President of Finland: It's hard to imagine that the President of Russia would accept any kind of defeat in Ukraine

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President of Finland: It's hard to imagine that the President of Russia would accept any kind of defeat in Ukraine

Events in Ukraine since 2014 have greatly disappointed Russian President Vladimir Putin. This was stated by Finnish President Sauli Niinistö in an interview with CNN.

According to the Finnish leader, the Russian president is going to "decide now, one way or another" the consequences of 2014. Niinistö said that he had been watching Putin for many years and understood how the thinking and views of the head of the Russian state evolved.



The President of Finland believes that Putin has invested too much in the events in Ukraine. Therefore, now he will not accept "any kind of defeat." Niinistö stressed that the Russian president is a fighter, so it is very difficult to imagine how Putin will be able to accept some kind of defeat in Ukraine.

Such an approach to the Ukrainian conflict by the Russian president makes the situation around Ukraine dangerous, “very critical,” as Niinistö noted.

Perhaps there is a certain rightness in the words of the Finnish leader. But he did not mention the colossal role played by the West, including both the US and EU countries, in the escalation of confrontation in Ukraine. Also, the Finnish president did not mention that it was not Putin who made the critical situation in Ukraine, but those historical, political, cultural factors that the West is now stubbornly ignoring.

In particular, the West cannot admit that Ukraine is inhabited not only by Ukrainians (in the political aspect of the word), but also by Russians, and this population does not agree with national discrimination. The Finnish leader also forgot that not only Donetsk or Lugansk, but also Kherson, Odessa, Nikolaev, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Kirovograd and many others are Russian cities built by the Russian state, which appeared after Russia began to develop these lands.
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  1. +8
    26 September 2022 12: 53
    Sauli Niinistö should have thought about this before drawing neutral Finland into the NATO alliance, and not now hindsight about how this could end for his country.
    1. +2
      26 September 2022 16: 19
      Well, he did not draw Finland into NATO like this prime minister of theirs, in short, Zelensky in a skirt.
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 17: 58
        Quote: guest
        Well, he did not draw Finland into NATO like this prime minister of theirs, in short, Zelensky in a skirt.

        This is where the saying justifies itself: "Listen to the advice of a woman and do the opposite!"
  2. +4
    26 September 2022 12: 57
    It has long reached the macro and "liver sausage" ...., it will not reach the can due to age restrictions, and little depends on it ...., maybe the old man is not bad, only they write the wrong texts .. .., it’s definitely not getting off the tank for about four months .... So, each with his own .... well, the Finns are in Nata’s stall ....., if you change your mind, they will drive you with slippers .. .
  3. +2
    26 September 2022 12: 59
    don’t beat the date, now a fateful decision is really being made in the country and in NATO. Together with A.G. Lukashenko, to understand the situation in the world, it doesn’t say where this decision is made. Russia and Belarus are big.
    1. +1
      26 September 2022 13: 57
      The point is not "difficult", but the fact that people with brains have such garbage to themselves and "imagine" completely unnecessarily ...
  4. +2
    26 September 2022 13: 02
    Finn did not understand a damn thing. or pretended not to understand
    1. +1
      26 September 2022 14: 01
      Everything is visible there, but why are we?! hi Too short cometary.
    2. +2
      26 September 2022 14: 36
      Quote from dimbasic
      or pretended not to understand

      first, infa appears that the Swedes are slowing down with NATO, they say it is necessary for two parliaments and two cabinets of ministers to vote for this, and they wanted to join NATO with a "train", but here one ... let's see ...
  5. +2
    26 September 2022 13: 07
    President of Finland: It's hard to imagine that the President of Russia would accept any kind of defeat in Ukraine
    . Slowly, but it comes to some. The question is, what conclusions, what decisions will be taken???
  6. -7
    26 September 2022 13: 13
    It's hard to imagine the Russian president accepting some kind of defeat in Ukraine

    Still... The question of retention of power and the "infallibility" of this very power. Loss will not be forgiven even by cheers-patriots. Therefore, not by washing so by skating, but victory will be obtained. Another question: what exactly will be called "victory"? Considering Zelya's rhetoric about the return of Crimea and Donbass to Ukraine, even today's territorial acquisitions are already a kind of victory.
    But in absolute geopolitical and historical terms, even if all "square" becomes Russian territory, the victory will be for the United States. Because they managed to pit the two former republics of the USSR and thereby destroy a significant part of the Slavic (and not only) population, and sow hatred among the survivors for centuries.
    1. +7
      26 September 2022 13: 29
      Don't just talk about hatred, we fought with Chechnya twice, and now the Chechen guys are fighting shoulder to shoulder with ours. And they fight well!
      Yes, we will never remake the Westerners, we could not remake them even under the Union, but it is quite possible to remake the bulk. And there are enough freaks everywhere, we also have plenty of them, but this cannot be changed, it was, is and will be, unfortunately. No nation in the world consists of angels!
      1. +1
        26 September 2022 13: 52
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        we fought with Chechnya already twice, and now the Chechen guys are fighting shoulder to shoulder with ours.

        Chechnya is a small territory, and it is much easier to control it than Ukraine. And even now, EMNIP, the 100th corps of the RF Armed Forces, is stationed on the territory of Chechnya.
        In Soviet times, Bander was driven through the forests for decades. But then at least there was order and ideology. And with today's mess (which once again was clearly demonstrated by mobilization) and lack of ideas, how will we resist the ideology of Ukrainianism (which has grown incredibly strong with the help of the West over 20 years), given the much larger population and area of ​​​​Ukraine? Will we be able to swallow what we bit off ..?
    2. 0
      26 September 2022 13: 55
      You know what I thought... Hooray Patriot isn't such a bad name. I would even say good, but you use this expression in a pejorative sense. Why? You don't like patriots? Or the word URA?
      1. +2
        26 September 2022 14: 04
        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
        Hooray Patriot is not such a bad name. I would even say good

        "To whom the mare is a bride" (c)
        The jingoistic patriot is inclined to praise everything that concerns his country, regardless of whether the subject of "praise" is a negative or positive phenomenon. A true patriot, in my opinion, is not really afraid to criticize certain aspects of the life of his country and his society, if these aspects are really problematic and relevant.
        1. 0
          26 September 2022 14: 27
          Why are you all so quirky? A direct question was asked about what and why you do not like. And you're talking about a mare... Aren't you ashamed? I could now write an article about whiners (that is, about you), but I won’t - and so everything is clear. I read you in the news about the Kharkov offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Until now, he is taken aback - everything is gone, all the bosses are against the wall ... Ugh, my God ... Whineers.
          1. +3
            26 September 2022 14: 38
            Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
            A direct question was asked

            A straight answer was given. Who is a "hooray patriot".
            Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
            I read you in the news about the Kharkov offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Until now, he is taken aback - everything is gone, all the bosses are against the wall ...

            Personally, I did not write about the "bosses against the wall". I don't need to add too much.
            1. 0
              26 September 2022 14: 46
              Well, I repeat - "You don't like patriots? Or the word Hurray?" So my question is more clear? I didn’t write about you personally, sorry if that.
              1. +1
                26 September 2022 14: 51
                Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                You don't like patriots? Or the word Hurray?"

                Separately, I like it. But when through the dash, then not really.
                1. 0
                  26 September 2022 15: 11
                  Isn't that a reason to rename something? You take two good words and end up humiliating those words. Call me whatever you want, but don't use those words. Please.
                  1. 0
                    26 September 2022 15: 19
                    Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                    You take two good words and end up humiliating those words.

                    I humiliate words? There was a breath of Western tolerance, where certain words can no longer be spoken. And I didn't come up with that expression.
                    There are analogues: "leavened patriotism" and "turbopatriotism". Which one do you like better? Unfortunately, the word "patriot" is found again in them, and "kvass", "offending" is also worthless ... I don’t know what to do ... If I come up with something new, then they won’t understand me what I mean.
                    1. 0
                      26 September 2022 15: 29
                      Does URA meet? Don't you think that by using such expressions you are working for the enemy? I don’t understand these graters between whiners and jingoists at all ... in the end we will end up in the same trench. But people like you focus on this... Why? What is the benefit to you from this?
                      1. +1
                        26 September 2022 15: 39
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        Don't you think that by using such expressions you are working for the enemy?

                        No, I don't think so. The enemy has his jingoists. This is a universal human phenomenon.
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        we end up in the same trench.

                        If we do not notice mistakes and do not correct them, then we will find ourselves, yes. And then, due to the hushing up of problems - and in one grave.
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        But people like you focus on it...

                        Strangely, you are reacting to an expression that did not appear yesterday. Let me suggest that you are one of those people who feel the sweetness in the mouth when pronouncing the word "halva".
                      2. 0
                        26 September 2022 16: 04
                        So, as I understand you, you do not want to sit in the same trench with me. I wonder... how do you imagine it... are you digging a separate trench? Am I separate? Well, okay ... you are separate, I am separate. Who benefits? To me? To you? Or Zelensky (USA)? Think about it.
                        I do not react strangely, and far from yesterday I began to fight with this name of yours. You just got me for the first time.
                      3. +2
                        26 September 2022 17: 29
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        So, as I understand you, you do not want to sit in the same trench with me.

                        I would like to see those who are responsible for the conflicts sitting in the trenches.
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        Well, okay ... you are separate, I am separate. Who benefits? To me? To you? Or Zelensky (USA)?

                        Masons? Shadow government? Aliens?
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        far from yesterday, I began to fight with this name of yours.

                        Well, what else to fight, if not with the name?
                      4. -2
                        26 September 2022 22: 01
                        Well ... I tried to bring us to a common denominator, but apparently not fate ... You are not a good person, for your own benefit, you are ready to destroy the country. You are an egoist, your opinion is the most correct and this is beyond doubt. You are a whiner, well, I think everything is clear with this. Good luck to you.
                      5. 0
                        27 September 2022 12: 18
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        You are not a good person, for your own benefit, you are ready to destroy the country. You are an egoist, your opinion is the most correct and this is beyond doubt.

                      6. -2
                        27 September 2022 12: 59
                        Do you know what it means to wish good luck on the Internet? The fact that I no longer want to talk to you - you are waste material ... there is nothing for me to talk to you about. Once again good luck.
                      7. 0
                        27 September 2022 13: 14
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        you are waste material...

                        Do not be rude, cheers-patriot. Who here worked out is still to be seen.
                      8. for
                        +2
                        26 September 2022 23: 08
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        between whiners and jingoists.

                        Maybe not all whiners are whiners, but sane people and not all jingoistic patriots are patriots.
                        Yes, and patriotism is internal, not show-off.
      2. +4
        26 September 2022 14: 38
        Patriotism is not beautiful parades, fireworks and blah blah blah on TV. Patriotism is when pensions grow not by 200 rubles a year, but by 5 thousand, this is when they don’t collect money for the treatment of children on TV, this is when volunteers do not need to buy optics, ammunition and copters for NVO fighters, this is when sections and circles for children are free, and education and medicine are free and at a high level.
    3. 0
      26 September 2022 14: 30
      "But in an absolute geopolitical and historical sense, even if the whole" independent "becomes Russian territory, the victory will be for the United States. Because they managed to play off the two former republics of the USSR and thereby destroy a significant part of the Slavic (and not only) population, and sow hatred among the survivors for the ages."
      ****************************************************************************
      It's all lyrics, because...

      1. EXACTLY the States, AFTER THE COMPLETE and IRREVERSIBLE VICTORY of Russia on the territory of the former united Ukraine, will turn out to be the MAIN LOSSERS in the STRATEGIC plan. Having completely lost, even at the "physical" level, access to a whole geostrategic and military-strategic direction, from which it is possible to form a WHOLE RANGE (in scale and level) of threats to Russia's national security.

      2. Sour propaganda mantras about a certain "for centuries" "sown hatred" between certain "peoples" (Slavic, non-Slavic, etc.) it's time to scrap ...

      In the same Balkans, if anyone is not in the know, it is the SLAVES by origin, ALREADY FOR CENTURIES divided into Orthodox, Catholic and Muslim "population". And it is on this basis that they fight each other "until blue in the face", being included by the LEADING subjects of geopolitics in THEIR games ...

      In that Asia Minor and the Maghreb, the Arabs are Muslims (ALL are Semites ...) FOR CENTURIES they have been fighting both with each other and with the Semites THE SAME - Jews ...

      In the New World, the Anglo-Saxons fought each other for half a century for dominance in the North American colonies ...

      In Hindustan, Hindu Hindus are fighting against Pakistani Muslims. Are they ethnically very different from each other? ..

      On the territory of the former united Ukraine, "national-ethnic" turmoil "walks", let's say conditionally, from the time from Khmelnitsky to the steppe of Bandera, with intervals-stops, on all sorts of "Mazepas", "Skoropadsky" and "Senka Petliura" and "Makhno "...

      And what is "new" and "irreparable" in this for ALWAYS in the RESULT, in this direction, WIN Russia? ..

      Yes, absolutely nothing. For Russia is weak, only with a weak (ie, not understanding the objective national interests and thus betraying these interests...) CENTRAL power.

      And precisely in this, the main risks and threats for Russia, and not in "hatred" from someone's "side". Especially the defeated...

      For three or four generations (this is about 100 years) of stable control and the victor keeping his "civilizational values" in the public and mass consciousness in the territory controlled by the authorities, they firmly take root in the minds of, if not great-grandchildren, then great-great-grandchildren ...

      And "faster" in history does not happen. And the Balkans I mentioned, a GREAT example of this ...

      There today, everyone, "for their own" values, is already slaughtering each other, and at least the great-great-grandchildren of the once "ethnically united" Slavs ...

      It is the same with the Arabs ... And in Hindustan ...
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 14: 49
        Quote: ABC-schütze
        EXACTLY the States, AFTER THE FULL and IRREVERSIBLE VICTORY of Russia on the territory of the former united Ukraine

        But what does this "COMPLETE and IRREVERSIBLE VICTORY" mean? Will she? Victory not only over bodies, but also over minds? How are we going to win minds? There is no clear ideology.
        Quote: ABC-schütze
        For three or four generations (this is about 100 years) of stable control and the victor keeping his "civilizational values" in the public and mass consciousness in the territory controlled by the authorities, they firmly take root in the minds of, if not great-grandchildren, then great-great-grandchildren ...

        Will there be "stable control"? Some believe that there will be no "stability" without Putin, and he is not eternal.
        1. +1
          26 September 2022 21: 54
          "Complete and irreversible" means only that, in terms of meaning, both of these terms carry in themselves - definitions.

          At the expense of "will she"? .. The answer is YES.

          For TODAY'S Russia, REALLY and IRREVERSIBLE GAINED, the status of a REALLY SELF-SUFFICIENT power-civilization. To which it has been steadily moving for CENTURIES, but REALLY and COMPLETELY FORMED by the creation of the Red Empire, betrayed by its top "in the name" of certain "universal values" ... Which did not allow to fully use this potential to protect national interests and ensure sovereign national development. But to destroy this potential, neither the so-called. "West", nor did its Russian sixes - henchmen of the post-Soviet, pre-default period succeed. "Communism", it seems, was "won" (and this is an illusion ...), but the MAIN THING, - REAL SELF-SUFFICIENCY, presumptuously "relaxed", could not be taken away from Russia ...

          This potential for self-sufficiency is not at all characterized by a "share" in world GDP, which is what superficialists - amateurs are trying to "poke a finger", pointing to the GDP of the States, or the "growth dynamics" of the Celestial Empire ...

          Alas, neither the States nor the Celestial Empire possess (at a purely "physical" level) ALL types of resources OBJECTIVELY REQUIRED for INDEPENDENT, relying on their national potential, to achieve ALL STRATEGIC GOALS OF NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT ...

          And Russia has such resources, ALL TYPES, from natural to intellectual. And it is REALLY CAPABLE of PROTECTING them from ANY encroachments "from outside". So, no one can "prevent" SELF-SUFFICIENT Russia from formulating a policy in ANY sphere and SOVEREIGNLY defining (and achieving) STRATEGIC GOALS of national development ...

          The only thing that "can" (and will continue to do ...) is to try to "slow down" in various ways, incl. and building all sorts of "Ukrainians" along the perimeter, or the so-called. "sanctions" and other crap, it is to move a little "to the right", the deadlines for achieving the goals. But here's to disrupt their achievement, NEVER. As they say, "the train has already left" ...

          But how REALLY self-sufficient the States will be, with their "share" in the world's GDP, with the "loss" of the mime printing press, which emits oceans of greenery and yet provides the US layman with a level of well-being that protects Uncle Sam from internal social upheavals, this is a VERY BIG question .. And to what extent the States TODAY are STILL able to ensure the steadfastness of their printing press, imitating the role of "world hegemon" and dragging all the heavy global expenses associated with imitation of this role ("supported" only by their printing press ...) is also a BIG question ...

          The Celestial Empire provides its dynamics with REAL labor (production), but, alas, it, unlike Russia, is not provided with ALL the resources necessary for SELF-SUFFICIENT development ...

          We will keep silent about all sorts of "Europes" and their collective anti-Russian and anti-Chinese "tensions" ...

          Behind this, I don’t see any OBJECTIVE reasons why Russia’s achievement of the goals set for the NWO (and this is a COMPLETE victory) can be thwarted.

          Just as I do not see subjects capable of thwarting the achievement of these goals ...

          And it is precisely the STRATEGIC gain that will be here precisely for Russia, which has removed all geostrategic and military-strategic risks and threats emanating from this direction for its national security and national interests, by depriving the carriers and generators of these threats and risks of purely "physical" access to this part of the geopolitical space. And the irreversible occupation of this space. IRREVERSIBLE, if only because the bulk of the inhabitants of this space, the notorious "west" and Uncle Sam, in the STRATEGIC (and already operational) perspective, there will simply be nothing to "attract" ... On the so-called. "democratic" freedoms, "tolerance" and "rights" of pederasts (called "communities" by all sorts of people) are already few people. So, the opponents of Russia do not have a promising "value" component. There are NO OPPORTUNITIES to provide feeders for the hypothetical MASS "potentially dissatisfied" with Russia for a sane future ... And here they are already doing it AT THE DEAL OF THEIR mass layman ...

          So, "remains" for the enemies of Russia is only an attempt to win back the "power" card with the hands of the Kyiv Nazis and their feeding with the potential of their military-industrial complex (also starting to "limp" for banal economic reasons).

          And they will merge the power confrontation with Russia (which is "slowly harnessing" ...). Moreover, already without any chance for the notorious "compromises", as a rule, earlier, REALLY deprived Russia of the opportunity to use ALL the fruits of the victory achieved.

          Today, in Russia, these "compromises" are already OBJECTIVELY unnecessary. For ALL of its "democratic" "partners" have thrown off their masks openly and completely. And their UNREADiness AND INABILITY to take into account on an equal footing the national interests and needs of ensuring the national security of Russia, THEY HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED IN PRACTICE. At ALL LEVELS of politics, from national to "bloc" ...
          1. 0
            27 September 2022 12: 10
            Quote: ABC-schütze
            For TODAY'S Russia, REALLY and IRREVERSIBLE GAINED, the status of a REALLY SELF-SUFFICIENT power-civilization.

            SELF-SUFFICIENT power buying drones from Iran?
            Quote: ABC-schütze
            And Russia has such resources, ALL TYPES, from natural to intellectual.

            Possess something, but it’s impossible to fully use them wisely and profitably.
            Quote: ABC-schütze
            The STRATEGIC gain here will be precisely for Russia, which has removed all geostrategic and military-strategic risks and threats emanating from this direction for its national security and national interests, by depriving the bearers and generators of these threats and risks of purely "physical" access to this part of the geopolitical space.

            Sweden and Finland are not included, presumably, in "this part of the geopolitical space"? It turns out that we are NATO - at the door, and it - at the window. Yeah, the very one that Peter the Great cut through in the Baltic.
            Quote: ABC-schütze
            Today, in Russia, these "compromises" are already OBJECTIVELY unnecessary. For ALL of its "democratic" "partners" have thrown off their masks openly and completely.

            It's funny to read this, after the recent muddy exchange of convicted Azov residents and exchanged Medvedchuk. Expect more "compromises". Very high probability of their occurrence.
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      1. 0
        26 September 2022 15: 11
        Quote: Peter_Koldunov
        And now it remains precisely to "destroy" this vile offshoot of the Slavs, which represents the lion's share of the Sumerian population ....
        ... And now they are no longer Slavs and brothers. There is nothing fraternal, Slavic or human left in them. These are nonhumans and criminals against humanity. It's definitely down the drain.

        You would listen to yourself from the outside ... Even considering the current situation, such statements are too much. Those who support Russia in Ukraine will think...
  7. Two
    +1
    26 September 2022 13: 51
    hi Another veiled move back. Indirect recognition of the correctness of the enemy is a prerequisite for recognizing his strength and capabilities, which means quiet surrender and an expression of hope for energy supplies.
  8. -2
    26 September 2022 14: 30
    The sad Pierrot Blinken has already stated that if anything, the consequences will be horrific for Russia...
    This already gives an extreme degree of hysteria. In general, for all these bad actors from the Western theater of the absurd, hysteria has recently become a common condition.
  9. +2
    26 September 2022 14: 45
    “By God's hastening mercy, WE, NN, Emperor and Autocrat of All Russia, Moscow, Kyiv, Vladimir, Novgorod; Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Tauric Chersonis, Tsar of Georgia; Sovereign of Pskov and Grand Duke of Smolensk, Lithuanian, Volyn, Podolsk and Finland; Prince of Estonia, Livonia, Courland and Semigalsky, Samogitsky, Belostoksky, Korelsky, Tversky, Yugorsky, Permsky, Vyatsky, Bulgarian and others; Sovereign and Grand Duke of Novgorod of the Nizovsky Lands, Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslavl, Belozersky, Udorsky, Obdorosky, Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislavsky, and the entire Northern country Sovereign; and Sovereign of Iversky, Kartalinsky and Kabardian lands and regions of Armenia; Cherkasy and Mountain Princes and other hereditary Sovereign and possessor; Sovereign of Turkestan; Norwegian heir, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein, Stormarn, Ditmarsen and Oldenburg, and others, and others, and others ”(Article 59 of the Fundamental State Laws of the Russian Empire, ed. 1906)
    Something like this ... if anyone forgot.
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  10. -1
    26 September 2022 20: 51
    maybe hashtags? synaptic analysis of the neural network matrix? for the purposes of the statutory provision
  11. 0
    28 September 2022 04: 30
    Finland itself is an illegal fascist state. The myth about some kind of culture it arose due to the fact that we had a military base near Helsinki.

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