Ukrainian Air Force demonstrates "evidence" that an alleged Iranian combat drone was shot down near Odessa

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Ukrainian Air Force demonstrates "evidence" that an alleged Iranian combat drone was shot down near Odessa

In recent days, the Russian army has successfully used Geran-2 loitering ammunition several times to destroy military targets in Odessa, Ochakovo and Krivoy Rog. Most of them were fired at objects in Odessa and the suburbs.

In Kyiv, these attacks were taken very seriously, if not panicky. The Ukrainian side immediately announced that in fact it was an Iranian-made UAV called Shahed-136 (“Shahed-136”). The Ukrainian Air Force even publishes “proof” that they managed to shoot down an Iranian drone, but not Shahed-136, but Mohajer-6.





What explains such metamorphoses, when the Shahed suddenly became the Mohajer, the Ukrainian military does not explain. Does not bring clarity and frames, which should seem to confirm the foreign origin of the downed drone. They show a design that vaguely resembles a UAV, which, apparently, is being towed by sea. The design looks sufficient intact, which allows you to study the device in detail already on land. But there is no other photo and video evidence that the Ukrainian air defense shot down the Iranian combat drone.



After a very successful use of loitering munitions at strategic facilities in Odessa, Zelensky tried to raise an international hype by accusing Iran of nothing less than "violating Ukraine's sovereignty." If a downed foreign-made drone had actually ended up in the hands of Kyiv propagandists, one can imagine what kind of information campaign would have been launched not only in Ukraine, but also in the Western media. So far, nothing like this is happening.

The Mohajer single-engine tactical unmanned aerial vehicle is considered one of the most advanced and well-known Iranian UAVs. Mohajer-6 belongs to the latest series drones of this class, produced since 2017, is intended for reconnaissance, surveillance and fire destruction. The drone is capable of carrying up to four high-precision munitions with a total weight of up to 100 kg. "Mohajer-6" is capable of covering a distance of up to 200 km with a maximum speed of 200 km / h at an altitude of up to 5,4 km. The flight duration reaches 12 hours.

In principle, it is not important which combat UAVs the Russian army began to actively use during the special operation. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have long been fighting almost exclusively Western weapons, and this is not considered a "violation of sovereignty" of Russia. In Kyiv, they are justifiably afraid of something else. Considering that almost all kamikaze drones have reached their targets, the air defense system in Ukraine against them is currently ineffective.

It is this, and not the violation of international rules, as Zelensky claims, that most frightens the Kyiv regime. After all, it is possible that the next targets for the "Iranian" UAVs will be objects in Western Ukraine and Kyiv. As it turns out, Ukrainian air defense systems are far from always and everywhere capable of shooting down drones. In addition, drones work great at night, and their optics allow you to track and target any targets, including moving ones.
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  1. +4
    24 September 2022 11: 38
    Considering that almost all kamikaze drones have reached their targets, the air defense system in Ukraine against them is currently ineffective.
    We checked the possibility of drones, the next day the Tu-214R flew to conduct reconnaissance. For now, we will just watch, without various conclusions and conjectures.
    1. -2
      24 September 2022 11: 42
      Although after that it is not always due to this, but you are right, it suggests itself. We'll see.
      1. 0
        24 September 2022 13: 18
        We will see.
        Well, you will see well in Ukraine, or В Ukraine.
        1. 0
          24 September 2022 15: 02
          I have nothing to do with the area in question. Never even been there. But this is not the first time I have come across a misunderstanding of irony, unless you specifically emphasize it. Comedies with offscreen laughter do not lead to good laughing
          1. +2
            24 September 2022 15: 05
            But not for the first time I stumble upon a misunderstanding of irony
            Not everyone can understand such subtle humor when they stupidly distort the Russian language.
            1. +3
              24 September 2022 15: 13
              I can only advise you to learn Russian, read more, and you will often come across this expression in Russian literature.
              1. +1
                24 September 2022 15: 15
                and repeatedly meet this expression in Russian literature.
                Now this literature is on a foreign shelf.
                1. 0
                  24 September 2022 15: 24
                  Self-disclosure? Russian literature in foreign? The premium will not be paid.
                  1. +2
                    24 September 2022 15: 26
                    Self-disclosure? Russian literature in foreign?

                    This expression is most often used in Odessa. In Russia, they don’t distort their language like that, and in literature it is used mainly to refer to the area.
                    1. +3
                      24 September 2022 16: 17
                      Odessa is a Russian city, founded, built, glorified by Russia. And this misunderstanding with its Ukrainian localization will be eliminated sooner or later. In order not to get up twice: Kyiv too. And many others.
                      1. +1
                        24 September 2022 16: 37
                        Odessa - Russian city
                        You don't want to discuss it with them personally, that's the reality. I beg you to stop distorting the Russian language.
            2. -1
              24 September 2022 18: 32
              From today's comment:
              During the flight, no one holds a gun near his temple.
              And this man stands up for the purity of the Russian language. Back to school, September already, the holidays are over!
              1. 0
                25 September 2022 03: 31
                Well, yes, it would be nice for you, along with him, to take a walk to school :). Holidays are ending, not over...
                1. +1
                  25 September 2022 13: 25
                  I'll go with Kuprin then, let's laugh together:
                  The winter holidays are over. It is hard after two weeks of almost unlimited freedom to be drawn back into the harsh military discipline, into lectures and rehearsals, into drill drill, into early rising in the morning, into sleepless night shifts, into the boring repetition of days, deeds and thoughts.

                  Kuprin A. I., Juncker, 1932

    2. -7
      24 September 2022 11: 55
      Assumptions were made as to the specific purpose for which Russia used the Tu-214R aircraft in Ukraine

      Soon the DPRK will attract their development!
      In general, Koreans are very efficient and without any pretensions ..
      Let them make a stir in our diasporas hehe
      1. +4
        24 September 2022 12: 30
        Of course, if they themselves only have worthless blochers and tiktokers left, ы̶ ̶v̶y̶p̶o̶r̶o̶t̶b̶ ̶t̶a̶k̶,̶ ̶ch̶t̶o̶b̶y̶ ̶k̶l̶o̶ch̶b̶ja̶ ̶s̶ ̶z̶a̶d̶n̶i̶ts̶ ̶l̶e̶t̶ e̶l̶i̶.
    3. +2
      24 September 2022 18: 05
      Saw the vid today. A crowd of salovoyins from the teroborona runs along the Odessa beach and smacks from Kalashnikovs into the sky.
      The engine rumbles in the air. The silhouette of the UAV is visible.
      A minute later, an orange explosion flower blooms on the other side of the bay.
      "Warriors of Light" begins to beat with rage:
      - It was they who covered the headquarters, yo ... !!!
      - And where is ... our air defense?!
      More videos like this... wink
  2. -7
    24 September 2022 11: 39
    It won't be long before the West tries to link Iranian drones to China and then argues with us. Because everyone knows that Iran does not have the capacity to produce chips and optoelectronic products.
    1. 0
      25 September 2022 02: 15
      Iran has such capacities. Not in those nanometers that are now fashionable, but they have enough.
  3. -9
    24 September 2022 11: 41
    Open air defense drones, otherwise our VKS are completely depressed
    1. +15
      24 September 2022 11: 43
      Quote: dnestr74
      Open air defense drones, otherwise our VKS are completely depressed

      Our Aerospace Forces make hundreds of sorties every day. If it's "depressed", well, okay ...
      1. -2
        24 September 2022 11: 57
        Why are they silent about Caliber? They used to write about them every day. Run out, or just tired of writing about them?
        1. +2
          24 September 2022 12: 21
          we save up for a decisive blow during the offensive ... Martyrs are orders of magnitude cheaper.
        2. +2
          24 September 2022 14: 57
          Why are they silent about Caliber? They used to write about them every day. Run out, or just tired of writing about them?

          For calibers, reconnoitered targets are needed.
      2. 0
        24 September 2022 12: 33
        Quote: Volodin
        Quote: dnestr74
        Open air defense drones, otherwise our VKS are completely depressed

        Our Aerospace Forces make hundreds of sorties every day. If it's "depressed", well, okay ...

        Alex agrees here! Videoconferencing is the main thing in this war and especially in the future ..
        Everything else is just an app..
        Who owns the sky and space (satellites), he dictates the terms wink
      3. -2
        24 September 2022 12: 42
        There are no questions for the men from the VKS, they are doing their job. The question is different. 100-200 sorties on such a turbojet engine is enough or not in comparison. The US Air Force and its allies did during the war in Iraq 1000 sorties a day and on a turbojet engine much less than ours.
        1. +3
          24 September 2022 12: 57
          Quote from Sebostyuan
          The US and its allies did 1000 sorties a day during the Iraq War.

          And in Iraq, what kind of air defense was not reminded? Or in Serbia, for example? Maybe Germany, France, Britain and the USA helped them butt against the B-52?
          1. -2
            24 September 2022 15: 02
            From the fact that the Ukrainians will not have air defense, the number of aircraft in service with the VKS will not increase. Talk about it.
            1. +1
              24 September 2022 15: 07
              Quote from Sebostyuan
              Talk about it.

              I'm curious about what??? Probably about the fact that there is no one to fly stupidly? And on what it’s quite there, don’t worry.
      4. MMX
        -3
        24 September 2022 19: 14
        Quote: Volodin
        Quote: dnestr74
        Open air defense drones, otherwise our VKS are completely depressed

        Our Aerospace Forces make hundreds of sorties every day. If it's "depressed", well, okay ...


        Yes, at least 1 million sorties. If there is no result from this (and there is none), then the capabilities and capabilities of the VKS are in question, and more so.
  4. +2
    24 September 2022 11: 42
    In order for a lie to become true, one must constantly say something, and the more false, the more likely it is to be believed.
  5. -4
    24 September 2022 11: 42
    The situation with Geranium-2 is not entirely clear to me. Is it just a renamed Iranian drone? Or localized in Russia?
    1. +5
      24 September 2022 12: 20
      Special thanks to the Iranian comrades. I propose to erect in Moscow a monument to General Soleimani, who was brutally murdered by Israeli bandits. Place a monument near the Israeli embassy. Iran is the only country that actually provided assistance to our Armed Forces. As I understand from the published data, Iranian UAVs are easy to manufacture, they are essentially consumables, they can be assembled from components directly in the database zone, so it’s not so important who made them - there would be components. A gasoline engine is used. Despite the fact that these devices also buzz, it turned out to be difficult to shoot them down with anti-aircraft weapons, I think because the infrared radiation from the flight of geraniums is lower than the values ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbfor which anti-aircraft weapons used against "ordinary" drones are designed.
      1. +3
        24 September 2022 12: 39
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        I propose to erect in Moscow a monument to General Soleimani, who was brutally murdered Israeli bandits. Place a monument near the Israeli embassy.


        Атака American drones outside the Baghdad airport early Friday morning that killed Major General Qasim Soleimani
        The New York Times called the strike "the most risky move ever made. The United States in the middle east.
        In view of these circumstances, I propose to change the location of the monument.
        1. 0
          24 September 2022 13: 16
          What's the problem?! It is possible both there and there. In our small town, for example, 4! monument to Lenin for 45000 inhabitants. and I haven't heard anyone worry about it. In ancient times, Chinese comrades went to inspect, and this is money from the sale of souvenirs - even from the Chinese, but for lack of ...
        2. +1
          24 September 2022 13: 32
          The whole of Iran is now watching the news in a way that it hasn’t watched the football championships: they show how Iranian drones destroy NATO equipment laughing
        3. 0
          25 September 2022 02: 24
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          The New York Times called the strike "the most risky move the United States has taken in the Middle East.
          In view of these circumstances, I propose to change the location of the monument.

          It is at the American Embassy that there is a place for such a monument. Moreover, we have a war (so far Cold) with the United States, and Israel is still positioning itself quite neutrally ... it does not give weapons to the Sumerians.
          And Suleimani deserves a monument.
          1. 0
            25 September 2022 09: 36
            Quote: bayard
            And Suleimani deserves a monument

            I do not object and not only to him alone.
    2. 0
      24 September 2022 13: 00
      Quote from Sardelka
      The situation with Geranium-2 is not entirely clear to me. Is it just a renamed Iranian drone?

      Probably the same as the author of the article:
      What explains such metamorphoses when "Shahed" suddenly became "Mohajer"

      Namely, only by the fact that not one type is used, but several. I think we will also be able to pull up the Chinese to test the combat effectiveness of THEIR weapons. Well, what - it’s possible for bumps, but we can’t?
      1. 0
        25 September 2022 02: 28
        Quote: NDR-791
        we will also be able to pull up the Chinese to test the combat effectiveness of THEIR weapons.

        It is unlikely . The Chinese sacredly observe the sanctions and their trade interests, which (trade interests) they have primarily in the US and the EU. We even get horseradish (plant) components for purely civilian products from them. It is our help they are always happy to . And they cannot have reciprocal empathy - genetics.
  6. 0
    24 September 2022 11: 42
    Mohajer-6 is capable of covering a distance of up to 200 km with a maximum speed of 200 km/h
    And further
    Flight duration up to 12 hours
    12 hours x 200 km/h = 2400 km. Please check the technical specifications.
    1. +6
      24 September 2022 11: 45
      If your car has a maximum speed of 200 on the speedometer, then this does not mean that you are driving all the way only at this speed.
      1. +10
        24 September 2022 12: 13
        Quote: Volodin
        If your car has a top speed of 200 on the speedometer, then this does not mean

        Let's go from the opposite. If the flight duration is 12 hours, and "capable of covering a distance of up to 200 km", then the speed is no more than 16 km / h (!).
        What is it that flies with us at such a speed?
        In short, clearly the difficulties of translation in connection with the imposed sanctions. feel
        1. -2
          24 September 2022 12: 43
          Quote: BABAY22
          Let's go backwards

          Just get familiar
          https://english.iswnews.com/24793/military-knowledge-mohajer-6-reconnaissance-combat-drone/
    2. +4
      24 September 2022 12: 05
      Probably they took the info from the wiki, but could not translate it. The wiki says "operational range of 200 km", which is not quite the full range. PMSM, 200 km - range (distance from the control center), and the device can barrage up to 12 hours at a speed of 120-150 km / h.
      The photo shows a very strange design. It is somewhat reminiscent of a tail with an engine torn off with meat. The "log" is most likely part of the power structure. It is not clear why all UTB keeps afloat.
      1. -1
        24 September 2022 12: 24
        I am sure that the dill linden .... if they had caught the real Mohajer, they would have shown it with pomp on land and under this they have already justified the expulsion of the Iranian ambassador. And these shootings are about nothing, they just blinded something similar to Mohajer and showed it half in the water in poor quality - it's easier to hide the jambs of copying.
      2. 0
        25 September 2022 02: 32
        Quote: dzvero
        The photo shows a very strange design. Something like a tail feathered with meat

        On the water, an ordinary two-beam UAV, something like "Bayraktar" or our "Outpost". And there is nothing torn off. It doesn't sink because it's light. He probably hung out as a repeater near Odessa.
    3. +3
      24 September 2022 12: 12
      Quote: Iline
      Please check the technical specifications

      There is no doubt that there is a mistake in the text.

      But also in your comment.
      The maximum time spent in the air is not calculated with the maximum speed at which fuel consumption reaches peak values, but with cruising / economic speed (loitering mode).

      Perhaps 200 km is the maximum distance from the broadcast point.
      Comrade wrote about this above dzvero.

      PS
      Get well.
      Cruise mode - for a longer flight range.
      Loitering mode - for a longer flight duration.
      1. +1
        24 September 2022 20: 05
        Perhaps 200 km is the maximum distance from the broadcast point.
        Yes, I do not argue with your arguments, especially since he himself served in aviation for 28 years. Just a question to the author of the article based on the given data. It is difficult for ordinary people to compare these figures. And then suddenly the "minus" came flying.
        1. 0
          24 September 2022 20: 08
          Quote: Iline
          And then suddenly "minus" came

          The usual thing smile
    4. +1
      24 September 2022 12: 49
      Quote: Iline
      Mohajer-6 is capable of covering a distance of up to 200 km with a maximum speed of 200 km/h
      And further
      Flight duration up to 12 hours
      12 hours x 200 km/h = 2400 km. Please check the technical specifications.

      Not always everything is determined by simple arithmetic. Most likely in this case, the range is the distance at which the drone can be controlled. And for 12 hours it can fly without leaving the 200-kilometer control channel coverage area.hi
  7. +1
    24 September 2022 11: 43
    We need to think further:
    1. What we ourselves will oppose to similar kamikaze, which the West will supply to Ukraine.
    2. How to ensure our own production of various types of UAVs. And most importantly - their most effective use.

    And all the same, the question is - why does Kyiv, the entire infrastructure of the enemy's capital, the Kyiv authorities live in peace?
    1. 0
      24 September 2022 12: 56
      I have an advertisement on buses in my city with an invitation to work in Dubna for a tricky enterprise. This is about our supply
  8. RGB
    +2
    24 September 2022 11: 44
    Well, they shot down and shot down, for the war, this norm and the ancient Soviet-made air defense that the Ukrainians have only speaks of its Soviet quality and reliability!
  9. -9
    24 September 2022 11: 50
    Quote: Volodin

    Our Aerospace Forces make hundreds of sorties daily

    And where are the results of these hundreds of sorties?
    1. 0
      24 September 2022 12: 01
      I live in the south, a multinational republic
      , Every day fly by my db or strategists.
  10. 0
    24 September 2022 11: 50
    Well, then what?
    What does the Clown want to achieve or did he get his trousers dirty out of fear?
    What is Iran's fault?
    Russia bought goods from him and uses them as they want.
    Punish Iran? So he is already under sanctions.
    fool
  11. +1
    24 September 2022 11: 54
    Well, shot down and shot down, it is not clear what the problem is. They want to let them complain to the UN.
    1. 0
      24 September 2022 21: 48
      If they shoot down, then lumps remain from him, and if they landed, then the question is to control.
  12. +2
    24 September 2022 11: 55
    The dumbest excuse, but to be dumber than the American one. I swear by my mother, he got lost?!
  13. 0
    24 September 2022 11: 58
    A good and successful invention, quite cheap, this UAV is capable of a lot given the range, but it’s just huge, it turns out that you can cover the whole of Ukraine ...
    1. 0
      24 September 2022 12: 32
      it turns out that the whole of Ukraine can be covered
      They immediately noticed that there was an error in the text of the news, that "flight range" was confused with "range of action." A circle with a radius of 200 km on the map will not "cover" the entire area of ​​interest.
    2. 0
      24 September 2022 12: 57
      Figuratively speaking, Geraniums cover the territory of Ukraine like a bright sheep.
  14. 0
    24 September 2022 12: 29
    If a downed foreign-made drone had actually ended up in the hands of Kyiv propagandists, one can imagine what kind of information campaign would have been launched not only in Ukraine, but also in the Western media. As long as nothing like this happens
    It would be nice to think over a mechanism for self-destruction in drones in the event of unauthorized partial disassembly or a change in the recipient address. To use the effectiveness of the UAV to the maximum. good bully drinks
  15. 0
    24 September 2022 12: 31
    Iran is an indicator that when you were brought under sanctions, you don’t care who and what to supply ..... Then the Russian Federation will do it ....
    1. -1
      24 September 2022 12: 39
      you do not care
      I personally did not care when our UN mission supported sanctions against Iran several years ago, Lavrov then made statements without being embarrassed by what was happening ... And I was ashamed of our diplomacy! I wonder if the Iranians heard an apology from our side for these actions?
      1. 0
        24 September 2022 13: 12
        Iran is useful for us in two ways:
        1. Independent state
        2 he is at our border.


        The rest of his interests are his personal ..... And not everything is needed by the Russian Federation
  16. 0
    24 September 2022 12: 37
    Not neither? Even if it's an Iranian drone, what's next? Every day we shoot down American missiles, destroy howitzers, not to mention Polish tanks and German armored personnel carriers and a bunch of other foreign equipment !! What is the problem then??? am
  17. +2
    24 September 2022 12: 38
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    Iranian UAVs are easy to manufacture, they are essentially consumables, they can be assembled from components directly in the database area

    Yes, yes, they are very simple, but for some reason not for our Skolkovo and other nanodevelopers - you see, they are very cheap and there will be nothing to cut, therefore we don’t rivet ourselves, at least a small decl from foreign contracts
  18. -2
    24 September 2022 12: 46
    Ukraine - if only to make the "exhaust" louder! so that the circles on the water go! All rubbish is published!
  19. -1
    24 September 2022 12: 47
    Iranian, Syrian, what's the difference.
    Soon we will buy Bayraktars, so what?
    If we don’t know how to do it ourselves, we will buy at least from the Jews.
    1. -1
      24 September 2022 14: 05
      Quote: Arkady007
      If we don’t know how to do it ourselves, we will buy at least from the Jews.

      It already happened, but it didn't help much.
  20. 0
    24 September 2022 16: 40
    There are several questions here. In the event of a technical malfunction, Mohajer-6 would most likely have collapsed upon impact with water. And another question - it's not a waterfowl, and quite heavy.
  21. 0
    24 September 2022 18: 07
    And someone claimed that they are absolutely unbreakable? This weapon is essentially a consumable of war. As long as the damage caused by these drones exceeds the cost of the drone, including those shot down, everything is in order. This is true for our UAVs, it is true for the Ukrainian Bayraktars. Such is the war.
  22. 0
    24 September 2022 21: 47
    Correct me if I am wrong. An aircraft with a high-wing wing is pulled in tow, and in the photo of Mujaher he has a low-wing wing.
  23. 0
    25 September 2022 00: 02
    Looks like good drones.
    BUT.
    Under VERY good management, they do quite miracles wink laughing

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