At night, with the help of Geran-2 drones, regular strikes were inflicted on enemy targets in Odessa and the region

At night, another strike was carried out against enemy targets in Odessa using Geran-2 loitering ammunition. At the same time, the Ukrainian command is now implementing a new directive, stating that all these Drones were allegedly shot down by anti-aircraft weapons. These statements are refuted by local residents and even proteges of Kyiv itself in Odessa.

So, the head of the Odessa administration, representing the Kyiv regime in this region, Maxim Marchenko, confirmed the information that the drones defeated objects in the city and the region. According to him, "an infrastructure facility has been destroyed." However, Marchenko does not specify what object is being discussed in this case.

Earlier, we recall, loitering ammunition hit the headquarters of the operational command "South", a facility on the territory of the seaport, where the planning of operations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was carried out using Western naval drones. Also, several high-speed boats of the Ukrainian forces were destroyed and, according to some reports, directly naval drones supplied by NATO countries.

Earlier it was reported that air defense over the Odessa region “during the night shot down all three Iranian drone"(In Ukraine, the Geran-2 UAV is identified as the Iranian Shahed-136). Marchenko says that one drone was shot down. According to him, "it is necessary to build a system to counter these aircraft."

Comments

[Normann]

I wonder why the drones that our troops needed were not purchased earlier.

[North Caucasus]

Why are they purchased? Are we already nothing at all? Can't we? I am glad, of course, that they finally got into the decision-making center.

[Frost]

Quote: North Caucasus

Are we already nothing at all? Can't we?

Under the Union, a huge Buran in an unmanned (automatic) flew into space and returned. Technology was. The money that the last 10 years have been spent on the development of UAVs has been corny plundered. Here is just one example:
"In 2011, the design bureau, then still called Sokol, won the competition for research work (R&D)" Altius-M. - reconnaissance, surveillance and even striking.The fact that the contract for several billion rubles eventually went to a relatively small Kazan bureau at that time caused serious surprise in the profile market.

Simonov's project did not work out. Our sources reported that the deadlines for research and development were disrupted, in 2014 the first flight of a prototype was to take place. Instead, it allegedly turned out only an “approach”, when the device barely got off the ground. As a result, the flight was postponed to 2015, the Ministry of Defense did not mind. And in 2018, the Design Bureau had to pass two "run-in" samples that passed all the checks. This did not happen.

At the same time, the Accounts Chamber joined in, which established a discrepancy in spending. Almost half of the 1 billion rubles under the first contract for research were allegedly taken offshore according to the following scheme: the design bureau ordered the development of composites from Miltek LLC, then, in turn, submitted a fictitious work, an act of completed work was affixed, the money was transferred.

Another episode was connected with the operational-tactical unmanned system of ground and air launch "Zenica", the cost of which was estimated at 800 million rubles. The contract was also worked out by OKB im. Simonov. The security forces allegedly suspected that 100 of them were embezzled in the form of subsidies by Gomzin and his accomplices, although according to the documents, the money went to the salaries of employees.

[Lech from Android.]

If there is no tangible result with such huge investments of the state in this matter, this is already a reason for the firing squad for all participants in these frauds with the state order.
It's time to put someone up against the wall.

[APASUS]

Quote: Hoarfrost

Under the Union, a huge Buran in an unmanned (automatic) flew into space and returned. Technology was.

That's when Hunchback's friends began to come to us in Perestroika, they first of all sawed up fundamental science, space, electronics for us

[BABAY22]

It's smart to invite comrades Gomzin & Co to the office and offer to pay for the current and future deliveries of Shahed and Mohajer drones to Iran from your own pocket.
To start.

[Normann]

It is better to hang on a birch for undermining the country's defense, alas, not those times ...

[Normann]

Hoarfrost (hoarfrost)

here is the answer to my question

[svp67]

Quote: Normann

I wonder why the drones that our troops needed were not purchased earlier.

But there were brave reports about readiness for everything ... As Shoigu said there, that the army was re-equipped by 70% with new and modernized equipment .... These 70% were especially visible in the early days of the NMD, when equipment fell into telephoto lenses, and massively still released in the USSR and still not modernized since then

[Normann]

Do you know how much old equipment is in warehouses? Was it necessary to use the latest weapons? In order to develop systems to counter this type of weapon? It's not made for that.

the enemy

. In the General Staff, people are clearly no more stupid than you and me.

[svp67]

Quote: Normann

Do you know how much old equipment is in warehouses?

Do you know that these warehouses, in the vast majority, were transferred for "outsourcing" and they are serviced by military-industrial complex enterprises

Quote: Normann

Was it necessary to use the latest weapons?

Yeah, that is, you now want to say that our units, staffed by contract soldiers, that is, read by professionals, were equipped according to the residual principle, with equipment still produced in the USSR and modernized. And where did those "70% new and non-modernized" go? Do you still remember that all our units were then in the European part, since last year they were concentrated for exercises?

Quote: Normann

In order to develop systems to counter this type of weapon

What are you saying .... That is, the mass of our equipment abandoned in the spring in the Kiev, Sumy, Chernihiv and Kharkov directions, and in the autumn in the Kharkov direction, inherited by the Ukrainians, among which there were single copies of what had just left the assembly line and arrived into the troops, it was a cunning deception operation ... A very interesting idea, very ...

Quote: Normann

In the General Staff, people are clearly no more stupid than you and me.

But who said ... No, there are very smart people there, but without a "spark". Modern Suvorovs and Rokossovskys are not visible

[pharmacist]

Sleepless nights in Odessa continued. The Armed Forces of Ukraine embraced a mass neurosis.

[mikh-korsakov]

Do you know what annoys me? Not that Iranian drones were purchased, as if Ukraine is fighting in all Ukrainian. It infuriates me that the activity of the RF Armed Forces is reported to us from Ukrainian sources. This leads to anecdotal consequences. A comparative analysis of the statements of the official circles of Ukraine and the Odessa governor is given. That during the Second World War they compared the statements of Goebbels and, say, the Gauleiter of East Prussia? There is zero information that allows people to assess the real achievements during the JWO. Unless, of course, we count the dull statements of our accountant, which themselves began to arouse distrust - indeed, so many tanks and aircraft were destroyed, and near Kharkov they were shamefully beaten in the teeth. Your balance does not fit in with the bulldozer, Mr. Konashenkov, they don’t regroup like that, but drape.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

It infuriates me that the activity of the RF Armed Forces is reported to us from Ukrainian sources. This leads to anecdotal consequences. A comparative analysis of the statements of the official circles of Ukraine and the Odessa governor is given.

Mmmm yes...
You will not envy Ukraine.

On the one hand, there are reports that everything has been shot down and killed - "Look how well our air defense works!"
On the other hand, there is a great desire to make oneself a victim. In order to be sorry, they would shed a tear and give something for poverty and bruised sides.

What to choose - they themselves do not know. And, just in case, they are now exhibited as such "beaten winners." And how long can you stand in such an absurd pose, upside down?
Bloomers won't tear - your legs will get tired ...

[mitroha]

Quote: Normann

I wonder why the drones that our troops needed were not purchased earlier.

Perhaps because someone cheated on someone's ears that we ourselves are about to start the release. And rumors about the capabilities of drones in the fight against NATO are greatly exaggerated. In the meantime, there is no one to fight with them. The usual bureaucratic razp.glidyaystvo, and sticky hands, which in this case, can be qualified as a betrayal. with appropriate deadlines.
But these are just my guesses.

[Egoza]

Marchenko says that one drone was shot down. According to him, "it is necessary to build a system to counter these aircraft."

Got it late! And what? They don't sell a "counteraction system" at Privoz? And you so hoped that you can buy!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Egoza

And what? They don't sell a "counteraction system" at Privoz?

Aunt Pesya from the third floor told her friend Aunt Raya that her neighbor's cousin had promised to bring a full suitcase of "countermeasure systems" from abroad. If you give her a good smile and tell her that Uncle Yosya really asked, then she will probably give in a couple at a good price "...

[Lech from Android.]

The main advantage of Geranium is the cheapness of the device.
One such drone worth ten thousand dollars destroys an American howitzer worth millions of dollars ... it is economically profitable to fight the United States like that ... the Americans will not have enough dollars and the Fed's printing press will break from such losses and strain.
It is not surprising that the Americans and their Ukronazi wards became so worried.
I wish our command to continue to act in the same spirit, beating the Pentagon on its own field.

[Uprun]

Iranian, Chinese, ours - what's the difference ...., it doesn’t matter now, the main thing is the result.

[Nexcom]

In the Second World War, our grandfathers used foreign weapons and equipment - they smashed the Nazis of Hitler and did not buzz - ours, not ours. Gives the opportunity to smash the enemy - that's okay. They also used captured weapons and equipment - no one was against it.

PS I will not give pictures - entire regiments were armed, for example, with captured tanks.

[taiga2018]

Maybe for the effect of surprise and greater efficiency, it's time to strike in broad daylight.

[kill the fascist]

It is less effective to use during the day - they rumble, are visually detected and can be shot down by both MANPADS and large-caliber rifles.

[Two]

More technology, good and powerful! So let's sow "Geranium" the entire Svidomo tribe! Each stoned Svidomo has a "Geranium"!

[Silver99]

Night attacks of "geraniums" are the most effective, it is almost impossible to shoot down, the target is hardly noticeable for air defense, but it is not visually visible, something is buzzing, and where you can figure it out until it crashes.

[tralflot1832]

The Armed Forces called them "Mopeds". But so far they are not very good with these "Mopeds".

[Arkady007]

And we can't do much on our own.
After the very successful introduction of outsourcing during the tenure of Serdyukov, Medvedev and the hedgehog, they were left without the production of means of production.
Now we are scooping up these achievements with a full spoon.

[Dmitry Karabanov]

This, of course, is good - but now the main threat is Kr. Liman. In fact, this is now Stalingrad for the entire Eastern Ukrainian grouping. And there the "Geranium" would be perfectly useful for the destruction of bridges and command posts.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

"Geranium" was great for destroying bridges

36 kg of explosives to destroy the bridge? Oh well. Himars has a warhead of 90 kg, plus the mass and unburned fuel, so for more than a month they hollowed out the Antonovsky bridge, spent dozens of missiles, which would eventually damage the canvas ...

[Scientist_]

Quote: Lech from Android.

If there is no tangible result with such huge investments of the state in this matter, this is already a reason for the firing squad for all participants in these frauds with the state order.
It's time to put someone up against the wall.

To do this, you need to take the conditional Winter. This someone gave hundreds of billions to Chubais for nanotechnology. And where are they, these nanotechnologies? It was certainly clear to everyone that they would not. And so we have almost everywhere.

[Vladimir Michailovich]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

"Geranium" was great for destroying bridges and checkpoints

You do not understand the essence of the issue - you need a powerful PR effect for the media with vidos and other things. And what a PR front line, no.

[Sergei N 58912062]

With love from Russia for the "brotherly" people!