Tu-214R in a special military operation in Ukraine: less than a year

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Tu-214R in a special military operation in Ukraine: less than a year

Approximately seven months ago, when the special military operation (SVO) in Ukraine had just begun, and we were all inspired by its achievements and the hope for an early victory, the author of this article published material "Russian special operation in Ukraine: to dispel the fog of war". One of the key theses of this article was the rationale for the mandatory use of the latest Tu-214R reconnaissance aircraft during the special operation in Ukraine.

At the time of writing that article, there was no information about the use of the Tu-214R during the special operation, although there was evidence that this aircraft was tested in Syria. Nothing has changed for more than six months, Tu-214R aircraft, apparently, were not used during the special operation, columns of Ukrainian armored vehicles moved to the front line with impunity, the latest American multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) HIMARS (In fact, in its current design, the Khaimars are not MLRS, but tactical missile surface-to-surface guided weapons systems) and M777 howitzers strike with impunity on the armed forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces), peaceful settlements and especially dangerous facilities, such as the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant (NPP).



A little later, in June 2022, the need to use Tu-214R aircraft was considered in the article "Issues on the use of AWACS aircraft, reconnaissance and combat control during the NWO in Ukraine".

And finally, on September 24, 2022, according to information leaked to the press, during a special military operation in Ukraine, the Russian Armed Forces used the Tu-214R reconnaissance aircraft for the first time.

It's done. Not even a year has passed, only 7 months.

Although the first of the two ordered reconnaissance aircraft Tu-214R took off back in May 2012 - more than ten years ago.

Tu-214R - a long way to the sky


Tu-214R is a complex electronic and optical reconnaissance aircraft. Its tasks are different from those of the A-50 airborne early warning aircraft (AWACS). Instead of the mushroom-shaped antenna above the fuselage, which is available on the A-50 aircraft, the Tu-214R is equipped with lateral conformal radar stations (RLS) with phased antenna arrays (PAR) located along the fuselage. However, the main difference between the Tu-214R is not in the location of the radar, since there are also AWACS aircraft, in which the radars are also located along the sides of the fuselage.

The main difference is the priority work on identifying, recognizing and selecting ground targets, and targeting them with various means of destruction – artillery, MLRS, aviation. It is possible that the Tu-214R can also work on air targets, but its priority is ground targets (possibly surface ones as well). The Tu-214R also has a Fraction high-resolution optoelectronic system, presumably due to which it is possible to ensure effective recognition of detected targets.

Further, some kind of mess began - according to open data published in the media (mass media), the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU), to which the aircraft belongs, was dissatisfied with the Tu-214R, primarily with its flight duration, and sent it to the Ministry of Defense Russian Federation a letter with a proposal to abandon further purchases of this machine.

Firstly, why does the Tu-214R belong to the GRU at all - in order to complicate interaction with the Air Force (Air Force) and Ground Forces (SV), whose forces and means it must promptly direct to identified targets? And secondly, do we have an alternative? Dozens or hundreds of reconnaissance aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) for various purposes? One can still understand if the problems would be related to the operation of the radar equipment of this aircraft, but if the nit-picking was only in part of the carrier, the Tu-214 (Tu-204), then any artificial delays in the creation of the Tu-214R reconnaissance aircraft are much more than a mistake.

It is characteristic that the United States uses the Boeing E-8 JSTARS reconnaissance aircraft, made on the basis of the Boeing 707 carrier. So, the flight characteristics of the Boeing E-8 JSTARS (Boeing 707) and Tu-214R are comparable. At the same time, the Boeing E-8 JSTARS was put into operation back in 1991, and the US Air Force currently has seventeen of these machines.


The flight characteristics of the Russian Tu-214R (left) and the American E-8 JSTARS (right) are almost identical. Image by wikipedia.org

If the Russian Air Force had seventeen Boeing E-8 JSTARS (we mean a functional Tu-214R), then the resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine would have been suppressed long ago - it is extremely difficult, almost impossible to win in conditions where your every step is known to the enemy.

So why was the Tu-214R deployed with such a delay? We will most likely never know the answer to these questions. It is possible that at the testing stage in Syria, serious shortcomings were found in the work of the Tu-214R, after all, it was the radar complex that was being eliminated all this time. And it is possible that this is only a consequence of the confusion that accompanies the NWO from the very beginning.


This image is seen by the operator of the American reconnaissance aircraft E-8 JSTARS. Image by wikipedia.org

What advantages will the Tu-214R give to the Russian armed forces and what consequences will its use lead to?

Victory Catalyst


If the complex is operational, then it will allow you to instantly open the movement of all those reinforcements that the Armed Forces of Ukraine send to the front line. The Tu-214R will also ensure the opening of the positions of HIMARS rocket launchers and other long-range weapons systems currently in the possession of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and those that will be supplied by Western accomplices of the Ukronazis in the future.

A multiple increase in the efficiency of the work of Russian aviation, artillery and missile weapons will make the top leadership of Ukraine think - it is unlikely that they will decide to roam the territory of the left-bank Ukraine.

The flow of Western weapons sent to Ukraine will be significantly reduced, firstly, because they will be promptly destroyed immediately after they arrive at the front line, and secondly, the effectiveness of their destruction will make Western countries think about the advisability of arms supplies in principle.

Do not forget about the Zaporizhia NPP - perhaps it is the Tu-214R aircraft that will make it possible to wean the Armed Forces of Ukraine from inflicting suicidal strikes on it for Ukraine.


The flight route of the US Air Force E-8 JSTARS aircraft near the border with Ukraine on March 23, 2022 - our enemies are using the capabilities of these machines to the fullest. Image by wikipedia.org

Considering that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are currently conducting active offensive operations in some sectors of the front, the use of the Tu-214R will potentially turn the tide in favor of the Russian armed forces.

If the leadership of the Russian Federation decides destroy transport routes across the Dnieper, then the Tu-214R aircraft will allow in the shortest possible time to “grind” the remnants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of the left-bank Ukraine.

One thing is certain: aircraft of the Tu-214R type, as well as AWACS aircraft, are extremely important for the RF Armed Forces. The conduct of a special operation in Ukraine revealed significant problems with the provision of intelligence information to the RF Armed Forces. There is not enough data not only from aviation, but also from satellite reconnaissance. One can only welcome the involvement of Tu-214R aircraft, albeit with a significant delay, in the activities of the special operation conducted by Russia on the territory of Ukraine and hope that the results of this work will become one of the cornerstones in building our Victory.
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  1. 11+
    27 September 2022 04: 31
    mobilization .. it is necessary to carry out the entire army as well as an audit! The 30-year-old mess has only intensified since the days of the USSR .. in the souls and heads of people!
    1. 10+
      27 September 2022 06: 50
      Quote: Nitarius
      The 30-year-old mess has only intensified since the days of the USSR
      What, there was no chaos during the USSR? It was just that everything was kept secret. And then, when Mishanya the Marked (may the earth be glass wool to him) proclaimed glasnost, it all came out into the open.
  2. +4
    27 September 2022 04: 44
    I agree with the article. I think the carrier is not so important here, well, let's say there is no Tu-204, who prevents the equipment from being placed on the MS-21, it is the special-purpose equipment that is important. Allowing for a long distance, in real time to transmit information to the troops. And such aircraft are now simply needed.
    1. +9
      27 September 2022 05: 37
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      well, let's say there is no Tu-204,

      Good morning, the plane was, is, and it seems like it is not planned to be discontinued. In any case, it is easily made in Kazan. There are also aircraft built under the Open Skies program for flights over the territories of NATO countries, they can also be used for reconnaissance. hi
      1. +4
        27 September 2022 06: 54
        Good. hi I don't dispute that it exists. I say that the equipment is more important than the aircraft itself.
    2. 19+
      27 September 2022 06: 36
      I think the carrier is not so important here, well, let's say there is no Tu-204, who prevents the equipment from being placed on the MS-21, it is the special-purpose equipment that is important.

      Firstly, there is already a Tu-204, secondly, it is completely domestic, thirdly, it has been tested and proved to be a reliable aircraft. The Tu-204 in the latest modifications is capable of flying 10 km, so it is from it that the Tu-204R should be made, and it would be nice to make an AWACS aircraft out of it, which our Air Force is sorely lacking.
      Well, the reason why there is no Tu-204R in sufficient quantities in our army is exactly the same as why there are no UAVs, why there are no AWACS or heavy infantry fighting vehicles, all because of the incompetence and embezzlement of our country's leadership and the army. There are no other reasons.
      Our country produces Su-34, X-31 and X-58 anti-radar missiles, Tu-204R, A-50U, Orion strike UAVs. If there is a competent leader in our country and puts a professional in charge of our army, then all these samples, with the right combination, will smash the entire air defense of Ukraine in a month and allow our Air Force to operate freely over the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at altitudes of more than 5 km.
      1. +2
        27 September 2022 06: 55
        I do not argue. The main thing in my thought was that the aircraft is not as important as its equipment. hi
      2. -5
        27 September 2022 21: 21
        The Tu-204 was outdated 20 years ago, the MS-21 has a much higher efficiency, and therefore it can fly longer and further
        1. +3
          28 September 2022 17: 59
          While the complex for MS-21 is being developed, it will also become obsolete as a carrier
        2. +2
          28 September 2022 22: 22
          Quote: Sergey Kazarin
          The Tu-204 was outdated 20 years ago, the MS-21 has a much higher efficiency, and therefore it can fly longer and further

          I suspect that the MS-21 was originally designed as a purely civilian aircraft. It has a composite wing and all that. It is unlikely to make a good military aircraft. If Americans, with their line of modern Boeings, they are making their reconnaissance aircraft based on the grandfather of the Boeing - 707, then this is probably not without reason.
          1. -1
            28 September 2022 23: 31
            I think the military needs a reliable and economical one, but this is not about 214
            1. +2
              29 September 2022 00: 14
              Quote: Sergey Kazarin
              I think the military needs a reliable and economical one, but this is not about 214

              The profitability of the military worries in the third place. As a platform, the aircraft must be reliable, easy to operate at any home airfield, and have an acceptable / specified flight range / loitering time.
              The latest version of the Tu-204 (built in Kazan as the Tu-214) flew freely from Moscow to Khabarovsk and Vladivostok. They wanted to replace the Il-62 on these routes. It is certified (unlike the MS-21), has a normal (repairable even in the conditions of the home airfield) duralumin wing, completely domestic. You can’t imagine a better aircraft for a base of specialized reconnaissance aircraft, PLO aircraft, AWACS and a flying command post on a theater of operations.
              And a new PD-18 will appear (for the next modification of the MS), it will be possible for him (Tu-214) to organize remotorization combined with scheduled repairs.
              1. -2
                29 September 2022 13: 31
                First of all, because efficiency gives load capacity, taking into account the backward and heavy Russian equipment, this is important.
                The latest version of the Tu-204 is the Tu-204M and it does not exist in nature.
                In Kazan they somehow build 3 units a year, missing deadlines
                1. 0
                  29 September 2022 20: 53
                  Quote: Sergey Kazarin
                  First of all, because economy gives carrying capacity,

                  belay How is that?
                  Economy means fuel economy. Those. - long flight range with one fuel reserve. But this is not thrust (greater), and no lighter than the opponent's glider.
                  Quote: Sergey Kazarin
                  given the backward and heavy Russian technology, this is important.

                  Want to compare with Boeing 707? laughing
                  The carrying capacity of the Tu-214 is sufficient to accommodate all the necessary equipment, supplies and combat crew. With a margin. And the reserve, using to accommodate additional fuel tanks (in the luggage compartment), will increase the practical flight range. And as a base for a specialized military reconnaissance aircraft, the Tu-214 is the best possible candidate.
                  The MS-21 is not suitable precisely because of the composite wing.
                  Quote: Sergey Kazarin
                  In Kazan, somehow they build 3 pieces a year, breaking deadlines

                  Now they will produce 10 or more a year - an order has appeared. In addition, there are almost new Tu-204 \ 214s in storage, which the airlines refused for various reasons. They can be used as a base for specialized aircraft.
            2. +1
              29 September 2022 07: 05
              Quote: Sergey Kazarin
              I think the military needs a reliable and economical one, but this is not about 214

              Military economy has always put the place so on the 12th. But the presence of an import-independent aircraft is an important factor. What is the share of foreign components in MS? I don't remember exactly, but it's not small.
              1. 0
                29 September 2022 13: 32
                The first for this aircraft, because the range and carrying capacity depend on it
                1. 0
                  29 September 2022 18: 47
                  Quote: Sergey Kazarin
                  The first for this aircraft, because the range and carrying capacity depend on it

                  Again. In order to lift something, you need to make an airplane. You probably know how to do this if it contains 40% foreign components. To me - no.
        3. 0
          28 September 2022 23: 21
          Tu 204 Yes, but ms 21 is not. You always need to use what is available and not wait for years when they make a super duper
          1. -2
            28 September 2022 23: 28
            Tu-204 does not exist, there are 214 of which somehow rivet 3 pieces a year
            1. 0
              28 September 2022 23: 37
              ms 21 no but on the Tu 204 I flew the Red Winx company
              1. -1
                28 September 2022 23: 41
                The production of Tu-204 was curtailed long ago and the production of components was covered
                1. 0
                  28 September 2022 23: 51
                  And who is to blame for this? Boeing machinations? Or the fault of specific lovers of currency and competition?
              2. 0
                28 September 2022 23: 43
                The frets of Kamaz Krazy Zila Kalash are also outdated, but they exist. But yours is not competitive. Although there is a piece or in the process of eternal testing. And by the way, who are you going to compete with?
        4. +1
          29 September 2022 07: 13
          [quoteTu-204 was outdated 20 years ago, MS-21 has much higher efficiency] [/ quote]
          There is a Tu-204 and it is domestic, and the MS-21, which is now being tested, is half imported. Yes, and there is not such a difference in fuel consumption between them, about the Tu-204 there are more lies from all sorts of Medvedevs, Manturovs and Khristenko, it’s not for nothing that the Boeing brought the loot to them.
          1. -2
            29 September 2022 13: 33
            Try to buy something imported now. Tu-204 does not exist
            1. +1
              29 September 2022 18: 21
              There is a Tu-204/214, there is a line for KAPO, where it is assembled piece by piece and the only reason why they were not assembled anymore is because they were not ordered, now there is an order and we will see what will happen. The production of many components has remained the same, they seem to be being taken out of the semi-comatose state into which they were driven, including by the current leaders of Russia.
    3. +4
      27 September 2022 11: 03
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      I think the carrier is not so important here, well, let's say there is no Tu-204, who prevents the equipment from being placed on the MS-21, it is the special-purpose equipment that is important.

      No, it is the carrier that is important for military vehicles.
      Because until the MS-21 is 100% localized, there is no point in trying to make military aircraft based on it - they would not have allowed this to be done even before the SVO, cutting off supplies of components for both the civilian and military versions. And until the completion of full localization, only a great optimist can deploy electronic equipment "with an eye to the future" - because who knows what volumes and capacities will remain free after this localization, and what will happen with EM compatibility.
    4. 0
      27 September 2022 12: 14
      Airships can be used - these can hang in one place for days ...
    5. +4
      27 September 2022 12: 19
      tu-204, as it were, and there will be fewer problems with it than with ms-21, rather a question for the Moscow Region, which rested its horn on some performance characteristics
    6. 0
      27 September 2022 16: 55
      Here you are categorically wrong. There is such a thing - "electromagnetic compatibility". It was precisely because of problems with her, damned, that Tu-22 Interference Directors were operated on newer aircraft until very recently (comparatively) ...
    7. +1
      28 September 2022 11: 12
      Hello dear, I believe that the carrier is also extremely important, however, only in the case of a significant superiority of one over the other. For example, let's say we have a theoretical troop transport aircraft in service with reduced radio-visual visibility and acceptable flight characteristics. On the other hand, we have a passenger plane which is designed as a passenger plane and has the characteristics of a passenger plane. And finally, there is a theoretical long-range military transport aircraft that does not have reduced radio visibility, but has a monstrous operating radius and an active jamming device and / or a radio shadowing device. Accordingly, all three are actually suitable as a carrier for reconnaissance equipment, but the tactical use will be different. Accordingly, the choice of carrier with radio equipment, depending on the situation.
      However, if the choice is between two passenger planes, then it costs almost nothing to replace one plane with another. Moreover, both are essentially made in the same city. laughing Roughly speaking, to transport a few loose pieces from one workshop to another. wassat
    8. 0
      28 September 2022 23: 26
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      And such aircraft are now simply needed.
      It's actually interesting that every sane person understands this! Then who serves in our General Staff ?!
  3. +7
    27 September 2022 05: 26
    We need an ace processing information online and on guns, including, the on-board computer, in other words, found the target after 5 seconds fire
    It's time to do and strategic reconnaissance UAV
    1. +3
      27 September 2022 11: 18
      Quote: Saboteur_Navy
      We need an ace processing information online and on guns, including, the on-board computer, in other words, found the target after 5 seconds fire

      Uh-huh ... which will eventually be turned off due to the lack of input data, communication and personnel capable of working with it.
      Maybe, for starters, to establish what the RF Armed Forces already have - to supply according to the state and teach people how to work with this equipment?
      Firstly, there are, of course, no “many thousands” of specialized military UAVs actually operating in the database zone, and even more so - such a number of gasoline Orlans with their huge margin of time for patrolling in the air. The artillerymen of the “allied forces” estimate the shortage of “Orlans” as something like “we have one of the 5 or even 10 necessary for permanent successful operations.” And what do you want after that? Maviks can only unload Orlans from the task of adjusting fire on targets on the front line. Far beyond the LBS, they will not fly in, not for that car, and it will be easier for the enemy to “extinguish” them with electronic warfare in the depths of battle formations.
      Now in the war zone it’s good if there is one working “Orlan” per artillery division of 152-mm caliber. It's very good where it is. In some artillery brigades of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (!!!) even that is not there. And the requirements of the gunners, based on the tasks that they are given, are to constantly have an Orlan in the air for each battery.
      Introducing the UAV into the armament system of the troops, the military should have understood that the UAV is the same wearable consumable as many others. Like a cannon barrel or rubber on a truck. Accordingly, there should be a lot of UAVs, there should be a RESERVE so that their loss, for technical reasons or from enemy anti-aircraft fire, does not leave artillery without “eyes”. But what do we want from people who are not even able to understand that the batteries for electric aircraft that have entered the army must be changed from time to time?

      Secondly, in order for the entire counter-battery system to work, all PSNRs and Aistyats must not only be available according to the list, they must be serviceable, they must have serviceable field “power units”, that is, independent power sources, as for radars , and for radio communications calculations, and the trained calculations themselves. All this is not always there. As well as a stable constant connection, which we have “third”. And a full-fledged closed / encrypted radio communication of the entire detachment of forces solving counter-battery tasks is even rarer. Because such work requires a huge radio network with a coverage of hundreds of square kilometers and an appropriate relay system.
      And, of course, frames. Artillerymen, good artillerymen, it is long and expensive. But we have to.
      © Murz
    2. +5
      27 September 2022 11: 19
      Well, a small detail - the criteria for assessing the preparation of artillery by officers of the RF Armed Forces before the start of the NMD:
      Those who were present in the Donbass found specialists sent from Russia who were not cleared by customs, who were indignant, for example, at the fact that the paths to firing positions at the firing range were not paved with gravel. You yourself understand what kind of reaction this caused from local gunners. The visitors were not embarrassed by the fact that it would be good for gunners to train to shoot from different positions, that they should train to quickly turn around in a new place, quickly “attach”, reckon, work out and immediately turn off. That it is necessary to train the camouflage of firing positions, and not the gravel paths to them.
      © he
      1. 0
        28 September 2022 18: 01
        they were outraged, for example, by the fact that the paths to the firing positions at the firing range were not covered with gravel.

        It looks like a chase. The paths were never covered with anything. And in general, the positions were set up anew each time, precisely so that they would learn to dig in and re-tie up. And there is also a standard for deployment and dismantling, and the gun weighs 9 tons and the crew is 8 people. belay How many trenches I dug for my gun, my back still remembers laughing
  4. +7
    27 September 2022 05: 44
    Finally born...
    NVO is notable for the fact that in it the command always reacts with a delay to rapid changes in the operational situation ... this indicates a poor thoughtfulness of the details of the military operation.
    1. 0
      27 September 2022 11: 59
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Finally born.

      The A-50 AWACS aircraft have been and are being used for their intended purpose on a permanent basis since the time before the Second World War.
  5. +6
    27 September 2022 05: 54
    At the time of writing that article, there was no information about the use of the Tu-214R during the special operation
    This does not mean that the aircraft was not used. Intelligence is a quiet business and does not like unnecessary noise.
    1. +2
      27 September 2022 12: 18
      In August, I watched how one AWACS hung in the sky, the second went to land, and the third went to the sky ... They work, however ...
  6. Two
    11+
    27 September 2022 06: 36
    hi You just need to shake and go through the star people (especially the big stars!) in the Moscow Region! And send all the pot-bellied crap to demobilization! Only then will something move forward.
    1. +1
      28 September 2022 11: 21
      Will not move. The following will happen: Quite quickly, the MO will get bogged down in unfinished projects and the "zoo" of technology, often incompatible projects, as well as duplicating each other.
      Although nevertheless there is some truth in your words. In our MO, there really are quite a few, figuratively, "Comrade Dubolovs."
  7. -11
    27 September 2022 07: 02
    They were afraid to use it because not all air defense was suppressed.
    1. +7
      27 September 2022 07: 53
      Quote: Izotovp
      They were afraid to use it because not all air defense was suppressed.

      These aircraft are never used in the enemy's air defense zone. You didn't know about it? He sees around him for such a number of kilometers as no one else sees. He does not need to fly for the front line.
      1. -7
        27 September 2022 08: 16
        Is the S-300 or Buk a short-range air defense system? Or have they already run out in Ukraine?
        1. +6
          27 September 2022 09: 17
          These are different air defense systems. The S-300 will be detected by such an aircraft and disassembled into radio parts by attack aircraft before it is about to harm the Tu-214R. You, unfortunately, are extremely ignorant in this technical respect and cannot share my enthusiasm for the set of his equipment.
          1. -2
            27 September 2022 09: 45
            I know that these are different air defense systems. You cannot know the extent of my awareness. I did not give you a report on them.
            The peculiarity of the use of these air defense systems in this war was highlighted. In particular, external target designation from NATO aircraft. Therefore, your ease in destroying Ukrainian air defense "inspires optimism."
            1. +7
              27 September 2022 11: 21
              Quote: Izotovp
              The peculiarity of the use of these air defense systems in this war was highlighted. In particular, external target designation from NATO aircraft.

              No external target designation will make the missile defense system fly further than its intended performance characteristics. And no external target designation will force a competent air defense officer to deploy the DD air defense system in the zone of destruction of enemy artillery.
              That is, when calculating the range of destruction of the S-300, you can safely minus 30-40 kilometers from the front line.
              1. 0
                27 September 2022 11: 36
                So no one argues with this. Take the S-50 even 300 km away from the front line - what radius of destruction of this air defense system will remain in the depths of our defense? And how safe is it to lift such a complex as the Tu-214R or A-50 in the zone of their possible action? After the mediocre loss of the Tu-22 in the sky of Georgia, especially. They also underestimated local air defense.
                1. +2
                  27 September 2022 11: 47
                  Quote: Izotovp
                  So no one argues with this. Take the S-50 even 300 km away from the front line - what radius of destruction of this air defense system will remain in the depths of our defense?

                  According to a recent article, Sergei Linnik "Ukrainian air defense missile systems used against Russian aviation", the Armed Forces of Ukraine have S-300PT and PS with a range of up to 75 km.
  8. 11+
    27 September 2022 07: 18
    I think that the plane was simply technically faulty, for this reason it was not used .. but why there are only 2 such planes for the whole of Russia, you need to ask the brilliant headquarters and Vova Putin .. everyone noticed that the most necessary things in the Russian army are wild not enough, starting from shitty individual first-aid kits and drones and ending with such aircraft ... it’s just some kind of wild disgrace .. it’s not clear what the Ministry of Defense has been doing all these years .. although what is the demand from the Minister of Construction ..
  9. +5
    27 September 2022 07: 48
    I am sure that the situation with the use of this aircraft requires the closest attention of the military prosecutor's office, and the punishment of those responsible should have a demonstratively intimidating component. We have lost thousands of guys because of the work of enemies on this plane! If not for betrayal, then judge for sabotage!
  10. Kim
    -5
    27 September 2022 07: 58
    good thing you showed up
    bad that one (or two)
    but consider that it will be a child prodigy ...
    Mr. Yes, well, we are not "non-brothers"
    must be looked at objectively
  11. +2
    27 September 2022 08: 14
    So why was the Tu-214R deployed with such a delay? We will most likely never know the answer to these questions. It is possible that at the testing stage in Syria, serious shortcomings were found in the work of the Tu-214R, after all, it was the radar complex that was being eliminated all this time.
    If the author had given free rein to his imagination less, but searched a little, he would have found out that:
    ///The Russian army used a Tu-214R reconnaissance aircraft to expose Ukrainian military facilities. An informed source told RIA Novosti about this. According to him, one of two similar radio-technical and optical reconnaissance aircraft systems was used after repair and re-equipment.///That is, there were problems that took time to solve. But the author needs to bring his imagination to the surface.
    1. -1
      1 December 2022 08: 01
      Completely wrong, where did you get this information from?
      1. 0
        1 December 2022 08: 32
        Completely wrong

        Absolutely right.
        where does this information come from

        So you don't have the habit of reading the comment in full? It specifies the source with a quote from there. You can put it in a search engine and get the data. But when you're lazy, it's easier to report something that's wrong.
        For the lazy:
        https://ria.ru/20220924/tu-214r-1819101772.html
        1. -1
          1 December 2022 19: 45
          Why do I need a source if I myself can be a source.
          One stupid person He blurted out about using an airplane against Ukraine, and off it went...
          Your information is fundamentally wrong.
          1. 0
            1 December 2022 20: 03
            Why do I need your confidence that you are the source? Your confidence is fundamentally wrong.
            1. -1
              1 December 2022 21: 52
              Read more newspapers..
              Where can I get combat ones? It turns out that the flight mission says one thing, but according to journalists, it's something completely different.
              1. 0
                2 December 2022 08: 03
                Read more newspapers
                Actually, this is not a newspaper, I remember the differences.
                Where can I get combat?
                Yes, where they give, there you get it. Did I promise you something about this?
                And it turns out, in a flight mission, one thing
                And why should I talk about your problems?
                but from the words of journalists it is completely different.
                How are your words different from theirs? And the fact that no official denials were received on their message.
                1. -1
                  2 December 2022 11: 42
                  So I tell you. These flights have nothing to do with Ukraine.
                  1. 0
                    2 December 2022 11: 48
                    So I tell you
                    And I inform you that your information is not supported by anything. And the media made a report and no one objected to it. You do not count, we are talking about the press center of the RF Armed Forces.
                    1. -1
                      2 December 2022 12: 25
                      It is useless to discuss something with a capercaillie like you.
                      The next time the media says that they took Kyiv, will you also believe it?
                      1. 0
                        2 December 2022 12: 33
                        It is useless to discuss something with a capercaillie like you.
                        Do you hear voices? How often does this happen?
                        The next time the media says that they took Kyiv, will you also believe it?
                        Are you opposed to such an outcome? What kind of soldier are you if you don’t believe in achieving goals. Belief in victory is half the battle. But you have a different mood. That's where your denial comes from.
                      2. -1
                        3 December 2022 17: 33
                        I'm going through a medical examination, no need to flog nonsense.
                        And about Kyiv, there was nothing to climb there.
                      3. -1
                        3 December 2022 17: 43
                        I'm going through a medical examination, no need to flog nonsense.
                        Doctors are not sinless, they can easily make mistakes. Yes, it looks like it is.
                        And about Kyiv, there was nothing to climb there.
                        No, you were talking about something else. The commission made a mistake. You are losing the thread of the dialogue.
                      4. -1
                        9 December 2022 20: 10
                        You kremlebots are stupid in life, alas, it is so.
                      5. 0
                        10 December 2022 07: 33
                        And you, Maidan, are already stupid at birth. Unfortunately, it's just a fact.
  12. +3
    27 September 2022 08: 27
    When he himself served, he heard the same judgments. Properly conducted aerial reconnaissance allows you to significantly reduce the losses of ground troops. No wonder our AN-30s were constantly in the air in Afghanistan, and the Karshi regiment on the Yak-28R in full force worked for the group.
  13. +4
    27 September 2022 08: 30
    The author did not say that IL-20M were used. These are also scouts, the previous generation but upgraded. There are about 18 boards in stock. One was lost in Syria. Perhaps the characteristics of the TU-214R are not much better than those of the modernized IL-20M, and therefore they are not purchased in large quantities.
    1. 0
      27 September 2022 12: 49
      It's bigger, newer, heavier and can do more work. B737 is an example for you (Poseidon, Avax and an analogue of Tu214R) and it is serial.
      1. +2
        27 September 2022 14: 02
        The Boeing 707 is still used as a platform for equipment for various purposes, and it is the same age as the IL-18. Avax, by the way, is B707.
        1. 0
          27 September 2022 14: 44
          707 is closer in performance to 214
  14. +3
    27 September 2022 09: 01
    Everything is much more banal. There were simply no competent specialists, crew members, they prepared.
  15. +7
    27 September 2022 09: 28
    This war, like previous Russian wars, exposed the appalling incompetence of the military leadership. From top to bottom. And the horrendous proportions of theft and gouging in state production. The recovery process is underway. Corrections of absolutely egregious failures and collapses. And the main question - will we have time? Will the enemy give us time for this? Or? But there are chances. Despite numerous failures - there is. For now, there is.
  16. +2
    27 September 2022 12: 47
    It is possible that the Tu-214R can also work on air targets,

    Fresh AWACS operate both on the ground and in the air.

    We still have Tu214ON with a radar and very advanced optics idle.
  17. +1
    27 September 2022 13: 12
    Go to https://www.flightradar24.com/

    There you can see that EVERY day / night along the borders of Ukraine and Crimea, reconnaissance aircraft are constantly flying, starting with the Northrop Grumman RQ-4B Global Hawk drone (he is now 13:04 on 27.09.22/XNUMX/XNUMX over the Black Sea) and ending with various AWACS plus another tanker circles reels! Look, these planes are easy to find along their route.
    Therefore, the successful counter-offensives of the Ukrainians are not surprising... our advantage in the air is completely suppressed... The Ukrainian Armed Forces know exactly who took off and from where and are simply waiting with the radar turned off!
  18. 0
    27 September 2022 13: 15
    In my opinion, the reason why they didn’t use it is very simple - they were afraid to lose it. This plane is not a difficult target for the C300. In Syria, of course, the militants did not have air defense. And now the campaign received an order for an adult to wet. Each one is worth its weight in gold. Let's see if he survives to the end of SVO
  19. +3
    27 September 2022 15: 25
    The trouble is that there are no kotalizators who know how to ambush and throw on the victim. If it weren't for one fan of blowing up bombs, then this would not have happened at all. Can a Christmas tree give birth to an apple, unless if you draw on a cone and disguise it as an apple, it will be an apple. But for some reason, Lenin and Stalin are to blame for this, and not those who lit the fuse leading to the bomb. One is shamefully covered with plywood, and the second never existed during the Great Patriotic War. The people are used to it. And now the people are playing games with Ukraine as if the war of 1941-1945 did not exist at all. Then there was no chief commander, and now he is also gone.
  20. 0
    27 September 2022 19: 59
    What is there to attract? The aircraft is in working order. And the next one will be done only in a few years, if Russia still needs it
  21. 0
    27 September 2022 20: 05
    Now it is clear that the main problem in the absence of much-needed equipment for the CBO is the short-sightedness and myopia of some high-ranking representatives of procurement policy-makers
    1. 0
      27 September 2022 21: 40
      This was clear before, but now we see the result of all this in practice.
  22. +1
    27 September 2022 23: 50
    So when will ".the leadership of the Russian Federation decide to destroy the transport routes across the Dnieper" ??? How many more fighters must die, resources and money be spent, so that the leadership of the Russian Federation realizes that it is not possible to wage a war according to the Bible?
  23. 0
    28 September 2022 15: 51
    If there is such a weapon, thanks to which it was possible to calmly cope with the enemy’s artillery, air defense, rocket defense, then why wasn’t it used right away? And that things at the front will change radically now?
    1. 0
      29 September 2022 13: 34
      What is the use, if you find out, then all the same, Russia does not have shells that can hit moving targets, hence the problems
  24. +1
    29 September 2022 23: 52
    This glider is designed for long-range flights (replacing the Il-62). The whole economy is under it. So for MO - that's it.
  25. 0
    1 October 2022 11: 14
    A good plane, it's a pity that this is a piece goods.
    All civil aviation flies on Erbasiks and Boeings.
    Managers have been writing to their ears for years that hundreds of Carcasses will be put on the wing.
    The apotheosis was the purchase by order of 100 import-substituting aircraft (again Boeings and Barsiki).
    Meanwhile, the Chinese received 800 (!!!!) orders for their new, medium-haul C-919 (competitor 320 Barsik and 777 Boeing).
    (flying license received).

    We need to flog our effective managers who received kickbacks for the destruction of domestic industry and enthusiastically "waved" to Boeing and Airbus.
    Their names are known, the addresses of the mansions on Barvikha and Zhukovka are known.
    1. 0
      4 November 2022 16: 55
      Quote: Comrade Kim
      flies on Erbasiks and Boeings

      Firstly, yes, through the efforts of Judas within airlines and not only.
      Secondly, mind you, they are buying (buying) used aircraft.
      It is not normal.

      That is, the West paid for both the junk market and the elimination of competitors (our planes were at least no worse, but somewhat more reliable and definitely cheaper).
      As with foreign cars.

      But, there are timid hopes that the ice will break.
  26. 0
    6 October 2022 13: 06
    And besides the "information leaked to the press, is there any confirmation of the use of this aircraft?
  27. 0
    2 November 2022 20: 16
    Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
    I do not argue. The main thing in my thought was that the aircraft is not as important as its equipment. hi

    You are deeply mistaken. The complex is important. Start cramming electrics into the body of another - everything will go to hell. And the testing process? There are a lot of things there. From strength to resource. The latter are generally made for YEARS to get statistics on the failure of units. Without knowing the ford - do not bother with advice.
  28. 0
    4 November 2022 16: 48
    Maybe it's for the best that they didn't use it right away.
    Command has just come to its senses.
    Well, how would they throw them so that they caught something ...
    Well, like Moscow (although, there is a version that she could herself, that series was famous for this).
  29. 0
    4 November 2022 17: 54
    It is difficult to answer the question why they do not apply. It's a shame, there are planes, 2 pieces, but there is no application ...
  30. 0
    9 November 2022 09: 06
    About a good leader of the country and a good minister of defense it is coolly said
  31. 0
    9 November 2022 09: 34
    Sofa experts, persons not financially interested, therefore bright thoughts. The author laid it out as it should. The only thing to emphasize is that the aircraft needs appropriate protection, otherwise it will be like with Moscow or Makar
  32. -1
    18 November 2022 09: 43
    If the leadership of the Russian Federation decides to destroy the transport routes across the Dnieper,
    here is the main problem of SVO !!!!
    Our leadership does not have decisiveness or, in principle, does not understand the importance, or rather, the archival importance and essential necessity, of destroying the enemy’s transport infrastructure !!!!!
    What's the point of mobilizing if the necessary things are not being done??? That is, the mobilized must be brought up, but we will not bomb Ukraine.
    What is this, criminal negligence or betrayal ???
  33. 0
    22 November 2022 13: 29
    Why do we always have it like the proverb says - When thunder doesn't strike, the man won't cross himself. All because of the confidence that no one will dare to fight us, that we have the best nuclear weapons in the world. All these problems "big caps" should have been solved 30 years ago. And today we are catching up again and trying to outsmart. No talk - we will overcome and win everyone. But we are taking a long time to get going. And sometimes the Ministry of Defense makes mistakes.
  34. 0
    12 December 2022 12: 23
    There is no appointment of those responsible for the direction or business, as under Stalin. With the same punishment for those who failed.
    1. 0
      15 December 2022 12: 37
      I would change it, those responsible should be drafted into the army and, under the supervision of a responsible officer, work on projects, meeting deadlines.
  35. 0
    15 December 2022 12: 36
    Such Tu-204R (and it would be better to go the modern way of combining with AWACS) for the current company need a pair per war zone. On 404 there are 3 main ones so far: Kherson, LPR, DPR, Kharkov......and reconnaissance of what is happening along the borders of 404 (Odessa and North404)....at least 10 pieces are needed. And a similar device based on the Il-96 with a long range of a couple of pieces would be useful.
  36. 0
    16 December 2022 12: 53
    It is necessary to change the commander of the air defense of the Russian Federation in the NVO zone. It is necessary to take an experienced air defense specialist from Syria to the NVO zone. Frames are everything!
  37. 0
    21 December 2022 12: 48
    Hmmm... It's been almost three months. Looks like this bet didn't work either...