US press: American MLRS HIMARS did not live up to the expectations of the Ukrainian military

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US press: American MLRS HIMARS did not live up to the expectations of the Ukrainian military

The American MLRS HIMARS, on which the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine pinned certain hopes, turned out to be useless in battles against the Russian army in the Donbass. According to the New York Times, the complex did not live up to the expectations of the Ukrainian military.

The American edition, referring to unnamed representatives of the Ukrainian army, writes that the expectations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the HIMARS rocket system turned out to be too high, it does not correspond to the statements that were made earlier. The MLRS turned out to be useless in battles against the allied forces in the Donbass, the Russians adapted to its use. The main purpose of HIMARS was to disrupt the supply of Russian troops and destroy military depots, but this task failed, the system could not cope with it.



As an example, the battles for Bakhmut (Artemovsk) are given, where the American MLRS were used specifically to cut off the supply routes of the advancing units of the allied forces, but this was not done, the supply of troops continues. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine believes that Russian troops have successfully adapted to the appearance of Western weapons in the Ukrainian army, in particular by redistributing warehouses and making them invulnerable.

The Ukrainian command in Bakhmut recently said that even the presence of US-supplied missile systems, known as HIMARS, could not significantly affect the supply lines of Russian troops.

- writes the New York Times, forgetting to mention that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are excellent at using MLRS data to strike civilian objects and cities.

It is worth noting that Kyiv has repeatedly sung praises of various foreign weapons, declaring that they will certainly help to "defeat" the Russian army. First it was the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drone, then the American M777 howitzer, after which the HIMARS MLRS appeared. Now we should expect the appearance of the next wunderwaffe, which will certainly help Kyiv turn the tide and go on the offensive.
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    1. +22
      27 September 2022 06: 35
      It did not live up to expectations, but enough blood was spoiled for us. And continues to do so.
      1. +10
        27 September 2022 06: 40
        Now we should expect the appearance of the next wunderwaffe, which will certainly help Kyiv turn the tide and go on the offensive.

        The painfully well-known analogy of 1944-45 with the expectation of a superweapon to defeat the USSR suggests itself ... Then it did not help and will not help now.
      2. +2
        27 September 2022 06: 41
        Quote: Lykases1
        It did not live up to expectations, but enough blood was spoiled for us. And continues to do so.

        As one football player said, your expectations are your problems. hi
    2. +10
      27 September 2022 06: 42
      This is pure propaganda: first Jevelins, then Bayraktars, Himers ...
      They need to convince the population of the "divine" power of NATO weapons. That only with him and thanks to him they will win, that the Russians don’t even have such a thing nearby ...
      The weapons supplied by the "collective West" are not bad, but nothing more ...
      1. +1
        27 September 2022 07: 07
        I read another source in the cart - they are quite satisfied. They demand to supply more. They complain that these installations are not enough for them
        1. +3
          27 September 2022 07: 15
          Quote: dmi.pris
          They demand to supply more. They complain that these installations are not enough for them

          Either they have not yet felt their insufficient usefulness, or the US has decided to cut supplies and the newspaper is preparing a "public opinion" for NATO allies. Like "they themselves refuse, so we don't send."
          1. -1
            28 September 2022 21: 28
            Quote: Egoza
            or the US has decided to cut supplies and the newspaper is preparing "public opinion" for NATO allies. Like "they themselves refuse, so we don't send."

            Well, yes, only 18 more units were agreed for delivery ...
            They didn't, of course. And mobilization in the Russian Federation from the plans of the Pentagon torn to shreds.
            Chew on this noodle...
        2. +3
          27 September 2022 07: 47
          It seems that the states have decided to limit the supply. Here is the relevant article. If you don't like it, there will be no deliveries.
          1. -2
            27 September 2022 08: 00
            No, you can’t limit it. There is a war going on until the last Khokhloutyrka
          2. -1
            28 September 2022 21: 30
            Dear man, the other day the next aid package from the USA for 1,1 billion will be announced. There are just new HILMARS
      2. Mwg
        +3
        27 September 2022 07: 40
        "They need to convince the population of the" divine "power of NATO weapons." - the funny thing is that you don't need to convince anyone. They still sincerely believe that everything American is the best. And not only there. In all former republics, any average citizen thinks so. Well, in the authorities, of course, too. Remember the President of Turkmenistan
        https://tsargrad.tv/news/popal-vo-vse-chto-bylo-on-vystrelom-s-ruki-prezident-turkmenii-demonstriruet-navyki-rjembo-video_152873
    3. +8
      27 September 2022 06: 44
      The American MLRS HIMARS, on which the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine pinned certain hopes, turned out to be useless in battles against the Russian army in the Donbass.

      But they perfectly hit civilian objects ... hotels, kindergartens, residential buildings with the death of civilians ... I will never forgive the United States for this.
    4. Two
      +4
      27 September 2022 06: 45
      hi At first, ours somehow fell into a stupor. But later, having unwound the characteristics and catching the physics of the action, they began to intercept the flying "millions of dollars", minimizing the damage caused by these "toys". The standing bridge is proof of this.
      1. -1
        28 September 2022 21: 30
        The standing corpse somehow does not count. There is no supply for it. And the flying hats of the turbopatriots have already been taken out.
    5. +3
      27 September 2022 06: 45
      No weapon other than a nuclear one can solve all problems, only as a set. And Ukraine does not have this kit, thank God.
      1. Mwg
        +1
        27 September 2022 07: 38
        No need about nuclear weapons, trouble would not be called.
        1. +3
          27 September 2022 07: 53
          Quote: MVG
          No need about nuclear weapons, trouble would not be called.

          the trouble has already come .. and has been knocking for a long time. And he will leave only with the threat of a nuclear defeat of the United States. It will only end with this. Because besides the Ukrainians there are also Poles, then the unemployed Germans will ripen. The United States is only afraid of a nuclear retaliation, everything else suits them, moreover, this is all according to their plans.
          1. Mwg
            +4
            27 September 2022 08: 04
            I support every word. But there is one BUT. If there is a nuclear provocation in Ukraine, ours will be forced to make excuses and prove that this is not Russia. No one will dare to silently unload nuclear weapons on the heads of the United States. These things need to be carefully planned in advance. I already wrote here that I would, for example, arrange an underwater explosion close to the territorial waters of the United States, and then apologize, directly to all the world's media: "Sorry, it's our top-secret nuclear robot that ran away to perform the task, they barely stopped it" . This is where they would sweat. And they do not believe in words for a long time because of their idea of ​​their exclusivity. Well, they are celestials, "but what are we for ?!"
    6. +3
      27 September 2022 06: 58
      In fact, the use of our and their MLRS is different. We have areas (warehouses, strongholds are better suited for this ...), they have point targets (bridges, schools, individual buildings ...)
      1. Mwg
        +4
        27 September 2022 07: 36
        "...separate buildings..." - kindergartens, railway stations, administrations of the liberated territories, infrastructure facilities, residential buildings...
      2. 0
        27 September 2022 09: 44
        On bridges, it’s not very good, however. For residential areas - quite.
        Launch several hundred kilobucks in one gulp to kill a couple of pensioners... wouldn't it be better to hire a good killer? It'll be a lot cheaper.
      3. +1
        27 September 2022 11: 23
        They don't seem to be for bridges. warehouses, accumulations of military equipment and personnel, etc. hi
    7. +6
      27 September 2022 06: 59
      I read the article in the original. What we have in italics is correct. But this is only one paragraph.
    8. +5
      27 September 2022 07: 01
      Hymars may not have justified the expectations of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but he drank a lot of our blood.
    9. +6
      27 September 2022 07: 03
      There is no superweapon. What a surprise!! All modern mythology, from Hollywood and comics, which has firmly taken over the world, is against this strange conclusion. Damn reality has again interfered with the solid and indestructible world of a Hollywood fairy tale, in which billions of people now live. Emerging into a despicable reality only for bread)
      Yes, we will have to fight ourselves. Fight, die and get injured of varying severity. Howling in pain, cursing everything in the world, going crazy ... otherwise nothing. This world is not invented by us. Ours did the right thing by replacing Western mercenaries. As many Western dreamers as possible must go through the meat grinder. To remember what real war is. There is a slim chance that they will wake up there a bit. And then they began to play very carelessly with general suicide, the use of nuclear weapons.
      Alas, there is little chance that the Ukrainians will wake up. Very, very sorry...
    10. +1
      27 September 2022 07: 24
      A bad dancer, as they say ... But seriously, the hit accuracy of these MLRS is, of course, just excellent, you need to get into the market, they get into the market, you need to get into the hotel, then you will get and sign Zhuravko killed who greatly annoyed the Kyiv authorities.
      1. 0
        27 September 2022 11: 40
        Zhuravko was most likely hit because he was highlighted.
    11. Mwg
      0
      27 September 2022 07: 30
      "... the complex did not live up to the expectations of the Ukrainian military." - laughed for a long time. It is the Americans who are faced with the traditional Ukrainian approach of recent times: they cover up their hand-to-hand by instantly finding the guilty on the side. Wait, they will still show you for inaccurate shooting and too high-calorie dry rations. It is time to recall the downed civilian flight to Israel and the ship pierced by a missile during the exercises. This is not Alabama, this is Ukraine, baby! Change shoes in the jump there are masters of the divine level))))))))))
    12. 0
      27 September 2022 08: 08
      The further supply of the latest weapons to the outskirts attracts more Nata specialists, and they are also knocked out ...., it is problematic to train specialists in a short time, and Nata will not give any super waffle into the hands of the heroes .... until the black bags are in fashington go in small batches, until.... And it looks comical...., do you have anything cooler than chimars?
    13. 0
      27 September 2022 08: 47
      Or maybe a new deity is being prepared: the holy Javelin, the almighty Bayraktar, the great Hymers, what's next?
      1. +1
        27 September 2022 09: 45
        Now the politicians and the military are begging for Leopards, F-16s and Patriots. It is said that only with this weapon they will be able to win.
        After this does not help, only aircraft carriers and nuclear missiles will remain ...
    14. 0
      27 September 2022 09: 23
      APU expectations from the HIMARS jet system turned out to be too high, it does not correspond to those statements 
      they are completely detached from reality and live in dreams. Ever since they flooded against Russia. And Suvorov also said about superweapons, and since then nothing has changed in this area - Russian miracle heroes.
    15. +2
      27 September 2022 09: 41
      They begin to rely heavily on wunderwaffles when things at the front do not go the way they wanted.
      Good soldiers know how to win with ordinary "waffles", without any "wunder" ... soldier
    16. SSA
      -1
      27 September 2022 10: 46
      Hymars is a very serious weapon, even in a truncated version, 80 km, it does significant damage. And in terms of accuracy of impact, SD surpasses a tornado and a hurricane.

      A likeness of Baraktar, we still can't make it.

      Javelins are worse than ours, only in price. But the tanks are burning from them, only on the way.

      Almost all NATO artillery is superior in range to Russian. I'm not talking about the number of corrected shells that the West supplies.
      We leave, only on the number of equipment and on the preparedness of the troops. But this is for now...

      Hooray patriotism is the last thing needed now
    17. 0
      29 September 2022 00: 27
      The effectiveness of chimeras has been proven. There is nothing to cast a shadow on the wattle fence. Another thing is if the Ukrainians thought to win the war with its help. People win the war.

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