And what, the Italians have good tanks?

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Source: weaponsandwarfare.com

Yes, the title turned out to be a little provocative, although truthful. Stereotypes about Italy are a wagon and a small cart, and they are limited not only to the notorious pizza and pasta, but also include armored vehicles. There is an opinion that the Italians do not know how to build Tanks. Here, of course, it is no longer clear whether their tank building during the Second World War is to blame, or the purchase and production of foreign equipment in the post-war period. But the fact remains: many, having heard that Italy has its own national tank, are sincerely surprised.

Nevertheless, there is a tank, and, contrary to expectations, it is far from such rubbish as one might imagine. We are talking about the C1 "Ariete" - a car whose name can be translated as "Battering Ram" or "Baran", which in Italian is the same for military tools.



We have a lot of "Leopards", but no more


In order to dispel the myth that the Italians absolutely cannot make tanks, you need to roll back deeper into history, in the mid-50s. At that time, there was a rush in Europe around the program to create a single tank - an adventure that, repeated over and over again, never brought results. But then it was still the first serious attempt, so at first glance the idea looked very attractive. Germany (FRG), Italy and France decided to get involved in this.

Works were going on, projects appeared, discussions and tests were conducted. However, in the end, as was to be expected, the disagreements between the countries on what the tank should be, intensified so much that everyone went to make their own car with blackjack and other attributes. For the Germans, it was the Leopard 1, and for the French, it was the AMX-30.

Italy, of course, did not begin to make its own tank, and for a number of reasons of a financial, economic and political nature, it began to purchase these very Leopards 1 from Germany since 1970. In total, 200 units were bought, and then the Italians even received a license for the right to manufacture this tank at their OTO Melara plant, from whose shops 80 steel “cats” came out by the beginning of the 720s.

"Leopard-1" early series. Source: wikipedia.org
"Leopard-1" early series. Source: wikipedia.org

And production, albeit under a carbon copy, and under a license, is an experience. These are hundreds of engineers, technologists and other specialists trained not only in theory, but also honed their knowledge in practice. Without this human resource, as well as without the production base that was established thanks to the Leopard-1, it is quite difficult to build a new own tank. Well, okay, let's move on to the beginning of the 80s and our "Baran-rams".

In 1982, in Italy, they seriously began to resolve the issue, which had been required for a long time. The situation for the military and political leadership of the country was very ambiguous. It can be described something like this: we have 920 Leopards-1 and three hundred American M60s - a mighty horde, but morally obsolete so much that it will be problematic to use it in case of war. The Soviet Union at that time had quite a few T-64/72/80s of various modifications for which these Italian tanks were not a problem. And on the way, there were T-72B and T-80U at all - the most powerful armored serial vehicles in the Soviet lineup.

What to do? It would be most logical to turn again to the Germans who produced the Leopard-2. Buy or start production at home - and no problem. A fresh tank fleet is guaranteed. But then other circumstances intervened.

The fact is that even in the years of the release of the first Leopards, the Italians tried to sell them to third countries in order to make money on it, but the Germans said their firm “no” - since they were allowed to produce only for themselves, then produce for themselves. With the new Leopard 2, this could also happen again, and the supporters of creating their own national tank also did not weaken the onslaught, which ultimately led to the appearance of the C1 Ariete.

Requirements for the tank and its prototypes


Here, as they say, let's be realistic: the rejection of the Leopard-2 did not mean at all that the Italians would follow their own special path, so even the requirements for the new car were focused mainly on the German product. And in the full sense. In a very generalized form, they sounded like this: to make a tank no worse in terms of security, armament, mobility and operational properties than the Leopard-2.

All this was supposed to fit in a mass of up to 50 tons, which is almost 10% lower than that of the German prototype. How to deal with the booking, which with such a weight will be clearly worse than the Leo-2, is a rhetorical question. However, they still went beyond.

Nevertheless, in 1984, development nevertheless began, and the contractors were the time-tested and production companies OTO Melara and Iveco Fiat.

It was originally planned to produce five or six prototypes of the new tank. The first of them was ready in January 1987 and after about three months it became a kind of exhibition model-demonstrator of technologies - they showed it to everyone, from official dignitaries to the press. This is understandable: after all, the first post-war national tank of Italy, down with the "Germans" from the armored forces.

Almost a year later, the remaining prototypes of the C1 Ariete were completed, and their large-scale, almost one and a half year tests began: thousands of shots from cannons, thousands of kilometers traveled at training grounds, and everything else that is inherent in rigorous testing of military equipment.

One of the prototypes of the C1 "Ariete". Source: warspot.ru
One of the prototypes of the C1 "Ariete". Source: warspot.ru

The results were generally positive, so the military-political leadership, inspired by success, immediately planned the purchase of 700 units of this tank. But the reality did not match the expectations. Due to various kinds of problems, the timing of the production of the first batches of C1 Ariete constantly shifted, first to 1990-1991, then to 1993, and as a result, the first production tanks left the factory only in 1995.

The collapse of the USSR also intervened. In fact, the state that the NATO bloc considered its main adversary disappeared from the map of the world, so the military budgets of many Western countries were reduced to a minimum - why spend money when no more war is expected in the future? This also affected the production program C1 "Ariete", which was reduced from the original 700 units to two hundred. These two hundred tanks were produced between 1995 and 2002.

"Taranopard" some turned out


C1 "Ariete" is just the case when they did not reinvent the wheel and chose a completely typical and well-developed tank layout with the location of the control compartment in the front, the fighting compartment in the middle and the engine-transmission compartment in the aft.

Serial tank C1 "Ariete". Source: warspot.ru
Serial tank C1 "Ariete". Source: warspot.ru

The seating of the crew of four is also quite classic, “leopard print”: the driver’s seat is located on the right side of the hull, the gunner and commander are also on the right, but in the tower they sit one after another. The loader is given the entire left half of the tower, so as not to hamper his movements during combat work. By the way, at hand he has only 15 shots stacked in the rear of the tower. The remaining 27 are located to the left of the driver, and getting them during the battle is another task.

By the way, since we are talking about loading and shells, then, perhaps, for a start it is worth talking about the armament of the Italian "Taran". There were no surprises here, although it was predictable. The main armament of the tank is a smooth-bore 120-mm gun with a length of 44 calibers. There was a lot of talk about the fact that this is a branded product of OTO Melara, but in fact the German origin of the gun was not hidden in any way. This is the same "Rheinmetal" L44 gun from the Leopard-2 tank. And the shells, both cumulative and feathered sub-caliber, are also German for her.

But this is not bad, but even good (from the point of view of Italians, of course). There is no need to invent and develop anything - all advanced German-made ammunition is already at hand. And this seriously increases the firepower of the C1 Ariete, since the DM43 sub-caliber shells - products of not the first freshness - pierced about 560 mm of steel armor and could become a problem for Soviet armored vehicles, inherited by the newly formed states after the collapse of the USSR. And this is not to mention the later developments in "shell building".

On the machine-gun part of the tank's arsenal, usually few people dwell in detail, so we will not break the tradition either. In this case, it consists of two German 7,62 mm MG-3 machine guns, one of which is paired with a cannon, and the second is the basis of an anti-aircraft machine gun installation above the commander's hatch in the turret roof.

Source: vk.com

Finishing the story about the weapons of the C1 "Arieta", one cannot ignore its fire control system, since it is not enough to have a penetrating projectile, they also need to hit the target. It was developed by the Italian company Officine Galileo, which in the recent past managed to be noted in the Syrian war: then tanks with the TURMS-T sighting and observation system were seen in the armored units of the army of President Bashar al-Assad. So this is from Italy.

The C1 Ariete gunner has the following equipment at his disposal. Two optical sights - one backup, and the second main, monocular, with a tenfold increase. A laser rangefinder that is capable of measuring ranges up to nine kilometers, but neither the ballistics of the projectiles nor the ballistic computer allows more than four. All this is complemented by the VTG-120 thermal imaging sight-surveillance device, which provides reliable identification of targets in difficult visibility conditions at a distance of up to one and a half kilometers.

As for the commander, everything is quite standard for Western tanks. A panoramic observation device with a night vision channel and a built-in rangefinder, as well as a backup system that allows the commander to display an image from the gunner's thermal imaging sight. There is not much to say here, because this is exactly what the commander’s sighting and observation system should look like to implement combat work in the “hunter-shooter” style, when one detects a target and gives target designation, and the second hits it. At this point, it’s time for us to think that the same solutions are needed on our, Russian tanks.

The "brain" of the entire fire control system of the Italian tank is a digital ballistic computer built on the basis of the 8086 processor and the 8087 coprocessor from Intel. Yes, this is not a Core i9 or powerful "snapdragons" in smartphones, but the chips do their job with a bang. By processing continuously incoming data from a laser rangefinder and a variety of sensors, including the measurement of the temperature of powder charges, wind speed and direction, tank roll, target angular velocity, etc., the ballistic computer provides the necessary corrections for firing in real time, ensuring accurate aiming of the gun at the target.

Source: armyrecognition.com

Now for the hull and turret. Looking at the hull of the tank, the feeling that we have a disguised "Leopard-2" in front of us is slightly reduced. Yes, there are similar outlines along the sides and stern, but the frontal part still has a slight difference from the German. If the German tank as a whole very much resembles a chisel with a stepped slope of the lower armor plate, then the Italian immediately catches the eye with a solid and large lower frontal armor plate in height. From the available data, we can say that this is a welded structure using exclusively steel armor plates, which form the basis in the side and aft projections, as well as the roof and bottom. There is nothing unusual in this - the usual differentiation of armor, when priority in durability and mass of protection is given to the frontal part, as the most susceptible to shelling.

The tower is that structural element of the C1 Ariete, which, in appearance, has the least number of similarities with the Leopard-2. And indeed, if the frontal part of the turret of a German tank is made almost vertical with an inclination from the axis of the gun, then in the Italian version the forehead has an impressive double inclination. But it is correct: in this way, it is possible to significantly increase the efficiency of the external frontal armor plates and the combined filler behind them. By the way, due to the large dimensions of the tower for protection in the heading angles, its sides had to be equipped with niches for inserts of combined armor, which, in general, is typical for all Western tanks - both Leopards-2 and Abramsov, and "Leclerc"

Source: forum.warthunder.com

As for the reservation, it should be noted that the Italian designers failed to meet the 50 tons. Although there is nothing surprising in this, since the higher the resistance of the armor, the higher its mass, even with the use of the most modern materials. As a result, the tank weighs 54 tons, that is, it fits in the format of its German counterpart.

There are only guesses about what is included in the defense of C1 "Ariete". There are versions that the combined armor of the Italian tank includes ceramics and Kevlar. But, given the reports of the designers of the machine about durability equal to the Leopard-2A4 and M1A1 Abrams, and also taking into account the mass, one can speak with some certainty in favor of heaps of "reflective" sheets (steel sheet + rubber-like material layer + sheet steel) and high-hard steel inserts.

It was this version of the combined armor that was extremely popular in those years when the C1 Ariete was at the design stages. But these are just guesses. As a matter of fact, as well as assumptions about the equivalents of the protection of this tank. If we average all the "testimonies" given by various authors, as well as manufacturers, we can talk about 500-600 mm against sub-caliber projectiles and about 800 mm against cumulative ammunition. At the same time, we must not forget that the tank can be equipped with dynamic protection, which dramatically increases these indicators.

C1 "Ariete" in Iraq. Source: war-book.ru
C1 "Ariete" in Iraq. Source: war-book.ru

The undercarriage of the C1 "Ariete", consisting of seven road wheels on board with a torsion bar suspension, is almost completely made in the image and likeness of a German tank. Even the tracks for this machine were produced under a purchased license from the German company Diehl. The solution is quite clear. This affects both the general copying of the “leopard” design, and the worthy characteristics of the German chassis, which is rightfully considered one of the best in the world and is able not only to withstand high shock loads, but also to ensure smooth running at high speed.

And the speed characteristics there are far from the worst. A 1-horsepower Iveco V-300 MTCA diesel engine is installed in the engine compartment of the tank. Paired with it is an automatic hydromechanical transmission LSG 12. This tandem provides a maximum speed of up to 3000–60 km/h and acceleration from standstill to 65 km/h in 30 seconds, which is very, very good for a 6-ton tank.

What's wrong with him now?


The tank turned out to be quite decent in most respects. Yes, security, given its relative freshness, is somewhat behind competitors such as the Leopard-2A5 and M1A2 Abrams, but to some extent this can be compensated by the installation of dynamic protection. As for the firepower and sighting system, they are, as they say, on the level. The ability to use modern German shells, coupled with an automated fire control system, makes this tank a serious threat on the battlefield. Yes, here is such an Italian with German roots.

Of the two hundred tanks produced, 164 units were used to equip four tank regiments. Two of them were deployed near the border with Slovenia, and one - in the Campania region, in southern Italy. The rest of the combat vehicles were in storage.

To fight them, fortunately, or unfortunately, failed. Six vehicles were sent to Iraq, but did not take part in the hostilities.

Over time, the staff of C1 "Ariete" has been significantly reduced. According to sources, about thirty tanks of this model remained in active combat service. And this despite the fact that Italy has no other modern tanks in service. Most of the Ariete were transferred to the reserve for storage.

Nevertheless, already this year, work began on the modernization of this tank, which is designed to increase the combat capabilities of the vehicle. As part of the work, he will receive improved components of the fire control system, updated ammunition and a 1500-horsepower diesel engine. Whether these measures will affect all two hundred tanks or be limited to those that are currently in service is not yet specified, but it should be noted that the C1 Ariete itself turned out to be a fairly balanced and modern tank, so its refinement is far from “saving an obsolete rubbish."
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  1. +9
    26 September 2022 05: 45
    Wow ... interesting, Italian tank, a topic little discussed. Write more about Italian armored vehicles
    1. +3
      26 September 2022 06: 06
      Write more about Italian armored vehicles

      Support!
    2. +7
      26 September 2022 06: 17
      For example, the armored car Lynx, aka Iveco LMV. Wheeled tank Centauro, which Taburetkin so wanted to buy.
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 07: 30
        It would be interesting to read, but with a lot of performance characteristics smile
    3. 0
      4 December 2022 15: 52
      Looks like abrams at the minimum, a kind of half-knee
  2. +2
    26 September 2022 05: 48
    The article as a whole is interesting, but too "smeared". There are too many lyrics, it seems that the author was chasing the volume of publication.
    And the fact that the Italians make tanks on their own is not surprising. There is a design and industrial potential for this in Italy.
  3. +1
    26 September 2022 06: 01
    Knowing the western tendency to make huge armored sheds, 54 tons allow us to consider the armor to be rather mediocre, for sure for the present time.
  4. -1
    26 September 2022 06: 03
    Quote: Tucan
    The design and industrial potential for this in Italy is available

    One industrial potential in this business is not enough. The development and production of tanks is an expensive undertaking and not everyone can do it. For example, in Britain, which has a long tradition in tank building, they are still thinking whether to continue further development of their Challenger or simply buy German Leopards without wasting their budget ...

    For the article, definitely a plus!
  5. -5
    26 September 2022 06: 25
    An interesting car, albeit obviously outdated. In general, although I am interested in VUS and mechanized water T-72 and MBT, I increasingly come to the conclusion that the "golden" days of MBT have already passed. Until there are some radical changes in the protection of tanks, allowing them to freely operate in closed theaters, tanks will remain an easy target. With all my love for these powerful machines.
    1. +4
      26 September 2022 10: 15
      Yes, not very outdated, rather not modified, but on the other hand, why is it worse than the conditional t-72-b3 with such and such an SLA and the ability to use modern German ammunition?
  6. -2
    26 September 2022 07: 13
    in a German tank, it generally looks very much like a chisel with a stepped slope of the lower armor plate

    How necessary is the need?
    Differentiated booking? what
    There is a place with a minimum probability of defeat. But the complexity in production, manufacturability increases. It can be said that it is insignificant, but after all, if you dig, you can find such "flaws", and all this is "not good".
  7. 0
    26 September 2022 08: 51
    a question for tank experts, I didn’t see much that this topic was somehow discussed, what is the optimal location of mech-water in a tank? and what are the advantages and disadvantages of placing in the center of the car or on the side (from the left or from the right), for some reason, after the T-62, ours began to plant mech-water in the center, so did the Americans, you can also include the British, while the rest are placed with side, German Leopard, French Leclerc, Japanese, Korean, the same Italians, even the Chinese and Indians place fur-water from the side in their tanks, not to mention the Israelis, but with these it’s clear, they have an engine in front ....
    1. +3
      26 September 2022 13: 10
      Quote: 1984
      what is the optimal arrangement of mech-water in the tank?
      The same question was asked. For example, it is not clear to me why the drivers of the Leopards were seated on the right, although in the country of manufacture of this tank (Germany), right-hand traffic is accepted for transport and the driver sits on the left of the car. But in Japan it’s the other way around: a country with left-hand traffic (all cars are right-hand drive), and in their tank the mechanic driver sits on the left:
      Type-74

      Type-10
      Quote: 1984
      for some reason, after the t-62, ours began to plant mech-water in the center
      This happened with the T-64. I met the opinion that the T-64 is not a development of a medium tank, which was increased in protection and equipped with a more powerful weapon, but a lighter version of a heavy tank. Then many things become clear. For example, lightweight, in favor of the main booking chassis. And the location of the driver - take a look at the shape of the nose of the IS-3 tank and the ones following it, up to the T-10 (the last of the heavy ones):
      Is-3

      Is-7

      I think (but not necessarily the case) that the roots of the location of our drivers in the center come from here (although the shape of the bow of the tank has changed, but the driver’s seat was left in the usual place for heavy tanks)
      1. +2
        26 September 2022 14: 21
        Quote: Bad_gr
        For example, I don’t understand why the Leopards had drivers on the right,

        Perhaps, perhaps, for easy access to the front ammo rack for the loader.
        Quote: Bad_gr
        and in their tank the mechanic driver sits on the left:
        Type-74
        And here the hull is directly licked from the T-55, there are not even support rollers.

        Quote: Bad_gr
        I met the opinion that the T-64 is not a development of a medium tank, which was increased in protection and equipped with a more powerful weapon, but a lighter version of a heavy tank.
        More often I met the opposite opinion that they say it’s a pity that they stopped the strands on the T-10, that the main tanks would have turned out at their base with less cost.
        1. +1
          26 September 2022 15: 07
          Quote: Bad_gr
          I don’t understand why the Leopards had drivers on the right
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Perhaps, perhaps, for easy access to the front ammo rack for the loader.

          Our T-54-55-62 has a similar ammunition rack to the right of the driver - and the loader has no problems when working with these ammunition racks due to their location.
          And hardly, with the location of the driver they danced from the conveniences of the loader.
          1. +1
            26 September 2022 15: 32
            Quote: Bad_gr
            Our T-54-55-62 has a similar ammunition rack to the right of the driver - and the loader has no problems when working with these ammunition racks due to their location.

            Well, right, because the loader is on the right! Something you didn't think. laughing

            Quote: Bad_gr
            And hardly, with the location of the driver they danced from the conveniences of the loader.
            The Germans are famous masters of ergonomics, firstly, and secondly, the rate of fire of tank guns in the German school occupied a very important place, but driving according to traffic rules is not. Well, it is significant that as soon as they got rid of the radio operator-gunner on the PzKpfV-4-5-6, they immediately transplanted the driver.
            By the way, I’m just surprised by the location of our turrets, because the loader had to, and on the T-62 he has to, throw a shell with his left, usually weaker, hand.
        2. +2
          26 September 2022 17: 06
          And I read that at the end of the 50s they decided to abandon heavy tanks. Morozov then proposed the concept of "a heavy tank in the mass and dimensions of a medium one", issuing the T-64. At about the same time (60s), the West was considering the concept of MBT (the MBT-70 program from which the Leo-1 and Abrams M1 with a 105 mm gun grew). We can say that the idea of ​​MBT was in the air, but the approaches were different. The West essentially made the MBT in the image and likeness of heavy tanks, and the USSR held on to Morozov's idea for a long time.
          1. +3
            26 September 2022 17: 44
            Quote: dzvero
            Morozov then proposed the concept of "a heavy tank in the mass and dimensions of a medium", issuing the T-64.

            Specifically, the T-64 was created precisely as a medium one, first under a 100 mm rifled gun, then under a 115 mm smooth barrel - the first serial, and only then under 125 mm.
            Quote: dzvero
            the MVT-70 program from which Leo-1 grew
            Leo 2!

            Quote: dzvero
            The West essentially made MBT in the image and likeness of heavy tanks
            You can’t argue with that.
            1. +2
              26 September 2022 18: 30
              Specifically, the T-64 was created precisely as a medium

              Yes, but grew into the first Soviet MBT. I don't know who "pushed" Morozov with the idea; I fully admit that the idea is my own, and infa from technical intelligence "helped" to come up with the proposal.
              Leo 2!

              Oops, yes sad
      2. 0
        26 September 2022 20: 17
        Morozov never designed heavy tanks. Lightening a heavy tank to the MBT level is the T-80, a product of the Leningrad school. Morozov's previous breakthrough vehicle was the Su-100, which is Su only by index, and by design a tank with a rear-mounted BO and a front MTO, and so there the driver was generally sitting in the tower, and the product, with the protection of the T-54, weighed only 24 tons.
        1. Alf
          0
          26 September 2022 21: 29
          Quote: Potter
          Morozov's previous breakthrough vehicle is the Su-100, which is Su only by index, but by design a tank with a rear BO and a front MTO,

          Do you mean this?

          But this is SU-101.
        2. +3
          26 September 2022 23: 12
          Quote: Potter
          Morozov never designed heavy tanks. Lightening a heavy tank to the MBT level is the T-80, a product of the Leningrad school.

          God be with you! Take an interest in the history of the issue. The T-80 (like the T-72) "grew" from the T-64A. In June 1969, a resolution of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the Council of Ministers was issued on the creation of a gas turbine power plant for the T-64 tank. The organization of serial production of the T-64 tank with a gas turbine engine was envisaged at the LKZ. The GTD-3L engine with a power of 800 hp was prepared. Later it was replaced by the GTD-1000T with a capacity of 1000 hp. With. NPO named after V.Ya.Klimov. The first prototype "Object 219 sp.1" copied the T-64, but the suspension failed during the tests. The new prototype "Object 219" with a new running gear and a new turret later became the T-80. Well, the Nizhny Tagil "simplified", "mobilization" version of the T-64A for the V-45 diesel engine with a power of 730 hp. with a new chassis, hull, turret and its own automatic loader - "Object 172" later became the T-72 Well, something like this hi
    2. 0
      27 September 2022 15: 06
      I am not a mechanic driver or a tanker, I rode a full tank simulator only once, on Victory Day 18, or 19. So, there is nothing, nothing at all, in the embrasure of the driver. You rest your forehead against such an overlay and before your eyes there is a small window, as if in a door, for mail from films. And you can see the road only in front, on a small stretch and that's it.
      PS> It was surprising for me to discover that tanks obey the dispatcher like aviation.
  8. 0
    26 September 2022 08: 52
    To fight them, fortunately, or unfortunately, failed. Six vehicles were sent to Iraq, but did not take part in the hostilities.
    Unfortunately, not fortunately. Only a test in combat will show what these design decisions are worth. Respect to the author.
  9. +4
    26 September 2022 10: 11
    SLA, hull, engine and transmission of their own design, and this is already very good, few in the world can do this at all.
    1. 0
      26 September 2022 14: 09
      I think there is a lot of English there. Chieftain, Challenger and others. Well, what does it look like.
      1. +1
        26 September 2022 14: 17
        Quote: megavolt823
        I think there is a lot of English there. Chieftain, Challenger and others. Well, what does it look like.

        Well, yes, the tower was certainly torn off the Challenger
        1. 0
          27 September 2022 00: 07
          And there are 2 ways. Abrams and English homemade products. No other way.
        2. 0
          27 September 2022 00: 09
          Jews communed a lot from the USSR. And the original tank. And Kalash. Well hodovka exactly.
        3. 0
          27 September 2022 00: 13
          Well, well done. Managed to adapt. Under the tasks and theater of application. Italy, if only NATO did not suffer.
  10. +3
    26 September 2022 10: 50
    A tank created in the mid-80s ... well, it can't be bad.
    The Italians made a normal tank. Quite on the level.
    Although in order to do bad things in Europe in the 80s, you have to try.
    European cooperation made it possible to make decent products. And a good German tank was chosen as a role model.
  11. +5
    26 September 2022 11: 39
    I thank the author for an impartial article. A weapon, like any technology, must be judged by its technical characteristics, and not by the nation that produces it. As for protection, Aries has to be compared with contemporaries; at the time of its design, the armor was at the level of other implementations. However, the delay in commissioning meant that protection was no longer adequate. A problem that could have been solved with additional armor and an increase in engine power, but which was not solved due to lack of budget. However, analyzing the chariot technically, I must say that the chariot of Aries has some shortcomings, one of which cannot be eliminated. The ARIETE battle tank is armed with a 120/44 gun firing fuel-cased ammunition (except for the bottom, which is made of steel). This ammunition is stowed inside the turret and hull in the same order as on the LEOPARD 1. The ram carries 42 rounds, 15 ready rounds are stored vertically on the left side of the main gun's breech. The remaining 27 are stacked in a rack on the hull to the left of the control station. All transported personnel are not in protected places. Western tanks of the same generation as OWEN (M-1 ABRAMS - photo on the right -, LEOPARD 2, LECLERC), using the same ammunition model, are equipped with armored tanks located aft inside the turret and separated from the rest of the environment by sliding bulkheads , opening only for the time required for the shot. Another problem with the ram, the case of the 120th ammunition is made of a cellulose-based compound coated with a thin layer of protective paint: as tests have shown, this coating starts to burn on contact with a heated metal case at a temperature of about 240 ° C.
    The ARIETE cartridge case collection basket, due to its shape and size, does not guarantee the safe holding of bottoms that have fallen into it (eyewitnesses have witnessed a second shot from 120/44, flying out of the said basket, which, having hit the previous one, he retained enough kinetic energy to climb over through the collector wall). Please note that at the time of ejection from the chamber, the sleeve has a temperature of about 400 ° C. Indeed, in 2006
    An accident occurred that cost the life of a crew member. The shank of the bottom, which jumped out of the collection basket, caught on the sleeve of one of the 4 shots, which, without any protection, were under the oscillating mass of the 120/44 gun, causing a fire. This has now been corrected by redesigning the header basket, in the hope that there will be no surprises in the future. Finally, the hatch accessible to the pilot should also be conceived as an emergency exit operated instinctively, quickly and safely, but, unfortunately, this is not the case.
    1. +3
      26 September 2022 11: 50
      I forgot this year, we finally launched the modernization of 125 ram cars. A more powerful engine, new armor, a new ballistic computer, new optics (shared with Centaur 2) and, finally, new wider tracks will be installed. However, rounds stored inside the turret are not placed in protected tanks and are therefore vulnerable to shots, eventually the turret and gun will be left with hydraulic interlocks limiting their performance.
      1. 0
        26 September 2022 14: 31
        The turret would have to be re-arranged to add a niche for shells with knockout panels, and this is a rather expensive procedure, fraught with various difficulties, up to increasing the turret ring, it is possible that this is not economically justified.
        1. +2
          26 September 2022 14: 59
          The roots of this tank come from the German ones, and they did the same (the main ammo rack is to the left of the driver)

          View from the motor side
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            28 September 2022 12: 16
            Shots in the hull are protected in the same way.
            Photo taken from Ferreamole website
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              28 September 2022 12: 19
              The problem is that ready-to-use cartridges are stored in an unprotected rack at the base of the turret. I hope you understand from the diagram.
    2. +2
      26 September 2022 13: 00
      Thanks for the interesting information! In general, Ariete is very similar to the Challenger 2. But the Italian tank, in my opinion, is the most beautiful, as far as the tank can be said) Still, the Italians know a lot about wine and design.
      But I would not recommend climbing into Russia on it, a duel with a more mobile and quick-firing T-72/90 Ariete is unlikely to win. Although the sighting system of the Italian will be better.
      1. +2
        26 September 2022 14: 22
        Quote: Jager
        But I would not recommend climbing into Russia on it, a duel with a more mobile and quick-firing T-72/90 Ariete is unlikely to win. Although the sighting system of the Italian will be better.

        Some strange thought. It is not easy for the Italians to "climb into Russia" in one face, they are far away. It doesn’t make much sense to deliver to the demilitarization zone, the tank is not massive. It will be a white elephant.

        Otherwise, the usual leklerkoyd is not the latest versions. I would not talk about the superiority of the T-72B3 over this one.
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          27 September 2022 19: 04
          . It is not easy for the Italians to "climb into Russia" in one face, they are far away. It doesn’t make much sense to deliver to the demilitarization zone, the tank is not massive. It will be a white elephant.

          Well, tell this to those dozens of Western piece samples. I am sure that the "Ariete" will also fall under the scope of our anti-tank systems or RPGs (God forbid, of course). Italy is a member of NATO and the Americans will pour into Ukraine everything that shoots. Nobody will ask the Italians. As Uncle Sam orders, they will do it.
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            27 September 2022 19: 21
            Quote: Jager
            As Uncle Sam orders, they will do it.

            Exactly. And if there is a go-ahead, then Abramov and Leo are more than enough in storage. At the expense of piece samples, of course, nothing can be ruled out, but it seems that deliveries have already become more systematic.
      2. +1
        28 September 2022 12: 28
        "Aries" was supposed to take part in the "Tank Biathlon" in 2014. The recruitment of crews was already underway in the 132nd tank regiment of the Ariete brigade. 4 or 5 tanks have already been delivered to Oto Melara for preparation. But the Crimean issue blocked everything. As for Ukraine, I think you will never see these floats in Ukraine. In reality, if the West were supplying wagons for Ukrainians, in my opinion, these would be M60 (even if there is a problem of transporting them in sufficient quantities), Leopard 1 (there are still many leopards 1, but they need major repairs and I don’t know how many there was) or maybe, maybe Leopard 2.
  12. -1
    26 September 2022 12: 02
    The problem is not in the tank itself, but in tank building in general. You need to rivet them and restore them faster than the enemy knocks them out or breaks. But Western tanks have big problems with this. In a high-intensity conflict, a tank lives for a week or two. And construction by the slipway method takes 3 years. Our T-72 is assembled on the assembly line in 9 months. Although the T-90M is already 30.
    1. +2
      26 September 2022 13: 03
      Are you laughing? 30 months for a tank? We rivet diesel locomotives like hot cakes. And the tank will be inherently simpler, with the exception of the gun. Moreover, the T-90 has a lot from the same T-72.
      By the way, when I looked at the photo of the captured T-90, I experienced some kind of deja vu - painfully familiar equipment design compared to locomotives, I won’t go into details, otherwise Comrade Major is on the alert. laughing
  13. -1
    26 September 2022 12: 27
    It is a pity that the Italian school of tank building did not begin to improve the experience gained in the production of tanks based on the C1 "Ariete", a rather interesting machine turned out with a characteristic of all Italian features. Wheeled Italian tanks are certainly good, but you should not forget the classics. An interesting story about the Italian school of tank building, many thanks to the author for the informative content. Hope for the next one... good drinks wink
    1. 0
      26 September 2022 13: 02
      It is becoming more and more difficult to develop armored vehicles with parameters that would greatly exceed the previous one. Yes, Italy doesn’t really need it - the market has long been divided between Americans, Germans and Russians. True, the Koreans are actively trying to get in there, but so far without much success. The British don't know what to do with their Challenger.
      All sorts of Pakistani-Indians and other Chinese produce, in fact, a hodgepodge of already known machines.
      1. -4
        26 September 2022 13: 31
        From a technical point of view, Italian design thought, as well as culinary art, has always been distinguished by its originality. feel
        1. +2
          26 September 2022 13: 50
          Now, if you want to start a war in Italy, start discussing how traditional dishes are prepared. Just ask in Rome for carbonara cream and you'll be attacked laughing
          1. -1
            26 September 2022 14: 57
            Now, if you want to start a war in Italy, start discussing how traditional dishes are prepared. Just ask in Rome for carbonara cream and you will be attacked with a laughing
            There are more humane ways, like brushing your boots and letting them dry, and carbonara cream for dessert. good drinks
          2. 0
            27 September 2022 18: 52
            I will not say anything about pizza with pineapples, otherwise the Italians will bite me laughing
            1. +2
              28 September 2022 12: 05
              You understand the concept very well. Such a request would be extremely dangerous. good laughing
      2. 0
        26 September 2022 14: 34
        The contract with Poland and the joint project of the Turkish tank based on the K2 is a great success for the Koreans.
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          27 September 2022 19: 10
          The contract is not yet a real machine. And the Turks have already seized grief.
  14. 0
    26 September 2022 13: 46
    The problem is not to design tanks or planes or build a prototype. The real problem is in mass production. When you are designing, you must already have confidence that your product will be bought in large quantities, otherwise the costs will become prohibitive.
    1. +1
      26 September 2022 14: 36
      In addition, Rheinmetall technical solutions are used on Arieta, which also seems to limit the export potential of the development, I don’t think that leopards need competitors.
      1. 0
        27 September 2022 18: 55
        Ariete has not been modernized for a long time, he is not a competitor to the latest modifications of the Leopard.
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          27 September 2022 20: 09
          I mean, it was not even offered on the foreign market, apparently at a cost, taking into account deductions to Rheinmetall, it was expensive and pointless for the buyer, although it is possible that the market was already oversaturated after the end of the Cold War.
  15. 0
    26 September 2022 21: 27
    Why do Italians need tanks? And the Spaniards?? What about the Portuguese?
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    26 September 2022 23: 43
    Italian modern tank Dear sir, I want to thank you for this textbook article. I have not read anything better in our area. am
  17. 0
    27 September 2022 13: 35
    I liked the article.
    But I am also of the opinion that Italy has no one to fight for its sovereignty. The armed forces are needed, but the tanks in them ...... probably not. would focus on wheeled armored combat vehicles.
  18. 0
    27 September 2022 16: 12
    A good clone of the Leopard. Any upgrade will increase the weight.
  19. 0
    1 October 2022 13: 27
    From the available data, we can say that this is a welded structure using exclusively steel armor plates, which form the basis in the side and aft projections, as well as the roof and bottom. There is nothing unusual in this - the usual differentiation of armor, when priority in durability and mass of protection is given to the frontal part, as the most susceptible to shelling.
    Where is the differentiation here? All steel.
  20. 0
    5 November 2022 18: 37
    Italians have only Roano and Albina Pver and Ricky e Believe, only good music (I was in Italy and I didn’t like pizza and spaghetti)
  21. 0
    4 December 2022 16: 17
    Italy is a MOUNTAIN country, with not very wide roads with sharp turns, slopes .... Therefore, tanks have always had a secondary attitude - well, they have nowhere to roll around Italy ....