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Captured Ukrainian attack aircraft told how he was trained in a British training camp

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Captured Ukrainian attack aircraft told how he was trained in a British training camp

Ukrainian attack aircraft Vladimir Tregubenko was captured by soldiers of the 42nd Guards Motorized Rifle Division of the Russian Armed Forces near Maryinka. Under interrogation, he told how he ended up in the ranks of the APU and told about training in a British training camp somewhere near Oxford, as he put it: "Where the children of rich people study." A video with the interrogation of a prisoner of war was published in his public reporter Alexander Sladkov.


Straying from Russian into Ukrainian, the prisoner said that he had joined the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the first days of mobilization from the Boryspil district of the Kyiv region, where he worked as a junior storekeeper. At the military registration and enlistment office, he was offered to go to Britain to study, to which Vladimir willingly agreed, as he explained, because "he had never been behind the cordon."

Initially, a group of 199 conscripts was transported to Zhytomyr, from there by bus to Poland and then by civilian plane to the UK. Upon arrival, the recruits were transferred to a military base, whose name Tregubenko said he did not know.

The instructors spoke English, all communication took place using sign language, each cadet was assigned a number by which they were identified. The training course for future fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine took 21 days. All this time, the cadets were engaged in assembling and disassembling, zeroing in the AK-47 assault rifle (each was given 500 rounds of ammunition), studied sapper business, and trained for three days to storm city buildings. british weapon studied only in theory - according to schemes and instructions.

As a result of Western training, Tregubenko said that he only learned how to assemble and disassemble a Soviet machine gun and shoot from it. Why it was necessary to go to England for this, he himself does not understand. Or simply lying about what the preparation was.

Vladimir was not impressed by the fulfilled dream of a simple Ukrainian to visit abroad. For the duration of the training, their phones were confiscated, they were strictly forbidden to communicate with local personnel, and they were even forbidden to look in the direction of women under the threat of prison.

Upon arrival in Ukraine, the fighters were told that they were going to replace the unit operating in the frontline zone. The fact that as a result the recruits were at the forefront, Vladimir realized only when he was captured.

We heard someone shouting "Surrender!". We looked out of the trenches, it turned out that we were already surrounded. In the neighboring trenches, they began to shoot back, but they were immediately bombarded with grenades. I have already begun to say goodbye to life, but everything turned out to be wrong - they only searched us, no one beat us, fed us and gave us tea

- Vladimir told about the end of his short combat experience.

The unlucky Ukrainian fighter, who was trained at a military base in the UK, spent about a day at the front line. He was taken prisoner without firing a single shot. Again, in his own words. Now he claims that, after talking with our fighters, he “understood your truth.”

Well, not a chef...

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  1. Silver99
    Silver99 22 September 2022 18: 04
    +19
    I wouldn’t believe the stories of this butt ((((The AK-47, even among Somali pirates, is already being removed from service, They are preparing them there for a sabotage case, by the way, British psychologists teach how to behave during interrogations in case of captivity, in his answers one can read a manual from MI -6.
    1. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 22 September 2022 18: 16
      +7
      Anything can be ... they are all captured, pretending to be innocent sheep.
    2. Cheshire
      Cheshire 22 September 2022 18: 19
      +1
      Quote from Silver99
      I would not believe the stories of this ass ((((

      And I believe, I believed from the words that it was forbidden to look at women. In their army there, you can only look at men, it seems to be true ....
      Maybe he's missing something?
      1. fiv
        fiv 22 September 2022 18: 30
        +2
        Maybe they were there, they were taught to look at men?
        1. Machito
          Machito 22 September 2022 19: 55
          +2
          Quote: fiv
          Maybe they were there, they were taught to look at men?

          Yeah, the carving was torn off during the rite of passage.
    3. Beck69
      Beck69 23 September 2022 07: 08
      0
      Even my wife knows how to disassemble and assemble a Kalashnikov assault rifle without being in England. "Eggs in his door frame," and it will be clear what they were preparing for.
    4. Lepsik
      Lepsik 23 September 2022 07: 17
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    5. Fitter65
      Fitter65 23 September 2022 17: 48
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      Quote from Silver99
      I wouldn’t believe the stories of this butt ((((The AK-47, even among Somali pirates, is already being removed from service, They are preparing them there for a sabotage case, by the way, British psychologists teach how to behave during interrogations in case of captivity, in his answers one can read a manual from MI -6.

      So this is just the first "trained at Oxford" that fell into our hands. And at the expense of the manuals, if in the early years of Soviet Power the Cheka with the British did not spin the "Operation Trust" and the like badly, then surely the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those Chekists will not cut through at once the bullshit that this fraer is driving (sorry for my English ) laughing . This is purely a drain for the public, and not ours. Well, what a fool to drive, Ak-47, he learned to disassemble for three weeks, and he didn’t say a word about the fact that he learned to assemble it or not. laughing
  2. Alexga
    Alexga 22 September 2022 18: 07
    +1
    If everything is as this "hero" tells, the question arises that the small-shaven people have nowhere to put their money. So let it be better to help poor countries. Although they have their own printing press for pounds, they can litter with money.
  3. antivirus
    antivirus 22 September 2022 18: 08
    +4
    Cook. Cook. Cook.
    This is the chef.
    Doesn't know anything. For world peace.
    Supporter of the Party of Regions and Peace with Donbass
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 22 September 2022 19: 50
      +1
      One word is lying. In vain they are taken prisoner.
  4. azkolt
    azkolt 22 September 2022 18: 09
    +3
    Quote from Silver99
    I wouldn’t believe the stories of this butt ((((The AK-47, even among Somali pirates, is already being removed from service, They are preparing them there for a sabotage case, by the way, British psychologists teach how to behave during interrogations in case of captivity, in his answers one can read a manual from MI -6.

    To this "interview" I would add hundreds of stories from both prisoners and vushniks who got in touch with dill journalists that an attack on Kherson was impossible, that everything was very bad there. no ammunition, not enough people, and so on!
  5. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 22 September 2022 18: 23
    +7
    There is an extremely persistent myth in the West that it is possible to undergo some kind of completely magical training that will make you a super soldier. They don’t have anything like that, it’s generally nonsense, but I’m watching with laughter how this myth is becoming more and more strengthened among the masses)
    Apparently, the roots of this psychovirus are in that monolithic message that everything in the world (especially difficult and terrible) should be done only and exclusively by "specially trained people." Since there are such specialists for all occasions, why can't there be super-training for a specially trained god of war ?!
    And now people who do not help anyone, do not know how to do anything and know little, since they entrust everything to specialists, are already completely sure that there is training for a super-soldier. They are ready to pay, and they pay.
    The position of the instructors who receive this money is funny) They are well aware that you can’t stamp a super-soldier, no matter how much you pay, and no matter how much you bully the trainees. Instill some skills - please. To make a warrior out of a man is not to turn to instructors. In general, such upbringing (training has nothing to do with it) should be started by the mother ... However, this is another story.
    In general, these training programs are super. Spider-men will come out of them in whole regiments ...
    1. ammunition
      ammunition 22 September 2022 18: 35
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      Quote: Mikhail3
      There is an extremely persistent myth in the West that it is possible to undergo some kind of completely magical training that will make you a super soldier.

      Yes, almost any layman .. even (sometimes) among those who have passed the deadline .. somewhere believes in it.
      Quote: Mikhail3
      are already completely sure - there is training for a super-soldier.

      sad There is ! It is .. albeit not like in fairy tales .. .
      But ! This is a very cruel and long process .. with prohibitive hardships .. and screenings .. at least a third.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 23 September 2022 12: 40
        +3
        Quote: ammunition
        There is ! It is .. albeit not like in fairy tales .. .

        Not! He doesn't exist!)
        No, it was not, and never, never will be) To get a GRU commando (or GU, whatever it is now)) a ready-made warrior is taken and trained in what he does not yet know how to do. That's the thing. The transformation into a warrior begins when a person is taught to speak.
        As long as the West believes that it is possible to get a warrior out of shit through various manipulations, they will not win.
        It's another matter that here you are, and many others here, don't even understand what I'm talking about (
    2. Horon
      Horon 22 September 2022 19: 04
      +5
      There is an extremely persistent myth in the West that it is possible to undergo some kind of completely magical training that will make you a super soldier.

      You may not be able to make a super-soldier, but you can make a good terrorist by removing some mental restrictions and conducting a course of sabotage. 21st day for a simple action movie is enough.
      1. ammunition
        ammunition 22 September 2022 19: 39
        +3
        Quote: Horon
        21st day for a simple action movie is enough.

        laughing
        The preparation process begins with kindergarten and school. Faith . Evpaty Kolovrat and Suvorov .. etc. Physical training. Golden TRP badge.
        Service call. If the task is a "super soldier" .. then preliminary selection for moral-volitional and physical training .. and the type of nervous system.
        -----------
        Here I will skip the special methods .. they are cruel .. 5-7 people out of a hundred remain disabled.
        The term of preparation - at the maximum forcing - 1.5 years. (one and a half years). Minimum.
        1st stage - deep planting of iron discipline and "it is impossible to forget the word"
        Further - Training does not stop day or night .. the consumption of ammunition is huge .. with the replacement of new weapons .. having shot its resource with a new one (in factory grease) after 8 months.
        Screening .. in the process of training another 15 people per hundred.
        Constant runs and checks in conditions as close as possible to combat .. or (if possible) in combat.
        And again and again..
        --------------------
        This was possible only in the USSR sad Since an important condition - the soldier had to be sure .. that " so in the whole army ".. otherwise, attempts to evade are inevitable -))))) laughing
        1. Horon
          Horon 22 September 2022 19: 48
          +3
          You are talking about a warrior. To prepare a combat scumbag, it is enough to carry out psycho-treatment (with a good specialist for a couple of days using special chemistry) and the rest of the time theory and practice of owning different types of weapons and working out teams in collective work.
          Remove fitness and motivation (it can be set with the help of psychoprogramming)
          These are disposable products, no one will carpet much over them.
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 23 September 2022 12: 36
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        Quote: Horon
        but you can make a good terrorist

        Of course. It is always possible to turn a person from good into g ... it is always possible. But what do the soldiers have to do with it?
        1. Horon
          Horon 23 September 2022 13: 25
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          What kind of soldiers? Were there soldiers in ISIS too? They are preparing a frostbitten terrorist who is ready to harm the enemy in any way and does not bother with humanistic reasoning and is absolutely cynical in his views on good and evil. They give him basic knowledge of tactics and weapons, psychologically bind him to some kind of "idea" or "personality", and now, under the guise of a soldier, there is the most untethered scumbag, capable of fulfilling any order and capable of any cruelty. You (in this case, the British) do not need his victory, the main thing is that he creates the maximum difficulties for the enemy and inflicts the maximum possible damage with his actions or life, and most importantly, you will not personally be held responsible for his actions, because officially you trained a "soldier"!
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 23 September 2022 14: 19
            +1
            What hiccup? What are you talking about? I'm talking about a warrior, you're talking about the waste that is prepared for slaughter in the camps. Go to God dilo, go to the devil dad?
            1. Horon
              Horon 23 September 2022 14: 31
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              I'm talking about preparing dill in the UK for 21 days. Military specialists do not train for such a period, but they have extensive experience in training a terrorist-minded militant.
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 23 September 2022 17: 07
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                So the preparation of a terrorist includes such a psychopath that he would not have surrendered to captivity. At least until the bullshit wears off. And after that, he would have planned in a fool. It's all a completely different story.
                1. Horon
                  Horon 23 September 2022 17: 40
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                  So the preparation of a terrorist includes such a psychopath that he would not have surrendered to captivity.

                  Not always, it all depends on what kind of settings were given. If they want to make a suicide bomber with fanatical settings, then yes, it will be a one-time. And if for work, including in the rear, then this can only be detected by psychological reactions and bookmarks.
                  1. Mikhail3
                    Mikhail3 23 September 2022 17: 59
                    +1
                    You are generally right ... just all your conclusions for another topic. Terrorists are sharply divided into two types - duped suckers, and cunningly ... smart recipients of money for other people's deaths. The organization you mentioned is not terrorist in the main. There, just poor Arabs and the rest of the East, tail-spinners without a future, they earned a little, that's all.
                    And terrorism does not happen without psycho-processing. Yes, but it must be used quickly, once. Psychotherapy, the most serious and cool, is very weak under fire. As the crocodile starts hitting you with hail and nurses, so any hypnosis under foolishness evaporates right before your eyes) Quickly use up the "material" in one battle, it will still work. But it is impossible to fight like that, this preparation falls apart very quickly.
                    Here is the DRG in our rear, this may come up.
                    1. Horon
                      Horon 23 September 2022 19: 56
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                      The organization you mentioned is not terrorist in the main.

                      It was just an example, in Chechnya we also had a lot of processed and not a small part of them contacted and trained with British instructors.
                      And terrorism does not happen without psycho-processing. Yes, but it must be used quickly, once.

                      Psycho-processing does not always pass quickly, sometimes there are "bookmarks" for decades. I read a little on this topic even under the USSR. We also had research on this topic, but in the West, these issues have moved much further. You can read about some of their achievements in their fiction or watch them in films, although there they present it in a veiled way, some moments are specially distorted (perhaps on purpose) and the plot revolves around fantastic or absurd events, but knowing the information from the source, you can just be surprised How did they even publish this?
                      As the crocodile begins to hit you with hail and nurses, so any hypnosis under foolishness evaporates right before your eyes

                      Not every bookmark will fly off in an extreme situation. Some may turn off the instinct of self-preservation (especially if they also fill it with chemistry before that), they may even “demolish the roof” and they will begin to behave like berserkers, or there may be those who will change their personality when receiving a command from the commander, he will be a berserker, there is no commander or there is no command - an ordinary slobber who will fill his pants even from the clap of firecrackers. But I think with dill everything is easier. There will be one setting: to hate and kill the Russians and those who support them on the basis of absolute faith in their own exclusivity and rightness (Nazism which he will not even notice), in case the murder is not possible, lie low and enjoy the rights of a prisoner of war, and as soon as control will be removed, the "kill the Russian" setting will turn on. Moreover, the preliminary installation has already been made with the help of propaganda, the British will only further strengthen it and that's it ..., you can send it to the front.
                      1. Mikhail3
                        Mikhail3 23 September 2022 20: 06
                        +1
                        For almost everything you described, no bookmarks in the mind are needed. I met such Ukrainians, with zoological hatred for Russians, back in the USSR, and no one definitely zombified them)
                        You don't really understand the process of psycho-processing. Yes, all this can be done. But this cannot be done en masse. For the simple reason that this processing is more art than science. You need to tune in very precisely to the person being processed, feel it every moment of time, and accurately give out certain messages.
                        That is, a talented practicing psychologist, a master is needed for such work. At the same time, the psychologist should not be sick of what he is doing. What do you think, how many virtuosos of practical psychology are there in the world? And how many people are they able to handle per day? How much rest do they need?
                        Making several dozen people in a short time is a task for practitioners in the United States, after which they will have to go on a long vacation, scoring all other tasks. In England, even half of the required composition cannot be scraped together) And you can’t dig up masters to process thousands of people all over the world.
    3. gunnady
      gunnady 22 September 2022 19: 13
      -2
      Yes, no training is needed - they gave a machine gun in their hands, and blow into the trenches. Donetsk and Luhansk mobiles fight perfectly even without any training.
  6. maxim1987
    maxim1987 22 September 2022 18: 32
    +5
    what a sweetheart! did not study, did not shoot, etc., etc. Simply, a simple storekeeper rolled up to Britain at the expense of the state
    1. Sergey Isaev
      Sergey Isaev 22 September 2022 19: 08
      -3
      Be people, let a person go to Turkey, he has not seen Istanbul either)
      1. Horon
        Horon 22 September 2022 19: 11
        +2
        No, it's better to go straight to hell. He was not there either, and there are many of his acquaintances there.
  7. Silver99
    Silver99 22 September 2022 18: 34
    +3
    Cheshire
    And I believe, I believed from the words that it was forbidden to look at women. In their army there, you can only look at men, it seems to be true ....
    Maybe he's missing something?
    _______________________________________
    They may not work directly.
    Shast in a compartment - and pretend to be a man,
    And she herself will put tola under the corset ...
    You check what gender your neighbor is! (V.S. Vysotsky)
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 22 September 2022 18: 41
    +1
    Captured Ukrainian attack aircraft told how he was trained in a British training camp
    . Cooking an ordinary train over the hill is absurd ....
    To prepare command personnel, according to the criteria of foreign countries ... a double-edged sword, but this is at least some kind of option, to make up for the loss of personnel
    One thing is clear, if the number of "travel allowances" is not increased by a multiple, this is a conversation about nothing.
    1. Horon
      Horon 22 September 2022 19: 08
      +4
      The British are not preparing warriors, they are preparing terrorists. All known terrorists were trained by British or American instructors.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 September 2022 19: 26
        +1
        So such a contingent falls under reductions, regularly ...
        But then again, if the process of liberation of the territories goes more intensively, the activity of the terr groups will come to naught ... this is what always happens if the civilian population accepts a change in status and is engaged in restoring a normal, peaceful life.
        Those. how exactly it will be is not yet clear, but the general trends are always the same.
      2. Beck69
        Beck69 23 September 2022 07: 15
        0
  9. Sergey Isaev
    Sergey Isaev 22 September 2022 18: 48
    -3
    Oh, liar) junior storekeeper and to Britain) well, in the smoking room and even more fun stories are told)
  10. Horon
    Horon 22 September 2022 18: 52
    +1
    Or simply lying about what the preparation was.

    Just lying. And he also knows the base, and the course on how to behave in captivity also passed, judging by the neutral answers.
    In order to teach how to disassemble and assemble an automatic machine, even a very narrow-minded person will need only one day, there are still 20 left. winked
    1. Sergey Isaev
      Sergey Isaev 22 September 2022 19: 14
      -3
      Possible to carry out sabotage and subversion
  11. kmg
    kmg 22 September 2022 18: 54
    0
    why are enemies taken prisoner, then released in disgrace?
  12. Mint Gingerbread
    Mint Gingerbread 22 September 2022 19: 11
    -1
    What can be taught to a person in 21 days?
    1. Beck69
      Beck69 23 September 2022 07: 17
      0
      Minimum terror skills. They can’t make a saboteur out of shit, but they can throw their own into a school, a kindergarten. Still brainwash, so that there was no conscience.
  13. svp67
    svp67 22 September 2022 19: 12
    +3
    A lot of lies. Others talk more about preparation and everything else. And this "stupid" builds himself
  14. T.A.V.
    T.A.V. 22 September 2022 19: 48
    0
    Tryndit bastard .... knowing nothing., I don’t remember, I don’t know how
  15. Million
    Million 22 September 2022 20: 40
    +1
    we were only searched, no one beat us, we were fed and given tea

    Probably, all the same, it was necessary to beat him in order to be more frank.
  16. DeGreen
    DeGreen 23 September 2022 11: 41
    0
    Why are they being taken prisoner? I do not understand. No man, no problem
  17. NAF-NAF
    NAF-NAF 23 September 2022 21: 42
    -1
    "I spent only a day on the front line" and "did not have time to fire a single shot" - means about the same as "cook", "clerk", "driver". Yes, and on the muzzle it is written: is it really for everything that I managed to do, nothing will happen to me?
  18. NAF-NAF
    NAF-NAF 23 September 2022 21: 45
    -1
    Quote: Horon
    course on how to behave in captivity
    Are they preparing for this? Well, it’s like preparing for surrender turns out, and not for staunch resistance and “to the last drop of blood”?