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President announced partial mobilization in Russia

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President announced partial mobilization in Russia

During an address to the people, Russian President Vladimir Putin made a statement that a decree on partial mobilization had been adopted. According to the head of state, partial mobilization in the Russian Federation begins today, on September 21. Putin instructed officials to provide all necessary assistance to the military commissariats.


The head of state said that the mobilization will affect people who are in the reserve of the Russian Armed Forces and who have relevant experience. At the same time, priority will be given to Russians with certain military specialties.

Putin:

Our independence and freedom will be ensured by all available means. Who is blackmailing us with nuclear weapons, it is worth saying that the wind rose can turn in their direction.

According to the President, Russia unequivocally supports the holding of referendums in the Donbass and the territories of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, since people in these territories are subjected to real terror from Kyiv, behind which stands the entire North Atlantic military bloc.

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  1. Maz
    Maz 21 September 2022 09: 18
    +97
    What we all expected has begun, forward Russia! There is nowhere to retreat, or we them, or they us. Victory begins with Faith in it. Our cause is just and victory will be ours! Respect for VVP and his team. If only the rear did not let us down.
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 21 September 2022 09: 25
      +87
      Our cause is just and victory will be ours!

      I expected such a decision, but still, unexpectedly! Good luck and courage to all of us!
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 09: 33
        +51
        I expected such a decision, but still, unexpectedly! Good luck and courage to all of us!
        Interestingly, the minusers will become pluses. Back in April, he wrote that mobilization was inevitable. They downvoted it so badly. And common sense replaces the minusers with jingoism?
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 21 September 2022 09: 39
          +27
          Interestingly, the minusers will become pluses.

          No, they won't. Moreover, a contingent from the square pulled up here. In these cases, you need to look at the number of fugitives from mobilization. It will be a real picture of who is who.
          1. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 21 September 2022 09: 50
            +35
            It will be a real picture of who is who.
            I agree. Many jingoistic patriots will run to "warm places"! I don't need to run. Although the age is limiting, but if they call, I will go. RKhBZ are always needed.
            1. dauria
              dauria 21 September 2022 10: 09
              +40
              Although the age is limiting, but if they call, I will go

              I hope the authorities have thought it through. All the "mechanics" of this case. From where the military commissar will look for "their" wards before the family of the draftee feeds himself and earns money for the rent. Yes, prices will need to be adjusted. And then the peasant in the trench, and the taxi driver, banker and store owner will take the foam from his "works" from his family.
              Everything, so everything. Tax should be introduced on this business. Yes, serious, not cheap. And progressive. And the exit over the hillock still "the day before yesterday" had to be blocked by everyone. What would not happen later - "I returned here from Thailand, but what about you, was there a war? Didn't know"
              1. Akuzenka
                Akuzenka 21 September 2022 10: 18
                +23
                I hope the authorities have thought it through. All the "mechanics" of this case. From where the military commissar will look for "their" wards before the family of the draftee feeds himself and earns money for the rent. Yes, prices will need to be adjusted. And then the peasant in the trench, and the taxi driver, banker and store owner will take the foam from his "works" from his family.
                Everything, so everything. Tax should be introduced on this business. Yes, serious, not cheap. And progressive. .
                Honestly, I don't even think it's possible. The mobilization mechanism is well thought out, but the family survival mechanism is not. Not a single capitalist state stoops to such a level. And we also have liberals in power who believe that those who do not fit into the market should die.
                1. silberwolf88
                  silberwolf88 21 September 2022 10: 35
                  +14
                  dear, why are you so sad ... a cash certificate for the family of a mobilized (and consider this a contract soldier in a war zone) will be ... but apparently you are not aware of this ... and this is one of the aspects of mobilization and has been worked out for a long time ... well, of course, if you are a 25-year-old banker, you will not be compensated for your company package
                  1. Akuzenka
                    Akuzenka 21 September 2022 10: 40
                    +5
                    Hmm, I wish I was 25 years old. But I never dreamed of being a banker. If the family lives at the limit of expenses, and the monetary allowance in the army does not cover even half of what is needed (I won’t even write about inflation and deficit), then is this a reason for optimism? Here, either introduce cards (which is very likely), or freeze prices, but then the black market will flourish and it will be the same.
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                      2. Corrosion inhibitor
                        Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 13: 31
                        -4
                        Thank you, and that's it, Mr. Deficit.
                      3. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 13: 52
                        -4
                        Thank you, and that's it, Mr. Deficit.
                        Eat, mister.
                    2. sniperino
                      sniperino 21 September 2022 13: 31
                      0
                      Quote: AKuzenka
                      the monetary allowance in the army will not cover even half of what is needed (I won’t even write about inflation and deficit), is this a reason for optimism?
                      If your family does not have enough earnings of a contract soldier in the war zone during your absence ("does not even cover the necessary half"), then you do not live in poverty at all; in the USSR, with whom you reproach today's Russia all the time, you would never have dreamed of such a thing. In short, there was no mobilization - "we are playing, everything is lost," they announced - "we are at war, everything is lost."
                      1. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 13: 42
                        0
                        If your family does not have enough earnings of a contract soldier in the war zone during your absence ("does not even cover the necessary half"), then you do not live in poverty at all; in the USSR, with whom you reproach today's Russia all the time, you would never have dreamed of such a thing.
                        Of course not poor, three jobs, a little above poverty with all payments.
                      2. sniperino
                        sniperino 21 September 2022 13: 58
                        +3
                        Quote: AKuzenka
                        Of course not poor, three jobs, a little above poverty with all payments.
                        Judging by your participation in the forum, do you have one of the three works here? Or work without stress at all, but even 3 minimum wages are "slightly higher than poverty" ... Ek, you turned down!
                      3. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 14: 02
                        -4
                        Judging by your participation in the forum, do you have one of the three works here? Or stress-free work.
                        Ahahaha. Yes, you are a joker. I don't get paid for this kind of work. And I would like to. Today, all the managers have been dumped, there is no one to "lead", so there is free time. And the topic is poignant. But you don’t believe me, I don’t believe you either with 200-300 thousand rubles.
                      4. sniperino
                        sniperino 21 September 2022 16: 07
                        -4
                        Quote: AKuzenka
                        Judging by your participation in the forum, do you have one of the three works here? ...
                        Ahahaha. Yes, you are a joker.
                        Not at all. At least one.
                        Quote: AKuzenka
                        I don't get paid for this kind of work. And I would like to.
                        Not for me. On the contrary, free work for the benefit of society for a pensioner is a reason for self-respect. Besides, I like to argue.
                        Quote: AKuzenka
                        But you don’t believe me, I don’t believe you either with 200-300 thousand rubles.
                        This is not for me. Pension - 15 thousand + odd jobs, but I don’t know about 200-300, but I understand that a contract soldier in a war zone deserves an order of magnitude or even more. I'm here on slabone kayfuyu from self-respect, and at this time he pulls the strap.
                    3. bayard
                      bayard 21 September 2022 13: 51
                      +6
                      Quote: AKuzenka
                      If the family lives at the limit of expenses, and the monetary allowance in the army does not cover even half of what is needed (I won’t even write about inflation and deficit), then is this a reason for optimism?

                      Haven't you heard that a contract will be signed during mobilization? And under the contract in the database zone, now an ordinary person receives about 200 - 300 thousand rubles. Even half of this amount is quite enough to support a family.
                      But of course it is necessary to regulate prices, in order to change the legislation are introduced.
                      1. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 13: 55
                        -2
                        Haven't you heard that a contract will be signed during mobilization? And under the contract in the database zone, now an ordinary person receives about 200 - 300 thousand rubles. Even half of this amount is quite enough to support a family.
                        But of course it is necessary to regulate prices, in order to change the legislation are introduced.
                        No, I haven't heard that. Well, if so. If there are 200-300 thousand .. then I will call with a calm soul. But, to be honest, I do not believe in such goodness. Although I really want to be wrong.
                      2. bayard
                        bayard 21 September 2022 14: 21
                        +5
                        Quote: AKuzenka
                        If there are 200-300 thousand .. then I will call with a calm soul. But, to be honest, I do not believe in such goodness.

                        Even here in the Donbass, SMS mailing lists call for service under a contract with a salary of 250-300 thousand. They came several times myself. So much before only "Wagner" paid.
                        But it is in the database zone. Outside the zone less, but more than 100 thousand for sure.
                      3. g1v2
                        g1v2 21 September 2022 15: 25
                        +2
                        A month ago, there were 170 for a private in the rear, plus 40 for each badge. Combat - from 400 thousand and, again, a plus for each tag.
                      4. bayard
                        bayard 21 September 2022 17: 17
                        +1
                        Quote: g1v2
                        Combat - from 400 thousand and, again, a plus for each tag.

                        This means that the RF Armed Forces are paid more than in the 1st Corps of the DPR, which is generally natural.
                        And for example - at Wagner last year they paid 300 thousand per month under a contract + for combat. So in the Army of the Russian Federation they now pay even more than in PMCs.
                      5. polar fox
                        polar fox 21 September 2022 15: 06
                        +3
                        Quote: bayard
                        And under the contract in the database zone, now an ordinary person receives about 200 - 300 thousand rubles.

                        and the proof is possible? otherwise the guys under the contract only received 120 per month ... probably the contract in the wrong army?
                      6. bayard
                        bayard 21 September 2022 17: 21
                        +1
                        Such SMS began to come the last month.
                        And this is a payment to those who are in combat. Outside of combat (including those who are recovering from wounds), until recently they were actually paid 118 thousand rubles.
                        And SMS with an invitation to a contract in the assault units with a salary of 250 to 300 thousand, periodically come to many in Donetsk. We all know about this.
                      7. bayard
                        bayard 21 September 2022 17: 22
                        +1
                        But about the RF Armed Forces:
                        Quote: g1v2
                        A month ago, there were 170 for a private in the rear, plus 40 for each badge. Combat - from 400 thousand and, again, a plus for each tag.
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                      9. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 21 September 2022 17: 33
                        +1
                        an ordinary person receives about 200 - 300 thousand rubles
                        It's 4300 pounds a month belay For that kind of money, the British will join the army. It is worth noting that in the British army the allowance does not depend on whether you are in London or in Baghdad - there are no "combat" ones.
                      10. bayard
                        bayard 21 September 2022 18: 56
                        +2
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        This is 4300 pounds a month. For that kind of money, the British will join the army.

                        So let them come to us, we take foreigners on a contract. But you still have to fight. And not in Baghdad, where "everything is calm."
                      11. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 21 September 2022 19: 34
                        0
                        we take foreigners on a contract
                        Upon arrival back to the EU \ UK - paddy wagon. But hiring a couple of Houthi brigades from Yemen will not be a problem. And they know how to burn Abrams.
                      12. bayard
                        bayard 21 September 2022 19: 54
                        +1
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        But hiring a couple of Houthi brigades from Yemen will not be a problem. And they know how to burn Abrams.

                        And we will accept the Afghan Mujahideen with pleasure. By the way, they are also torn.
                        I think for that kind of money even 100 thousand North Korean soldiers will still become a reality in the steppes of Ukraine. bully
                        The main law was adopted. Moreover, they promised citizenship after a year of service.
                      13. AdAstra
                        AdAstra 21 September 2022 19: 00
                        -1
                        What contract will be concluded, go to pravo.gov.ru and read the decree and do not work with a damaged phone.
                      14. bayard
                        bayard 21 September 2022 19: 57
                        0
                        I'm talking about us, not about
                        Quote from AdAstra
                        pravo.gov.ru

                        In our Donbass, everyone has been fighting on a contract for a long time.
                    4. Nastia makarova
                      Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 13: 54
                      +1
                      200 thousand will not cover even half a month???
                      1. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 13: 59
                        +1
                        200 thousand will not cover even half a month???
                        And half the amount will cover. With a margin.
                      2. Nastia makarova
                        Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 14: 34
                        +1
                        200 thousand promise to pay mobilized as well as contract soldiers
                    5. silberwolf88
                      silberwolf88 22 September 2022 01: 14
                      0
                      protecting the MOTHERLAND is not an expensive personal business project ... but the monetary allowance of an ordinary in the war zone is quite worthy (this is not Chechnya for you) ... they are considering paying off the mortgage during the call-up for the mobilized and other nishtyaks while maintaining the workplace and other things ... and what else ... you ask your grandfathers, they just went for their homeland without compensation and even prospects ... the time is now
                  2. lopvlad
                    lopvlad 21 September 2022 19: 26
                    0
                    Quote: silberwolf88
                    well, of course, if you are a 25-year-old banker, you will not be compensated for your company package


                    if you are a 25-year-old banker, then you bought yourself a military man a long time ago and it says that you did not serve urgently, which means that you automatically do not fall under partial mobilization.
                2. Hypertension
                  Hypertension 21 September 2022 12: 42
                  +6
                  Quote: AKuzenka
                  The mobilization mechanism is well thought out

                  Is it thought out? Only the day before yesterday, a State Duma deputy said that the introduction of the concept of mobilization in the Criminal Code does not mean that this very mobilization will be carried out. And today - hello, please! They lie like they breathe.
                  1. mkop
                    mkop 21 September 2022 12: 55
                    +8
                    The more we talk about what will not happen, the more we should expect it.
                  2. Akuzenka
                    Akuzenka 21 September 2022 13: 34
                    +3
                    Is it thought out?
                    Mobilization plans are drawn up long before. Therefore thought out. And the deputy, a low-flying bird, to be shone in the plans. But of course they lied. Lie. And they will lie.
                    1. Hypertension
                      Hypertension 21 September 2022 13: 57
                      -3
                      Quote: AKuzenka
                      Mobilization plans are drawn up long before.

                      I read that the mobilization plan (the last version) was drawn up under Yeltsin. When there was "peace, friendship, chewing gum" with the West. When they could not even imagine that the time "H" would come.
                    2. Pavel73
                      Pavel73 21 September 2022 14: 53
                      +1
                      Yes. Unfortunately, this is war. And in order to deceive and defeat the enemy, you often have to tell lies to your own.
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                  4. sniperino
                    sniperino 21 September 2022 13: 44
                    -6
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    The day before yesterday, a State Duma deputy said that the introduction of the concept of mobilization in the Criminal Code does not mean that this very mobilization will be carried out ... They lie like they breathe.
                    You yourself lie as you breathe. No one reported to her about the day of the announcement. And the introduction of the concept in the Criminal Code does not mean the announcement of mobilization. What's wrong? Some kind of gossip.
                    1. Hypertension
                      Hypertension 21 September 2022 14: 02
                      +2
                      Quote: sniperino
                      You yourself lie as you breathe. No one reported to her about the day of the announcement.

                      Is liability for false information from a government official in this case provided or what? And Putin nadys said that everything was according to plan, but he didn’t even mention mobilization, how is that?
                      What for then they are there, in the State Duma, and receive their salaries, if they can say what comes into their heads?
                      1. sniperino
                        sniperino 21 September 2022 14: 13
                        -2
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        Is liability for false information from a government official in this case provided or what?
                        a State Duma deputy said that the introduction of the concept of mobilization in the Criminal Code does not mean that this very mobilization is carried out
                        Do you understand Russian what you wrote yourself? She told the truth. What is the lie of the deputies seen here? I should have said "begin!" before it's officially announced? Then I would definitely be lying. They wouldn’t announce a month, and you would accuse her of lying for the whole month.
                      2. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 21 September 2022 14: 38
                        +1
                        Quote: sniperino
                        She told the truth.

                        Icelandic Truth. That is, in fact, the truth, but she kept silent (if she knew) about mobilization. The people took this as the fact that there would be no mobilization. After all, the excitement arose precisely after the introduction of amendments to the Criminal Code. Then they began to reassure that this does not mean mobilization.
                        And, again, when Putin spoke the other day, he did not say a word about mobilization, but only confirmed that "everything is according to plan."
                      3. sniperino
                        sniperino 21 September 2022 17: 23
                        -2
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        The people took this as the fact that there would be no mobilization.
                        The people are not as stupid as you are trying to present them here. Interestingly, did you yourself perceive this as the fact that there would be no mobilization? Then you are not too smart. Or do you place yourself too high above the people for such assumptions, which is almost the same thing, actually.
                      4. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 21 September 2022 18: 18
                        +1
                        Quote: sniperino
                        The people are not as stupid as you are trying to present them here.

                        I'm not trying to "imagine". I have formed an opinion based on comments on social networks and statements by politicians and public figures.
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Then you are not too smart.

                        It's good that you are "too". You have only hope and peace. As the saying goes: "when there are such people in the Russian country" ... God grant you health and respite from mobilization, so that you can enlighten us, who are not too smart, on this forum.
                  5. FomaKinyaev
                    FomaKinyaev 21 September 2022 17: 57
                    +4
                    Interest rates on loans were raised to 24% a week before the main event, I think not with a simple one. Who needs to know everything. And you don’t need to listen to all these talking heads, they have a job to chatter and trade face.
                  6. silberwolf88
                    silberwolf88 22 September 2022 01: 15
                    +1
                    well, there are a lot of athletes and artists of various kinds ... I hope DB veterans will appear ... over time, there will be a different conversation
                3. Konnick
                  Konnick 21 September 2022 13: 34
                  +1
                  The mobilization mechanism is well thought out

                  Where is it exactly thought out? They didn’t even write who they would call. It used to be plans for the deployment of the army during mobilization. There were framed units and formations, where there was a permanent assigned staff, which was periodically called up for training. For example, I knew where my warehouse with the equipment of the company was and was familiar with this equipment, I even checked the technical condition maintained by the servicemen of this cropped unit. This part is now missing.
                  1. VasyaRules
                    VasyaRules 21 September 2022 13: 57
                    0
                    That's it ! So they don't do it. Plus, I have some doubts about 4 months of preparation.
                  2. sniperino
                    sniperino 21 September 2022 19: 18
                    -3
                    Quote: Konnick
                    They didn’t even write who they would call.
                    Mobilization is not only about whom to call. This is also the mobilization of the economy, the work of the state apparatus. They will write, don't worry.
                  3. silberwolf88
                    silberwolf88 22 September 2022 01: 20
                    0
                    GOMU is what it supports plans for mobilization deployment ... but don’t remember the old system, it ran out of steam after going through the 90s ... it was a matter of mobilization and formation at the beginning of the XNUMXs (in the UrVO) ... for the first time I heard the Supreme swearing ... air defense equipment with elements bitten into gold and palladium did not come out of the boxes ... it's better not to remember "but before" ... it worked under the USSR
                4. warlock77
                  warlock77 21 September 2022 13: 38
                  0
                  And push the liberals into the first echelon and onto the front line!
                  1. IvanSviridov
                    IvanSviridov 21 September 2022 13: 49
                    -3
                    So they will shoot the officers and surrender the entire unit, along with the equipment, to the enemy. Do we need it? Do you have any idea what it's like to deal with a bunch of would-be deserters on the front lines?
                  2. VasyaRules
                    VasyaRules 21 September 2022 13: 56
                    0
                    Why aren't you at the front yet? Would you like to be a volunteer? And who is a liberal? Name these heroes. Our government is considered liberal for a second
                    1. Okakakiev
                      Okakakiev 21 September 2022 15: 26
                      -2
                      Why then do liberals hate the government?
                      1. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 22 September 2022 12: 42
                        0
                        Why then do liberals hate the government?
                        Because the liberals are sitting there in power and do not allow them to do what they themselves are doing with the scope of their entire capitalist soul. The answer is banal and simple. It is not a matter of political disagreements, although they also exist, but of the division of "righteously earned".
              2. Antey
                Antey 21 September 2022 11: 05
                +22
                Quote: dauria
                Although the age is limiting, but if they call, I will go

                I hope the authorities have thought it through. All the "mechanics" of this case. From where the military commissar will look for "their" wards before the family of the draftee feeds himself and earns money for the rent. Yes, prices will need to be adjusted. And then the peasant in the trench, and the taxi driver, banker and store owner will take the foam from his "works" from his family.
                Everything, so everything. Tax should be introduced on this business. Yes, serious, not cheap. And progressive. And the exit over the hillock still "the day before yesterday" had to be blocked by everyone. What would not happen later - "I returned here from Thailand, but what about you, was there a war? Didn't know"

                I can only answer based on the experience of the LPR. Came from there a week ago. Brother officer - mortar, even managed to wash the stars with him. So - the salary is paid on time, but in cash, the cards do not work there, at the same time he is paid a full salary at a former civilian job. Against this background, prices rose to the average Russian prices, plus or minus. Taking into account the fact that the salaries of those who do not fight are tiny, this is not encouraging. The good news is that the brother will have all the advantages of a Russian contractor now. Fighting since February 21st.
                1. Corrosion inhibitor
                  Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 11: 32
                  +3
                  The latter also pleases - it's right.
                2. tatarin1972
                  tatarin1972 21 September 2022 12: 38
                  +9
                  I think that the storerooms of the 1st category from privates and sergeants, and junior officers of the 1st and 2nd categories, depending on the Higher Educational Institution, will fall under mobilization. In short, time will tell, no matter how anyone thinks, all this mess needs to be disentangled, preferably at the pace of a waltz. And it is desirable that all this liberal astronomy should be put in a stall, and preferably in the UFSIN, on the other side of the thorn.
                  1. Installer
                    Installer 21 September 2022 12: 52
                    +2
                    Who from the military review falls under the draft? What is the average age of subscribers? I think it's very high
                    1. tatarin1972
                      tatarin1972 21 September 2022 14: 10
                      +1
                      At the expense of subscribers, I don’t know how many and who will be mobilized. 1 category is the storerooms up to 35 years of private and non-commissioned officers. Junior officers of the 1st category up to 45 years. Now the explanation has been published, the 2nd category of junior officers is not included.
                  2. Corrosion inhibitor
                    Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 13: 38
                    0
                    I would increase the pace, I would say - at the pace of cha-cha-cha, otherwise ... as if the rave would not have to "dance" soon. And so for how long the boobs were crushed - this is not good, and it did not work. So the waltz is already outdated.
                    1. tatarin1972
                      tatarin1972 21 September 2022 14: 16
                      +1
                      Cha-cha-cha means total destruction, carpet bombing. The complete destruction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the civilian population, like Arnold Almakirk - "Kill everyone! The Lord will distinguish his own" - is not our method.
                3. Pavel73
                  Pavel73 21 September 2022 14: 57
                  0
                  Damn, are postal or bank transfers home possible? And then I have a loan for building a house for another year and a half to pay. I would not want everything to hang on the family.
              3. Primus
                Primus 21 September 2022 11: 51
                +1
                What the heck is a mechanic? Do you really believe that someone will take care of your families? And no one will be caught. Military registration and enlistment offices for mailing enterprises made with lists. Our personnel officer has locked herself and does not open to anyone. The head of the workshop carried a list of 25 people with a specification of the specialties in which they work.
                1. Corrosion inhibitor
                  Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 13: 39
                  -2
                  There is Russian legislation. Everyone who does not want to take care of their neighbor in the Russian Federation deals with him.
              4. IvanSviridov
                IvanSviridov 21 September 2022 13: 46
                0
                Come on! They will oblige the current employer to pay the salary of the mobilized one - and all for a short time.
            2. saigon
              saigon 21 September 2022 10: 11
              +29
              Just visited the legal site 911 is nicknamed. let's say quite oppositional, so there is a howl or whining and moaning why and for what, and suddenly to the front and they are not for Putin and not for the NVO, they are good for them in the trenches.
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 21 September 2022 10: 17
                +12
                Quote: saigon
                , and suddenly to the front and they are not for Putin and not for the NVO, they are good for them in the trenches.

                So these must first of all be invited by a summons for the construction of railway roads in Siberia and other regions of the Far North. Pickaxes, shovels in pampered hands, padded jackets, rat hats and go ahead to hammer the permafrost ... Do they want to sit out? Behind other people's backs and other people's blood, buy yourself a satisfying worthless existence? It is impossible to admit that the Russian people will fight and the chosen ones will sit in the rear and will spit and splash poison .. To the nail.
                1. Rostislav
                  Rostislav 21 September 2022 10: 29
                  +13
                  Invite this, well, well. Immediately, the military commissar "for strength" will begin to check how large a bag of money can hold and not bend. The military commissars will have a hard time now.
                  1. Akuzenka
                    Akuzenka 21 September 2022 10: 32
                    +6
                    Immediately, the military commissar "for strength" will begin to check how large a bag of money can hold and not bend. The military commissars will have a hard time now.
                    Don't worry about them. For many, many years, the mechanism has been worked out. It's just that the tariffs will increase by a multiple. There is more work for the "authorities", although I think that the "authorities" will also raise the tariff.
                  2. Dedok
                    Dedok 21 September 2022 11: 17
                    +2
                    Quote: Rostislav
                    . Immediately, the military commissar will begin to check "for strength", how big can a bag of money hold and don't bend over.

                    liked...
                    but, like in the old days, there is still a telephone right
                    and then I'll say...
                  3. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 21 September 2022 11: 18
                    +5
                    Quote: Rostislav
                    Invite this, well, well. Immediately, the military commissar "for strength" will begin to check how large a bag of money can hold and not bend. The military commissars will have a hard time now.

                    Yesterday the law on mobilization and liability for draft evasion was adopted. The military commissar will think ten times before taking even 100 thousand rubles, or getting a term of eight to ten years .. Not equivalent values. Understand ?
                    1. AdAstra
                      AdAstra 21 September 2022 11: 33
                      +5
                      Is it the second time they introduce an article responsible for evasion? And yes, when they really need it right in the years, everyone accepts it.
                      1. sniperino
                        sniperino 21 September 2022 15: 33
                        -2
                        Quote from AdAstra
                        And yes, when they really need it right in the years, everyone accepts it.
                        If they really need what is needed for the country, then these are the right deputies.
                      2. AdAstra
                        AdAstra 21 September 2022 17: 53
                        +1
                        Well, well, well, well ... Blessed are those who believe.
                      3. sniperino
                        sniperino 21 September 2022 19: 37
                        0
                        Quote from AdAstra
                        Blessed are those who believe.
                        That the country needs mobilization? I believe, but I don’t feel bliss: I won’t even be called up as a junior officer in the third category, and I stopped blissful about the fact that others will protect me at my elementary school age.
                    2. Plate
                      Plate 21 September 2022 11: 39
                      +1
                      And if not 100 thousand, but a couple of million?
                      1. Fitter65
                        Fitter65 21 September 2022 12: 48
                        0
                        Quote: Plate
                        And if not 100 thousand, but a couple of million?

                        Not the same price...
                      2. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 21 September 2022 13: 06
                        +2
                        Quote: Plate
                        And if not 100 thousand, but a couple of million?

                        And if he dies in the zone from tuberculosis, or are other urks crushed?
                      3. AdAstra
                        AdAstra 21 September 2022 13: 13
                        +1
                        What urks, the red zone will be from the same former ones like him, if at all.
                      4. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 21 September 2022 13: 22
                        -4
                        Quote from AdAstra
                        What urks, the red zone will be from the same former ones like him, if at all.

                        you are a zone specialist. Red , gray , white .. On the corner area . the urks are sitting. Red, white. black, purple criminals, urks .. They will slaughter. They have their own laws.
                  4. Corrosion inhibitor
                    Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 13: 41
                    +1
                    Ivan Bodrov ordered his people not to scold during the war. Especially, in absentia, I suppose.
                    1. sniperino
                      sniperino 21 September 2022 14: 43
                      +2
                      Quote: Corrosion_Inhibitor
                      Ivan Bodrov ordered his people not to scold during the war.
                      This was not ordered by Bodrov, but from time immemorial it has been so established, then it became a law and should be clear to anyone, even an alarmist. You see (or think you see) specific mistakes of the command - write a report, appeal to the address, but do not vote to the public "everything is lost" for any reason.
                      1. Corrosion inhibitor
                        Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 15: 51
                        +1
                        You know - that's good. We discussed this here and now, under this article - this is also good.
                      2. sniperino
                        sniperino 21 September 2022 16: 47
                        +2
                        So, yes, only the alarmists here are too much. They would make lists of pluses and minuses on the forum, they would shine more strongly. And return shoulder straps with skulls.
                2. NDR-791
                  NDR-791 21 September 2022 11: 05
                  +4
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  Want to sit out? Behind other people's backs and other people's blood, buy yourself a satisfying worthless existence?

                  And after all, many will sit out, trm-taararam !!! Tickets to Turkey and Armenia were bought up in the bud in just half an hour. If they weren’t even allowed to fly out, well, not into the trenches, then to the construction site.
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 21 September 2022 11: 16
                    +6
                    Quote: NDR-791
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    Want to sit out? Behind other people's backs and other people's blood, buy yourself a satisfying worthless existence?

                    And after all, many will sit out, trm-taararam !!! Tickets to Turkey and Armenia were bought up in the bud in just half an hour. If they weren’t even allowed to fly out, well, not into the trenches, then to the construction site.

                    So for this yesterday, changes were made to the Criminal Code - 10 years if come back im shining
                  2. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 21 September 2022 11: 23
                    +1
                    Quote: NDR-791
                    Tickets to Turkey and Armenia were bought up in the bud in just half an hour.

                    How long will they stay there? A month, five? Who will give them money? Will they start to engage in prostitution, and clean the shoes of the Turks? Well, well .... Won the scarecrow and Vanyuta Urgant dragged? dragged laughing ... Evil melancholy dejected to the ant creeps lol she is ..... bully This is where retribution will come. At best, construction in the Far North ...
                  3. Corrosion inhibitor
                    Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 13: 43
                    +1
                    It would be better if they were not allowed back later. You can't get far on mad dogs - they need to be euthanized, or driven out of the yard.
              2. Ros 56
                Ros 56 21 September 2022 10: 23
                +4
                First of all, these are on the front line, you won’t be lucky to wash your conscience, such a planid.
                1. raw174
                  raw174 21 September 2022 11: 19
                  +19
                  Quote: Ros 56
                  So these should be invited first of all

                  I support Shoigu in his words that serving the motherland is an honor, not a punishment.
                  PS I came for dinner, my wife is in tears, well, what can you take from a woman? In my environment there are no those who would decide to hide somewhere, to sit out.
                  1. Sergey Nikiforov
                    Sergey Nikiforov 21 September 2022 12: 47
                    +1
                    Do you know how bullets whistle overhead and mines burst nearby? Try
                    1. VORON538
                      VORON538 21 September 2022 17: 54
                      0
                      Sergey Nikiforov (Sergey Nikiforov)
                      How is your son, Sergey? Is he still serving?
                  2. Corrosion inhibitor
                    Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 13: 44
                    +2
                    God help you. I'm telling you this as a reserve officer.
                  3. sniperino
                    sniperino 21 September 2022 15: 03
                    -2
                    Quote: raw174
                    to serve the motherland is an honor, not a punishment
                    Quite right! But this is only an honorable duty. Those who want to get rid of it can, in one situation, plow in dirty work or in harsh conditions, in another - sew clothes for the army in the camp. In extreme cases, they can put it against the wall. It is correct that the 5th column was dispersed in order before mobilization, there will be fewer traitors.
                2. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 21 September 2022 13: 11
                  +1
                  Quote: Ros 56
                  These are primarily at the forefront

                  These will shoot in the back ... They will betray as soon as the opportunity arises. And therefore, to work with very harmful working conditions, to the very Far North, under the supervision of the Chukchi and Evenks ... These guys beat a squirrel in the eye, they crush a Siberian wolf (80 kilograms) with their bare hands ... They won’t let “palkin and alkin” breathe am .
                  1. Corrosion inhibitor
                    Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 13: 45
                    +3
                    That's right, you can't go far with mad dogs. You need to drive them - and do not let them back. Or put to sleep. Make separate units from them - sappers, under separate supervision from among volunteers.
              3. silberwolf88
                silberwolf88 21 September 2022 10: 38
                +11
                these into battle formations after intensive training at the training ground ... all the liberal nonsense will quickly leave there ... the army is great at formatting consciousness and civic position
              4. Dalmatia
                Dalmatia 21 September 2022 12: 03
                +5
                Why did you visit the 911 website? This site is for "promotion" of novice lawyers, where each of them carries a gag that is far from the law and does not bear any responsibility for it.
            3. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 21 September 2022 10: 35
              +34
              Quote: AKuzenka
              Although the age is limiting, but if they call, I will go

              And if you think about the meaning? In 2014, I was also going to the Donbass, but it didn’t work out ... Now my age is “outrageous” ... I don’t have the necessary military specialty ... The ZAS communication equipment on which I worked has long been decommissioned ... infantrymen with machine guns? But now my vision is heeled ... and even very heeled! Well, what use would I be there? Perhaps zero + burden for "colleagues"! So it turns out that already "neither to the disco, nor to the Red Army"! There remains an extreme case ... if NATO invades the territory of Russia, then I will fight ... here, or pan, or disappeared ... at least a day, but I can hold out, because life will become meaningless and useless in Russia captured by the enemy ... This will no longer be Russia!
              1. CYM
                CYM 21 September 2022 11: 49
                +3
                There remains an extreme case ... if NATO invades the territory of Russia, then I will fight ... here
                I have a situation similar to yours. IMHO If NATO invades ... it will be a completely different war and there will be no general mobilization, popular militia, etc. Interestingly, there are still cartridges on sale, as you know, there are not many of them. sad
              2. Corrosion inhibitor
                Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 13: 50
                -1
                You will push the mine trawl in front of you, since you are so worried that you will go on the attack ahead of the "healthy".
            4. Romario_Argo
              Romario_Argo 21 September 2022 10: 41
              +4
              I agree. I'm waiting for the agenda.
              we will restore Ukraine after non-Russian devils
              FSS is now the Military Construction Complex of the VSK MO
              1. El Barto
                El Barto 21 September 2022 11: 09
                +12
                Before restoring, you first need to pile them well.
                1. Corrosion inhibitor
                  Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 13: 52
                  +1
                  Yep, that's exactly what needs to be done. Otherwise, they won't understand anything...
              2. NERV
                NERV 21 September 2022 11: 53
                -17
                Quote: Romario_Argo
                I agree. I'm waiting for the agenda.
                we will restore Ukraine after non-Russian devils
                FSS is now the Military Construction Complex of the VSK MO

                there is no need to wait at home, go outside - they are waiting for you there
                1. Dalmatia
                  Dalmatia 21 September 2022 12: 05
                  +12
                  And you have already taken to the streets in Kyiv, after all, you are already on your fourth mobilization)))
                  1. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 21 September 2022 13: 16
                    +2
                    Quote: Dalmatia
                    And you have already taken to the streets in Kyiv, after all, you are already on your fourth mobilization)))

                    He writes from under the speed (skirt) of his Harpyna .... Or from under the skirt of Qili, from Ashdod ... laughing Abortion victim...
                    1. Dalmatia
                      Dalmatia 21 September 2022 20: 46
                      +2
                      There are a lot of dill, bulkheads and other provocateurs on the site.
                2. Corrosion inhibitor
                  Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 13: 56
                  0
                  Yes, it's not so scary when they are waiting for you. It’s more terrible to fail like smelly shit in a dirty corner and never come out into the white world for the rest of your life ...
            5. Piramidon
              Piramidon 21 September 2022 10: 49
              +4
              Quote: AKuzenka
              Many jingoistic patriots will run to "warm places"!

              Why run anywhere? Doctors get crazy and get the right diagnosis, even enuresis, even flat feet, even schizophrenia.
              1. Corrosion inhibitor
                Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 13: 58
                0
                I am a "hooray patriot" - I don't run anywhere and I don't bash anyone for flat feet. I just live for today.
            6. Mwg
              Mwg 21 September 2022 11: 12
              +5
              My regards. GO troops, dosimetrist!
            7. NERV
              NERV 21 September 2022 11: 47
              -12
              Quote: AKuzenka
              It will be a real picture of who is who.
              I agree. Many jingoistic patriots will run to "warm places"! I don't need to run. Although the age is limiting, but if they call, I will go. RKhBZ are always needed.

              don't worry
              1. Akuzenka
                Akuzenka 21 September 2022 12: 03
                +4
                don't worry
                I'm never worried.
            8. Sarboz
              Sarboz 21 September 2022 11: 58
              +1
              Quote: AKuzenka
              I agree. Many jingoistic patriots will run to "warm places"!

              It seems to me that it is long overdue to understand that the pejorative term "cheers-patriotism" has been implanted in us from the West and enthusiastically accepted for use by our pseudo-liberals. Therefore, we should not be like the listeners of the "echo of Moscow". For example, from the first day of the special operation I say, calm down, victory will be ours, the commander in chief and the General Staff know what and when to do, there are no shameful "agreements" and other things. So I have long been branded with the title of "cheers-patriot." Yes, I am a patriot and proud of it. I fought in Afghanistan and when they call me, I will go to fight. Don't use enemy slang. Not "cheers-patriots" are running, but traitors.
              1. Akuzenka
                Akuzenka 21 September 2022 12: 10
                +10
                It seems to me that it is long overdue to understand that the pejorative term "cheers-patriotism" has been implanted in us from the West and enthusiastically accepted for use by our pseudo-liberals.
                I do not agree. If there was a USSR, I would not doubt our victory, but the real world is such that they betray their own. They betrayed the USSR. Now this is easier. Where their money is, there they have their homeland. And it's not in Russia. One can argue about the term "cheers-patriotism" and its genesis for a long time, but it is very well-aimed. And we have real liberals in power, and not pseudo ones at all. GDP himself admitted that he was a liberal. And the retirement age promised not to raise a lot of little things. And now it’s almost “Brothers and Sisters” .... And no one will prevent or forbid you to be a patriot. Himself like that.
                1. Sarboz
                  Sarboz 21 September 2022 12: 18
                  +3
                  Quote: AKuzenka
                  GDP himself admitted that he was a liberal.

                  Putin is a liberal. Not the one that was dug in on "Echo of Moscow", that is, pseudo-liberals, Westerners, namely "liberal" in the original sense of the term. That is, a person who stands for the freedom of man, business. That is why he admonished our "businessmen" for a long time, "you are tormented by the dust of foreign courts to swallow," instead of returning their money to their homeland by force.
                  1. Akuzenka
                    Akuzenka 21 September 2022 12: 28
                    +2
                    That is, a person who stands for the freedom of man, business. That is why he admonished our "businessmen" for a long time, "you are tormented by the dust of foreign courts to swallow," instead of returning their money to their homeland by force.
                    Oh, there are so many things to object to you.
                    Let's talk about freedom: Freedom to trade with someone who has declared that he wants to destroy you! Great freedom!
                    Free to pay money and avoid jail time! Great freedom.
                    The freedom to work three jobs and barely be above the poverty line.
                    Freedom to send through the bureaucratic circles of hell any citizen who is entitled (!) to benefits by law.
                    Etc. etc. Liberism. Do you know who comes to power after the liberals?
                    1. Sarboz
                      Sarboz 21 September 2022 13: 08
                      0
                      Quote: AKuzenka
                      Oh, there are so many things to object to you.

                      I don't need to object. I'm just a supporter of a strong hand.
                      1. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 13: 21
                        0
                        I'm just a supporter of a strong hand.
                        Then why are you bred here, damn it .....?
                    2. Sarboz
                      Sarboz 21 September 2022 13: 16
                      -1
                      Quote: AKuzenka
                      Free to pay money and avoid jail time! Great freedom.

                      Did Putin personally establish such freedom by his decision?
                      1. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 13: 22
                        0
                        Did Putin personally establish such freedom by his decision?
                        Does Putin examine every criminal case?
                  2. Akuzenka
                    Akuzenka 21 September 2022 12: 30
                    +4
                    Putin is a liberal. Not the one that was dug in on "Echo of Moscow", that is, pseudo-liberals, Westerners, namely "liberal" in the original sense of the term.
                    Strange, why didn't he stop their openly anti-Russian rhetoric and propaganda? I will answer you - he himself is the same. You can dress him and the rest of the liberals in bright clothes, it's nice to live in a world of your imagination. But alas, not in this world.
                    1. Sarboz
                      Sarboz 21 September 2022 13: 13
                      0
                      Quote: AKuzenka
                      I will answer you - he himself is the same. You can dress him and other liberals in bright clothes

                      It's all talk about nothing. Just tell me which side you're on. Who do you support if not Putin? Then everything will become clear.
                      1. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 13: 29
                        +1
                        Who do you support if not Putin? Then everything will become clear.
                        On your side. I support my Motherland and those decisions that are good for her. And the benefit is decent wages, real equality before the law and confidence in the future for the family. You seem to have other priorities. Well, your right.
                      2. Sarboz
                        Sarboz 21 September 2022 13: 33
                        -3
                        Quote: AKuzenka
                        On your side. I support my Motherland and those decisions that are good for her.

                        You are using the usual rhetoric of the "liberals": "I love the Motherland, but not its authorities!" In time of war, such views are subject to severe punishment. In times of war, such views are tantamount to betrayal.
                      3. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 13: 47
                        +3
                        You are using the usual rhetoric of the "liberals": "I love the Motherland, but not its authorities!" In time of war, such views are subject to severe punishment. In times of war, such views are tantamount to betrayal.
                        I use the rhetoric of a man who understands why the capitalists bleed. Oh, you probably don’t know that GDP is a capitalist ?! And the entire government with the State Duma. If the enemy comes to the territory of the country, I will go to beat him. And you, let's continue propaganda between me, how bad I am.
                        And you are clearly on the side of the capitalists. When you take off the "last shirt" for their own good, let's see how your worldview changes. If you are who you say you are.
                      4. Sarboz
                        Sarboz 21 September 2022 14: 05
                        -2
                        Quote: AKuzenka
                        Oh, you probably don’t know that GDP is a capitalist ?!

                        Many have tried to prove it. Nobody was able to find anything. It was only people who were hard to blame for their love for the Motherland, such as Khodorkovsky and Navalny, who did this. Are you on their side?
                      5. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 14: 06
                        0
                        Are you on their side?
                        I know the rhetoric. I answered your question Read above.
                      6. Sarboz
                        Sarboz 21 September 2022 14: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: AKuzenka
                        Are you on their side?
                        I know the rhetoric. I answered your question Read above.

                        Yes, in principle, you showed yourself in full glory.
                      7. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 21 September 2022 14: 24
                        -1
                        Yes, in principle, you showed yourself in full glory.
                        In this I yield to you.
                      8. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 21 September 2022 20: 05
                        -1
                        Quote: Sarboz
                        Many have tried to prove it.

                        There, evidence is hanging on everyone’s hand. A watch in a million
                    2. connoisseur
                      connoisseur 21 September 2022 13: 31
                      -3
                      You are absolutely right. Want to add. Local searches for "for" and "against" mobilization testify to the inability to analyze the facts. Today, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation published the figures for the losses of the ukrofascists: 61,5 thousand killed and 49,5 thousand wounded (inaccurate, because I don’t remember the tenths). The figures are strange because in world practice it is customary to consider 10 to 35 - that is, out of 45 who left, 10 were killed, 35 were wounded. Those who believe that at the same time we all remained alive and have pistols from which ours shoot for 2 hours without reloading, these are sick people. Losses are likely to be very high, and this primarily explains the mobilization. And I advise all of us not to forget that we live in a capitalist society, albeit a strange one, and not to think that it is only in the USA "to whom is war, and to whom is mother dear" ...
                  3. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 21 September 2022 13: 18
                    +1
                    Quote: Sarboz
                    Putin is a liberal

                    Quote: Sarboz
                    That is, a person who stands for the freedom of man, business. That is why he admonished our "businessmen" for a long time, "you are tormented by the dust of foreign courts to swallow," instead of returning their money to their homeland by force.

                    Rather, a person balancing between extremes. Centrist. hi
                    1. Sarboz
                      Sarboz 21 September 2022 13: 29
                      0
                      Quote: 30 vis
                      Quote: Sarboz
                      Putin is a liberal

                      Rather, a person balancing between extremes. Centrist. hi

                      Well, you are most likely right.
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                    1. Sarboz
                      Sarboz 21 September 2022 14: 18
                      0
                      Quote from VasyaRules
                      Is there much freedom now for a person and business? He turned the constitution into a piece of paper, created a cult of personality for himself.

                      Whose portrait hangs on the wall in TsIPSE?
                      1. VasyaRules
                        VasyaRules 21 September 2022 14: 23
                        -4
                        Personally, I do not create idols for myself and do not support cults
                    2. AdAstra
                      AdAstra 21 September 2022 21: 18
                      -3
                      Well, what are you, the cult of personality is only with Stalin.
                  5. Nikolaevich I
                    Nikolaevich I 21 September 2022 14: 17
                    +1
                    Quote: Sarboz
                    Putin is a liberal. Not the one that was dug in on "Echo of Moscow", that is, pseudo-liberals, Westerners, namely "liberal" in the original sense of the term

                    Well, okay ! It could have been in a nutshell ... there are liberals and there are liberals! Many of those who identify themselves as liberals do not understand that in fact they are liberals! wink
                    1. Sarboz
                      Sarboz 21 September 2022 14: 26
                      +1
                      Quote: Nikolaevich I
                      Well, okay ! It could have been in a nutshell ... there are liberals and there are liberals! Many of those who identify themselves as liberals do not understand that in fact they are liberals!

                      Here, a comrade over there thinks that he is a "real patriot", but in fact an ordinary liberal.
                      Quote: AKuzenka
                      Oh, you probably don’t know that GDP is a capitalist ?! And the entire government with the State Duma.
              2. 1939_1940
                1939_1940 21 September 2022 12: 42
                +1
                That's just the gas is still pumping, and Ukraine receives money for transit .. That is, Gazprom is currently the official sponsor of the Kyiv regime. Are there really no contracts?
                1. Sarboz
                  Sarboz 21 September 2022 13: 23
                  0
                  Quote: 1939_1940
                  Are there really no contracts?

                  The opinion of the TsIPSO fighters is not interesting to me. Come on guys, they'll be coming for you soon.
                  1. 1939_1940
                    1939_1940 21 September 2022 14: 36
                    -2
                    Moreover, Gazprom is asking Ukraine to open a second gas metering station.. It hurts to know that so far someone is giving his life, and someone has a business..? Hold on, Motherland, you are more than once amazing ..!!
                  2. 1939_1940
                    1939_1940 21 September 2022 14: 47
                    -2
                    Moreover, Gazprom asks Ukraine to open another gas measuring station for gas supply.. Does it hurt? It’s just that money doesn’t smell .. Here on such useful go ... patriots and the Kremlin leaves .. Learn how to use Yandex, village ..
                    1. Sarboz
                      Sarboz 21 September 2022 15: 08
                      0
                      Quote: 1939_1940
                      Learn to use Yandex, village ..

                      So we Russians do not graduate from universities. Only you at TsIPSO are taught to use Google-Yandex in crash courses. We, lapotniki, reach everything with our minds, how to beat the enemy on the battlefield, how to calculate the adversary on the forums.
                      1. 1939_1940
                        1939_1940 21 September 2022 21: 23
                        -4
                        You say there are no agreements .. Well, well .. Today, the aircraft of the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia took off from Rostov-on-Don .. All foreign mercenaries captured by our fighters flew on it .. These are citizens of Great Britain, the USA, Croatia, Sweden and Morocco ..
                      2. Repellent
                        Repellent 21 September 2022 21: 39
                        0
                        Quote: 1939_1940
                        All foreign mercenaries captured by our fighters flew on it ..

                        They personally held a candle, as I understand it? Daughter of a fucking officer negative
                      3. 1939_1940
                        1939_1940 21 September 2022 21: 47
                        -4
                        This is official information.. The plane has already landed in Riyadh.. Everything is on the Internet.. Moreover, all those sentenced to death were released without conditions... Does it hurt?
                      4. Repellent
                        Repellent 21 September 2022 21: 51
                        0
                        Quote: 1939_1940
                        This is official info..

                        Yah? And whose is it?

                        Quote: 1939_1940
                        Everything is on the internet..

                        Yes, there is a lot of garbage ... and there are enough people like you, my friend request

                        Quote: 1939_1940
                        Moreover, all those sentenced to death were released without conditions ... Does it hurt?

                        I don't care, by and large. And, let me remind you - you have not yet been able to prove that it really is laughing
                      5. 1939_1940
                        1939_1940 21 September 2022 22: 00
                        -4
                        Why should I prove something .. Reuters, RBC and NTV have already answered for me .. Al Jazeera and CNN are reporting live .. laughing By the way, where did Tyra go? laughing Painfully? You got screwed again..
                      6. Repellent
                        Repellent 21 September 2022 22: 06
                        +1
                        It's clear. Okay, the diagnosis is clear - not a tenant. I do not wish you good luck, because it's useless yes
                      7. 1939_1940
                        1939_1940 21 September 2022 22: 38
                        -6
                        I see what they read .. And how today the Supreme branded the West .. laughing How everyone here is on fire.. But no, nothing changes.. Terve!
                      8. Sarboz
                        Sarboz 21 September 2022 23: 34
                        +3
                        Quote: 1939_1940
                        You say there are no deals.

                        Did your curator teach you to poke unfamiliar Russian uncles? Rough rough work. From all of you TsIPSyatinoy reeks of a kilometer.
                        Quote: 1939_1940
                        CNN is reporting live.

                        Can you share a link to a live report? Or did CNN broadcast directly only to Kyiv?
                      9. 1939_1940
                        1939_1940 21 September 2022 23: 53
                        -6
                        Exhale, except for the mercenaries, the fighters of Azov and the Armed Forces of Ukraine were released .. More than two hundred .. Hold on Bachi .. wink crying
                      10. Sarboz
                        Sarboz 22 September 2022 00: 15
                        +2
                        You get ready there. You and your colleagues tsipsyats will soon be given the opportunity to meet with captured NATO mercenaries ... Near the slop bucket. In one Sizo. soldier
                      11. 1939_1940
                        1939_1940 22 September 2022 00: 26
                        -5
                        Here is such a harsh truth .. You most importantly believe .. And ours also freed a woman sniper named Ptah .. This one loved to shoot at children in Mariupol who were standing in line for bread .. She is also at home ..
                      12. 1939_1940
                        1939_1940 22 September 2022 01: 26
                        -5
                        108 Azov fighters were released, including all commanders.. Our people are silent, Ukrainians laugh..
              3. Dalmatia
                Dalmatia 21 September 2022 20: 49
                +2
                Thank you for such a post. Everything is very correct, traitors are fleeing.
            9. Okakakiev
              Okakakiev 21 September 2022 15: 21
              0
              I hope they won't be able to leave the country
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 21 September 2022 09: 58
            +6
            Quote: AlexGa
            Interestingly, the minusers will become pluses.

            No, they won't. Moreover, a contingent from the square pulled up here. In these cases, you need to look at the number of fugitives from mobilization. It will be a real picture of who is who.

            The real picture was visible for a long time. Only in the first wave about 100 thousand left. Even then, the youth realized that mobilization was a matter of time
            1. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 21 September 2022 11: 02
              +2
              I just read: air tickets to Turkey and Armenia were sold out today, within 10 minutes. I don't know if they're lying or not. But I guess not.
              1. your1970
                your1970 21 September 2022 11: 19
                +1
                Quote: AKuzenka
                I just read: air tickets to Turkey and Armenia were sold out today, within 10 minutes. I don't know if they're lying or not. But I guess not.

                After yesterday's changes in the Criminal Code, they will leave forever. When you try to come back im 10 will shine
                1. Pilat2009
                  Pilat2009 21 September 2022 12: 48
                  +2
                  Quote: your1970
                  Quote: AKuzenka
                  I just read: air tickets to Turkey and Armenia were sold out today, within 10 minutes. I don't know if they're lying or not. But I guess not.

                  After yesterday's changes in the Criminal Code, they will leave forever. When you try to come back im 10 will shine

                  You don’t know that you need to get a summons? Here I work like this or rest in Australia, I don’t know anything ....
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 21 September 2022 13: 12
                    0
                    Quote: Pilat2009
                    Quote: your1970
                    Quote: AKuzenka
                    Just read: flights to Turkey and Armenia were sold out today, within 10 minutesm. I don’t know if they’re lying or not. But I guess not.

                    After yesterday's changes in the Criminal Code, they will leave forever. When you try to come back im 10 will shine

                    You don’t know that you need to get a summons? Here I work like this or rest in Australia, I don’t know anything ....

                    1) changes were made in the spring - now they don’t carry summons - the conscript must CAM come to the military office.
                    2) those who flew away yesterday (or a year ago) - those slipped through with the slogan "I couldn't return home!!! There was no money for a ticket!!" (conditionally).
                    The conversation was about those who left today Tomorrow..Who dared tickets today ...
                    They announced it on TV, they will publish it in the Russian newspaper. And this is enough to inform them according to the current legislation.
                    LEGALLY something like
                    1. Pilat2009
                      Pilat2009 21 September 2022 20: 13
                      -1
                      Quote: your1970
                      the conscript must CAM come to the military registration and enlistment office

                      No one will go to the draft board for you. You can believe me
                      1. your1970
                        your1970 21 September 2022 21: 12
                        +1
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        Quote: your1970
                        the conscript must CAM come to the military registration and enlistment office

                        No one will go to the draft board for you. You can believe me

                        1) The spring call passed without disruption.
                        2) we have this morning - still BEFORE mobilization left 4 volunteers.
                        3) in the absolutely Soviet and people's USSR, without oligarchs and capitalists - the Criminal Code of the RSFSR operated with a separate section on military crimes
                        4) changes were made to the Criminal Code yesterday. Whoever does not come is their decision. But running today will be much more difficult than in 1941
                      2. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 22 September 2022 06: 07
                        0
                        Quote: your1970
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        Quote: your1970
                        the conscript must CAM come to the military registration and enlistment office

                        No one will go to the draft board for you. You can believe me

                        1) The spring call passed without disruption.
                        2) we have this morning - still BEFORE mobilization left 4 volunteers.
                        3) in the absolutely Soviet and people's USSR, without oligarchs and capitalists - the Criminal Code of the RSFSR operated with a separate section on military crimes
                        4) changes were made to the Criminal Code yesterday. Whoever does not come is their decision. But running today will be much more difficult than in 1941

                        The spring draft takes place exclusively according to agendas. Yes, and it’s almost impossible for a yesterday’s schoolboy to mow down, if only to sit in the village with his grandmother, or abroad. Although I have never heard that someone’s documents were checked on the street.
                      3. your1970
                        your1970 22 September 2022 06: 59
                        0
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        The spring call is held exclusively by agenda.

                        To blame repeat repeat :fee read in the spring and understood so - that the bill has already been adopted. Sinful, I confess, everything is on the agenda - as it was
                2. Dikson
                  Dikson 21 September 2022 13: 38
                  0
                  Tickets to Turkey and Israel are sold out ... until November ..))) And on the sites they write (unconfirmed) - almost all - men 25-30 years old .. They probably lie .. On the other hand .. - before it was necessary to do all this ! Immediately after the first failures .. - in order to train the fighters, so that the rotation of the units was .. Otherwise, as he wrote, at the very beginning, it turns out that way .. - they knocked out specialists and double basses, and now they will start throwing cannon fodder .. Immediately it was necessary cook .. mix newcomers into the shelled fighters .. Okay. what to cluck now. The country must support its soldiers. Especially at a time like this.
          3. Hitriy Zhuk
            Hitriy Zhuk 21 September 2022 10: 25
            -2
            Quote: AlexGa
            fugitives from mobilization

            It was necessary to cover the border in February.
            Now they would be allowed to clear the minefields of those who died.
            1. NERV
              NERV 21 September 2022 11: 55
              -6
              Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
              Quote: AlexGa
              fugitives from mobilization

              It was necessary to cover the border in February.
              Now they would be allowed to clear the minefields of those who died.

              specifically you will be one of the first to be allowed into the fields
              1. Tzar
                Tzar 21 September 2022 12: 24
                +2
                Do you mine fields in the former Ukraine? Original!
          4. Dmitry Potapov
            Dmitry Potapov 21 September 2022 14: 17
            +1
            The Lord is with you! Paraphrasing the words of Gazmanov's song "cons" to the enemy's army, only "pluses" to ours!
        2. Blacksmith 55
          Blacksmith 55 21 September 2022 09: 41
          +21
          Just about a week ago I wrote in a comment that Russia needs the consolidation of the entire society and the transfer of industry to a military footing.
          There were so many criticisms.
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 21 September 2022 10: 26
            +4
            And what did you expect from liberals and Banderva? So it’s not surprising, I’ve already walked through the darkest, after the shelling of Valuyek, how many vacations I spent there with my uncle and my relatives still live there, but we haven’t seen each other for a long time, but we communicate.
          2. Beetle1991
            Beetle1991 21 September 2022 12: 52
            +2
            Just about a week ago I wrote in a comment that Russia needs the consolidation of the entire society and the transfer of industry to a military footing.
            So much criticism

            Since the spring, Strelkov has been talking about mobilization: sooner or later, mobilization is inevitable, the sooner the better.
            Whatever they called him: an alarmist-all-propagator.
            He looked into the water.
          3. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 21 September 2022 12: 54
            +1
            Quote: smith 55
            Just about a week ago I wrote in a comment that Russia needs the consolidation of the entire society and the transfer of industry to a military footing.
            There were so many criticisms.

            And why do you think that the people generally need some kind of consolidation? People can sit in the village, harvest the harvest, what for does he need your mobilization? The same garbage was before the First World War, they also powdered the brains of the people, threw them into a meat grinder.
        3. Plate
          Plate 21 September 2022 09: 44
          +20
          Quote: AKuzenka
          I expected such a decision, but still, unexpectedly! Good luck and courage to all of us!
          Interestingly, the minusers will become pluses. Back in April, he wrote that mobilization was inevitable. They downvoted it so badly. And common sense replaces the minusers with jingoism?

          In my opinion, mobilization is objectively not needed. This, in my opinion, is a last resort, then only nuclear weapons. And this last resort is used, despite the fact that much less extreme ones have not been used: the destruction of infrastructure, the use of high-yield non-nuclear munitions (AVBPM, for example), the destruction of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, regardless of residential areas ... I consider the latter much more acceptable, than mobilization. But none of this was done.
          In addition, with a non-mobilized army, we could fight for a year, and 5 years, and 10. Are we not introducing a limitation on the duration of the operation by mobilization ourselves?
          Mobilization makes sense only if after Ukraine we are going to move on to larger conflicts. One Ukraine, we could well knock down without mobilization, despite all the assistance provided to her.
          1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
            Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 21 September 2022 09: 50
            +40
            Mobilization makes sense only if after Ukraine we are going to move on to larger conflicts.

            We may not have intended. But there are other players besides us. Perhaps there was information about the readiness of the enemy to send his troops to the territory of the former Ukraine.
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 21 September 2022 10: 08
              +14
              Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
              Perhaps there was information about the readiness of the enemy to send his troops to the territory of the former Ukraine.

              The Poles have been ready for a long time. Yes, and the "peacekeeping contingent from the UN" is rushing here
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 21 September 2022 10: 35
                +6
                Quote: Egoza
                Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                Perhaps there was information about the readiness of the enemy to send his troops to the territory of the former Ukraine.
                The Poles have been ready for a long time. Yes, and the "peacekeeping contingent from the UN" is rushing here

                In addition, there was already information that the composition of the so-called Armed Forces of Ukraine already now consists of 50% of professional military personnel of the NATO Armed Forces and with NATO weapons under the guise of supposedly foreign volunteers and citizens of Ukraine. And the native Armed Forces of Ukraine are just Ukrainian "cannon fodder".

                The Pentagon/NATO needs the "legalization" of the cleansing by foreigners of the entire territory of Ukraine, together with the Crimea, from the Russian and pro-Russian contingent among the local and alien population in Ukraine in general.
                To do this, the United States only needs an official reason for countries under the NATO Charter. to untie his hands and hit head-on in Russia.

                This is a US war against Russia for US world domination as Washington's globalist Nazi project.
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                2. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 21 September 2022 11: 45
                  +2
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  .......This is a US war against Russia for world domination of the US as a globalist Nazi project in Washington.

                  That is why we hear how foreigners say that they must endure hardships and various restrictions. They do it for themselves, not for dill. True, gay Europeans also dream of participating in the plunder of Russia.
                  Greetings, hi Tatyana
              2. Romario_Argo
                Romario_Argo 21 September 2022 11: 38
                0
                The Poles have been ready for a long time. Yes, and the "peacekeeping contingent from the UN"

                let's see,
                how will they do it, without air defense, aviation, under the blows of Caliber and Iskander
            2. Plate
              Plate 21 September 2022 10: 08
              +7
              Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
              Perhaps there was information about the readiness of the enemy to send his troops to the territory of the former Ukraine.

              If so, then there is a point, but only on the other side of similar measures to prepare for a direct conflict with Russia is imperceptible. At a minimum, bomb shelters would be massively put in order.
            3. Pereira
              Pereira 21 September 2022 10: 23
              +3
              Late. The owners of BU have long been introduced.
            4. Ros 56
              Ros 56 21 September 2022 10: 28
              +5
              Duc, and who will treat the Poles, they are already insolently fighting in tank crews, and not only they
          2. kamakama
            kamakama 21 September 2022 09: 51
            +6
            To put 1 person on 10 meters of the front, 100 thousand people are needed. well, simple mathematics, not even counting the garrison units and various supplies, artillerymen, air defense. Here, count
            1. Plate
              Plate 21 September 2022 09: 55
              +14
              Quote: kamakama
              To put the 1st person ... you need 100 thousand people.

              According to this logic, we, with the involvement of the entire population under the supply of the military, can nominate no more than 1 people. 450/145 = 000.
              Quote: kamakama
              So count

              That's what I counted.
              1. kamakama
                kamakama 21 September 2022 10: 24
                +1
                umm, the population divided by 100 people in the grouping gets ... the number of people who feed one soldier. Or what would you like to write?
                1. Plate
                  Plate 21 September 2022 10: 46
                  +3
                  You may not have explained the formula correctly. request
                  1. kamakama
                    kamakama 21 September 2022 10: 53
                    +1
                    1000 kilometers is the approximate length of the line of contact, as stated. A squad of 10 people holds a front up to 100 meters. Therefore, one person is needed per 10 meters in the first approximation at a distance of 1000 km = 100 people. And that's just the regular foot soldiers
            2. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 21 September 2022 12: 57
              -1
              Quote: kamakama
              To put 1 person on 10 meters of the front, 100 thousand people are needed. well, simple mathematics, not even counting the garrison units and various supplies, artillerymen, air defense. Here, count

              Do you have a million-kilometer front?
              1. kamakama
                kamakama 21 September 2022 13: 02
                +1
                E mine, people have already forgotten how to count ... It’s definitely impossible to call on such people, they will put everyone nearby. So, math, 3rd grade. 10 meters * 100 people = 000 meters of front = 1000 kilometers of front
          3. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 21 September 2022 09: 59
            -2
            Quote: Plate
            Quote: AKuzenka
            I expected such a decision, but still, unexpectedly! Good luck and courage to all of us!
            Interestingly, the minusers will become pluses. Back in April, he wrote that mobilization was inevitable. They downvoted it so badly. And common sense replaces the minusers with jingoism?

            In my opinion, mobilization is objectively not needed. This, in my opinion, is a last resort, then only nuclear weapons. And this last resort is used, despite the fact that much less extreme ones have not been used: the destruction of infrastructure, the use of high-yield non-nuclear munitions (AVBPM, for example), the destruction of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, regardless of residential areas ... I consider the latter much more acceptable, than mobilization. But none of this was done.
            In addition, with a non-mobilized army, we could fight for a year, and 5 years, and 10. Are we not introducing a limitation on the duration of the operation by mobilization ourselves?
            Mobilization makes sense only if after Ukraine we are going to move on to larger conflicts. One Ukraine, we could well knock down without mobilization, despite all the assistance provided to her.

            Could not. rollback to the borders showed it
            1. Plate
              Plate 21 September 2022 10: 04
              +25
              The rollback to the borders showed that it is necessary to use the arsenal that is not being used. Once again: strikes on bridges and power plants, railway stations, road junctions, depots... on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, even if they are hiding under a residential building. In my opinion, this is more acceptable than mobilization, even if it is partial. But we have immediately transition to at least.
              1. saigon
                saigon 21 September 2022 10: 15
                +13
                The potential that is not used is good, but the charter is even better.
                So, the charter clearly states how much, say, a regiment can defend territories and on which front it can attack.
                So it is necessary to fulfill the first head of the requirements of the charters, and not invent all sorts of crap.
              2. Alexander_Schlidt
                Alexander_Schlidt 21 September 2022 11: 02
                +3
                Quote: Plate
                The rollback to the borders showed that it is necessary to use the arsenal that is not being used. Once again: strikes on bridges and power plants, railway stations, road junctions, depots... on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, even if they are hiding under a residential building. In my opinion, this is more acceptable than mobilization, even if it is partial. But we have immediately transition to at least.

                Partial mobilization is some kind of half-measure... We went for 8 years to direct intervention, after another 7 months we went to the point that the contingent of troops in Ukraine is too small. How long will it take for us to realize that we need to burn everything with fire?...
                1. Damir Shamaev
                  Damir Shamaev 21 September 2022 13: 12
                  +2
                  in 3 months, new units will be at the front, we will be fooling around for 3 months, then we will announce mobilization, maybe people like me will be taken without military service
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              3. Ronrew
                Ronrew 21 September 2022 12: 51
                -1
                He wrote the same thing about attacks on infrastructure, got a bunch of "minuses". But partial mobilization was needed back in May or early summer, when it became clear that the "West" would not leave its semi-colony without weapons and mercenaries.
                1. Plate
                  Plate 21 September 2022 15: 19
                  +1
                  At the beginning of the CBO, I also did not agree with the blows. But since the circumstances have changed... Now, if the strikes had not helped, I would have already become a supporter of all kinds of mobilizations and other similar decisions. But they didn't even try. request
                  1. Ronrew
                    Ronrew 21 September 2022 15: 26
                    -1
                    The General Staff should have thought ahead. I hope now that the rose-colored glasses have "slept" the NWO will reach a new level and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be defeated.
          4. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 21 September 2022 10: 02
            +24
            Quote: Plate
            In my opinion, mobilization is objectively not needed. This, in my opinion, is a last resort, then only nuclear weapons. And this last resort is used, despite the fact that much less extreme ones have not been used: the destruction of infrastructure, the use of high-yield non-nuclear munitions (AVBPM, for example), the destruction of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, regardless of residential areas ... I consider the latter much more acceptable, than mobilization. But none of this was done.
            In addition, with a non-mobilized army, we could fight for a year, and 5 years, and 10. Are we not introducing a limitation on the duration of the operation by mobilization ourselves?
            Mobilization makes sense only if after Ukraine we are going to move on to larger conflicts. One Ukraine, we could well knock down without mobilization, despite all the assistance provided to her.

            Controversial assertion. So far, even conscripts will not be sent to the front line. It should be noted that not a general mobilization is carried out, but a partial one, according to certain VUS. Now, when the referendums are held and the territories participating in it become part of Russia, the strike on their territory will already be regarded as a blow on the territory of Russia, and this already leads to the fact that Russia will withdraw from CBO mode and the implementation mechanism will come into play Military Doctrine with all the measures provided for in it to repel aggression. That's when the entire infrastructure of the aggressor will be knocked out, and the very leadership of the ukrobanderlogs becomes a legitimate target. If the Western fools do not come to their senses, then strikes can be carried out beyond the borders of Ukraine as part of preventive measures in order to forestall "rash actions."
            1. Plate
              Plate 21 September 2022 10: 06
              +12
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              If the Western fools do not come to their senses, then strikes can be carried out beyond the borders of Ukraine as part of preventive measures in order to forestall "rash actions."

              So this is a direct conflict with NATO countries. Listen, maybe you're an oligarch, and you have a bunker that you are guaranteed to survive in? If so, then I don't have one. This is all pretty scary.
              1. Lis_Domino
                Lis_Domino 21 September 2022 11: 14
                +1
                this war baby
                no one promised that we would live forever
                1. Plate
                  Plate 21 September 2022 11: 20
                  +5
                  Well, actually, religion promised me, while my mind was a little less strong than it is now. But I read the textbooks and realized that the method of immortality promised by them would not be. But the desire remains.
              2. Tatyana Makarova
                Tatyana Makarova 21 September 2022 11: 17
                +2
                // So this is a direct conflict with NATO countries. Listen, maybe you're an oligarch, and you have a bunker that you are guaranteed to survive in? If so, then I don't have one. All this is quite scary. Oh, what will we eat, Oh, how to pay for an apartment? It's scary to live. Well, Wu is not the Wise Minnow, who lived and trembled and trembled when he died.
                1. Plate
                  Plate 21 September 2022 11: 34
                  +3
                  Quote: Tatyana Makarova
                  Forgive me, but in every comment you have only oohs and aahs.

                  Why forgive? The truth is not offended.
                  I really am afraid of a lot of things and I try to pour water on the militant ardor of the problems accompanying the implementation of the same militant ideas, so that it cools down a bit.
                  An article about mobilization, using its example, I will write. I consider it a wrong decision and I am afraid that it will expand if the conflict goes far (with the direct involvement of the armed forces of NATO countries). I fear that he is just in connection with her and may go far. Remember, Germany started the First World War, declaring Russian mobilization the reason. Here, of course, it is unlikely that everything will be so straightforward, but the message, I think, was caught. In the end, I am afraid that, since we have embarked on this path, in the end I will be called up as a unit quite suitable for combat training. What is there to hide: what is, is. But if this still happens, then I will not run and go where they say. Maybe I'll shudder a little on the road.
                  I hope you also take a similar position and will not run from anyone if the Motherland considers that it needs you. Well, while you will be booing under your breath or shouting "Hurrah!" it doesn't matter anymore, in my opinion.
              3. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 21 September 2022 12: 30
                +3
                Quote: Plate
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                If the Western fools do not come to their senses, then strikes can be carried out beyond the borders of Ukraine as part of preventive measures in order to forestall "rash actions."

                So this is a direct conflict with NATO countries. FROM

                NATO countries are already involved in this conflict. The supply of weapons, intelligence data, planning military operations at the level of the NATO Chiefs of Staff, training ukrobanderlogs at NATO training bases, participation in sanctions aimed at undermining the Russian economy, etc., can hardly be called "ritual dances".
                Quote: Plate
                Listen, maybe you're an oligarch, and you have a bunker that you are guaranteed to survive in? If so, then I don't have one.
                No, not an oligarch. Militarypension. But I have a dacha with a stove and a well with water not far from the forest and the river. So with potatoes, game and fish, heat and water, the issue will be solved at the very least.
                Quote: Plate
                This is all pretty scary.
                Yes, no one wants such a development of events that the war in Ukraine would develop into a third world war, but the fact is that when the methods of persuasion in the framework of counteraction are exhausted, then a period of measures of influence begins. In this case, the situation can still be assessed, maybe as an extreme one, but still an attempt at persuasion. The point of no return has not yet been passed, and the West still has some time to turn on its head and play back.
              4. Incvizitor
                Incvizitor 21 September 2022 13: 50
                +1
                To begin with, it would be worth declaring that the war with the army of the Russian Federation and outside the borders of Russia is equivalent to a full-fledged war with the state and will be used throughout the country by the aggressor, this will slightly cool those who want to climb 404.
            2. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 21 September 2022 10: 06
              +8
              Controversial assertion. So far, even conscripts will not be sent to the front line.
              Don't you remember, at the beginning of the CBO they sent it. Only after the roar of the GDP they were withdrawn. And then, they lit up in front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
            3. dnestr74
              dnestr74 21 September 2022 10: 13
              +6
              Increase the deadline by at least six months, after a year of service, defend the Motherland!
              1. Titus_2
                Titus_2 21 September 2022 12: 35
                +8
                Young people have nothing to do there due to the fact that they have not yet left offspring and this is our human resource. Yes, and it’s disgusting for me to realize that the Russians are leaving, but I look at the streets and see a bunch of migrants and Armenians trade ... Ehh ...
              2. Crimea_
                Crimea_ 21 September 2022 13: 43
                0
                An increase in the service life would make it possible to partially replace contract soldiers in the field.
            4. AdAstra
              AdAstra 21 September 2022 10: 23
              +22
              And before that, strikes on the territories of the Belgorod, Kursk, Bryansk regions are not strikes on the territory of the Russian Federation?
              1. connoisseur
                connoisseur 21 September 2022 11: 00
                -1
                And before that, strikes on the territories of the Belgorod, Kursk, Bryansk regions are not strikes on the territory of the Russian Federation?

                Apparently, according to higher experts, this is something else
              2. Crimea_
                Crimea_ 21 September 2022 13: 45
                +1
                Classified as terrorist attacks. Still, Belgorod is not being ironed by MLRS ...
                1. AdAstra
                  AdAstra 21 September 2022 13: 47
                  +3
                  Yes? How interesting, but if the DPR becomes a subject, then there will not be terrorist attacks?
          5. Vita vko
            Vita vko 21 September 2022 10: 02
            +11
            Quote: Plate
            Mobilization makes sense only if after Ukraine we are going to move on to larger conflicts. We could well knock down one Ukraine even without mobilization, despite all the assistance provided to it

            LDNR have long exhausted their mobile resources. It is necessary not only to withdraw them from the front for rest and regrouping, but also to ensure the safety of referendums. The place of the LDNR troops will be taken by Russian specialists called for mobilization, while those recalled from the front will not only rest, but will also organize referendums.
            In my opinion, everything is simple and logical. It is a pity that this thought was not voiced in the speech. And then people have developed defeatist illusions.
            The most interesting will begin today at the UN General Assembly. Something tells me that Putin's words will be heard in every report.
            1. alex967
              alex967 21 September 2022 11: 00
              +5
              The referendum until 27 is already over. When will people be called?
          6. yuriy55
            yuriy55 21 September 2022 10: 02
            +20
            Quote: Plate
            In my opinion, mobilization is objectively not needed.

            This is in your opinion. And, from the point of view of the need to rotate units and units for effective dedication, the mobilization of the right specialists is simply necessary. People work for wear and tear, and rest and replenishment of staff is a must.
            Only, I repeat this constantly, it is necessary to provide this mobilization replenishment with everything necessary. The military-industrial complex is obliged to work in an enhanced mode.
            In addition, the Ukrainian infrastructure must be drained of blood, de-energized, immobilized and deprived of control.
            1. Plate
              Plate 21 September 2022 10: 11
              +8
              Quote: yuriy55
              This is in your opinion.

              Yes. I always try to point out that everything voiced by me is my personal opinion, and not some expert opinions and the like.
              Quote: yuriy55
              In addition, the Ukrainian infrastructure must be drained of blood, de-energized, immobilized and deprived of control.

              It seems to me that if this is done, then mobilization will not be needed, which I wrote about. How to disrupt referendums if the supply of ammunition does not work for you?
              1. yuriy55
                yuriy55 21 September 2022 10: 20
                +2
                Quote: Plate
                It seems to me that if this is done, then mobilization will not be needed, which I wrote about.

                And I noted:
                Quote: yuriy55
                People work for wear and tear, and rest and replenishment of staff is a must.

                hi
            2. Vita vko
              Vita vko 21 September 2022 10: 19
              +2
              Quote: yuriy55
              Also,

              The main thing is to have time to mobilize and regroup before the first snow.
              And after the first snow, start chasing the Nazis like hares. The hunting season is officially open - however soldier
              Bandera is not only a valuable NATO-standard fur, but also fifty kg of fertilizer.
              1. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 21 September 2022 14: 25
                +2
                Quote: Vita VKO
                Bandera is not only a valuable NATO-standard fur, but also fifty kg of fertilizer.

                Well, it’s understandable about fertilizers ... but where did you spot the fur on Bandera? request
                1. Vita vko
                  Vita vko 21 September 2022 15: 15
                  0
                  Quote: Nikolaevich I
                  where did you spot the fur on Bandera?

                  Bandera equipment, weapons and equipment are easily converted into supplies and other necessary "furs" needed at the front.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 21 September 2022 15: 29
                    +2
                    Quote: Vita VKO
                    Bandera equipment, weapons and equipment are easily converted into supplies and other necessary "furs" needed at the front.

                    It reeks of looting. Up to 15 years.
                    1. Vita vko
                      Vita vko 21 September 2022 21: 18
                      0
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      It reeks of looting.

                      Trophies are sacred at all times. No one talks about personal enrichment.
                      The entire army of the LDNR has been fighting with captured weapons for 8 years. And he fights well. Clearly, it was not with sticks or slingshots that they held back NATO forces for 8 years without deliveries of modern military equipment and heavy weapons from Russia.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 21 September 2022 21: 32
                        0
                        You have weapons, equipment and equipment that are converted into some kind of fur.
                      2. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 22 September 2022 13: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Vita VKO
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        It reeks of looting.

                        Trophies are sacred at all times. No one talks about personal enrichment.
                        The entire army of the LDNR has been fighting with captured weapons for 8 years. And he fights well. Clearly, it was not with sticks or slingshots that they held back NATO forces for 8 years without deliveries of modern military equipment and heavy weapons from Russia.

                        But what, there were some kind of offensives for the last 5 years? Opponents just sat on the defensive, exchanging fire
          7. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 21 September 2022 10: 04
            +7
            One Ukraine, we could well knock down without mobilization, despite all the assistance provided to her.
            Entirely and completely agree with you. Not all funds have been used. In this regard, there are questions, many questions.
            1. connoisseur
              connoisseur 21 September 2022 11: 08
              -3
              In this regard, there are questions, many questions.

              And in the light of these questions, a new question arises: will partial mobilization help us?
              1. connoisseur
                connoisseur 21 September 2022 11: 32
                +8
                And in the light of these questions, a new question arises: will partial mobilization help us?

                Now I was listening to the head of the government of the DPR, V. Khutsenko. He says that they have problems with lack of water and little gasoline, which is expensive. They barely persuaded someone to supply them cheaper gasoline. So maybe it is necessary, together with "partial mobilization", to urgently tear off the heads of your friends who in the rear are immeasurably cashing in on human grief ???
                1. Akuzenka
                  Akuzenka 21 September 2022 11: 59
                  +3
                  So maybe it is necessary, together with "partial mobilization", to urgently tear off the heads of your friends who in the rear are immeasurably cashing in on human grief ???
                  Read about the supply of the army of the Republic of Ingushetia in WWI and it will become clear to you why and why this is happening and that no one and no one will tear off their heads.
                  1. connoisseur
                    connoisseur 21 September 2022 12: 53
                    0
                    You misunderstood, rhetorical question. And the fact that everything will also be clear without reading historical materials
                  2. Plate
                    Plate 21 September 2022 15: 22
                    +2
                    Oh, I remember reading a story on this topic. Some bourgeois official from the army ordered shells at a very, very high price. But the bourgeois turned out to be a rare breed and said that he was ready to supply shells to his country much cheaper. No matter how much the official asked to sell him more expensive shells, the bourgeois did not agree to rob his army. As a result, he never received an order: he went to a more common subspecies of these creatures.
          8. Arnok
            Arnok 21 September 2022 10: 16
            +10
            And this last resort is used, despite the fact that much less extreme ones have not been used: the destruction of infrastructure, the use of high-yield non-nuclear munitions (AVBPM, for example), the destruction of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, regardless of residential areas ..

            These are correct thoughts. If you don't start doing this. If the nature of the NWO is not changed, then all this mobilization will be meaningless. And let me tell you, it's a failure.
            We have to figure out mom don't worry, taking off the white gloves. Otherwise, how can we explain the losses in the ranks of 300000 mobilized? In words, "We protect the lives of civilians"?
            1. connoisseur
              connoisseur 21 September 2022 13: 41
              -1
              If the nature of the NWO is not changed, then all this mobilization will be meaningless. And let me tell you, it's a failure.

              I will answer briefly: it will not change, because it is not profitable for someone.
          9. Monarchist
            Monarchist 21 September 2022 11: 32
            0
            Infrastructure urgently destroy, bomb all power plants and railways. I don’t know if our laser overexposure can blind NATO satellites.
            1. stankow
              stankow 21 September 2022 12: 13
              +1
              They can, but they cover the strategic nuclear forces, not the SV
          10. Yngvar
            Yngvar 21 September 2022 11: 39
            +6
            Mobilization is now a necessity! Considering how Marked Mishka, Alkan Yolkin and Mr. Taburetkin "worked" to destroy a military education (and most importantly, to destroy junior officers), specialists are extremely insufficient! Both in terms of team skills, and experience in working on hardware, understanding the tactical situation, the ability to save personnel and equipment.
            Therefore, mobilization, if not to the "forefront" (by age), then at least to training centers, which are also lacking! Mobilization is also needed in the economy of war - who, at what enterprises will produce weapons if they have converted "to the handle"? Who will organize these productions - Manturov? And what about financing our "beloved" oligarchy with the Kudrins, Nabiulina and other Siluanovs? In general, my opinion is that for a start it is urgent to restore SMERSH and deal with the issues of the "fifth column"!
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 21 September 2022 13: 04
              +1
              What you propose is a change in the socio-political system. SMERSH has nothing to do with it. This Office of the People's Commissariat of Defense was engaged in counterintelligence, saboteurs and partly 500mi, if they intersected with the main activity, in the front line. Other divisions of the NKVD-NKGB were engaged in the enemies of the People. SMERSH, subordinate to the People's Commissar of Internal Affairs, also carried out counterintelligence activities in the rear.
              1. Yngvar
                Yngvar 22 September 2022 05: 36
                0
                I agree! But you will also agree that since the time of Chubais, there have been quite a few "friends" - partners in departments. And no one bothers our liberalism in the government and ministries ... I assume that they do not work for Russia and its citizens.
                I do not propose to change the socio-political system, it is necessary to change the financial and economic vector, with the replacement of ideologists and leaders in this area! What kind of mobilization can there be without changing the financial and economic component?!
                1. Essex62
                  Essex62 22 September 2022 10: 24
                  +1
                  I think it’s not about the settled business, but precisely in the ranks. Capitalism, with its idea of ​​indefatigable money-grubbing, does not imply other figures. It was built according to Western patterns, where did the experience of a "market" economy come from in a socialist state? More precisely, the general buy-sell. Because industrial development was immediately blocked to us. There is no need to separate the Kremlin brigade from the Nabiulins and Kudrins, they are inseparable.
                  Partial mobilization will not give anything. It is necessary to change the concept itself and call a spade a spade. Hit with full force, since this is an enemy and admit that this is a war and not a police operation. That's when the mechanisms will turn on.
                  1. Yngvar
                    Yngvar 22 September 2022 11: 36
                    0
                    I agree 100%! But only on this site they will not be allowed to discuss ... About two weeks ago, a comment under another article left approximately the same content - they wiped it out!
                    What will happen after the completion of this so-called special operation? After the guys return from the fronts ...
                    The Russian people can endure anything, except for wild injustice!
                    1. Essex62
                      Essex62 22 September 2022 12: 09
                      0
                      I will disappoint you, comrade. Especially in its current form, purged of passionaries and divided by the thirst for consumerism and profit, the Russian people are patient, to the point of disgust and injustice, meekly endured, no longer measured. And swallow more. The unique situation that developed in 1917, when dissatisfaction with injustice, resulted not only in civil disobedience, in the creation of the first and only state in history of the dictatorship of the worker and genuine democracy. It did everything, through the upbringing of children, to eradicate the animal nature of the egocentrism of homo-hapiens, but at some point, it stopped weeding and died.
        4. indeveral
          indeveral 21 September 2022 09: 59
          +23
          Strelkov has been talking about mobilization since February, so they watered him in shit. And it turned out from the very beginning that he assessed this conflict and the forces of the parties much more adequately than our civil services. What pleases, the authorities cut off the path of retreat for themselves. Victory for our guys!
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 21 September 2022 10: 29
            +11
            This is yes.
            1. Strelkov has said a lot in recent years. But from the point of view of military analytics, he is ready to replace Shoigu right now. Apart from parades, of course. Shoigu is good at parades.
            2. And what about the power is good. There was a suspicion that they were trying to give back, which is why they dragged on for half a year. Now the authorities will have to be together with the people, no matter how disgusted they are.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 21 September 2022 10: 41
              +11
              Quote: Pereira
              2. And what about the power is good. There was a suspicion that they were trying to give back, which is why they dragged on for half a year. Now the authorities will have to be together with the people, no matter how disgusted they are.

              Why do they need it? So far I don't see any such intention.
              1. Pereira
                Pereira 21 September 2022 10: 47
                +4
                And who is talking about aspiration? Here the question is not the preservation of property and the opportunity to live out the rest of the days in Miami, but personal survival.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 21 September 2022 11: 04
                  +5
                  Quote: Pereira
                  And who is talking about aspiration? Here the question is not the preservation of property and the opportunity to live out the rest of the days in Miami, but personal survival.

                  Surprisingly, they don't seem to think that way. Otherwise, at least the retirement age would be returned .. not to mention many other things .. for example, responsibility among the top managers .. about social policy, when the rate of extinction of citizens is horrifying and unparalleled in history .. I think that isolation from the people keeps the thought of personal survival out of their minds..I think they think they're fine anyway..well, they won't be able to travel abroad..for a while..
                  1. Pereira
                    Pereira 21 September 2022 12: 31
                    +1
                    Exactly. A temporary travel ban is the ultimate sacrifice on their part. Was.
                    Now it will be different.
                    1. Svarog
                      Svarog 21 September 2022 12: 36
                      +3
                      Quote: Pereira
                      Exactly. A temporary travel ban is the ultimate sacrifice on their part. Was.
                      Now it will be different.

                      I am tormented by vague doubts ... or rather, I am sure that it will not be otherwise. Such is the system, breaking it means taking a big risk .. and going against the "elite" ..
                  2. Hypertension
                    Hypertension 21 September 2022 13: 21
                    +1
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Otherwise, at least the retirement age would be returned ..

                    That's something, but the need to raise the retirement age is now more expedient than ever. They spent a lot of money, and how much more they will spend. Here, God forbid, as if they did not raise again. And don't worry about extinction. Obtaining citizenship is simplified as they can. Citizens will, be calm. And they will all be Russian. Because "Russian" is a state of mind, as propaganda tells us.
                    1. Svarog
                      Svarog 21 September 2022 14: 04
                      +4
                      Quote: Hyperion

                      That's something, and the need to raise the retirement age is now more expedient than ever. The sea spent money, and how much more they will spend

                      The fact that they know how to "spend" money .. there is no doubt .. but why should I get into debt because of this and plow an extra five years? And why is no one responsible for when they spent it in the wrong place .. well, they bought another Bentley for themselves, the tenth in a row .. some kind of official .. and why not impose an additional tax on the oligarchs? Aa .. the oligarchs can’t touch their friends .. otherwise they’ll get angry .. but the people need to be cut .. only there’s no wool .. only debts ..
                      And don't worry about extinction. Obtaining citizenship is simplified as they can. Citizens will, be calm. And they will all be Russian. Because "Russian" is a state of mind, as propaganda tells us.

                      Yes, I was in Moscow for NG, that year I also saw a state of mind when Russian girls arrange performances for Tajiks and Uzbeks .. despite the fact that I practically didn’t see Slavic faces on the Christmas tree .. more precisely, they staged a show for "dear" guests..
                      Soon it will be like this all over the country .. The prospect is still the same .. And of course, no one is to blame that the Russians do not want to give birth and that they are dying out .. In general, we need to unite .. comrades are going the right way ..
                      1. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 21 September 2022 14: 43
                        +4
                        Quote: Svarog
                        And why is no one responsible for when they spent it in the wrong place .. well, they bought another Bentley for themselves, the tenth in a row .. some kind of official .. and why not impose an additional tax on the oligarchs? Aa .. the oligarchs can’t touch their friends .. otherwise they’ll get angry .. but the people need to be cut .. only there’s no wool .. only debts ..

                        You asked yourself, and you answered yourself.
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Yes, I was in Moscow for NG, that year I also saw the state of mind

                        Why is Moscow there ... Already in the remote villages of the "new Russians" pretty much ...
                        Quote: Svarog
                        In general, we need to rally .. comrades are going the right way ..

                        Everything is so ... And nothing else. And who is against - a foreign agent and tsipsoshnik.
                      2. Plate
                        Plate 21 September 2022 15: 26
                        0
                        Quote: Svarog
                        And of course, no one is to blame that Russians do not want to give birth and that they are dying out.

                        Well, since children are not born, it is necessary to start growing them in test tubes at specialized factories. Seriously, it seems to me that we will never solve demographic problems with conventional methods. Here it is necessary to use what the NTR gave us.
                    2. VasyaRules
                      VasyaRules 21 September 2022 14: 13
                      +1
                      They brought a lot of Ulugbeks and will bring more.
          2. Hitriy Zhuk
            Hitriy Zhuk 21 September 2022 10: 30
            -8
            Quote: indeveral
            Shooters

            Quote: indeveral
            he was covered in shit


            Rvanych was poured with shit because, having given half of the DPR to that side, he famously escaped to the Russian Federation.
            After that, any of his words is perceived as, at best, a bunch in a puddle.
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 21 September 2022 10: 59
              +11
              Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
              Rvanych was poured with shit because, having given half of the DPR to that side, he famously escaped to the Russian Federation.
              After that, any of his words is perceived as, at best, a bunch in a puddle.

              Were you there when he "ran away"? And remember, neither Givi nor Motorola ever spoke badly about Strelkov. Draw your own conclusions.
              1. Hitriy Zhuk
                Hitriy Zhuk 21 September 2022 12: 33
                -4
                Well, yes, "it should have been so", and "he is a Gego (Ukrainian?), because he is a gladiolus."
          3. Alexander_Schlidt
            Alexander_Schlidt 21 September 2022 11: 08
            +6
            Quote: indeveral
            Strelkov has been talking about mobilization since February, so they watered him in shit.

            So you can remember Zhirinovsky, he said 8 years ago that PMCs and prisoners should be sent to the Donbass, everyone was laughing so hard.
            1. stankow
              stankow 21 September 2022 12: 15
              +5
              Zx, how to miss Volfovich ... They didn’t appreciate him!
        5. Vend
          Vend 21 September 2022 10: 12
          +2
          Quote: AKuzenka
          I expected such a decision, but still, unexpectedly! Good luck and courage to all of us!
          Interestingly, the minusers will become pluses. Back in April, he wrote that mobilization was inevitable. They downvoted it so badly. And common sense replaces the minusers with jingoism?

          I think now they will minus, only the trolls, who are far from Russia, and the minusers, the liberals, will be afraid.
          1. Plate
            Plate 21 September 2022 15: 27
            0
            Quote: Wend
            and the minusers of the liberals will be afraid.

            What is there to be afraid of? Cons / pluses seem to be anonymous, and even if not, then putting them is not punishable, it seems.
            1. Vend
              Vend 21 September 2022 16: 39
              0
              Quote: Plate
              Quote: Wend
              and the minusers of the liberals will be afraid.

              What is there to be afraid of? Cons / pluses seem to be anonymous, and even if not, then putting them is not punishable, it seems.

              For IT people, there is nothing anonymous on the Internet. laughing
        6. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 21 September 2022 10: 40
          +6
          The same thing ... The forum members shouted that we could manage without mobilization, mobilization would bring down our economy, etc.
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 21 September 2022 13: 28
            +3
            Quote: dmi.pris
            mobilization will bring down our economy, etc.

            The economy will definitely not be better from mobilization.
        7. flicker
          flicker 21 September 2022 10: 59
          +4
          Back in April, he wrote that mobilization is inevitable
          In April, it was excessive, since in May we won a local war with Ukraine.
          But gradually the war with Ukraine began to turn from a local one into a global one, as the collective West begins to participate more and more in it.
          ---
          That is why now partial mobilization is quite appropriate, maybe it should have been a little earlier, then we would not have had to retreat from near Kharkov.
          1. Alexander_Schlidt
            Alexander_Schlidt 21 September 2022 11: 11
            +1
            Quote: flicker
            That is why now partial mobilization is quite appropriate, maybe it should have been a little earlier, then we would not have had to retreat from near Kharkov.

            For me, all these events should have been carried out since February. And to hammer on the MTD with all means of defeat from the first minutes.
          2. Monarchist
            Monarchist 21 September 2022 11: 38
            +1
            It is impossible to almond and stand on ceremony more. Everything is serious! They want to destroy us! America secretly delivered long-range missiles to Kharkov. All NATO officers have been fighting for a long time and are stuffed with tons of electronics for satellites, NATO planes are constantly over the Black Sea. It's time to use our submarines.
          3. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 21 September 2022 11: 48
            +12
            Quote: flicker
            But gradually the war with Ukraine began to turn from a local one into a global one, as the collective West begins to participate more and more in it.

            And we have done nothing to stop the participation of the collective West. All our red lines turned out to be a worthless scarecrow. This scarecrow is easily accustomed to, and now the great politician is forced to announce mobilization.
        8. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 21 September 2022 11: 05
          +2
          Interestingly, the minusers will become pluses. Back in April, he wrote that mobilization was inevitable.
          The step was taken correctly, but for good, yes, since April, at the time of the obvious braking of the operation, it was necessary to carry out combat coordination of reservists and prepare industry for a sharp increase in the size of the army. From the hands, I would like to see anticipatory steps, a forecast of the development of the situation. It is important to make more efforts than the situation seems to require, then the flight of ambassadors would become irreversible and the flow of weapons would be much more modest. Perhaps there would no longer be a subject of supply.
        9. guerilla707
          guerilla707 21 September 2022 11: 20
          +12
          It is, of course, inevitable, but there are a couple of questions: where is the active army, out of about 150.000 million in the zone of its conduct, well, plus 50.000 is support, rear (mto, rembats, food, fuel, etc.), of these 150.000, about 50.000 is volunteers, Russians, Cossacks, guards grew up, riot police, leopards, volunteers and militia of the ldnr, as a result we have 100.000 air force, the rest are where? retirement. Well, the second question: what about our command in the General Staff, at the headquarters of our headquarters, these mu will remain .... e?, if so, then wait for another second, and then a third wave of mobilization, and still about shouigu "what a disgusting face"
          1. stankow
            stankow 21 September 2022 12: 18
            +1
            All of them to the front. Waiting for hour "H"
          2. AdAstra
            AdAstra 21 September 2022 12: 27
            +1
            Perhaps only on paper. We have a lot of things only on paper.
          3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 September 2022 12: 52
            +3
            Quote: guerrilla707
            but there are a couple of questions: where is the active army, out of about a million

            Of the approximately one million, the land army (all) is as much as 280 thousand people.
            1. guerilla707
              guerilla707 21 September 2022 13: 58
              +2
              But no, 280k is only infantry, tank troops separately, airborne separately, according to specialists, the regular army of the Russian Federation can easily be brought up to 400k in Ukraine, but it’s just mobiks that need to be replaced by those who left for the war in the rear, and not to the front , although as the regular season shows itself from the Vsrf, it’s just a shame, not like the mobs, leopards, and even more so the Wagners, how the roosters abandoned their equipment, the boys, the local population, don’t give a damn, the main thing is to carry their legs. And then our boys in the minority, and without the support of artillery, gave such a rebuff, and Wagner was generally on the offensive, and capture after capture. It's time to drive Shoigu and Ko vzashey, and hand over the reins to Prigogine.
              1. guerilla707
                guerilla707 21 September 2022 14: 28
                0
                Infantry of the Russian Federation - 280k, Airborne Forces of the Russian Federation - 40k, Marines of the Russian Federation - 35k, tank troops, rhbz, air force, + 100k for own, and will remain in reserve.
              2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 September 2022 18: 15
                +3
                Quote: guerrilla707
                Oh no

                And yes.
                Quote: guerrilla707
                280k is only infantry

                Again. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are composed of:
                VKS - 165 thousand people.
                Navy - about 150 thousand people.
                Strategic Missile Forces - 60 thousand people.
                This is already 375 thousand people. And then there are special forces - moreover, not special forces, but RKhBZ, engineering, signal troops, electronic warfare, railway, automobile, pipeline and a lot more to the heap - there are a lot of people there in general, in the railway alone - 28,5 thousand people, engineers - 40 thousand people, for example. In total, there are clearly more than 200 thousand. We add 4 thousand airborne forces and 280 - ground forces - that's the balance
          4. VasyaRules
            VasyaRules 21 September 2022 14: 16
            -3
            Well, where? Some stand and cover from China, some are in reserve, and some will drive 300 people. Otherwise, most of them will scatter
          5. 76SSSR
            76SSSR 21 September 2022 14: 18
            +1
            I myself wonder why, for example, the 76th Pskov and 336th Baltic are still not there ...
        10. Taimen
          Taimen 21 September 2022 11: 56
          +8
          It turns out that Igor Strelkov and our "sofa" experts were right, which cannot be said about the General Staff and his comrades. But here, at Strelkov's VO, some were recorded as criminals, and couch experts who, for mobilization, either minus or in every possible way showed their "illiteracy" compared to GSh. And it turned out that the guys were half a year smarter than some of the stripers and the "comrades" who joined them
        11. Sergey Kuzmin
          Sergey Kuzmin 21 September 2022 13: 37
          +3
          Interestingly, the minusers will become pluses. Back in April, he wrote that mobilization was inevitable. They downvoted it so badly. And common sense replaces the minusers with jingoism?
          Until recently, these "minus" and Strelkov-Girkin were christened "whiner" and "all-weeping" for the fact that he reasonably prepared public opinion for the need for mobilization. Those who exposed Strelkov-Girkin in this way are either disguised enemies, or who understand absolutely nothing about the basics of the Information War: Russian public opinion had to be prepared all this time for the fact that mobilization would have to be announced, and instead they strove everything with "enemy hats" throw, which, by the way, turned out to be much more agile both in the information war and in the conduct of mobilization. The fact that mobilization is being done in Russia has long been done in Ukraine. This is an indicator of how combat-ready and organized the enemy is compared to the Russian military-political leadership. To underestimate the enemy, to expose him as a nerd and a drug addict is a big mistake. The enemy - Ukronazism under the leadership of Zelensky is strong, and in order to fight a strong enemy, you need to prepare seriously and thoroughly. It's time to part with the "hats of jingoistic patriotism" and tirelessly forge victory.
        12. Living7111972
          Living7111972 21 September 2022 14: 14
          +3
          In 14, it was necessary to announce, return us with our commanders, newly formed units, everything that dispersed the Moscow Region in the 2000s. I don’t trust the current parade commanders, I don’t believe it. But I will go
          1. Monster_Fat
            Monster_Fat 21 September 2022 22: 43
            +1
            Yes, very good news about mobilization. Finally, patriots and others, their children and grandchildren, will go to the front to defend the "Russian world", drive the cowardly "Bandera" men, learn how effective Russian weapons are and not effectively Western ones. The death of Ukraine and NATO is now inevitable....
      2. engineer74
        engineer74 21 September 2022 10: 03
        +15
        Quote: AlexGa
        Our cause is just and victory will be ours!

        I expected such a decision, but still, unexpectedly! Good luck and courage to all of us!

        Only one thing: according to my purely personal impressions, those who are subject to conscription and those who stand behind the military-industrial complex machines are the same people ...
        IMHO
        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 21 September 2022 11: 11
          +7
          Only one thing: according to my purely personal impressions, those who are subject to conscription and those who stand behind the military-industrial complex machines are the same people ...
          Don't even hesitate. Well, they will not call on managers and not bankers, but those on whom they build their well-being.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 22 September 2022 13: 20
            0
            Quote: AKuzenka
            Only one thing: according to my purely personal impressions, those who are subject to conscription and those who stand behind the military-industrial complex machines are the same people ...
            Don't even hesitate. Well, they will not call on managers and not bankers, but those on whom they build their well-being.

            Military-industrial complex workers receive a reservation
            1. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 22 September 2022 15: 43
              0
              Military-industrial complex workers receive a reservation
              And besides the military-industrial complex, we have no enterprises left?
      3. free
        free 21 September 2022 10: 12
        +9
        Yes guys, to all of us who fall into these categories, the courage to accept the fallen share
      4. Evil 55
        Evil 55 21 September 2022 10: 32
        +12
        Now all the rotten liver will climb out of our bureaucrats and direct management .. They believed that the world was created for the bottom, for theft, nepotism and corruption. Let's see what will change and who will look after all this ... And yes, with the formation of SMERSH and rear guard units is clearly not worth pulling. hi
        1. Dedok
          Dedok 21 September 2022 11: 24
          +5
          Quote: Angry 55
          They believed that the world was created for the bottom, for theft, nepotism and corruption. Let's see what changes

          nothing will change, although "nothing lasts forever under the moon ..."
        2. Hypertension
          Hypertension 21 September 2022 13: 35
          +4
          Quote: Angry 55
          Now the whole rotten liver will climb out of our bureaucrats and direct management

          Nothing will come up. They just change their shoes and will support from afar. Like Degtyarev, who is "rushing to the front", yes ̶Z̶a̶r̶a̶t̶u̶s̶t̶r̶a̶ the governor's reservation does not allow.
    2. Dmitry Ivanov_8
      Dmitry Ivanov_8 21 September 2022 09: 28
      +34
      Since we started this mess, it's worth it to end with a victory.
      1. Paul Siebert
        Paul Siebert 21 September 2022 09: 50
        +9
        Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_8
        Since we started this mess, it's worth it to end with a victory.

        We didn't start it, but we will definitely finish it! good
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 21 September 2022 10: 11
          +4
          Quote: Paul Siebert
          We didn't start it, but we will definitely finish it!

          God bless! The main thing is not to be limited to the LDNR and those territories where they manage to hold a referendum.
      2. Kim
        Kim 21 September 2022 10: 56
        +8
        and no options
        Only victory
        otherwise they will be completely destroyed, the mistakes of the past will not be repeated
    3. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 21 September 2022 09: 29
      +22
      Respect for VVP and his team. If only the rear did not let us down.
      This team did not let go for 7 months, do you think it will be different in the future?
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          1. Pereira
            Pereira 21 September 2022 10: 50
            +2
            It's time for TsIPSO students to learn the Russian anthem.
        2. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 21 September 2022 10: 15
          +15
          Liberal canned food in Russia, Sisyan merged into the toilet, a puke man on the Miga, Mr @ new military officers ......
          And so on, can you form thoughts normally?
        3. Edik
          Edik 21 September 2022 13: 21
          +1
          You are a serious uncle Sarmat Sanych! According to your minuses, you can keep statistics on the tree hi
      2. Corrosion inhibitor
        Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 14: 00
        0
        It is not for you now to talk about the strategy and tactics of state policy, and not for me - the train has left.
    4. Arkady007
      Arkady007 21 September 2022 09: 31
      +31
      It was necessary to start with this.
      It is necessary to voice goals specifically and set goals for achievement.
      The truth must be told initially, then it will be easier to live.
      1. VicktorVR
        VicktorVR 21 September 2022 09: 53
        +3
        There is such a principle - to bring in the part concerning ...
      2. valentine light
        valentine light 21 September 2022 10: 06
        +5
        logically "yes", but in life everything is not so - we are objectively not aware of all the cases that take place "away from the media" and on the sidelines.
        We assume that it should have been so - "a different horizon is visible from each level"
      3. Corrosion inhibitor
        Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 14: 02
        0
        I want to correct you a little. ... The truth can lead to a better life, just like a lie - too. Think like an engineer - not who's to blame, but how it works. Useful further.
    5. smart ass
      smart ass 21 September 2022 09: 31
      +13
      Just yesterday I wrote that mobilization is inevitable, but you downvoted!
      1. Al manah
        Al manah 21 September 2022 09: 33
        +12
        Now they give you minuses for being right. winked
      2. I dare to_notice_
        I dare to_notice_ 21 September 2022 09: 43
        +2
        Here, those who are called "guardians" are minus, i.e. those who never doubt...
        Because thinking for yourself is painful.
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 21 September 2022 09: 53
          +6
          Because thinking for yourself is painful.

          For many, there is simply nothing to think about. And put a minus - it's so nice to raise self-esteem))).
          1. connoisseur
            connoisseur 21 September 2022 11: 57
            -2
            Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
            Because thinking for yourself is painful.

            For many, there is simply nothing to think about. And put a minus - it's so nice to raise self-esteem))).

            So it's just a cross section of our society: "You're the boss - I'm a dork, I'm the boss - you are a dork"
        2. Pereira
          Pereira 21 September 2022 10: 51
          +4
          Not only the guards minus, but also those who recognize CIPSO by smell. Five salogeroev have already pierced on the site in 2 days.
          You work carelessly.
        3. Corrosion inhibitor
          Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 14: 05
          0
          It's funny to say, but - it really hurts me to think, I have a head injury and, as a result, insufficient blood supply. )) I'll give you a plus that he at least taught you something.
          1. AdAstra
            AdAstra 21 September 2022 21: 38
            -1
            It's okay, a bullet hit me in the head and we live like, we think, even the work is like that.
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 22 September 2022 13: 23
            0
            Quote: Corrosion_Inhibitor
            It's funny to say, but - it really hurts me to think, I have a head injury and, as a result, insufficient blood supply. )) I'll give you a plus that he at least taught you something.

            The soul hurts a person with a Big, Kind Heart
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        1. Pereira
          Pereira 21 September 2022 10: 58
          +11
          Here you are wrong. There are enough forces for a sluggish gnaw through of the defense. But there is no one to lead into the breakthrough. And there is no one to control the liberated territory,
          there is no one to drive the DRG. Gauges won't help here.
          Yes, dog hairdressers will not save, although personally I would mobilize mouth singers and football players into sapper units.
        2. smart ass
          smart ass 21 September 2022 11: 34
          -1
          Taunting for mobilization, what are you smoking? I said it was inevitable.
          1. Monster_Fat
            Monster_Fat 22 September 2022 04: 01
            -1
            I'm interested in something else. If this is not "mobilization", but something like voluntary, then why is there a panic on maritime forums that sailors, seismic specialists, fishermen, freelancers and other those who work under a contract abroad will not be allowed to go abroad? That is, men liable for military service will not travel abroad? If so, then this is already mobilization.
            1. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 22 September 2022 13: 27
              0
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              I'm interested in something else. If this is not "mobilization", but something like voluntary, then why is there a panic on maritime forums that sailors, seismic specialists, fishermen, freelancers and other those who work under a contract abroad will not be allowed to go abroad? That is, men liable for military service will not travel abroad? If so, then this is already mobilization.

              Who told you that this is voluntary? In my opinion, everything is very clearly stated: 1st line of the reserve up to 35 years old, second line up to 45 years old, 3rd line officers up to 55 years old.
        3. Corrosion inhibitor
          Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 14: 06
          +1
          In vain you wrote so much. This is now no one reads - the forum is overloaded.
      4. valentine light
        valentine light 21 September 2022 10: 12
        +2
        this is not from evil (unless they are "Ukrainians") - the commentators had their own opinion.
        Well, who said that people are not mistaken or, more precisely, have accurate information about how what is happening?
        US officials and retired US officials and colonels openly propose on video to divide Russia into "ranches".
        So "shish" them.
    6. Svarog
      Svarog 21 September 2022 09: 34
      +17
      Quote: Maz
      Respect for VVP and his team. If only the rear did not let us down.

      They talked about the partial mobilization of comrades here in VO back in March .. it would seem .. well, where are they up to the great .. But this is still half the trouble, and the main one is that in the decision-making center and critical infrastructure, where are the strikes?
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 21 September 2022 09: 41
        +11
        Duc - it was necessary to call in the spring, to train the people for at least three months. Now only by the New Year the first units will appear .. This is at best ..
        1. valentine light
          valentine light 21 September 2022 10: 17
          +4
          It is said that partially and by specialty.
          I think they have combat experience and specialties that allow them to work specifically with equipment and calculations.
          After collection, courses on "refreshing the memory" in 2-3 months and 3 weeks on "combat coordination" are logical.
        2. Corrosion inhibitor
          Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 14: 08
          0
          You are very naive. Very, very, very naive.
        3. guerilla707
          guerilla707 21 September 2022 15: 22
          0
          Volunteers across the river y. With. In Grozny: intensive training takes 2 weeks, along the line of training up to 1 month
      2. saigon
        saigon 21 September 2022 10: 22
        0
        I don’t know about partial mobilization, I re-read Shapochnikov about mobilization (it’s clear that it seems to be outdated), and so he writes interesting thoughts about permanent mobilization in a word, conduct mobilization in a quiet way but don’t yell about it.
      3. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 21 September 2022 12: 32
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        But this is still half the trouble, and the main one is that in the decision-making center and critical infrastructure, where are the strikes?

        The United States is afraid of only one thing, and that alone will end it all. Namely, an ultimatum with the threat of using nuclear weapons against America. Isn't it better now?
    7. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 21 September 2022 09: 36
      +14
      Golden words, especially in the LDNR, people suffered their entry into Russia.
      1. Corrosion inhibitor
        Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 14: 10
        +1
        If something goes wrong, I’ll probably go there myself - for my own money, just live as long as I can, even if I die in my old age ... indeed, in Russia.
    8. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 21 September 2022 09: 37
      +27
      It is necessary to change the goals and objectives of the SVO. The goal should be the LIQUIDATION OF UKRAINIAN STATEHOOD as a threat to the existence of Russia.
      1. Corrosion inhibitor
        Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 14: 11
        0
        There will be someone to perform, there will be those who will change. Not yet evening.
    9. Alexga
      Alexga 21 September 2022 09: 44
      +3
      Shoigu just announced the losses of 5937 of the Russian army, the Ukrainian one has more than 49000,
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 21 September 2022 10: 02
        +4
        Quote: AlexGa
        Shoigu just announced the losses of 5937 of the Russian army, the Ukrainian one has more than 49000,

        It would be interesting to voice the losses of the LDNR.
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 21 September 2022 10: 07
          +3
          It would be interesting to voice the losses of the LDNR.

          There was a figure for the DPR, I don’t remember exactly, but something a little more than 2900, well, these are the military. The worst figure is almost 300 civilians, and these are children, women and the elderly.
        2. Hypertension
          Hypertension 21 September 2022 13: 39
          +2
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          It would be interesting to voice the losses of the LDNR.

          LDNR, National Guard, Wagner, volunteers ...
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 21 September 2022 13: 47
            +2
            Quote: Hyperion
            LDNR, National Guard, Wagner, volunteers ...

            I agree. Shoigu, I suppose, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the National Battalions and the Terodefense were raked together in one heap, and even more so. Propaganda, that's what it is.
        3. Corrosion inhibitor
          Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 14: 12
          +1
          I also think about it. It would be better to voice - it's time now.
      2. VasyaRules
        VasyaRules 21 September 2022 14: 28
        -4
        Why then mobilization, if the loss of 5 thousand? So there are no spare parts?
      3. guerilla707
        guerilla707 21 September 2022 15: 27
        0
        I remember how they minus my comment on those who died in their "losses of the Armed Forces, according to the British intelligence mi-6 and the Air Force, on July 28.07 for 5 months are minimal - 4760 people, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are more than 200 thousand people, in parallel, according to the RF Ministry of Defense, at least 3000 NATO mercenaries have already been destroyed "
    10. dedusik
      dedusik 21 September 2022 09: 52
      +2
      Well, here comes the opportunity for our couch experts \ specialists to prove themselves, and we, old farts who have served 27+ years, will see which of them will take advantage of this opportunity. soldier
      1. dedusik
        dedusik 21 September 2022 11: 08
        +1
        The number of Experts who want to take a direct part is slowly growing with minuses, which pleases, to serve is not to grind with your tongue repeat
        1. Corrosion inhibitor
          Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 14: 14
          0
          D.u.r.a.k you, in your whole life nothing has grown on your own ... in your empty head.
          1. dedusik
            dedusik 21 September 2022 14: 56
            0
            Yes, I don’t take offense at all the patients, I myself am like that - during the service I earned a head injury, and later a stroke, but, they won’t wait hi
            1. Corrosion inhibitor
              Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 15: 54
              0
              Well, this "message" already looks much better. Keep it up.
    11. Stinging Nettle
      Stinging Nettle 21 September 2022 10: 07
      +13
      We expected the bombing of Ukrainian infrastructure and roads along which military equipment travels to dill!
      Instead, everything is the same, only to bring volunteers :(
    12. zurbagan63
      zurbagan63 21 September 2022 10: 26
      +12
      If only the rear did not let us down.

      And what about the wives, sisters, children left in the rear? Shouldn’t we first expel all guest workers, as well as all those who have received citizenship over the past 5-7 years, force Caucasians to behave normally, respect Russians, let Ars and Azeris also fight home from Transcaucasia, and relocate all Russians from abroad to vacated housing. Otherwise, it will not be very good in the rear ... A lot of things can be written, but I will not.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 11: 55
        -6
        where does Gaster and your wife? do not write nonsense
        1. Corrosion inhibitor
          Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 14: 18
          +3
          This is not nonsense written to you. This is a social problem that will only get worse. The principle is simple, do not want to have consequences - think about the decision in advance.
          I believe that the government of the Russian Federation still has time to make the right choice on this issue. But then it might be too late.
      2. VasyaRules
        VasyaRules 21 September 2022 14: 29
        -1
        Absolutely agree with you. If all the men are taken away, and our wives remain here, then what about the gastrs? Who will control? Who will protect the peace of those who remain?
    13. opuonmed
      opuonmed 21 September 2022 10: 28
      +4
      Well, then you need to hit the rear from everything that is possible in Ukraine!
    14. Awaz
      Awaz 21 September 2022 10: 46
      +3
      this had to be carried out even before the start of the NWO, then there would be some chance to complete everything quickly and without serious losses in personnel and political. Now, when they screwed up and began to fuss hysterically and chaotically, demonstrating their helplessness and short-sightedness, it is obvious that nothing good will come of it. Those who do not want to fight will hide. And, believe me, besides you Hurray patriots, no one wants to fight and die in this mess. All this will lead to even greater shame and failure. The stamina of such troops will be doubtful, and with the smart work of the Western intelligence services, many will think about surrendering ... That's it, if it goes, then that's it, write it down. Even gathering people like you to the front will not save anything
      1. your1970
        your1970 21 September 2022 11: 38
        +1
        Quote: AwaZ
        Those who do not want to fight will hide. And, believe me, except for you patriots, especially to fight and die in this mess, no one wants

        For these characters, articles were introduced into the Criminal Code yesterday
        Quote: AwaZ
        many will think about what would surrender

        And for these, they also prepared an article of the Criminal Code ...
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 21 September 2022 13: 42
          +4
          Quote: your1970
          For these characters, articles were introduced into the Criminal Code yesterday

          That is, it is impossible to fight not for fear, but for conscience? How so? Do we have truth and justice? Or are our people "not the same"? What do you think?
          1. your1970
            your1970 21 September 2022 14: 43
            -3
            Quote: Hyperion
            Do we have truth and justice?

            In the USSR in 1941 we had truth and justice and the people was "the one"- but no one canceled the penal battalions and the Criminal Code of the RSFSR of 1926 ..
            Don't know why?
            It’s just that even then there were a lot of draft dodgers / deserters / the like shushgali ...
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 21 September 2022 15: 02
              +5
              Quote: your1970
              In the USSR in 1941, we had both truth and justice, and the people were "the one" - but the penal battalions and the Criminal Code of the RSFSR in 1926. nobody canceled.

              And since when did the NWO, going according to plan and on time, turn into the Great Patriotic War in order to compare these two conflicts?
              Is it possible that the Armed Forces of Ukraine, supported by a certain amount of Western equipment and intelligence, began to be assessed as the Wehrmacht of the 41st?
              All this time, Konashenkov cheerfully reported that the Nazis were being destroyed, UAVs were being destroyed, some settlements were being liberated, somewhere they were advancing, everything in a bunch, as they say. And then all of a sudden, SUDDENLY, almost order No. 227, not a step back, terms for desertion ...
              I don’t know about you, but for me it’s like snow on my head (if, of course, I believed Konashenkov and Co.).
              Quote: your1970
              It’s just that even then there were a lot of draft dodgers / deserters / the like shushgali ...

              They encroached on the sacred ... Then the whole country, from small to large, stood up for defense. To protect their land, ideology, social gains. building.
        2. Awaz
          Awaz 21 September 2022 16: 53
          0
          no one will fight for fear. That is why the authorities have introduced a criminal offense that they understand that no one will fight for them just like that. Well, in general, it’s already easier for a person to serve two or three years, until everything collapses on its own, than to die in the trenches. Such actions are a frank demonstration of the fact that the authorities are in a panic and do not know what to do ... And now those who seem to have supported everything, but when they come to them with a summons, will greatly change their attitude towards this war. It surprises me that such cheers of patriots are not particularly visible at the front, everyone is sitting in chats and forums .. Let's show together with the deputies of the State Duma what you can ... Yes, and you, if your children are forcibly sent to die for it’s not known what, you will also change your patriotic frenzy a lot
          1. your1970
            your1970 21 September 2022 20: 43
            +1
            Quote: AwaZ
            no one will fight for fear. That is why the authorities introduced a criminal offense that they understand that no one will fight for them just like that.

            Quote: Hyperion
            And since when did the NWO, going according to plan and on time, turn into the Great Patriotic War in order to compare these two conflicts?

            For you two - one more time - without any comparison with the present - in 1941, no one canceled the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (section of military crimes). Despite the fact that the power was popular and there were no oligarchs ..
            Quote: Hyperion
            Then the whole country, from small to large, rose to the defense. To protect their land, ideology, social gains. building.

            But the Criminal Code remained, because even then there were people
            Quote: AwaZ
            Well, in general, it’s already easier for a person to serve two or three years, until everything collapses on its own, than to die in the trenches.
        3. ihnovich990
          ihnovich990 21 September 2022 21: 49
          -1
          Are you already at the forefront, or are you scribbling from your mother-in-law's basement?
      2. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 11: 57
        +1
        introduced criminal liability for cowardice and desertion
        1. Awaz
          Awaz 21 September 2022 16: 56
          +1
          when a summons comes to you, we will see who we have a coward and a deserter ... Why don't we go to fight as a volunteer?
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 17: 51
            0
            husband is 39 years old, most likely there will be no agenda in the first wave
            1. Awaz
              Awaz 21 September 2022 19: 39
              +2
              why don't you volunteer him? You can go yourself too ... Any person is needed there ... There is a lot of work. I believe that all cheers patriots should go to fight voluntarily in the front ranks with a marching step ... Or be silent quietly ...
      3. Monarchist
        Monarchist 21 September 2022 12: 01
        -2
        And you are an alarmist! yes right now your opinion is needed! Yes? To fail everything!
      4. Corrosion inhibitor
        Corrosion inhibitor 21 September 2022 14: 19
        +1
        Booty apaslya is easier to think, right? ... than, head on time.
    15. Maz
      Maz 21 September 2022 11: 03
      0
      Shoigu: 300,000 reservists will be called up. This is not a one-time action (note: if we understand correctly, we are not talking about a one-time recruitment), this will be done as planned.
      Shoigu: Our losses are 5937 people.
      1. RED_ICE
        RED_ICE 21 September 2022 14: 11
        +2
        Shoigu: we have 5937 dead.

        We don’t know how Shoigu is, but we have more ...

        @wargonzo
    16. Serg koma
      Serg koma 21 September 2022 11: 12
      0
      Quote: Maz
      If only the rear did not let us down.

      And who is in the rear? Aren't we??? According to the laws of wartime - all pests and deserters of the rear front to the wall !!!
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    18. forester1971
      forester1971 21 September 2022 11: 26
      +1
      Completely agree with you. Such a decision by the Supreme Commander has long been expected. I think that after the referendums on the territory of the liberated regions, the decree on mobilization will be expanded and deepened to the introduction of partial martial law in some subjects of the Russian Federation.
    19. HumbleCivilian
      HumbleCivilian 21 September 2022 13: 49
      +2
      I don't understand why you are happy. Have past mistakes been corrected? Guilty identified, punished, removed at least? No.

      This means that the mobilized will fight according to the same useless strategy and under the leadership of the same mediocre people. They will beat their heads in fortified areas, and striking at vital places of dill will still be prohibited.

      Until the mistakes are corrected from the middle command level to the level of the top military-political leadership, only an increase in losses on both sides should be expected from mobilization. If there is any minimal progress, it will be absolutely safe for Ukraine.
    20. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 21 September 2022 13: 52
      +3
      Quote: Maz
      What we all expected has begun, forward Russia! There is nowhere to retreat, or we them, or they us. Victory begins with Faith in it. Our cause is just and victory will be ours! Respect for VVP and his team. If only the rear did not let us down.

      Do you mean forward? While you are sitting in Israel? You should be in the forefront of the military registration and enlistment office of the Russian Federation, with your motivation.
    21. Vend
      Vend 21 September 2022 14: 11
      0
      Site admins, why do you have a black mourning strip with this message?
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      1. NOMADE
        NOMADE 21 September 2022 14: 17
        0
        Did you receive money and benefits for free? Work. What the hell is mobilization??
    23. Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers
      Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers 21 September 2022 20: 20
      0
      Quote: Maz
      If only the rear did not let us down.

      Let's try hard.
    24. ihnovich990
      ihnovich990 21 September 2022 21: 44
      0
      Come on, warrior! Be the first! I hope the military commissar has already shaken your hand when handing the draft? Come on, bro ... And we are right behind you.
  2. Horus
    Horus 21 September 2022 09: 20
    +38
    Bridges across the Dnieper, you need to start with this!!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 September 2022 09: 22
      +42
      Quote: Horus
      Bridges across the Dnieper, you need to start with this!!

      And from electrical substations feeding the railways, not forgetting to destroy fuel and lubricants warehouses and trains.
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 21 September 2022 09: 27
      +16
      Quote: Horus
      Bridges across the Dnieper, you need to start with this!!

      Before, what was stopping you? The same people who slowed it down then will slow it down now. And what does mobilization have to do with bridges?
      1. bulgaria_
        bulgaria_ 21 September 2022 09: 40
        0
        mobilized infantry clear MANPADS and Aviation will be easier
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 21 September 2022 09: 41
        +3
        At such a time, these "brakes" can easily be sent to slow down to hell.
        1. Third district
          Third district 21 September 2022 10: 50
          +6
          Quote: Captive
          At such a time, these "brakes" can easily be sent to slow down to hell.

          Do not forget the most important rule - we do not abandon our own. They can only be transferred to another position.
      3. Stinging Nettle
        Stinging Nettle 21 September 2022 10: 09
        +8
        Such that without mobilization it will become clear that something will have to be changed and infrastructure will have to be bombed.
        with mobilization, you can pull like that for a long time. as it is. There will be boys slowly dying, and the light in Kyiv will continue to burn.
      4. saigon
        saigon 21 September 2022 10: 25
        0
        In general, the enemy operates along internal lines of operations and the shoulder of maneuver with forces and means is shorter than ours. Raising the bridges into the air creates difficulties with maneuver. (Although later we will have a question.)
        1. Third district
          Third district 21 September 2022 10: 53
          +3
          Quote: saigon
          Lifting the bridges into the air makes it difficult to maneuver. (Although then we come to the question

          The Armed Forces of Ukraine will definitely blow themselves up when they retreat, there are plenty of examples of this.
      5. Horus
        Horus 21 September 2022 13: 07
        0
        And in order to raise the morale of the mobilized, and what prevented me, I don’t know.
    3. I dare to_notice_
      I dare to_notice_ 21 September 2022 10: 33
      -1
      I understand correctly: no one is going to the left bank anymore? ..
  3. Ravik
    Ravik 21 September 2022 09: 20
    +18
    This was where it had to start. No one with towels is waiting for us there.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 21 September 2022 12: 06
      0
      Ukrainians did everything that happened there with their own hands and hatred! For years! And they will hate more! Less on ceremony with executioners and drug addicts.
  4. Alien From
    Alien From 21 September 2022 09: 20
    +18
    We waited! Does anyone else want to go to a real war from the couch?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 21 September 2022 09: 22
      +16
      Quote: Alien From
      We waited! Does anyone else want to go to a real war from the couch?

      There were many who wanted to, but now people in uniform will come to them and urgently, under pain of criminal prosecution, will be asked to go to the front. soldier
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 21 September 2022 09: 38
        +15
        Quote: BlackMokona
        There were many applicants, but now people in uniform will come to them


        they won’t come because most of the couch troops are either more than 50 or less than 18, and the rest of those who did not happen urgently and, accordingly, have no experience.
        And the president said
        that the mobilization will affect persons who are in the reserve of the Russian Armed Forces and who have relevant experience
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 21 September 2022 09: 42
          +8
          Quote: lopvlad
          they won’t come because most of the couch troops are either more than 50 or less than 18, and the rest of those who did not happen urgently and, accordingly, have no experience.

          And they also said there would be no mobilization, there would be no war, the retirement age would not be raised, and so on. Therefore, the statement of the authorities should always be treated with great skepticism.
          1. lopvlad
            lopvlad 21 September 2022 09: 54
            +4
            Quote: BlackMokona
            And they also said there would be no mobilization, there would be no war, the retirement age would not be raised, and so on.


            Well, new decisions are made when the old ones stop working, and for now this is a partial mobilization, and no one will tell you what will happen later.
    2. Arkady007
      Arkady007 21 September 2022 09: 27
      +6
      What's so pitiful? Are you afraid that you will be called?
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 21 September 2022 09: 38
        +2
        Do not poke strangers, especially with claims.
      2. AdAstra
        AdAstra 21 September 2022 10: 31
        +4
        What are you doing? Fear is a normal human feeling, and as my colleague at work said, he served in the Airborne Forces and has a medal For Courage for Pridnestrovie - only fools and the dead should not be afraid and do not rush to become neither one nor the other.
    3. Aleksandre
      Aleksandre 21 September 2022 09: 28
      +24
      Quote: Alien From
      We waited! Does anyone else want to go to a real war from the couch?

      Yes, I'm worried about the citizen of Hansales, he disappeared somewhere. Well, how he broke into the military registration and enlistment office early in the morning, but they didn’t take him, and now strike performances with curative fasting are spreading under the windows of the most important commissar.
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 21 September 2022 09: 36
        +10
        Don't touch Meehan. And even more so in his absence. He's been on the site for a very long time. He is our talisman.
        As it is sung in the song of the group "Kino"
        Look after yourself and be careful...
        1. Aleksandre
          Aleksandre 21 September 2022 09: 41
          +12
          Quote: Anarchist
          He is our talisman.

          But in ancient times they were called holy fools ...
        2. yuriy55
          yuriy55 21 September 2022 10: 09
          +4
          Quote: Anarchist
          He's been on the site for a very long time. He is our talisman.

          He, like a Phoenix, always rises from the ashes. By the way, he stopped coughing and “bad”.
          It will show up and it won't go anywhere.
        3. valentine light
          valentine light 21 September 2022 10: 23
          -1
          The meaning of singing Viktor Tsoi "watch yourself" is that danger lurks everywhere, you won’t be saved from everything, but you just need to do what you must.
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      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 21 September 2022 09: 43
        +8
        Quote: Aleksandre
        Yes, I'm worried about the citizen of Hansales, he disappeared somewhere.

        Mobilization is partial, Vitalik will not fall under it. Both in terms of age and health.
        1. ARIONkrsk
          ARIONkrsk 21 September 2022 09: 54
          +4
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: Aleksandre
          Yes, I'm worried about the citizen of Hansales, he disappeared somewhere.

          Mobilization is partial, Vitalik will not fall under it. Both in terms of age and health.

          If now a partial one does not help to win and end the war, the next one will probably be a general one.
          1. igork735
            igork735 21 September 2022 10: 31
            0
            With the general mobilization announced in Russia, the First World War began. Although brother Willy told brother Nikolashka not to fuss.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 21 September 2022 11: 07
            +4
            Quote from ARIONkrsk
            If now a partial one does not help to win and end the war, the next one will probably be a general one.

            Putin looked at how the Ukrainian offensive ended, so he announced a partial one. Now let's see how the partial ends.
    4. Uprun
      Uprun 21 September 2022 09: 34
      +2
      And what, already in diapers? There is still time behind the hill ....
    5. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 21 September 2022 09: 41
      +7
      Of course, those over 45 have no desire to climb into a trench under artillery, or run across the field to a machine-gun nest. Health is not the same. But at least in the rear in the liberated territories, they can stand at checkpoints, guard objects, roads, escort cargo, with weapons.
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 21 September 2022 10: 02
        +13
        Yes, the key word is stand. laughing
        Although I run in the mornings, and ride a bike a couple of times a week for 100-150 km, I clearly see that my strength is not the same at 50 years old. And if I still manage to run 20 km in full gear, then the next day after that I can only be shot, because I will be the subject of real estate for at least 3 days.
        1. lopvlad
          lopvlad 21 September 2022 12: 51
          0
          Quote: vadimtt
          but I clearly see that the forces are not the same at 50 years old.


          despite the fact that 50 years in the city and 50 years in the countryside are two big differences. 50 years in the city is a guy and 50 years in the countryside is a real grandfather.
        2. Edik
          Edik 21 September 2022 13: 52
          +1
          Quote: vadimtt
          And if I can still master 20 km in full running gear, then the next after

          The wrong war is going on now to run such distances. Now everything is decorous and noble, they will bring you to the front line and take you away in time. Just fight. And your form is excellent, don’t be modest hi
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 22 September 2022 10: 51
            0
            If, as near Kharkov, then it’s easier to chain it to a machine gun right away. All the benefits will cover those who can run far, quickly and for a long time. Well, in a sense, it is planned to level the front line or there is a gesture of goodwill.
      2. lopvlad
        lopvlad 21 September 2022 10: 08
        +5
        Quote: TatarinSSSR
        Health is not the same.


        if health is not right, then no one will take such people. For such warriors, you need to constantly carry a car of medicines and there are more problems than the result from them.
      3. Emergency
        Emergency 21 September 2022 13: 34
        +1
        You lie Tatar! (I can say that, he is a Tatar himself!) I would go to the search, but they don’t take it and they do it right! Until now, there is a titanium plate on the tibia and a breather to hell, although I have not smoked for over forty years. The desire is there, the possibilities are not! As for roadblocks and communication with the population, you are right here. The guys just wrap up, looking at the year of birth. And yet, the young woman is also not thrilled to "play football in a minefield", though there are more opportunities, but less experience.
    6. Prisoner
      Prisoner 21 September 2022 09: 48
      +18
      what Sofa? Do you see from a stool broadcasting or from a burning tank spanking posts on VO? A normal person, in fact, does not want to go to war, especially one who knows what it is. But there is such a word "must", sorry for the pathos. As grandfathers used to say, "do not ask for service, do not run away from service." They won't run. Most won't.
      1. Stinging Nettle
        Stinging Nettle 21 September 2022 10: 13
        +11
        Grandfathers had a war with clear goals. and not a special operation with delyu dechtogo there.
        There were bombings of the enemy, and the kind passing of military equipment, otherwise the enemy would suddenly have nothing to shoot at our guys.
    7. saigon
      saigon 21 September 2022 11: 38
      +1
      Well, it’s not very correct to scare with a war and an appeal, here I think many have seen the war, tried it with their hands.
      It's scary anywhere else.
  5. Vasily Onischuk
    Vasily Onischuk 21 September 2022 09: 22
    +6
    Since the Motherland said it is necessary, then it is necessary.
  6. tTshka
    tTshka 21 September 2022 09: 24
    +50
    Do we stop supplying resources to those against whom we are mobilizing?
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 21 September 2022 09: 28
      +25
      Quote: tTshka
      Do we stop supplying resources to those against whom we are mobilizing?

      This is different.
    2. faiver
      faiver 21 September 2022 09: 29
      +22
      nichrome ..., over there in the news of amers to the ISS we are taking from Baikonur ...
      1. Uprun
        Uprun 21 September 2022 09: 35
        +3
        Let's hope... one way....
        1. faiver
          faiver 21 September 2022 09: 37
          +7
          again the toilet will be ruined, or a hole will be drilled ...
    3. Aleksandre
      Aleksandre 21 September 2022 09: 31
      +28
      Quote: tTshka
      Do we stop supplying resources to those against whom we are mobilizing?

      That is, cut the income of respected people? It will come to mind in the morning such ... Admit that you abused fire water yesterday.
    4. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 21 September 2022 09: 36
      +9
      Do we stop supplying resources to those against whom we are mobilizing?
      Attempt the sacred! At a profit! No, of course, enemies must be supplied to the last, so that there is someone to fight with.
    5. AvesevA
      AvesevA 21 September 2022 09: 58
      +3
      And what money then to mobilize? They pay, we destroy their henchmen.
  7. for
    for 21 September 2022 09: 24
    +3
    Demian Bedny
    Our homeland
    Nobles, bankers, priests and merchants,
    Dressing up Timoh and Yerem on a campaign,
    Shouted: "For the faith, the king and the fatherland
    Let's die!
    "Let's die!"
    "Let's die!"
    And the bastards died unexpectedly, unexpectedly,
    Becoming a victim of the awakened Yerem and Timokh.
    Their corpses, sung by us without incense,
    Covered with grave mold and moss.
  8. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 21 September 2022 09: 25
    -4
    Get up, great country! Russia starts a real war.
    1. Pulkovo1942
      Pulkovo1942 21 September 2022 09: 28
      +29
      Russia starts a real war.

      I will agree with you when massive strikes against dual-use targets begin. And the very fact of the announcement of partial mobilization does not indicate anything specific in the framework of a change in the NWO strategy.
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 21 September 2022 09: 28
      +12
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Get up, great country! Russia starts a real war.

      No, for now it’s still NWO, not a word about the war.
      1. bulgaria_
        bulgaria_ 21 September 2022 09: 43
        +7
        NWO will continue - you have to go to Lvov. Don't declare war. There will be both - NWO and WHO (counter-terrorist). And the UN will be deadlocked for a long time to come.
    3. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 21 September 2022 09: 30
      +2
      Russia starts a real war.
      Where does infa come from?
    4. Prisoner
      Prisoner 21 September 2022 09: 56
      +3
      Russia does not start wars. Yes, and excitement is not appropriate here. Hard bloody work somehow does not conducive to such moods.
    5. I dare to_notice_
      I dare to_notice_ 21 September 2022 10: 38
      0
      Yes, you are an optimist, my friend!
      It's time to change your nickname. )
  9. Heaven
    Heaven 21 September 2022 09: 26
    +4
    Great news. And then as if the country did not fight. Now everyone has to take part. One for all and all for one. And there is nothing for peasants to roam abroad at such a time.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 09: 40
      +9
      the majors have already flown abroad, the planes are overcrowded
      1. ARIONkrsk
        ARIONkrsk 21 September 2022 09: 57
        +3
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        the majors have already flown abroad, the planes are overcrowded

        It's time for the military commissars to go to the airports to catch runners, although the majors did not serve, which means they are not subject to conscription.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 10: 18
          -2
          the borders are already blocked, they won’t run away
        2. aglet
          aglet 21 September 2022 10: 31
          0
          "although the majors did not serve, it means that they are not subject to conscription."
          in wartime, everyone is subject to conscription. Well, except for the majors. they are already organizing partisan detachments behind enemy lines
          1. RED_ICE
            RED_ICE 21 September 2022 14: 13
            0
            Read the presidential decree carefully.
      2. valentine light
        valentine light 21 September 2022 10: 29
        +6
        it is necessary for each battalion in a major, and then the supply and purchase of expensive devices will sharply gain popularity among volunteers :))
      3. lis-ik
        lis-ik 21 September 2022 10: 46
        +3
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        the majors have already flown abroad, the planes are overcrowded

        I would like to clarify on which aircraft and where exactly the "majors" flew. After all, with both of them, we have strained, foreign-made aircraft are all under arrest (except for the old charter flights of tour operators), the countries where you can fly can also be counted on the fingers. So where and on what did you fly?
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 10: 54
          0
          planes fly by foreign airlines
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 21 September 2022 13: 08
            +1
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            planes fly by foreign airlines

            You forgot that the sky is closed for them too. And for those who do not (for example, Turkish Airlines) specialize mainly in charters for tourists.
      4. igork735
        igork735 21 September 2022 11: 28
        -3
        Stop throwing firewood already! Do you want to create a workers' and peasants' army? It was already. Next, smoke a history textbook.
    2. K-36
      K-36 21 September 2022 16: 08
      +1
      Heiven (Timur) Great news. One for all and all for one
      Really? Did it come true anyway? I am alone - for the entire Forbes list, and they are all (from this list) - for me!?! A tear of tenderness involuntarily rolled down my prickly senile stubble. lol
  10. Arkady007
    Arkady007 21 September 2022 09: 26
    +23
    It turns out that it came to the Supreme that they began to run out of steam.
    Question for small.
    Edrossy as communists in the Second World War will go in the forefront or what?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 21 September 2022 09: 28
      +9
      Quote: Arkady007
      It turns out that it came to the Supreme that they began to run out of steam.
      Question for small.
      Edrossy as communists in the Second World War will go in the forefront or what?

      All politicians have reservations. So others will go.
      1. Third district
        Third district 21 September 2022 11: 15
        +3
        Quote: BlackMokona
        All politicians have reservations. So others will go.

        And what about the children of politicians. The Soviet leaders had children who fought at the front.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 21 September 2022 11: 17
          +8
          Quote: Third District
          Quote: BlackMokona
          All politicians have reservations. So others will go.

          And what about the children of politicians. The Soviet leaders had children who fought at the front.

          And the children of politicians all live in NATO countries, in which the army is voluntary and there is no mobilization
    2. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 21 September 2022 09: 38
      +9
      Edrossy as communists in the Second World War will go in the forefront or what?
      Of course, in the forefront, in the stands, at rallies and, of course, for profit.
    3. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 21 September 2022 09: 42
      +3
      Are you joking? Just now in Kyiv, they carried out mobilization, out of almost one and a half thousand 118 summonses, do you think differently in Moscow? Muscovites are different, this is understandable, but the concentration of those who will rock is high there.
  11. Dmitry Ivanov_8
    Dmitry Ivanov_8 21 September 2022 09: 26
    +5
    Mob reserve according to the "Jane" directory - 2 million people. The total resource is about 40 million people. 2 million under the gun? Then Khokhlam PPC.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 21 September 2022 09: 29
      +15
      Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_8
      Mob reserve according to the "Jane" directory - 2 million people. The total resource is about 40 million people. 2 million under the gun? Then Khokhlam PPC.

      This is not yet a fact. If normally, even current equipment could not be provided. Night vision devices, teploki, armor, etc. What will these 2 million arm? And if you just send crowds to machine guns, then you won’t gain much. Therefore, the question here is how our generals will take advantage of this.
      1. Vasily Onischuk
        Vasily Onischuk 21 September 2022 09: 38
        +10
        Most likely, the mobilized will be sent to units, and contract soldiers from units to the maximum to Ukraine.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 21 September 2022 09: 40
          -6
          Quote: Vasily Onischuk
          Most likely, the mobilized will be sent to units, and contract soldiers from units to the maximum to Ukraine.

          So the contractors are already there, from which there is a constant message about conscripts on the front line and problems with this. Therefore, it is what is on the front.
        2. dnestr74
          dnestr74 21 September 2022 10: 20
          0
          Yes, that's exactly what you need to do back in March ...
      2. lopvlad
        lopvlad 21 September 2022 09: 42
        +3
        Quote: BlackMokona
        And if you just send crowds to machine guns, then you won’t gain much.


        for the crowds, general mobilization is needed, and now partial mobilization has been announced, and apparently due to a lack of military specialists.
      3. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 21 September 2022 09: 43
        +7
        And there is a lot of work without heatpacks, just to provide the rear, say, to guard the fuel and lubricants warehouse. My wife also asked me, since mobilization, reassured me both for myself and for her brother.
      4. Dmitry Ivanov_8
        Dmitry Ivanov_8 21 September 2022 09: 45
        +7
        They will open the "canned food" of the cropped parts of the SA and the 90s. In our Urals, only the second OA from the GSVG is still in warehouses. An entire army.
        There is one weapon for 5-7 millions. The same T-72B tanks from storage bases.
    2. Petr_Koldunov
      Petr_Koldunov 21 September 2022 09: 37
      +7
      Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_8
      Mob reserve according to the "Jane" directory - 2 million people.

      Shoigu has just announced that 300 reservists will be called up.
      Whether this amount will be enough is a big question.
      1. sifgame
        sifgame 21 September 2022 10: 14
        +3
        You probably listened inattentively to Shoigu, he said about the first wave of mobilization, there will be more.
      2. Monarchist
        Monarchist 21 September 2022 12: 17
        +1
        They would have pleased by already starting to destroy the infrastructure and electricity of the dill, so that their clown began to stutter.
    3. Paladin
      Paladin 21 September 2022 09: 48
      0
      Jane is good, but we are declaring a mob reserve of 25 million. For some reason, I believe ours more.
  12. spirit
    spirit 21 September 2022 09: 27
    +11
    Somewhere, one Strelkov is crying with joy) yes
    1. sifgame
      sifgame 21 September 2022 10: 24
      +2
      Aha, that's for sure, there is a channel "Did Igor Strelkov whine today"
      Today he probably did not whine)
  13. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 21 September 2022 09: 27
    +10
    it is worth saying that the wind rose can turn in their direction.

    Do we already know how to control the weather?
    1. Horon
      Horon 21 September 2022 10: 23
      0
      What for? Just take into account when striking. winked
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 21 September 2022 11: 12
        0
        Quote: Horon
        What for? Just take into account when striking. winked

        Our hydrometeorological center sucks.
        1. Horon
          Horon 21 September 2022 12: 13
          +1
          Our hydrometeorological center does not work over Europe at all, so they can give forecasts themselves. winked
  14. faiver
    faiver 21 September 2022 09: 27
    +6
    this is what was expected...
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    1. Lex_is
      Lex_is 21 September 2022 09: 33
      +6
      Everything is already live appeal on the first looked.
      And you haven't shown it yet?
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 21 September 2022 09: 44
        +2
        On the Mir channel, the movie was interrupted. I like to hear whole speeches and not excerpts. This is a serious statement by the GDP.
        1. Lex_is
          Lex_is 21 September 2022 09: 51
          +2
          It’s just that some very patriotic and multi-star cheer commentators from abroad are worried, but they didn’t show the live broadcast there. So Boris screwed up, but he got his bearings in time and rubbed the commentary.
  16. AdAstra
    AdAstra 21 September 2022 09: 27
    -10
    There are many patriotic slogans, but it seems to me that with mobilization it will be no better than in Bandera.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 09: 41
      -3
      who served urgent until they get
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 21 September 2022 09: 43
        +3
        What is it like? it seems to be just written that those who served in the first place will be called. They have some kind of experience. And then who will they take from the reserve?
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 21 September 2022 09: 44
          +5
          Quote: Nexcom
          What is it like? it seems to be just written that those who served in the first place will be called.

          Just those who have just demobilized are the very first candidates for any mobilization. Knowledge and skills have not yet worn out in civilian life. Therefore, the best contingent.
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 21 September 2022 09: 47
            0
            That is, those who served and recently served. Well, so - and I'm talking about the same.
        2. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 21 September 2022 09: 55
          -1
          former military and those who went to civilian life, and most likely who recently left for demobilization
        3. valentine light
          valentine light 21 September 2022 10: 36
          0
          Urgent urgent strife!.

          One from 1987 to 1988 served in sunny Afghanistan, and the other in 2000 to 2001 near Ryazan or Kostroma, for example.
      2. RED_ICE
        RED_ICE 21 September 2022 14: 18
        0
        After the appeal of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu gave a number of explanations about partial mobilization in Russia: how it will take place, who falls under it and how many people are planned to be called up.

        — Sergei Shoigu: These are not some people who have never seen or heard anything about the army. These are really those who: a) have served; b) has a military specialty, that is, the specialty that is needed today in the armed forces; b) has combat experience. And, of course, I want to immediately anticipate the questions that may arise in connection with this. There is no talk of any mobilizations, appeals of students studying in universities. Let everyone calmly go to class, study. No one will call on them, mobilize them. And of course, like everything that concerns those who serve by conscription. It doesn't apply to them either. They are not subject to any mobilization, sending to the zone of a special military operation. That is, our conscripts also continue to serve, as they did, on the territory of the Russian Federation. Because we have a huge mobilization resource, that is, the resource of those who have served, those who have combat experience, those who have a military specialty. We have almost 25 million of them. Thus, you can understand that this mobilization, partial mobilization, is 1% or slightly more, 1,1%, of the total mobilization resource. The line of contact itself - you can call it the front line, you can call it the line of contact - more than a thousand kilometers. Naturally, what is behind and what is along this line must be consolidated, these territories must be controlled. And, of course, this work is done in the first place. I mean partial mobilization. Of course, after they are recruited, of course, they will undergo training or retraining. Of course, coordination will take place, coordination of crews, teams, squads, platoons. And only after that, only after that, they will go to carry out the tasks that are assigned to them.

        — D. Petrov: Can we talk about the specific number of reservists called up?

        — Sergei Shoigu: Yes, of course. 300 reservists to be called up. I want to say right away that this is not a one-time. This is the work that will be carried out according to plan, as I have already said. That is, such a wide-cut harvester is not provided here to capture everyone quickly, no. In this regard, I want to say that it so happened that we had to conduct mobilization meetings at the same time, according to our plans. That is, you know, they gathered for two weeks or someone for more time in order to restore skills - driving equipment, military equipment. And then it coincided with this event, with the announcement of partial mobilization. Therefore, we are canceling planned fees. And, of course, we will be engaged in partial mobilization.
    2. Stinging Nettle
      Stinging Nettle 21 September 2022 10: 16
      0
      In Bandera, at least there is no question of what is happening and why, God forbid, to disturb the civilian population of the enemy.
  17. Graz
    Graz 21 September 2022 09: 27
    +18
    But will there finally be strikes on critical infrastructure and the deployment of the Ukrainian authorities, or will we spare them anyway?
  18. RusGr
    RusGr 21 September 2022 09: 28
    -10
    It turns out interesting, there is a contract soldier who receives a salary according to the contract and combat and other allowances, and the mobilized one being in the same place - shish?
    1. Chronos
      Chronos 21 September 2022 09: 31
      +19
      Quote: RusGr
      It turns out interesting, there is a contract soldier who receives a salary according to the contract and combat and other allowances, and the mobilized one being in the same place - shish?

      According to the Decree, the salaries of the mobilized are equated to contract soldiers.
    2. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 21 September 2022 09: 46
      +7
      And it was necessary not to blurt out the language, but to listen to the president’s speech, he said everything there, that’s why I said above that I prefer to listen not to excerpts, but to speeches in their entirety. Thanks to Churchill, he also did.
    3. Prisoner
      Prisoner 21 September 2022 10: 04
      0
      What are you so immediately fussed about? Is it not fate to get acquainted with the Decree? sad
  19. User_neydobniu
    User_neydobniu 21 September 2022 09: 28
    -2
    At work, I can’t look, the NWO is over and they declared war?
    1. AdAstra
      AdAstra 21 September 2022 09: 30