        27 September 2022 14: 28
        Rybar, as always, gains more accurate and unvarnished information. And the situation is really critical. The ukrov have plenty of meat and the goals are clear: to capture the maximum number of territories before the autumn thaw (it starts much later for them) and to strengthen the front at the expense of the mobilized.
        1. -1
          28 September 2022 10: 14
          And true and not, later earlier depends a lot on the season. You see, I live in the Crimea, and this is about the same as Ukraine in terms of climate, and we had rains that were not very typical for September. For example, last year I swam in the sea in October and I won’t climb into cold water, because of my childhood I could, and now crap. Well, the fact that the rains lowered the temperature and smeared the primers, I believe that it’s clear to you without me. The last time this happened was about 14 or 15 years ago, it was even a little worse with the rains. And the rest of the autumn in the specified interval, dry. In December I went to the store for bread in a T-shirt. I'll freeze now.
      2. -37
        27 September 2022 14: 28
        Estuary will be handed over as they handed over raisins, this is a fact. Do we really have such huge losses that we cannot transfer reinforcements and crush this bridgehead? Where is the whole army?
        1. +9
          27 September 2022 14: 35
          It's not about losses, but about the length of the front line and limited numbers. It is impossible to expose other areas - they will perfectly track it from satellites and strike there. Apparently the priority now is Kherson to secure the Crimea. And here, according to the residual principle, with the hope that we will win back at the expense of the mobilized. But whether we will win back - I'm not sure. In addition to mobilization, it is necessary to change the approach to war entirely.
          1. +9
            27 September 2022 15: 04
            Due to the mobilized? In general, the logic of the Moscow Region is not very clear to me, in my opinion, personnel units should go to the rescue. Let not 100% composition but 30-50 or whatever percent there is. After all, we don’t have 170 thousand ground troops, but plus the National Guard, etc. And the mobilized should be sent for resupply instead of those who left. And engage in training, combat training, etc., so as not to be cannon fodder. And in our country it seems to be the other way around, the combat units sit in place and the mobilized to the front line. Or maybe I don't understand something...
            1. 0
              27 September 2022 15: 15
              So all the personnel units are also at the forefront. Just somewhere "cold", somewhere "hot". On any sector of the front, the mobilized will have to immediately engage in hostilities.
            2. +1
              27 September 2022 15: 39
              Quote from Voronezh
              After all, we do not have 170 thousand ground forces

              Yes, almost everything except conscripts.
            3. +1
              27 September 2022 15: 45
              The way it is. In our Kuban, the Molkino training ground is overcrowded. They say they will be here for two weeks and then they will be sent to Novocherkassk, and from there to Ukraine
            4. -10
              27 September 2022 16: 06
              Personnel sit, mobilized in the trenches. You understand everything correctly.
            5. +4
              27 September 2022 17: 48
              It’s impossible to understand this at all, even the mats are no longer there, people are being ruined, the peaceful people are renting out like 17, it’s very similar that the tops can’t and the bottoms don’t want, although again hpp.
            6. -1
              27 September 2022 18: 02
              And what is in your understanding of the personnel department? Do you mean parts staffed by 18 year old boys?
              1. -3
                28 September 2022 10: 22
                Judging by the number of conscripts (not now, but before), our personnel units have not been completed 100 percent for a long time. conscripts. Basically a contract.
              2. 0
                28 September 2022 16: 56
                these so-called 18-year-old boys have career officers, commanders, who, with due respect, can make normal soldiers out of them after six months of service. And the mobilized commanders are also mobilized, who, like the first ones, have already forgotten and don’t remember anything that they were taught earlier in the army or at the school. We absolutely unjustifiably do not involve in the SVO military units consisting of conscripts who have already served for six months. Why do we need this army of conscripts, if it cannot be used to protect the country? War is a matter of young, healthy and motivated, and not mossy men who have families with children and elderly parents in the rear. If anything happens to them, who will need the latter. To our state?
                1. 0
                  28 September 2022 18: 34
                  You probably forgot what the universal howl of all sorts of "committees of soldiers' mothers" of human rights activists was when conscripts were actively involved in Chechnya.
            7. +1
              28 September 2022 08: 07
              Quote from Voronezh
              Due to the mobilized? I don't understand the logic at all.

              It's just that Russia has no real army. The contractors showed all their rotten essence. These are peacetime warriors (I'm not talking about decent military personnel). It was the 500s of the contract soldiers who set up the army. It is precisely because of such "warriors", who exposed the defense, that "breakthroughs and offensives" of NATO hybrids largely occurred. In peacetime, contractors maintained the appearance of the well-being of the Russian Army. The contractors are motivated to "cut the money" with minimal problems. As soon as it came to the fulfillment of military duty, they fell down, exposing the units and placing the remaining ones, faithful to military duty, in very difficult conditions. I believe that all "500x" are recognized as fraudsters, with the confiscation of property, as earned dishonestly, working off the remaining (triple) terms of the contract, on the construction of defensive structures.
          2. -1
            28 September 2022 10: 15
            Crimea is quite reliably covered, there is a question on Kherson in the Dnieper bridgehead.
        2. +32
          27 September 2022 14: 39
          Quote: tihon4uk
          Liman will be handed over as they handed over raisins, this is a fact

          No one can stop you from expressing your opinion.
          But you don't have to pass it off as a fact.
          Because fact is an objective category.
          1. -5
            27 September 2022 14: 45
            So far, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have captured Kupyansk-Uzlovaya.
            Not "taken under control", namely captured.
        3. -2
          27 September 2022 16: 01
          Liman is the DPR, and now also officially Russia, so that there is no need to compare with Izyum.
      3. +12
        27 September 2022 14: 30
        Have you got more information? Have real operational plans been added?
        For me, the elimination of an attempt to break through the enemy causes pleasure and optimism, because I do not think strategically - I do not have such skills and knowledge, because "I did not graduate from academies."
        1. -6
          27 September 2022 15: 10
          There are a lot of people who graduated from the academy, with diplomas, certificates, medals and other bullshit, who cannot think strategically. What's there, they hardly think strategically. And yet they are in leadership positions. We especially.
          1. +2
            27 September 2022 15: 26
            We should not be singled out in this especially. Everywhere is such crap. The only question is the efficiency of cleaning from slag - we have problems with this. A 42-year-old polkan was appointed to the national control center - "let's look at the greyhound" in relation to the lampioners.
            Operational maps have weight only with the location of units and the availability of firepower (we are even silent about the little things, such as weather reports and ensuring the supply of ammo) - the rest is just a color picture.
            1. -2
              27 September 2022 17: 39
              Costs. It's not like this everywhere. Not even everywhere.
              1. -4
                28 September 2022 10: 19
                Not everywhere, let's be specific, where? Remind me how the Turks showed their operational art when their leopards shot down with grenade launchers? Like their self-propelled guns, there are publications here, they climbed out onto a hillock and out of three two with anti-tank systems, one for good.
      4. +1
        28 September 2022 22: 31
        Quote: Ivan Sviridov
        And here's what we have for today:

        My optimism has not increased.

        A strange feeling that it's time to sausage the gut, or is it too early?!
    3. +20
      27 September 2022 14: 21
      The serviceman interrogating them demands that they show their faces to the camera. And he gives a comment: "You can see in the face that he is a Bandera man." Needless to say, the prisoners really look with hatred.

      He looked at Bandera's muzzle, took him into the bushes and carried out the sentence!
    4. +34
      27 September 2022 14: 22
      There is no need for foreign prisoners - "they died heroically." Ours already, probably, understood it.
      1. +15
        27 September 2022 14: 33
        these muzzles are clearly asking for bullets too .. such people should not be taken prisoner - they are incorrigible, the hatred on their faces screams directly ... they only need to be fed in vain ... unnecessary material .... they definitely won’t work for the benefit of the liberated lands, they went kill, not die, and captivity is considered a misunderstanding by "commanders betrayed", stupid and narrow-minded do not understand their initial defeat, drugged by propaganda and promises of "slaves and lands in the East."
        1. +3
          27 September 2022 15: 21
          That's right - denazification should take place. Dear Kadyrov, he said so - do not take prisoners.
        2. +1
          28 September 2022 08: 51
          You know, these are the faces of enemies, if we continue to talk about the "fraternal people", then we will go nowhere. This is the enemy! This is an enemy at the level of the gene, this enemy must simply be destroyed, not to have conversations, but simply to dig in. I saw such faces, captive, looking from under their brows, still in a fever. Right now they will thaw, they will start to cheat, they will become chefs, just to cheat. These will never be reprogrammed. The territory that was called the Ukrainian SSR should simply be cleared. The majority of the population of this territory went into war mode, not for the defense of the fatherland, as the first yelled, not for the glory of a negro, these go berserk simply from no source, what is here, what is there. It's easy to break such people, only with brute force, it's like trying to tame a beast, someday it will rush at you. Look at the interview of Steshin KP, where he clearly says what is needed. These faces confirmed this. To do this, we ourselves must go into this mode. I was in the military enlistment office, looked at the mobilization, at the guys, wives. Escorted to the Army!!!! Not to the war, but to the Army. We have not yet understood what we encountered in that territory, these faces were shown, they showed me personally. I am 58, I understand without illusions, they will mobilize, if not today, then tomorrow. I bought 4 dry packs, three sets of thermo, 20 pairs of socks and shorts. Mentally, you need to be prepared for these creatures.
          1. -1
            28 September 2022 10: 30
            And here I was watching an interview with a former Armed Forces officer, he was captured either at 14, or at 15, his militias even almost killed him, they thought that he was a sniper. So he went to serve for the DPR faithfully. You are not suitable for my fathers in terms of age, but you are definitely suitable for uncles, why do I insist that it is necessary to act with both a word and a pistol, but you are not?
      2. 0
        28 September 2022 10: 21
        Plus, but when they take him prisoner, it doesn’t say who he is, well, if he’s a Negro, then it’s clear, but if he’s a Swede? But when trying to escape, it may very well be that now, in general, there will be fewer prisoners taken - this is a fact, especially the people's militias.
        1. 0
          28 September 2022 10: 50
          Foreigners themselves quickly personify themselves, because "I am a European, my life is more precious." For too long there was such a rule of Being with us - they themselves are to blame for the arrivals of "hunters". However, we are known for extremes - either too kind or fierce - sobriety of emotions and reason is rarely about us. However, this is strategically a plus for us, but here and now it hurts.
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      1. -1
        27 September 2022 14: 32
        I agree. Looked at the map. Smells like a boiler. Where is the army - a rhetorical question.
        1. -9
          27 September 2022 14: 51
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          I agree. Looked at the map. Smells like a boiler. Where is the army - a rhetorical question.

          If the map is correct, then either an immediate counterattack from the north on the ledge, or Lyman will be abandoned tonight. Well, or a real boiler.
          Quote: voyaka uh

          voyaka uh (Alexey)
          Today, 14: 45
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          So far, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have captured Kupyansk-Uzlovaya.
          Not "taken under control", namely captured.

          If this is true, then only the exit from the boiler.
          Who is doing what and where, the question is really rhetorical.
        2. -6
          27 September 2022 15: 14
          In the cauldron.................................
    6. Two
      +2
      27 September 2022 14: 25
      hi "You can see in the face that Bandera"
      Down the drain! Or in manure! There is no other option.
    7. +8
      27 September 2022 14: 28
      "went for wool, but returned shorn" (Russian proverb)
    8. +15
      27 September 2022 14: 30
      Where did you get so many??! Commentators are provocateurs. And almost all of them are registered a couple of days (or a couple of months) ago.
      1. -4
        27 September 2022 14: 43
        If you take to the Victory Parade in Moscow with only 14g of patriots with VO, there will be few, them or us.
        The expansion of the social base is welcome = the return of the prodigal son ... And so on up to 250 million hours
      2. PC
        0
        27 September 2022 18: 25
        Accurately noted. Some provocateurs. And all are superstrategists.
    9. +11
      27 September 2022 14: 35
      why are they taking the notorious Bandera prisoners? give them an escape attempt and waste
      1. -3
        27 September 2022 14: 42
        Prisoners can be beneficial. We have a lot of physically hard work to send them to. But why keep them and even exchange them at a very strange rate - I don’t understand.
        1. -2
          27 September 2022 17: 52
          Exchanged for an ammonia pipeline, drained in a cart
    10. +6
      27 September 2022 14: 41
      defended by volunteers from the Kuban detachment, Luhansk Cossacks and artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

      Am I the only one who doesn't understand why this strategic sector is not backed up by regular troops? Arta is good, but I think aviation and motorized rifle units would be useful here?
      And "Bandera", I think, now they will no longer be taken prisoner. After the "extraction" of the Nazis and the "gestures of good will" with foreign mercenaries ...
      1. -2
        27 September 2022 15: 16
        Actually backed up. 144 msd. And a lot of other parts.
    11. 0
      27 September 2022 14: 43
      Quote: Flood
      Because the fact category objective.


      category - completed
    12. +3
      27 September 2022 14: 45
      why capture? - so that someone "sells" them tomorrow? - or bought?
      1. +4
        27 September 2022 15: 13
        why capture?
        While Bandera on the front line firmly learned that they don’t kill in Russian captivity, they feed them three times a day, a humane respectful attitude, ... So let them surrender! And you need to show them how good it is in captivity. They show and do not hide their anti-Russian essence, they flaunt when they are convinced of the humanity of the quilted jackets. Here's the moment of truth for you - it's clear who goes where ... I hope Westerners with tattoos will not be given rations of three meals a day in any case and without any interrogations. Foreign mercenaries - there too!
    13. +1
      27 September 2022 14: 46
      Where is the personnel army about which it has been said for 20 years that it is the strongest in the world? Where is all this new weaponry? Why is no one responsible for anything? And who is ultimately responsible for everything?
      1. -2
        27 September 2022 15: 16
        Common man. Collectively. As always.
    14. -4
      27 September 2022 14: 51
      Did they take someone to change it in turn?
    15. +1
      27 September 2022 14: 53
      Under the court of a military tribunal: either at an expense, or for the restoration of destroyed cities (for rations).
    16. +2
      27 September 2022 14: 53
      Again, twenty-five. Why take prisoners? I saw this video. There are broken Nazis. They openly regret that they killed a little
    17. 0
      27 September 2022 14: 57
      The Telegram channel “Operation Z: Russian Spring military commissars” publishes video footage of captured Ukrainian militants. The serviceman interrogating them demands that they show their faces to the camera. And he gives a comment: "You can see in the face that he is a Bandera man." Needless to say, the prisoners really look with hatred.

      When trying to escape... sad
      1. 0
        27 September 2022 16: 10
        When trying to escape... sad
        Yes, without any attempts, just in consumption. Who will protect them, put him on a par with them.
    18. -2
      27 September 2022 15: 03
      Quote: Old Horseradish
      Where is the personnel army about which it has been said for 20 years that it is the strongest in the world? Where is all this new weaponry? Why is no one responsible for anything? And who is ultimately responsible for everything?

      Reserve Army, Steppe Front, .... ever heard. Everything has its time for everything. No need to unmask and shout ahead of time. At the beginning of the Battle of Kursk, after the encirclement of Stalingrad, ... tanks were also knocked out with grenades. And the reserve ones were getting ready, well-fed and complete. You can’t do much in the first trenches, they’ll knock you out with artillery. And in general, I am an electronics physicist, jacket and communications repair commander .... I don’t understand the General Staff, but there are strategists there and I believe in them !!!
      1. +3
        27 September 2022 15: 28
        The fact of the matter is that the concepts of camouflage and unmasking are outdated. Because the entire south of Russia is under the optical and (perhaps?) electronic control of American satellites transmitting information to Kyiv online. Remember how before February 24 foreign media were full of reports of Russian troops near the Ukrainian border. If there are no similar messages now, then there is no reserve front. Fresh replenishment is just being formed.
      2. +3
        27 September 2022 17: 33
        It is incorrect to compare everything that happens with the Second World War, how to write it softer. In 8 months, even in the desert, it was possible to build factories for the production of drones and fill up the front with them. This requires personnel and desire. Where is all this? where is the mobilization of industry and the economy?
        1. 0
          28 September 2022 04: 54
          I completely agree !!

          Unfortunately, "we" have a medieval mentality. A thousand times convinced of this, alas!
          We are too often catastrophically (!!!) we are not receptive to new ideas and are unable to react quickly, quickly organize ...
          As for example, the Americans - that's really enterprising people in this regard - there is a lot to learn!
          Suffice it to recall their defense industry in World War II - well, for example. production of aircraft - from fighters to the "Flying Fortresses" B-17 and B-29 ...
          With us - until the roast goose pecks, or the thunder breaks out ...
          Take at least total failure in drones and combat robotic systems - HORROR !!! !!! !!! Indeed, back in 2004, our specialists developed an excellent UAV, and knocked their heads on the doors of the Moscow Region - they literally rang the bells ...
          And what an unimaginable price are we paying for this now?!...
          1. -3
            28 September 2022 10: 41
            You probably don’t know, but our industry moved to the East of the country, tell me what kind of economy is capable of this today? In Nizhny Tagil, a tank rolled off the assembly line every hour, has anyone had similar successes?
        2. -2
          28 September 2022 10: 39
          Will your shots fall from the sky? Excuse me, but if you ruin basic education, and with it secondary technical education, what kind of breakthrough can you expect? My friend kept history in the radio-electronic techie in Simferopol, during Ukrainian times. Its graduate students for the most part trade mobile phones in the transitions.
    19. Two
      -2
      27 September 2022 15: 08
      hi It's time to prepare an operation to debrief Svidomo. Which are suitable for working off their sins - those for the Narxoz, for rehabilitation, the rest for a barge with programmed kingstones and for Turkey ...
    20. -2
      27 September 2022 15: 14
      Quote: Old Horseradish
      Where is the personnel army about which it has been said for 20 years that it is the strongest in the world?

      Here.

      Quote: Old Horseradish
      Where is all this new weaponry?

      Here.

      Quote: Old Horseradish
      Why is no one responsible for anything?

      Because.

      Quote: Old Horseradish
      And who is ultimately responsible for everything?

      Somebody.
      Are you so okay? Or are you asking these questions here, hoping that you will be answered in detail?
      1. 0
        27 September 2022 17: 43
        Why expanded? Have we disappeared all the military districts? Why can't you take professionals from there? We actually have six districts! And shake a couple of oligarchs and attract a Landsknecht division and more than one for this loot. You have to think creatively!
        1. -1
          28 September 2022 10: 42
          I just discussed this topic with my wife, why don’t they shake it up, because only the state can protect their business. I understand everything, villas, yachts, other property, but they earn money here. What's with their sense of self-preservation? They would have looked at the same Akhmetov.
    21. 0
      27 September 2022 15: 27
      "The prisoners are now awaiting further investigation into the identity of each of them and participation in the war crimes of the Kyiv regime."
      - so so so, but what awaits the captured Natsiks after moving to a pre-trial detention center? Does anyone else have confidence that they will not be released to the triumphant exclamations of Western curators?
    22. 0
      27 September 2022 15: 28
      In ukroSMI there is infa about the mobilization of 5.5 million people, where they will get them from, I’ll never know
    23. 0
      27 September 2022 15: 41
      The prisoners will soon have nowhere to go.
      Will they take money from me again to feed them?
      Let them master the virgin lands in the mines or grow deer beyond the Arctic Circle.
      1. -1
        27 September 2022 15: 54
        Quote: Arkady007
        The prisoners will soon have nowhere to go.
        Will they take money from me again to feed them?

        It's just that there are no mercenaries, no Azov, no Kraken among them. Otherwise, they would have changed a long time ago ... about five hundred Nazis for two dozen of our privates.
    24. +4
      27 September 2022 15: 52
      Eka is unseen ... they really look with hatred ...
      I remember when they showed footage of the surrender and search of the foam from Azovstal - there they looked real with terrible hatred and anger. Some faked it turned out to hide it, and some did not even try.
      So there is no need to be deluded about the fact that "well, how can you, these are our people, just besotted" - no more!
      1. -1
        28 September 2022 10: 52
        There are enough crazy people out there. What do you want from a kid who was born in the pride of the 90th? And they blow into his ears from all irons. There is no doubt that it is necessary to wet on the battlefield. I still don’t understand why on the first day the SVO didn’t hit the barracks, who was spared? Probably it was necessary to feel sorry for our boys that they began to snatch in the rear columns.
        But let's take a referendum, you are an experienced person and therefore you will understand. Do you think there is everything for Russia in the same Kherson region? I don't know much about it and the people that live there. Just like here in Crimea, but many pro-Ukrainians remained and resigned themselves. I have a friend who is pro-Ukrainian, and so he has even stopped raising pro-Ukrainian topics, and not because they will beat him. He lives normally in Russia, what he lived in Ukraine.
        I consider weak agitational processing of the enemy as a disadvantage. Well, for example, leaflets with the inscription: who shot at your grandfather? Little we put pressure on their psyche.
    25. +3
      27 September 2022 16: 15
      Columnist Yuri Podolyaka believes that the main phase of the offensive operation in the Kr. Liman area has already passed.

      The opinion of this observer is worth listening to and quoting everywhere. Superanalyst! What are his forecasts and announcements of boilers in which the Armed Forces of Ukraine were supposed to get! "a question of 2-3 days, a maximum of a week" (C). I would like to hope that at least now I guessed, and not, as usual, with a finger in the sky.
    26. 0
      27 September 2022 16: 20
      Quote: Wend
      Quote from Dartanyan
      "You can see in the face that he is a Banderite." Needless to say, the prisoners really look with hatred.

      Such under the tribunal and at the expense, they are already inadequate,

      There are no tribunals in Russia. And the death penalty. wink
    27. -2
      27 September 2022 19: 32
      Quote: Old Horseradish
      Where is the personnel army about which it has been said for 20 years that it is the strongest in the world? Where is all this new weaponry? Why is no one responsible for anything? And who is ultimately responsible for everything?


      And the seller Vasya, who does not want to go there, will be to blame for everything.
    28. 0
      28 September 2022 05: 08
      Who will explain to me, a fool, how they could allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to bring up such huge forces for the offensive ... ???
      Yes, and allow to transport all this to the east coast?! ?! ?!
      Where is all our intelligence - from space satellite to UAVs?!
      Where are the massive strikes with vacuum bombs, high-precision, long-range artillery ??
      You can see too much I, wretched, do not understand (((((....
      1. +1
        29 September 2022 02: 09
        And not only you. In general, it is not clear what is going on in the minds of the Russian leadership. No white gloves will be removed. This chit-chat with Nazi Ukraine no longer even amazes Russians - it revolts.
    29. NSV
      +1
      28 September 2022 07: 47
      Why always show our Russian goodness?! I doubt if we stood under ... Stryem, these pig pans took us prisoner and communicated so beautifully !!!
    30. +1
      28 September 2022 09: 21
      And anyway, why take them prisoner!? Will they let go again??? Need for FERTILIZERS!!!
    31. 0
      28 September 2022 09: 34
      Do not take prisoner! Enough, they already messed up with "Azov", where are the tribunals, where are the trials, where are the enforcement of sentences! ?? Exchange, you say ... no, it’s better right away then + for consumption, FOR FERTILIZERS !!!!
      1. +1
        28 September 2022 10: 54
        Are you an instigator? Do not take prisoners so they will stop surrendering, which means resisting to the last. Maybe before you post you should turn on your brains? At worst, on this subject Machiavelli, read the Third decade of Titus Livius.
    32. 0
      28 September 2022 10: 41
      Maybe you shouldn't take them prisoner, they'll exchange them for Medvedchuk anyway...
    33. 0
      28 September 2022 16: 18
      I wonder where is our Russian army located? Near Kharkov, as it turned out, on the first line of defense broken by the Nazis, mobilized from Luhansk and Sobrovites were. Under the red estuary, motley volunteer formations are holding the line. Have they thrown everyone under Kherson? There to keep the defense. Do we even have an army?
    34. -1
      29 September 2022 02: 05
      Taken prisoner? What for? Destroy freaks on the spot.
    35. +1
      29 September 2022 02: 40
      I see many appeals - such in the bushes and a bullet. But guys! Now in Liman, our guys are practically surrounded to death. And if they will have to choose captivity - or stand to the death?
      For young people, I will explain that the larger our exchange fund, the more chances our prisoners have.

      Can't fix them? See how not learned Zelensky - Volyn. There is such a video. A few months without Nazi propaganda and these same people look different.
    36. 0
      29 September 2022 11: 53
      What are they needed for? Take parasites on your grub?

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