The Ministry of Defense named another category of citizens exempted from mobilization

The Ministry of Defense decided not to recruit another category of Russian citizens for military service as part of partial mobilization - the so-called "IT people", i.e. high technology workers. The corresponding notice is published on the website of the military department.

After the start of partial mobilization, a number of Russian IT companies appealed to the relevant departments with an appeal to provide highly qualified specialists of companies with a deferment from conscription while working in these organizations. The main argument was the statement that there are not so many high-ranking specialists in this area in Russia, and their mobilization can negatively affect the activities of defense industry enterprises and lead to the disruption of government contracts. In addition, the work of high-tech industries and the financial system of Russia depends on them.

The appeal was promptly considered and today the Ministry of Defense issued a statement that citizens with higher education who are employed in the following industries are exempted from mobilization: organizations operating in the field of information technology, employees of Russian telecom operators providing their work, backbone organizations in the field of information and communications , in organizations that ensure the stability of the national payment system.

For exemption from mobilization, there is no need to collect any certificates and personally carry them to the military registration and enlistment office, everything is solved much easier.

The lists of citizens submitted by the heads of the relevant organizations in the prescribed form to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will be considered the basis for exemption from involving citizens in military service for mobilization.

- Reported in the Ministry of Defense.

Comments

[frog]

Well, that's it, now we will have 100500 IT specialists. Or even more ..... True, somehow the demand for them has fallen, if you believe the specialized sites, but that's it ...

[cold wind]

Official information from MO. Very large groups of companies have fallen.

In order to ensure the operation of certain high-tech industries, as well as the financial system of the Russian Federation, a decision was made not to enlist in the military service as part of the partial mobilization of citizens with higher education in the relevant specialties and areas of training, working:

1. in accredited organizations operating in the field of information technology and involved in the development, development, implementation, maintenance and operation of solutions in the field of information technology and ensuring the functioning of information infrastructure;

2. in Russian telecom operators and involved in ensuring the stability, security and integrity of the functioning of communication facilities, data processing centers, as well as public communication facilities and lines of the Russian Federation;

3. in backbone organizations in the field of information and communications, as well as their interdependent persons who are the founder and (or) editorial office and (or) publisher of a registered mass media and (or) broadcaster of a TV channel, radio channel and involved in the production and (or) distribution of mass media products;

4. in organizations that ensure the stability of the national payment system and financial market infrastructure, bank liquidity management, cash circulation.

The lists of citizens submitted by the heads of the relevant organizations in the prescribed form to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will be considered the basis for exemption from the involvement of citizens in military service for mobilization.

[frog]

By itself. Where are the IT people? Especially if they don't get paid yet. True, there is a very funny thing here .... I know quite a lot of reviews that .... many representatives of this glorious profession, especially young people, have a somewhat inadequate perception of the real. They want much more than they can ..... However, there are enough various similar characters in other professions .....

[alexmach]

somewhat inadequate perception of reality. They want more than they can...

Envy silently :)

[frog]

Free. Bo envy is not familiar to me, and everything is in order with the work. But the squeals around this dull guano are still annoying. No more.

[Alexga]

True, there is a very funny thing here .... I know quite a lot of reviews that .... many representatives of this glorious profession, especially young people, have a somewhat inadequate perception of the real.

How funny too! In Belarus, more precisely in Minsk, with this circus with horses. Here is the situation. Created many private courses to train programmers. They are paid. There are no lectures given there as specialists, thank God, there is a lot of literature on the Internet. Lectures were read, money was received and a piece of paper with a seal was issued. No responsibility for knowledge! And here the most interesting begins. The company recruits 5 such specialists, 1 is needed, with a salary of $ 700, four are fired, they are hired in the next company also 5, when only 1 is also needed, but with a salary of $ 800, since he allegedly has experience in the previous company. And everything spins like this. There are many IT specialists, but few specialists. I think it's the same everywhere in our space. I think they will find a way to dress such an audience in belts.

[alexmach]

You wrote some nonsense. No one out of their pocket will hire five when only one is needed, and no one will pay anyone for such an experience. Moreover, 700 is a bit too much both for Belarus in general and for an IT specialist after the course, you really need to work for that kind of money, I’m telling you from the height of 20 years of IT experience, if anything.

[Alexga]

You wrote some nonsense.

Well, I conditionally bulked up the number of salaries, the principle of how this happens is important here. And the cost of wages to extra workers is included in the price of products. And the rest is all the same. A couple of times I attended interviews when hiring new employees, so I heard with my own ears the requirements for wages from young people, allegedly with work experience. And this is a company in the Hi-Tech Park. The management painted this picture for me.

[alexmach]

Well, I conditionally bulked up the number of salaries, the principle of how this happens is important here

Well, it does not happen according to this principle, I speak as a person, including those who took part in this. This very first experience, which will allow you to feel really comfortable in the labor market, you still have to work hard to earn.

so with my own ears I heard the demands for wages from young people, allegedly with work experience

Let's just say that IT specialists have certain opportunities due to market conditions, and it would be foolish not to use these opportunities. And they don't have them for nothing. And such people among other workers have always existed. A skilled worker in pre-revolutionary Russia lived quite to himself at the level of modern IT specialists, and in Soviet times a skilled worker earned very decently. The means of production have only changed somewhat, and so it is the same skilled workers.

ostensibly with work experience

So the presence or absence of this "supposedly" experience, as well as its quality, is actually checked at a time.

[Alexga]

Why are you explaining to me common truths, how everything should happen, I know. I have outlined what I encountered. No more.

[alexmach]

I'm talking about exactly how it happens. It is difficult for me to judge what you encountered there and how adequately you evaluate it.

[Rustic]

So the presence or absence of this "supposedly" experience, as well as its quality, is actually checked at a time.

This is the point. How many people go through this? And again, this is the IT sector. Here, even in order to break through, you need to understand at least a little what is there and how. Who is OK with us? That's right, either grannies from the Brezhnev era, or girls after courses in HR managers. For those and others, the IT field is generally a Chinese diploma.

[alexmach]

This is the point. How many people go through this?

E .. M .. Do you seriously think that people who pay a young specialist from their own pocket more than the average salary in the country simply do not check at the entrance what they are paying for?

you need to understand at least a little what is there and how

Well, no way without it. But where they don’t understand anything in IT, they probably don’t have a need for this IT, and they don’t have any decent money for it either. Where there is a real need for IT, this need is also understood.

For those and others, the IT sphere is generally a Chinese diploma.

I worked in my student years and in a company where there are only grandmothers in the personnel department (at a metal depot, if that). I earned there at the level of a cleaner. In the first place where they paid at least somewhat decently, professionals took me to work.

[Rustic]

In the first place where they paid at least somewhat decently, professionals took me to work.

That is, you agree that it is quite possible for an average Eityshnik to gain experience through such grandmothers. And then go figure out with what luggage he came to a serious company. Just call and ask how he worked for you - he won’t give any information. On this, everything is still. Rests on OK. How many professionals are there?
Grandmothers are different. There are also prosharnye. You go and talk to your future immediate supervisor, and then I'll tell you whether we took you or not. Freeloader - yes. Technically, yes.
This is from personal experience. We don't like you, okay, go and talk, you never know... Ok, you're accepted on your terms.

[alexmach]

That is, you agree that it is quite possible for an average Eityshnik to gain experience through such grandmothers

No, I don't agree. Firstly, you will not gain any experience through grandmothers.
Secondly, on the same metal base, an adult IT specialist from the main office also talked to me.
Thirdly, I personally, in the first, that in the next decent place of work, I sold my university education in the first place.

And then go figure out with what luggage he came to a serious company

Again. A professional can see everything with the naked eye.

On this, everything is still. Rests on OK. How many professionals are there?

In general, it does not rest at all. All OK that I saw in my life were just an unnecessary vestige.

You go and talk to your future immediate supervisor, and then I'll tell you whether we took you or not. Freeloader - yes. Technically, yes.

And there are no other options with any specialists in general.

[Rustic]

All OK that I saw in my life were just an unnecessary vestige.

Here I completely agree with you. And in a dispute on other points, on trifles, I see no point. I always got a good job through .. You go and talk ... I don’t know how to communicate with these grandmothers and blondes. Give me a normal, thinking man, I can easily agree with him ... Or I won’t agree if he wants to pay little for expensive work.

[Rustic]

No one out of his pocket will hire five when only one is needed.

And here you are wrong. Hired, how. At least as far as professions with a high entry threshold are concerned. It is in the place of one loader that you can take another and he will somehow drag it. A specialist, he either does or cannot. And if a downtime in a week means a karachun for the whole company, then it’s better to overpay for five, at least one will shoot.

[alexmach]

If your business can fail because of the person hired yesterday, and at the same time the whole company will have a karachun, then something is very, very wrong with you and it will still fail and sooner rather than later by itself.

[Rustic]

Not every business can afford to have a reserve specialist. It is better to overpay at a time than to keep ballast all the time.

[bk316]

Strange scheme. I have been an IT director of a large office for over 20 years. Gained over the years the darkness of programmers.
1. You can't hire any programmer for 700 greens. Minimum from 2.5K$
2. hire 5 instead of one (as I understand it, to find out who is good for what is insanely expensive) not because of their salary, but because they will have to be pastured by people whose salary is already over 5k$ + workplace + testers + code review + taxes + risks of information leakage + ....
In general lies.

[alexmach]

In general lies.

Why lie. Those who can afford to engage in the cultivation of young personnel, all sorts of interns there, somehow act. But not at all for the money that the commentator writes about. Yes, it's difficult and expensive.

[Rustic]

Those who can afford

Here, this is the whole point. Those who can afford it are profitable for those. And for those who can't, it's just a loss.
Investing in a specialist is a long time. And without additional investments, this is also not reliable. And for a quick one, yes, such a roulette, I took 5 and shot one. But then in a year he will recoup what you spent on those four. And yes, I do not like this approach. But business in general is a cruel thing.

[alexmach]

Here, this is the whole point. Those who can afford it are profitable for those. And for those who can't, it's just a loss.

No, in the short term, hiring a ready-made is always more profitable. That's why they pay well.
And in the long term, recapturing the money invested is very, very problematic and not easy. I'm talking about students. And this is the only place where you can take five and shoot one.

With mature specialists, this is simply impossible ... or almost impossible.

[bk316]

Those who can afford to engage in the cultivation of young personnel

I don't know a single commercial office that grows like this from 0 courses. Won't you call me? Startups simply don’t have such a need, and giants definitely don’t do it, I know everyone.
Well, as for the state salaries, how correctly you noticed others, so either here or there lies.

[alexmach]

and the giants definitely don't, I know everyone

EPAM? Luxsoft? In my village, all large and medium-sized offices did this. Not from courses, of course, when I had to do with it, they were aiming at smart students with no experience. Although maybe now the courses have become more valuable. and it's not completely from scratch, although in the place where I was involved in this practice took up to 6 months and had a clear curriculum. All the rest, on average, fit into the market in 3 months, but this is not quite a “growth”, it is rather just an extended stage of selection, although they certainly learn something there too.

[zombirusrev]

So not only with IT specialists ... try to find a normal welder, especially for titanium .. "For the vacancy of a welder for titanium in an argon environment, do not apply to people over 95 years old." (C)

[frog]

It is much more difficult to make a titanium welder than an IT specialist. More essential. Because the softina is most often written in unison, and the welder cooks alone. And by no means in an easy chair with air conditioning and a cooler .....

[bk316]

They want more than they can...

This property is not of IT people, but of people in general - of any kind, but especially of young people.

[Trapp1st]

That's all, now we will have 100500 IT specialists

You can open an IT company...)

[NKT]

They could be involved in attacks on the servers of our "friends".

[zombirusrev]

Who are the specialists who have passed the courses "Evening "The Way to IT" with Ivan Urgant" on gitbrein... I almost collapsed from my chair as I read it...
https://gb.ru/path-to-it/it_star_08?from=banner_story_path_to_it_urgant_26082022&

[BARKAS]

That's all, now we will have 100500 IT specialists
You can open an IT company...)

In the interests of the Ministry of Defense, the rest in the construction battalion if there is no military specialty.

[Rustic]

Uh no, why waste a valuable resource stupidly. UAV operators from them will be excellent. For anyone, there are all without exception gamers with decent experience and experience. But to dig trenches, what will a goner dig up there if he didn’t lift anything heavier than a mouse?

[Harbinger68]

Even in customs and tax offices they will rush, there is a reservation for a year

[Sergey250455]

This applies only to those who work in the Ministries of Digital Development, Communications and Mass Communications.

[Nastia makarova]

all system administrators of any small office

[Rustic]

Without a cleaner and a system administrator, any office in a month - kirdyk.

[your vsr 66-67]

Unmeasured field for corruption! Paid the head of the company, and you are an IT specialist!

[Geosun]

We are talking about system-forming enterprises. And how do you imagine a man from the street who is able to pay a conditional Gref, Potanin or Alikberov for an IT position?

[Rustic]

And how do you imagine a man from the street who is able to pay a conditional Gref, Potanin or Alikberov for an IT position?

Easily! In any town there is an official representative of Greff, who will agree to a quite raising amount. Or do you think Gref personally conducts interviews with all his employees?

[bk0010]

Quote: frog

That's all, now we will have 100500 IT specialists.

The same was said when it came to preferential mortgages for IT people. But IT people broke off: it turned out that IT people are not those who work with a computer, but those who need it. With preferential taxes, the same thing: only for "court" firms.

[Aerodrome]

those present, also "IT people"? which of you goes to the front? have you thought about the future? they will "knock out" the necessary personnel and professions ... what are we going to do? and so not in the leaders in technology.

[Beetle1991]

Exactly.
"Armor" happens not only at defense enterprises. And even in the most difficult wars, with general mobilization, some categories of specialists were protected and not sent to the front. This has been practiced in many countries.
All the same, not a general mobilization.
And you can’t find good IT specialists during the day with fire.
Most of the smart ones went abroad. With such a specialty, it is easy to find a highly paid job over the hill.
So it's okay. Otherwise, this mobilization will scare away all IT people.

[Alexey Polferov]

1st category - Children of oligarchs; Not discussed
2nd Category - Specialists;
the rest at an expense, and rightly so - why does the state need parasites? They don’t produce anything, just give it and download the rights ...

[AAK]

But at the expense of the 1st category, you need to think about expanding: + the kids of officials, politicians and generals, how are they - an alternative service, or just a white ticket with a simultaneous plane ticket to Turkey or Israel? And from what amount or place in Forbes should dad be considered an oligarch?

[tatarin1972]

There is no need for generals' children, an old fairy tale, from the first Chechen war. But about the kids of high-ranking state officials, you need to take them by the trunk and into the troops.

[isv000]

Quote: tatarin1972

There is no need for generals' children, an old fairy tale, from the first Chechen war. But about the kids of high-ranking state officials, you need to take them by the trunk and into the troops.

Well, for example, Aksyonov's son is in the ranks, mobilized ...

[tatarin1972]

So I write about the same thing. But some don't understand.

[Alf]

Quote: isv000

Quote: tatarin1972

There is no need for generals' children, an old fairy tale, from the first Chechen war. But about the kids of high-ranking state officials, you need to take them by the trunk and into the troops.

Well, for example, Aksyonov's son is in the ranks, mobilized ...

And the son of Big Mustache jumped off ...

[tatarin1972]

For those who do not understand, there are generals' sons, there are sons of generals.
Generals whose sons died in Chechnya:
During the war in Chechnya in the 1994-1996 years the sons died:

Lieutenant General ANOSHIN Gennady Yakovlevich;
Major General NALETOV Gennady Afanasevich;
Lieutenant General SUSLOV Vyacheslav Fedorovich;
Lieutenant General of PULIKOVSKY Konstantin Borisovich;
Major General Anatoly Mikhailovich FILIPENK;
Major General of Aviation Anatoly Chigashov;

Colonel General Shpak Georgy Ivanovich.
Lieutenant General SCHEPINA Yuri.
Here they are, the "general's sons".
I think among the children of the highest command staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation there are those who are doing their duty as part of a grouping of troops in the Northern Military District.

[Beetle1991]

And now they turned to the members of the party. "Communists to Arms"

And what, just imagine Medvedev declares: all United Russia members, brothers to arms!

[frog]

And what, just imagine Medvedev declares: all United Russia members, brothers to arms!

A separate comfortable ward in Serbian is already waiting)))

[Piramidon]

Quote: Alexey Polferov

the rest for consumption

Insects have arrived. Where did you get out, Svidomo and pan-headed?

[Vend]

Quote: Alexey Polferov

1st category - Children of oligarchs; Not discussed
2nd Category - Specialists;
the rest at an expense, and rightly so - why does the state need parasites? They don’t produce anything, just give it and download the rights ...

It was you who beguiled the country, this is in Ukraine

[AVA77]

Well, you treat the rest, you can immediately see the hard worker. You have no options, sadness.

[Uprun]

I have a question, do tsipiushnikovs have a salary twice a month, well, is there an advance payment - a calculation, or one? Or maybe the size of the fee depends on the number of poured feces? Enlighten...

[AVA77]

Teach your wife to cook borscht, enlightener, fertilizer.

[sir.jonn]

3rd category office plankton, which includes IT specialists, financiers and other mass of "whistlings"

[Rustic]

3rd category office plankton, which includes IT people

Hey Hey hey! You do not confuse zhopy with a finger. IT people are techies. Yes, with a touch of elitism, because no one understands what they are doing there. But they still work with their hands, and do not shift papers. You also say that electricians are not needed. In the morning you will come to work where it will be dark, cold and damp. And all the equipment will be dead weight. And the poor IT specialist will run around and beg ... Well, can I at least start the generator so that at least the server works? But the plankton will be happy to sit and do nothing.

[sir.jonn]

Quote from Rustic

Hey Hey hey! You do not confuse zhopy with a finger. IT people are techies.

The problem is that under the definition of IT people fall all the system workers who change cartridges in printers and install Windu with firewood. And real techies there should be searched during the day with fire. I myself am going to the fishing vessel as part of the MKO crew and, being a non-core specialist, I taught pseudo techies how to work with marine satellite systems and elementary setup of local computer networks. Believe me, there are very few Specialists!

[Rustic]

Well, reinstall Windows or replace the thermal paste with a process and I can. Even in python I understand a little, and I can cut down a simple batch file of lines for 5. But I don't consider myself an IT specialist. Yes, advanced user. So for me, a specialist is really a specialist. And not just the one who has such a position, change cartridges in printers. For with the fact that everyone wants to be called something like a pozakovyrest, the same is familiar not by hearsay. Whatever they come up with, even stand, even fall.

[sir.jonn]

Quote from Rustic

How do they come up with something, even stand, even fall

That is the whole problem, the definition on paper does not mean its real significance with the bureaucratic component in reality. And the "Office" plankton, which is under the protectorate, seemingly justified exceptions, is inviolable in relation to, as you put it, electricians and other specialists who do not fall under the exemption from mobilization, but are really more needed in civilian life.

[opuonmed]

The main thing is that the Russian Federation would destroy the infrastructure of Ukraine, echelons of headquarters, etc., otherwise it will be a complete PPC!

[lucul]

The Ministry of Defense named another category of citizens exempted from mobilization

In the meantime:

TEL AVIV, September 22 - RIA Novosti. Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid has appealed to the leadership of the Israeli national air carrier El Al with a request to increase the number of flights to Russia, the state television and radio company reported to the KAN TV channel.
"The Prime Minister has asked for an immediate increase in the number of flights," political commentator Amihai Stein said on the air.
According to the correspondent, such actions are necessary to allow residents of the Russian Federation with Jewish roots to fly to Israel after the partial mobilization announced in the country.

A source :

https://ria.ru/20220922/izrail-1818606970.html

[AUL]

Meanwhile, the price of a ticket from Russia to Israel has increased to 5800 dollars from 850 - 900. This is from the Israeli airline El Al.

[alexmach]

It won't make money on its own :)

[Piramidon]

Quote from AUL

Meanwhile, the price of a ticket from Russia to Israel has increased to 5800 dollars from 850 - 900.

Well, these will not miss theirs. Demand creates supply.

[Petr_Koldunov]

What these runners don't know is that in Israel they'll get into the IDF almost a hundred yards - and the prospect of gunfights with the Palestinians or participation in the Syrian war is practically guaranteed. And not for some six months, but for THIRTY months!!!
And you can’t slip past the IDF. In Israel, the army cannot be bought off, but everyone, including women, must go through it.
They don't know this... but Israel knows :)) And it acts very cunningly... because replenishing your army with stupid Russian runners is just some kind of holiday :)))

[Last_Knight]

Without local citizenship they take to Tsakhal?

[alexmach]

These runners don't know that in Israel they will get into the IDF almost a hundred pounds

Well no. This is only for those who apply for Israeli citizenship, and for those who are of the right age.

and the prospect of skirmishes with the Palestinians or participation in the Syrian war is practically guaranteed to them

No, not guaranteed. In any army there are a bunch of different units, most of the IDF employees have not taken part in any skirmishes for a long time.

They don't know this... but Israel knows :))

Well, you should actually know. They weren't born yesterday. Especially those with Israeli roots.

And he acts very cunningly ... because replenishing his army with stupid Russian runners is just some kind of holiday :)))

Well, yes .. but the peak of this was in the 80-90s. But in general, those fleeing war are a valuable resource for everyone.

[zombirusrev]

Unless the United States forces Israel to start a war with someone .. Israel will need our "runners" ..

[tralflot1832]

Yes, let our 5th column go to Israel, where manna from heaven will fall on them from heaven. Some loafers were sheltered, and these loafers will be sheltered.

[41 REGION]

Quote: lucul

In the meantime:

Let them fly. The main thing is not to come back.

[your1970]

Quote: 41 REGION

Quote: lucul

In the meantime:

Let them fly. The main thing is not to come back.

Xxx ... and here a dozen shines for them - moreover, prisons ....

[Got it]

I already know cases when they come with a summons to those who did not serve, to those who served over 35 years old, etc., which is not surprising in general. Art. sergeant, senior shooter, 45 years old, I’ll go with a readiness, I’m not afraid, my grandfather beat the Nazis and I’ll go, I’m sure they will come, they already offered a contract. But one thing worries - how will they live: my wife, one-year-old son, two daughters of 14 years old ...? I support everyone, business, income, expenses are adjusted. They will kill - it will be difficult for them, but they will rebuild over time, tear off their legs - it will be fun for everyone! It’s scary to imagine, but everything gets under the comb, no matter what they say from the screen.

[Quote Lavrov]

Friend, yes, most of us on this site are in the same position as you.
And we fall under mobilization, and for the fact that we will be going through with families, and further down the list.
And we won't hide either. And yes, even realizing that we are closing the mistakes of the past 30 years, let's go for ourselves and for that guy.
It remains to be hoped that those who return will not let them make such mistakes as for all these years and the attitude between the remaining "us" and "those guys" will change dramatically.

[Optimus Prime]

The main thing is that our children should not be ashamed of us! In general, I want at least some kind of guarantee that the family will not disappear and the children, in which case, will not be left in hunger and cold.

[Nastia makarova]

they give a summons, but then they figure it out and let go, they pay 200 thousand a month, the family will live

[Nastia makarova]

Run to Armenia, not a patriot, that's all

[zombirusrev]

Links to the studio about cripples after the Second World War "Otherwise FFFtopka!" (C)
You are awarded the title of honorary chick... congratulations!!!

[yuriy55]

Turchak: deputies of the State Duma began to ask for Donbass

https://www.ridus.ru/news/390287

Four deputies from the "United Russia" decided to participate in the SVO

https://news.ru/vlast/turchak-chetyre-deputata-edinoj-rossii-gotovy-uchastvovat-v-svo/

Everything would be fine if not for:

The Federation Council clarified that the deputies of the State Duma and senators are not subject to mobilization

https://vz.ru/news/2022/9/21/1178628.html
*****
I assume that the term of office of the deputies of the State Duma can also be limited to two terms ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: yuriy55

Four deputies from the "United Russia" decided to participate in the SVO

Everything would be fine if not for:

The Federation Council clarified that the deputies of the State Duma and senators are not subject to mobilization

The main PR is to show that they are patriotic deputies

[zombirusrev]

Ukram will not be able to shoot at them, they have immunity! (kind of a joke)

[Uprun]

Why introduce turmoil into society ....., determine the specialists to whom the reservation applies, they don’t row everyone in the production of the military-industrial complex ...., it’s the same in the IT sphere, agriculture ....., mow down all tractor drivers - who bread will be sown and harvested ...., metallurgy, etc. Why such stuffing ...., do not make people nervous ....

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Employees are booked in our organization. PJSC TRK is a structural subdivision of Rosseti. Because it is connected both with the civilian and with the defense industry. Without electricity, skiff to everything

[zombirusrev]

They never took them from the military-industrial complex even in the 90s to Chechnya ..

[User_neydobniu]

But all the sick, we will call

Russians who are limitedly fit for military service are subject to partial mobilization, but "they will be called up last." This was announced at a press conference by the military commissar of the Irkutsk region Yevgeny Fuzhenko, Ircity reports.

We are talking about those who have category "B". These are those who did not serve in the army due to health problems.

But first of all, according to Fuzhenko, citizens who correspond to the first and second categories will be mobilized. Among them are soldiers, sailors, sergeants, warrant officers and midshipmen under 35, junior officers under 50, majors, lieutenant colonels under 55, colonels under 60 and senior officers under 65.

https://www.rbc.ru/politics/23/09/2022/632d61bc9a794761327e50e8

[lopvlad]

Quote from: User_neydobniu

however, "they will be the last to be called."

I’ll tell you a secret that everyone will be called up last, since the last turn is general mobilization. In general, the decree signed by Putin on September 21 allows mobilization from partial to general and is of an indefinite nature.

[User_neydobniu]

I will tell you a secret that they will call everyone last, since the last turn

Yes, cheers, "patriots" with the sons of majors will sit while asthmatics and diabetics fight for them ...

[mortido]

Another grin of capitalism zero spill. What’s next for military settlements, serfdom ... This means how officials and rich people will attach their relatives to specialties freed from the war, and you who didn’t go out with your snout die there ... Here it is the class division signs of a well-known situation. The shameful "exchange" of terrorists and mercenaries for Medvedchuk, and so on.
"All this is very consolidating society..."

[your1970]

Quote: Alexey Polferov

Quote: Wend

It was you who beguiled the country, this is in Ukraine

Yah? wait and see. As Vysotsky sang there: I no longer believe in the great mighty Russian people .....

A reference is possible - where does Vysotsky have this?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Alexey Polferov

I no longer believe in the great mighty Russian people.....

Well, here you put all your rotten essence here, panhead

[Two]

Where can I get on the list with a price list? Now there are completely familiar names will come across.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

concrete workers, loaders, diggers will go to war. but right. They don't even need to hand out guns. shovels will do. and highly qualified ones will be able to excuse themselves for the agreed contribution to their superiors

[Alexey Polferov]

And sons, gee. they are your wife la-la while you shush their property. go to war, demand part of the country's property, because YOU protect it with blood ... And the salary of this somo is for a first aid kit, clothes, weapons, etc. because, as it turned out, there is nothing, everything is stolen.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

that's who stole and steals sooner or later they will figure it out. I wish you the main thing, when not everything is good and smooth in the country, do not wave white flags on the swamp or red square

[igorka357]

Some kind of perversely sick, to be honest, I would advise you a serious psychiatrist.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

Are you already writing from the trench? or how in the picture he hid behind someone else's back? The psychiatrist won't help you. only veterinarian

[Alexey Polferov]

Quote: Alexey Polferov

who will provide them if you die?

Do you believe the government? Well, tomorrow it will change. There is no faith even in official papers, let alone words: the Minsk Treaty is an example of this.

[Alexey Polferov]

Quote: Alexey Polferov

1st category - Children of oligarchs; Not discussed
2nd Category - Specialists;

What don't you like? Parasites. In the trenches, it is necessary to bring favor to the motherland. 11 minuses but this is just the beginning. You thought you wouldn't be able to sit out. and PATRIOTS what are you fighting for? at 41, your grandfathers did not shed blood for the oligarchs. Demand guarantees for your loved ones, a share in the country's income. It is for the defense of the country that it mobilizes you, so let the country become yours for real, for defending your country and protecting the oligarchs are not the same thing.

[41 REGION]

Quote: Alexey Polferov

Mobilizes you

Let's mobilize. But you will not be mobilized

[Ludmila Myshkina]

Interestingly, Russian literacy in which school in Russia did you study?

[jaroff]

How easy it was to attach the St. George ribbon to a backpack or car. Write: if necessary, repeat. Draw Z,V wherever possible. And how it came to the point, all the media are only discussing all kinds of opportunities not to get to the recruiting station

[41 REGION]

Quote: zharyoff

And how it got to the point

Everyone has already passed the military registration and enlistment offices , everyone has come . It looks like you are not writing from Russia, since you don’t know

[jaroff]

I think you are not writing from Russia. Usually with instead of from they speak and write in Ukraine

[41 REGION]

Quote: zharyoff

Usually with instead of from they speak and write in Ukrainian

I won't argue, you know better.......

[Alexey Polferov]

Quote: Piramidon

The main PR is to show that they are patriotic deputies

They would like to go, but the law doesn’t tell them to, they really need the state, but you don’t, but YOU don’t ... I have a lot; You are not sorry.
Did you say mother again? But nothing, it will be right soon, 50 million. that is how much should be left in Russia, according to NATO, to serve and meet the needs of the owners.

[Alexey Polferov]

My response contains invalid text and is therefore blocked. How about without a mother? -2; thirty seconds 0:0 , stay with yourself and your hand ....

[igorka357]

Exactly, sexually perverted fantasies, you need to be treated urgently.

[Fon elia]

There are many kilometers of traffic jams at the borders. Great exodus. Propaganda trembles comrades. A shame. Tomorrow it will come around. It is necessary to reamine the detachments.)
And to be honest, it's a CIRCUS.
PEACE FOR EVERYONE. ✌️

[Ludmila Myshkina]

show me a photo. or a link to which border crossing points? I'll check the webcam. Or maybe they go to Ukraine?

[RED_ICE]

I thought the sons of officials and oligarchs

[Ludmila Myshkina]

and Aksyonov well done! he didn’t hide his son, but sent him to mobilization!

[IVZ]

To release or not to release on a formal basis is unfair. Not every. who is listed as someone else by profession, is really a specialist or at least a promising specialist. In addition, specialists are needed not only in the IT field. Another ill-conceived decision. Such decisions do not contribute, first of all, to the restoration of the authority of the power structures of the Russian Federation.

[Nikoha2010]

Good evening everyone! I am 50+. I've been somewhere and I know what it is. If necessary, we will all go. My wife also has a soldier. Leave loans to banks. The only problem is where to put the cat? Not sarcasm! So what to do?! Just don't panic!

[DenVB]

Quote from Nikoha2010

The only problem is where to put the cat?

"Either I take the cat with me, or you can shoot me right here."

[Nikoha2010]

Many people have a problem with humor here, hold on!

[Vdi73]

I'm more interested in how and with what media workers earned "armor" ???

[Moneron]

yes, half of IT people work remotely in foreign companies. here they will massively merge over the hill at any cost. they don’t need war at all. This is a generation of cosmopolitans, the tragic 90s, children are migratory butterflies of the world. sorry to lose them.