An unknown person entered a school in Izhevsk and opened fire on children

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An unknown person entered a school in Izhevsk and opened fire on children

Another emergency incident with shooting occurred in Izhevsk, an unknown person entered school No. 88 of the city and opened fire on schoolchildren there. According to the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for Udmurtia, the school is currently surrounded, and a search is underway for the intruder. Information on the victims is being specified.

At the moment, it is known that an unknown person in a black suit broke into school No. 88, located along Pushkin Street in Izhevsk, and opened fire on children. Previously, a school security guard was killed, five schoolchildren were injured. It is possible that one of the wounded girls also died, the schoolchildren themselves reported this. At present, the children have locked themselves in the classroom.

According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the shooter has not yet been detained, the school itself has been cordoned off by security forces, and the streets are blocked. Police and emergency services are on the scene. The governor of the region went to the school. Schoolchildren are being evacuated from the building, the wounded are being taken out.

It is reported that the attacker was held on the second floor of the building, but he did not intend to give up and fired back at the security forces, after which he shot himself. His identity has not yet been established, and the motive for the attack is also unclear. According to other information, there were two shooters, one was detained when he tried to get out of the school, the second shot himself.

In total, at the moment, as a result of the shooting at the school, 6 people died, three of them schoolchildren aged 10, 11 and 15. Three more dead adults - a security guard, and two - a man and a woman. Another 7 people were injured. The Ministry of Internal Affairs speaks of six dead and twenty injured.

According to the situation at school No. 88: all forces and means are involved. All special services are working on the spot, as well as an ambulance. I arrived at the scene, I will promptly report on everything that happens

- said the head of the region Alexander Brechalov.
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    1. +28
      26 September 2022 11: 24
      they are already writing about 10 dead 5ro children ..... what a geek you have to be to shoot at children then ... there is not enough anger am am
      1. -2
        26 September 2022 11: 27
        Liberal/maydaun.
        Their cuckoo is initially weak.
        And then there’s newsbreaks + autumn aggravation + they offered money ...
        1. 0
          26 September 2022 11: 28
          Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
          Liberal/maydaun.

          Again, probably the Columbiners. It is necessary to bring them down on the spot, so as not to load the court with this criminal case.
          1. +1
            26 September 2022 11: 33
            Again, probably columbiners.
            It's strange that this nonsense from the USA happens to us ...
          2. +3
            26 September 2022 11: 33
            No. Those whom you write about are desperate, harassed schoolchildren, they had no other choice.
            There is also "external penetration".
          3. +9
            26 September 2022 11: 43
            I agree. For children there should be a tower with the abolition of such a ban on death. True, as they say, he shot himself.
            1. +1
              26 September 2022 12: 14
              8 first-graders died ... this is some kind of sheer horror .. they only study at school for 3 weeks ..
              1. 0
                26 September 2022 12: 24
                Quote: Vitaliy161
                8 first-graders died ... this is some kind of sheer horror .. they only study at school for 3 weeks ..

                The death toll from the shooting at school No. 88 in Izhevsk has risen to 13, Telegram channel 112 reports. Seven children and eight adults were fatally injured.

                https://riafan.ru/23663694-chislo_pogibshih_pri_strel_be_v_izhevskoi_shkole_vozroslo_do_13
              2. +2
                26 September 2022 12: 31
                No matter how many people die or get hurt. After this, it’s worth combing through everyone who was in skins, and there are those who are stupid, but there are also odious (frostbitten) ones, so they should be well dealt with.
        2. -5
          26 September 2022 11: 36
          Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
          And then there’s newsbreaks + autumn aggravation + they offered money ...

          Or maybe this is revenge for the "revealed brothers?" Fear of being exposed if he was in a drg. Everything needs to be checked.
        3. +1
          26 September 2022 11: 41
          Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
          Liberal/maydaun.
          Their cuckoo is initially weak.
          And then there’s newsbreaks + autumn aggravation + they offered money ...

          It would be better if they didn’t write ... they would pass for a smart one, but otherwise ... a typical head and victim of the TV with the “correct” slogans.
          1. +7
            26 September 2022 12: 16
            Quote: JD1979
            It would be better not to write

            At this point in time, to create nervousness in society, the West will use all methods, including inciting various kinds of inadequacies to commit terrorist attacks. Unfortunately, the administration of such portals as YouTube, TikTok, Telegram ignores such propaganda in the comments and there is a lot of it in Russian.
        4. 0
          27 September 2022 14: 45
          Again, the liberals and the ukrobots gave you cons
      2. +17
        26 September 2022 11: 33
        You have to be a big Ukrainian.
        I don't understand why you are surprised. They targeted civilians for 8 years. Dozens of children died in Donetsk alone.
        And stop talking fairy tales about Azov and Aidar, they were the most ordinary SVushniks.
        And now the question is how special our freaks differ from their freaks.
        1. +6
          26 September 2022 11: 54
          You have to be a big Ukrainian.

          You have to be an ordinary Ukrainian: they now have joy in public there. If those who are now fleeing to Georgia, etc. they read the same publics, it’s better to let them run ..
        2. The comment was deleted.
      3. +1
        26 September 2022 11: 51
        who accepted bloody Ukrainianism as their ideology
      4. +1
        26 September 2022 12: 03
        The psycho heard that "the whole world is in ruins" and understood in his own way.
        In China, teenage gamers, lovers of shooters, are being treated.
      5. +2
        26 September 2022 12: 53
        13 people shot, not human.
        Of these, seven children.
        Then he drank himself.
        I watched the video. The corpse is in the classroom.
        All in black. On the chest - a red swastika ...
        Where did they come from, bastards?
        Yes, even in the arms capital of Russia ... am
        1. +2
          26 September 2022 21: 02
          Western values. A whole generation is infected.
      6. +1
        26 September 2022 19: 26
        Quote: Vitaliy161
        what kind of geek do you have to be to shoot at children then ... there is not enough anger

        Well, all these years, Russia, with the help of the "civilized world", has been building "democracy and freedom" in itself, now "democracy" is striding across the country with strides.
      7. 0
        27 September 2022 23: 23
        judging by the fact that you were slapped with one minus, at least one more geek is present here. but it is unlikely that he will appear to us to show himself and answer your question.
    2. +10
      26 September 2022 11: 26
      Lord, save children's lives ... A stab on a stake if they are captured alive .. Damn, when will the moratorium on the death penalty be closed ...
      1. +5
        26 September 2022 11: 27
        the duck shot himself unfortunately ..... it’s just not possible to shake it and find out where the trunks came from and why he did it ....
        1. +1
          26 September 2022 11: 47
          just don’t shake it and find out where the trunks come from and why he did it ....

          The history of the browser will say everything for him. Although it is clear where the wind blew ..
      2. DDR
        +3
        26 September 2022 11: 49
        It's time to end this moratorium
    3. +18
      26 September 2022 11: 26
      What a horror. My condolences to loved ones. sad
    4. +6
      26 September 2022 11: 28
      Today we are reaping the benefits ..... freedom of speech, the Internet and other goodies of the free Western world ... Over the past 20 years, I have not heard that in the DPRK someone was shooting children at schools ...., only for the sake of children can you lower the iron curtain ..... we don’t need such freedom as in America, where kids are also shot ....., there are no words about geyropa at all ....
      1. +19
        26 September 2022 11: 35
        In Switzerland, the same children are not shot, although the whole country is armed to the teeth!
        1. -5
          26 September 2022 11: 51
          Give Norway as an example ... Breivik as an example for you ...
          1. +3
            26 September 2022 12: 06
            Quote from uprun
            Breivik is an example for you.

            Breivik fired for political and financial reasons.
            1. +1
              26 September 2022 12: 27
              Well then, it justifies everything ....., since on political and financial problems ...
              1. -1
                26 September 2022 12: 32
                Quote from uprun
                Well then it makes sense....

                At least in his opus "My War", Breivik said that he did not like the politics of the party and government.
                1. +3
                  26 September 2022 13: 14
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  At least in his opus "My War", Breivik said that he did not like the politics of the party and government.
                  His famous predecessor also explained a lot in his opus "My Struggle", but what "at least" means here in relation to such political and financial motives, other than capital punishment, is not clear. Like, do you want to give him some more credit? To eliminate immediately such, if possible, is not necessary only to identify accomplices, and not his political and economic motives.
                  1. -1
                    26 September 2022 13: 26
                    Quote: sniperino
                    what "at least" means here in relation to such political and financial motives, other than capital punishment, is not clear.

                    This means that he did not just go and start firing left and right.
                    1. 0
                      26 September 2022 15: 06
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      This means that he did not just go and start firing left and right.
                      This "simple" only means that he would not have been able to impersonate a fool if he had survived, but it is absolutely not enough to imitate an ideological fighter against the regime by killing schoolchildren.
                      1. -1
                        26 September 2022 16: 09
                        Quote: sniperino
                        This "simple" only means that he would not have been able to play the fool if he had lived,

                        Breivik is quite alive.
                        1. 0
                          26 September 2022 18: 00
                          Quote: Mordvin 3
                          Breivik is quite alive.
                          This is about the Izhevsk bastard. Breivik, if released, will not live long, I believe.
          2. +3
            26 September 2022 12: 07
            China, Japan can be cited as an example ... there sometimes psychos in kindergartens slaughter children.
          3. +2
            26 September 2022 12: 26
            First, Norway and Switzerland are different countries. Secondly, Breivik is a mentally ill creature, there were similar ones in the USSR (Chikatilo) and even in North Korea. Understand at the end! Not some kind of iron curtain, a ban on the Internet and, as you put it, other goodies. They will not protect society and you personally from sick sociopaths. They just need to be detected in time and treated if possible. If not, then they need to be isolated from society.
            1. 0
              26 September 2022 15: 27
              Quote: Primipilus
              They just need to be detected in time and treated if possible.
              Medicines have not yet been invented: lithium does not give any reliable results. So is psychotherapy, because sociopaths are unable (or unwilling?) to establish the relationships necessary for effective psychotherapist work. Therefore - only teach and teach - the older, the tougher. Adults with such "disorders" as in this article are too late to teach, and it will not work to treat.
        2. -6
          26 September 2022 12: 09
          Not the whole country but reservists, and this is the first thing.
          And secondly, Switzerland occupies one of the leading places in the world in terms of the number of murders with weapons.
        3. +7
          26 September 2022 12: 45
          Shot with a short barrel, it is officially banned from free sale! Well, what will the supporters of "ban everyone and take away from everyone" say?
          Now I hope everyone understands that if someone wants to buy weapons to commit a terrorist attack, he will not be stopped by obstacles in the form of a ban on the sale of weapons or 100500 certificates to obtain them?
          Maybe start thinking and looking for reasons elsewhere?
      2. -3
        26 September 2022 11: 35
        And the abolition of "punitive" Soviet psychiatry.
        1. +2
          26 September 2022 14: 08
          For those who put minuses, I inform you that the bastard turns out to be registered in a psychiatric hospital, as in the previous case. Can catch these. Registered with a psychiatrist, interested in weapons and their destructive use. Don't wait for situations like this.
      3. +18
        26 September 2022 11: 40
        Quote from uprun
        we do not need such freedom as in America, where children are also shot

        I could show you that in the regional center it is a problem to find a policeman in the district. Petty scoundrels "outrageous" in the center of the district (drinking alcohol, pestering passers-by, swearing, violating the rules of walking dogs, etc.)
        Administrative violations have become the norm.
        We do not need such a law enforcement system that works only for big money!!!
        1. -3
          26 September 2022 12: 31
          Quote: yuriy55
          We do not need such a system of law enforcement

          Parents should educate petty scoundrels, not drive cops. And your comment is a clear hint leading the idiots who committed the terrorist attack under discussion to such actions!
          1. 0
            26 September 2022 14: 17
            Quote: sir.jonn
            Petty scoundrels should be raised by parents

            “Small” is according to their deeds, and not by age ...
            Quote: sir.jonn
            And your comment is a pure hint of a host of idiots

            I can regard yours as empty talk ...
            hi
        2. 0
          26 September 2022 13: 53
          Quote: yuriy55
          drink alcohol, pester passers-by, use foul language, violate the rules for walking dogs, etc.
          Administrative violations have become the norm.
          Since when did citizens violate the rules for walking dogs, drinking alcohol in places prohibited for this purpose and turning on a bull after that became commonplace for you? Have you already been born by this time? Or already in adolescence, interest in the topic appeared and these violations began to be noticed
          1. -1
            26 September 2022 14: 20
            Quote: sniperino
            Since when did citizens violate the rules for walking dogs, drinking alcohol in places prohibited for this purpose and turning on a bull after that became commonplace for you?

            Since the time when the police stopped responding to it.
            My wife took my word that I would not take over their functions at the age of 70 ... So she said - Enough! I want to live in peace!
            1. -1
              26 September 2022 15: 41
              Quote: sniperino
              This is from what time
              Quote: yuriy55
              From that very...
              I understand that chronology is not yours, casuistry is closer to you.
              1. 0
                26 September 2022 15: 49
                Quote: sniperino
                I understand that chronology is not yours, casuistry is closer to you.

                You know, the new is the well-forgotten old.
                I sincerely apologize for not keeping a diary - not (leisure).
                hi
      4. +8
        26 September 2022 12: 31
        "... Over the past 20 years, I have not heard that in the DPRK someone shot children in schools ...., only for the sake of children can the iron curtain be lowered again ..."

        And you won’t hear it. The Iron Curtain is like that. In the USSR, more than 5 people were also secretly killed in car accidents. This is so, for example. There are dangerously sick people in any country and under any regime.
    5. +8
      26 September 2022 11: 28
      Hello to our ideologists, they raised a society with porridge in the head.
      1. +1
        26 September 2022 11: 45
        Quote: IvanIvanov
        Hello to our ideologists, they raised a society with porridge in the head.

        Hello to those who announced about:
        Article 13
        1. The Russian Federation recognizes ideological diversity.
        2. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory.

        This porridge is from the variety of cereals from which it is cooked ...
    6. +12
      26 September 2022 11: 29
      Health to the wounded, patience to parents. Retribution to the organizers. I hope God will punish as in Scripture, up to the 7th generation. There was no hope left for the human court.
    7. +5
      26 September 2022 11: 30
      The bastard was shot. It's a pity. It would be interesting to know the circle of like-minded people. And where did he get the two pistols from.
      1. +6
        26 September 2022 11: 31
        where did he get the two pistols from.
        Have you heard of DarkNet?
        1. +4
          26 September 2022 11: 33
          well, it may also turn out that the trunks from Krayna also arrived - the first echoes of the sale of weapons that were uncontrollably handed out to everyone there ...
          1. +2
            26 September 2022 11: 34
            well, it may also turn out that the trunks came from Krayna
            It could even be.
          2. +10
            26 September 2022 12: 09
            There and in Izhevsk there are enough weapons, the plant is nearby!
            It's not the gun that kills, it's the shooter...
            Lack of their own ideology and upbringing, somewhere, probably, and health care (a normal person will not kill children). There is no ideology, which means it will be alien and alien to us! Here, as Napoleon used to say - if you don’t want to feed your army, you will feed someone else’s!
        2. -1
          26 September 2022 12: 45

          Have you heard of DarkNet?
          There they throw (deceive), but do not sell.
          1. +3
            26 September 2022 12: 51
            There they throw (deceive), but do not sell.
            I'm afraid to even ask how you know this?
            1. 0
              26 September 2022 13: 01
              how do you know this?
              1. Forum of online scammers.
              2. The report of the police officers who unsuccessfully tried to conduct a test purchase was covered in the media approx. years ago.
              3. I can buy and carry at home in the store (but only sober sad ).
              1. +1
                26 September 2022 13: 10
                1. Forum of online scammers.2. The report of the police officers who unsuccessfully tried to conduct a test purchase was covered in the media ca. years ago.
                Completed transactions do not fall into this category a priori.
                1. 0
                  26 September 2022 13: 16
                  completed transactions are not included
                  As far as I remember, the police tried several times to buy in order to reach the seller - the result was the same. Failed to take scammers laughing . And indeed, if the client transfers money in advance for such a specific product (not drugs, which is constantly needed), then why should he give this product away? Useful yourself. The client, of course, will not go to the police either. Although, they say, there are honest hucksters (as there is non-alcoholic vodka wassat ). But no one came across.
                  1. +1
                    26 September 2022 15: 04
                    the police tried several times to buy in order to reach the seller, the result was the same.
                    If it were possible, would they not sell drugs there, or do you think the darknet works with weapons in a different way? In general, nonsense, you will not deny the existence of illegal arms trafficking? What is the safest way to trade?
                    1. 0
                      26 September 2022 15: 12
                      do not sell drugs there
                      Drugs are needed every day (usually) - so it's better to get a flow of loyal satisfied customers, and throwing 20-50 pounds is not worth the effort. But with weapons, the situation is completely different. I do not argue that an honest huckster laughing , who received from you about a thousand for a promise to fit the barrel, his promise will be fulfilled, but the probability of this is extremely low. Weapons are bought the old fashioned way, from hand to hand, through reliable acquaintances. Again, drug users aren't shy about leaving reviews online, but gun users aren't that stupid.
                      1. +1
                        26 September 2022 15: 33
                        Weapons are bought the old fashioned way, from hand to hand, through reliable acquaintances.
                        Well, well, this is when everyone knows each other, and a friend is reliable only until the prostate is heated with a soldering iron.
      2. +6
        26 September 2022 11: 47
        Quote: Servisinzhener
        where did he get the two pistols from.

        The suspect in the shooting at school N88 in Izhevsk was armed with traumatic pistols converted to live ammunition
    8. +1
      26 September 2022 11: 34
      Anyway, after all, he shot himself anyway, cychonok! Why take children's lives with you???
      And so the head hurts from the off-scale number of non-humans from the neighboring country, who kill children with jokes ... so also the same non-humans roam in their own!
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 11: 36
        Why take children's lives with you???
        Absolutely senseless crime.
    9. +7
      26 September 2022 11: 36
      And do not say that these are psychos of a loner. All forces are thrown against us. Their goal: We must bring society out of balance, by any means. Even the most barbaric.
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 11: 46
        Here on the forum, under the news that a shooting at a school was prevented, some members of the forum wrote that it was the special services themselves who invented everything in order to get another "asterisk". Moreover, this was not written by stray ephemera.
      2. -1
        26 September 2022 12: 39
        "And do not say that these are psychos of a loner. All forces are thrown against us ..."

        And when shooting at schools in America, is it also someone who throws up forces or are they just shit like that on their own?
    10. +5
      26 September 2022 11: 38
      Health, health, health to the wounded! Calm down, Lord! slain souls, forgive them their sins, voluntary and involuntary!
    11. +8
      26 September 2022 11: 41
      But we have a million-strong army of guards guarding goods, money bags, etc.
      1. +2
        26 September 2022 11: 43
        But we have a million-strong army of guards guarding goods, money bags, etc.

        Previously, school security guard killed
      2. Tim
        +5
        26 September 2022 11: 45
        We have security guards in schools without weapons. There are no comments here!
      3. +4
        26 September 2022 11: 51
        Do you propose to pester each child of a security guard? The school security guard was the first to die by the way!
        1. +1
          26 September 2022 13: 36
          You don't need a security guard for every child - you just need to re-approach the issue of access to school.

          1) the entrance must be duplicated by a gate or a second door that opens only after closing one of them, excluding a through fast passage, with the possibility of video surveillance.
          Installation of sensors on metal and explosives is recommended.

          2) the guard should not sit on the aisle or stand at the gate, if he is alone, then even more so.

          The place of the security guard is behind the control panel and near the "panic button" away from the entrance, with the obligatory ability to block all doors on the floors of the school.

          3) the age may be retirement, but it is obligatory for the security guard to know the sequence of actions and check them once every half a year by the police department, taking into account in the journal and the personal responsibility of the inspectors.
          1. 0
            26 September 2022 13: 41
            You just described a school in Sueto, South Africa.
            1. -1
              26 September 2022 13: 59
              No, these are modern protection capabilities, with no less increased capabilities of ghoul killers and ideological maniacs of our time.

              And by the way, in some schools there is something similar, at least they are trying to restrict access, and even parents need to submit an application to the teacher and sign in the security journal, although this is certainly not the case.

              Hollywood movies and wild games like GTA litter the minds of children immensely.

              But not children can try to do something that is not good, and this is more dangerous.
              1. 0
                26 September 2022 14: 04
                Hollywood Movies and Wild Games Like GTA Clog Kids' Minds
                I imagine what In your, influenced by the music of Freddie Mercury wassat
                1. +1
                  26 September 2022 14: 57
                  Quote: Bolt Cutter
                  I imagine what In your, influenced by the music of Freddie Mercury wassat

                  And Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky. wink
                  1. 0
                    26 September 2022 15: 22
                    your "subtle" trolling is understandable.
                    There is no ban on music in Russia, unlike "propaganda" ..... :))
                2. 0
                  26 September 2022 15: 07
                  I somehow respect Viktor Tsoi more than your Freddie Mercury, and in contrast I don’t know what he has .... here the taste is not a pointer to the taste.


                  And the debility American films, where they rob and piss from right to left - they definitely do.

                  And I do not deny that there are worthy pictures, but children remember "extremes" because of children's maximalism.

                  By the way, domestic "blind man's buffs" are no better or a "brigade"
                  1. 0
                    26 September 2022 19: 07
                    Quote: valentin light
                    By the way, domestic "blind man's buffs" are no better or a "brigade"

                    And since when "Zhmurki" became a film for children? belay
                    Oh yeah, I forgot - now it's all personalities, and parental control is personal violence.
                    1. 0
                      26 September 2022 20: 23
                      No, it's not about "now all individuals",
                      And in the absence of "parental control" on TVs in families where children "learn" on the street more than at home.
              2. 0
                26 September 2022 15: 02
                Quote: valentin light
                Hollywood movies and wild games like GTA litter the minds of children immensely.

                Well, if you reduce the upbringing of children to on you tablet and fuck off - and you can't get that.
                And in the end there will be too Wasted - and without respawn in the nearest hospital.
    12. +5
      26 September 2022 11: 45
      No matter how the modern authorities and the lured "elite" of the USSR do not scold, they say the scoop and so on, but this definitely did not happen, although there were psychos then, but they were specifically dealt with.
      This is the second incident of its kind in a day. The feeling ... went to pieces ...
      1. -4
        26 September 2022 11: 48
        although there were psychos then, they were specifically dealt with.
        Nobody canceled the switchmen in the USSR, they shot the innocent before they caught the Chikatilo?
        1. +1
          26 September 2022 11: 57
          and how much? one hundred thousand or more? or still one
          1. 0
            26 September 2022 12: 30
            Even instead of chikatila, they grabbed downs. They have the brains of a three-year-old child, they signed everything. Grassroots honest cops detained Chikatila on the spot, and the fabricators of cases were released - they had a whole gang of downs, they themselves admitted.
    13. +2
      26 September 2022 11: 47
      1. it was necessary to put armed guards in schools for a long time, at least two
      2. actions to tighten gun ownership may have been correct, but private security guards and not hunters and others suffered, now you need two medical certificates that duplicate each other's drug control ... The price is huge, but the guards are not at all in business, they were not involved in incidents with weapons ... And they are all one size fits all
      Khinshtein needs to pay attention to this, the price of medical certificates is only growing and their number is also growing
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 19: 06
        Armed guards in schools are not allowed.
        For example, weapons are not issued to police officers at mass events, and precisely because of possible extra casualties.
        1. 0
          26 September 2022 19: 14
          And children are dying en masse due to the fact that no one can give an adequate rebuff
          Let's not stupidly fence and mix mass events in the square where there are thousands of people and the hall of the school where there was no one at the time of the attack, a psycho walked around and shot
          1. 0
            26 September 2022 20: 43
            don't say what you don't understand, please.
            The guard will not be able to use the weapon first if he lets him close to him, and the ricochet or the children who are on the line will cause new victims.

            Who guarantees you that the attack will be in "laboratory conditions" when none of the children will be around?
            School is not barn guarding.
            In addition, the selected weapon will be an addition to the criminal's arsenal.
            If the follower is nearby, then the guard will not do anything.
            Therefore, its function is to monitor and block electronically the doors on the floors or at the entrance and call the police.
            The guards themselves should not, like a porter, sit at the entrance.
            1. 0
              26 September 2022 20: 45
              I see you understand a lot, giving children to psychos
              1. 0
                27 September 2022 09: 39
                Whoever expresses himself clearly has clearer thoughts.
                Your words, "you understand a lot, giving children to psychos", are not clear in essence, nor in our dialogue!

                I offer naturally a real way to protect children - these are modern systems and security.
                The task of the school security guard is to prevent a person who illegally entered the school premises from reaching the children, blocking the doors on the floors in order to prevent an intruder, as well as calling the police.

                A shootout between a guard and a criminal is inappropriate (unacceptable) here, and ineffective.
                Then do not forget (if you knew, of course) that the right of the first shot belongs to the guard and just to a person with a weapon, in peacetime, we do not have by law and the guard will not shoot at the first stranger who does not appear ....
                The school will not be able to hire certified security guards if it is not a lyceum for the rich.

                There should be a card on which school employees and students go to school and photos and data about the person appear on the monitor of the security guard, so it will be impossible to use someone else's "pass". And these are modern and simple technologies.
                By the way, there can and probably should be information about former students.
                And there should not necessarily be a "through passage", only through two doors or a gate and a door.
                1. 0
                  27 September 2022 09: 44
                  While you write and think without taking any action, children and teachers continue to die
                  There is no single recipe, but the armed guards are actually a real shield, although not ideal, by the way, it was the weapons at the school that helped to neutralize the criminal in the last emergency at the school, right at school they shot in the leg, and if it weren’t for the weapon, there would have been even more victims
                2. 0
                  27 September 2022 10: 02
                  Blocking? It's a good thing, but a criminal can also shoot through cracks, through windows, without encountering a rebuff...
                  While nothing is being done, children and teachers are dying, armed guards are most effective in such cases, albeit not ideal
                  It was the shooting at the criminal at the school that prevented a larger tragedy at the school in the last case.
                  Yes, and pass laws expanding the scope of the use of firearms in the law on private security, otherwise with these laws it is easier for the guard to shoot himself, where there are only two points for the use of attackers when their own life is in direct danger (other lives are not mentioned) and when there is armed or group attack on protected property ... There is also for signaling a shot in the air
        2. 0
          26 September 2022 19: 15
          And by the way, at mass events, some security forces are armed, and even with machine guns and machine guns
          1. 0
            27 September 2022 09: 53
            Machine guns? .... well, then it’s only in Ukraine. :))

            Look at the laws of the Russian Federation and in particular the "Law on Police" and everything is there.


            In crowded places, employees operate without weapons, but cover may be outside the event.
            1. 0
              27 September 2022 10: 09
              You know a lot, but not everything, you know the laws on the police, but once the 9th KGB department did not know the laws, if there were any ...
              I once participated in the Parade on November 7, I saw machine gunners and machine gunners, and snipers at the mausoleum, and there were military weapons at the cordon, I don’t remember who it was, either from the Dzerzhinsky division, or from the 9th KGB department, but also in Russia too, there are many, many photos of snipers on the walls of the Kremlin on the Internet, everything is relative
      2. +2
        26 September 2022 19: 16
        Quote: Saboteur_Navy
        1. it was necessary to put armed guards in schools for a long time, at least two


        Let's count to understand that this is unrealistic.
        There are 40 schools in Russia x 2 guards + 1 replacement guard = 120 armed guards.
        And in Russia there are 6 thousand universities with branches and institutions of secondary vocational education (often with several buildings for one university and several entrances for one building). This means plus at least 30 more guards.
        In total, 150 thousand armed guards are needed, and this is half of the number of mobilized currently planned.
        And we haven't counted 58 more kindergartens.
        1. -1
          26 September 2022 19: 22
          Guards were found in Israel, I’ll reveal an Israeli secret to you there, even armed guards guard public transport, 150 thousand is nothing for Russia
          1. +1
            26 September 2022 21: 12
            Quote: Saboteur_Navy
            Guards were found in Israel, I’ll reveal an Israeli secret to you there, even armed guards guard public transport, 150 thousand is nothing for Russia


            In Israel all schools are surrounded by a fence of 2,5 - 3 meters with by one by the gate that sits in the booth one armed guard, locks after school starts, opens after school ends. Or he opens the late student, whom he is obliged to know by sight, or checks against the lists and calls to the secretary of the school, and immediately locks the gate behind the latecomer.
            If someone outside (not a student or a teacher) comes to the school in the middle of the school day, the guard opens the gate only if there is an entry permit signed by the school secretary.
            If a student needs to leave school in the middle of the school day, they must present a signed exit permit from the class teacher.
            If the municipality agrees to pay for a second security guard, then there can be two gates at the school.
            The security guard in the booth also monitors security cameras outside and inside the school.

            The entrance to the Israeli school looks like this.


            Therefore, if we appeal to the Israeli experience, it is necessary not to increase the number of armed guards, but to enclose all Russian schools with three-meter fences, provide them with security cameras, and copy the Israeli system of school entry and exit.
            1. +1
              27 September 2022 09: 59
              you perfectly parried the commentator who advocated for armed guards!

              A school shootout between a security guard and a criminal is inappropriate for the safety of children and can be ineffective, and maintaining certified security guards is expensive!
              1. 0
                27 September 2022 10: 17
                He did not retort anything, but confirmed that in Israel all schools are guarded by security guards with weapons.
                Expensive? If you don’t steal, there will be enough money, money was found in Israel
                1. +1
                  27 September 2022 10: 25
                  strange.
                  didn't you understand when you read it?


                  Here are the words - "...
                  Therefore, if we appeal to the Israeli experience, it is necessary not to increase the number of armed guards, but to enclose all Russian schools with three-meter fences, provide them with security cameras, and copy the Israeli system of school entry and exit.


                  What more?!!!
                  1. 0
                    27 September 2022 10: 30
                    But the guard is armed there, and sometimes, as I was told, not only with a combat Beret with 16 rounds, like in a clip, but also with a machine gun, or even with both. NO QUESTIONS DO AS IN ISRAEL, THE EXPERIENCE IS GOOD!
                    In Israel, in general, everyone is armed like that, and everything is OK, but the terrorists there don’t care
        2. +1
          27 September 2022 09: 44
          It may be better to invest in operational work. Which can be largely automated. Working with risk groups. And for which it will be necessary much less people and means than for the organization of perimeter protection.
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      1. +4
        26 September 2022 11: 51
        Our valiant deputies stopped this possibility in the bud by adopting the necessary amendments to the law on weapons.
        Laws are for the law-abiding, the rest do not care who takes what there.
    15. 0
      26 September 2022 11: 51
      An unknown person entered a school in Izhevsk and opened fire on children
      .
      So what???
      Autumn exacerbation against the backdrop of a general tense situation in the country.
      Now anything can happen!
      And again the question is ... what measures can be taken to protect educational institutions from terrorist attacks and other troubles ???
      1. CYM
        -1
        26 September 2022 12: 59
        Quote: rocket757
        And again the question is ... what measures can be taken to protect educational institutions from terrorist attacks and other troubles ???
        Don't worry about this, now "our" legislators will come up with something urgently. For example, they will put three unarmed guards in each school instead of two (two guards were among the dead). They will increase the age for obtaining a gun permit to 30 years. They will strengthen the medical examination when issuing gun permits, such as a CT scan of the brain or trepanation to detect criminal inclinations. But seriously, there is no hope for early detection and prevention of such attacks by our security forces. Therefore (IMHO), in every educational institution, at least for the time of the NMD, it is necessary to put a post (posts) of the state armed guards: the police, the National Guard, the FSB, the FSO, and at least the presidential regiment. And give the guards the right to shoot to kill if an armed attack is suspected. After a few shootings, the fashion for columbine should pass, as well as the habit of outsiders (dog lovers, athletes, local drunks and drug addicts ...) to stagger on the territory of educational institutions.
        1. +1
          26 September 2022 13: 21
          We'll see again and again ... what else can you write???
    16. +2
      26 September 2022 11: 52
      one was detained

      Right there, at the school, in front of everyone, cut this beast into cubes and feed it to the dogs!
      No courts! The bastard doesn't deserve to be judged!
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 13: 27
        "Right at the school.. cut into cubes.."
        Yes, God be with you, what are you saying?

        Who will we bring up then, the same maniacs?


        It is enough to line up all the robbers in the prison and shoot them before the formation, so that they tell each other.
        1. -1
          26 September 2022 13: 50
          Perhaps about "near school" I could not restrain my emotions. But otherwise. This nonentity, before he gets to hell (and he has a direct road there), must experience real hell on earth during his lifetime!
    17. +1
      26 September 2022 11: 53
      That's who we brought up by showing American films.
      1. +4
        26 September 2022 11: 54
        Yes, NTV will give everyone a head start with its repertoire
    18. +1
      26 September 2022 11: 53
      Surely the SBU worked with the geek. their handwriting
    19. +4
      26 September 2022 11: 54
      The kingdom of heaven to the lost children and adults.
    20. +1
      26 September 2022 11: 55
      It's scary to think what's going on with your parents...
    21. -1
      26 September 2022 12: 04
      The parents of this ka should be shot in public. It cannot be that this cattle did not show their intentions in advance.
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    23. -2
      26 September 2022 12: 21
      14 have already died. But he shot from a Makarov pistol and judging by the photo there are still full stores there. And if he had a machine gun
    24. +2
      26 September 2022 12: 30
      I have always believed that access to the school should be limited by means of identification and double doors / gates, and the guard should be at a distance in a secure and specially equipped "panic button" and surveillance system, with the ability to block the doors on the floors.
      1. Tim
        -1
        26 September 2022 12: 50
        Unfortunately, in practice in Russia, in most educational institutions, everything is sad. An elderly man or woman in the form of a security guard, an alarm button if it still exists or is in working condition, a stationary or manual metal detector and that's it!
        1. +2
          26 September 2022 13: 12
          It is sad that, having technical capabilities, they are not used, referring to the low budget of the school or remoteness from service centers, and even to the negligence of the administration.

          I consider it useful to legislate the obligation of the Regions to establish modern checkpoints in schools and kindergartens and colleges, and to equip them.
          And the non-departmental Okhrana or the district police should install "alarm buttons" at the expense of budgetary funds, even in villages.
          1. 0
            26 September 2022 16: 25
            Even from the image from the video cameras you can recognize bad intentions, about ten years ago they wrote that such systems already exist in Israel. The criminal is determined by facial expressions and trembling of the body and head, almost like dogs catch a drunk drunk passerby.
      2. 0
        26 September 2022 13: 56
        I think that it is better not to arrange access control and equip security systems like at power plants or pumping stations, but to spend this money on operational work. Clearly this man was not stewing in his own head. He was supposed to have thematic communication with characters of similar views. Who told him where to find live ammunition, who would turn the injury into a combat pistol. Persuasion guided his outlook on life. And so on and so forth.
        It is necessary to identify such sites and screw the participants. And the more skilled in the subject, the longer.
        This will be much cheaper and more efficient.
        1. 0
          26 September 2022 15: 38
          I wanted to close the topic, but I will answer your comment.
          Your words - "... there should have been a thematic communication with characters of similar views. Who told him where to find live ammunition, ...."

          1) A mentally ill person may not communicate with anyone.
          2) A mentally ill person may not be registered, since under certain conditions he is an ordinary citizen.

          3) it is not difficult to get cartridges, as practice shows that everyone bought their weapons Legally.

          4) A mentally ill person will NOT remake the trauma, he will already be with a combat one into a "targeted villain".

          Based on this, it is necessary to strengthen control and further bureaucratize some aspects such as self-defense and hunting, which will affect law-abiding citizens ..
          Conducting medical examinations in the likeness of a medical examination with a state mark is a must - this will affect rights and freedoms and increase costs.
          It is necessary to conduct round-the-clock monitoring of all Internet resources and mobilize an army of admins.

          It’s easier to install doors and metal detectors and "panic buttons" with video surveillance and blocking doors - there are fewer schools than people in society and they are centralized in terms of supply.

          And there is still the risk of sabotage .....
          1. 0
            27 September 2022 23: 33
            and further bureaucratize some aspects such as self-defense and hunting, which will affect law-abiding citizens.

            there is already a complete polar fox in the new edition of the law on weapons. and all these obstacles will not complicate the actions of scumbags in the least, but will turn the life of normal gun owners into hell. At the same time, they will greatly raise (no) the loyalty of these people to power.
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      1. -1
        26 September 2022 13: 01
        Duc most likely this animal from the other side pinned down. For Ukronazis, killing a child is par for the course. Although this creature and animals to call too honorable. I can't find the right word for this bastard... to let the censors through.
        1. +2
          26 September 2022 13: 21
          No local.
          Artem Kazantsev, born in 1988, a native of the city of Izhevsk, a graduate of this school.
          1. 0
            26 September 2022 13: 54
            Artem Kazantsev, born in 1988, Izhevsk

            I hope the residents of Izhevsk know how "bury"this bastard!
    26. +1
      26 September 2022 12: 58
      School number 88. Tried to kill 14 people. Hitler fan?
    27. +1
      26 September 2022 13: 05
      .. shot himself .. bastard .. or helped to shoot himself so as not to delay .. I don’t know .. imagine yourself in the place of the guys who came to this school to take him .. And saw the kids shot by this scum .. You think they really wanted him alive take? I definitely would not have restrained myself .. but, thank God, I’m not there .. Where does this come from at all ?!
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 14: 12
        D'abord il faut le faire parler...après vous en faite ce que vous voulez.
        La visiblement pour le faire parler cela va être difficile :-)

        First you need to get him to talk ... after you do whatever you want with him.
        Obviously, getting him to talk will be difficult :-)
        1. +1
          26 September 2022 15: 50
          Then they can tell a lot of things .. But more and more it seems to me that the point is not in the propaganda of violence, not in some kind of insults .. It seems that someone is practicing the practice of zombifying a person. That's real. programming. then a command is simply given, the trigger works and that's it .. Like in a movie, remember - "Go to Astra .. go to Astra"
          1. +1
            27 September 2022 23: 51
            I am sure that the curators have a base of scumbags pre-processed and choose the right one from this base to start in order to create a "frightening incomprehensibility" effect of coincidences, if possible, and simply show their ability to harm. Coincidentally, specific examples:

            Kerch shooter October 17 surname Roslyakov.
            Dock drowning with Kuzey Roslyakovo October 30

            Launching of the nuclear submarine "Kazan" on May 7 and shooting in Kazan on May 11

            "Magic Coincidences" In fact, if there are ready-made processed "recruits" in the curator's database, it theoretically allows how to spoil some positive event in a short time by activating those suitable for "coincidence" by the place or name of the performer, or to plan some kind of nasty thing based on the ability to associate it with activated shooting .
            If we accept the fact of such coincidences as not accidental, then the following conclusions follow:
            1. For a long time and systematically, work has been carried out to identify and process future recruits, followed by their "conservation" and activation at the required time and place
            2. there are means of supplying recruits with equipment and weapons, that is, one way or another there are agents in the country
            3. Zombification techniques have been developed and the signs of the target group are well defined for whom this technique works
            4. there are information channels for recruitment and processing that give stable results
            Something like this. Everyone should work with this, and I hope that the relevant authorities are working. It is necessary to block this zombie shop and not introduce stupid draconian measures against law-abiding weapon owners. But after all, it is more difficult to search for and eliminate recruitment networks than to report on the adoption of stupid restrictive measures, albeit ineffective but beautiful for show.
      2. +2
        26 September 2022 16: 27
        In the previous case, the traffic police officer acted very professionally, like, out of 8 shots, 6 hits, one of the shots deprived the terrorist of his leg.
        1. 0
          27 September 2022 01: 24
          Now it seems that the court is going on this one-legged ... so that he dies in the cell.
    28. +2
      26 September 2022 13: 06
      I arrived at the scene, I will promptly report on everything that happens
      How many times have I watched the picture when such "high assistants" only interfere with professionals "doing" their job!
    29. +2
      26 September 2022 13: 15
      How many more times do you have to get burned to realize that the protection of schools must be taken seriously?!
    30. +2
      26 September 2022 13: 50
      Quote: Vladimir Michailovich
      Switzerland ranks among the world's top gun homicides

      Where does such data come from? You are confusing gun homicides with gun deaths. Homicide (all) in Switzerland 0,54 per 100 people And, the death rate from gunshots is 000. And this is a very low figure, given the high percentage of gun ownership (approx. 2,64%) of the population. And, in the US, homicides and deaths are 30 and 5,35 respectively.
    31. +3
      26 September 2022 13: 59
      Because the guards are not specialists, but retired old people or fat lazy people are sitting "just to be" for show.
    32. +1
      26 September 2022 14: 03
      we need to check the version of the Ukronazi trail,
      1. +1
        26 September 2022 14: 16
        Même si cette piste était la bonne aucun medias occidental ne le dira :-(

        Even if this track was correct, no western media would talk about it :-(
        1. +2
          26 September 2022 19: 47
          They called the Beslan terrorists "fighters for independence" and they don't give a damn about that.
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    34. 0
      26 September 2022 14: 07
      Most likely, people in the military registration and enlistment office and in this school are mentally unstable, maybe with some kind of deviation. It is unlikely that this is due to SVO and other things. People just go nuts against the backdrop of ongoing events.
    35. +1
      26 September 2022 19: 16
      I appeal to the animals that gave birth to this creature. Go kill yourself against the wall, strangle yourself or something, but go to hell, Go to hell with your slut!
    36. -1
      26 September 2022 20: 31
      I wonder how a person who was registered with the PND got two injuries?
    37. 0
      27 September 2022 01: 22
      Quote: Sauron80
      Shot with a short barrel, it is officially banned from free sale! Well, what will the supporters of "ban everyone and take away from everyone" say?

      Those who were killed by this schizophrenic Nazi did not have a short barrel.
      In general, they were defenseless ... in those three minutes before the arrival of the police, he managed to kill 17 people ... so all these prohibitions only play into the hands of the killers.
      Surely the bastard had a left barrel.
      If the state is not able to protect our children and our lives from massacres, then something must be done about it.
      1. 0
        28 September 2022 08: 45
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Surely the bastard had a left barrel.


        On TV they reported two reworked injuries.

        Quote: Lech from Android.
        the state is unable to protect

        How can you protect it? It seems they rushed at all times, but such ...

        Another thing is why the passage is open.
        If it were closed there, if it didn’t turn away, it would give time for a reaction (evacuation, calling the police (they will arrive faster, less damage)), but these are questions for school principals (I saw this only in one).

        And yes, I think that if every resident of the country was sent to a psychiatrist every N years (there is a medical examination), there would be chances that he would have been closed a long time ago.
    38. 0
      27 September 2022 06: 19
      Is it time to turn schools into fortified castles? And in general, in several regions, "sacred murders" at once is not a new "manual" from spiritual "partners" ??? what
      1. 0
        28 September 2022 08: 46
        Locks or not, but the doors would be locked.
        And schoolchildren will not run around smoking, and this will also become not impossible, but more difficult.
    39. Is2
      0
      27 September 2022 14: 15
      What kind of animal kills children I feel very sorry for the children and their families
    40. 0
      27 September 2022 14: 47
      In 2014, when the Ukrainians fired mortars at the kindergarten, ours got in touch with the Ukrainians, they say, what are you doing, there are children there. They replied that they were not children. These are Muscovites. And they began to shoot further
    41. 0
      28 September 2022 08: 36
      I've been thinking.
      Are gates open in schools all over the country?
      At 9, classes began, so close and do not open them until the shift change.

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