Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu clarified plans for partial mobilization announced today

The decree "On the announcement of partial mobilization in the Russian Federation", signed by Vladimir Putin, is published on the website of legal information. Its entry into force today was announced by the president himself as part of his speech.

According to the document, only citizens who have served in the Russian army in certain military specialties and are currently in the reserve are subject to conscription. According to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, there is no talk of conscripting students and other students, and conscripts will not be sent to the NVO zone. In addition, employees of the military-industrial complex will receive a "booking".

We will call from the reserve, these are not some people who have never served. These are those who have served and have a military specialty and combat experience.

- he said.

In total, it is planned to call up 300 reserve servicemen, all those called up for military service will receive the same monetary content as contract servicemen. Mandatory additional military training is provided for, taking into account the experience of conducting a special military operation.

At the same time, for the duration of the decree on mobilization, servicemen can retire from the ranks of the Russian Armed Forces only for several reasons: reaching the age limit, health status, or in connection with deprivation of liberty by a court verdict. All contracts concluded earlier remain valid until the end of partial mobilization.

Comments

[AvesevA]

Victory will be ours! Let's liberate Donbass and Zaporozhye! Let's return Odessa!

[tihonmarine]

Quote from Avesev

Let's return Odessa!

Without Odessa NWO, it's like underbaked bread.

[Evil 55]

And yes, with the formation of SMERSH and rear guard units, it is clearly not worth pulling. hi

[dv_generalov]

I agree, but we must not forget about the ravines

[belovvladimir]

No, without all of Ukraine, all of Ukraine is completely, not a drop to the Poles, and to the exit, to Moldova!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: belovvladimir

No, without all of Ukraine, all of Ukraine is completely, not a drop to the Poles,

Well, why do you need Galicia, from it there are only problems and a headache, the Austrians talked about this, and the Poles yelled.

[Boris55]

Quote from Avesev

Victory will be ours! Let's liberate Donbass and Zaporozhye! Let's return Odessa!

Let's liberate all of Ukraine!
Block the borders for the exit of "glamour" from the country. Galkina in the trenches! Navalny - to the penal battalion!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Boris55

Galkina in the trenches!

And it is better to send to Chernokozovo.

[AAC]

Navalny - to the penal battalion!

No need. Let him sit

[Egoza]

Quote: Boris55

Block the borders for the exit of "glamour" from the country. Galkina in the trenches! Navalny - to the penal battalion!

Oh no! People like Galkin and Navalny will crap there too! As for "blocking the borders ..." First, throw all the "glamour" out of Russia, and then block the borders so that they don't crawl back in like cockroaches!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egoza

and then close the borders so that they don’t climb back like cockroaches!

And sprinkle dust, dust on cockroaches!

[Boris55]

Quote: Egoza

First, throw all the "glamour" out of Russia

With the deprivation of all titles (honored, people's), awards and citizenship of Russia ...
Too bad there is no such law.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Boris55

With the deprivation of all titles (such as honored), awards and citizenship of Russia ... it's a pity that there is no such law.

The main thing is to throw it away and not let it back in, and they have citizenships other than Russian, and so on in bulk.

[Boris55]

Quote: tihonmarine

and they have citizenships other than Russian, and so in bulk.

Why should we pay them for titles and pay pensions like citizens of Russia?
Nope. Lose, definitely.

[Colonel_Ivanov]

And what about the children of deputies, officials, oligarchs? They don't need to go to the trenches?

[Uprun]

In the overwhelming majority, they did not serve and do not have combat experience ....

[man]

In the overwhelming majority, they did not serve and do not have combat experience ....
Yes, but I am sure that they will all volunteer as one!!! just in case, smile

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Colonel_Ivanov

And what about the children of deputies, officials, oligarchs? They don't need to go to the trenches?

Stalin's two sons fought, and other leaders too, even now they take an example.

[Egoza]

Quote: tihonmarine

Stalin's two sons fought, and other leaders too, even now they take an example.

They’ll do their best to take an example from Stalin! Well this is "horrible" to send your children to the front!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egoza

They’ll do their best to take an example from Stalin! Well this is "horrible" to send your children to the front!

Not all of them are:
The son of the Deputy Governor of the Nenets Autonomous Okrug Alexander Dudorov, Georgy Dudorov, died during a special operation in Ukraine. According to the Investigative Committee of Russia, Georgy Dudorov was the deputy commander of the reconnaissance company of the Tula Airborne Division. The head of Ingushetia, Mahmud-Ali Kalimatov, in his blog announced the death of the nephew of the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation and the former head of the republic, Yunus-Bek Yevkurov, Adam Khamkhoev. Salman Suleymanov, 27-year-old nephew of the Deputy Commander of the Southern Military District Rustam Muradov, died during the special operation. By the way, Muradov himself also took part in the SVO and was wounded.

[man]

Stalin's two sons fought, and other leaders too, even now they take an example.
especially since Stalin is the idol of our oligarchs and officials

[igork735]

You are like from another reality! Stalin is the idol of oligarchs and officials? Yes, he would be the first to put them against the wall. Their idol Chubais. He ruined, plundered and quietly dumped. And no sanctions, no restrictions!

[sailor roman]

And probably receives a pension from Russia?

[man]

Stalin the idol of the oligarchs and officials? Yes, he would be the first to put them up against the wall
Oh really??? And how could I be so wrong...
To the wall for some unfortunate several trillion dollars in total ... what a bad one ... You probably mixed up, not against the wall, but would you put it in a corner? Well, the boys fooled around a little, with whom it doesn’t happen ...

[Boris55]

Quote: Colonel_Ivanov

And what about the children of deputies, officials, oligarchs? They don't need to go to the trenches?

1. I doubt that these kids served, they are called only because of the pass ..
2. And if they did, then their VUS (military registration specialty) does not meet the requirements of conscription.

[man]

And if they served, then their VUS (military registration specialty) does not meet the requirements of conscription.
Why, and military translators? They are in the majority of MGIMO students

[Egoza]

Quote: mann

Why, and military translators? They are in the majority of MGIMO students

Military translators have a different vocabulary! ))) MGIMO does not use this! ))) so they won't fit. And then they will start doing business with English-speaking mercenaries. No, there is no need for such "in translators"

[man]

Military translators have a different vocabulary! ))) MGIMO does not use this! ))) so they won't fit.
Don't worry about this. Parents will teach you, they perfectly mastered the corresponding vocabulary even in Soviet prisons. You apparently forgot about the origin of most of our "elite"

[kin]

Note that they are of a different class. They did not serve in the army and have no combat experience. It's not about them.

[Hanurik]

So this class has no right to exist. Did not deserve.

[igork735]

Of course not! They didn’t serve in the army! They’re not good. Those who honestly performed their duty will continue to pull the strap.
continue their work, career, etc.

[YarSer88]

If they are sent, then in an officer rank, how much money is enough, do you need it? It’s better to let them fall into their Spain-Maldives and not shine.
As Vysotsky sang, let the rats leave the ship, they interfere with the reckless fight

[Alexander Antonov_2]

In other words, someone's children will remain orphans, and someone will continue to suck money from Russia in the Maldives or work as a blogger.

[YarSer88]

Yes, it is true, someone is going to defend their homeland, and someone is rear rats, I don’t support this, but it’s true.
And now you have a question, are we going to win at the front, or dispose of those who are objectionable? If you win, then those who can and want to fight for their country should go there, and those who run away a little chance will present themselves, and okay, if nothing important is dragged away, it’s better to immediately send them away and not let them back.

[Alexander Antonov_2]

In the history of Russia, this situation has already been, and ended with the collapse of the empire.

[YarSer88]

Who we definitely don’t need now is the new Lenin. Are you ready to derail the country because of hundreds of other rich sons who sit out in warmer climes? Okay, they're not worth it. And the empire collapsed not at all because of this, but because of the impotence of power, and also because the people did not understand what they were fighting for and let themselves be fooled. Now the situation is fundamentally different. Well, people, I hope, have wised up. They staged two revolutions in 100 years, each time it gets worse. If we step on the same rake for the third time, well, it means that we deserve such a life, what else can I say.

[Alexander Antonov_2]

It was far from Lenin that derailed the country, the Bolsheviks only raised power, the empire began to crumble after the abdication of Nicholas and the February Revolution.
Then the people did not want to die for the straits and Tsargrad.

[YarSer88]

Well, of course, not Lenin, he did not conduct subversive activities, hammering into the heads of the townsfolk that they would throw off the tsar and immediately begin to live, that the worker should manage the factory, and not the capitalist. And cultural figures, as now, unanimously supported this subversive activity. True, now they are classics of literature, everyone loves and appreciates them, and they behaved exactly like Galkin and Makarevich, spoiled the current government and played on the weaknesses and wishes of ordinary people. And then they got what they wanted, or not, wait, when they got it, they realized that they wanted something completely different, right?
Similarly, Washington can say that it has not been involved in the Maidan for 14 years, they say themselves, we just took advantage, and in 100 years it will even work.

[Alexander Antonov_2]

It was not the Bolsheviks who overthrew the tsar, but those close to him, for example, General of the Army Alekseev, was one of the most active participants in the removal of Nicholas from power during the February Revolution. Well, Lenin was at that time in Switzerland.

[igaivoro]

It is not clear to me why you were downvoted .... The thought is correct. Personally, I would not smile at all to know that I was commanded by a major in uniform, who came to the Operation solely out of coercion and in the hope of getting a couple of medals and extraordinary stars for shoulder straps ... Just like watching a major in a trench next to him, trust him with your back. ... Yes, nope ... Let them continue to arrange orgies with champagne and other things .... Together we will finish with the outskirts, but when we return, then we will restore order here on the ground. Everything has its time. I think so.

[Stepnyak]

I'm interested in the fate of those who slid away from urgent. Once they sat behind our back. Now on the second round we will cover their orgies with champagne and girls?

[Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers]

Quote: Boris55

Close the borders for the exit of "glamour" from the country

Most likely, those who wanted to leave already: the golden youth and the children of functionaries.

[man]

Most likely, those who wanted to leave already: the golden youth and the children of functionaries.
Not quite so, the son of our main patriot Medvedev, on the contrary, left everything in America and returned to Russia! He will definitely go to war!

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Boris55

Galkina in the trenches!

This abomination should not even be allowed close to the trenches. He is also a talented parodist and imitator. Surely, he learned to pronounce the word palyanytsya correctly a long time ago ... In the first attack - splashing drool, it will rush towards the Sumerians with cries of "Brothers, I'm swine!"

[Alexey Lesogor]

Galkin will take care of an elderly family member

[Chaikovsky]

What the hell is the whole of Ukraine for us? In its western part, people hate Russia, well, they will always stick spokes in wheels, they will be internal enemies. They must be completely disarmed, deprived of their teeth, so that they yelp, but do not bite. And create an exclusion zone from this little aggressive pimple.

[Ru_Na]

Well, where are we going, they said "A", you must also say "B"!

[Sniper]

I have just one question.. Will migrants be called up?? Will the CSTO be somehow involved? how will our "allies" behave?

[Tank jacket]

If they want to obtain citizenship after 1 year of service

[Boris55]

Quote: Tank jacket

If you want to get citizenship

They want. We need a law.

[Egoza]

Quote: Boris55

They want. We need a law.

Do they really want? In my opinion, even without citizenship, they are perfectly attached to the Russian Federation.

[Flooding]

Quote: Sniper

I have just one question

actually three

Quote: Sniper

migrants will be called?

there was information about a simplified procedure for obtaining citizenship by foreigners who served in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
This means that migrants have the opportunity on a voluntary basis.

Quote: Sniper

Will the CSTO be somehow involved?

Russia is the leader and core of the CSTO.
And now she is passing a difficult exam to confirm the title of leader.

Quote: Sniper

how will our "allies" behave?

They will watch from the side until the end of the NWO.

[El Barto]

They will watch from the side until the end of the NWO.

Who how

[Flooding]

Quote: El Barto

Who how

The question was about "allies".
Belarus is not an "ally".
Belarus is a fraternal country within a union state.
Belarusians have decided in contrast to.

[Goha]

But no way. My hut is on the edge, I don't know anything.

[Colonel_Ivanov]

And I'm more interested in the question, will children, relatives of officials, be called up?

[Uprun]

Did they serve in the army or have combat experience?

[VORON538]

Colonel_Ivanov (Sergey Ivanov)
You have several almost identical comments. Didn’t they prescribe anything else in the training manual for the troll Serezha?

[Ros 56]

So let's see xy from xy and then draw conclusions.

[Uprun]

The CSTO has nothing to do with it ..... this is our NWO ...., and for the allies, an eye-yes-eye that the striped and shaved ones did not crap behind their backs ...

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Sniper

Will the CSTO be somehow involved? how will our "allies" behave?

The old man is clearly preparing, at least in words. For which, of course, respect to him ... but today Kazakhstan stopped accepting Russian payment cards Mir. What kind of military alliance can we talk about in such an attitude? So expecting something from the Kazakhs is a zero option.

[man]

how will our "allies" behave?
at best, applause

[Pravodel]

Forgot about Chernihiv - the patrimony of the book. Mstislav, brother of Yaroslav the Wise, and Kyiv - the mother of Russian cities, which must necessarily return to Russia, and which
upon returning to Russia, it will be necessary to thoroughly clean from traitors and banderlogs.

[invisible_man]

Yesterday I mentioned partial mobilization - they stuck minuses. It seems that members of the Pink Pony party hang out on this site, who still believe that the retreat near Kharkov is a victory.

[Novik225]

I wonder what kind of VUS are needed now? Artillerymen, missilemen, landing troops, marines, riflemen, tankers, communications? Who else did you forget?

[Region-25.rus]

Who else did you forget?

operators of anti-aircraft missiles, MANPADS, ATGMs, engineering and sapper specialists, intelligence officers, specialists in servicing various equipment, etc. ....

[Marine63]

I think it probably won't do without secrets either.

[Postcode]

210000 with categories, the most scarce

[Blacksmith 55]

The chef has been forgotten. And the medical staff.
In general, a lot of people are needed.
I think the experts know better.

[Gpn27]

I heard from friends that shooters, car drivers, mechanics are needed.

[NKT]

Artillerymen, missilemen, landing troops, marines, riflemen, tankers, communications? Who else did you forget?

also VUS for the rear of the aircraft

[novel66]

Infantry ... We need a lot of infantry, especially infantry

[AleksT]

Quote: novel xnumx

Infantry ... We need a lot of infantry, especially infantry

no, we need drones, a lot of drones

[novel66]

You can’t call them, money is needed, a lot of money

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: novel xnumx

need money, lots of money

Lots of money - again they return the "budget rule", this is when all the money for oil above $ 40 per barrel will be stored in an incomprehensible place for unclear purposes. Apparently, until the next robbery of Uncle Sam and the EU, so that later we could lament again: “How is that possible? we know why."

[Ros 56]

The most important thing, a man with a ladle, because without him it's a bad thing. Everyone wants to eat, even generals. Well, and other servants, it seems not to be compared with the special forces, but without them at least hang yourself.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Ros 56

a peasant with a scoop, because without him it's a bad thing. Everyone wants to eat, even generals.

Generals are closer to a man with skewers ...

[frog]

Normal officers, starting with the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff. First of all. But here Schrödinger's cat is waving its paw .....

[Lykases1]

Physicians, of course. After the training camp, I was agitated for a long time. That mob. reserve, then contract. Well, I'm waiting for the agenda. But, of course, you need to go through training, at least a month, a lot has changed. And he didn’t work in his specialty for 20 years.

[pharmacist]

Well, everything is logical. Anyhow, someone on the front line is not needed, but the number of contingents must be increased. It's time to get serious!

[opposite28]

We will call from the reserve, these are not some people who have never served. These are those who have served and have a military specialty and combat experience.

Such a development of events was to be expected.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: oppozite28

Such a development of events was to be expected.

Long expected, but too long. Six months earlier, less blood would have been shed.
Then these 300 thousand would be enough to achieve the desired result, but now, I'm afraid, this figure will have to be doubled after some time.

[Uprun]

Who has already spread panic at the VO about the monetary allowance of the mobilized ..... No need to run forward slippers ...., all explanations will come ...., but a little later .... The VUS of the mobilized also matters ...., submarine sailors, in my opinion, will be in demand last ...

[Vasily Onischuk]

As for monetary allowance, they have already said clearly that they will pay like contract soldiers.

[Postcode]

you are mistaken .... the military registration and enlistment offices need to fulfill the plan within a specific timeframe, the story that he served as an acoustician will be interesting for 30 seconds, then they will say, uncle, the country needs infantry, body armor and a helmet on the right around the corner, in a month we will show you which side the machine shoots) )

[AAC]

I agree. In the 90s, the guy worked as an electrician, was called up, became a sapper in training, and in part a driver. Whoever they could pick up, they will take away, and they will put them where there is not enough.

[Uprun]

And turn the lamb? Did they give him a driver's license too? Well, I’m not so interested ...., you can drive a campaign in the army without a license in a car .... You can continue to disperse nonsense ....

[AAC]

He had a "B" license. I can give many such examples. A comrade on a contract in Tajikistan became a machine gunner according to the Higher School of Law in order to receive 200 rubles more. I removed the KPVT from an armored personnel carrier twice. Said he didn't want to be a machine gunner anymore... but the tape remained.
And the moral of this fable, who the commander needs, at best, will appoint a more suitable one.

[Stepnyak]

Is not a fact. I know how our company commander sorted recruits in 2000.
-Who are you?
-Sailor.
-Job title?
-Torpedist.
Have you seen the sniper rifle?
-not
- Bring him the SVD. Well, now you see?
-I see.
- Sign here and go to the unit.

[isv000]

So the hour "X" has come ... People are needed in battle ... When will the lights be turned off??? When will the gas pipeline get up for "repair" ?! Again, all to the front, all for victory?! Infrastructure Zalezhalay will continue to haul rubbish on electric traction, and my son will put on epaulettes again .......................

[Quote Lavrov]

300 thousand, I think, should be precisely the first wave of mobilized. It is especially important that the orgyadro be included in this list. Unfortunately, this number will not be enough for the liberation of the whole of Ukraine. Now work will begin (serious difficulties) to remove equipment from storage from the BKhVT, to provide, train, and combat coordination. After a certain time, when this system will work like a clock, it is definitely necessary to mobilize a much larger number

[Uprun]

Well, Nata will not stand aside ...., they will also begin to supply regular troops under the guise of mercenary units and mobilized blacks from the Westerners .... The campaign will be a fight for an adult .... we will see Polish tank crews, Romanian pilots and other evil spirits .. .

[Ludmila Myshkina]

in in in. the strongest army is Romanian. in the Second World War with Hitler, she reached Moscow. with Stalin to Berlin. Russian winter to help. and it seems she will come soon

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Lyudmila Myshkina

in in in in. the strongest army is Romanian.

Just don't think that these are whipping boys. At one time, Manstein assessed the Romanians as a fully combat-ready army. He noted that their troubles were from a lack of anti-tank weapons.
And during the storming of Budapest, the Romanians showed themselves well, they helped the Red Army.
In general, the army fights the way it has officers, how it is trained, what weapons and supplies it has.
For example, in the 1st World War, a seemingly second-rate Turkish army, but under the leadership of German officers, in the Dardanelles operation, did not spoil the British at all - 135 thousand were only killed.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

you don't understand the irony. wait, it will be seen who else will take the side of Russia.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Lyudmila Myshkina

you don't understand the irony. wait, it will be seen who else will take the side of Russia.

You are right, today somehow it does not pull on humor.
And I'm right - in order for the Romanians to change their shoes this time, you need to reset Ukraine, pile on the Germans-English-French. And then, to force the capitulation of the United States. Do you think this course of events is likely?
To me, with the exception of Ukraine, and even then with great difficulty and not very quickly, the plot seems fantastic.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

that's why the winter will be long. and obviously not one wave of MB will roll. everything could have been decided back in the 14th year. then Russia stopped to send troops not because of sanctions. and if a legitimate president turned to the authorities. well, you understand what I mean. I am now listening to the arguments that they overthrew the president for whom they voted. becomes, to put it mildly, unpleasant. I remember how "flattering" even the inhabitants of Donbass responded. and then at 14, everything could be done very quickly. to the Polish-Romanian borders. and with little blood. and then choose who you want

[region58]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

In my time

"We don't care, Your Majesty, on whose side Romania enters the war. If on ours, it will take 10 divisions to save it from defeat. If against us, the same 10 divisions will be needed to defeat it" (C) Moltke Jr. .

[Tank jacket]

Quote from uprun

Well, Nata will not stand aside ...., they will also begin to supply regular troops under the guise of mercenary units and mobilized blacks from the Westerners .... The campaign will be a fight for an adult .... we will see Polish tank crews, Romanian pilots and other evil spirits .. .

Didn't they exist before that?
Are you a bot?

[Uprun]

Is there infa that the Romanian pilots were shot down? Bot, not a bot - matrikula ....

[Tank jacket]

And who manages Himmars? Really Benederites?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote from uprun

Is there infa that the Romanian pilots were shot down?

Will you be able to determine nationality from the charred remains without documents?

[AAC]

They already are. Everyone, as usual, cannot read between the lines. In Poland and the Baltic states, a bunch of military people from NATO countries and sympathizers have accumulated. Everyone is waiting for the green whistle. A month to study? This is both a lot and a little. A lot because they will only show in which direction the machine shoots. Little because we seem to be a little late.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote from uprun

Campaign fight will be like an adult .... we will see Polish tank crews, Romanian pilots and other evil spirits ...

This is already there. Just the number will increase dramatically, yes.

[victor50]

And what about the urgent workers now? They're not prepared, are they? Will they be cooked? It turns out that those who served a year and are in the reserve can be sent to war, and now the employees are fired? Didn't the Commander-in-Chief say anything about increasing the service life? And those who "sloped" will not be called? Will others take the rap for them, those who honestly served and even fought?

[Silhouette]

Conscripts will be given the opportunity to conclude a contract, whoever does not want to use it will be mobilized at the end of the conscription period.

[victor50]

Quote: Silhouette

Conscripts will be given the opportunity to conclude a contract, whoever does not want to use it will be mobilized at the end of the conscription period.

You think so? Or KNOW? In any case, some kind of complex system. Wouldn't it be easier to increase the service life and, say, seriously train fighters for a year so that they would be specialists in the second year?

[Postcode]

Everything is simple with current military servicemen, at the end of the service, the necessary military personnel will be immediately mobilized, an appropriate contract will be signed with them and sent to the front.

[AdAstra]

So mobilized or signed a contract is a little different thing.

[Nastia makarova]

mobs will be paid the same as contractors

[AdAstra]

I'm not talking about it, not about payment. And what is this disparaging "mobiki"?

[Nastia makarova]

there is no name-calling here, that’s what they call themselves in the LDNR who fell under mobilization

[Postcode]

Mobilization contract, which will indicate the obligations of the parties

[AdAstra]

Mobilization contract - hanged however.

[Postcode]

Yes, call it whatever you like, a contract for active military service, a contract for combat operations ... does it change the meaning much?

[rocket757]

Decree "On the announcement of partial mobilization in the Russian Federation",

. So we’re going to war, we’re still going, albeit to a limited extent!
And now the questions ... although, we will postpone this for later, because ... in general, later, if there is such a need!

[Nix1986]

Again, interest about a moratorium on payments on loans and other things, monetary allowance and reinstatement in the same job without worsening conditions. Without this, people will be "baited" ((.

[Quote Lavrov]

Martial law has not been declared, which means there are no grounds for force majeure. We will simultaneously fight and pay off the mortgage)))
To whom is war, and to whom ...

[Nix1986]

I pay the mortgage for the family, as well as buy my mother's medicines and pay for the treatment. I don't mind being drafted, but while I'm "sucking" for the state there, it also allows the bank to throw my family out on the street until I can pay the mortgage?! No guys, you can downvote, but the interests of the family are closer to me than birches and rivers. If you have already begun to make changes to the legal field, then for those called upon, introduce a moratorium on all payments on loans and executive lists, otherwise these are two chairs, you will still have to choose one.

[Nastia makarova]

mobs will be paid the same as contractors

[Stils]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

mobs will be paid the same as contractors

Mortgages, like income, are different for everyone. Why did you decide that the salary of a contractor is enough for any mortgage?

[Nastia makarova]

200 thousand per month is a lot, are there really many people who pay such an amount per month?

[Postcode]

Everything has already been introduced, for all categories, and in the event of death or complete disability, the state extinguishes the mortgage debt.

[NKT]

The state can quite afford to pay off all credit obligations to the mobilized person, so that he does not worry about "his rear."

[kostik1301]

It is necessary to liberate the whole of Ukraine!!!!!!!

[Sibguest]

On a chat in YouTube, the raguli are already going to shit - listening to our President. Reminiscent of a pig squeal - loud with fear.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sibguest

Reminiscent of a pig squeal - loud with fear.

In the pigsty, the pigs are always squealing, starting alone, and then all squealing. Pigs can always smell when they are being slaughtered.

[CzechGuy]

Fear? Not. A lot of people do not believe in successful mobilization in these conditions. It will be, of course, classified, but I would like to see this with my own eyes.

[tihonmarine]

Quote from CzechGuy

believe in successful mobilization

I am believing in successful russian mobilization. "Nazism, No pasaran!!!"

[Postcode]

Laboratory chemist with vision - 3 in both eyes?)))

[lopvlad]

At the same time, for the duration of the decree on mobilization, servicemen can retire from the ranks of the Russian Armed Forces only for several reasons: reaching the age limit, health status, or in connection with deprivation of liberty by a court verdict. All contracts concluded earlier remain valid until the end of partial mobilization.

this is the main and main reason for the recent laws, otherwise after the announcement of the SVO there were enough of those who filed reports for dismissal and, in fact, refused to fight. Now this will not work.

[Michael]

Pyaterochka Guards Battalion! - Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!!!
Sales Manager Division! - Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!!!

[Knell wardenheart]

In short, Strelkov is now laughing at everyone who laughed at him.
In what Shoigu said, the most remarkable thing is the indicated loss figures. He outlined the losses of Ukraine approx. 100t. people, ours indicated as approx. 6t. person (killed). I took the information from the Yandex news feed.

[Vasily Onischuk]

So he announced the figures of the Ministry of Defense. Without the DPR, LPR, volunteers, the National Guard, because it is a different department and does not obey it.

[Knell wardenheart]

These are the first numbers since March. This is remarkable. And so everything is clear in terms of specifics ..

[Mitia68]

Yes, a slightly surprising ratio of enemy and our losses - 16:1!

For example, even with the defeat of the Kwantung Army in the Far East in 1945, there was a loss ratio of only 84 to 12 (7:1).

[fiberboard]

Yep, that's it, it's started! Sergey Kuzhugetovich forgot to mention the huge forces of migrants. Here's who to pick first. They have experience in conducting and combat operations in the Caucasus and Central Asia. And very militant - remember how they behaved during the Karabakh war.

[Eva Star]

Mobilization is the right decision. But without a change in strategy in Ukraine, this will be useless. We need to start systematically removing electricity, gas, communications. We need to escalate the war.

[vvn_vl]

it's a shame, but the business won't allow it... and so - it should have been from the very beginning

[Marine engineer]

The next decree should be about the mobilization of industry, I hope that it will not have to wait another seven months.

[jaroff]

Mandatory martial law and curfew

[vvn_vl]

Did he understand what he was reading? Or does he not need it?

[lopvlad]

In total, it is planned to call up 300 reserve servicemen.

according to a small figure, you can safely download it will be specialists for managing complex equipment and specialists for assault units.
Taking into account the fact that before that the army grouping of the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine did not exceed 150 thousand people, then an increase in it immediately by 300 thousand is more than a serious replenishment.

[Saboteur_Navy]

300 thousand? These are 3 full-fledged shock corps can be formed ...
If only the main command could be identified and covered with Topol with a concrete-piercing head, it’s a pity that the General Staff is hiding in the Kiev metro, apparently at the busiest station, I hope since the times of the USSR we have a scheme of branches from the station for military purposes?

[Serafim]

Flooding the metro with water from the Dnieper, or the Kuev sewer, and the job will be partially done.

[impostor]

Plus 137 thousand due to the earlier decision to increase the number of double basses

[Heaven]

300 will go for a start. It is more unlikely that it will be possible to simultaneously prepare and provide all the necessary weapons. When these 000 are at the front, it will be possible to launch a second wave of 300. And so in stages. Until they reach the Polish border.

You need a lot of equipment for new parts. Lots of outfits. Lots of transport. There's a lot more. It is unlikely that there are so many in stock. In parallel with mobilization, it is necessary to transfer the economy to a military footing. It must produce thousands of tanks, thousands of guns, armored vehicles, hundreds of aircraft every month. We need a bulk purchase of drones, thermal imagers and other things that we cannot produce ourselves abroad. In general, the whole country should put aside everything else to work for victory.

[your vsr 66-67]

I think so. 2022 is not 1941, and GDP is not a temporary detention center!

[kuztoday]

How many years will they go to Poland, if they can’t drive away the freaks from the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Donetsk? Weird. What Poland. If only the DPR was released. 7 months and nothing really has been done for Donetsk.

[alex-defensor]

It is necessary not only to announce partial mobilization for those liable for military service (having army or even military experience). It is necessary to announce the collection of volunteers for the courses of a young fighter, and this is at least 6 months of training, and preferably 8 months. A lot of people don't have any training...

[Dmitry Karabanov]

Yes, they will put me in the VO - but the order for a frequent mob. shows the complete failure of strategic planning in our General Staff. "Plan A": the initial bet on the "meeting with flowers" in February - failure, withdrawal of troops, staged "bucha" = support from the West. Further, according to "Plan B", we are betting on the NVO regime and an extremely limited contingent - we are giving the Ukroreich a much-needed respite, the supply of heavy weapons, the flow of mercenaries and NATO instructors. As a result, we get the Kharkov "regrouping" - the loss of equipment, ammunition, fuel, territories and the trust of the local population. Now, apparently, the time has come for "Plan B" - with partial mobilization and, perhaps, even a partial transfer of the economy to "military rails." I hope that real commanders from the front will now come to the General Staff (I remind you that K. Rokossovsky was wounded on the front line, and not in a Moscow cafe). So, without a change in the overall strategy of the NWO (and maybe even a full-fledged war), the front will continue to be bombarded with personnel. In this case, the mobilized will only make it possible to rotate the guys from the front line, and, well, saturate the LBS with absolutely “holes” (like Ozerny). So, in the best case, we will get parity with the enemy - and in such conditions there can be no talk of active offensive operations, because. Ukroreich will drive more "meat" (they have plenty of this stuff). Thus, again, the question arises about the Supreme Commander-in-Chief - is he able to radically revise the strategy of warfare? If we see attacks on tunnels, bridges, overpasses, draft and distribution substations, compressor and gas distribution stations, fuel depots, large enterprises - then yes, there is a possibility of shifts in the military campaign. If "goodwill gestures", "regroupings" and "trampling" in one place continue, then we must prepare for years (or even decades) of sluggish hostilities on the Ukrainian front. Who doubts - there is an example of Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention the Arab-Israeli conflict.

[Asad]

You are right in saying that the only thing we can do financially is that the budget quickly became in deficit.

[Mitia68]

You seem to be very careless. Please listen to the president's speech and finally find out our "unchanging" goals for the NWO:

In this regard, the decision on a pre-emptive military operation was absolutely necessary and the only possible one. Its main goals - the liberation of the entire territory of Donbass - have been and remain unchanged.

That is, from the very beginning, the MAIN speech was about the "liberation of Donbass"! This is our plan A, B, C and all subsequent.
But about such goals as "taking Kyiv" or "demilitarization" or "denazification" - not a word in the speech!
For the release, 300 thousand is enough, they know how to count in the Moscow Region.

[Alexander Antonov_2]

All the same, it’s strange, Shoigu says on TV, they say we know that 15 military experts from the west are sitting at the headquarters in Kyiv. Why is there no dagger strike on this headquarters, but there is mobilization?

[Vincent price]

The tradition is observed, once in a hundred years Russia is at war with Europe.

[impostor]

This time the tradition will be broken, as the elves will not be able to sit out behind the puddle

[Luminman]

The tradition is observed, once in a hundred years Russia is at war with Europe

Durkaina is not Europe ...

[Mitia68]

And you, apparently, agree with the thesis "Ukraine is Europe"?

[Archivist Vasya]

Waiting for the comrades! This was expected, well, let's see how long the agenda will come.

[faterdom]

It's a bit puzzling that 300000 is one percent of our mobile resource...
This is, God forbid, if 10 percent of the mobile resource prepared at least somehow, unless, of course, China is taken into account.
I think that we don’t actually have 30 million healthy men of military age, not to mention those with higher educational institutions, and even more so corresponding to these higher educational institutions.
Let's hope that this is a slip of the tongue, and we won't tell each other tales upstairs anymore, we need to approach the matter more soberly.

[Private SA]

Quote: Novik225

I wonder what kind of VUS are needed now? Artillerymen, missilemen, landing troops, marines, riflemen, tankers, communications? Who else did you forget?

VUS 475786. Senior mechanic-telephone operator of the hardware communication classification.
But for health reasons, I won't go. Although the Military ID indicating
I looked through the machine number (AK-74 No. 952375).
Worse, I have a soldier's ticket of my grandfather, who was called up in February 1942 at the age of
for 50 years, indicating the number of his "Nagant" is stored.

[Luminman]

Quote: Boris55

Galkina in the trenches!

Galkin - to the Siberian camp. Forest felling or mining. Approach the end of SVO ...

[AleksT]

Finally, couch warriors will have the opportunity to fight for real.

[Uprun]

As I understand it .... I didn’t serve, they won’t be called up, hence such sarcasm .....

[Mobik]

Isn't it too late to drink Borjomi? The framed units were the first to be cut during Serdyukov's reforms, which means that new formations will be created in an open field. So in the best case, they will be ready by spring. And until spring, mobs make up for losses in the warring units. Well, yes ... 500 will probably be the first to be mobilized.

[gromit]

But it’s interesting, by all indications, in the forefront they will mobilize those who broke the contract not wanting to fight))

[Mitia68]

Along the way, our goals (as always "unchanging") in Ukraine have finally become clear. Quote from the President's speech:

In this regard, the decision on a pre-emptive military operation was absolutely necessary and the only possible one. Its main goals - the liberation of the entire territory of Donbass - have been and remain unchanged.

[former soldier]

Quote: oppozite28

We will call from the reserve, these are not some people who have never served. These are those who have served and have a military specialty and combat experience.

Such a development of events was to be expected.

Past the Chechen campaign 2000-2003,
Past Georgian campaign, 2008
past the Syrian campaign. 2014----
Past Ukrainian campaign 2014-2021
PMCs from Africa must be pulled out.

[jaroff]

These 300 must be collected, prepared, and only then into battle. It turns out not earlier than the end of December. Best case scenario. And we fight every day. It turns out that now it is necessary to bring in fresh forces, transferring them from districts that covered other directions. Conditionally from the Chinese border

[PValery53]

Partial mobilization in Russia will become a complete "grave" for Bandera Ukraine.

[Herman 4223]

Still, the mobilization of the military-industrial complex should be carried out so that everything is in abundance!

[Incvizitor]

But will they be able to provide these people with uniforms for the winter, equipment, if there are not even normal first-aid kits for those who participated before? Or will they fight in old padded jackets in hats?

[composite]

and this is no longer important: the main thing is that the people shaved what they say. we will repeat.

[Old Doctor]

I'm not a strategist, not a politician. But I decided to look in the book of B.M. Shaposhnikov "The Brain of the Army" - what an outstanding military theorist wrote about mobilization. I really read the original source, no doubt. The omniscient Internet has this book. True, it was written almost 100 years ago. Maybe something has changed now? I ask really knowledgeable people to clarify.

1) "Mobilization is not only a sign of war, but also war itself. The government's order for mobilization is an actual declaration of war."
War, not a special military operation!

2) "In modern conditions, the mobilizing state must make a firm decision in advance on the conduct of the war."
Was the government of the Russian Federation made a decision on war in advance? I don't know and I can't know.

3) "We consider only general mobilization as an expedient form of mobilization, as the exertion of all the forces and means necessary to achieve victory."

General mobilization is needed, not partial. So thought the Marshal of the Soviet Union. And general mobilization is not only the drafting of servicemen from the reserve into the Armed Forces. These are all the forces of the state, industry, agriculture, transport, etc. must solve the problem of winning the war. I remember a poster from the time of the Civil War in Russia with a slogan, I remember from childhood, from the "Children's Encyclopedia", published more than 60 years ago. "Victory is forged in the workshops, rolls along the rails and ends at the front with a bayonet strike." Well, how not to remember the slogan of the Great Patriotic War! "Everything for the front, everything for victory!"

[NERV]

Quote from uprun

In the overwhelming majority, they did not serve and do not have combat experience ....

Peskov's son served after his release - an ideal candidate

[NERV]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

Waiting for the comrades! This was expected, well, let's see how long the agenda will come.

you don’t have to wait for the agenda at home - go outside, they are waiting for you there

[Kuziming]

Quote from invisible_man

Yesterday I mentioned partial mobilization - they stuck minuses. It seems that members of the Pink Pony party hang out on this site, who still believe that the retreat near Kharkov is a victory.

I didn't downvote, but I understand people.
Before calling, you need to prepare weapons and equipment.
And here, first we recruit people, and then through the lip we admit that there are not enough best weapons in the world.
And it should be the other way around. First, factories, warehouses, reconnaissance equipment, and then mobilization.

[Alexander Antonov_2]

They plan for a month in training, and then to the front
https://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/2022/09/21/18620101.shtml

[vadivm59]

and for how long will they mobilize? until the end of the database or what?

[Ludmila Myshkina]

on the case and efficiently from Strelkov (Girkin) I.I.

[Stils]

Military registration and enlistment office workers will turn into billionaire oligarchs

[Down]

[quote=Egoza]Oh, no need! People like Galkin and Navalny will do shit there too! As for “blocking the borders...” First, throw all the “glamor” out of Russia, and then close the borders so that they don’t come back like cockroaches![/quote
It’s very strange, in times of low victories, they threw out the bourgeoisie, but on the contrary they invited Tolstoy and Chaliapin, apparently in the modern world priorities have changed, however...

[Down]

Quote: Boris55

Why should we pay them for titles and pay pensions like citizens of Russia?
Nope. Lose, definitely.

Exactly, rather than mentioning our pensions to the derision of the whole world, it is better not to pay them and not to mention them.

[Down]

Quote: Colonel_Ivanov

And what about the children of deputies, officials, oligarchs? They don't need to go to the trenches?

Well, why are you treating them like that...A State Duma deputy called going to the front “the easiest decision”

[Down]

Quote: YarSer88

The one we definitely don’t need now is the new Lenin. Are you ready to derail the country because of hundreds of other rich sons who will sit out in warmer climes? Well, really, they're not worth it. And the empire collapsed not because of this, but because of the impotence of power, and also because the people did not understand why they were fighting and allowed themselves to be fooled. Now the situation is fundamentally different. Well, people, I hope, have become wiser.

Now the situation is different, more well-fed, not all the achievements of the Bolsheviks have yet been destroyed, but in Lenin’s time people went to their death, realizing that it was impossible to live the way they were living and it was impossible to repeat or force them to die, they could only be brought to such a state. Impotence of power? It was Nikolashka who was the leader of the nation or Kerensky, whom no one was going to defend because of his vile actions, not even the nobles and bourgeoisie. Oh yes, the people didn’t know about this, they knew very well about the execution of the Jew Ginsburg at the mines of Russian workers. Times are different today, in Nizhny the president announced the centuries-old interethnic friendship of the peoples of Russia, can you name the great scientists of the tsarist era, of Jewish origin? Or they were not there, due to the defeat of their rights, like many other peoples and nations of the tsarist empire, which even contemporaries called a prison of nations. People don’t get smarter, they experience or remember what is or was, this is called historical memory. Now the hangman Kolchak has become a national hero, but for some reason the relatives of the Russian workers shot and hanged on his orders did not think so, they were stupid and did not understand, He’s a polar explorer and generally a brave person, he can.... But you’re touching Lenin in vain, there’s one Civil War combined with a war with all the most developed capitals. countries of that time, what it was worth. Conditions. you are right, it’s not even worth comparing with the current ones, and the GOERLO plan, and the implementation of the latter at that time and in those conditions, was more serious than many events of a later time. Yes, we don't need such people. The priorities under capitalism are different.

[Altmann]

This is the hope of finally finishing the campaign and starting the war. We are talking about the survival of the Russian Federation, we are talking about the survival of the Slavs as a separate race (I am also a Slav). You must show the world that a Russian soldier is a brave man or woman. I'm with you.

[Bogalex]

It's only the beginning!
The Decree contains a wonderful phrase about the conditions for terminating contracts for military service:
"c) in connection with the entry into force of a court verdict imposing a sentence of imprisonment."
Do you think this phrase will help prevent an increase in crimes in the army such as theft (looting), causing harm to health through negligence, anti-government agitation and everything else for which you can get a prison term for “little things”?

[Bogalex]

According to the document, only citizens who have served in the Russian army in certain military specialties and are currently in the reserve are subject to conscription

Author's fantasies. There is not a single word about this in the Decree.