“The hardest battle in Ukraine”: the NYT assessed the scale of the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kherson

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“The hardest battle in Ukraine”: the NYT assessed the scale of the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kherson

At the moment, the Kherson direction remains one of the main areas for the offensive operation for the Kyiv regime. Despite the constant bloody attacks, the Armed Forces of Ukraine failed to achieve a decisive breakthrough here in three months.

This is the most difficult battle in Ukraine. Bloody exhausting military operations are being conducted here, accompanied by a large number of losses.

- noted in The New York Times, assessing the scale of the battle.



According to the author, for a long time the Kyiv regime declared its intention to defeat the Russian group on the right bank of the Dnieper and capture Kherson. In this regard, large reinforcements were transferred here, largely exposing the Kharkov direction. As a result, the defense of the RF Armed Forces in the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog section of the theater of operations was seriously strengthened.

As noted in the NYT, the Russians erected powerful defenses along the entire front line - trenches that zigzag around irrigation canals; fortified firing positions - bunkers, pillboxes; anti-tank trenches dug by bulldozers and covered with concrete slabs [probably scarps].

But the main losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not in close combat - "few shot from a machine gun, death comes from afar in the form of artillery shells"; This is confirmed by front-line doctors. At the same time, fire support for the advancing battle formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is minimal.



American journalists interviewed dozens of commanders of Ukrainian units and ordinary soldiers, who unanimously stated about the huge problems in the Kherson direction:

Attacks pay off

We have no ammunition, we are suffering heavy losses. We ask the United States for help with shells.

During a major offensive, a column of Ukrainian tanks and armored vehicles crossing the open field, was undermined by mines and mercilessly fired upon by artillery.

During the recent assault on one of the villages, we lost hundreds of fighters, but the village continues to remain with the Russian troops. Losses among the personnel took on a massive character.

In response to these statements, the Ministry of Defense is defending the chosen offensive strategy. The press secretary of the military department voiced the position of the command:

The superiority of the enemy in artillery does not decide the outcome of the battle. Stories there are cases of unique battles in which the decisive factor was not the number weapons, and the quality of the battle.

As a result, the offensive operation continues. To date, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have occupied small territories in the north of the Kherson region, where they are suffering heavy losses. But, as indicated in the publication, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no choice - if they do not achieve success in the near future, then after the start of the October rains, which turn the roads into mud, this will not be possible at all. Therefore, the attacks of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are constantly renewed in order to eventually capture Kherson and, as noted, "demonstrate the usefulness of the weapons transferred by the West."

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    1. +24
      25 September 2022 20: 19
      “The hardest battle in Ukraine”: the NYT assessed the scale of the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kherson
      What should I do. Pay bloody tribute to the amers, request
      1. +24
        25 September 2022 20: 21
        The rats cried, but ate the cactus .....
        1. +36
          25 September 2022 20: 44
          I would like to believe that those who send the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to be slaughtered, like sheep, will be judged by the Ukrainians themselves. I want to but can't request
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            1. +15
              25 September 2022 21: 19
              Zelensky only changes the Nazis, and not only we are already surprised by this fact:
              1. +2
                25 September 2022 23: 10
                This does not negate the need to castrate those who gave away a hundred Azov people, whom the first people of the country promised to judge.
                Interestingly, Bastrykin will wipe his stained lips and remain silent?
                1. 0
                  25 September 2022 23: 23
                  Quote: Pereira
                  This does not negate the need to castrate those who gave away a hundred Azov people, whom the first people of the country promised to judge.

                  For some reason, you are less interested in the need for publicity of this story, the main thing is to crow?
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              2. +9
                26 September 2022 05: 16
                BUT!!!, there is a nuance,

                Have you read the exchange list?
                For example, a "blogger" who tortured and killed our captured tanker on camera?
                1. -1
                  26 September 2022 17: 07
                  It is useless to argue with them. Trolls on the payroll will justify any abomination. They don't care about this exchange. They have their own goals and objectives. Even if, for example, they took Kyiv and captured the entire military-political leadership and then gave the capital back and Zelya and the company were released. Keyboard workers would write that this is the only way to do it.
              3. +3
                26 September 2022 10: 22
                It would all be so if not for Medvechuk!
                1. 0
                  5 November 2022 23: 32
                  What can we know? No negotiations are disclosed.
              4. +2
                26 September 2022 13: 57
                I support 100%! The lives of our children are more precious!
        2. +6
          25 September 2022 21: 02
          The comments under the article in the NYT are very interesting. From the top five, this has not happened before.



          1. +3
            25 September 2022 21: 21
            Minusator, it turns out that not everything is in the USA (a word according to Zadornov) when the conversation turns to the use of nuclear weapons and not on the edge.
      2. +11
        25 September 2022 20: 54
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        “The hardest battle in Ukraine”: the NYT assessed the scale of the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kherson
        What should I do. Pay bloody tribute to the amers, request

        Unfortunately, they don't understand this at all. They cannot understand that they are dying not for their Motherland, but for the interests of the mattress-makers, or rather, for a small handful of their magnates.
        This is not a plowed field for our propaganda
      3. +1
        26 September 2022 13: 41
        What should I do. Pay bloody tribute to amers
        the slaves are coming out to pay a bloody tribute ... So far, USEFULNESS only to Russian troops is a LIVING TIR, in which you can beat out the Ukronazis.
    2. +16
      25 September 2022 20: 19
      Chase the Nazis, beat them, beat them. Do not spare shells and bombs on them!
      1. +21
        25 September 2022 20: 28
        Here in Gorlovka every day, every hour - volleys, roar, explosions are heard, something is constantly launched against the Ukrainian occupiers. Around the clock.
        Plus, aviation is constantly flying.
        Ukrainians are tinny. And you calmly go to work ....
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        2. +22
          25 September 2022 20: 40
          Quote: Hoarfrost
          Krasny Lyman surrounded by troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

          Quote: Hoarfrost
          It's fake. The ceremonial Balakley-Izyum guards Kantemirov and Taman divisions could not allow this.

          this is really a fake, only without any sarcasm, the order of the drug commander was not carried out, the Liman was not only not taken, but also not surrounded,))) the dill environment did not work out
          1. +12
            25 September 2022 20: 48
            nightly vigils of ukrobots ... until our Caliber cut off the light for them ... dills drive dozens of armor through the fields, which are shot through with Kalash, not to mention art ... nothing helps them ... "meat" flows in a stream, they hope to thaw ugrohat a bunch of their mobikov, but on their bones to regain at least something for PR. But mudslides are not always a reason to stop combat ... just the worst time to sit in dugouts in knee-deep water. There is only one end for them, but not everyone will even live to see it. The most intelligent and cunning have been warming their bones in the EU for half a year, fools put their bones in the ground for them.
            And in the Kherson direction, the dill is driving and driving into the "gut" - a fire bag, under our artillery, more and more new units of mobs, increasing their losses from scratch according to the same scenario.
            1. +4
              25 September 2022 20: 56
              Quote: Fisherman
              hope to kill a bunch of their mobiks before the thaw

              not everywhere, near Liman, Polish DRGs are destroyed, which in general pleases
              1. +8
                25 September 2022 21: 10
                do they feel sorry for the psheks? They always cut them ... and then the psheks themselves to kill a rod - a multi-colored rainbow flag in their hands!
                1. +7
                  25 September 2022 21: 20
                  Quote: Fisherman
                  do they feel sorry for the psheks?

                  I don’t know them, but everything is more pleasant to me than dill mobikov
                  1. +5
                    25 September 2022 22: 29
                    agree! psheks are ahead of banderlogs in disgust!
          2. -5
            25 September 2022 20: 51
            Well, if it's fake. And then the breakthrough of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kharkov was also a fake at first. And the exchange of Azov for Medvedchuk.
            1. 0
              25 September 2022 22: 27
              Yes, now in general, you will understand where the fake is, and where the truth is.
              1. +3
                25 September 2022 23: 41
                Quote: Fast_mutant
                Yes, now in general, you will understand where the fake is, and where the truth is.

                The truth is always the first casualty of any war. winked
    4. +5
      25 September 2022 20: 24
      This is the most difficult battle in Ukraine. Bloody exhausting military operations are being conducted here, accompanied by a large number of losses.
      The Kyiv regime has been warned about the unfavorable development of events since 2014. Now receive and sign. hi
    5. +4
      25 September 2022 20: 41
      Here, on this forum, we have warned many times about the Ukrainian attack on Kherson. Fortunately, the Russian army was prepared and inflicted heavy losses on them.
      1. +2
        25 September 2022 21: 13
        Are these events related?
        1. -1
          26 September 2022 13: 44
          100%!
          Both the Pentagon and the Russian Defense Ministry do not sleep for days.
          They read what experts wrote on the topvar :)
          Based on this, they build their strategy.
          Truly, brothers, we are here with you to determine the entire policy of the world :))))))
          1. -1
            26 September 2022 21: 45
            Interestingly, they also wrote about Kharkov here, about the upcoming offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and ours began to "regroup" without reading the article. A lot of strange things are going on with When will everything get better, according to the charters and rules?
    6. +2
      25 September 2022 20: 43
      "As noted in the NYT, the Russians erected powerful defenses along the entire front line - trenches zigzagging around irrigation canals; fortified firing positions - bunkers, pillboxes; anti-tank trenches dug by bulldozers and covered with concrete slabs [probably scarps]."
      real rzhach, our dill is just hacked
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        1. +5
          25 September 2022 20: 54
          Quote from invisible_man
          Hacked already, they sit in it. There are not enough forces for the further offensive.

          tell the musicians in Bakhmut
          Quote from invisible_man
          What was the mobilization for?

          back close
          1. -14
            25 September 2022 20: 57
            tell the musicians in Bakhmut

            "Musicians" are barely moving forward, and even then - in the "operational shadow" of the Kharkov grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Which sooner or later may end in the same retreat as in Izyum. However, couch "cheers-patriots" do not dig so deep; for moral satisfaction, peppy reports on the capture of villages from 3 houses are enough for them.
            1. +7
              25 September 2022 21: 01
              Quote from invisible_man
              "Musicians" barely moving forward

              but the dill special forces run fast, which was just sent to Bakhmut to repeat Raisins
              1. -13
                25 September 2022 21: 05
                You try to master the rest of the text, and not just the first words.
                For the second month we have been sitting on the defensive and waiting for reinforcements, and some of them have not even reached it.
                1. +3
                  25 September 2022 21: 08
                  Quote from invisible_man
                  You try to master the rest of the text, and not just the first words.

                  you add it at the time, and not when the answer has already been sent
    7. +5
      25 September 2022 20: 46
      History knows cases of unique battles in which the decisive factor was not the number of weapons, but the quality of the battle

      Throwing "meat" into the attack across the bare steppe is not about the "quality of battle" ...
    8. +3
      25 September 2022 20: 49
      I don't care how many of them will be killed, if they achieve their goals, it will be our defeat! There is no need to cover up the mistakes of our command with heavy losses of the enemy!
    9. +6
      25 September 2022 21: 00
      At the same time, fire support for the advancing battle formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is minimal.

      So do not waste ammunition on schools, markets, kindergartens, hotels, etc. It turns out that the main task of the dill is the destruction of the civilian population, and not how to support its fighters. Like it or not, a terrorist state is a terrorist state. Hence the appropriate tactics.
    10. +6
      25 September 2022 21: 01
      ... a column of Ukrainian tanks and armored vehicles crossing an open field was blown up by mines and mercilessly fired upon by artillery.

      So we pitifully fired at you in February ... but in a good way it didn’t reach you. So now - just ruthlessly.
    11. +3
      25 September 2022 21: 16
      The strategy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kherson is extremely clear and simple. Take by number. Constant frontal attacks and hope that the quantity will turn into quality and our front will collapse. And instead of the burnt equipment, NATO will still bring up. In return, 200 and 300 new ones will be called up, and NATO members will train. And they have such a strategy everywhere, except for the Balakley-Izyum operation, which was planned by the Pentagon. We criticize our generals, and often justifiably. But the Armed Forces of Ukraine also have nowhere to come from for great talents, they have the same problems. Without NATO support, they do not represent anything outstanding.
      1. +8
        25 September 2022 21: 28
        Quote: Chronos
        The strategy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kherson is extremely clear and simple. Take by number. Constant frontal attacks and hope that the quantity will turn into quality and our front will collapse. And instead of the burnt equipment, NATO will still bring up. In return, 200 and 300 new ones will be called up, and NATO members will train. And they have such a strategy everywhere, except for the Balakley-Izyum operation, which was planned by the Pentagon. We criticize our generals, and often justifiably. But the Armed Forces of Ukraine also have nowhere to come from for great talents, they have the same problems. Without NATO support, they do not represent anything outstanding.

        Everything is clear under Balakliya, Strelkov said that there were rare posts that could not hold back a mass attack, they were stupidly crushed by numbers, but at the same time they also suffered not small losses. From our side, there are simply not enough people, so we simply retreated to avoid encirclement and great sacrifices. There is no merit of NATO's "genius" in this, it's just that intelligence determined that these areas were weakened.
        1. +1
          26 September 2022 04: 53
          The question is, what kind of defense was not prepared? Stopped - dig. In the army, we had a pamphlet of some kind of colonel or something, back in the war. Especially for soldiers. Small and minimum pages. It was written for both d and about tov that the word "enough" does not exist in defense. Sleep for 3-4 hours and dig. Work on defense. Even if in an hour to advance.
          And what did our six months do there at all incomprehensibly? And who was in charge there? And what were you hoping for?
      2. +2
        25 September 2022 22: 08
        These are not even attacks, but filling the trenches with meat. They knock out some - the trenches are filled with others. And so on to infinity
    12. +3
      25 September 2022 22: 04
      This is not a battle, but an extermination. They grind some - they drive others.
    13. +2
      25 September 2022 22: 36
      Therefore, the attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are constantly renewed in order to eventually capture Kherson

      That's what a city - does not allow Bandera to sleep peacefully laughing
    14. 0
      25 September 2022 23: 15
      The war is going on between their own. Even 35 years ago it could only be imagined in "white tremens". The impudent Saxons are delighted.
      1. +2
        25 September 2022 23: 54
        Once the Balts, Georgians and other former Soviet "brothers" were their own. Now they are long gone. Whoever pays for the girl sleeps with her. Pays USA, West. For over 30 years.
    15. 0
      25 September 2022 23: 51
      The article has a video. Looked it up, didn't understand. The author or someone will explain what is happening in this video? And the meaning of such videos in general - where can not make out anything?
    16. +1
      26 September 2022 00: 50
      "As a result, the offensive operation continues" - that's actually the whole point of the article.

      No one is even surprised by the information about columns of Ukrainian tanks.
      Now we boast of a fortified defense line and hope for an autumn thaw.
      What stage is this, still effective or already decisive?
    17. -2
      26 September 2022 04: 24
      There is a systematic destruction of the Ukrainian population. Unfortunately, with our hands. Bismarck and Hitler give the United States a standing ovation. After joining the lands, the neighbors will steal the rest.
    18. 0
      26 September 2022 04: 48
      The Germans also wrote following the results (Mellenthin et al.) that if it came to the shooting range - 400 m, then your problems are of the wrong order. You can not allow the enemy to shoot small arms.
      And the Ukrainians, apparently, want to "fight"
    19. +1
      26 September 2022 05: 39
      In the course of a major offensive, a column of Ukrainian tanks and armored vehicles crossing an open field was blown up by mines and mercilessly fired upon by artillery.
      If the other side is not in the know, then before attacking with armored vehicles, you should first check the area. along which the tanks will go, and clear mines with the forces of sapper units.
      . History knows cases of unique battles in which the decisive factor was not the number of weapons, but the quality of the battle.

      This is what our fighters prove over and over again, repulsing the attacks of superior enemy forces.
    20. -1
      26 September 2022 08: 15
      When the remnants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are ground on the right bank near Kherson, Ukraine will fall apart. Those mobilized to control the liberated territories will come in handy. But 300 thousand is certainly not enough, the territory is large. We need new waves of mobilization.
    21. 0
      26 September 2022 08: 31
      Something harmful fashion appeared in this war - to gouge in the forehead of fortified areas. what
      Well, they're not the first ones, but it makes more questions - "What the heck?" request
    22. 0
      26 September 2022 13: 39
      To date, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have occupied small territories in the north of the Kherson region, where they are suffering heavy losses. But, as indicated in the publication, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no choice - if they do not achieve success in the near future, then after the start of the October rains, which turn the roads into mud, this will not be possible at all. Therefore, the attacks of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are constantly renewed in order to eventually capture Kherson and, as noted, "demonstrate the usefulness of the weapons transferred by the West."
      So far, USEFUL only for Russian troops is a LIVING SHELL where you can beat out Ukronazis.
    23. -1
      26 September 2022 15: 09
      The offensive is worth certain losses. Somewhere successful, somewhere not. But the fact that the RF Armed Forces went on the defensive is a fact. And 404 has an initiative...
    24. 0
      26 September 2022 17: 14
      Quote from tsvetahaki
      BUT!!!, there is a nuance,

      Have you read the exchange list?
      For example, a "blogger" who tortured and killed our captured tanker on camera?

      As Anatoly Molchanov (Donetsk), a participant in the assault on Azovstal, wrote in a contact, the inmates there are the same for him as "ordinary" dill, and in the sense of torturing and killing prisoners, he does not notice the difference.
    25. 0
      26 September 2022 17: 22
      Quote: Alex_1973
      And the lives of our guys are more important, they will still be very useful to us.
      !


      Disgusting hypocrisy. The lives of our military are easily sacrificed under the pretext of pleasing the West or "peaceful Ukrainians."
      In order to protect our military and minimize the risk of being captured, we need to use long-range weapons, we need to intensively bomb the Ukrainian infrastructure. It is necessary not to drag poorly trained people to war. It is necessary to supply modern weapons not to Kyrgyzstan or Ethiopia, but to the Donbass.
      Only none of this is being done, and the value of the life of soldiers is remembered solely for rotten excuses.
    26. +1
      26 September 2022 17: 56
      The degenerates of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not able to understand the obvious - they are cynically thrown to the slaughter, completely meaningless ..

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