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Peskov: The seventh paragraph of the decree on partial mobilization is classified

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Peskov: The seventh paragraph of the decree on partial mobilization is classified

A decree on partial mobilization was published on the website of the President of the Russian Federation, but not in full - one of the points was omitted. This has already been noticed by journalists who raised the issue of its content with the Kremlin.


The press secretary of the head of state, Dmitry Peskov, explained to the press that the seventh paragraph of the new regulatory act is not subject to disclosure, since it contains information of a secret nature, access to which is limited by official competence. However, Peskov said that it contains information about the number of citizens who will be mobilized into Russian troops:

Shoigu said in his interview - 300 thousand people. There [in a classified paragraph] we are talking about the number of up to 300 thousand people.

The document states that the mobilized citizens will serve in the status of contract soldiers with the payment of appropriate allowances. The term of their stay in the ranks of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will last until the expiration of the decree. However, they can be dismissed in cases of reaching the age limit, for health reasons, and in connection with a conviction related to deprivation of liberty.

On the basis of the decree, starting today, the country's military registration and enlistment offices begin to carry out mobilization activities, gathering citizens with military service experience, primarily with combat experience and military registration specialties necessary for the troops. The Minister of Defense instructed the military registration and enlistment offices to work in close cooperation with the regional authorities.
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  1. Sergio_7
    Sergio_7 21 September 2022 14: 51
    +2
    In principle, everything is already clear to everyone!
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 21 September 2022 15: 04
      +35
      With the beginning of the SVO, some people left the service. I wonder if they will be called back as having combat experience? Agree, for this contingent a curious turn of events.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 15: 26
        +4
        they will be taken first of all, and former officers
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 21 September 2022 17: 45
          +13
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          and former officers

          There are no "former" officers, unless, of course, he was deprived of this military rank by a court verdict. yes
          The service of this category in / sl goes through three stages: the current composition, being in the reserve, and being retired - upon reaching the age limit or due to illness.
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 17: 52
            0
            didn’t know the terminology, then I’m talking about reserve officers
          2. ada
            ada 22 September 2022 01: 30
            +1
            Let's clarify. Military duty is performed during the passage of military service and stay in the reserve.
            "... A person who has reached the age limit for being in the reserve or who has been recognized as unfit for military service for health reasons in accordance with the procedure established by this Federal Law shall be transferred by the military commissariat or other body in charge of military registration into retirement and removed from military registration...." Here you can talk about retirement and being retired.
            N 53-ФЗ yes
      2. 4ekist
        4ekist 21 September 2022 20: 54
        0
        Sergey Aleksandrovich ..
        I wonder if they will be called back as having combat experience?

        The comrade said that the reserve officers of the Strategic Missile Forces will be used according to a special plan.
    2. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 21 September 2022 15: 05
      +20
      300 not 300, guess what. Time passed, the situation cleared up very well, an experience came that was "the son of difficult mistakes", although not necessarily mistakes, but simply matured, as many as needed and will be called. Otherwise, there will again be a delay, which is not "good." Not for nothing that even Erdogan said about Putin's desire to end the conflict. That's why the call.
      1. invisible_man
        invisible_man 21 September 2022 15: 10
        +8
        In a good way, for the period of hostilities it is necessary to bring the number of Ground Forces to 700-800 thousand.
        1. bayard
          bayard 21 September 2022 17: 08
          +7
          Quote from invisible_man
          In a good way, for the period of hostilities it is necessary to bring the number of Ground Forces to 700-800 thousand.

          Such a number of SV RF Armed Forces should have in peacetime staff. And the experience of the NWO has shown that this is how it should be.
          And for the successful completion of the SVO, it is necessary to have at least 800 - 1 thousand l / s only in the Ukrainian theater of operations, creating, albeit a small, but superiority in l / s, or at least equalize this number.
          Today, the Allied Forces grouping in the theater is 200 thousand at most, but the lately mobilized reserves of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Russian Guard (volunteer units are formed precisely under the auspices and under a contract with the Russian Guard) with a total strength of about 250 thousand are already arriving and deploying. This will help stabilize the situation on the fronts and exclude breakthroughs like the "Kharkov counteroffensive" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
          It should be understood that in addition to the 300 thousand mobilized of the first wave, in parallel, the formation of volunteer units by the National Guard and the attraction of foreign citizens for a contract (with the provision of Russian citizenship after a year of service), as well as the formation of assault "Wagner penal battalions" continue. So the desired number (about 1 million) will be ready, trained, equipped and coordinated, somewhere by spring.
          And the number of l / s of the NVO group will be equal, with the APU by the end of autumn and the beginning of winter.
          1. invisible_man
            invisible_man 21 September 2022 18: 11
            +3
            According to science, the total number of peacetime armed forces should not exceed 1% of the country's population, otherwise problems with the economy will begin. In principle, an increase in the number of dry military units to 800 thousand is possible - provided that the number of other types of aircraft is "frozen". Now SuhVO is 280 thousand, the rest are 600. If you increase the number of SuhVO to 800, you get about 1,4 million in total. Fine.
            1. bayard
              bayard 21 September 2022 19: 11
              +2
              Quote from invisible_man
              If you increase the number of SuhVO to 800, you get about 1,4 million in total. Fine.

              And another 100 thousand in the Aerospace Forces and the Airborne Forces.
              The size of the peacetime army for the Russian Federation should be 1,5 million - a minimum. This is exactly 1% of the population. In addition, in a week, not only new territories, but also new millions of citizens will join the Russian Federation.
              But during a military conflict like this one (the current one - of medium intensity), the number of the RF Armed Forces must be increased to 2 million people. , so as not to weaken other directions. For our State is vast.
            2. ada
              ada 22 September 2022 00: 52
              0
              Quote from invisible_man
              According to science, the total number of peacetime armed forces should not exceed 1% of the country's population, otherwise ...

              Science - yes, it is like that, in itself.
              To be honest, I have seen such an assessment in documents, only the texts in them were "near-scientific", today they can be called "harmful" or even more correctly.
          2. ramzay21
            ramzay21 21 September 2022 18: 42
            +5
            So the desired number (about 1 million) will be ready, trained, equipped and well-coordinated, somewhere by spring

            You are overly optimistic. Firstly, the groups of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation plus the LDNR mobiks plus the National Guard of 200 thousand are no longer there, there are many refuseniks and many losses, including the wounded. Secondly, there are no 250 thousand volunteers either, at best, 40 thousand. And the only way to bring the group to a million is to mobilize about 800 thousand people, but not at once, but in waves of 200-300 thousand.

            And a very big question is the provision of mobilized uniforms, weapons and especially equipment.
            An even bigger question is the creation of newly formed units in the open field, junior and senior command staff. A year ago, it was necessary to create accelerated officer courses, as well as structures in the Moscow Region that would study and disseminate the experience of military operations in the LDNR among the troops.
            Without the purge of the leadership of the military-industrial complex and those in the Moscow Region who provided rearmament, as well as the generals, with the appointment of professionals, the mobilization will fail.
            1. bayard
              bayard 21 September 2022 19: 42
              +3
              Quote: ramzay21
              You are overly optimistic. Firstly, the groupings of the RF Armed Forces plus the LDNR mobikov plus the Russian Guard 200 thousand are no longer there,

              This is the number at the moment (180 - 200 thousand).
              The staffing strength of the two LDNR corps was 60 thousand (35 thousand - the 1st corps, 25 thousand - the 2nd), but only on the eve of the SVO it turned out that the corps were actually staffed by about 60%, the rest were dead souls. Therefore, the rapid mobilization that took place 2 weeks before the start of the NWO only replenished the corps to a full staff. How many were mobilized additionally is not known, but their numbers only made up for the losses of both corps in the first months of the NWO.
              Quote: ramzay21
              there are no 250 thousand volunteers either, at best 40 thousand.

              I gave the estimated number of current replenishments on the basis that the Ministry of Defense increased the staffing by 135 thousand + volunteer units of the Russian Guard, which are estimated at about 65 thousand. In total, this gives 200 thousand + PMCs and reserves of the RF Armed Forces, who arrived after the defeat in the Kharkov direction .
              In sum, this can give within a month an increase in the grouping on the theater of operations up to 400-450 thousand, which will already be enough to stabilize the situation and prevent new breakthroughs.
              If by the end of the year the SVO grouping is replenished with the same 300 thousand of the 1st wave of mobilization, this will approximately equalize the number of groups and tactical, or even operational-tactical offensives will become possible. By spring, the grouping can be deployed in numbers of up to 1 million people.
              That's what I meant.
              Quote: ramzay21
              And the only way to bring the group to a million is to mobilize about 800 thousand people, but not all at once, but in waves of 200-300 thousand.

              Quite right 2-3 waves in 2-3 months each.
              Plus, the recruitment of foreign volunteers under the contract, which has already been announced.
              Quote: ramzay21
              An even bigger question is the creation of newly formed units in the open field, junior and senior command staff. A year ago, it was necessary to create accelerated officer courses

              Quite right, it was necessary to start preparing for the NMD in the spring of 2021, when the plans of NATO and the Armed Forces of Ukraine for the upcoming attack on the Donbass in early March 2022 became known. Be on 24.02.2022/300/60. the RF Armed Forces have prepared a grouping of XNUMX thousand (+ XNUMX thousand from the LDNR), and everything would have worked out perfectly, the initial success could have been developed and consolidated, the territories cleared, and logistics secured from sabotage.
              Quote: ramzay21
              Without the purge of the leadership of the military-industrial complex and those in the Moscow Region who provided rearmament, as well as the generals, with the appointment of professionals, the mobilization will fail.

              And this is true. But in our realities, such a purge looks like ... utopia.
              It's a pity .
            2. IvanSviridov
              IvanSviridov 22 September 2022 06: 13
              -1
              Quote: ramzay21
              And a very big question is the provision of mobilized uniforms, weapons and especially equipment.

          3. ada
            ada 22 September 2022 00: 55
            0
            Quote: bayard
            ... and mobilized ones are deployed ...

            Forces and means are "deployed" (military term). There are no "waves of mobilization" (gen. term), there are reserves, formations according to the terms of mobilization.
            1. bayard
              bayard 22 September 2022 01: 37
              +4
              Do not find fault with terms, for 8,5 years we have such terms as the 1st, 2nd ... 8th wave of mobilization of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are already hanging on our ears. Already something, and they stumbled on the mobilization, over the years - quickly, clearly and in the volumes they need.
              For me, at least call it a pot, but give the right number of troops to the front! At the right time and in the right quality.
              And it turned out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine worked out mobilization for 8,5 years, prepared and armed the army, prepared all state services and administrations, infrastructure, for war ... And the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation at that time, in addition to showing off, were engaged in the destruction of their own mobilization capabilities. They reduced the staff of military registration and enlistment offices to the very worst, accounting for reservists and normal mobile training, they were not conducted, there were NO mobilization plans at all !!
              But there were tank biathlons and "military temples" ... Well, at least icons are not sent to the front in wagons now, as in the Russian-Japanese ...
              And the equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is much better. Our boys were so envious and undressed the prisoners right away (that's why they are sitting there in sportswear and other civilians. And it's a shame - why are we worse ?? Why do they have more drones?
              CONCLUSIONS must be made. And fix all the shoals, which just showed up.
              And to carry out mobilization ... RHYTHMIC - every couple of months, 300 thousand. So you look and we will equalize in strength, and there will be something to attack.
              EQUIPMENT !
              EQUIPMENT !
              Means of reconnaissance and target designation!
              Secure communications!
              Heavy armored vehicles for assault units - TBTR, TBMP, BMPT (ShMPP) !!
              High-quality individual first-aid kits!!!
              And NEVER TRY TO FIGHT IN THE MINORITY again unless absolutely necessary.
              1. ada
                ada 22 September 2022 02: 18
                +1
                Duc, I don’t find fault, what I remember - I clarify, maybe it will be useful to someone (people read it).
                And I completely agree with you, it bled at the very heart when they were rebuilt and reduced in the Western manner. So much time wasted before. Need to catch up!
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 21 September 2022 15: 13
        -9
        Actually, everything is happening as always .. Like a regular army, with a roar, the border battle pisses away, and the recruitment of young animals begins. which stops the enemy. And they start persecuting the adversary when they call for 40-year-old men and above. Grated by life and extremely embittered. Here they are - they enter the enemy capital .. Those who survive, of course ..
        1. Alexey Lantukh
          Alexey Lantukh 21 September 2022 15: 22
          +17
          I do not agree with "prosiranie". Our army fought with dignity, although not smoothly
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 21 September 2022 15: 43
            +5
            Worthy, no one argues. But - look at the map of hostilities, say April and the last one. How hard it is to call that a victory, isn't it?
            1. Alexey Lantukh
              Alexey Lantukh 21 September 2022 16: 46
              0
              There is no victory. BUT this is the defeat of the political leadership.
            2. lis-ik
              lis-ik 21 September 2022 17: 56
              +7
              Quote: paul3390
              Worthy, no one argues. But - look at the map of hostilities, say April and the last one. How hard it is to call that a victory, isn't it?

              And this question needs to be asked to the president and builder Shoigu, and it is not clear how mobilization will help without the desire of the authorities to fight for real, with normal strikes on infrastructure and notorious centers.
        2. ovod84
          ovod84 21 September 2022 17: 07
          +1
          well, I think about 40-60 thousand, of which more than half are more likely to be combat veterans, all this will happen within a month
          1. vlad106
            vlad106 26 September 2022 20: 04
            0
            It is necessary to drive law enforcers there. Bailiffs, members of the National Guard and migrant gasters who have received citizenship and who want to receive it. As well as gouging from the VD. This option will allow you to recruit more than a million people. Everyone must sign a voluntary referral
        3. Magog_
          Magog_ 21 September 2022 17: 30
          -1
          prosiraet border battle
          It all depends on how correctly the tasks are assigned to the troops. In relation to 41: with the outbreak of hostilities, the Red Army did not have the task of repelling aggression, on the contrary, there was the strictest order: "do not engage in battle, do not succumb to provocations, negotiate with the enemy." So they agreed - they surrendered in full force, that is, what the enemy demanded. Then comes the consequence... The cadre army is the first, as a rule, to "sip the bitter stew" of the start of hostilities under the conditions of erroneous decisions and forecasts of the top leadership, when the enemy dictates his campaign scenario, and so on.
      3. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 21 September 2022 15: 16
        0
        you can’t assemble at once for 300 thousand equipment
        for 40 more from storage bases of the 000st and 1nd category: start and go
        BMP-1 2000 units for 20 people, (000rd 3)
        BMP-2 1000 units per 10 people, (000rd 3)
        MT-LB 1000 units per 10 people (000rd 3)
        3rd category; BTR-60/70 4000 units, BRDM-2 1000 units, BTR-50 (rarity) 1000 units

        AFV Tiger, Typhoon, Athlete, Arrow, Wolf 1000 units. per 10 people
        BBM - if only assembled from parts - or supplies of new equipment

        most likely, a mass delivery of new equipment BTR-82AM, BMP-3, BT-3F, BMD-4, BTR-MDM is expected
        1. Alexey Lantukh
          Alexey Lantukh 21 September 2022 15: 24
          +7
          Here is a big question about the mass supply of military equipment. It is not done quickly. Especially not the Great Patriotic War, where they gave a month and try not to do it - a tribunal.
          1. Romario_Argo
            Romario_Argo 21 September 2022 15: 28
            +4
            I really don’t know from where the MO was going to pull out so much armor under motorized riflemen
            well, or then at the time of everyone to the Zila and the Urals under a canvas awning
            then these are motorized infantry units without rifle armor
            by the way, the old BMP-1 has a side of 16 mm and 18 mm 7,62x54 exactly holds
        2. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 15: 37
          -8
          not everyone will go into the infantry, for many one Kamaz for 40 people is enough
          1. Romario_Argo
            Romario_Argo 21 September 2022 15: 44
            +2
            seems to have been prepared
            there is such a thing as military planning in our Ministry of Defense
            the first BMP-1 vehicles removed from storage of the 3rd and 4th categories were upgraded to
            126 BMP-1AM Basurmanin vehicles delivery July 2020 + beginning February 2022
            .
            https://topcor.ru/15382-v-rossii-zasnjali-jeshelon-s-mnozhestvom-bmp-1am-basurmanin.html
            .
            https://topwar.ru/191845-minoborony-anonsirovalo-postavku-v-vojska-partii-modernizirovannyh-bmp-1am-basurmanin.html
            .
            I think there will be a gradual mobilization of 50 people + their coordination at the training grounds up to a month
            + 2 new factories for the repair of armored vehicles are being launched just for this task
            will be issued from conservation for 200-300 infantry fighting vehicles
            I can’t say how many already modernized BMP-1AMs, it seems already under 1000 units. since 2020 and this equipment was the 3rd and 4th category of storage
            1. Magog_
              Magog_ 21 September 2022 16: 37
              +5
              seems to have been prepared
              Any mobilization has two stages: hidden and explicit. We have now announced an open mobilization. There is no point in declaring such a thing if you haven't done the proper preparation... This is classic, but we'll see what happens in reality.
              1. Romario_Argo
                Romario_Argo 21 September 2022 16: 40
                0
                that's it, requests for the company from the military registration and enlistment offices have already rained down today
      4. Alexga
        Alexga 21 September 2022 15: 26
        +1
        Not for nothing that even Erdogan said about Putin's desire to end the conflict.

        Yes, and Lukashenka has been talking about strengthening the defense capability of the state for two days now. No wonder the Security Council gathered in Moscow the day before yesterday.
      5. Colonel_Ivanov
        Colonel_Ivanov 21 September 2022 16: 18
        -1
        There is some doubt that so many people are ready to go to the front to fight and die for the interests of the authorities ...
        1. TIR
          TIR 21 September 2022 17: 58
          +3
          If you don't want to go to war, you'll go to the bunk. 5% of the male population are 100% ready to fight and go to war as volunteers. 45% of men are ready to fight, but it is difficult to take a step towards war. These are the people who are being pushed into action. Both categories are equivalent, that volunteers, that mobs will have their own heroes and over time they will be one mass
          1. Li17
            Li17 23 September 2022 12: 50
            0
            Quote: TIR
            If you don't want to go to war, you'll go to the bunk.

            And this is based on what article of the law? In my time, there was administrative responsibility, much less than a bribe to the draft board. Have we declared martial law?
            I supplement and answer myself, copied
            "What will happen if you do not come on the mobilization agenda? At the moment, from the point of view of the legislation, the maximum that you will face is an administrative fine under Article 21.5 of the Code of Administrative Offenses in the amount of up to 3 thousand rubles."
    3. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 21 September 2022 15: 10
      +4

      Everyone understands everything, only everyone understands in their own way
    4. Vend
      Vend 21 September 2022 15: 27
      +16
      The item is classified, but Peskov declassified it. And who is he after that? laughing
      1. isv000
        isv000 21 September 2022 16: 43
        +1
        Quote: Wend
        The item is classified, but Peskov declassified it. And who is he after that? laughing

        Purgomet lol
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 21 September 2022 17: 57
        +6
        Quote: Wend
        The item is classified, but Peskov declassified it.

        The first figure named Shoigu.
        Peskov and K* did not say the most important thing: what specialties are subject to conscription and in what quantity, i.e. none of the BOZZ disclosed the structure of the call. It is she who contains information constituting a military secret. bully
        1. Shtrek
          Shtrek 21 September 2022 18: 34
          +2
          Peskov and K* did not say the most important thing: what specialties are subject to conscription and in what quantity, i.e. no one from the BOZ disclosed the structure of the call

          ... well, of course, this detail was already announced by the previous BONZA ",,,, I need attack aircraft. .... 60% of specialists are attack aircraft (c)
    5. ANB
      ANB 22 September 2022 22: 41
      0
      Not everything is clear in terms of software.
      According to the law, the mobilized is fired and sit on dd.
      At Solovyov's, the deputy told what would be like at the training camp - the payment of the average salary, plus dd.
      My opinion is that those called should receive dd and their average. And in case of death, the families will receive the same amount for 10 years.
  2. navigator777
    navigator777 21 September 2022 14: 52
    +14
    That is 300 tons. this is preliminary, they can call for more if necessary
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 21 September 2022 14: 53
      +14
      Quote: navigator777
      That is 300 tons. this is preliminary, they can call for more if necessary

      No, it means there is any other number, not 300 thousand. Otherwise, why keep it secret?
      1. Chronos
        Chronos 21 September 2022 15: 04
        +22
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Quote: navigator777
        That is 300 tons. this is preliminary, they can call for more if necessary

        No, it means there is any other number, not 300 thousand. Otherwise, why keep it secret?

        There is nothing to secret, therefore nothing is classified. Clause 7 of the DSP (which Peskov was talking about). There, most likely, it’s not just the number of 300 thousand, but also the criteria for mobilization, and most importantly, the MCA with the distribution of these 300 thousand according to the MCA.
        1. Gvardeetz77
          Gvardeetz77 21 September 2022 15: 30
          +7
          There, most likely, it’s not just the number of 300 thousand, but also the criteria for mobilization, and most importantly, the MCA with the distribution of these 300 thousand according to the MCA.

          According to the VUS, this will already be in another document, departmental, from the Moscow Region. The Decrees of the President do not write about this, he talks about the total number
      2. navigator777
        navigator777 21 September 2022 15: 06
        +3
        Perhaps it is written there how much and when should be called up, Shoigu said so, it will gradually go.
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 21 September 2022 15: 14
        +3
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Otherwise, why keep it secret?

        Most likely, the specifics on the VUS are written there, how many specialties are required to be called up, and this is undoubtedly a secret infa.
        1. Gvardeetz77
          Gvardeetz77 21 September 2022 15: 32
          +1
          Quote: Piramidon
          Quote: BlackMokona
          Otherwise, why keep it secret?

          Most likely, the specifics on the VUS are written there, how many specialties are required to be called up, and this is undoubtedly a secret infa.

          Already wrote above. For higher educational institutions, the Decree does not exactly write, the maximum is "the list of categories according to the calculation of the Moscow Region" or "defines the Moscow Region"
      4. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 21 September 2022 15: 23
        0
        Quote: BlackMokona
        No, it means there is any other number, not 300 thousand. Otherwise, why keep it secret?

        You understood correctly. Otherwise, why was it necessary to use the signature stamp in secret, in order to tell about it later?
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 21 September 2022 14: 57
      +8
      Quote: navigator777
      That is 300 tons. this is preliminary, they can call for more if necessary

      That is, it is useless to ask a question.
      That's what it was invented for, secrecy.

      Well, by and large, guys, it's time to tie up with a beer in the evenings and get dumbbells from the balcony.
      1. akropin
        akropin 21 September 2022 15: 05
        +12
        Yes, you can just try to climb home without an elevator)
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 21 September 2022 15: 32
          +12
          Today I was at the Central District Hospital, writing out prescriptions for old people. A man, 45 years old, was flying over the stairs, overtaking me.. I was looking for a commission for a contract.. A quick man ...
        2. Andriuha077
          Andriuha077 21 September 2022 16: 01
          +4
          And instead of the amusement park, visit the shooting range
          Shooting sport https://t.me/lobaev_vlad/4331
          The presence of a mosquito https://t.me/lobaev_vlad/4489
      2. Cheshire
        Cheshire 21 September 2022 15: 41
        +2
        laughing
        It's been a couple of years since I bought the horizontal bar. It's been in the air for a long time...
        1. TIR
          TIR 21 September 2022 18: 01
          +2
          That is, the horizontal bar has been hovering in the air for 2 years already?
          1. Cheshire
            Cheshire 21 September 2022 18: 48
            +1
            Well, for the last six months I rarely come up, but before that, regularly). But the son enjoys it with might and main good
            1. TIR
              TIR 21 September 2022 19: 20
              +1
              The younger generation needs a horizontal bar very much. And growth gives and most importantly posture. Very useful in today's sedentary-eating world
              1. Cheshire
                Cheshire 22 September 2022 06: 40
                0
                That is why I teach. He will be 14, the growth and development of the skeleton is underway.
    3. Yves762
      Yves762 21 September 2022 14: 57
      -3
      300k - the number of "slots" so far places. And how much will pass through them in the end, even if without increasing their number, - only Heaven knows (the version of the authorities in the 7th paragraph)
    4. svp67
      svp67 21 September 2022 15: 00
      +12
      Quote: navigator777
      That is 300 tons. this is preliminary, they can call for more if necessary

      Everyone can. But 300 is already a very large number. Really very big
      1. bk316
        bk316 21 September 2022 15: 21
        +10
        Greetings Sergey. She's not just big, she's ugly. I think that I will not reveal a secret if I say that it is the maximum possible for the first wave of mobilization. Otherwise, there simply will not be enough training centers, barracks, and other logistical difficulties will be created.
        This suggests a hypothesis (I will not argue) that this is not a partial mobilization, but the first wave of a general one.
        But that's not all. Somehow people did not notice what was happening in the military-industrial complex. For the sake of interest, go to the site of Kronstadt
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 21 September 2022 15: 31
          +3
          Greetings

          Quote: bk316
          For the sake of interest, go to the site of Kronstadt

          I went. Didn't see anything new. So what is going on in the military-industrial complex? The truth is interesting.
          1. bk316
            bk316 21 September 2022 16: 03
            +10
            3 months ago, there were no production vacancies at the Moscow site, I don’t remember at the St. Petersburg site, but it seems the same. The site, if you know, is packed.
            And now the full set of vacancies. What does it mean? That's right, almost certainly a three-shift.
            1. Repellent
              Repellent 21 September 2022 16: 16
              +1
              Quote: bk316
              now full of vacancies. What does it mean? Correct almost certainly a three-shift

              Understood thanks hi
        2. svp67
          svp67 21 September 2022 15: 41
          +1
          Quote: bk316
          She's not just big, she's ugly.
          Yes, consider increasing the size of the army by a third, this is not a pound of raisins.
          Quote: bk316
          Otherwise, there simply will not be enough training centers, barracks, and other logistical difficulties will be created.
          Well, they won’t be called all at once, it will all be done in stages.
          Quote: bk316
          This suggests a hypothesis (I will not argue) that this is not a partial mobilization, but the first wave of a general one.
          No, with universal events there are much more and not only in the army. so that there is clearly only partial, although I think it’s not entirely correct
          Quote: bk316
          Somehow people did not notice what was happening in the military-industrial complex. For the sake of interest, go to the site of Kronstadt

          I am for "Kronstadt" with both paws. They really try and give results, not like these kookakers from Kalashnikov ...
          1. bk316
            bk316 21 September 2022 16: 06
            +4
            No, with universal events there are much more and not only in the army

            I will not argue. We'll all see soon.

            I have acquaintances working in Kronstadt, I would even say students. In general, I got to the site for some reason - a friend called him a job offer came, I was surprised at the Moscow site in the summer they didn’t recruit anyone. And yes, the guys there are really passionate about working, can you imagine they haven’t seen each other for 10 years, they met here, barbecue, fishing, and they are all about work and about work. I even envied. I don't know anyone from Kalashnikov.
          2. Chronos
            Chronos 21 September 2022 16: 50
            +2
            And where is the result of "Kronstadt"? Where is the air army of the Pacers?
            1. polar fox
              polar fox 21 September 2022 17: 25
              +4
              Quote: Chronos
              Where is the air army "Pacers"

              From Iran, transporters carry ...
          3. Speedy
            Speedy 21 September 2022 17: 21
            +1
            [quote] [/ quote] And if only the landers up to not a third but more ...
      2. Magog_
        Magog_ 21 September 2022 17: 00
        0
        But 300 is already a very large number.
        Everything is in comparison: the annual draft into the army of 2 x 135 thousand conscripts. And 300 thousand - about the same, a little more. We will wait for the period of the winter campaign, then it will be clearer what the enemy will be capable of.
        300000 is a number, and "number" is an icon, a symbol that (on the fence) can be written very large
      3. Rustic
        Rustic 21 September 2022 18: 16
        +2
        But 300 is already a very large number. Really very big
        A really big figure is how much Shoigu counted the mobile reserve. 30 lyams, this is every 5th, including women, children of the elderly and the disabled. But someone else has to work.
        1. Magog_
          Magog_ 21 September 2022 18: 55
          0
          In the period 41 - 45 years. 34.5 million people were drafted into the Red Army in total, with the population of the USSR about 200 million. And taking into account the fact that in the most difficult and difficult period of the Second World War, 41-43. the population of the unoccupied part of the country was just over 100 million. Without taking into account this feature of the campaign against the Nazi troops, we get the army's mobilization resource of about 17%. What Shoigu announced (25 million people) is the same 17-18%. Labor productivity today is still higher than that time. Including, there will be someone to work in the rear. Only in our country is capitalism, the mobilization capabilities of which are in question, and even without ideology ... In the latter, the Nazis are in a much better position ...
          1. Rustic
            Rustic 21 September 2022 22: 16
            0
            And why suddenly from 25m. If 300k is between 1.0 and 1.1%. A little less than 30m is about 20% of less than 150m. Now estimate the number of pensioners then and now. And not even only pensioners, because "young" pensioners are far from being mobilized by age, if they are not the highest command staff, of course. So in reality, such a beautiful number is only 1 percent, it only comes out when the entire male population from 18 to 55, including the sick and infirm, is considered to be the mobile reserve. And it's not a fact that so many will be typed. At the same time, it follows from his words that this mobile reserve exists right now. It won't happen sometime in the next 5 years. I understand, I wanted a smaller number. For example, one. Say tfu, just nothing. But then it was not necessary to name the total number. The population of the country is known and to recalculate how much it is from how much, you don’t need to be a professor of mathematics.
            1. ada
              ada 22 September 2022 00: 39
              0
              This is not a mobile reserve, it is a mobile resource and it is not only from the male population.
              1. Rustic
                Rustic 22 September 2022 08: 03
                0
                What kind of NWO is this then, in which the mob.resource is all male and not only the population of the country? It's easier then to bang right away ... Purely within the framework of a "special special military operation."
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    1. Paladin
      Paladin 21 September 2022 15: 06
      +6
      An Scholz mit solchen Appellen, wenn Sie sich Sorgen um unsere Ehemänner und Söhne und um die Ehemänner, Söhne und Kinder von Donbass machen. Zwingen Sie diesen Faschisten, die Waffenlieferungen an die ukrainischen Nazis einzustellen.
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 21 September 2022 15: 29
        +6
        Colleague, do not scare me with German at the moment. But the fact that common sense is present in German society is good news.
        1. Paladin
          Paladin 21 September 2022 15: 47
          +5
          Das is a Russian, he just answered the wrong German, his comment was deleted)))))))
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 September 2022 14: 58
    +4
    Distribution by type of troops. Most likely, the number.
    1. Negruz
      Negruz 21 September 2022 15: 20
      +1
      Rather, by region, wus and industry ...
      hi
  5. igopot
    igopot 21 September 2022 14: 58
    +5
    Clause 7 for official use.
    Why confuse information with a limited level of access and talk about information that makes up the state. secret? Incompetent.
    1. ada
      ada 22 September 2022 00: 34
      0
      When officials break away from paperwork (usually with a promotion) and direct participation in the development of documents, they often make mistakes, starting with terminology.
      In the press, the text of paragraph 7 is indeed indicated - chipboard, but there may be another neck.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 21 September 2022 14: 59
    +6
    Peskov: The seventh paragraph of the decree on partial mobilization is classified
    . Yes, at least keep everything secret, as long as the thing is done as it should.
  7. Saboteur_Navy
    Saboteur_Navy 21 September 2022 15: 01
    0
    Everything is correct - the details are always secret
  8. dimbasic
    dimbasic 21 September 2022 15: 03
    -2
    Shoigu said in his interview - 300 thousand people. There [in a classified paragraph] we are talking about the number of up to 300 thousand people.
    -----------------------------
    those. Shoigu revealed state secrets?
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 21 September 2022 15: 21
      +4
      He did not reveal anything, rather misinformation leaked laughing
      The only question is - will there be 30 thousand or 3 million in real life? recourse
  9. yuriy55
    yuriy55 21 September 2022 15: 04
    +2
    The press secretary of the head of state, Dmitry Peskov, explained to the press that the seventh paragraph of the new regulatory act is not subject to disclosure, since it contains information of a secret nature, access to which is limited by official competence.

    Did they accept Kim Jong-un's offer?
  10. wlkw
    wlkw 21 September 2022 15: 06
    +30
    In the secret part of the "Decree on the announcement of partial mobilization in the Russian Federation" there is a clause on the mandatory mobilization of bloggers who advised the Ministry of Defense on how to properly conduct military operations in Ukraine ....
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      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 15: 39
        +1
        stop posting fake Ukrainians, they are already dispersing the Internet about these nonsense
    2. Sarboz
      Sarboz 21 September 2022 15: 20
      +8
      Quote: wlkw
      In the secret part of the "Decree on the announcement of partial mobilization in the Russian Federation" there is a clause on the mandatory mobilization of bloggers who advised the Ministry of Defense on how to properly conduct military operations in Ukraine ....

      What for! drinks
  11. JD1979
    JD1979 21 September 2022 15: 25
    +1
    Clowning as it is ... where to call? why? Do we have a war or a circus with a big top under the acronym CBO? To replenish the units of the leading databases, so, according to the statement of the most oblivious, only VOLUNTEERS should be sent there, what kind of call? For divisions in Russia? What for? were there big losses in the exercises?))) First, the geniuses of planned regroupings would have decided what we have now from the point of view of law - NWO or all the same war. Because the opposite side unequivocally answers - war. And from the point of view of common sense - what the hell is the SVO, when almost all NATO countries participate in the database, both financially and directly - planning operations, intelligence in RT, supplies of military equipment and ammunition.
    And this separate order, without changing the initial status of the actions taking place in Ukraine, shows that the Kremlin's celestials do not understand what is actually happening now.
  12. Pivasik
    Pivasik 21 September 2022 15: 31
    +2
    By birth, type, number of officers, sergeants, specialists. Deadlines for the implementation of stages, tasks of deploying resources and comprehensive support, etc. etc. Not very secret, but from the information specialists can outline starting points
    1. ada
      ada 22 September 2022 00: 16
      0
      Yes, and more precisely in terms of l / s - in terms of compositions and categories of stock based on the Proposals of the Moscow Region. Secrecy in accordance with the List of information containing state secrets subject to classification in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (departments), in the Decree - on the basis of the Federal Law "On State Secrets" and the corresponding list of information.
      1. ada
        ada 22 September 2022 01: 17
        0
        I apologize, I myself am already confused - not by "categories", but by "categories" (ages).
  13. 9PA
    9PA 21 September 2022 15: 35
    +2
    7 point concerns the armor from the draft
  14. odometer
    odometer 21 September 2022 15: 38
    +3
    I don’t know whether to cry or laugh ... The point is secret, but I’ll tell you a secret ... Some kind of surrealism ...
  15. Alexey Polferov
    Alexey Polferov 21 September 2022 15: 41
    +6
    All the golden youth to the forefront as the main beneficiaries.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 21 September 2022 15: 44
      +8
      Quote: Alexey Polferov
      All the golden youth to the forefront as the main beneficiaries.

      All golden youth in NATO countries and with citizenship of NATO countries.
      1. Alexey Polferov
        Alexey Polferov 21 September 2022 16: 15
        -1
        Shoot.
        According to the law of wartime as traitors to the motherland.
        1. Alexey Polferov
          Alexey Polferov 21 September 2022 16: 17
          -2
          let them return to their historical homeland and, like everyone else in the NWO, Did they not serve? and why?
  16. Dikson
    Dikson 21 September 2022 15: 52
    +4
    Everything is secret there, but I'll tell you .. so what? Doesn't he fall under the non-disclosure law for an hour? Did you mention the article? It is funny and sad at the same time. With the mobilization of this .. partial. You can’t be a little pregnant .. - so here .. Tomorrow there is a meeting with the Governor with the announcement of the policy for the region .. These are pies with kittens .. It’s sad, of course, that our bosses, with a clear eye, without blinking, their very own words refutes in a day .. Screwed up right away - just say so. The people don’t, they understand and support ... Otherwise, nothing will happen, we didn’t start, we did this, we did this .. We harnessed it for six months ... we missed time, the technicians burned as much .. God willing - everything will return to normal. 300 to dress, put on, teach how not to die, but to destroy the enemy .. - how much effort and time is needed for this ?! In winter, when the ground freezes, the Poles can climb .. There is a lot to do before winter ..
  17. Shtrek
    Shtrek 21 September 2022 16: 13
    +8
    ..... here they are, and two weeks ago Peskov said that there would be no mobilization ...
  18. Dikson
    Dikson 21 September 2022 16: 13
    +3
    But such a question - they write here "it is recommended to sit at home and wait for the agenda .." well, Russian Railways has already reported - "we do not restrict any transportation" .. The question is this - we now have a lot of people working on shifts .. - they are under a criminal won't get in? They are not at home where they live. No one will give them a summons somewhere at the drilling rig.
    1. TIR
      TIR 21 September 2022 18: 10
      +3
      I was handed a summons to the army. I was on watch, spring and all winter roads sailed. The only way out is by helicopter, and they urgently call me to the draft board. They even called me. Threatened that evader. How will I choose??? I am not one of the sons of high officials, no one will personally send a helicopter for me. As a result, he was on watch for 6 months, then he flew out with everyone together at the end of the watch. On the second day I went to the military registration and enlistment office. They gave me 2 days to get ready (including the day the summons was delivered). Well, I quickly let's organize the farewell. Day and night I walked and then in the morning they loaded me into a bus with conscripts
  19. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 21 September 2022 16: 28
    +2
    I believe that the item is classified for foreign policy and strategic reasons. One of the reasons why M. was dragged out, in my opinion, was a foreign policy reason - the deployment of a more or less large-scale M. in one state gives the neighboring unfriendly ones the right to mobilize the army for reasons of their security (the course of the First World War started from a similar story), from which makes the situation more complicated. And just the figures of the actual volume of M. can encourage our neighbors to make certain decisions using these figures as casus beli.
    If we are talking about 300 tons, then this is still "within the limits", but for example, an openly designated million could already be great to shake up many neighboring states with which AT THE MOMENT everything seems to be "at the very least".

    On the one hand, we are probably not very interested in mobilizing the same Poland or Georgia. On the other hand, we are interested in sending another message to the West about our determination. Concealment of real figures is generally a sound strategy (assuming that through an extensive and not always loyal bureaucracy, these figures in real form will not leak to the West).
    1. Ludmila Myshkina
      Ludmila Myshkina 21 September 2022 19: 15
      0
      for enemies, the figures for the mobilization of the Russian Guard Wagner Kazakov and others are not known anyway
  20. Tamanskiy
    Tamanskiy 21 September 2022 16: 33
    +2
    What to guess about the seventh point?
    And so everything is clear what is there.
    Schedule 1st, 2nd, 3rd wave.
    And also in the case of the use of nuclear weapons.
    Only the numbers are secret.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 21 September 2022 18: 24
      +1
      Quote: Tamanskiy
      Schedule 1st, 2nd, 3rd wave.
      And also in the case of the use of nuclear weapons.

      Most likely, you are right in terms of the LIMITED use of nuclear weapons when "obstructing" the normal course of mobilization by NATO countries.
      To be ready to use tactical nuclear weapons is already a state secret! Perhaps a "cut" is given for the military district. No wonder the Litvins brought their army to BG. The "radishes" smell death at the end of the needle. Apparently the Baltic extinctions will fuss behind them. Poland will surely buck and scream with an evil voice ...
      In short, there are big vertical races ahead. How would you not jump to BIG BAD BOOM with such agility ...
      (And life is so beautiful
      You smile and look around! (With)). fellow
  21. Ludmila Myshkina
    Ludmila Myshkina 21 September 2022 17: 58
    +1
    major specialists need to be sent to the most difficult sectors of the front
  22. Fima
    Fima 21 September 2022 18: 34
    +1
    The answer to "Nastya" in support of "Boa", Officer - this is still a vital position, there are no former ones! There is such a profession ........!
  23. ximkim
    ximkim 21 September 2022 19: 18
    0
    Campaign the second wave of mobilization will be closer to the new year.
    1. minus
      minus 21 September 2022 20: 39
      0
      A thankless task - fortune-telling) Whoever knows, he still won’t say. We must pay tribute - they quickly organized the work on the agenda. Clearly, the lists were agreed in advance. At eight in the evening local time (+4 hours to Moscow) they already received summons with a deadline of September 22.
  24. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 21 September 2022 21: 10
    +1
    The point is classified - 300000 people ...
    A friend reported.
    Has the country declared martial law?
    What is the basis for mobilization?
    No one declared war on the Russian Federation, the Russian Federation didn’t seem to declare war on anyone - the people are being mobilized for unclear reasons ...
    What the heck?... request
    1. ada
      ada 22 September 2022 00: 04
      +2
      Quote: Benzorez
      people are being mobilized for no clear reason ...

      Martial law is not required to declare mobilization.
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 23 September 2022 20: 50
        0
        Where is it written like that? Especially with the understanding that people go to the front.
        Although the front, it seems to be there, but it seems to be gone ...
        We seem to be at war, but as if not ...
        How is this to be understood?...
        Toda, I, as it were, are liable for military service, but, as it were, not.
        The plant seems to have "armor" for the personnel of the first category, but there are subpoenas ...
        Although it seems like the staff of the first category, you can’t touch it at all ...
        Bo, who will restore ships / boats to you. New to do. My fifty-year-old wife with children for a couple? ..
        She barely walks...

        Some miracles.
        Maybe it's good to rush between the hammer and the anvil? ...
        1. ada
          ada 23 September 2022 21: 17
          0
          Always known where - in FeZ:
          "Federal Law of February 26.02.1997, 31 N 14.07.2022-FZ (as amended on July XNUMX, XNUMX) "On mobilization training and mobilization in the Russian Federation"
          Article 4. Powers of the President of the Russian Federation
          1. President of the Russian Federation:
          ...
          6) in cases of aggression against the Russian Federation or an immediate threat of aggression, the outbreak of armed conflicts directed against the Russian Federation, announces general or partial mobilization with immediate notification of this to the Federation Council and the State Duma;
          ...
          8) establishes the procedure for organizing work on booking for the period of mobilization and for wartime of citizens who are in reserve and work in state authorities, local governments and organizations;
          9) grants (suspends) the right to deferment from conscription for military service for mobilization to citizens or certain categories of citizens. ..."
          As long as you are registered with the military, you are performing military duty, that is, you are liable for military service. I'm not strong in booking - not my specialty. Everyone should (must) explain to you personnel officers or employees of higher educational institutions, there are nuances there.
          On the fronts - take my word for it, the fronts are still ahead, give me the one that doesn't exist, I'm wrong.
          I, too, thought - now let's go, but no, apparently they left us in the second place.
          1. Petrol cutter
            Petrol cutter 23 September 2022 21: 33
            0
            And where is the aggression against the Russian Federation seen?
            To be honest, this is the Russian Federation, let's face it, it showed, to put it mildly, unfriendly actions towards its neighbor.
            Which, of course, I welcome. But who am I?!
            This is how it looks like in the world community...
            This must be understood, however.
            1. ada
              ada 24 September 2022 01: 45
              0
              You asked - on what grounds is the mobilization taking place?, and I, simply in view of some knowledge of the material, tried to explain to you. Notice the words of the text in the federal defense laws contained in the sections of the powers of the President: "...or an imminent threat of aggression...", that is, he has enough classified information about the threat to the country to make a decision on mobilization and issue an appropriate decree, and the more precisely, verified and timely he does this, the better. I don't think that any of the leaders of the countries of the world can do this better than GDP.
              What does this look like for the global community? I'll try to explain too. It looks like it really is - there is no world community, there are some consolidated groups of countries and separate ones, among which the West (Western countries, conditionally) claims leadership, and we - they refused "reciprocity", that is, not we give away our resources, the right to which they considered acquired and without which tomorrow they will have a choice:
              or go to war with us and take by force;
              or crawl to us on your knees.
              But the West would not have been the West if it had not gone for proximation of the aggravation of the situation by the laying countries. They want to live. At the same time, all other countries would be happy to cling to our throats along with the West, if they did not understand that they were next in line. Tomorrow will inevitably come, tomorrow some of them will have no place under the Sun and they face a choice - to join the strong or to unite the weak. Selling Ukraine, in the hope of a piece, made a choice. There are no naive people in the leadership and governments of countries, everyone understands everything perfectly, the rest is a game with a population living in complete delirium.
              And now, imagine, powerful countries, with the aim of guaranteed mastery of life-supporting resources for more than 30 years, carefully, incurring significant costs, develop military planning starting with theoretical research and development of strategies, increase military cooperation, develop the military-industrial complex, train troops, involve in the process countries bordering us, form geostrategic footholds and create the necessary military-political and socio-economic situation around, develop unprecedented pressure on the designated enemy and the culprit in everything, and when a couple of years remain before the West begins to effectively implement this planning, the Russian Federation suddenly takes and breaks this whole system, bringing the whole situation out with its demands for security, economic independence, building up strategic nuclear forces, conducting NMD at the most painful point, mobilization, referendums, attracting other countries to its side, raising the stakes to mortal danger while protecting itself. So what does it look like?
              1. Petrol cutter
                Petrol cutter 24 September 2022 19: 38
                0
                Fuck yourself! Yes, you wrote a whole article, however.
                For the most part, I agree.
                But to my great regret, on the ground things are not going at all as we would like ....
  25. iouris
    iouris 21 September 2022 21: 43
    +2
    Peskov is not a surname, Peskov is a vocation.
  26. ximkim
    ximkim 22 September 2022 03: 12
    0
    Quote: Minus
    A thankless task - fortune-telling) Whoever knows, he still won’t say. We must pay tribute - they quickly organized the work on the agenda. Clearly, the lists were agreed in advance. At eight in the evening local time (+4 hours to Moscow) they already received summons with a deadline of September 22.

    hi
    It’s not necessary to guess here. Everything goes to this.
  27. Dikson
    Dikson 22 September 2022 04: 16
    +1
    Here, a woman wrote on one site .. - her son served as expected, family, work .. - came under an order. will go again. and his friend, who excused himself from the army for nine years, will not go anywhere .. because he didn’t serve .. this is completely abnormal, I think .. Now, it can come to ridiculous - because they don’t take from the ranks of the army in the NWO, but according to the mob order, it’s easy, the rotten people are rushing to give back to the Motherland .. it’s better to serve a year behind the fence in part than in damp trenches, “until the order for demobilization” .. Such a sad trigonometry ..
  28. Losyara
    Losyara 22 September 2022 07: 26
    +1
    Guys, this should have been done 3 months ago!
  29. TEX-50
    TEX-50 22 September 2022 08: 04
    -1
    About 300 thousand, this is of course a drive, so as not to rock the boat.
  30. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 22 September 2022 09: 15
    0
    There is one of two things here: either Shoigu violated the secrecy regime, immediately after the President's speech, saying that 300 thousand people would be mobilized ... or the mustache, as usual - "is such a blizzard that it is not clear: what he is telling there and who instructed him" (quoting Putin's words)