Russian tactical nuclear weapons

152-mm artillery shell 3VB3 with a container for transportation. Photo Picssr.com

The nuclear powers are armed with atomic munitions of various categories and for various purposes. In particular, the so-called. tactical nuclear weapon. These are low-power special ammunition designed for use at the tactical level - literally on the battlefield or in the near rear of the enemy. According to various estimates, Russia has the largest stocks of such weapons in the world.

At the tactical level

As the name implies, tactical nuclear weapons (TNW) include special ammunition intended for use at the operational-tactical level. In addition, the delivery vehicles and carriers of such weapons are tactical systems and complexes operated in different branches of the military.

Various objects, etc. are considered as targets for TNW. in the zone of destruction of tactical weapons. These can be troops in concentration areas and in positions, headquarters and command posts, positions of launchers and various complexes, military and dual-use facilities, etc.

203-mm self-propelled gun 2S7M "Malka". Its ammunition load may include special projectiles. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

The nature of such targets makes it possible to effectively solve the problem with a relatively low power of the ammunition. Most of the known tactical charges have a yield of hundreds of tons of TNT (in fact, the lower limit of the power of a nuclear device) to tens of kilotons. The most powerful example of TNW is the American B61 thermonuclear bomb. Some of its modifications are designed for a yield of 300-340 kt, and in this respect a tactical bomb is similar to a mass of strategic warheads.

The limited power of a nuclear charge makes it possible to reduce the size and weight of the ammunition as a whole, ensuring compatibility with different carriers. The lightest and most compact types of tactical nuclear weapons are special artillery shells. In our country, such ammunition was carried out in calibers from 152 mm. Larger warheads for ballistic and cruise missiles of different classes were also created. Aviation bombs were suggested.

Mortar 2S4 "Tulip". In the 240 mm caliber, there were or are several nuclear mines. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

It should be noted that the production and deployment of tactical nuclear weapons is not limited by any documents and rules - with the exception of the Non-Proliferation Treaty and agreements on delivery vehicles. Thanks to this, the nuclear powers can produce and keep on duty any required amount of tactical munitions. In addition, there is no need to report on such weapons to anyone.

Russian secrets

In our country, the development of tactical nuclear weapons began in the fifties, shortly after the first successes in the field of strategic systems. Within a decade, all major branches of the armed forces received their tactical ammunition. In the future, science and industry created new generations of products, and, apparently, work on tactical nuclear weapons continues to this day. However, due to the specifics of this topic, there is no open information about the developments of the last decades; there are gaps in the previous stories directions.

There is no precise information on the current state of Russian TNW arsenals. There are only various estimates and forecasts, which may differ from the real indicators both up and down. For example, the Federation of American Scientists (FAS) estimates that the Russian military has nearly 6 tactical nuclear weapons. The total stocks of tactical nuclear weapons in NATO countries are approximately at the same level.

Loading a rocket on the Iskander OTRK launcher. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

It is not known what types of 6 thousand special products belong to and for which troops they are intended. According to various estimates, the previous approach to completing such arsenals has not changed. If necessary, TNW can be used in the form of large-caliber artillery shells, aerial bombs and missiles of various types of various bases.

Aviation munitions

The first domestic samples of tactical nuclear weapons were developed for front-line aviation. It was combat aircraft that could carry and use imperfect early products with sufficiently large dimensions and weight. Later it was possible to reduce the dimensions of the bombs without loss in power. So, by the beginning of the sixties, a bomb in caliber 500 kg could carry a warhead with a capacity of 5-10 kt. There were opportunities for further performance improvement.

According to fragmentary data, free-falling or guided nuclear bombs are still in service with the Russian Aerospace Forces. They are made in the standard size of conventional ammunition and can be used by different carriers. At the same time, the Su-34 bomber or the Su-25 attack aircraft needs some special control devices to use them.

Tactical nuclear bomb "224N" / RN-24 with a capacity of 5 kt. Photo militaryrussia.ru

According to some estimates, some types of air-to-surface missiles can also be delivery vehicles for tactical nuclear weapons. For example, it was proposed to inscribe a nuclear charge with a capacity of several kilotons into the body of the X-59 rocket, which is distinguished by its large dimensions and mass. Such a missile could be used by front-line and long-range bombers.

Land weapons

For the missile forces and artillery of the ground forces, a fairly wide range of tactical nuclear weapons in various designs was created in the past. The first in this area were predictably large-caliber artillery shells with a capacity of 1-3 kt. With the development of technology, the caliber of such ammunition has been reduced to 152 mm. In parallel, systems and projectiles / mines with a caliber of up to 420 mm were developed.

According to known data, several modern domestic artillery systems at once have at least the theoretical possibility of using nuclear projectiles. So, 152-mm shells of the type 3VB3, 3VB6, etc. with a power of not more than 1-2 kt can be used by the Msta-S / B or Hyacinth-S / B guns. For the 203-mm "Peony" / "Malki" shots were created, known by the codes "Sapling" and "Kleschevina". The 240-mm mortar 2S4 "Tulip" can use mines 3VB4 and 3VB11 with a capacity of 2 kt.

A Su-34 bomber drops a KAB-500S bomb. The use of tactical nuclear weapons looks similar. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

All domestic tactical and operational-tactical missile systems, starting with 2K1 "Mars", had the ability to use nuclear warheads. It is reliably known that the Tochka-U OTRK, which was decommissioned in the recent past, could use similar combat equipment.

The current status of tactical nuclear weapons in the field of OTRK is unknown. Previously, it was repeatedly reported about the fundamental possibility of creating a special warhead for missiles of the Iskander complex, ballistic and cruise. Whether these ideas were implemented is not clear.

Naval atom

The navy also received its tactical nuclear weapons. Until a certain time, much attention was paid to the development of torpedoes and depth charges with special warheads. Nuclear warheads were also installed on missiles of various types. The last known means of delivering tactical nuclear weapons for the Navy was the S-10 Granat missile, which was decommissioned in 1989. It carried a 200 kt charge, sufficient to destroy an entire ship detachment.

Launch missiles "Caliber" in non-nuclear equipment. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

There is currently no exact information about the presence of tactical nuclear weapons in service with the Navy. At the same time, there are fundamental opportunities for its implementation and use for various purposes. For example, in the past it was reported that the Caliber cruise missile could carry both conventional and special warheads. However, the Russian Navy, fulfilling existing agreements, does not use nuclear cruise missiles on surface ships.

An unclear situation has developed in the field of torpedo weapons. 650-mm nuclear-powered torpedoes were withdrawn from service in the XNUMXs. Nothing is known about a modern replacement for them, even if it was developed and entered service.

For combat and containment

Thus, over the past few decades, the Soviet and then the Russian army has been armed with a wide range of tactical nuclear weapons. This category includes ammunition of different classes for various carriers and delivery vehicles available in all major branches of the armed forces.

Tactical nuclear bombs, missiles, projectiles and various types can seriously affect the course of a battle or operation, as well as cause serious damage to the enemy. For this reason, TNW is a highly effective means of reinforcing conventional forces and means for special situations. In addition, it can be considered not only as a weapon for combat, but also as a means of deterrence. In this role, it can effectively complement strategic and other means and systems.

Comments

[Borik]

What nonsense with a caption under the photo. What Iskanders are on the ships ??

[Gado]

Launch missiles "Caliber" in non-nuclear equipment.

On the last photo. Where did you see the Iskander?

[Borik]

They have already corrected the inscription, and before that it was written - Launch of Iskander missiles in non-nuclear equipment

[Gado]

Understood. Not the first time, but quickly fixed.

[Dmitry Karabanov]

It is clear from the article that nothing is clear. I think our "peacekeepers" the tagged bear and the drunken wrestler destroyed the Soviet stockpile of tactical nuclear weapons to the maximum. Surely something managed to be saved - but I would not like to see their use!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

our "peacekeepers" the tagged bear and the drunken wrestler destroyed the Soviet stock of tactical nuclear weapons to the maximum.

You are absolutely right! The world has never seen such a "nuclear streptiza" that our perestroikas and liberoids have arranged. So, according to the agreement on the reduction of tactical nuclear weapons, it was supposed to reduce:
USA - 3000 units. SBP (1300 artillery shells, more than 800 BGs from OTR LANS and about 900 SBP units of the Navy - depth bombs, BZO, etc., etc.
USSR - 13700(!) units! including 400BG OTR, 2000 nuclear. shells, 700 poison. land mines, 1500 BG for missiles, 3500 av. bombs, 1000 units. BG for NK and submarines of the Navy, 1000 units. BG for MRA...
Gorby, burn in hell! spared nothing to please the States... The spotted combine operator organized the harvest of the SBP of our Armed Forces to the fullest!!!

[tralflot1832]

Just solid questions. This is not 1980 in the GSVG, where targets are not measured during an offensive. But in Ukraine. Who gives the order to use nuclear weapons. The battery commander? Or who is taller? put a projectile into milk? There is a war going on BTG, and spend a vigorous loaf on them? Yes, try to hit them if they crawl for 1 km. it’s a Dagger with Iskander, too. Here in Europe you can have fun, ruin logistics. So that once there’s a hell of a lot and there is no multi-level interchange, there’s no fucking airfield, there’s no fucking half of the capital. A vigorous loaf is not alcohol, which is drunk with an increase in the degree. First, it is not diluted with alcohol (SYaS) and then beer (TNS). But not vice versa, you think it will hurt your head in the morning. play a prelude, all the same, after the strategic nuclear forces there will be strategic nuclear forces.

[hagen]

Quote: tralflot1832

I don’t see any targets in Ukraine for TY, except for the Beskyd tunnel and the bridges on the border

Here you have named the main goals. It is enough to make the border crossings of Ukraine impassable in terms of the level of radiation, and in a couple of weeks the Armed Forces of Ukraine will run out of means of armed struggle. There is no point in continuing further. And delivery by air to the place of application can be carried out in a few hours.

[TEX-50]

Radiation levels will drop in a week. In addition, the border can not only be crossed at the border crossing.

[NG inform]

Radiation is not an actual obstacle. Lock yourself in a car with a filter and go wherever you want, even in a nuclear mushroom.
And you need to bomb Poland and Germany, not Ukraine.

[Biggi_2006]

what is the level of radiation from 1 kt of ammunition?

[Sergey Averchenkov]

You are a little unaware, where this ammunition fell, life is impossible for decades. If only dozens ... Although I am not a nuclear specialist, I could be wrong.

[TEX-50]

Impossible for trillions of years. Where do you take all this, these fairy tales?

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Where do I get it?.. Fuck knows, probably from Chernobyl. And what? Did I say something wrong? Well, go to Chernobyl and live there. Have kids there.

[TEX-50]

That's how people live there. And they live near Fukushima. No, I understand that you yourself don’t understand even close, but why broadcast nonsense like a parrot?

How did people live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki after the war???

Or here, Oppenheimer et al., a little less than two months later at the epicenter of Trinity:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Trinity_Test_-_Oppenheimer_and_Groves_at_Ground_Zero_001.jpg

[TEX-50]

Don't believe in what? That Hiroshima is a metropolis? Or that people live in the exclusion zone? Are there any animals there? That people live near Fukushima? That in the village of Muslyumovo people lived for decades after the Kyshtym accident, until they were resettled? What else do you not believe in? Aren't you tired of carrying this x **** that one?

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I believe in what I saw. And what I know. Our pilots flew in from Chernobyl with protection. And do you know what the protection was? Thin lead plate. On the seat. Would you fly? I think no. Do you want to prove to me that tactical nuclear weapons are applicable? So I'm just happy. screw around Ukraine is sacred.

[TEX-50]

I look not tired yet to carry x **** that. I'm not proving anything to you at all. The United States has proven that nuclear weapons are fully applicable.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I am pleased to..........................

[Andriuha077]

The Hiroshima tram network features a wide variety of rolling stock. It simultaneously uses modern articulated trains, and archaic pre-war cars.
A very interesting fact: some of the trams that survived the atomic bombing were restored and are still in use today.
Tram car No. 651 after the atomic bombing on August 9, 1945
Car #651 that survived the atomic bombing and car #652 of the same type. Photo from 2006, both cars are still in use today.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroshima_tram

[TEX-50]

Come on, tram or Chernobyl. Read how people lived in Muslyumovo, cattle grazed in the floodplain of the river flowing from the Mayak software. Decades. The story is much more instructive than Hiroshima and Chernobyl.

By the way, the study of the experience of Chernobyl (and the consequences of the Kyshtym accident, the drying up of Karachay and, of course, the experience of observing the harvesters of Muslyumov) lowered the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons in the sense that the radioactive contamination of the area and its consequences in fact turned out to be not as detrimental as expected in 40-70- th years of the last century.

[bk316]

So what?

And what
1. There was no nuclear explosion in Chernobyl.
2. In Chernobyl, the analogue is not a tactical nuclear weapon, but a dirty bomb
3. Chernobyl corresponds not to one dirty bomb, but to hundreds.

[stankow]

Thank God you are wrong. Right Away after an air strike by tactical nuclear weapons on a battalion stronghold, a reinforced tank regiment is introduced in the resulting gap to build on success. Tanks and infantry fighting vehicles overcome the loading zone with closed hatches and switched on HVU. Half an hour after the strike, you can go on foot, in the satellite.

[54 street]

I'm in the know. And he served in the Strategic Missile Forces and studied at the military department on the topic. After the use of a nuclear device, there will be destruction. There will be interference. There will be infection. But, all this will not prevent you from moving further around the territory. Doesn't it bother you that the delivery vehicle is an artillery shell, or a mortar? It's not such a huge distance. They give you pills. OZK. And go ahead. then they will process you and the equipment. And continue to fight. But, with caution. Dosimeters will be issued. Keep track of your accumulated dose. And wash your hands.

[NG inform]

This is nonsense, and comparing a nuclear bomb with Chernobyl is stupid. Chernobyl is the equivalent of a hundred thousand atomic bombs.

[stankow]

The order to use tactical nuclear weapons is given by the commander. With the permission of the supreme. The commander of the firing battery receives a considerable group of specialists in nuclear weapons. The code should be brought by a responsible officer with the rank of colonel. Responsible is not an easy task. Thank God there is no need for SVO. And it won't.

[zenion]

During the service, they decided to create an army group trained to deal with nuclear and chemical destruction zones. Gathered in a group from different parts for training. We were trained by the military dressed in overalls, they did not see the rank. For three days we were persistently taught what it is. They showed a film, how the bomb is arranged and how many different things there are and in what form, but this is secret. Then they handed out special suits, plastic syringes and so on. Then something banged, a mushroom appeared. Dosimeters measured how much radiation there was. After a while, they put us in cars and drove to the center, where this thing took off. We've done everything we've been taught. Then cars like firefighters drove up, doused the cars and us with liquid. We took off our costumes and poured water over us again. Rested, who smoked, who just chattered, exchanged opinions. There was a hillock and our teacher settled down on it and lit a cigarette, and the boys sat down. I ask him. Here in the Army there are means of protection, but what will happen to civilians, what will happen to the people. And he answered - nothing will happen, I'm worried about them. We have a very large family and relatives. God forbid, if this happens, as we practiced it, then there will be no point in the army. There won't be anyone. You need to live somewhere. If someone survives, it will affect generations. No one knows what will happen to them and no one wants to talk about it.

[NG inform]

The fact is that about 15% of the territory of Russia, Europe and the United States will be affected, and then there will be a real war in all possible ways. Moreover, all kinds of Asians will actively join this mess, who will no longer be threatened by anything.
This will be an epochal redistribution of the world, and if someone takes over, he will become the king of the mountain. In 20 years, the radiation will subside (except for the places around the old nuclear power plants) and one person will control the whole world. It's worth it, really - and the Americans are heading straight for it. Time plays on them, so they are softening the opponents for now, but if they decide that it is time, they will hit us right away.
By the way, all our missile defense systems become obsolete with the advent of hypersonic gliders - so it might make sense for us to strike first.

[SovAr238A]

The author is doing crazy things again.
He is completely unaware of the Wo-Know agreement.
We exported to the USA about 500 tons of weapons-grade uranium after processing. This, according to some sources, took about 20 real nuclear warheads.
Now think about what we could have left in the bins ...

[TEX-50]

Well, for example, 50-70 tons of plutonium could remain. And how much uranium ... novernyak five times more.

[merkava-2bet]

Not uranium, but weapons-grade plutonium, which is even more expensive.

[TEX-50]

Uranium, not plutonium. Plutonium was never transferred to the states.

[Maks1995]

Judging by the wave of articles about nuclear weapons, the Kremlin may well decide to hit Yao in Ukraine.

[iouris]

"The shaft of articles" are alarmists.
We are fighting not with Ukraine, but for Ukraine against the US and its satellites. It makes no sense to first use nuclear weapons somewhere in Europe to defeat the US and Britain. But they can strike or imitate the use of nuclear weapons.

[zenion]

Beautiful type - we are not burning the hospital, but the Ministry of Health.

[TEX-50]

imitate? How is that, sorry? Multi-gasoline blow up?

[stankow]

Maks1995 Horror stories for the Western tradesman. Moreover, they frighten him from both countries. There is no need for tactical nuclear weapons in the NWO.

[Aviator_]

"Sapling" and "Kleschevina"

Good names. Only "Kleshchevina" has a more appropriate name - castor oil.

[Sergey Obraztsov]

Extremely superficial. Neither the calibers in the nuclear version are mentioned (which also fly much further due to the reduction in warhead mass) nor the x102 missiles ..

[Sergey Valov]

In principle, there can be no serious article on this topic. And if on trifles, then anti-aircraft missiles with nuclear warheads are not mentioned. Not a word about nuclear mines, but they were, I don’t know how they are now.

[TEX-50]

Calibers in the nuclear version, this is a strategic nuclear weapon.

[Nikolaevich I]

There is such an interesting concept as "<clean> thermonuclear charges" ... Everyone knows how to make them, but they can't! For a thermonuclear bonba to work, they use a nuclear (plutonium) "fuse" ... hence the radiation and radioactive contamination of the area, characteristic of a "classic" nuclear weapon ... If it were possible to "detonate" a hydrogen bonbu in some other way (we need a "millionth" temperature and high pressure ...), then it will be a "clean" TNW, "free" from the restrictions and prohibitions characteristic of "traditional" nuclear (plutonium / uranium) weapons ...

[TEX-50]

"Pure" is just a conventional name and nothing more. In the strict sense, pure nuclear weapons do not exist and cannot exist. In "pure" there is no last stage of division (significantly increasing power). Everything else, fragments of the trigger division, aiming from the second stage, is preserved.

[vadimtt]

Well, and everything "clean" easily becomes super-dirty if you detonate not at the optimal height of 500-800m (for 400kt), but on the surface of the earth or even a little lower

[TEX-50]

The "optimality" of the height of the explosion is determined by the task. Very often the optimal height can be negative. No one will look at the consequences here at all, if it has come to the use of nuclear weapons. Moreover, you can still put on a cobalt cover on top and arrange a contact detonation, especially if it is far from your loved one.

Only dirtier than this is to shoot at the loaded nuclear power plant spent fuel pool.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

"<pure> thermonuclear charges"... Everyone knows how to make them, but they can't!

Quote: TEX-50

In the strict sense, pure nuclear weapons do not exist and cannot exist.

And yet... the Yankees (and us, too!) are working on it. Pundits see the way out in using as a trigger ... HIGH ENERGY LASER! But this cannot yet constructively fit in the nuclear warhead in the "transport" version. But it should be recalled that the Americans blew up their first thermonuclear device in the form of a concrete cube with a side of 9x9x9m! And now this wave is a transportable device of acceptable dimensions. Progress, mother! What can you do to better control a homo sapiens, just like you !!!
So, "never say NEVER!" (With)
AHA.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

The pundits see the way out in using as a trigger ... HIGH ENERGY LASER!

And not just lasers! Here they are trying to use supercapacitor batteries with a load on the thinnest metal "wires" ... and "explosive magnetic" generators (they are also "shock wave emitters" ... "explosive wave emitters" ...) There were attempts (I I know Soviet experiments ...) apply shaped charges! Returning to wave emitters, one can find statements on the Internet that it is still possible to make a "pure fusion" using such an emitter, but it will have a capacity of 3 tons of TNT in the size (weight) of a 3-ton high-explosive bomb ... Change the awl for soap? But how to say ... the radius of destruction of manpower by such a neutron bomb is 500 meters ...

[Osipov9391]

And what is the hint? Now everywhere on the Internet this topic is inflated.
If someone is going to apply it in Ukraine, then this is an incident-white situation right away.
There is the Nonproliferation Treaty, there is the Budapest Memorandum where the USSR and Russia
signed that the use of nuclear weapons of any kind was not against non-nuclear
state is not allowed.
Here. This is the basis of the deterrence factor and the entire world security.
Therefore, in case of a hypothetical nuclear attack on Ukraine by Russia (even without casualties, purely symbolic), other nuclear powers that signed these treaties (the United States and Great Britain) will be obliged to transfer their tactical charges to Ukraine.
Equal quantity and power.
And suggest equal goals. Most likely, the territory of Russia will not be touched, but the concentrations of our troops in the Donbass or Kherson will most likely be hit.

[TEX-50]

A hint that everyone should be scared. In the sense of the collective West. But he should have been scared half a year ago to trembling in the knees, and still nothing.

[TEX-50]

These are all scribbles. They can melt the stove and wipe your ass. No West will ever enter into a nuclear conflict protecting even Poland. And Ukraine for them is just third-class fighting meat, nothing more.

[Cowbra]

The author correctly mentioned one problem, that tactical nuclear weapons are not actually regulated by any international treaties. In vain, I didn’t expand on the topic, that for example, mattresses have been screaming for a long time and strenuously, they say, it’s not scary for tactical nuclear weapons, there are conventional means of destruction and more serious. in terms of power - so that tactical nuclear weapons can be used, if necessary. Yeah, let's say an explosion of tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of the Russian Federation - but hardly anyone will figure it out, the command "key to start" will sound! After us - silence! And who needs it? These are two lines from a song, such an unofficial anthem of the Strategic Missile Forces
And in general, mattresses need to understand that it used to be that Russians used to hug a birch tree and cry quietly, now they hug Poplar and giggle maliciously. Korsun's phrase, Strategic Missile Forces, by the way, he is at least a punk, spartach and slob)

[Osipov9391]

I wrote above that there is a Non-Proliferation Treaty signed by the nuclear powers and the Budapest Memorandum.
It's all about those topics.
In short, the use by a nuclear power of any kind of nuclear weapon against a non-nuclear state is unacceptable and is punishable by other nuclear powers that signed these agreements.
It cannot be otherwise. This is the basis of all world security.

[Cowbra]

If my sclerosis does not change me - exactly how it is punished - it is not written ... Explain, or did you understand?
Yes, and against a nuclear state ... You do not understand what I wrote above?

[TEX-50]

Yeah, so I just imagine that 200 kt was shied away, and there is no Kyiv. And then all in a crowd, the United States, Britain and France begin to substitute their countries for MRNU.

How is it possible to discuss all these scribbles in serious cabbage soup?

[composite]

Quote: TEX-50

Yeah, so I just imagine that 200 kt was shied away, and there is no Kyiv. And then all in a crowd, the United States, Britain and France begin to substitute their countries for MRNU.

How is it possible to discuss all these scribbles in serious cabbage soup?

This cantracht calls it:
advetstvinnyst staron punht.
Al are you chromeless??

[TEX-50]

It's called scribbles. Which no one will fulfill, given the subject of the scribbles themselves.

[Osipov9391]

About the response from the nuclear powers to a nuclear attack by a non-nuclear state, it is understood that the transfer to the country that fell under the attack of its nuclear weapons is at its disposal.
In the case of Ukraine, it will be easy and simple to do this by canceling the Budapest Memorandum and returning its nuclear status.
And these are not "scribbles" but the cornerstone of all world security today!
And therefore, if the country that violates these dogmas is not tripled "public flogging", then the next day the world will begin a general mess and vacillation.
Realizing that it is possible and necessary to do this, and in response there will be nothing, the same DPRK attacks its non-nuclear neighbors - Japan and South Korea. Iran attacks Israel, India attacks Pakistan. China attacks Taiwan.
And it will really be a world nuclear war.
Nobody needs this.
Therefore, the answer will be the same. Perhaps presented under the sauce of "achievements of Ukrainian science and the military-industrial complex."

PS

A nuclear attack on Kyiv will immediately hit foreign embassies and, according to international standards, will be equated with a nuclear attack on certain countries. With the declaration of war on Russia.

[TEX-50]

No Western country will ever hand over nuclear weapons to its satellite. Under no circumstances is this possible. Not only for political (which would seem obvious to any sane person) reasons, but also for technical ones. This is basically impossible.

The most they can do is to bring nuclear weapons to the territory of the protected state and use it themselves. This is even more impossible, because neither France, nor Britain, nor the United States will ever substitute their territories under the MRNA for the suffering of some Bulgaria or Poland. And even more so Ukraine.

[Osipov9391]

Missiles ATACMS forgotten? Do you think they do not exist with a nuclear charge?
Exist. All OTRKs are made with such care.
And no one from Russia will be the first to launch any nuclear strikes against NATO countries - these are immediately disarming strikes against us from SSBNs of the USA, Great Britain, France from advanced positions with flat volleys.
That's all.

[TEX-50]

We definitely have SBC for all OTRK. But in the USA it is very doubtful, given the degradation of the nuclear weapons complex over the past 30 years and how long the B61 modernization took. But, if it is necessary to develop, I will do it quickly. Like a prototype. But they won’t put them in the series in the near future, even though they will be killed. They need to produce 30 pits a year by the 80th year, and the deadlines are constantly shifting to the right. The main reason is the lack of personnel. Until they increase funding, increase attractiveness, until they train new personnel, a lot of time will pass

[Osipov9391]

The United States (and countries operating ATACMS like Britain) definitely have some tactical charges. Suitable for installation on these OTRK. Provided by design.
And then, if we allow the theoretical transfer of such a "hotel" to a third country, then this is just a package for Himars. Only from below, not 6 rings are visible, but one large one in the center. There are no other differences.
Well, the markings on it are somewhat different. It may be a different color or with some letter at the end of the name. Here.
And everything else is the same as in the usual ATACMS.
Only probably additional codes are introduced to unlock the 10-50 kT charge detonation system.
Maybe several detonation capacities are introduced. And that's all.
And any country using Himars and MLRS is easy to deal with.
Well, of course, the coordinates of the target will be thrown to her from the satellite.

[TEX-50]

What does "some" mean. American TNW - B61 bombs of various modifications. They have no other tactical nuclear weapons, just as there are no physical packages for ATACMS. No need to invent extra entities.

And then if we allow the theoretical transfer of such a "hotel" to a third country

And then, if we allow the help of reptilians from the planet Nebiru .... Not tired yet?

[TEX-50]

TNW does not correlate with power in any way. TNW can be of any reasonable power. TNW is the delivery radius!

[Cowbra]

Will you croak that there was no such promise from the United States to put tactical nuclear weapons on Minetmen?!

[TEX-50]

TNW cannot be placed on Minutemen. Learning to read. Or we ask dad to read and explain what he read, if he himself is not able to.

[Cowbra]

Quote: TEX-50

TNW cannot be placed on Minutemen

Vyunosh, you're just technically uneducated!
At least you will catch up with the fact that strategic aviation - it can carry tactical nuclear weapons, no questions asked - and then shove your fabrications about the "delivery radius"

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Cowbra

that strategic aviation - it can carry tactical nuclear weapons, no questions asked - and then shove your fabrications about the "delivery radius"

Cobra, I'm sorry to get into your graters, but you should decide!
1. Tactical nuclear weapons are a BATTLE FIELD weapon.
Strategic is a weapon with a range (!) Of more than 5000 km.
The basis for the classification of nuclear weapons here is the range of its use and the purpose!
2. And if the classification is based on power, then nuclear weapons are divided into five groups by power:
- ultra-small: less than 1 kt;
- small: from 1 to 10 kt;
- medium: 10 --100 kt;
- high power: from 100 kt to 1 Mt;
- extra high power over 1 Mt.
Ams now put W76-2 type APs on their Tridents with adjustable (variable) power from 5-7 kt to 30 kt (like power for the battlefield), but this does not make Trident II missiles of the D5 complex tactical, because their range is STRATEGIC and they will not be applied according to the accumulation of w.s. and BT on the battlefield, but on strategic targets deep in enemy territory.
This is their difference, although in terms of power they are almost identical to B61-12 ...
Somehow, however.
Once again, sorry, "for a remark from the audience."

[TEX-50]

No, I'm not technically uneducated. You are the one with limited capacity. Or is it incompetent at all? Strategic aviation carries tactical nuclear weapons without question. You can’t put tactical nuclear weapons on the minuteman, but for you it’s too difficult for the above-mentioned reasons. Go to your dad so that he explains to you the difference between TNW and SNW (if he is able of course). Once again, repeat until you fully understand, the difference between TNW and SNW is only in the delivery range and nothing else.

[TEX-50]

hardly anyone will understand

How will they figure it out. And nothing will sound right away. At least until they figure out who the culprit is.

[acetophenone]

Quote: Osipov9391

put their signatures in these agreements.

Are you serious? No, right? Before our eyes, nuclear and non-nuclear are wiped with all sorts of pieces of paper with signatures! All these agreements are not a dogma, and not even a guide to action. And not even food for thought. Just an excuse to start a casual conversation. Style:
- Moron!
- I'm an idiot!
And no more. Especially now, when the 3rd World War no longer even smells in the air, but such an ambre that even hang an ax.

[Osipov9391]

Understand, these treaties are the basis of all world security until today.
So the exceptions are clearly given and none of them in the case of Ukraine exists today.
And therefore, if the country that violated this agreement is not punished demonstratively and equally by other countries that signed there, tomorrow general anarchy will begin on the planet.
Other countries with nuclear weapons (China, India, Pakistan, Israel, Iran, North Korea) will begin to attack their non-nuclear neighbors with these weapons, knowing that they will not get anything for it.
And a couple of dozen countries will want nuclear weapons to solve all their conflicts without fear of anything in return.
Nobody needs it.
Russia will answer. And it doesn't matter who was attacked - Ukraine or Mongolia.
The answer is to show others that it is impossible to do this.

[cold wind]

Do you know what is most important? Only the massive use of tactical nuclear weapons will bring military success. The use of several dozen TNW charges will not affect anything. The war will continue, but with the full involvement of the entire power of NATO and with a complete embargo from all countries of the world, including China and S. Korea. Further escalation may lead to an exchange of strategic nuclear forces, which will lead to the destruction of Russian civilization and infliction of huge losses on the “Western world”. And yes, after the exchange of strategic nuclear forces, the war will not stop in the same way, it will simply go into a different form.

[Demon_is_ada]

Further escalation may lead to an exchange of strategic nuclear forces, which will lead to the destruction of Russian civilization and infliction of huge losses on the “Western world”.

You have disinformation here, the "Western world" will disappear, but Russia will be damaged.
How is it now with a hillock? How's the weather?

[Osipov9391]

Totally agree with you. A disarming strike on Russian strategic nuclear forces can be delivered by the SSBNs of Great Britain, the USA and France.
From forward positions in the Mediterranean, North and Norwegian seas with flat salvos of Trident-2 and M51 SLBMs with a flight time of 12-15 minutes.
Already in the first half hour, almost all the most important objects in the European part of Russia will be destroyed. Such as the bases of the Northern Fleet or the Plesetsk cosmodrome.
The surviving several hundred Topol and Yars mobile ICBMs, as well as several dozen Sineva SLBMs on 1-2 submarines, will not immediately fly anywhere.
It will take time to redirect them to more important targets in our immediate vicinity - US and NATO troop buildups in Europe. So that they do not have the opportunity to go there and occupy the territory of Russia, even if the United States and Europe will also suffer huge losses with the death of 20-25% of the population and economy.
Even in the latter case (it is unlikely due to the small number of carriers and charges that Russia will survive), large groupings of US and NATO troops in Europe, Turkey, Japan and South Korea will not go anywhere. They will easily come and occupy the already almost defenseless territory of Russia.
Therefore, it is likely that, first of all, the remnants of strategic nuclear forces will be hit at these bases, then at civilian and economic centers in Europe and the USA.

And do not forget that, for example, the US naval and air bases in the Hawaiian Islands, Guam and the island of Diego Garcia are full-fledged and autonomous. They can serve both strategic aviation, and SSBNs and aircraft carriers.
They aren't going anywhere either.

[zenion]

Defending your opinion, you want to intimidate everyone. Now rockets can orbit many times. And if there are a thousand of them, then do not care about the contract. Whether they are at least on the islands or in Antarctica. It will fall and explode, and the melted, innocent Antarctica will drown everyone except the mountain peaks. There will be a flood like the Bible says. It is unlikely that anyone will have time to read the contract about what, who should do. The planet will not tolerate. The planet will start a new cycle and start with single-celled ones.

[Bear]

TNW has always, after the collapse of the Union, remained and remains an "ace in the hole", but rather, even a "joker". How much and where is the very secret of secrets, and this is our strength in the European theater of operations.

[composite]

Quote: TEX-50

TNW does not correlate with power in any way. TNW can be of any reasonable power. TNW is the delivery radius!

Quote: TEX-50

It's called scribbles. Which no one will fulfill, given the subject of the scribbles themselves.

What a cheap show.
Well, straight St. Petersburg gateway.
Go ahead, download now about the preemptive strike.
Asableva, you see Kago cut down the first, vnature.
(well, purely in terms of concepts)
it's actually called a showdown,
the object is cut off, if not already cut off,
what if it's circumcised

[Buyan]

You give kilotons of enlightenment to the masses

[Andriuha077]

One of the most ardent supporters of Davy Crockett was the Minister of Defense of West Germany, Franz Josef Strauss, in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Strauss promoted the idea of ​​equipping German brigades with it. He argued that one Davy Crockett could replace 40-50 volleys of the entire divisional artillery park, which makes it possible to invest the funds usually needed for this artillery in additional troops or not to spend them at all.
Strauss's ideas were vehemently opposed by US and NATO commanders because they would have made the use of tactical nuclear weapons almost mandatory in the event of war, further reducing NATO's ability to defend itself without resorting to atomic weapons.

[Alexey Nikolaevich_2]

Quote: Osipov9391

Budapest memorandum.

I am not an expert in this, but which document is more important than this memorandum or the nuclear doctrine of the Russian Federation, which indicates cases of the use of nuclear weapons?

[BigMaxMack]

There is a lot of water in the article without specifics. Wouldn't it be difficult to compare the damage radii of different projectiles compared to the classic ones? And also to evaluate the feasibility of their use in different situations?

[Zaurbek]

I wonder what a salvo of a 152mm battery will look like with such a projectile?

[Andriuha077]

[Forwarded from Ironwind]
Totsk exercises

September is rich in dates, albeit not round ones. On September 14, 1954, Totsk exercises were held with the use of nuclear weapons under the leadership of Marshal G.K. Zhukov. They are overgrown with a bunch of myths and inventions. What did they really show?
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First, the exercises were conducted under draconian security measures. The personnel were sheltered in trenches and dugouts at the time of the explosion. The explosion was air, so the induced radiation quickly decreased. At 730 meters from the epicenter, the radiometer 2 minutes after the explosion showed 65 Roentgen / h, after 10 minutes already 10 R / h, after 47 minutes - 1,5 R / h. Already after 1-2,5 hours it was possible to cheerfully cross the area of ​​​​the explosion. Aircraft at 21-22 minutes after the explosion flew almost through the "leg" of the atomic mushroom and there were only 0,02-0,03 R / h inside the cabin.

In general, for a tactical nuclear user, it is practically safe. With feasible protection measures and the then level of military equipment (tanks and armored personnel carriers).

Secondly, the exercises have shown that nuclear weapons are not an annihilator in and of themselves, and their effect, with all its might, is also limited. They fired 40 kilotons at the Totsk training ground, two Hiroshima on the battalion defense area. A participant in the exercises, Lieutenant Colonel N.V. Danilenko (during the exercises - a major) recalled:
“The closed trenches were filled up. The bunkers with good knurling (rolling) and with machine guns standing in them were intact, slightly burned on top. The dugouts were burned on the outside, but remained intact inside.
Columns of equipment were delivered to the epicenter from three sides to a depth of up to 5 kilometers. The equipment, located at a distance of up to 1000 meters from the epicenter, was pressed into the ground and melted. Trucks at a distance of up to 800 meters from the epicenter burned down, up to 1800 meters were crumpled, and at even greater distances they were almost not damaged.

Not to say that it’s straight horror-horror and all life is burned out in a large radius. Actually, Hiroshima showed that even quite close to the explosion, underground shelters save.

The exercises remained unique for the USSR and were no longer held. Including because the necessary results were obtained and the nuclear shield and sword were forged with an eye on them.

[meandr51]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

You are a little unaware, where this ammunition fell, life is impossible for decades. If only dozens ... Although I am not a nuclear specialist, I could be wrong.

In fact, after decontamination, you can live. Japan is full of examples when people after radiation sickness lived up to 80 years and had normal offspring. But you don't have to live. Enough to cross the explosion zone. This can be done the next day. Nuclear weapons are most effective against cities. And then, the radius of continuous destruction in brick Nagasaki was 1 km. Nuclear weapons have a much worse effect on field fortifications. During the explosion of 40 kt, the dugouts remained intact inside near the epicenter. And tanks - after 2 km.

[Mouse]

The nature of such targets makes it possible to effectively solve the problem with a relatively low power of the ammunition.

Here's what I'll tell you. It's time for a dazzling fireworks display. And it will be much more effective than since they are fighting so far. The Americans used in Yugoslavia. The UN was silent, everyone was silent. Have stocks? Punch forward, let the enemy capitulate.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Time to use it on the Ukronazis.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: Osipov9391

About the response from the nuclear powers to a nuclear attack by a non-nuclear state, it is understood that the transfer to the country that fell under the attack of its nuclear weapons is at its disposal.
In the case of Ukraine, it will be easy and simple to do this by canceling the Budapest Memorandum and returning its nuclear status.
And these are not "scribbles" but the cornerstone of all world security today!
And therefore, if the country that violates these dogmas is not tripled "public flogging", then the next day the world will begin a general mess and vacillation.
Realizing that it is possible and necessary to do this, and in response there will be nothing, the same DPRK attacks its non-nuclear neighbors - Japan and South Korea. Iran attacks Israel, India attacks Pakistan. China attacks Taiwan.
And it will really be a world nuclear war.
Nobody needs this.
Therefore, the answer will be the same. Perhaps presented under the sauce of "achievements of Ukrainian science and the military-industrial complex."

PS

A nuclear attack on Kyiv will immediately hit foreign embassies and, according to international standards, will be equated with a nuclear attack on certain countries. With the declaration of war on Russia.

No: simply because it is better to lose a few dozen diplomats than a few hundred million of your own citizens.