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The Kalashnikov assault rifle AK-12 was finalized taking into account the use in the special operation of the Russian army in Ukraine

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The Kalashnikov assault rifle AK-12 was finalized taking into account the use in the special operation of the Russian army in Ukraine

The AK-12 assault rifle, adopted by the Russian army in 2018, was finalized taking into account the experience of using it in a special military operation in Ukraine. The machine gun with the proposed improvements has already been presented to the Ministry of Defense. Alan Lushnikov, president of the Kalashnikov concern, spoke about this.


Since the beginning of the special operation, several meetings have been held dedicated to the machine gun. Taking into account the proposals received from the Russian military participating in the SVO, it was proposed to remove the cut-off mode for two shots, install a fire mode switch on both sides, as well as an adjustable butt cheek. Lushnikov did not mention any other changes. According to him, appropriate technical solutions were worked out, a prototype of a new machine gun was created, which was presented to the Ministry of Defense. Now changes are being made to the design documentation to launch the production of a new machine.

(...) in the shortest possible time, we selected technical solutions, made a prototype and demonstrated it to representatives of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Approved technical solutions are now being entered into the design documentation of the machine.

- quotes the words of Lushnikov RIA News

As noted, the AK-12 assault rifle of the 2022 model differs from previously released models "for the better."

Adopted in 2018 by the Russian army, the AK-12 assault rifle has increased accuracy of fire, barrel survivability and improved ergonomics. It has three firing modes: single, automatic, and two-shot burst. On the weapon a removable muzzle brake-compensator is installed, it is possible to install a low-noise and flameless firing device. The buttstock is foldable, adjustable in length, there is a Picatinny rail on the receiver. A 40-mm grenade launcher is installed on the machine.

Caliber - 5,45x39 mm, weapon length in firing position - 880-940 mm, with folded stock - 690 mm, weight without cartridges - 3,5 kg, rate of fire - 700 rounds per minute.
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  1. Maz
    Maz 21 September 2022 07: 10
    +4
    It takes a long time to bring him to mind. And these improvements, they already were. In the primary options .. Designers need to be in the trenches and their machine gun in their hands. And then the game of a damaged phone is obtained through intermediaries.
    1. North Caucasus
      North Caucasus 21 September 2022 07: 42
      -1
      That's for sure about the phone! Those who used this development forgot to ask. it's a pity. According to reviews, they made shit out of coffee! We have an interesting situation in the military. Speaking of new developments, they consistently score on the opinions of users! But in the civilian world cars of reviews can run! How did it happen!? Where are the reviews of consumer fighters?
    2. YOUR
      YOUR 21 September 2022 09: 00
      +2
      There is no broken phone. In order to identify childhood diseases, it is necessary to make a sufficiently large number of copies, then collect feedback and suggestions from the departments directly operating the product.
      What changes are they going to introduce - remove the cut-off for 2 shots, in principle, such a function is not really needed, the cost of the machine will decrease. install a fire mode switch on both sides - a desirable feature. I remember removing the safety lock on the AKM, especially in winter and wearing gloves, it was difficult, the adjustable butt cheek device allows you to make aiming more convenient. But this is in question. A sniper rifle still won’t work, but it can make it difficult to move in the forest, in a plastun way.
      From these improvements it is clear that there are no complaints about the machine itself.
      1. from Dagorlad
        from Dagorlad 21 September 2022 14: 09
        0
        a cutoff of 2 shots is for specialists, removing it and everything else at the exit, isn’t it the same way?
        1. Crimea_
          Crimea_ 21 September 2022 16: 16
          +2
          A two-shot cutoff is stupidity, not for specialists. I'm not special, but when shooting in bursts, without switching, I cut off one at a time. No super skill is needed for this.
      2. SMAKAROV49
        SMAKAROV49 21 September 2022 21: 47
        0
        In general, I will support, but neither AKMS nor AK-74 have problems with the fuse. It bends in the right direction and the pressure to the receiver is regulated, i.e. switching force.
        The adjustable cheekpiece allows you to start shooting offhand earlier.
    3. 2112vda
      2112vda 22 September 2022 08: 16
      +1
      How fast! Did you work as a designer yourself? Touching people who know everything in advance and are experts in all fields of science and technology.
  2. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 21 September 2022 07: 19
    +20
    In general, we will soon return to the previous version of the AK-74M.

    And a butt with an adjustable cheek could be bought in a store and put on any version of the machine even before the invention of the AK-12.

    The directors of the military-industrial complex enterprises are mired in cuts and insolent from the huge money allocated for defense, while there are no really necessary things in the army

    There is no reconnaissance pipe and other observation devices with a periscope that allow you to inspect the area and not expose your head to a bullet or shrapnel.

    There are no normal thermal imagers.

    There are no normal radio stations.

    There are no normal tactical first aid kits.

    I'm not even talking about UAVs, KAZ for tanks.

    There are no more shells at the front.

    But from a good AK-74M, they managed to do the same by spending billions of rubles. Well done, after all, the AK-12 could have done worse than the AK-74M, but they tried, not right away, but in general they got the same thing.

    Shame and shame.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 21 September 2022 07: 30
      +2
      As for radio stations - they seem to use our Chinese Baofengs there - and they are far from enthusiastic about them. Unfortunately, there is nothing better.
      And as for the upgrades to the AK-12, yes, it turns out that after removing the additives, there is a return to the usual 74ke in the body kit. Well, except that there will be a slightly different disassembly-assembly scheme, and the receiver cover will not dangle like on 74k after long-term use - collimators can be hung on it or optics. But how much money was cut on this AK12 ... what
      For this money, it was probably possible to develop a new design.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 21 September 2022 08: 13
        +5
        As for me, the optics on the side crown, although heavier, are still significantly more reliable than the weaver on the lid .. With a good crown, nothing floats anywhere, no matter how much you pull. But fastening - on the spot. For quick-release clamps on a weaver - a rather flimsy thing, and with screws - then a hexagon is needed to remove it.
      2. shtatsov
        shtatsov 21 September 2022 08: 18
        0
        Quote: Nexcom
        As for radio stations - they seem to use our Chinese Baofengs there - and they are far from enthusiastic about them. Unfortunately, there is nothing better.

        I hope a lot of people read us, including decision makers. Write specifically what exactly you are not satisfied with, what can be improved. This does not concern you personally. At least here there will be feedback from end users. At least the benefit of criticism will be! The site is quite popular!
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 21 September 2022 08: 21
          0
          I would be happy to voice. I realized it's not for me...
          It would be great if there was feedback on the issue you indicated in the form of real actions. good
        2. Zug
          Zug 21 September 2022 10: 03
          0
          According to my brother, radio stations are almost never used there, they are instantly hacked and listened to. , there is night vision, but there is no sense in them. As long as someone walks through the forest at night, you can still notice it, as soon as the object is up and motionless about everything, you lost it.
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 21 September 2022 21: 35
            0
            Radio stations are not hacked, but listened to, so with any radio station, therefore, all communications are encrypted, there is a secret ZAS connection, it is encoded but the size of a closet, and a telephone with a handle is TA-57, a wired connection, it is impossible to listen to it, therefore it is considered the most reliable .
            1. Zug
              Zug 21 September 2022 22: 15
              0
              walkie-talkies are encrypted, they are being hacked. They have the equipment.
              1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan 23 September 2022 12: 30
                0
                walkie-talkies are encrypted, they are being hacked. They have the equipment.


                You won’t encrypt anything on a simple walkie-talkie; in order to encrypt communications, you need ZAS equipment. On a conventional walkie-talkie, you can only change frequencies, as a rule, there is always a main and a spare.
                1. Zug
                  Zug 23 September 2022 13: 20
                  0
                  I don’t know, they said so. In short, you won’t convey anything important. Everything I know
                  1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                    Ratmir_Ryazan 23 September 2022 13: 22
                    0
                    I don’t know, they said so. In short, you won’t convey anything important. Everything I know


                    Nothing important is being broadcast on any radio station.
            2. Huan karlos
              Huan karlos 26 September 2022 11: 55
              0
              Not really, if they are mobile (kshm), then they have this ZAS the size of a small suitcase. Served just in this direction
      3. YOUR
        YOUR 21 September 2022 09: 14
        +1
        That's exactly what the Chinese Baofengs, and not the Russian R-some
        Quote: Nexcom
        And as for the upgrades to the AK-12, yes, it turns out that after removing the additives, there is a return to the usual 74ke in the body kit.

        Taken away said ..... well, and so on. on the contrary, they ask to add a body kit - a fire switch on both sides and an adjustable cheek. Although if you look at it, it differs from the AK-74 in ergonomics, a Picatinny rail and the declared barrel survivability. Those. this is AK-74 with the addition of another index for example AK-74M5
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 21 September 2022 09: 16
          0
          GDP announced a partial mobilization. Just watched Russia on TV.
          1. 28st region
            28st region 22 September 2022 07: 25
            +1
            Shoigu gave an explanation of who will be called. Those who have combat experience participated in more than 200 thousand of such in the Russian Federation. He said that they would not immediately send them to Ukraine, they would be replaced by contract soldiers who remained at the place of permanent deployment. How it will actually be life will show. Moreover, he added that those who have the appropriate qualifications of the required specialties will be called upon. Most likely these are infantry, tankers, artillerymen and anti-aircraft gunners.
        2. 28st region
          28st region 22 September 2022 07: 25
          +1
          In general, nothing significant.
    2. Buffet
      Buffet 21 September 2022 08: 12
      -1
      CHEF EVERYTHING IS GONE! THE CLIENT IS LEAVING! THE GYPSUM IS REMOVED!
    3. Zug
      Zug 21 September 2022 09: 57
      0
      They let my brother use the reconnaissance pipe. ...
  3. spirit
    spirit 21 September 2022 07: 42
    +5
    Improve the QUALITY! Assemblies that are complained about in the troops. Do not dishonor the name of Kalashnikov. The Americans have brought their M-ki to the level of reliability of AK, and our "effective" directors are going in the opposite direction to the level of reliability of the first M16
  4. BARKAS
    BARKAS 21 September 2022 08: 00
    +3
    In AKM, over the years of production, more than 700 changes were made, the same thing happened and happens with any weapon in all countries, news at the level of a factory small car.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 21 September 2022 08: 06
      0
      There, changes were made to the technological plan - the construct was not touched.
      The type of milling was replaced with stamping, the barrel mount was strengthened, etc.
  5. Buffet
    Buffet 21 September 2022 08: 09
    -2
    We need more Piccatini slats and then there will definitely be a cannon so a cannon.
  6. paul3390
    paul3390 21 September 2022 08: 09
    +1
    install a fire mode switch on both sides, as well as an adjustable butt cheek
    What's the problem?? All this is sold in any shooting store, I myself put this and that on a rifled Vepr in half an hour ... And on a smooth one, it’s native from the very beginning of release ..
  7. Vasilyevich Pensioner
    Vasilyevich Pensioner 21 September 2022 08: 16
    0
    As noted, the AK-12 assault rifle of the 2022 model differs from previously released models "for the better."
    The author put in quotation marks for what purpose? Usually this is done to quote from the material, it would be logical to designate an automaton from the word. Otherwise, it turns out that the author reports this with irony, doubting the improvement.
  8. Zug
    Zug 21 September 2022 09: 51
    0
    Scream, the AK-12 my brothers went to the store to choose for themselves, the most miserable one is under 20 and 2 channel beyond. I came from the front. I was a full-time sniper. No visors, nothing. Cartridges of tramples are brought in bags. Until they bring everything in the sand ...
    1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
      Vasilyevich Pensioner 21 September 2022 11: 47
      0
      Gorgeous, shops in the war zone. Or the car shop breaks through? About the toptuns. How does sand get into the bag? Are there at least 20 of them? And how much can one drag? For half an hour of fighting.
      1. Zug
        Zug 21 September 2022 17: 14
        0
        So they carry it, in bags. Then the brother cleaned each cartridge. If the machine gun still digests them, then the machine gun wedges.
        1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
          Vasilyevich Pensioner 21 September 2022 17: 35
          0
          So they wear mesh bags, how does sand get into the bag then? And in order for thousands to roll, it is necessary that there were thousands of porters.
          1. Zug
            Zug 21 September 2022 19: 33
            0
            Well, go and see for yourself, my brother went with SVD.
            1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
              Vasilyevich Pensioner 21 September 2022 19: 50
              0
              I have fellow soldiers living there, so I can find out without visiting. Only they did not talk about such features. Maybe it's on the other side?
              1. Zug
                Zug 21 September 2022 19: 52
                0
                Maybe you really have a different side?
                1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                  Vasilyevich Pensioner 21 September 2022 19: 58
                  0
                  Most likely, my brother-soldiers liberated the LPR and are now in the DPR, but they have never seen such problems as in your comment. Here on the other side of you, they said. When we entered the abandoned positions, there was ammunition scattered everywhere.
                  1. Zug
                    Zug 21 September 2022 22: 17
                    0
                    It's up to you to decide on which side who is there? Go there and see for yourself. They brought cartridges in bags to the front line in bulk, and I’m somehow on the side of what your fellow soldier says there. My brother took Orekhovo. But your fellow soldier I don’t know
                    1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                      Vasilyevich Pensioner 22 September 2022 20: 07
                      0
                      I do not decide who is on which side, it was decided by my brother-soldiers who liberate Donbass from your Zelensky wickedness. I don’t need to be convinced of the veracity of my brother-soldiers, since 2014 they have been fighting in practice against your Ukronazism and I don’t care how it all happens there. But about this state of affairs, as you report, they reported about the abandoned positions of the Ukrainians, it turns out about the positions from your story, which are on the side of the Maydanuts. Yes, the network often shows videos from ukrov in which they complain that they are not provided with ammunition. So you have identified yourself on the other side. Nothing, you will be defeated and wash yourself with a bloody yushka for all the suffering of Donbass.
                      1. Zug
                        Zug 22 September 2022 22: 23
                        0
                        They are right there in the VO fighting against the Ukrainians, your fellow soldiers?
                      2. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 07: 22
                        0
                        Yes, my fellow soldiers have been fighting your "great" Ukrainians since 2014. And they have nothing to sit on, their houses have long been bombed by your ghouls. About drinking. So you pierced, your bastards were noticed by drinking and other use of psychotropic drugs, my brother-soldiers find heaps of traces of the use of psychotropic drugs in abandoned positions. About your brother. You can find thousands of such photos on the net and pass them off as your brother. So don't be fooled by fake photos. Our guys will smear dill evil spirits and you will not escape the responsibility for spreading nonsense. Will you shed tears like crocodiles - Didn't realize what you were doing. But it will be too late to repent.
                      3. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 08: 14
                        0
                        Well, come, figs with him to me in Ukraine. At the same time, you will say this to your brother in person. Russia. Karelia. G. Petrozavodsk. If you decide to come, write.
                      4. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 08: 49
                        0
                        Serious people will come to you and you will not hide behind any mythical brother.
                      5. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 08: 51
                        0
                        Cho, will they come straight to Ukraine? It’s weak to ride to the north on your own, to answer for your rotten words? Come, at least for a day!
                      6. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 08: 59
                        0
                        You already decide where you are. And then he rushed about there and not there. Is it weak for you to come to my brother-soldiers, look them in the eye and repeat your Ukropov's invention? Come at least for a moment. They will straighten your brain, of course, if you have it.
                      7. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 09: 08
                        0
                        I didn’t present anything to your fellow soldiers, and I have nothing to ask from them. But here you are tearing your gills and catching up in vain. did not present anything to them. Pensioner ... Karelia.
                      8. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 14
                        0
                        How not to show, but nonsense with supplies? Or has it already faded from the mind? As for the phone, t / e also listen to your pro-Ukropov nonsense? Is she going to change? Yes, as you were Maidan, so you will be on the phone. Look at your greenery, what a blizzard it brings, the deaths of civilians in the Donbass do not bother him, so are you. You will also drive bile like a nightingale.
                      9. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 09: 18
                        0
                        They wrote everything about the delivery of ammunition and features to you there. Hello to fellow soldiers. And if you yourself weren’t there, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. I have nothing to be afraid of, you have my address. And the key word is “my” fellow soldiers, but not you.
                      10. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 22
                        0
                        People like you don't send greetings, people like you are despised because you sing along with the Maydanuts. And you were there (only you don’t need to rub it in about your brother), you have one nonsense about what is there. I'm not the only one who pointed this out to you. Sing on the dill trill, you won’t sing for a long time.
                      11. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 09: 30
                        0
                        Threats of threats ... how boring it is, spit saliva into the monitor. I sent you all the data there. You most importantly scatter accusations yourself.
                      12. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 34
                        0
                        Again Maidan concepts. I'm not threatening, I'm warning about the consequences. In what line was that personally from me? It looks like Maidan thinking here too, you fully reveal your essence. Well, about the last sentence, here, pure Maidan threats. Yes, wipe the drool from the monitor, otherwise I saw them on the monitor and immediately found the culprit. Go to the mirror, you will see the splasher.
                      13. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 09: 36
                        0
                        About the consequences of what? Cartridges in the bag? Did you drink too much valerian? Go drink better.
                      14. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 39
                        0
                        Didn't you get it? Well, it will pass. Valerian? Do you hang out with cats? booze? Well, that's what care is about, about that and suggestions. You are a boozer. :-)
    2. Bogalex
      Bogalex 22 September 2022 19: 24
      0
      AK-12 my brothers went to the store to choose their own sight,<...>. regular sniper

      A sniper going to the store to choose a scope for his regular AK-12? smile Yes, you, my friend, I look, a noble storyteller! wink
      1. Zug
        Zug 22 September 2022 22: 31
        0
        Not for AK 12 But for ordinary. Why for AK 12. There is no such exotic. He went with the usual plus SVD.
        1. Bogalex
          Bogalex 22 September 2022 22: 48
          0
          Which scope did he go to the store to pick ordinary AK??? Have you ever held an AK in your hands?
          What sniper wears both SVD and AK ??? Did your "brother" tell you this too? laughing
          My friend, either someone notably went over your ears, or you are now trying to do this (which I personally would not like to believe, but it seems to me that this is exactly so)!
          1. Zug
            Zug 22 September 2022 23: 57
            -1
            Yes, I went with SVD and AK.
            ... If you haven’t been, don’t be ridiculous. Here is a brother after the battle on May 25
            1. Bogalex
              Bogalex 23 September 2022 00: 53
              0
              Dear, you know, I also have photos from the series "with a machine gun in one hand, a grenade launcher in the other, a grenade next to it on my belt and a bayonet in my teeth." What we just did not amused)))
              But that's not the point. Maybe your brother walks that way to BV, his right.
              And the point is that, according to you, he bought some kind of sights for the AK-12 (according to the first version) or just for AK (according to the second) in stores. Are you ready to answer for these words of yours or not? What sights for AK did a soldier buy - a sniper by profession (!!!), and why?
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              2. Zug
                Zug 23 September 2022 01: 12
                -1
                Firstly, I didn’t write a hundred, he bought for ak 12. It’s not necessary to distort what was written. Second. Upon receiving money from the Ministry of Defense, he looked after a sight for a regular AK for the next trip. Since, according to him, even the simplest is a great thing. Approximately such they send privately to our fighters in Ukraine. And what kind of sight. He knows better. And yes, he also asked for an AK to the SVD, since the SVD is of little use in greenery. their company commander Sergey Vasilyevich (Eternal Memory) died.
            2. Bogalex
              Bogalex 23 September 2022 00: 57
              -1
              PS
              According to indirect signs, the photo shows a "foreign" machine gun, moreover, with an unfastened magazine. Please clarify, for the sake of interest, whether this is true or not.
              1. Zug
                Zug 23 September 2022 01: 14
                -1
                This is the machine gun issued to him. As a second weapon
            3. Bogalex
              Bogalex 23 September 2022 01: 03
              -1
              And yes, here it is: "If you haven't been" use it yourself more carefully, okay? hi
              The merits of a brother / dad / uncle do not elevate you above the interlocutor, especially if you do not know where he himself was.
              1. Zug
                Zug 23 September 2022 01: 16
                -1
                Be careful with what? What do you think that I’m here inventing beautiful stories like Baron Munchausen from nothing to do? By the way, my brother brought me 2 Ukrainian jackets of different types. One is impregnation, a good thing, one American jacket is also NATO sniper unloading.
                1. Bogalex
                  Bogalex 23 September 2022 01: 35
                  -1
                  Be careful with what?

                  With words in the spirit
                  If you haven't been, don't laugh

                  Or are you able to prove that the interlocutor has never been anywhere?
                  If not, but you still laugh, then laughter for no reason, you yourself know, is a sign of a very original thinking.
                  Next.
                  I did not write a hundred, he bought for ak 12

                  Right? But this is what?
                  Scream, my AK-12 brothers went to the store to choose their own sight, the most miserable one costs under 20 and 2 channel is beyond.

                  About
                  This is the machine gun issued to him. As a second weapon

                  I responsibly report to you that machine guns are not issued to snipers as a mythical "second weapon". Neither AK-74(M), nor AK-12, nor any other. This is precisely the "appropriated" copy (which, by the way, I personally have nothing against), and thank God. Only fantasies based on it should not be created.
                  Well, [email protected] about "my brother brought me 2 Ukrainian jackets of different types ...", please, never write to me, okay? Do not disgrace yourself and do not substitute yourself or your brother.
                  1. Zug
                    Zug 23 September 2022 08: 17
                    -1
                    about AK 12, this is sarcasm. They gave him a machine gun. Go short yourself and they will give you a machine gun and bring a couple of jackets as trophies.
                  2. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                    Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 08: 26
                    -1
                    Yes, it’s pro-Ukropovsky, it’s such nonsense about some kind of tramples with bags, in which cartridges mixed with sand, they say, are carried by the poor to the front line tirelessly.
                    1. Zug
                      Zug 23 September 2022 08: 30
                      0
                      Yes, they do, but in sacks. Yes, the cartridges get dirty. , from there waving a stick
                      1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 08: 47
                        0
                        Address, maybe even passwords? About snot. If they flow like a stream for you, this does not mean that others have the same problem. So continue to smear the green under your nose. And my brother-soldiers from the first days on the front line only heard such Ukropov nonsense from prisoners. Nothing, you get yours, they will find you anywhere. In the meantime, wipe the green under your nose.
                      2. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 08: 52
                        0
                        Why look for me? Karelia, Petrozavodsk. 89116604146-call, I will personally meet you.
                      3. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 08: 55
                        -1
                        My brother wrote to you personally, asked me to tell you, defender of the fatherland:


                        Listen, couch experts.
                        stop spouting nonsense.
                        I chose a driven hunting sight for fighting in the green on the SVD as an additional one. it’s not for you to kick your ass why and why. in the photo I have my machine gun with fastened horns. it is inconvenient in the trenches, but there is no place for them in the unloading, so I went like that.
                        I begged for a machine gun after the assault on Orekhovo, when it pressed. no need to pose as a wise guy, which is given out. grief when what is supposed to be not issued. I see a lot of specialists on the ax gathered, you should be bl ... combed properly. 50 percent of such hinged pontorez from the entire composition rolled on these hinges home to his wife with squeals - we are here for meat. it's in the sites you are all specialists. I read your calculations here, people who were neither under bullets, nor under mines, nor under phosphorus, but you tear your graze as if they took Kyiv. sit in your shit and don't blather


                        at the expense of cartridges, they carried packs in potato bags, from walking and rain they were torn and spilled out. bullets of cartridges made holes in the fabric and a bag thrown by tramplers on the ground collected everything inside. after that, the cartridges had to be selected otherwise the machines jammed when feeding inlgda tightly
                      4. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 02
                        0
                        Yeah, you pass off essays for your brother too? Somehow quickly communication with the front line turned out. Maybe there is a direct connection with the commanders, do you give out your Ukropov advice?
                      5. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 09: 05
                        0
                        So will you come? My brother came home on June 16 from there. I struck everything there, you’ll talk with your brother yourself. He’ll tell you everything, at the same time you’ll answer for Svidomo, pensioner
                      6. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 08
                        0
                        So you don't want to visit my fellow soldiers. They are on the front line, not like "your brother" in a difficult situation on vacation.
                      7. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 09: 13
                        0
                        My brother is a volunteer. , there we will meet
                      8. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 17
                        0
                        Do you want to join my fellow soldiers? Well done, they have corrected your brains. Keep rubbing about "brother", you have long lost faith.
                      9. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 09: 24
                        0
                        But what does faith have to do with it? I gave you the address, come, you'll see for yourself. I'm not hiding behind a fake page. There is an address, there is a phone number. What's the problem then? how to wave the flag
                      10. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 29
                        0
                        Here's another Ukropov's essence that got out of you, the Maidanites just like that grab the dissatisfied and torture them in the casemates, shoot them. I am not a judge, serious people in power will come to you. About the fake page. You don't even have a name, you hid behind the Latin alphabet. About not a fellow soldier. Actually, I served with them in the same unit, if that can tell you anything. Although ....
                      11. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 09: 31
                        0
                        And ... so you won’t come yourself? It’s a pity. And again threats ... threats ... Free, pensioner
                      12. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 36
                        0
                        Again, it did not reach the dill, there are no threats from me, only warnings. But it seems simple does not reach the mind. About freedom. And no one can deprive me of it, so you wait, you should be interested.
                      13. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 09: 38
                        0
                        Who are you to warn me? .Look better and think what you write
                      14. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 41
                        0
                        Here is another manner of the Maydanovites. Him about his actions, and he wants to shift his jambs to someone. Well, a purebred Ukrainian.
                      15. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 09: 43
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                        Well, you’ll prove that I’m a Maidanovite. If you can. But no, you yourself will be pulled up for slander, the same organs with which you threaten me
                      16. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 46
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                        And I don’t need to prove anything, your scribble proves about something that doesn’t exist - a slander against our guys. And I do not threaten the authorities, I warn of responsibility to them.
                      17. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 09: 51
                        0
                        A person who fought in the Donbas has documents confirming this, a diploma from a unit, recommendations, etc. All the accusations you throw here about the Maydanuts and Svidomo and supposedly I am Ukrainian and that my brother "fake" can lead to the fact that you will be sorry. For me and for my brother too
                      18. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 09: 55
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                        Here it is all over again. Claims not to someone, but to you, spreading nonsense about the state in a combat situation. And this is inherent only to the Maydanuts. What is the conclusion, the conclusion is simple - you picked up the verbal wave that the Maidanovites are chasing. Accomplice.
                      19. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 10: 00
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                        Here's your brother asked me to pass:


                        especially for Mr. Pensioner: You and people like you are always looking around for enemies, the signs of which you yourself invent, and then hang labels when there is essentially nothing to answer. You and people like you are the worst problem in our country. maniacal passion to look for and see enemies everywhere is the eternal problem of idiots. don't look for them, the enemy is within you.
                        Idiots are Russia's main problem.
                        Where I am is none of your business. the main thing is where I have been and where I will be and where you have been and will be. and stop trumping fellow soldiers, what if they will be ashamed to trump for you?
                      20. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 10: 06
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                        Here again, he threw out his writings. In what place did I make a claim to any brother? In what comment did I make a location claim? Here is an example of the fantasy of a sick brain about what is not. And here I am to you about the fact that you are posting nonsense that has not gone away from here. Or already screwed up? About to stop trumping fellow soldiers. I do not trump, but I am proud of them. And why should they trump for me? I'm not there, they are.
                      21. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 10: 12
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                        That's right, you've never been there and claim what you haven't seen, and therefore you think that it doesn't exist. Just because you didn't like what was written, you start to slander and slander people, and those who were there. so people in bags in cardboard boxes carry cartridges to the front line? Would you take sedatives...
                      22. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 10: 18
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                        Was not. And you were? Didn't like what you wrote? Of course I didn't like it. To slander people? Not on people, but to bring you to clean water. Here are a bunch of videos from the Vushniks stating that they have no ammunition, but not a single one from ours (okay, you don’t believe my fellow soldiers). I'm not talking about official videos, but a free video from the Donbass. Well, at least one.
                      23. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 10: 21
                        0
                        And my brother was there. And he didn’t complain about the lack of ammunition. Again you distort. It was only about delivering ammunition in this way. And bring yourself to clean water. When you visit there. .
                      24. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 10: 27
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                        Once again, it's just your writing. Can you imagine that ammunition is delivered to the front line in bags? Yes, this bag is not enough for half an hour, how many porters do you need? About came up with ours. Read carefully, we are talking about a complaint from the EU. And about ours that there are no complaints at all. If they were dragged in bags, then there would already be complaints about it. Mute your fantasy, maybe take a sip of the pills yourself, otherwise Ostap suffered.
                      25. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 10: 31
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                        I'm not interested in complaints from the APU.

                        But in fact, people delivered ammunition to the front line in bags in cardboard boxes, an automatic rifle was given to my brother at his request after the assault on Orekhovo. made on the day of the death of his company commander and his friend. ALL
                      26. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 10: 37
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                        In fact, people can deliver ammunition to the front line if they arrived at the front line, all the videos show that they are uploaded to the very worst. But this does not mean that there are your tramples, as you imagine such a supply. I didn’t talk about the automatic machine to my brother at all, it was another interlocutor who pointed out the inconsistency to you. I won't talk about death. A lot of guys are dying, even though there are many times more of them, but ours are more pitiful. Stop talking nonsense, you yourself are already confused.
                      27. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 10: 44
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                        I wrote to you in fact, my brother is not yet registered on the site, so he asked me to tell him personally about the delivery of ammunition. There is a video from the copter of the death of the second company commander after his brother left home. and, according to my brother, also water. They were covered with mines. Four died instantly. for bags and for many other things, for example
                      28. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 10: 49
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                        Once again, I don't want to die. This is a very difficult topic for me. My uncle's son died there, my brother. They are from Odessa. About ammunition. Can you imagine, somewhere a warehouse, and somewhere advanced. This is how you need to wear it to be enough? The fight is not rifle, with a machine gun, when interacting, it shoots out like a river. Although they try not to be in continuous queues.
                      29. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 10: 53
                        +1
                        Yes, far away, my brother said that they could hardly stand on their feet, they just brought it, turned around and left. So people there through the can’t and carried ammunition. , and I will go there too. To avenge Sergei Vasilich
                      30. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 10: 58
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                        I would believe it if it were from a delivery that you can’t bring close, but not from a warehouse. About revenge. As soon as I found out about the death of my brother, I also wanted to, but my age was already close to seventy, they didn’t even talk. And it’s easier for fellow soldiers, they have been there since 2014, no one will drive them from the front line.
                      31. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 11: 00
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                        Well, I'm sorry that age does not allow. And I have 2 honey. articles .. What is it like to let the twin go there and not sleep for months. Now it may work out. I don’t know while we are waiting for news. Brother wants to get into his consolidated squad. it's a pity..
                      32. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 11: 04
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                        Thank you. Well, this, if anything offensive, it is on emotions from my thoughts about my fellow soldiers and brother. Boils often from the news from there.
                      33. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 11: 06
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                        Yes, I’m sorry too. I’m from Karelia, from the north. Right now I’m on a betrayal myself. If I go, which is really pissing, then for my own money, and they can still turn back home. And what to do? I see big things coming ..
                      34. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 11: 15
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                        I'm from Siberia. Fellow soldiers reported that at first it was scary, especially under the hail. Now, of course, there is fear, but protective. And as soon as the mess begins, everyone is forgotten. Often they pull each other out of intemperance, maybe that's why they have been fighting for so long. God bless all defenders. It seems that he is not a believer, but they show it on TV and somehow I involuntarily cross myself three times.
                      35. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 11: 18
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                        Let them return. How my brother returned. My grandfather, by the way, is from Siberia. In Kandalaksha, he met the war later. From Omsk, I think .. Or Tomsk, I confuse everything
                      36. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 11: 23
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                        Yes, we are waiting for the victory. Fellow soldiers are practically at home, although there are no houses themselves. Then countrymen, my grandfather and father from Omsk were called. Luckily, we're back.
                      37. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 11: 20
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                        And the dill jackets are nothing. My brother brought me 2, a trophy. I wear them))) The owners no longer need them)))
                      38. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 11: 21
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                        Here is the description - brother just forwarded



                        ammunition was carried by treadmills (mules), that is, reservists from the LC from the feeder (temporary small warehouses), etc. on themselves, and precisely because of this it was a pity if they later became unusable. Equipped machine-gun belts in bags tore them even faster, because of the metal belts, the cartridges instantly rusted, clogged with earth and were lying around unnecessary to anyone. by the way, then there were no tramps and we already dragged bk ourselves. and also water, with which there are eternal problems.
                        which store do you mean? warehouse warehouse strife. the dill, by the way, where I was there were no problems with the BC, they planted armor-piercing incendiary machine guns on us. papadet- horseradish put out. our analogue will fly at 600 meters instead of ours at 400. although I don’t see an advantage in this. the supply is a cut above - food (by the way, there is also Russian stew), dry rations from all over the world, good armor, equipment. to trophy something from them was a desirable thing. I have never seen captured weapons, with the exception of DShKM under the scope, etc., RPG, Pturov.
                      39. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 11: 31
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                        Okay, this is endless. And about everything here is a video, and there are many such you can find. Of course, where this has been prepared for several years, this is unlikely to happen, but such places are not everywhere. https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2022/05/24/14898548.shtml
                      40. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                        Vasilyevich Pensioner 23 September 2022 11: 34
                        0
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJ-mvQLh54&ab_channel=%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%A2%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C
                      41. Zug
                        Zug 23 September 2022 11: 38
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                        it’s different everywhere. The point is that my brother was in the LPR troops, a volunteer. And these are different things with warriors. My brother wrote that they even ate dumplings in plastic buckets.
                  3. Zug
                    Zug 23 September 2022 08: 54
                    0
                    My brother read your writings and asked me to send this:
                    Listen, couch experts.
                    stop spouting nonsense.
                    I chose a driven hunting sight for fighting in the green on the SVD as an additional one. it’s not for you to kick your ass why and why. in the photo I have my machine gun with fastened horns. it is inconvenient in the trenches, but there is no place for them in the unloading, so I went like that.
                    I begged for a machine gun after the assault on Orekhovo, when it pressed. no need to pose as a wise guy, which is given out. grief when what is supposed to be not issued. I see a lot of specialists gathered on the axe, you should be bl ... combed properly. 50 percent of such hinged pontorez from the entire composition rolled on these hinges home to his wife with squeals - we are here for meat. it's in the sites you are all specialists. I read your calculations here, people who were neither under bullets, nor under mines, nor under phosphorus, but you tear your graze as if they took Kyiv. sit in your shithole and don't blather.

                    about ammo:
                    at the expense of cartridges, they carried packs in potato bags, from walking and rain they were torn and spilled out. bullets of cartridges made holes in the fabric and a bag thrown by tramplers on the ground collected everything inside. after that, the cartridges had to be selected otherwise the machines jammed when feeding inlgda tightly



              2. Zug
                Zug 23 September 2022 08: 35
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                They don’t rise above the interlocutor? I actually initially wrote about the ammunition carriers. Why do they carry cartridges like that, ask yourself. And I know exactly where my brother was. And they didn’t have sights on the AK.
  9. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 21 September 2022 22: 46
    -1
    All the chatter is about the Kalashnikov Concern monopolist
    with his three know-how nuts,
    which drastically improved the so-called brand.
    The Piccatini strip appeared, for example.
    But the magazine reset button (M-16) is not.

    There was such a singer - Pugacheva Alla, buried
    a bunch of talents to the grave.

    The problem is not the concern.
    B - that competition in the military-industrial complex
    trying to provide only the United States.

    From opponents - I expect denials.
    1. Bogalex
      Bogalex 22 September 2022 19: 20
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      Yes Easy.
      The direct competitor of the AK-12 was the Kovrov AEK, winner competition on the topic "Warrior".
      Competition in the military-industrial complex, therefore, was not a joke - the Ministry of Defense provided it. The problem was that the military-industrial complex itself does not need competition - there "the hand washes its hand." And when your former gene. director suddenly became deputy. Minister of Defense - so in general miracles happen all the time.
      1. Dkuznecov
        Dkuznecov 22 September 2022 20: 11
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        That's what I'm talking about. Pity the carpet people.
        Developers should have fat for promising projects,
        and when you live from bread to water, it’s not up to them.
  10. Ingenegr
    Ingenegr 21 September 2022 23: 17
    +2
    AK-12/15 and their forerunner - the "200" series - is sabotage in its purest form. Breeding like cockroaches, "consultants" in KK realized their sexual fantasies at the expense of the treasury, i.e. taxpayers' funds. Yesterday's midwives, paramedics, journalists and other IPSC "masturbators" determined the appearance of the machine gun for the troops ... It turned out not just bad, but very bad. Listing all the "jambs" with a detailed description will draw on a whole article, which in about a month and a half I will offer for publication on the site.
    So far, briefly about the main disadvantages:
    1. The absence of a side bar is the most serious, to say the least, a critical drawback;
    2. The design and functionality of the stock is terrible;
    3. The actual absence of a ramrod and accessories is either stupidity or sabotage. Theoretically, they are, in fact, they are inaccessible in a reasonable time interval;
    4. The performance of the translator-fuse is too much for an amateur "practice", without reference to common sense;
    5. Completing the machine with "limited use" stores is pure sabotage and even a crime;
    6. The design and fixation of the receiver cover on both the AK-12/15 and the "200" do not provide, if necessary, quick access to the automation mechanism;
    7. A fashionable belt with a QD swivel should be left for shooting at the shooting range. In war, you need a reliable belt.
    1. andranick
      andranick 22 September 2022 10: 57
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      If possible, give examples / comparisons of "what is good and what is bad" in the article. I saw the AK-12/15 tokma in the photo, I will be waiting for your article!
  11. Bogalex
    Bogalex 22 September 2022 19: 16
    0
    Haven't heard a single positive review about it yet.
  12. Dedok
    Dedok 23 September 2022 15: 18
    0
    The Kalashnikov assault rifle AK-12 was finalized ...


    I just want to say: finalized with a file, right on the front line?
    but in essence: how many years did the drag with tests, comparisons and acceptance and production start last?
    What have you been doing all these years?
    could not share the budget allocated for it?
  13. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 25 September 2022 15: 28
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    "Taking into account the proposals received from the Russian military participating in the SVO, it was proposed to remove the cut-off mode for two shots, install a fire mode switch on both sides, as well as an adjustable butt cheek."
    That is, they removed unnecessary garbage, which was most actively advertised. The fire mode switch and adjustable cheekpiece can be inexpensively and quickly put on the AK-74M and AK hundredth series, but you can’t steal so much there.
  14. Shturmer
    Shturmer 27 October 2022 07: 36
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    In cutoff modes, he often catches a wedge. That's why they removed it.