“We meet reinforcements all the way”: a summary of the course of the special operation of the RF Armed Forces in Krasny Liman and on other fronts

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“We meet reinforcements all the way”: a summary of the course of the special operation of the RF Armed Forces in Krasny Liman and on other fronts

The Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to make attempts to break through the line of defense of the Russian troops in a number of directions, intending to capture as many territories as possible before the onset of the autumn thaw and before the arrival of new forces from the mobilized fighters.

The most difficult situation is typical for Krasny Liman. This city, after the withdrawal of the troops of the RF Armed Forces from the Kharkov direction, is a key point of defense on the southern flank of the units that retreated across the Oskol River. The enemy could not succeed in attacking this settlement from the south; at present, the main enemy forces are thrown at the city from the west in an attempt to surround this "citadel". Russian troops are putting up tough resistance, replenishing with fresh forces.



On the entire route of our journey, we meet moving reinforcements for our group, designed to prevent the encirclement of Krasny Liman.

- reports the military commander of the NM DPR.

Near Donetsk, reconnaissance noticed a concentration of Ukrainian troops intended for a surprise attack on the positions of the Russian Armed Forces. Timely development of artillery and aviation places where the enemy was concentrated bled him even before the start of the offensive, completely frustrating the plans of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In the Ugledar direction, the enemy tried to advance towards the Russian positions. Three columns were formed, thrown into a breakthrough from Pavlovka, but the enemy was defeated, including thanks to the work of Ka-52 attack helicopters.

On the Nikolaev-Kryvyi Rih sector of the front, high combat activity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine remains, but Russian troops firmly hold defensive lines.

Subversive attacks by units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will continue. So, in Melitopol, while preparing a terrorist attack, a Ukrainian militant died due to careless handling of explosives. Despite attempts by the Kyiv regime to intimidate the population of Donbass and the liberated territories, a referendum on joining the Russian Federation continues.

A number of losses of the RF Armed Forces in aviation were recorded, while there were no casualties among the pilots. The West is helping the Kyiv regime to recreate a full-fledged air defense system. It is reported that the US-Norwegian NASAMS air defense systems have already arrived in Ukraine. Currently, weak air defense does not allow the enemy to effectively intercept strike drones "Geran-2", which in recent days have been actively used by the Russian military to hit targets behind the front line.

The first stage of partial mobilization is almost completed. At the same time, a number of shortcomings made by the military commissariats were revealed. Incorrect directives of some local logistics services when recruiting military personnel in a number of regions led to discontent among the population; a certain resonance was caused by the mobilization campaign in Dagestan - some residents took to the streets with protests, who were not explained the provisions of partial mobilization. The timely intervention of the authorities made it possible to eliminate the existing shortcomings. Increasingly, people come to military registration and enlistment offices not even on a summons, but voluntarily. For four days - more than 12 thousand volunteers, who are registered according to all the rules of partial mobilization - as contract servicemen.

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  1. +44
    25 September 2022 20: 58
    "Geranium-2" went well. While the Kyiv partners have not found effective opposition to it, it is necessary to apply it massively.
    1. +15
      25 September 2022 21: 03
      Judging by the example with Armenia, kamikaze drones go well against an enemy with practically no air defense. If so, then the only effective countermeasure is the restoration of a normal air defense system. But how will they do it?
      1. +11
        25 September 2022 21: 21
        Quote: Plate
        Judging by the example with Armenia, kamikaze drones go well against an enemy with practically no air defense. If so, then the only effective countermeasure is the restoration of a normal air defense system. But how will they do it?

        The only way
        The West is helping the Kyiv regime to recreate a full-fledged air defense system. It is reported that the US-Norwegian NASAMS air defense systems have already arrived in Ukraine
        1. +12
          25 September 2022 21: 30
          Quote: Piramidon
          The only way

          uh, there is a nuance, different air defense systems are good for different purposes, we will see how the bourgeois will cope, they don’t have shells, we’ll see
          1. +16
            25 September 2022 21: 35
            Judging by the data from Wikipedia, I think these NASAMS air defense systems could well deal with small UAVs. I do not presume to judge how successful, but they could. But the point is not even in the air defense system, but in the air defense system.
            Today, according to the materials, Ukrainian air defense turns on when the target has already been detected, and immediately turns off again after firing. This allows you to avoid hitting yourself. But a small UAV is pretty hard to spot. And if you turn on the radar for constant duty, then only together with means of protection against cruise and ballistic missiles, otherwise they will quickly do ata-ta-ta.
            1. +8
              25 September 2022 23: 46
              In general, such UAVs are quite effective for hunting not only self-propelled guns, MLRS, fuel dispensers, armored vehicles and high-priority stationary targets, but also for detecting and destroying military and object air defense systems. The same "Bayraktars" and Israeli "kamikazes" worked quite effectively against the Armenian air defense.
              If, for example, an RTR aircraft took direction and determined the approximate coordinates of the air defense system based on the operation of its radar even with a short turn on, then it is more reasonable to send just such or a similar UAV for additional reconnaissance and defeat of the air defense system.
            2. +2
              25 September 2022 23: 48
              Your heels will still burn, no matter how much you dance!
            3. +7
              26 September 2022 02: 20
              Using NASAMS to shoot down cheap drones like the Shahed-136 may be viable for the US with its unlimited assets, but Ukraine only has a limited number of missiles. They may have to save them for more worthy purposes. And if they use NASAMS, their supplies may be depleted.
              1. +3
                26 September 2022 05: 14
                to shoot down cheap drones like the Shahed-136

                For air defense, it is not the cost of the target that matters, but the cost of the protected objects

                2. Shaheed-136 is cheap, but does not mean that they are used in thousands of pieces. This is not a quadcopter, this thing is about the size of your car. Like calibers - several launches per day are launched

                3. The Shahid UAV is not very resistant to air defense, so the use of NASAMS may not be required. Shoot down by any means
            4. +1
              26 September 2022 17: 27
              The cost of installing Nasams is 64 million. dollars, and the launch of one rocket is 1 million dollars. Jewish warriors save a lot of their iron-dome anti-missiles ($60 from a $50 million installation) against Shaitan Kassamov missiles (the red price is $500). The nasams installation itself needs support and maintenance, which means it will cost much more (or it will be one-time). Not everything is so simple - war is an economic calculation, efficiency.
            5. 0
              26 September 2022 18: 15
              .. "Ukrainian air defense turns on when the target has already been detected, and after firing it immediately turns off again." And who will detect the target if the station is turned off? In order for her to shoot, the station must first be turned on in order to detect the target! And the X-31P anti-radar missile is best suited for destroying Nazi air defenses. https://topwar.ru/193642-protivoradiolokacionnye-rakety-linejki-h-31p.html, Not a low-speed drone.
              .
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      2. +8
        25 September 2022 21: 36
        I would put the question differently. At the beginning of the SVO, planes were constantly buzzing over my head at night, and then they stopped - the risk of being shot down. Put out air defense, but it is in Ukraine.
        1. -3
          25 September 2022 23: 39
          It will not be possible to extinguish the air defense, since American space reconnaissance and AWACS systems are used as early warning.
          1. +1
            26 September 2022 07: 59
            Yeah, it turns out to extinguish the port of Odessa, but there is no air defense. The logic is kind of weird.
            1. BEV
              +1
              29 September 2022 00: 44
              The port is a stationary object, air defense is mobile. Entered the coordinates and hello. But there is nothing to reconnoiter air defense.
              1. 0
                29 September 2022 04: 34
                You mean nothing? Can you tell me where our air defense is, for example, on Tarkhankut? I saw it corny and completely out of service.
      3. -4
        25 September 2022 21: 38
        Quote: Plate
        Judging by the example with Armenia, kamikaze drones go well against an enemy with practically no air defense. If so, then the only effective countermeasure is the restoration of a normal air defense system. But how will they do it?


        Kamikaze drones seem to be good in any circumstances if you learn how to use them.
        Cheap for the price, great for the performance. Air defense is generally not the lot because they are too small and slow, and the price of an air defense missile is comparable to the price of such drones.
        But I think that our generals are able to screw up the use of the most excellent weapons
        1. +5
          25 September 2022 23: 03
          Quote from: newtc7
          the price of an air defense missile is comparable to the price of such drones.

          Now include here the price of salvaged military equipment.
          1. -1
            26 September 2022 12: 41
            Quote: Plate
            Quote from: newtc7
            the price of an air defense missile is comparable to the price of such drones.

            Now include here the price of salvaged military equipment.


            And now include here the price of destroyed military property, those are the same as those saved. Plus the life of those who use it. So it turns out that kamikaze is mega effective
      4. +7
        25 September 2022 23: 06
        Quote: Plate
        Judging by the example with Armenia, kamikaze drones go well against an enemy with practically no air defense

        Judging by Odessa, in the presence of air defense, drones in mass use are also effective, unlike manned aircraft.
      5. +5
        26 September 2022 02: 10
        I'm afraid they will. With our COMPLETE connivance with the supply of weapons, including fairly large ones. Although how much we scared our Western partners not to do this. We express our concerns about this, it remains to propose negotiations
      6. -1
        26 September 2022 12: 56
        the Europeans seem to have mobile systems sharpened for drones, they will start to annoy and send a couple of dozen.
      7. -2
        27 September 2022 20: 03
        And with the air defense present, how to deal with geraniums?
        1. +1
          27 September 2022 20: 25
          Judging by its successful application, no way.
    2. +23
      25 September 2022 21: 12
      Knock out, geranium-2, dill air defense in the first place. The full-fledged work of the Aerospace Forces will accelerate the advancement of the RF Armed Forces at times.
      1. -3
        25 September 2022 21: 48
        Quote: Leshak
        Knock out, geranium-2, dill air defense in the first place.

        Not suitable for air defense. Rather, artillerymen with self-propelled guns and towed guns as the most valuable personnel.



        1. +3
          25 September 2022 21: 55
          Quote: Hoarfrost
          Not suitable for air defense.

          why? Air defense knock out only harms? )
    3. +2
      25 September 2022 23: 39
      The word "fronts" is already dumbfounded !!!
    4. 0
      26 September 2022 12: 38
      Quote: Hoarfrost
      "Geranium-2" went well. While the Kyiv partners have not found effective opposition to it, it is necessary to apply it massively.

      Odessa should be scratched with Nikolaev, with Tarkhankut - a very convenient position there. Thin out more...
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    1. +18
      25 September 2022 21: 11
      Throw off the link to the comments. I read it, I didn’t see what they handed over
      1. +26
        25 September 2022 21: 20
        You see, Vasya Pupkin flew in here to drop a fake on a parachute. Don't worry, he's at work. :) And Lyman is holding on!!!
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          1. +4
            25 September 2022 22: 52
            Quote: Elf
            You are fighting in the wrong direction, read the comments in the daily news about the estuary, there is one whining about (The estuary is surrounded)

            He didn’t give proof, which means that the invented “daytime comments” that are not there, you yourself will read. At the request of "Liman" on YouTube, YouTube didn't show anything close to the fact that you had just blundered, and even the noble liar Oleg Zhdanov 5 hours ago only dreamed about what kind of buns would fall after the "capture of the Liman", and he was his own (it happens that sometimes he doesn’t lie) he would never miss it.
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          2. +3
            26 September 2022 01: 47
            Where is the whining? This is what the military correspondents write
            Older than Edda
            Right now, the 144th Motor Rifle Division is going into immortality. What the 488 SMEs, 254 SMEs, 59 TPs, 99 SAPs have done and are doing will be written in fiery letters on the pages of the glorious military history of Russia. Sometime after the victory, remember the glorious Smolensk and Bryansk guys, they deserve it.

            I am proud of my friendship with them, I am proud that I shared and will share dry rations and a glass with these guys. I am proud that under fire we joked and will joke.

            Xoxol rushing in hordes on the Oskol front, despite the losses. His equipment is on fire, corpses are strewn with settlements and forest plantations. The "thin red line" of the Russian guards holds back his advance, fertilizing the already fertile black soil of Slobozhanshchina with soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

            Soon, very soon, the newly formed units and subunits will approach, the enemy will be defeated, humiliated and destroyed. In the meantime, it is they, who have been waging continuous battles for the past 7 months against a superior enemy, who are keeping Russia.
    2. +26
      25 September 2022 21: 15
      Elf, don't panic. We won’t hand over Liman, straighten the pillows on the sofa and take an interest further!
    3. +22
      25 September 2022 21: 15
      Quote: Elf
      According to the comments in the morning, Liman has already been given to the ukram. I wonder what they will write right now.

      They will write that you are not professionally working out your hryvnia. We must try, otherwise they will be sent to the grave.
      1. Elf
        -40
        25 September 2022 21: 23
        What hryvnias do I need? Read the comments to the news at 2 pm about the estuary, they need to pour it.
        1. +6
          25 September 2022 21: 33
          Quote: Elf
          What hryvnias do I need? Read the comments to the news at 2 pm about the estuary, they need to pour it.

          ))))))))))))) came under distribution, it happens
        2. +5
          26 September 2022 01: 02
          Here's about Liman, where the destroyed Ukrainian equipment is shown only on the outskirts.
        3. +1
          26 September 2022 12: 29
          Quote: Elf
          What hryvnias do I need? Read the comments to the news at 2 pm about the estuary, they need to pour it.

          What do you take with only hard currency? am
  3. +9
    25 September 2022 21: 10
    What did they do there in Dagestan, that people took to the streets?
    1. +9
      25 September 2022 21: 26
      Quote: dmi.pris
      What did they do there in Dagestan, that people took to the streets?

      in YouTube I came across the name of the video, something like "Dagestan women do not let men in." Looks like a medusa.
      This is how the rash actions of especially zealous servicemen who want to curry favor with their superiors feed the Russophobic media.
      1. +2
        25 September 2022 23: 10
        Quote: Flood
        in YouTube I came across the name of the video, something like "Dagestan women do not let men in."

        I saw a video on the contrary, where a Dagestan woman persuaded the peasants to go to war, but they refused.
        1. +2
          26 September 2022 08: 10
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          I saw a video on the contrary, where a Dagestan woman persuaded the men to go to war, but they refused

          I didn't see that video, only the title.
          But neither jellyfish nor freedom will show how mobilized Russians go to do their duty without prodding.
          1. -1
            26 September 2022 08: 32
            Quote: Flood
            But neither jellyfish nor freedom will show how mobilized Russians go to do their duty without prodding.

            Just as neither MO nor the first channel will show such a situation:
            They began to give people weapons and take them allegedly “for exercises”. So two companies of the first battalion and one company of the second left. The battalion commanders have no idea where the people have gone.

            The personnel of the second company of Gordeichik's battalion were indignant at what was happening, there were many complaints and people began to threaten to appeal to the prosecutor's office if they were not told who was going where. An officer came out of the regiment and explained that if something does not suit someone, they can take him without documents to the Russian-Ukrainian border near Kantemirovka and leave him there. Separately emphasizing that such cases have already been.
            1. 0
              26 September 2022 08: 43
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Just as neither MO nor the first channel will show such a situation

              That's why I don't watch either.
    2. +1
      25 September 2022 21: 38
      Who are they? There could be interesting people in the villages, who preach in their own way and enjoy authority in their fiefs. I heard that in the cities everything is in order. 5-column is not only liberda.
      1. +1
        26 September 2022 02: 36
        I think that our "friend" Erdogan and his special services do not sleep, but plow day and night. Well, or those whom he cannot call his own, but they are also from Turkey
    3. +5
      25 September 2022 23: 09
      Quote: dmi.pris
      What did they do there in Dagestan, that people took to the streets?

      In the village of Enderei, 110 people were called up at a time, which seems to be a lot for one village.
      1. +1
        25 September 2022 23: 37
        There are villages with 10 thousand people, for such villages this is not much
    4. +1
      26 September 2022 12: 42
      Quote: dmi.pris
      What did they do there in Dagestan, that people took to the streets?

      In my opinion, the military commissar did not conduct explanatory work with the population. Isn't it time to assemble a combined battalion from the military registration and enlistment offices for advanced training directly on the line of fire?!
  4. -16
    25 September 2022 21: 11


    Let's break through. Right now, the mobilization will take place, and we will not be broken.
  5. -29
    25 September 2022 21: 19
    konashchenkovshchina:
    "... A number of losses of the RF Armed Forces in aviation were recorded, while there were no casualties among the pilots."
    plays into the hands of Ukrainian propaganda and harms the Russian Federation:
    https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2022/09/25/7369020/
    "On September 25, at about 17.00:25, units of the anti-aircraft missile Odessa air command brigade "South" shot down an enemy Su-XNUMX attack aircraft, which attacked our troops in the Kherson region.

    To rescue the Russian pilot, the invaders sent a Mi-8 helicopter with a team on board, which was also successfully destroyed by anti-aircraft gunners of the Odessa brigade.
    1. +12
      25 September 2022 21: 47
      - Young woman! You have a newspaper stuck to your ass!
      - Правда?
      - No, Kommunar.

      "We took one crew right away, but the second crew was unlucky, the PSO helicopter came under heavy enemy fire, the GOP entered the battle, but they couldn't pick up ours. The crew had to take a little walk. They were also taken. Everyone is alive. Everything is fine."
  6. +5
    25 September 2022 21: 33
    Quote: Plate
    Judging by the example with Armenia, kamikaze drones go well against an enemy with practically no air defense.

    Sure sure. It is the "lack" of air defense that makes our aircraft fly at low level
  7. -5
    25 September 2022 21: 33
    Good war report, keep it up, supplies from abroad are bad. am
  8. -4
    25 September 2022 21: 47
    Kr. Liman - the new Stalingrad! Glory to the heroes!
    1. 0
      25 September 2022 22: 16
      Do not compare the APU with the Wehrmacht. It's like a skirting board with a ceiling
      1. -1
        25 September 2022 23: 12
        Quote: chingachguc
        Do not compare the APU with the Wehrmacht. It's like a skirting board with a ceiling

        If Putin had not delivered a preemptive strike, the Ukrainian Nazis would have been more successful than the German ones. In my opinion, the leadership of Ukraine is more optimistic after half a year of the war than the leadership of the Wehrmacht in December 1941.
        1. +1
          25 September 2022 23: 58
          And in what way would the success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine be measured? In the amount of 200x in the foreground, in a narrow sector of the offensive? And where did Putin deliver a preemptive strike? By the accumulation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions prepared for the attack? It wasn't. There was a jump to Kyiv, the godfather promised a putsch and Zelya in an iron cage.
          1. -2
            26 September 2022 01: 55
            Quote: Essex62
            And where did Putin deliver a preemptive strike?

            The water blockade of Crimea was broken, Melitopol was liberated and the shortest railway port for the export of Ukrainian steel was closed. This looks good against the background of the surrender of Kyiv, Smolensk, Novgorod, Pskov, Crimea and the same Melitopol in the first six months of the war with Bandera's allies in 1941. Stalin intended at the beginning of the war to strike at Sweden by cutting off Germany from iron ore. But the Finns, with heroic resistance in 1939-1940, did not allow Stalin to prevent the Holocaust of Slavs, Gypsies and Jews.
            1. +1
              26 September 2022 02: 31
              Well, you are a strategist. I applaud. And Putin is a great strategist, Stalin was not even close. A blow to Sweden, this is serious. Did he tell you himself, from the other world? Plans and maps of the General Staff of the RKKK, as evidence, I ask you not to cite. Staff officers, except with the Martians, have not developed a war
              And nothing, that the whole world, including the "allies", considers us an aggressor. But whether the tasks are feasible, time will tell.
              1. +1
                26 September 2022 02: 51
                From a rational point of view, the tasks, I'm afraid, are impossible. But we must try, because there is no way back. If we lose, modern Russia will not be.
              2. +3
                26 September 2022 03: 54
                Quote: Essex62
                And Putin is a great strategist, Stalin was not even close.
                Read I.E. Sinitsyn "Andropov is near ...." If Putin had not saved the Crimeans and residents of Donbass from the Ukrainian yoke and genocide, both his enemies and former allies would have considered him a fool. Who would agree to an alliance with a politician and people who left their compatriots to be torn to pieces by Ukrainian punishers? There is nothing shameful in the fact that Russians are considered bad aggressors by those who dream of enslaving us.
                1. +3
                  26 September 2022 09: 51
                  And what about Lieberman to read? The enemy is the enemy.
                  I have nothing against the protection of Russian people and Russian territories. But "aggression" must be prepared, and the chief must personally make sure that this is so, and not fall for the nonsense of dubious personalities, such as Medvedchuk. That on the outskirts they are just waiting for our landing.
                  And most importantly, the goals of the bourgeoisie do not coincide with the goals of the People, never.
                  In the West, they can dream as much as they like and about anything, but their goals are definitely not feasible. If they press it, the whole world will be in dust.
                  1. -1
                    26 September 2022 10: 13
                    Quote: Essex62
                    And what about Lieberman to read? The enemy is the enemy.

                    Why did you consider Andropov an enemy? He, unlike Putin, did not dare to fight against smoking and drunkenness, and unlike Kosygin and Gorbachev, he did not show his mediocrity in the fight against alcoholism. Not a very smart person as a politician, but certainly not an enemy, even if you consider him a Jew.
                    1. +1
                      26 September 2022 10: 30
                      And who dragged the tagged one to the Politburo? And the pro-Western institutions "studying some problems there", under whom were they created? From there, then the "young reformers" and other ideologists of the "market" budded out. And the Office, which stopped the fight against manifestations of the bourgeoisie. Not cleaning up the snickering zavbazami, scoring on general theft and, most importantly, growing separatism. That is why they all sat quietly in the building on the Lubyanka and watched as the gopota brought down the symbol of the dictatorship of the proletariat - Iron Felix. She ceased to be the Cheka and became the guardian of the power of the party nomenklatura.
                      The change in the social structure of the country was conceived and executed precisely by Andropov-Lieberman.
                      1. 0
                        27 September 2022 03: 40
                        Quote: Essex62
                        The change in the social structure of the country was conceived and executed precisely by Andropov-Lieberman.

                        When I studied in Stankino, at the lesson of scientific communism, the teacher directly explained to us that there was no fundamental difference between Chernenko, Andropov and Gorbachev. The leadership of the Polyutburo of the CPSU made a fundamental decision that the existing model of the state is not viable and needs to be modernized. All leaders of the CPSU groped their way to find a way out of the crisis, to find a model and a lever for the reorganization of the country. Chernenko saw ideological propaganda as such a lever, Andropov saw tougher discipline and total control. Gorbachev also began with discipline and ideological chatter, but rather quickly began boldly experimenting with a known result. But against the background of other leaders of the CPSU, Andropov is apparently the most ideological communist. No politician can go against the people without losing power and respect.
                      2. 0
                        27 September 2022 09: 39
                        "Scientific communism" and other bullshit ruined the country. The main support was knocked out by ghouls with a huckster essence, no longer hiding openly and arrogantly, and these argued how they could equip a decaying society. Instead of raising the working class to an irreconcilable war against money-grubbing and bourgeoisism. For some reason, they considered that the class struggle had outlived its usefulness? They simply wanted to convert power into material wealth, and having betrayed the achievements of VOSR, they sang with world capital. Outright betrayal. Against the People, you say? But the people are not homogeneous, they are divided into classes, even if you called them "the great community of the Soviet People." It was necessary not to catch people in cinemas, but to clean harshly and mercilessly those who bathed in luxury for a salary of 100 rubles, stole and corrupted those around them. Central Asia and Transcaucasia, they directly asked for the "skating rink" of the proletariat, and so on.
                        And yet the Secretary General is not a politician, in the sense that we invest today. A real communist should not be afraid of losing "power".
                      3. +1
                        27 September 2022 12: 40
                        Quote: Essex62
                        "Scientific communism" and other bullshit ruined the country.

                        The man who taught us scientific communism was extraordinary. He really taught us real philosophy, gave us a broad view of the different points of the discussed problem of the seminar. Roughly speaking, 90% of the time, he directed the discussion towards the search for anti-Soviet arguments on the subject of communism, and the last 10% beautifully proved that all this anti-Sovietism is struggling with several logical conclusions. The ability to philosophize, to know the history of the country's main political force, to understand the basics of the economy is very important for a person. Of course, in the USSR, these subjects were emasculated and instead of a thoughtful discussion of the subject, everything came down to writing a summary and reciting it.
                      4. 0
                        27 September 2022 22: 02
                        Maybe he was a wonderful person, this is a teacher and possibly a serious philosopher and theorist of M-L and NK, but when a house is on fire, you need to put out the fire, and not rant on the topic of buckets, gaffs and pumps. A stern uncle, in a leather jacket and with a Mauser or, closer to the time, Stechkin, at the head of the work detachments, had to rectify the situation. Strangle the counter that raised its head. Moreover, long before they created the prerequisites for a buzz and restoration. But the uncles from the Lubyanka did not even think about it. Your Marxist was mistaken, Lieberman ceased to be a communist, and maybe he never was.
                      5. 0
                        27 September 2022 23: 58
                        Quote: Essex62
                        . But the uncles from the Lubyanka did not even think about it. Your Marxist was mistaken, Lieberman ceased to be a communist, and maybe he never was.

                        Uncles from Lubyanka repressed 90% of all outstanding aircraft designers. I consider it a great merit of Andropov that he did not give free rein to the Chekists to carry out a quick reprisal, allowing minor dirty tricks to console them. For example, the KGB tried to accuse the only Soviet writer whose books were readable, published in different countries of the world and sympathetically represented communist ideas of espionage for aliens and conducted a post-mortem search in his apartment. Even the intercession of his friend Demichev, a member of the Politburo, did not save Efremov from the persecution of a petty security official. In Ukraine and Moldova, it was the KGB apparatus and special departments that ensured the rapid transition of the army under the jurisdiction of the new Ukrainian and Moldovan authorities and fought against attempts to create a political movement for the preservation of the country. The teacher was not a supporter of communism, but he led his agitation on the verge of a foul without crossing it. It was hard to pick on him. He dreamed of leaving Stankino, he did not hold on to a place, apparently he drove the orthodox from the leadership of the department to white heat. He could be forgiven for his hidden anti-communism, but no one made an attempt to teach students to think boldly and discuss slippery topics.
                      6. 0
                        28 September 2022 00: 26
                        That's it, that's not what they were doing. From a certain moment. And it was necessary to carry out a quick reprisal against bourgeois geeks, and they just didn’t do this, it was Lieberman who didn’t allow it.
                        And, by the way, for almost every "repressed" designer, the case was not exaggerated, and maybe everyone .. There were sins with state money.
                        With Efremov, in general, the matter is dark. But these are things of the past. They did not influence the change of the system, and they could not.
                        In short, it was necessary, this is already in relation to the period preceding the coup, to clean out the counter, and only then feel sorry for you intellectuals.
                      7. -1
                        28 September 2022 01: 11
                        Quote: gsev
                        For example, the KGB tried to accuse the only Soviet writer whose books were readable, published in different countries of the world and sympathetically represented communist ideas of espionage for aliens and conducted a post-mortem search in his apartment.

                        Have you not read Ravil Bikbaev by chance: "Over the abyss along the edge of the sword"? Just about the spy Efremov. Very interesting.
                      8. +1
                        28 September 2022 21: 52
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Ravilya Bikbaeva: "Over the abyss along the edge of the sword"?

                        Instead of working on debugging, I read it. There is a photo of Efremov in childhood and adolescence. It seems not difficult to determine the conformity of a person by the auricle. In my opinion, the substitution of Efremov for an Englishman in childhood should be dismissed. Over the past 15 years, on my life path, poisoning and murder specialists have encountered more often than professional electromechanics, although my profession is an electromechanic. Either they tell me about radioactive platinoids, or about the salaries of novice developers, or they remember how they prepared an assassination attempt on an Afghan parliamentarian, or how the secretariat of President Dudayev interacted with Novaya Gazeta .. In addition, the problem is the inadequacy of the assessment of useful and harmful for Russia. I cited Efremov as a symbol of the outstanding stupidity of the actions of the KGB officers. Intelligence loves silence, like any business, and they, having not achieved intelligible results, dropped into society both the accusation of espionage of Efremov and the accusation of their stupidity. Once I went to the cinema with a former classmate who joined the KGB on the basis of Voinovich's book Shapka. The comrade only at the end of the film came to the conclusion that this is not a comedy that puts out only writers in a stupid way, but something unsightly in the public life of the USSR. And such people are able to determine who is the enemy, who is a toady, and who is just? By the way, it is difficult for all intelligence agencies to work in the Afghan society, where information about all the unusual actions in their environment is spread in the diaspora to another continent in a matter of days. They do not make accusations, but simply discuss what other people have done. I will assume that this book was written with the aim of discrediting the writer of pro-communist views. Putin, early in his presidency, had a strong obsession with a strict ban on communism in Russia, along the lines of what is now being done in Ukraine.
                      9. +1
                        28 September 2022 00: 19
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Your Marxist was mistaken, Lieberman ceased to be a communist, and maybe he never was.

                        So the main Soviet philosopher Mitin degenerated into a bureaucrat who made a career on plagiarism of Western works and unpublished works of Soviet philosophers. Although it seems that this man fought in civilian life and served in the Special Department of the Bogunsky Regiment of the 44th Shchors Rifle Division. But in reality, this former Chekist and participant in all the persecution of even geneticists, even philosophers, decrieded communism and ruined Soviet power.
                      10. 0
                        28 September 2022 00: 46
                        It is impossible to discredit communism. And the Soviet government ceased to be such as soon as it lost its reliance on the hegemon, replaced by the amorphous "Soviet People" community. Without classes, with their actual revival and, accordingly, without class struggle. The herentocrats calmed down and overslept the counter-revolution.
                      11. -1
                        28 September 2022 00: 53
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Communism cannot be discredited.

                        It is enough to compare the DPRK and South Korea, the GDR and the FRG, Singapore with Taiwan and the PRC. Even Stalin's children could not survive in the state he created, and his daughter, from the state pension provided to her by Andropov, left for happiness in the United States to end her life in the almshouse there. Now they do not believe in beautiful theories, they compare the created models of society, parties, associations.
                      12. +1
                        28 September 2022 10: 08
                        And what, communism has already been built and functioned somewhere? And theories, here too, have nothing to do with it. What we managed to achieve in practice in the USSR has no analogues in the history of the planet. This, of course, is not communism, it is only a small step towards communism. Only here it is not realistic to cancel the instinct of the individual to grasping movements. It is necessary to constantly beat him on the hands and on the head, and it is impossible to keep society constantly in tension. There is no answer yet on how to bypass the plug.
                        And, by the way, in the GDR, socialism was very satisfying, for a simple hard worker. Citizens with a huckster streak were climbing through the wall. Itching with them, they could not do without speculation. Well, any "creative" shelupon.
  9. +6
    25 September 2022 21: 59
    in Melitopol, while preparing a terrorist attack, a Ukrainian militant died due to careless handling of explosives

    Now, after the Nazi leaders have been released, all the Nazis will inadvertently die.
  10. +6
    25 September 2022 22: 14
    So Liman is confidently holding
    This makes me happy. Actually, it was not the Ukrainians who won near Balakleya, but we blew it. In all directions it was - regular units were replaced by mobs and volunteers. The Kadyrovites were taken out after the capture of Lisichansk. In August, even compared to May, the number on the front line fell by a quarter. They themselves lost the initiative. And the Ukrainians picked
  11. -3
    25 September 2022 22: 28
    Quote: Hoarfrost
    Quote: Leshak
    Knock out, geranium-2, dill air defense in the first place.

    Not suitable for air defense. Rather, artillerymen with self-propelled guns and towed guns as the most valuable personnel.




    They say that Hermann Goering was the prototype of Carlson: after the beer coup, the combat pilot fled in Denmark, and then in Sweden. There he earned his bread by demonstrative aerial performances.
    Astrid Lindgren sympathized with the National Socialist Party, voted for it more than once, and was even personally acquainted with Goering, the future second man of the Nazi Third Reich. Göring in adulthood is very similar to Astrid Lindgren's character. The same big belly and short stature as Carlson, common phrases: “Calm, only calm!” and his favorite “Nonsense! It's a matter of life."
    1. 0
      25 September 2022 23: 17
      Quote: hhurik
      Astrid Lindgren sympathized with the National Socialist Party, voted for it more than once, and even knew Goering personally,

      The Swedish state model of that time and Astred's lifestyle in the Swedish world (a single mother forced to hide the presence of a child born out of wedlock) made her a children's writer-gimmanist. In a normal society, Nazis are herbivorous, not dangerous, and even as cute as Astred. In the USSR, her books made Russians more merciful. Perhaps her works are an alternative to raising little sadistic thugs in the Azov sports camps funded secretly by Galkin and openly by Kolomoisky.
  12. -1
    25 September 2022 23: 02
    What prevents the RF Ministry of Defense from transferring 100000 from other regions? Toadying and sycophancy unequivocally.
  13. +3
    25 September 2022 23: 37
    As I understand it, a swarm of such drones is capable of unwinding any air defense system. I hope this will happen and it will be easier for our "birds" to work both on the transmission line and behind enemy lines.
  14. -1
    25 September 2022 23: 44
    Quote: bandabas
    What prevents the RF Ministry of Defense from transferring 100000 from other regions? Toadying and sycophancy unequivocally.

    It's a matter of questions. Okay, we overslept Balakleya, but there are already two Ukrainians on Liman !!!!! Weeks rushing regardless of losses. During this time, it was possible to pull up reserves from the Far East and double or triple our grouping there. Instead, we are again trying to ride on the heroism of a soldier.
    1. 0
      26 September 2022 00: 09
      As one forum member rightly noted: where were all the volunteers from TV before?
    2. -1
      26 September 2022 04: 49
      Betrayal and selfish interests.
    3. +1
      26 September 2022 05: 35
      Moreover, everything could be done quietly, peacefully, and painlessly. It's no secret that for military operations and other operations in the state there is an Army. Professional, permanent. Where specially trained people receive allowances and maintenance in order to immediately apply their skills if necessary. This, I think, is no secret to anyone. In peacetime, the Army of contract soldiers prepares for itself a replenishment in the form of military training for conscripts. You can’t take conscripts in the NWO, this is reasonable. It is also impossible to completely remove the military unit from the place of permanent deployment and throw it on the front line, you never know.
      Mobilization of the reserve is a so-so measure, as everyone has noticed. The former conscript 10-20 years later already gained weight, got a family, an important job and chronic diseases. I'm not talking about the "paper" officers from the military commissar at the university - immediately to the reserve.
      Isn't it easier to "dilute" those very combat units with these mobilized ones? Regular active military and contract soldiers are doing their duty in the database zone, for which they are 100% ready, and in units, mobilized storekeepers come to take their place. They are definitely capable of educating conscripts.
      And everyone is happy, everything is in place. Well, it's logical!
  15. +1
    26 September 2022 00: 35
    Mdyaya. On ukrosites they write that the estuary will soon have an amba. I really hope they break their teeth!
    1. 0
      26 September 2022 02: 50
      Duck there and something else they will write, they and Russia are about to have an amba, because "the whole world" and, most importantly, America!
  16. 0
    26 September 2022 03: 44
    A very long and distant path for reinforcements, if two regiments write and the volunteers stand to the death.
  17. -1
    26 September 2022 04: 47
    I'm interested: intelligence. Is a satellite considered a legitimate target for the Russian Aerospace Forces if it is used for reconnaissance and guidance of missile systems and artillery at the positions of our group? It doesn't matter whose - mattress, small bryukansky or some other. If it is revealing to destroy heels of these, and we have the full right to do this, since they are used in the war against our Armed Forces, how quickly will our enemies curtail their assistance to the panheads? It is clear that they will "stink" and spit, it should be absolutely "violet" for us. And in general, in order for everything to be "according to concepts", as our zeroed one likes, you can demand to take them out of orbit, say, within 3 days, after which we use our right to ensure the country's security by any means - up to the destruction of space objects with nuclear weapons on full alert. How it's done: "we became aware of the command to launch a nuclear strike from satellites. And we launched a preventive one and a half minutes before the missiles were launched." Let them later prove that there was no such thing on the satellites.
  18. 0
    27 September 2022 07: 32
    What is interesting, when they "regrouped" from under Balakleya with great speed, they also wrote about a large number of reinforcements. Remember how they decorated the 3rd, in my opinion, volunteer battalion. And where is he? What am I for? If the style of command does not change, and the prerequisites are not visible, then the second, or even the third wave of mobilization, will not be long to wait. Well, and a sharp change in mood in the country, when they start taking the boys home with funerals.
  19. 0
    30 September 2022 07: 17
    Vyacheslav Vladimirovich Gladkov Governor of Belgorod areas I express my respect to him about such they say the crisis manager with a capital letter

    Against this background, stands out
    Under Head of the Republic of Dagestan Sergei Melikov

    in a number of regions led to discontent of the population; a certain resonance was caused by the mobilization campaign in Dagestan - some residents took to the streets with protests, who were not explained the provisions of partial mobilization. .

    There is a failure of the authorities of Dagestan It has long been no secret that the entire leadership of Dagestan consists of Siloviki pensioners in order to save face, they ask teachers and civil servants to go to rallies in support of mobilization.
    The timely intervention of the authorities made it possible to eliminate the existing shortcomings
    The intervention was not timely The security forces, pensioners in the power of Dagestan, in their characteristic manner, were at first deaf, tried to decide, as always, then, when everything got out of control, they began to get out
    There is a lack of competence of the leadership of Dagestan and its Head
    .

    The head of Dagestan and his subordinate pensioners, the security forces, as ostriches preferred to hide their heads in the sand
    You need to talk with the people, you don’t need to be afraid, being in captivity of your stereotypes, that everyone around him is enemies


    I will cite as an example the leadership of the Belgorod region, which immediately, non-stop, personally explains to the people without leaving room for maneuver for the Ukrainian CIPSO

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