"Unofficial Bezsonov" named the possible reasons for the executions at the school and military registration and enlistment office

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"Unofficial Bezsonov" named the possible reasons for the executions at the school and military registration and enlistment office

Two high-profile crimes occurred on September 26 at once. In the military enlistment office of Ust-Ilimsk in the Irkutsk region, an armed criminal seriously wounded the military commissar, and in Izhevsk an even more terrible tragedy occurred - the criminal opened fire on children at school, killing, according to the latest information, 14 people, including primary school students

According to the Telegram channel “Unofficial Bezsonov Z” (led by Daniil Bezsonov, Deputy Head of the Ministry of Information of the DPR), such cruel and senseless, at first glance, crimes do not happen by chance. The enemies of Russia, and this is not only and not so much Ukraine, but the West, which patronizes it, have long been doing relevant work in the information field.

Not so long ago, internal documents of the units of the Center for Information and Psychological Operations of the Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were leaked to the public. In accordance with them, certain information and psychological operations should be carried out on the territory of both the Donbass and Russia, based, among other things, on manipulations with social groups of the Russian population.

Not so long ago, such activity of the Ukrainian special services would have seemed fantastic, but today the American intelligence structures have managed to properly “train” the Ukrainian wards. So, the author of the Telegram channel emphasizes, recently information and psychological operations "Trouble", "Volodya", "Torch", "Torch-2" and others have been carried out in Russia. Their goal is to provoke social tension, discord, and unrest in Russian society.

Operations “Dwarf”, “Feofan”, “Masquerade”, “Rave” and others were carried out in Donbass. The author pays special attention to the operation "Rave". With the help of this operation, the Ukrainian special services tried to involve the youth of Donbass in the collection of intelligence data with their subsequent transfer to Ukrainian intelligence, as well as in various illegal actions.

With the help of such manipulative technologies, the Ukrainian special services expect to influence the most manipulated groups of the population. Here we add from ourselves: these are not only young people, but also political activists of a radical persuasion - both ultra-right and ultra-left and liberal, religious extremist groups, people with an unstable psyche. For example, it will not work to mobilize crazy people to organize mass unrest, but it is possible to provoke them to such acts of madness.

In many ways, the tragedies that occurred today were the result of the dominance of the enemy in the information field. Contrary to the outdated approaches of domestic civilian and military leaders, the information component of any war, especially the one waged against Russia by the “collective West” today, should be given special attention. Unfortunately, Russia's actions in the information field are not particularly effective. But both the West and the pro-Ukrainian forces act as quickly and effectively as possible.

Should a stupid bureaucrat (or bureaucrat) make a mistake when recruiting mobilized - the issue is then, of course, resolved when the erroneously called up arrives at the training center or unit, but in the media space this situation receives unambiguous coverage from hostile forces: “in Russia, old people are mobilized (disabled people, large families, students who did not serve - underline the necessary ...). Another small victory for hostile forces on the information battlefield.

As for tragedies, the general information background somehow contributes to such crimes. Unbalanced people, warmed up by the information flows of the enemy channels, take such steps, and it is not possible and will not be possible to stop them even by strengthening the usual security measures. But will Russia learn to control the information space? So far, it turns out weakly ... And this is often no less important front than the one where direct hostilities are taking place.
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  1. +63
    26 September 2022 15: 26
    The price of the absence of ideology is the domination of the enemy.
    1. -39
      26 September 2022 15: 29
      We experience all the charms of democracy in Russian.
      1. +25
        26 September 2022 15: 54
        When they shoot at American schools, is this American democracy? Or when in Israel an employee of a cafe cuts a visitor for impolite treatment of him, is this also considered a democracy of the country in which such a fact occurred?
        1. -6
          26 September 2022 16: 04
          I am against too much freedom. And even more so for our country. I about it. That democracy is essentially just a word that carries a high meaning. But in reality, everything is completely different. Freedom and the will of the people are good in moderation.
          I do not understand this beautiful shell at all. It's like the people are doing something.
          We can't allow too much. The freedom of one must end where the freedom of another begins.
          1. +9
            26 September 2022 16: 16
            The freedom of one must end where the freedom of another begins.

            So this is the basic principle of a democratic society and the rule of law.
            1. -2
              26 September 2022 16: 50
              Quote from invisible_man
              So this is the basic principle of a democratic society and the rule of law.

              No way.
              Because civil liberties are an amorphous (formless) concept.
              The form of this concept is given by the laws of a particular country.
              And freedoms are different everywhere.

              In the West, underage children have the freedom to determine their gender.
              And try to interfere with such freedom - you will immediately become unfree.

              "The freedom of one must end where the freedom of another begins" - this is more about the restriction of freedoms, and not about freedoms as such.
              And this principle is the same everywhere.
              Though in a conditionally democratic society, even in a conditionally authoritarian one.
              1. 0
                26 September 2022 19: 32
                Will Russia learn to control the information space?

                Why not take the experience of China as a basis?
                All people have a certain rating.
                Caught in a lie or illegal actions lowers its rating.
                If the rating is below a certain level - it loses the right to leave articles in the media, lowering the rating even more - it loses the right to leave comments.
                And in the end - all articles in China are balanced, there are no unverified facts, the "yellow press" has disappeared.
                1. -1
                  27 September 2022 05: 21
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  If the rating is below a certain level - loses the right to leave articles in the media

                  China has a population of 1,5 billion. and even with such a tough selection, the general information background will be extremely oversaturated with pro-Chinese polemics. In Russia, the population is small and by blocking some, albeit not entirely positive, but pro-Russian opinions, we will remain even more disadvantaged in front of the frankly anti-Russian propaganda that has flooded everything.
                  1. 0
                    27 September 2022 07: 19
                    Quote: sir.jonn
                    Russia has a small population

                    Russia has a low population density.
                    And the quantity is fine. As in France and Germany combined.
          2. +1
            26 September 2022 17: 47
            The freedom of one must end where the freedom of another begins.

            And if this other concept of freedom exceeds all reasonable limits?
            Freedom cannot be uncontrolled. We need frames. To hell with democracy!
            1. +1
              26 September 2022 18: 30
              I remember how it all began. Jean Jacques Rousseau, advanced thinkers, all things, high ideology. Liberte, egalite, fraternal.

              And then - the queue for the guillotine. Here it is the reverse side of the coin called "freedom".
            2. -1
              27 September 2022 12: 50
              what is freedom? This is when ties are broken in values. Ultimately, breaking all ties is death. Biological, social, physical - any. Therefore, the values ​​of the West are the values ​​of death, everything will come to it through their efforts. And at the level of all mankind. This is one side of the world. Individualism. And there is another opposite side - collectivism, when ties are preserved and strengthened. The opposite of the values ​​of freedom. But in the limit, without them, it gives a swamp in which stupid lizards sit, who are happy with everything and do not rock the boat. Also, in the limit, it leads to death from the inability of the organism or society to respond to changed circumstances. These two principles must be in balance with each other so that society or an individual person lives and does not decompose into its constituent parts. There will be too much freedom, the system will go haywire, there will be too many bonds - there will be a swamp with the inability to change, and the very first predator that comes to profit will put this system on the brink of life and death.
    2. +3
      26 September 2022 15: 31
      Quote: MrFYGY
      The cost of not having an ideology

      Ideology is forbidden in our country! Alas!
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 15: 32
        We all see the result, that was the goal.
      2. +15
        26 September 2022 15: 35
        And not only ideology, the disunity of society by strata also gives its results. To one everything, to another the law!
        1. +5
          26 September 2022 16: 05
          Quote: marchcat
          .... the disunity of society into layers also gives its results. ...

          Over this disunity they tried for 30 years
          1. +3
            26 September 2022 21: 45
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Quote: marchcat
            .... the disunity of society into layers also gives its results. ...

            Over this disunity they tried for 30 years

            Something like this. Having abolished the Octobrists, pioneers and Komsomol members, nothing worthwhile was offered in return. Do what you want. With the connivance and lack of interest on the part of the state, a bunch of various funds with foreign funding began to work with our youth, educating them in the spirit of go over their heads and make money in any way, simultaneously instilling a sense of inferiority to the country of residence and exaltation of Western countries. Now we are watching how they are bursting with mobilization. But you don’t have to be seven spans in the forehead to understand the simple truth, if the state does not educate young people in their own interests, then others will educate them, but already in the interests of other, often hostile states.
            1. +2
              27 September 2022 05: 29
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              .... Having abolished the Octobrists, pioneers and Komsomol members, nothing worthwhile was offered in return. ......

              I just went to first grade in 1992. There was confusion Some teachers still, Some denied the whole past, and one teacher became about atheists, about religious holidays and fasts .....
              .... the state does not educate .....

              I am sometimes tormented by vague doubts ..... Sometimes being interested in a TV show or some events, it seems to me that they want to get such a product as Danya Milokhin or vdud.
        2. +5
          26 September 2022 16: 48
          And not only ideology, the disunity of society by strata also gives its results. To one everything, to another the law!

          And step number one of this impasse is the nationalization of the elites. And then we kind of have an elite, but at the slightest nix, they immediately dump it on THEIR historical homeland. And why then are such elites consisting entirely of "foreigners" (Pugacheva and Co.)? Leaving the country at its most difficult moment.
          We need national elites, who, in which case, there would simply be nowhere to dump it except for Russia, because for them it is their historical homeland.
          1. +4
            26 September 2022 16: 51
            Quote: lucul
            We need national elites, who, in which case, would have nowhere to dump except Russia, because it is their historical homeland for them.

            National elites in a capitalist country are an oxymoron, since capital is international by definition.
            1. -2
              26 September 2022 16: 57
              National elites in a capitalist country are an oxymoron, since capital is international by definition.

              Tell it to the Germans or the Japanese.
              1. +2
                26 September 2022 17: 06
                Quote: lucul
                Tell it to the Germans or the Japanese.

                What for ? They themselves seem to guess that "their" elites are not quite "theirs")
                1. -1
                  26 September 2022 17: 39
                  Why

                  Well then, tell this to the Jews, why they don't let anyone into their ranks.
                  1. -1
                    26 September 2022 17: 50
                    Quote: lucul
                    Well then, tell this to the Jews, why they do not let anyone into their ranks.

                    Because "Russian Jews", "American Jews", "British Jews", etc. themselves occupy the ranks of others, historically being cosmopolitans? )
                    1. 0
                      26 September 2022 18: 09
                      Because "Russian Jews", "American Jews", "British Jews", etc. themselves occupy the ranks of others, historically being cosmopolitans? )

                      Do you know such a term as - Polonization, Germanization, Russification? This is when a representative of another nationality dissolves in another nation, adopting its culture and customs, that is, it assimilates.
                      So, Jews practically do not assimilate in other countries, thanks to their religion. And they always serve only the interests of the Jews (according to their religion). So, a country in which the majority of the elite are Jews will serve the interests of the Jews (and not "this country"), and they always try to penetrate the elite.
                      Therefore, the most important factor in the independence of the state is the nationalization of the elites.
                      1. 0
                        26 September 2022 18: 31
                        Quote: lucul
                        So, Jews practically do not assimilate in other countries, thanks to their religion.

                        Oh really ? ) For Jews, in fact, nationality is traditionally determined by the mother, if anyone is interested at all (for example, for permanent residence in Israel), which, as it were, hints that the father can be anything at all. Yes, and they somehow do not strongly rest on religion, except perhaps those Israeli sectarians who do not serve in the army.
                        Do you have any concepts of the Middle Ages, honestly)
                      2. 0
                        26 September 2022 19: 25
                        Oh really ? ) For Jews, in fact, nationality is traditionally determined by the mother, if anyone is interested at all (for example, for permanent residence in Israel), which, as it were, hints that the father can be anything at all.

                        Hmm .....
                        I think that further dialogue with you is unproductive.
                      3. 0
                        26 September 2022 19: 54
                        Quote: lucul
                        I think that further dialogue with you is unproductive.

                        So well, what should a Nazi talk about with me, to whom all these racial quirks are up to one place.
            2. -6
              26 September 2022 17: 28
              Quote: Aleksandre
              National elites in capitalist country are an oxymoron

              An oxymoron is a figure of speech used for greater expressiveness.
              It is fundamentally wrong to call any non-coexisting phenomena an oxymoron.

              Quote: Aleksandre
              capital is by definition international

              There is no such definition of capital that would reflect its international essence.
              Moreover, if the state creates all the conditions for development, then the capital can be very national.
              Because capital is, first of all, the extraction of profit and the turnover of available funds.
              1. +3
                26 September 2022 17: 45
                Quote: Flood
                An oxymoron is a figure of speech used for greater expressiveness. It is fundamentally wrong to call any non-coexisting phenomena an oxymoron.

                Especially for you, I took care to get into the academic dictionary, listen:
                oxymoron - a combination of words with the opposite meaning (that is, a combination of incongruous).
                Moreover, if the state creates all the conditions for development, then the capital can be very national.

                As you know, if a grandmother grows a penis, then she will become a grandfather. Are you ready to name a capital country without leaving this place, where the capital is exclusively national? And if not, then why is this happening: conditions are not created inside everywhere, but they always exist from the outside?
                1. -5
                  26 September 2022 17: 58
                  Quote: Aleksandre
                  academic dictionary, listen:
                  oxymoron - a combination of words with the opposite meaning (that is, a combination of incongruous).


                  The ancient Greek οξύμωρον is translated as "smart stupidity" or "witty-stupid".

                  If that doesn't tell you anything, then let's follow the beaten paths.

                  Small Academic Dictionary
                  A stylistic device, a combination of words with the opposite meaning, for example: "sad joy."

                  Rosenthal's glossary of linguistic terms
                  A stylistic figure consisting in the combination of two concepts that contradict each other, logically excluding one another. Bitter joy, ringing silence, eloquent silence, sweet grief.

                  Great Soviet Encyclopedia
                  stylistic device, a combination of words with the opposite meaning, forming a new semantic whole, for example, “sad joy”

                  Your stubbornness is unexpectedly predictable (oxymoron)
                  1. +1
                    26 September 2022 18: 34
                    Quote: Flood
                    Bitter joy, ringing silence, eloquent silence, sweet grief.

                    A patriotic capitalist... I do not lose hope that you will finally get it.
                    1. -4
                      26 September 2022 19: 43
                      Quote: Aleksandre
                      I do not lose hope that you will still reach

                      It has already come.
                      You missed the last line.
                      No problem.
                      I repeat:

                      Quote: Flood
                      Your stubbornness is unexpectedly predictable
                2. -4
                  26 September 2022 18: 05
                  Quote: Aleksandre
                  You are ready to name a capital country without leaving this place, where capital is exclusively national

                  You are starting from a completely wrong premise.
                  Again, a mistake in terminology.

                  Internationality means international character.

                  But the national character does not at all preclude participation in international projects.
                  It means the priority of the national over the international.
                  1. 0
                    26 September 2022 18: 36
                    Quote: Flood
                    It means the priority of the national over the international.

                    If the money invested in the Russian Federation will give 5% profit, and the money invested in the project in Germany - 6%, then how do you think, where will they be invested by the patriotic owner of the capital? ))) Come on, answer more boldly ...
                    1. -4
                      26 September 2022 19: 23
                      If the money invested in the Russian Federation will give 5% profit, and the money invested in the project in Germany - 6%, then how do you think, where will they be invested by the patriotic owner of the capital? ))) Come on, answer more boldly ...

                      Well, here's an introduction for you - much of what Russia has invested in the West - the same West has nationalized.
                      What do you think, next time our capitalists (namely Russians, and not other nationalities) will invest in Russia or Germany? )))
                      1. +2
                        26 September 2022 19: 52
                        Quote: lucul
                        What do you think, next time our capitalists (namely Russians, and not other nationalities) will invest in Russia or Germany? )))

                        Do you think it's because they don't want to because of fiery patriotism, or because they don't let them in?
                    2. -2
                      26 September 2022 19: 49
                      Quote: Aleksandre
                      Come on, feel free to answer...

                      You think you look witty by allowing yourself such a tone.
                      I can cut you short if you persist in your delusion.

                      Quote: Aleksandre
                      If the money invested in the Russian Federation will give 5% profit, and the money invested in a project in Germany - 6%, then what do you think, where they will be invested by a patriotic owner of capital

                      Immediately visible layman amateur in business.
                      Ask any average businessman and he will tell you how many factors other than margin are taken into account when calculating risk.
                      And, anticipating your question, I answer "yes, I did."
                      1. +2
                        26 September 2022 20: 24
                        Quote: Flood
                        I can cut you short if you persist in your delusion.

                        Except in your next fantasies)
                      2. -2
                        26 September 2022 20: 34
                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        Except in your next fantasies

                        Dear, you with "another fantasies" be careful.

                        So far, I've shaved you clean with my little fingernail and sent you to advanced training.

                        You are a connoisseur of our large and small capitals, coupled with the ancient Greek newspeak.
                      3. +1
                        26 September 2022 20: 47
                        Quote: Flood
                        So far, I've shaved you clean with my little fingernail and sent you to advanced training.

                        And why do I hear this from every liquidly turned and mumbling something indistinctly on any issue? Is this a tradition, like auto-training?
                      4. -2
                        26 September 2022 21: 09
                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        why do I hear this from every liquidly deformed

                        Malets,
                        when the computer returns to the type with which I have communicated so far,

                        tell him that Uncle Vova is not pleased with your behavior.

                        And also tell him to spank you for bad words.
                        So said Uncle Vova.
                      5. 0
                        26 September 2022 21: 25
                        Quote: Flood
                        Malets,
                        when the computer returns to the type with which I have communicated so far,

                        Boy, I understand perfectly well that there were no adults who could tell you that you are talking nonsense, so I'm not angry. All of us were once juvenile morons, but you also have a chance to grow up and at least a little smarter.
                        Thank you for a lot of nonsense, over which I laughed a lot.
                      6. -2
                        26 September 2022 21: 37
                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        Youngster

                        I called the boy the one who writes about the "liquid crap."
                        Since these words contrast sharply with words of the type that talked about the meaning of the word "oxymoron" and the essence of capital.

                        He was trying to impress.
                        This one diligently runs into rudeness.

                        I'm not a boy either.

                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        All of us were once juvenile morons, but you also have a chance to grow up and at least a little smarter.

                        Well, if you ask like that, you stubborn self-satisfied dumbass.
                        I poked you with my nose into your puddles like a kitten here:

                        Quote: Flood
                        Great Soviet Encyclopedia
                        stylistic device, a combination of words with the opposite meaning, forming a new semantic whole, for example, “sad joy”

                        and here

                        Quote: Flood
                        national character does not exclude participation in international projects.
                        It means the priority of the national over the international.

                        Quote: Flood
                        Ask any average businessman and he will tell you how many factors other than margin are taken into account when calculating risk.

                        But you stubbornly continue to spoil where you are not allowed.
                        And you naively think that you won't get a shit for it.

                        Poor kitty, be quiet.
                        Stop pretending to be a tiger.
                      7. -1
                        26 September 2022 21: 51
                        I called the boy the one who writes about the "liquid crap

                        So I just thought that the writer about shaving with a fingernail is much closer to expressions about all sorts of poop than arguments about what is an oxymoron and what is not. So I switched to a language closer to the opponent, for better understanding. As the saying goes: God of God, beadle - beadle.
                        I'm not a boy either.

                        I doubt that adults are usually able to understand what is chewed on their fingers in an explanatory dictionary.
                        I poked you with my nose into your puddles like a kitten here:

                        ... and then suddenly woke up and realized that he had pissed himself ... (((('
                        But you stubbornly continue to spoil where you are not allowed.
                        And you naively think that you won't get a shit for it.

                        Oh, you mustache-pusi we have here what a whole couch distributor of podcpachnikov .... Listen, boy, I'm already crying with laughter from you. It is necessary to repeat your own stupidity with such persistence, but never bother to answer the question with a specific example.
                        And yes, in order to finally descend to the level of the opponent - be-be-be.
                      8. -2
                        26 September 2022 22: 03
                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        So I just thought

                        If you just thought, you would not initially write nonsense.
                        Your trouble is that you are not accustomed to think.
                        A bad tongue is your second trouble, not the first.

                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        I doubt that adults are usually able to understand what is chewed on their fingers in an explanatory dictionary.

                        Then who do you consider yourself if I gave you quotes from three dictionaries, including TSB.
                        A milksucker? Baby?

                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        Listen, boy, I'm already crying with laughter from you.

                        Stupidity and stupidity should be punished.
                        The fact that you did not immediately understand your role in this demonstrative spanking once again demonstrates the decline and devastation that reign in your head.

                        You would have paid at least some of the attention to the intellect that you paid to the right triceps from the avatar.
                        Let's leave the problem of the culture of the discussion for later, for dessert.

                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        It is necessary to repeat your own stupidity with such persistence, but never bother to answer the question with a specific example.

                        Rare balabol.
                        Well, a little stupid, it happens.
                        But in combination with arrogance and swagger, this makes an absolutely extraordinary impression.
                        Does not leave the feeling as if stepped into a known substance.
                        Nothing, we'll wash it.
                        Hygiene first.
                        In communication as well.
                      9. +2
                        26 September 2022 22: 20
                        Quote: Flood
                        If you just thought, you would not initially write nonsense.

                        I was wrong in only one thing: I thought that there was no one more foolish than Hansales in VO. But no, there was still a clown even funnier, and even so pompous)))
                        Your trouble is that you are not accustomed to think.

                        Said to me iidiyot, who made my evening)
                        A bad tongue is your second trouble, not the first.

                        Said the first to get personal, due to lack of brains to conduct a discussion.
                        Stupidity and stupidity should be punished.

                        So you turned out to be punished, hysteria now like an offended child.
                        The fact that you did not immediately understand your role in this demonstrative spanking once again demonstrates the decline and devastation that reign in your head.

                        Maybe I just didn't notice her, because she was only in your wet fantasies?
                        Let's leave the problem of the culture of the discussion for later, for dessert.

                        Yes, I already understood your basic requirement: you yourself can be rude, but you cannot be rude. I'm telling you - you're a typical beadle.
                      10. -3
                        26 September 2022 22: 32
                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        I was wrong in only one thing: I thought that there was no one more foolish than Hansales in VO. But no, there was still a clown even funnier

                        Do you understand what it looks like?
                        If I, the most stupid from your words in VO, beat you in our "literary" dispute,

                        then what place have you prepared for yourself?

                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        Said to me iidiyot who made my evening

                        I'm glad that moving your face across the floor lifted your spirits.
                        Contact us, always ready to help.

                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        Said the first to get personal, due to a lack of brains to conduct a discussion

                        Remind me exactly where I got personal first.
                        Where he asked you to be careful in words?

                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        Yes, I already understood your basic requirement: you yourself can be rude, but you cannot be rude. I'm telling you - you're a typical beadle.

                        Again.
                        Show me where I first got rude to you.
                        And it will immediately become clear who the "beadle" is here.

                        Until then, march under the rug, moth.
                      11. -1
                        27 September 2022 08: 43
                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        adults are usually able to understand what is chewed on the fingers in the explanatory dictionary

                        I realized that you did not understand a damn thing.
                        Haven't talked to these guys in a long time.
                        So in order.

                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        National elites in capitalist country are an oxymoron

                        I tried to explain that an oxymoron is not just two words with opposite meanings.
                        Forest and desert.
                        Mountain and hollow.
                        And not only words with a meaning opposed by some characteristic (although these words are not opposite in meaning)
                        Heat and snow.
                        Steel and jelly.
                        No, an oxymoron is a figure of speech.
                        These are words with opposite (and not only!) meanings, chosen and expressed in a special form that emphasizes the meaning of one of them or gives a new meaning.
                        This form must be found in order for the phrase to acquire that very witty-stupid sound.

                        I wrote it clearly for you.

                        Quote: Flood
                        An oxymoron is a figure of speech used for greater expressiveness.
                        It is fundamentally wrong to call any non-coexisting phenomena an oxymoron.

                        Quote: Flood
                        The ancient Greek οξύμωρον is translated as "smart stupidity" or "witty-stupid".

                        Quote: Flood
                        Great Soviet Encyclopedia
                        stylistic device, a combination of words with the opposite meaning, forming a new semantic whole, for example, “sad joy”

                        How much one needs to be an outstanding person in a certain respect in order to arrange a boorish scene around his ignorance.

                        I know I'm wasting my time.
                        You are clueless. But I'm not writing for you.
                        For those who read.
                        For those who you can mislead with your stupid comments.
          2. +1
            26 September 2022 18: 47
            The elite is needed not one that has nowhere to dump, but one that is not going to dump anywhere.
            Because he does not think of his life outside of Russia. Otherwise it is not an elite.
      3. 0
        26 September 2022 15: 39
        Alas, alas, but maybe. and not alas ... Instruct our officials (and who else to entrust?) to compose something like that, so they quickly come up with such a thing! And then we have to live with it!
        1. +2
          26 September 2022 16: 54
          Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
          Instruct our officials (and who else to instruct?)

          There is also a favorite of the king, the fascist Ilyin, although he died long ago in exile.
          Dyrachok and freak Dugin what is bad? Wow, how will he write, oh how will we live! wassat
      4. +3
        26 September 2022 16: 03
        .... American intelligence structures managed to ..... train ......

        hi probably, Vladimir Vladimirovich, not only to train, but also to motivate.
        And as for ideology, we often hear the phrase ----
        there will be no return to socialism

        So there will be ambiguities --- then the VICTORY BANNER on the tank, then Mau was released. How many liberal larvae he and his last spawned.
        And then we get situations like this
      5. 0
        26 September 2022 16: 27
        Well, what ideology could be offered now? The deceased, please do not remember ...
        1. -2
          26 September 2022 17: 10
          Russian myth: "to live, to live and to make good."

          The Russian Fairy Tale has always been hidden under religion and "idea". As soon as the "fairy tale" disappeared from the idea and faith, the country fell apart.

          And ideologies are right under the ban. Give free rein to the evil Russian wise men, so the robbers will seem like angels.
      6. 0
        26 September 2022 18: 43
        Only the state ideology is forbidden in our country, therefore, anti-state ideology easily flows in its place.
      7. -1
        27 September 2022 05: 48
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        Ideology is forbidden

        Ideology is definitely not something that can be banned. There are ALWAYS two ideologies in Russia: for power and against power. The West is actively manipulating and trying to push foreheads, and unfortunately it often turns out and always bloody.
    3. 0
      26 September 2022 16: 58
      Quote: MrFYGY
      The price of the absence of ideology is the domination of the enemy.

      I agree. In the information and ideological war, we are still losing to the West. In this regard, they have an entire industry working at full speed. And we only have Sputnik and RT clogged everywhere, and even weak sobs in Odnoklassniki, where the forelocks have recently run into, like fleas on a stray dog. Even on VO, people somehow weakly dismiss them (admins limit)
      1. -3
        26 September 2022 17: 43
        Odnoklassniki", where lately the forelocks have run up like fleas on a stray dog. Even on VO, people somehow weakly brush them aside (admins limit)

        Now here in the comments there are a lot of as you wrote - forelocks. Many in the "ranks" ml. lieutenant and lieutenant of sofa troops, pay attention. Many of our regular commentators argue with the forelocks, "fight with windmills."
        A request to the administration to indicate (at least for a while, at least for a week) from which country the commentator is from. We need to clear the lines. Time of war, why do you give a platform for agitation for the enemy?
    4. +1
      26 September 2022 18: 21
      Once again I will repeat the question under similar statements: Tell me, what is the ideology in the USA, in Switzerland, in Japan. Well, for example, to understand.
      1. +1
        27 September 2022 05: 56
        Quote: Sentinel-vs
        Tell me, what is the ideology in the USA

        In the USA, in every house there is a star-striped flag, the greatness of their country is their ideology.
    5. -1
      27 September 2022 08: 54
      So we are doing everything right. Nazism must be finished FULLY.
  2. +11
    26 September 2022 15: 32
    It is worth a stupid bureaucrat (or bureaucrat) to make a mistake when recruiting mobilized, but in the media space this situation receives unequivocal coverage from hostile forces
    How convenient though. It means that it is not a specific stupid bureaucrat who is to blame, but some ephemeral hostile forces. Maybe you still need to at least plant a dozen fools for 10 years? Otherwise, they live too easily, at least as a mess, even out of stupidity, even out of sabotage, but it’s still not they who are to blame, but some hostile forces.
    1. 0
      26 September 2022 16: 10
      So the author of these bureaucrats does not at all defend, but outlines a completely understandable method of propaganda. It seems that he generally forgot about these bureaucrats immediately after he mentioned it.
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 16: 51
        It seems that he generally forgot about these bureaucrats immediately after he mentioned it.
        As stupid as the ones you mentioned? Well then, and him with them for the company to the Kolyma. Let him think.
  3. +2
    26 September 2022 15: 34
    Unbalanced people, warmed up by the information flows of the enemy's channels, take such steps,

    +
  4. +11
    26 September 2022 15: 34
    The one who shot the kids at school was, according to some reports, a neo-Nazi. It is possible that something similar will be found in the second one, from Ust-Ilimsk (in general, a considerable number of nationalists are fighting for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and everyone knows this). It is necessary to punish, it is necessary to introduce the death penalty, it is necessary to close the information field ...
    1. 0
      26 September 2022 15: 42
      Minus several thousand Natsiks, completely useless and dangerous for the Fatherland. And how many lives will we save? You, up there. Decide
    2. +2
      26 September 2022 15: 46
      This is what I read:
      According to preliminary data, the attacker fired two Makarov pistols. He was wearing a Nazi T-shirt.
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 17: 07
        Which one?
        Wiki:
        "Nazi symbols"
        In the first half of the 1th century, the Nazi Party made extensive use of graphic symbolism. The main symbol was the Hakenkreuz (lit. "hook-cross") - a swastika, also depicted on flags, including the national flag of Nazi Germany [XNUMX].

        Other symbols used by the Nazis included:

        The eagle with the swastika is the official coat of arms of Nazi Germany.
        "Lightning" SS (Runic "SS", two Sovilo runes)[2][3].
        Various runes and rune-like symbols[4][5] such as Odal, Wolfsangel.
        Black uniform and SS insignia.
        Brown shirts of the stormtroopers.
        The “Dead Head” is the insignia of the SS unit of the same name for the protection of concentration camps, the emblem of the tank division of the same name formed from this unit [6], as well as a personal award in the form of a ring.
        Adolf Hitler's personal standard
    3. +2
      26 September 2022 16: 13
      Quote: Andrey A
      close the information field

      Already closed. Did not help. It even seems to be damaged. Bad method, then.
      1. +1
        26 September 2022 16: 27
        Quote: Plate
        Quote: Andrey A
        close the information field

        Already closed. Did not help. It even seems to be damaged. Bad method, then.

        In China, everything that is needed in the information field is blocked and it works well. And for the most part, we haven't even tried it.
        1. +1
          26 September 2022 17: 28
          Tried. Only this did not prevent the country from falling apart in the end, but rather, judging by what I saw in textbooks and articles on this topic, heard in stories, it only helped. We don't need this for the new one.
          1. 0
            26 September 2022 18: 57
            Quote: Plate
            Tried. Only this did not prevent the country from falling apart in the end, but rather, judging by what I saw in textbooks and articles on this topic, heard in stories, it only helped. We don't need this for the new one.

            Well, you remembered the Union. At that time, such information dissemination technologies did not exist. I meant that we did not try to install a global firewall like in China.
            But the fact remains. China has survived and is developing. So the collapse of the Union was not due to the information curtain. And filtering information by the type of Chinese is quite necessary and justified.
        2. 0
          26 September 2022 18: 46
          The basic principle in China works differently: it has its own internal resources that are convenient for the Chinese, so they are simply not interested in external resources.
          1. -1
            26 September 2022 19: 11
            Quote: Bass Navigator
            The basic principle in China works differently: it has its own internal resources that are convenient for the Chinese, so they are simply not interested in external resources.

            It's a little different than what you wrote. When you enter a query in the search bar, you get not what you are interested in, but what the search robot slips you. And how a robot is programmed is a topic for a separate study, but before you find what you wanted, you have to re-read a lot of what they need. In addition, you are palmed off with a bunch of advertising junk from offers of a car, a loan, a microloan to pornography, prostitution services, obtaining US or Israeli citizenship and materials about "Russia's aggression" in Ukraine. Therefore, without a firewall, it will not be possible to protect oneself from brainwashing.
            1. +1
              26 September 2022 21: 17
              I know how search engines work, but China is very local. They have mega-popular analogues of everything that is blocked from the outside, they simply do not need to bypass the blocking.
              https://www.iphones.ru/iNotes/552903
              1. 0
                26 September 2022 22: 19
                Quote: Bass Navigator
                I know how search engines work, but China is very local. They have mega-popular analogues of everything that is blocked from the outside, they simply do not need to bypass the blocking.
                https://www.iphones.ru/iNotes/552903

                Yes, that is right.
      2. +1
        26 September 2022 16: 43
        In China, the information field is being closed, a powerful firewall is working there ... Well, that's right ...
  5. 0
    26 September 2022 15: 36
    Psychos, stupid people and turned were and will be. 30 years ago, we would not have thought that the Ukrainians would be enemies. Even though they speak Russian.
  6. +1
    26 September 2022 15: 37
    There is no excuse for this, if you want to shoot, go to the draft board, go to the NVO zone and shoot as much as you like. When we are not working with young people, "partners" start working with them.
    1. +1
      26 September 2022 16: 15
      I am curious. How do you imagine working with youth?
      1. -2
        26 September 2022 16: 29
        Quote: Plate
        I am curious. How do you imagine working with youth?

        To begin with, return the NVP to the school. Return ideological education. But for this it is necessary to determine the ideology itself.
        1. -3
          26 September 2022 17: 25
          Quote: Sarboz
          To begin with, return the NVP to the school.

          Sounds interesting. But I wouldn't make it a mandatory subject. Because what to do with those who are generally not interested in the topic of guns and gas masks? Let's say, introduce a system so that without NVP it would be very difficult for boys and girls to get 5 in physical education and life safety :) Only 4.
          Quote: Sarboz
          Return ideological education.

          Leave this here. Personally, if they start to overwrite me every day about how good it will be to live under communism, I will quickly become some kind of neo-liberal. And the same will work in any other direction. Purely in order to combat this imposition. No, I, like everyone else, have my own views on how life should be arranged, and there is no need to impose anything on anyone here.
          Quote: Sarboz
          But for this it is necessary to determine the ideology itself.

          Why decide on it? All in public for all the good against all the bad.
        2. -3
          26 September 2022 17: 45
          The ideology is simple: power is for ordinary people. Support and honor power. She is for us ordinary workers. When I say: but excuse me, how can it be that all these Tinkoffs, Abramovichs, and a bunch of others have forgotten what Russia looks like. They have dozens of houses in London, America and Israel, super-yachts and what an ordinary teacher or doctor in Russia will not see until his death, even working at 3 jobs, they tell me: what if it were not for Putin with his smart leadership, Tinkov there would be not one icebreaker yacht, but 10. And Abramovich has not 10 villas, but 100 .... It is logical. I just don't want to thank the authorities anyway. And to consider that she cares for ordinary people - too. What kind of ideology can we talk about in a society that has one goal: to have a lot of money and consume.
  7. +4
    26 September 2022 15: 38
    For me, this is largely the result of the failure of the police through the district police. Here the duck went through psychiatry, but at the same time he was not observed at home, and after all, a district police officer in the old, Soviet style would certainly have revealed both inclinations and movements to acquire and remake injuries.
    Of course, the time is different and the relationship, but still ...
    1. +4
      26 September 2022 15: 44
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      but a district police officer in the old, Soviet style would certainly have revealed inclinations ...

      ...to the cinema Yes I didn’t see the district police officer NEVER before entering the school ...
      After the end of the service, he met at work several times and came home a couple of times - he asked about the neighbors.
      1. +3
        26 September 2022 15: 55
        Quote: yuriy55
        I didn’t see the district police officer NEVER before entering the school ...

        Have you been observed in a fool, with inclinations? I think not. Were there drives to the police, signals from the school to the children's room? Hardly. So why would a normal person cross paths with him, except for polls on neighbors.
      2. +3
        26 September 2022 17: 15
        I have not seen the precinct NEVER

        I saw, near the collection point, I confiscated from us, still schoolchildren, bags with glass containers. ~85 year.
  8. Mwg
    0
    26 September 2022 15: 38
    "... such cruel and senseless, at first glance, crimes do not happen by chance." - absolutely agree. These are all manifestations of that same Nazism. Mediated? Yes. But it doesn't change the essence.
    Nazism is a sweet poison, striking at the same time as a feeling of dubious insight against the backdrop of ferocious euphoria
  9. Two
    0
    26 September 2022 15: 40
    hi It's time for the FSB officers to start working among the masses, and not just to engage in liberalism. Return the police to schools, more attention to all sorts of subcultures and sects. Well, the reaction should be extremely tough.
    1. +1
      26 September 2022 15: 55
      Yes, extremism flourishes in RuNet, I sometimes read such things there that I can’t retell without violating most of the local rules. However, the relevant authorities are more concerned with protecting Western copying than with such extremist statements.
    2. +1
      26 September 2022 16: 33
      Yeah , permanently turn schools into high - security zones . No, it won't help. Just heal society.
  10. -3
    26 September 2022 15: 42
    Enemies of Russia... Their goal is to provoke social tension, discord and unrest in Russian society.
    I haven’t watched teleffizor for years already ... eleven fellow Tell me where to look in the record as a High Responsible Person who distributed OUR !!! children under PAINT!!! rusty machine guns - he was "accepted" under the cameras and at least two articles of the Criminal Code were sewn - for treason and discrediting the army ??? Can you imagine a selfie from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, how they stare at ours, and they can’t even shoot themselves out of shame, because the machine guns are rusty?! am
    1. -10
      26 September 2022 16: 05
      Uh, where are the proofs that they give rusty weapons to our fighters, and not to the dry militia? Photoshop can do a lot. And Napoleon also has horns under a cocked hat, many believe (quote from the film)
      1. +8
        26 September 2022 16: 08
        Quote: evgen1221
        Uh, where are the proofs that they give rusty weapons to our fighters, and not to the dry militia? Photoshop can do a lot. And Napoleon also has horns under a cocked hat, many believe (quote from the film)

        By proof - read our patriotic telegram channels drinks They still managed to replace the machines with them soldier
      2. 0
        26 September 2022 16: 31
        Quote: evgen1221
        Uh, where are the proofs that they give rusty weapons to our fighters, and not to the dry militia? Photoshop can do a lot. And Napoleon also has horns under a cocked hat, many believe (quote from the film)

        One of the proofs: https://t.me/yurasumy/5054
        Telegram channel of Yury Podolyaka
        1. -1
          26 September 2022 19: 54
          Ok, and this educator from the plow, well, in general, he never came across on his own inventions and unverified information (quickly on the air and then don’t care). And with so many weapons in the Bundstan, I think it’s not a problem to find and replace in five minutes with a normal machine gun.
    2. -7
      26 September 2022 16: 32
      And what, cleaning weapons is no longer the responsibility of a fighter?
  11. +3
    26 September 2022 15: 46
    The fight against disinformation is bad. Counter-informing is also lame on both legs. This is half the trouble. The main thing is that no one is particularly striving to correct the situation, although it is not so difficult ... Let's say, what is - News? Something fresh, something that happened recently, right? When they try to give me on TV in the evening what happened in the morning, and during the day it was covered in the same program, I don’t even laugh and don’t get indignant. I'm just stating a fact: the editors of the news program show their unprofessionalism.
  12. -2
    26 September 2022 15: 54
    Western intelligence agencies activate all sleeping schizophrenics on the territory of the Russian Federation...
    1. -1
      26 September 2022 16: 02
      So much the worse for schizophrenics and easier for the rest of the country.
    2. +1
      26 September 2022 16: 21
      One less idiot in Ryazan. He is my countryman.
  13. +2
    26 September 2022 15: 55
    Should a stupid bureaucrat (or bureaucrat) make a mistake when recruiting mobilized

    And what mistake? Author, did you read the decree? What about regional orders? It was not the local military commissars who made a mistake there, but those stupid ones who composed such a decree, where nothing is said and, accordingly, orders for the regions -
    Here is an example of the text of the order for the Tver region -


    In the first mobilization decree of June 22, 1941, it was clearly indicated in which military districts mobilization was carried out and the years of birth (1905 - 1918) of those called up for military service were indicated.
    Since I have a mobile prescription and I have to appear without waiting for a summons, I called a friend of the military commissar and on the day the decree was issued, he said that he himself did not understand anything either in the decree or in the order.
    Maybe someone saw an official document, who is subject to mobilization?
    1. +2
      26 September 2022 16: 36
      Maybe someone saw an official document, who is subject to mobilization?

      Who will show it to you?))) Razi that later someone will merge, flashing from this madhouse ....
  14. 0
    26 September 2022 16: 01
    As practice shows, similar actions of intimidation from all lead to the opposite result of Western Wishlist. I feel sorry for the people, but there will be no pity in return. Let them continue to yell at the whole world that they did it, it will be worse for them in the future.
  15. +1
    26 September 2022 16: 05
    I am enraged at work by those who are waiting for Putin to leave. Questions from me. Who gave you the opportunity to leave the north with a northern pension? Who gave you the opportunity to buy a plot without a residence permit? Who gave you the opportunity to earn on the state that paid your salary, so that you could build yourself without denying yourself anything? Putin, but I hate him and wait for him to leave. Western propaganda does not sleep. Here they are executors of someone else's will. I have snitches in me, and sometimes I really want to show civic consciousness. But we don’t like informers, since childhood. There aren’t enough FSBs for all.
    1. +3
      26 September 2022 19: 59
      Yabidding for the purpose of personal savings and accounts is bad, but also yabidding for the purpose of preventing crimes and their prevention is already a civil responsibility for the country and people, and this cannot and should not be shameful. Flies separately cutlets separately.
  16. -2
    26 September 2022 16: 08
    And so full of psychos with weapons, so even the bandits are given weapons to fulfill the "honorable duty to defend the Motherland" in the ranks of PMCs with subsequent release.
    1. -1
      26 September 2022 16: 34
      You shouldn’t worry so much, they are selected there according to the relevant articles, they don’t give weapons to gopniks (street robbers).
      1. +1
        26 September 2022 16: 44
        You shouldn’t worry so much, they are selected there according to the relevant articles, they don’t give weapons to gopniks (street robbers).

        If you believe the video from the colony, with a man similar to E. Prigozhin, then several other articles were mentioned there.
      2. +3
        26 September 2022 16: 48
        You shouldn’t worry so much, they are selected there according to the relevant articles, they don’t give weapons to gopniks (street robbers).


        Are you sure?

        Igor Kusk, leader of the Kuskovskie gang, who was serving a 23-year sentence in a strict regime colony on charges of murder and other serious crimes, died in Donbass. It is reported by "Business Online".


        the deceased served in the ranks of the Wagner PMC in the Artemovsk (Bakhmut) region. He died on September 6 from a shrapnel that hit his head.

        The convicted leader of the Nizhnekamsk organized crime group, who served nine years of his term, was buried on the Walk of Fame of the city cemetery, the coffin was accompanied by a cortege of hundreds of cars. At the funeral, people in military uniform fired three volleys into the air from machine guns, the newspaper writes.


        What is it like? Some kind of sur...
        1. -3
          26 September 2022 17: 39
          Really? You are scaring me! Can't be!
        2. -2
          26 September 2022 17: 42
          What is it like? Some kind of sur...

          Don't be surprised, this has already been discussed before:
          "...I have come to call not the righteous, but sinners to repentance." (Matthew 9:10-13)
  17. 0
    26 September 2022 16: 11
    The absence of a state people's idea, the most powerful stratification of society, plus the permanent psychosis of the population is an ideal environment for recruiting traitors and such people. I think that parents of non-humans should be fully responsible. Possibly relatives. Everyone saw everything and was silent. If the authorities prove it, that means prison.
  18. -3
    26 September 2022 16: 15
    When will the Kremlin wage war, and not play children's "war"? Why aren't attacks on the decision-making centers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Why is the infrastructure and enterprises of the military-industrial complex of the ukroreich not being destroyed? Or Russian oligarchs do not allow it to be done - to destroy their property? As it was in the Second World War, when the big business tycoons of the USA and Great Britain forbade the bombing of the enterprises of the German military-industrial complex, in which the share of the share capital of the USA and Great Britain sometimes reached 60%
  19. 0
    26 September 2022 16: 15

    Not so long ago, internal documents of the units of the Center for Information and Psychological Operations of the Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were leaked to the public. In accordance with them, certain information and psychological operations should be carried out on the territory of both the Donbass and Russia, based, among other things, on manipulations with social groups of the Russian population.

    Let Roman Skomorokhov read this information, otherwise he published an article here in the morning, where he spoke with disregard for the capabilities of the CIPSO.
    Recently, information and psychological operations "Trouble", "Volodya", "Torch", "Torch-2" and others have been carried out in Russia. Their goal is to provoke social tension, discord and unrest in Russian society.
  20. +3
    26 September 2022 16: 19
    Fierce bullshit. Even if we agree, for simplicity, that some "hostile and terribly terrible forces in their minds" worked with the detonator, then a completely logical question arises - but who grew the bomb itself? Or was this average person in everything programmed from the Internet? Probably by the method of neurolinguistic inscription of cabalistic signs, yeah.
    1. +1
      26 September 2022 16: 30
      And why didn’t he shoot the military commissar of the city a decade ago and not a year ago! Coincidence?
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 16: 47
        Quote: Sofkar
        And why didn’t he shoot the military commissar of the city a decade ago and not a year ago! Coincidence?

        For the author of this article, the answer will be obvious: either they kept a sleeping psychopath agent in reserve, or they looked after a completely ordinary person in advance and processed him via Skype at the moment when it was needed bully
  21. -3
    26 September 2022 16: 24
    Yes, it is clear that these tragedies are the result of the work of the CIPSO. But, damn it - why don't we have a similar structure? Why do bloggers and military correspondents do more in our country than all the media fattening on state money? And you understand how wise the leadership of China is with its global firewall "Great Wall"!
  22. +1
    26 September 2022 16: 29
    Today we are reaping the fruits of the Sorov reform of education, starting from preschool and beyond, there is no need for NVP from school ...., "Zarnitsa" is a relic of the past ...., as a result - nervous Tik-Tok youth, and even serving in the army at 1 year old ...., "please shave ....."
  23. Hog
    -1
    26 September 2022 16: 30
    I understand that there is a real tragedy in Izhevsk, but what is the tragedy (high-profile crime) with the military commissar from Ust-Ilimsk (as if we don’t attack anyone anywhere or just some special military commissar)?
  24. -2
    26 September 2022 16: 30
    Everything is so, but one gets the impression that this Tsipso has been controlled from Moscow for many years, or that Moscow has been conducting exactly the same operations on its territory. Look at what has been happening on television for decades - these endless "cop wars", look how angry the population is - driving around the city for a day you will definitely watch a couple of vodyatlov wagons, setting the population on doctors, teachers. All these phrases in the news sites - "..... the residents were indignant ..." for any reason, they are mothers and they are children. The cops, in fact, gave the cities to gopote, and the population to crooks. Or maybe you think that a scammer who is engaged in telephone fraud is just so elusive?
    I'm honestly already tired of listing, continue on your own.
  25. +4
    26 September 2022 16: 40
    Quote: Kargapoltsev Alexander
    And what, cleaning weapons is no longer the responsibility of a fighter?

    Included, of course!
    I listen to you carefully, how to clean a weapon from through rust in the barrel wassat I listen very carefully
    1. -4
      26 September 2022 19: 28
      The army has to start somewhere. Usually meaningless. Here they are allowed to have fun. They will come to the front and find there everything their heart desires. Another thing is that the shooter, in principle, will be needed by a few of them. Already in the Second World War, many units for years did not shoot precisely to rust in the bore.
  26. +3
    26 September 2022 16: 42
    Sincere condolences to parents whose children will never come running from school, will not bring diaries with fives, will not laugh at a joke ....
  27. -4
    26 September 2022 16: 59
    This is a modern phenomenon that can be easily used by children, more work needs to be done with children. Where there is no discipline, there is always something very bad. A trained ideologist (psychologist, psychiatrist) knows how to mislead children. It's evil, but no one knows how to deal with it. Compulsory military service is gone and the boys miss it. am
    1. -2
      26 September 2022 17: 33
      It is in Ukraine that she disappeared, and in Russia the compulsory service is 1 year on conscription.
  28. +3
    26 September 2022 17: 08
    Russian propaganda can also influence mentally ill people.
    All this began with the explosions of residential buildings in Moscow and Volgodonsk. In Russia, it's time to tie up with the intimidation of its own population.
    Yes, today there are full-scale military operations on the territory of Ukraine.
    Why are you bombarding all television and radio channels at such an alarming time, from morning until late at night, with performances of brainwashers? Give people objective news!
    Why turn everything into endless marathons with talk shows by Solovyov, Skobeeva, ... and other propagandists?
    Give people the opportunity to come to their senses, come to their senses, gather their thoughts in order to start working for the ultimate goal - our common VICTORY over the snickering, imagining its exclusivity West!
  29. +1
    26 September 2022 17: 48
    "It is worth a stupid bureaucrat (or bureaucrat) to make a mistake when recruiting mobilized - then, of course, the issue is resolved"
    laughing
  30. 0
    26 September 2022 19: 02
    Quote from Drotro
    I am against too much freedom. And even more so for our country. I about it. That democracy is essentially just a word that carries a high meaning. But in reality, everything is completely different. Freedom and the will of the people are good in moderation.
    I do not understand this beautiful shell at all. It's like the people are doing something.
    We can't allow too much. The freedom of one must end where the freedom of another begins.

    You wrote two mutually exclusive things. 1 The people do not influence, there is no possibility, then what kind of democracy are you talking about?
    2. You are against an overabundance of freedoms. Okay, but in point 1 you stated that there are none? Then it is not at all clear what you wrote ....
  31. 0
    26 September 2022 19: 03
    Quote: marchcat
    And not only ideology, the disunity of society by strata also gives its results. To one everything, to another the law!

    This is actually called class disunity .... under capitalism, this is an axiom, it is not treated.
  32. +2
    26 September 2022 19: 06
    Another attempt to pull the owl on the globe. They just hung noodles on their ears from above that there would be no mobilization, the second army would cope with it, and then bam, they began to row to the military registration and enlistment offices, it is obvious that society was extremely unprepared for such a turn. Especially today's youth, who are completely unmotivated to fight in a foreign country.
  33. -1
    26 September 2022 19: 08
    Quote: Andrey Moskvin
    And if this other concept of freedom exceeds all reasonable limits?
    Freedom cannot be uncontrolled. We need frames. To hell with democracy!

    Are you calling for a revolution? For the latter happened, among other things, for the reason that the authorities could not, but the lower classes did not want to. Refusal of the right of the lower classes to influence the ruling class, it has already been and ended in a revolution, since this is a complete lack of rights of some over others.
  34. -1
    26 September 2022 19: 10
    Quote from Drotro
    I remember how it all began. Jean Jacques Rousseau, advanced thinkers, all things, high ideology. Liberte, egalite, fraternal.

    And then - the queue for the guillotine. Here it is the reverse side of the coin called "freedom".

    However, I am silent about earlier times, but are the city-states of Greece? Or Rousseau was a genius inventor ....
  35. -1
    26 September 2022 19: 18
    It is worth a stupid bureaucrat (or bureaucrat) to make a mistake when recruiting mobilized - the issue is then, of course, resolved when the mistakenly called up arrives at a training center or unit, but in the media space this situation receives unambiguous coverage from hostile forces
    The problem is that in addition to those who are paid for it, a crowd of volunteers will appear who will immediately start shouting wherever they can, "Everything is lost!", without even thinking why.
  36. 0
    26 September 2022 19: 28
    Quote: Flood

    There is no such definition of capital that would reflect its international essence.
    Moreover, if the state creates all the conditions for development, then the capital can be very national.
    Because capital is, first of all, the extraction of profit and the turnover of available funds.

    Tell me, did the development of capitalism stop after Marx? Was there an era of imperialism? What kind of omorphic entity is the state, and how can it stimulate, and even help everyone? And who will force him if he does not want to? Moreover, it is completely incomprehensible, there is a saying - "There will be no revision of the results of privatization" and Deripaska and others like him lay down the bones to drive the products of their factories, for example, to the USA. They were offended, they are being clamped down here or they are looking for new markets, because it is not possible to sell what they produce inside the country, they will have to reduce production if they become national ....
  37. -1
    26 September 2022 19: 32
    Quote: Bayun
    Russian myth: "to live, to live and to make good."

    The Russian Fairy Tale has always been hidden under religion and "idea". As soon as the "fairy tale" disappeared from the idea and faith, the country fell apart.

    Re-read Losev, in my opinion, you are not quite correct or interpreting him too primitively ...
  38. 0
    26 September 2022 19: 33
    It's good that this doesn't happen in our time. They will tell me that we did not know much. I know from nearby schools where some kind of aunt Masha was the main watchman. And there were no police in the hospitals. What is happening. look at "On Juvenile Affairs", "On Duty" and think we don't need external enemies either.
  39. 0
    26 September 2022 19: 39
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Minus several thousand Natsiks, completely useless and dangerous for the Fatherland. And how many lives will we save? You, up there. Decide

    Stalin tried, though for a different reason, no, well, of course, he came across a contra, but how many Shalamovs, your idea is understandable, a person’s life is worth nothing, but we must remember, “and who are the judges” and these methods are double-edged ..
  40. +1
    26 September 2022 19: 45
    Quote: Plate
    But for this it is necessary to determine the ideology itself.

    Why decide on it? All in public for all the good against all the bad.

    It is simply remarkable that when Zhirinovsky urged the Duma not to ratify the treaty of friendship and cooperation with Ukraine, since ratification automatically meant recognition of the borders, the Duma voted openly and legally for ratification. . Zhirinovsky's explanation that there will be problems in the future was ignored, the president signed. Here is your "for all the good against all the bad" in action....
  41. 0
    26 September 2022 19: 50
    Until we admit that perestroika, the collapse of the social. camps and the USSR, the course towards entering "Western civilization" were tragic mistakes bordering and even going beyond the concept of crime not for individuals, but for our entire society, all of us, i.e. what will have to be redeemed - we will not have any ideology. So we will stand "in a hurry".
  42. 0
    26 September 2022 19: 54
    [quote = Navigator Basov]
    Sarboz (Oleg ZOV)
    Today, 18: 57

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    Quote: Plate
    Tried. Only this did not prevent the country from falling apart in the end, but rather, judging by what I saw in textbooks and articles on this topic, heard in stories, it only helped. We don't need this for the new one.

    Well, you remembered the Union. At that time, such information dissemination technologies did not exist. I meant that we did not try to install a global firewall like in China.
    But the fact remains. China has survived and is developing. So the collapse of the Union was not due to the information curtain. And filtering information by the type of Chinese is quite necessary and justified.
    It remains a little, to explain by means of which China did not collapse. And what filtering led to friendship with China in 40-50s, extermination and hatred of Russians in 60-70s and "new love"))
  43. -1
    27 September 2022 11: 37
    And as you thought, the enemy strikes as best he can, no one fights in white gloves.
  44. 0
    27 September 2022 15: 24
    Hey gun lovers!!! Is this what you want? Why would children be afraid to go to school? Tactical you are ours.
    1. -2
      28 September 2022 10: 28
      If the school had a normal guard with weapons, then this idiot would simply be filled up right away, and that's it. Look at your leisure the number of murders per capita in the US and Russia. And then recalculate this indicator for each legal trunk. Everything will immediately become clear, like a clear day.
      1. -1
        28 September 2022 10: 44
        Quote: TEX-50
        If the school had a normal guard with weapons, then this idiot would simply be filled up right away, and that's it. Look at your leisure the number of murders per capita in the US and Russia. And then recalculate this indicator for each legal trunk. Everything will immediately become clear, like a clear day.

        The number of murders in the US is higher, what's the problem? And if people did not have weapons, then there would be no need for protection. Again the same song. Like, I'll buy a pinstolet and I'll be safe. Just what to do for children, old people, etc.? Recently, in Ukraine, a drunken neighbor shot and killed elderly summer residents. Are you going to buy pinstolets for your parents too? Your logic is fundamentally wrong, people have no guns, and there are no problems with firearms. Tell me about the bandits, a counter question, have you met a lot of bandits to arrange a shootout? Or do you need a trunk to swing on the road or in a club?
        1. -2
          28 September 2022 13: 02
          The number of murders in the United States per capita is one and a half times less than in Russia. This is without taking into account the fact that the US population is the most armed in the world. And if you estimate for each legal barrel, then 50 times less.

          "And if people did not have weapons, then there would be no need for protection


          If yes, if only. Crime has weapons and always will. In 100% of cases.
          1. -1
            30 September 2022 19: 27
            Quote: TEX-50
            The number of murders in the United States per capita is one and a half times less than in Russia. This is without taking into account the fact that the US population is the most armed in the world. And if you estimate for each legal barrel, then 50 times less.

            "And if people did not have weapons, then there would be no need for protection


            If yes, if only. Crime has weapons and always will. In 100% of cases.

            Come on, what do you know about crime? Hahahaha, this is funny to read. By God. "Tactical" talks about crime. What are you brazenly lying about here? And here the soul of the population, it is necessary to look at absolute numbers. This is not the density of matter, but real lives. For example, in Russia I feel safe everywhere, unlike abroad.
  45. 0
    27 September 2022 18: 20
    It's time to bring back "punitive psychiatry." Potentially dangerous fellow citizens should be isolated, not terrorized by fellow students in schools and adults in civilian life. Down with inclusion and tolerance for psychos.
    On the other hand, psychos are just a breakthrough of abscesses on the body of society. Where it is thin, it breaks there. Officials and gays themselves provoke people to revolt.
  46. 0
    28 September 2022 10: 20
    Quote: also a doctor
    Potentially dangerous fellow citizens must be isolated,

    30% of fellow citizens often behave inappropriately. Did not notice?
  47. -1
    28 September 2022 10: 26
    Another genius analyst explained everything to everyone. "Possible reasons"! Security should be good. with a bulletproof glass booth, a perimeter, cameras, weapons and the authority to use them. And this is expensive (there are a lot of institutions) and scary (to distribute weapons to all the guards.

    How many of these shooters have there been? Something has changed? No. Why? Because, in general, at the top everyone is up to the door. And then there will be more, because. the smuggling of weapons from Ukraine does not stop for a day, and the more the NMD develops, the greater this flow will be.
  48. 0
    28 September 2022 10: 26
    Quote from Etwas
    Quote: Plate
    But for this it is necessary to determine the ideology itself.

    Why decide on it? All in public for all the good against all the bad.

    It is simply remarkable that when Zhirinovsky urged the Duma not to ratify the treaty of friendship and cooperation with Ukraine, since ratification automatically meant recognition of the borders, the Duma voted openly and legally for ratification. . Zhirinovsky's explanation that there will be problems in the future was ignored, the president signed. Here is your "for all the good against all the bad" in action....

    Recognition/non-recognition of borders would have no effect on the further development of events. Even then no one follows the Bible commandments, although 100% agree with them, and here is some kind of declarative agreement.

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