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The Armed Forces of Ukraine are gathering forces on the western bank of the Ingulets for transfer to the Andreevsky bridgehead, waiting for the river level to drop

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The Armed Forces of Ukraine are gathering forces on the western bank of the Ingulets for transfer to the Andreevsky bridgehead, waiting for the river level to drop

The rise of the Ingulets River after the attacks on the dam in Krivoy Rog significantly complicated the supply of the Andreevsky bridgehead. At present, units of the 57th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and paratroopers from the 46th airborne assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are on "our" shore, located in a "fire bag", which is actually shot through.


The command of the Ukrainian grouping attempted to pull our forces away from the Andreevsky bridgehead, carrying out a distracting maneuver with a tactical landing on the Kinburn Spit, but the idea failed. As already reported, Russian intelligence discovered the Ukrainian landing force in time and destroyed it. Thus, all units of the Russian army, drawn to the Andreevsky bridgehead, remained in their positions.

The enemy continues to gather forces on the western bank of the Ingulets, preparing to force it as soon as the water level in the river drops. In the meantime, the supply of the bridgehead is being carried out by transferring small groups and crews of the Stugna-P anti-tank systems on MI-8 helicopters. Ukrainian helicopter pilots predict the moments when Russian Su-35S fighters are not in the air and transfer reinforcements. Data on the presence in the air of the Russian aviation The APU receives from American and NATO intelligence, AWACS and Rivet Joint aircraft of the US Air Force are constantly hanging in the air, me each other.

The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not going to surrender the bridgehead despite the losses both in personnel and in equipment. The retention of the Andreevsky bridgehead is presented in Kyiv as a great victory. The plans of Zelensky and his advisers are to break the defense of the Russian army in this area and, developing the offensive, capture Kherson, which needs to be "punished."

An attempt by the Ukrainian authorities to solve the problem with the water level in Ingulets failed, the Russian Aerospace Forces delivered a new blow to the dam, putting a final end to Kyiv's attempts. Now the flood of the river is forcing the Armed Forces of Ukraine to postpone attempts to transfer armored vehicles to the bridgehead. Attempts to establish a crossing are thwarted by Russian aviation.
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  1. Flooding
    Flooding 18 September 2022 16: 21
    +5
    Ukrainian helicopter pilots predict the moments when Russian Su-35S fighters are not in the air and transfer reinforcements.

    "Guessing" with the participation of intelligence and NATO specialists.
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 18 September 2022 16: 26
      +33
      All the same, our flamethrower systems are not enough here to put an end to this Bandera bridgehead.
      1. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 18 September 2022 18: 20
        +4
        Andreevsky bridgehead is being ironed by our Airborne Forces in strengthening their Art 122-mm, 152-mm, 203-mm, MLRS and TOS
        1. iouris
          iouris 18 September 2022 18: 46
          +13
          The Airborne Forces serve for landing behind enemy lines, and not for defense. Use of a resource inappropriately.
          1. Romario_Argo
            Romario_Argo 18 September 2022 18: 50
            0
            the supreme commanded. and the soldiers follow orders and do not discuss, even in the Airborne Forces
          2. ABC-schutze
            ABC-schutze 18 September 2022 21: 42
            +3
            Put +, but ...

            The Airborne Forces of the Russian Armed Forces today are the basis of the MTR, capable, by virtue of being in constant readiness, at any time to solve any assigned tasks. Both offensive and defensive - "positional" in nature ...

            But it is clear that work from the "trenches" is not their main purpose. So, I believe, this is due to the SIGNIFICANT advantage of the enemy in this direction (MULTIPLE ...) in MANUAL force, which the Airborne Forces are able to effectively "grind", due to their highest training ...
          3. Alexander Salenko
            Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 01
            +2
            Come on? The Airborne Forces, this is a quick transfer of winged infantry, not necessarily to the rear, and the overwhelming majority of the landing force landed without parachuting, but landing on a captured airfield. Well, even a landing in the rear, for example, they captured a bridge, which then needs to be defended. What does it mean that the airborne forces are not intended for defense? Can you tell me about the experience of WWII landing battles?
            1. valentine light
              valentine light 19 September 2022 10: 30
              0
              "Heard" your conversation and decided to say a word about the defense of the Airborne Forces.

              The task of the fighters of the airborne unit is to capture and hold a profitable or important territory - a "bridgehead", BEFORE the Main Forces Approach.
              Taking into account the fact that this territory did not have a layered defense by the forces of the corps (3-4 regiments) of the enemy.
              It’s the same about holding a bridgehead - the Airborne Forces can hold the defense, without echeloning by motorized infantry and
              support arts it's hard and unpredictable.
              If the Airborne Forces hold for more than 3 days, then there is support, and it is possible to integrate into the units of the main forces in this direction.
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 18 September 2022 19: 00
          +1
          Quote: Romario_Argo
          Andreevsky bridgehead is being ironed by our Airborne Forces in strengthening their Art 122-mm, 152-mm, 203-mm, MLRS and TOS

          Why is there 203 mm?
          So serious fortifications?
          1. Romario_Argo
            Romario_Argo 18 September 2022 19: 07
            +4
            there are no fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
            SAU Pion 203-mm very flexible tool
            you can hammer with land mines, you can use UAS, while some self-propelled guns from the battery (4) are thrown with cassettes - neither infantry nor equipment will pass
            + TOS-1A Solntsepek was pulled up, the number is not known - (1 exactly)
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 18 September 2022 20: 07
              +4
              Quote: Romario_Argo
              there are no fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

              I do not argue, because don't know
              but it seems to me that the resource should be protected
              on field fortifications 152 mm + MLRS behind the eyes
              1. Alexander Salenko
                Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 02
                +3
                I agree, and the larger the caliber, the higher the barrel wear, all other things being equal.
          2. Romario_Argo
            Romario_Argo 18 September 2022 19: 33
            0
            By the way, did anyone notice the difference in the automatic loader on the T-72B3M tank
            there was a shot at the 8th second, there was a shot at the 6th second
            [media = https: //vk.com/video-63352300_456260633]
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 18 September 2022 19: 51
              +4
              and did anyone notice the difference in the automatic loader on the T-72B3M tank
              there was a shot at the 8th second, there was a shot at the 6th second

              This is not indicative, it all depends on where the desired cassette is located in the conveyor. If in the capture of the cassette lifting mechanism, then immediately lift the cassette - two moves of the rammer - the wedge closes and the gun stands on the line of sight. And that's it, FIRE.
          3. Kesha1980
            Kesha1980 18 September 2022 21: 20
            +2
            So serious fortifications?

            Long-term storage warehouses are so extensive - a low bow to fathers and grandfathers. Disposal.
      2. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 18 September 2022 21: 20
        +5
        It seems that there is not enough electronic warfare (REW) equipment capable of effectively and continuously counteracting the work of the AWACS, incl. and the transfer of information from the "boards" to its consumers ...

        It is also not clear why the lumps of the Kyiv Nazis cut off from the main forces at the Andreevsky bridgehead are not covered with "bomb carpets"? .. Especially since the so-called. "Fire bag" in which they were driven "shoots through"?.. That is. in terms of its area, for lining with "bomb carpets" from the stocks of OFAB-100 (which is the "sea"), it has the most optimal parameters ... Why depreciate artillery barrels and spend ammunition and motor resources of MLRS systems? ..

        And are the Russian BUKs and these chaotically "jumping" remnants of the helicopter fleet of the Kyiv Nazis not able to "get it"? .. After all, if the bridgehead is shot through by long-range artillery, then the VP above it should be "overlapped" by BUK-located along various sections of its perimeter ah, I guess...
      3. Harald
        Harald 18 September 2022 21: 58
        0
        I've been waiting for area bombing and napalm attacks for two weeks. Burn the bridgehead. From a great height, outside the MANPADS.
        1. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 04
          -1
          Why, you might say? The Armed Forces of Ukraine consistently supply what turns into minced meat there.
      4. valentine light
        valentine light 19 September 2022 10: 18
        0
        Since 1947, it has been full of free-fall bombs - they are cheaper, but in the mass they are strong.
    2. Siberian 66
      Siberian 66 18 September 2022 16: 27
      +50
      And we are not able to organize a round-the-clock duty?? Some kind of nonsense .... That is, we know that during breaks !!! combat duty, the enemy flies as he wants, and just look at it ??? I hope this is not true and the reason is different .. Which, however, is also not good at all ...
      1. Ritter Runkel
        Ritter Runkel 18 September 2022 16: 42
        +1
        Was ist mit Panzir 1s und 2.Reichweite 40 km. Müßte doch arbeiten?
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 18 September 2022 16: 52
          +5
          In Russian, my German brother. Only in Russian
          1. Rage66
            Rage66 18 September 2022 17: 44
            +4
            He asked why they are not working on them?
          2. Ritter Runkel
            Ritter Runkel 18 September 2022 19: 22
            +2
            Russkii Jaseyk b schkole b historic 50 sorog, schaas plocho. hi
          3. Valentine
            Valentine 18 September 2022 19: 52
            0
            He asked: What about tanks 1 and 2? Range 40 km. Should it work?
            1. ABC-schutze
              ABC-schutze 18 September 2022 21: 28
              +2
              Not with "tanks", but with the Pantsir air defense system ...
              1. ABC-schutze
                ABC-schutze 18 September 2022 21: 34
                +2
                However, this is a very funny "Curl" ...

                Er zagt, daz es im jetzt mit russisch schlecht zai, bezuht dennoh dabay, ganz flyisich den russischen portal yeden tag...
          4. Ritter Runkel
            Ritter Runkel 19 September 2022 11: 38
            0
            Raketschiki Systema Panzir 1 and 2? Systema Kub, Krug, Wolchow, Dwina, Don u dagdalje. good
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 18 September 2022 16: 58
          0
          Quote from Ritter Runkel
          40 km. Müßte doch arbeiten?

          I understood. I have a hacienda forty by forty kilometers. Do you want to work on it? Well, this is Human Resources
          1. poquello
            poquello 18 September 2022 17: 23
            -3
            Quote: Tusv
            Quote from Ritter Runkel
            40 km. Müßte doch arbeiten?

            I understood. I have a hacienda forty by forty kilometers. Do you want to work on it? Well, this is Human Resources

            payment in two tanks, advance payment first then second
        3. Terenin
          Terenin 18 September 2022 17: 11
          +12
          Quote from Ritter Runkel
          Was ist mit Panzir 1s und 2.Reichweite 40 km. Müßte doch arbeiten?

          Yes, according to the information that reaches us, it is not at all clear what is happening there request
        4. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 18 September 2022 17: 31
          +5
          No. Ukrainian helicopters move at extremely low altitudes. The shell can work on them only in the line of sight.
          1. Romario_Argo
            Romario_Argo 18 September 2022 18: 25
            +1
            I agree, but after a series of explanations
            ZRPK Pantsir-S1 has 2 optical channels and 2 radar channels with a radio horizon of 40 km
            as the NWO radio horizon shows, a conditional thing - air defense systems use terrain folds for at least some kind of stealth, constantly changing positions or working on the move - therefore, in line of sight - this corresponds to a range of 20 km
            1. Ritter Runkel
              Ritter Runkel 18 September 2022 18: 59
              0
              Auf russischen(sowjetischen)Flugplatz war für RSBN und RADARMARKER künstliche Berge etwa 10 Meter hoch um Radar Horizont vergrößern. Nur eine Idea von Mir. soldier
              1. Alexga
                Alexga 18 September 2022 19: 57
                +3
                Yes, for old complexes they set it that way. Now this is not necessary. But almost no one sees air assets at altitudes up to 30 meters.
          2. ABC-schutze
            ABC-schutze 18 September 2022 21: 51
            +2
            In fact, the "Shells" deployed on the theater of operations should be promptly, according to the situation, "matched" into a single POV / ABM system in the theater. And there are such technical possibilities ...

            Those. should receive information on the situation in the airspace and "control center" for defeat in the airspace online from systems of a higher level capable of monitoring the situation at altitudes up to 10 meters. After all, the "towers" deployed for such purposes are included in the "kit" of the same S-400 ...
        5. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 08
          0
          I didn’t understand who should work there, use a translator, it is available on the Internet. And then I, too, can say in German like: Maine Kleine, the piglet ran along the Strasse.
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 18 September 2022 17: 25
        +4
        What for? This bridgehead cannot be used for an offensive - it is very small, there is nowhere and no way to accumulate personnel and equipment. But this is an excellent mass grave - it is shot through, along with the crossings.
        1. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 10
          0
          I say the same to the members of the community.
        2. ABC-schutze
          ABC-schutze 19 September 2022 12: 06
          0
          Covering with "bomb carpets" is more economical than "continuously shooting through." The barrels are depreciated, fuel and lubricants are consumed, the personnel get tired, constantly changing firing positions and continuously searching for targets. And all this is still very useful. After all, to Transnistria (after the liberation of Odessa), the border with the Poles, and even to the banks of the Dnieper, you still have to go with battles ...

          And it is clear that it is unacceptable to leave behind the regime of the Kyiv Natsiks (and its owners) "at least a piece" of the territory of the former united Ukraine. Over time, they "smell", and, not finished to the end, not destroyed, everything will start "over again" ...

          And again, perhaps already the children of today's Russians, will have to solve the same problems ...

          And their remaining "turntables" so far, after all, not only personnel and ammunition are delivered to the bridgehead. But they are also engaged in "evacuation" FROM THERE, return flights. Evacuating the same wounded mercenaries or some "advisers" for treatment.

          Do the Russians need it?
      3. Yapet100
        Yapet100 18 September 2022 18: 13
        +7
        And if the Nazis still break through to Kherson, will this be presented to us as another regrouping?
        1. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 18 September 2022 18: 29
          0
          even if there is a breakthrough to Kherson with a front of 5-10 km
          there, at least a battalion of the Airborne Forces of the 45th Brigade of the Special Forces will rise to death on 36 BMD-4
          with cover of helicopters Ka-52, Mi-35, Mi-28, Mi-8
        2. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 14
          +3
          If, as the Spartans once answered. They suffer losses, what does not suit you? And in general, you have no idea what Kherson and the Kherson region are, if you go out into the field and sit down, it’s far to see you. Although the steppe is not a table and even forest belts are not rare there, it will not work to secretly accumulate large forces there.
          And about the regrouping, well, what did the counterattack near Kharkov give? Here in VO they wrote in one article as an operational success, what an operational, tactical, yes, operational success, so that it is clear - this is Debaltseve. Even Mariupol, with all the hemorrhoids of its capture, sorry, liberation.
        3. IvanSviridov
          IvanSviridov 19 September 2022 09: 05
          +1
          No, but what? Any "retreat" can correctly be described by the term "regrouping".
      4. hector
        hector 18 September 2022 18: 48
        +5
        Quote: Sibiryak 66
        And we are not able to organize a round-the-clock duty?? Some kind of nonsense .... That is, we know that during breaks !!! combat duty, the enemy flies as he wants, and just look at it ???

        Somewhere air superiority has disappeared, it seems that after six months of NWO the enemy feels freer than at the beginning.
      5. for
        for 18 September 2022 22: 52
        -2
        Quote: Sibiryak 66
        what's in between!

        Admiral's hour is sacred.
      6. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 06
        0
        Answered above, so we give them to transfer reinforcements by helicopters. It’s tempting to shoot down a turntable, but it’s no less tempting to extinguish dill on a prepared line from sighted positions. Let them drag the wounded on the return flight, and ammunition there, they don’t move anywhere from that bridgehead and are unable to move.
    3. Boycott
      Boycott 18 September 2022 16: 27
      +11
      I would drop one of the constantly hanging ones, then you can apologize, they say, oh, a mistake came out, they mixed it up with Ukrainian.
      1. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 18 September 2022 19: 04
        +3
        They hang in the airspace of other countries. So nothing can be done.
    4. Sergey39
      Sergey39 18 September 2022 16: 34
      +2
      Perhaps they are specially launched into the "fire bag". For destruction.
      1. Drotro
        Drotro 18 September 2022 16: 48
        +8
        Possibly, most likely, probably, probably.
        Guessing, as usual.
        Nothing new. We will see everything as events unfold.
        Everyone sees the future in their own way. An optimist is bright, a pessimist is not very.
      2. Jonny_Su
        Jonny_Su 18 September 2022 17: 05
        -4
        This is dangerous. Today you're trying to bag, and tomorrow you.
        1. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 15
          +2
          Believe it or not, war is generally a dangerous thing.
          1. Jonny_Su
            Jonny_Su 19 September 2022 18: 29
            -1
            I willingly believe. But I don’t believe in “being lured into a bag”, not in this campaign.
            1. Alexander Salenko
              Alexander Salenko 20 September 2022 06: 17
              0
              With faith - these are questions to the priest, in fact, I see the grinding of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the bridgehead.
      3. poquello
        poquello 18 September 2022 17: 32
        +1
        Quote: Sergey39
        Perhaps they are specially launched into the "fire bag". For destruction.

        ) they hang somewhere over Poland, "above" in this case does not have a literal expression
      4. carpenter
        carpenter 18 September 2022 18: 22
        +2
        Quote: Sergey39
        Perhaps they are specially launched into the "fire bag". For destruction.

        Yep, this is the third week.
    5. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 18 September 2022 18: 55
      +1
      a single Ukrainian Mi-8 can throw BC and 20 soldiers into a semi-cauldron - until they shoot down
      well, one - well, two - well, three - on the fourth flight will be shot down
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 16
        +1
        Or it will run out of motor resources. As I said, such a reinforcement, homeopathy.
    6. Alexga
      Alexga 18 September 2022 19: 44
      +1
      "Guessing" with the participation of intelligence and NATO specialists.

      I specifically looked at the Flytradar, so south of the Crimea, an American plane circled for a long time. It is strange that the identification system was turned on. Although, these are neutral waters.
    7. Bulgarian_5
      Bulgarian_5 18 September 2022 21: 37
      +1
      Again cuckolding in action.
      the Russian Federation does not have real working situational awareness, you are only fooling around for static targets.

      They bombed the river to raise the level, now the level will drop and the APU continues further forward, and the Russian Federation does not even know where they are and what they are doing.

      No UAVs, no satellites, no reconnaissance. helicopter groups.
      They promised air superiority, but in reality it is very dangerous to fly there.

      There is no point in even talking about the lack of ammunition and equipment.

      at the same time, kamikaze barrage UAVs began to be used to strengthen the psycho. pressure, when this technique can also be used for reconnaissance.

      Some other people here commented that the Russian Federation does not have a UAV with a longer range, only Orlani remained there, but they have a range of only 20-30 km, if I'm not mistaken?
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 19
        -1
        No ammunition? My dear Bulgarian interlocutor, we only have ammunition in Sevastopol to hell, very different, even 12-inch shells are available and there is something to release them, it’s just that there is no such goal. And there is no battleship to come up and fuck, there is a coastal defense battery, although now it is a museum, but everything is in working order and in three days you can make it combat ready.
    8. Bulgarian_5
      Bulgarian_5 18 September 2022 21: 43
      +2
      if there is still air defense and BUKs, etc. they work, you can launch 2 bistro flying bombers and behind for 5-10 kilometers an anti-radar pair on the Su 25 / Su34

      Su 25 modification T has such a 'under' which allows you to detect enemy radars and use anti-radar missiles on them.

      When the bombers fly by and launch their bombs, the enemy turns on their radars and then the 2nd pair detects and destroys them.

      This is how the US and its allies work, but they are crawling drones.
      Azeri crawled UAV based on An2

      Can 10-15 old An2-type aircraft be converted, do they have a large EPR similar to a bomber / fighter, so as not to risk the lives of pilots?
      1. skeptic
        skeptic 21 September 2022 20: 00
        0
        Quote: Bulgarian_5
        This is how the US and its allies work, but they are crawling drones.

        The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is not interested in the opinions of bloggers, commentators. SUVs, normal commanders, will not be let through until they themselves are thrown off, for a complete blockage of defense. When the Natoukry besiege Sevastopol, only after that, maybe they will begin to draw conclusions. In the meantime, "kings of palace intrigues rule."
    9. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 07: 59
      -1
      And what prevents you from hanging in the air constantly? So they give such an opportunity, you can’t transport a lot by helicopters, tea is not Chinook. And the bridgehead could be slammed, but the command doesn’t want to, and it’s understandable why, it’s cheaper to dispose of shells that are two times older than me, and everything is shot there.
    10. Vladimir Postnikov
      Vladimir Postnikov 20 September 2022 09: 51
      0
      Quote: Flood
      "Guessing" with the participation of intelligence and NATO specialists.

      Yes, such bastards. But, who prevents ours from predicting the moments of the transfer of reinforcements both by helicopters and by watercraft, and, it’s absolutely terrible to say, over pontoon bridges?
      Where are the fixed means of surveillance (optical, radar, infrared)? Where are the airborne surveillance equipment in the form of aircraft, drones, loitering ammunition?
      And now I walk around and do not recognize our Chernomorsk. Where is it all? Where is the private capital? Where is the first mutual credit society? Where, I ask you, is the second mutual credit society? Where is the fellowship of faith? Where are joint-stock companies with mixed capital? Where is it all? Disgrace!

      What a mess it is! It would seem that 80 years have passed, but how little tactics have changed. Until now, we allow the enemy to guess where he should not have any chance. What happened to degrade like this? Yes, nothing special, just a shoemaker began to bake pies, and a pieman began to sew boots. The furniture dealer began to command the military, and the defense journalist. But the military was not forgotten, as a result of which, after the journalist, a military man began to steer the defense industry, and another military man became the General Designer. 80 years ago, for example, D. Ustinov went through the entire war as the People's Commissar for Armaments, according to his education and experience.
      - You can immediately see a person from an earlier time! There are no such people now and soon there won’t be at all!
    11. skeptic
      skeptic 21 September 2022 19: 50
      0
      Quote: Flood
      "Guessing" with the participation of intelligence and NATO specialists.

      It just says that our fighters are sent, occasionally. They do not hang like western ones, so they "guess" the turntables, no problem. A thermobar, for a long time it was possible to plow along with the reeds, but alas ...
  2. Silver99
    Silver99 18 September 2022 16: 24
    +28
    Well, is it difficult to create reconnaissance and sabotage groups of the Russian army? Bring down the same MI-8 MANPADS "needle", destroy command posts of communications, fuel depots ........ That's where the Armed Forces of Ukraine have so many opportunities to use heavy equipment? Where they refuel, where they replenish ammunition, because putting together an offensive strike group is not yet a victory, it must be equipped.
    1. Siberian 66
      Siberian 66 18 September 2022 16: 29
      +3
      Drop one of the constantly hanging ones, then you can apologize
      Yes, do not admit it at all, just send it to the south and that's it. The war will write off everything (and everyone).
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 September 2022 16: 32
      +5
      The Armed Forces of Ukraine have a dense network of country roads. Without air supremacy, supplies are hard to stop.
      The Russian group is supplied through the wide Dnieper. Barges, ferries, pontoon crossings. This is not easy when controlling the coastline of Hymarsami.
      1. spirit
        spirit 18 September 2022 17: 06
        +12
        Well, reconnaissance and sabotage groups

        We have DRGs and special forces, they cover the front like ordinary infantry, this has been said more than once. Therefore, the air defense systems are partially in service and mi 8 fly. "Geniuses" from the General Staff, as usual, hammer nails with a microscope hi
      2. poquello
        poquello 18 September 2022 17: 36
        -6
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The Russian group is supplied through the wide Dnieper. Barges, ferries, pontoon crossings. This is not easy when controlling the coastline of Hymarsami.

        complete nonsense, you need to go to Hotdog (Vladlen Tatarsky) - you will perform for a couple, khimars are not red-poly
      3. Bulgarian_5
        Bulgarian_5 18 September 2022 21: 45
        +3
        You know the range of the Hymars, right? Draw on the map where this radius approximately works and let 20 UAVs ROUND THE CLOCK until the Haimar children are detected.

        Aviation / OTRK / KR continues to work
      4. ZAV69
        ZAV69 18 September 2022 22: 42
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        This is not easy when controlling the coastline of Hymarsami.

        That's just how they control it. The beech of his missiles shoots down perfectly. In each daily report, there are 15-20 shot down missiles from Hymars.
      5. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 25
        +1
        Alexey, I liked your last avatar more. So, about country roads, unlike you, I was in Kherson, well, God bless him, and rode in the Kherson region. This is a fierce full speed ahead, it was the case in Ukraine, when our Crimea was included there and I thought that there were bad roads in Crimea. No, damn it, the Ukrainian authorities somehow dealt with them in the sense that politicians and oligarchs came to Sabantuy The road, made under Yanukovych, has only now begun to sag. And in the Kherson region, even a hard-surfaced road is a direction, even our Pajero was running on potholes. I traveled more quietly through the mountains.
        Country roads are already broken by tractors, trucks, combines, well, a column of Urals will pass there, what will be left of the road? This is a problem for our troops too.
    3. kulemin0025gmail.com
      kulemin0025gmail.com 18 September 2022 17: 15
      +1
      And who told you that Russian RDGs do not exist? winked
  3. Boycott
    Boycott 18 September 2022 16: 25
    +28
    Why are they still alive? There is no population there, expanse for bombers. TOS, again, can be irrevocably applied. Punish, in short, punishers.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 18 September 2022 16: 36
      +11
      Yes, everything is so simple .... TOSs need to be pulled almost close to them, there is no expanse for bombers - there is air defense. Yes, and they know perfectly well who is flying and where, crawling. Thanks for the intelligence of "non-partners".
      1. Boycott
        Boycott 18 September 2022 17: 33
        +4
        Exactly what is not very difficult. They only have air defense stingers, S300 or Bukov should not be on the bridgehead. TOS-1A - a range of 6 km, TOS - 2 generally say 10. Again, it is quite realistic to knock out artillery in a limited bridgehead, and only then fry it. So I don't understand.
        1. Al manah
          Al manah 18 September 2022 18: 22
          +3
          And in this operation, no one understands anything, even those who are in charge of its implementation.
        2. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 18 September 2022 21: 13
          0
          Well, you don’t understand. But I guess a little. There is a huge problem with logistics, provision. There are not enough forces and equipment to completely destroy the bridgehead.
        3. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 28
          +1
          S-300 does not need to be on the bridgehead, do you know the range of destruction of this complex? If there is such a complex on Cape Lantern, the extreme eastern point of Crimea, it will hit the target over Cape Tarkhankut, this is the extreme western point of Crimea.
          1. Boycott
            Boycott 19 September 2022 13: 49
            0
            I have old modifications of the S300, with a range of less than 100 km. New ones were not mentioned anywhere. So there is nothing impossible for the bombers, they do not need to enter the occupied territory.
            1. Alexander Salenko
              Alexander Salenko 20 September 2022 06: 15
              0
              Do you think that 100 km, so be it, is this not enough? Once again, one hundred kilometers, this is half my peninsula in width, and in length, from south to north, it will be a little more.
              1. Boycott
                Boycott 20 September 2022 09: 55
                0
                I have never been an aviator, an artilleryman, but it seems to me that by coordinating the hunt for their air defense and raids, this can be done. I will leave the development of plans to professional staff officers.
      2. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 18 September 2022 20: 41
        +3
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Yes, everything is so simple .... TOS should be pulled almost close to them, ".
        The Russian army has a Smerch MLRS - its range and power should be enough.
        You just need to apply...
        request
  4. Fisherman
    Fisherman 18 September 2022 16: 25
    -9
    When the water subsides, I'm sure they won't like the next step of our Army!
    1. laws70
      laws70 18 September 2022 16: 58
      +10
      When the water subsides, I'm sure they won't like the next step of our Army!

      Who's stopping you from starting to dislike right now?
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 29
        -1
        What does the enemy like? Or so, they came running to correct the air?
    2. Jonny_Su
      Jonny_Su 18 September 2022 17: 07
      +5
      Whose army are you talking about now? It is strange that our Russian cannot close the bridgehead. After the water drops, it will be much more difficult. I don’t understand why there are not 3-5 ferry crossings across the Dnieper yet, but only one.
  5. paul3390
    paul3390 18 September 2022 16: 27
    +7
    Ukrainian helicopter pilots predict the moments when there are no Russian fighters in the air

    And what - has our air defense in those parts already been canceled? what
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 18 September 2022 17: 13
      +4
      Quote: paul3390
      Ukrainian helicopter pilots predict the moments when there are no Russian fighters in the air

      And what - has our air defense in those parts already been canceled? what

      Very low flying ... Practically - a car or a boat
  6. igovlk
    igovlk 18 September 2022 16: 30
    +9
    I wonder why our reconnaissance planes do not constantly hang over the combat zone, replacing each other and providing intelligence in real time, after which they would instantly strike with precision weapons on the transported Ukrainian units ...
    1. laws70
      laws70 18 September 2022 16: 36
      +2
      I wonder why our reconnaissance aircraft do not constantly hang over the combat zone, replacing each other

      Once upon a time, everyone is busy with exercises
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 18 September 2022 16: 40
      0
      What kind of reconnaissance aircraft? A50? So the very format of this "special operation" suggests the absence of a united front. Strongholds are managed in small groups in the rear, then a breakthrough follows with large forces. And against such groups, the A50 are useless
      1. igovlk
        igovlk 18 September 2022 16: 45
        +12
        Yes, of course, in very small groups they knocked us out of the Kharkov region, so small that they counted up to 30 thousand personnel with military equipment in the breakthrough areas, if only our hanging reconnaissance aircraft spotted them, would it really be a test? And they are not useless against small groups, it is possible to spot both single military equipment and the same Hymars installations.
    3. QuietDon2
      QuietDon2 18 September 2022 16: 53
      -10
      We don't have high-precision weapons!!! NO. Only in the old fashioned way, free-falling bombs for targeted bombing of which must be deeply substituted under the air defense systems of Ukrainians.
      1. kulemin0025gmail.com
        kulemin0025gmail.com 18 September 2022 17: 26
        +2
        Are you talking about? winked Or are we delirious? Or is it your sarcasm?
      2. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 31
        -1
        You may not, but we have. I personally did not see the missiles, but I did observe the launchers for them on the Admiral Grigorovich frigate. Why lie? That's why they gave you a minus, for hysteria.
      3. IvanSviridov
        IvanSviridov 19 September 2022 09: 09
        +2
        Yes, there is. Just high-precision - not very powerful. But very expensive. It is designed to hit a specific range of targets.
    4. igork735
      igork735 18 September 2022 16: 54
      +3
      The conclusion is simple. Either they are not there, or there is no sense in them.
    5. GREG68
      GREG68 18 September 2022 22: 57
      -2
      Yes, because in the VKS their cat cried my friend ...
  7. Mikhail Maslov
    Mikhail Maslov 18 September 2022 16: 33
    +15
    Good time. I ask myself one question and I want to ask you. Can you explain. Where is all our advantage in art and air? So much has been written and shown. Where?
    1. Machito
      Machito 18 September 2022 18: 12
      -3
      Quote: Mikhail Maslov
      Good time. I ask myself one question and I want to ask you. Can you explain. Where is all our advantage in art and air? So much has been written and shown. Where?

      How do you answer in rhyme? ..... Everywhere.
      Just not in the right place.
    2. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 31
      -1
      If it were not for him, what would be on our sun did not think? Idiot question. Minus.
  8. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 18 September 2022 16: 36
    -4
    “APU is concentrating forces on the western bank of the Ingulets”

    ***
    S͟o͟b͟i͟r͟a͟y͟t͟e͟s͟b͟ ͟х͟l͟o͟p͟ts͟sy͟ ͟v͟ ͟k͟u͟ch͟u
    “We are not chasing their army all over Ukraine – we are waiting for them at a specific point, and we destroy them there. And they go, and nothing else can oppose us! That is why we do not destroy the transport infrastructure of Ukraine - the arsenals of Western countries must be regularly delivered to the place of their disposal "...
    (Some of ours)
    ***
    1. stels_07
      stels_07 18 September 2022 16: 53
      +13
      This statement is a contender for the title of "Delirium of the Year"
    2. Caruso
      Caruso 18 September 2022 19: 39
      -3
      So far, everything is being destroyed only in words, but they are actually and very successfully attacking us. Nobody saw a single destroyed Hymers or Western howitzers. Only rusty Soviet infantry fighting vehicles, ZILs and T-64s
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 08: 33
        0
        Though in the eyes, everything is God's dew. Idiot chat makes me write this phrase
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 18 September 2022 16: 38
    +14
    At present, units of the 57th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and paratroopers from the 46th airborne assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are on "our" shore, located in a "fire bag", which is actually shot through.


    But the allies cannot destroy or force the enemy to leave the bridgehead .... (?) Is it really so lacking in FORCES and MEANS ?? Yes, and the Mi-8 is a rather vulnerable target.
  10. know-it-two
    know-it-two 18 September 2022 16: 40
    +5
    Create mobile groups with MANPADS. After all, it seems that not single Mi-8s fly by ... Yes, and there are radars for detecting low-altitude targets in the Russian Federation ..., that is, air defense should work.
  11. Fizik13
    Fizik13 18 September 2022 16: 43
    -2
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine are gathering forces on the western bank of the Ingulets for transfer to the Andreevsky bridgehead, waiting for the river level to drop

    In addition to them, the psheks have long been pulling their forces to the borders of Ukraine.
    But now the GERMANS WANT to wrest their territories from the Psheks.
    How do you like this arrangement?
    I AM FOR. Chop off from the Psheks their territory that STALIN cut them.
    And there the Kaliningrad region will grow with its territories!
  12. chingachguc
    chingachguc 18 September 2022 16: 44
    +2
    I do not understand why this bridgehead is not slammed. Forces are available
    1. Arkady007
      Arkady007 18 September 2022 17: 07
      +2
      It seems that the question about strength is the most important.
    2. IvanSviridov
      IvanSviridov 19 September 2022 09: 11
      +1
      Are there? .............................................. ...........
  13. Leshak
    Leshak 18 September 2022 16: 45
    +6
    And why not gouge this bridgehead while there are supply problems? Or not to calibrate the places of concentration of forces on the other side?
    1. businessv
      businessv 18 September 2022 18: 47
      -2
      Quote: Leshak
      And why not gouge this bridgehead while there are supply problems?
      Asked a similar question, thanks! I think this question is on the tongue of many.
  14. kventinasd
    kventinasd 18 September 2022 16: 45
    +3
    Isn’t it possible to pull the Tornado S MLRS there in order to be out of range of their MLRS and regularly hit the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine trying to cross the Ingulets, thereby forever discourage them from such maneuvers, or do we have these complexes only on a piece of paper?
  15. shikin
    shikin 18 September 2022 16: 47
    +3
    This is where you need to test the "daddy of bombs".
    1. kventinasd
      kventinasd 18 September 2022 16: 50
      +1
      The only question is how to deliver this dad if the enemy has air defense and how many of these dads do we have?
    2. dauria
      dauria 18 September 2022 18: 31
      +2
      This is where you need to test the "daddy of bombs".

      By well-dispersed infantry? You will kill a dozen, the rest will lay their ears for a while. Or did you decide to fight field weeds like that?
      1. shikin
        shikin 19 September 2022 13: 36
        0
        And if there are 20 people per kilometer, then why be afraid? This thing has a damage radius of 300 meters, if that.
  16. K-50
    K-50 18 September 2022 16: 51
    +2
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine are gathering forces on the western bank of the Ingulets for transfer to the Andreevsky bridgehead, waiting for the river level to drop

    Scout where they cluster and bombard them with rockets and artillery. not to be of any help.
  17. gansales
    gansales 18 September 2022 16: 52
    -7
    We will wet the drug addicts ..! The WEST is happy about it, well, well
    Anglo-Saxons .. We will show you everything!
    You will regret this bastard negative
  18. rocket757
    rocket757 18 September 2022 16: 55
    +2
    Well, all together, let's tell our military what they SHOULD DO!!!
    Although, it is high time to understand that any dregs and "good will" are born a little higher, under the Kremlin towers ... some kind. The devil knows how many of them are there, now, main, capital and other ....
  19. Tank destroyerSU-100
    Tank destroyerSU-100 18 September 2022 17: 01
    +4
    And here again, the potivgtk pulls together, and the aviation of the RF Armed Forces gallantly allows this to be done.
  20. azkolt
    azkolt 18 September 2022 17: 01
    +4
    Quote: BoyCat
    I would drop one of the constantly hanging ones, then you can apologize, they say, oh, a mistake came out, they mixed it up with Ukrainian.

    Here they are afraid to hit the infrastructure, and you are talking about NATO aircraft! what
  21. azkolt
    azkolt 18 September 2022 17: 05
    +5
    Quote from Silver99
    Well, is it difficult to create reconnaissance and sabotage groups of the Russian army? Bring down the same MI-8 MANPADS "needle", destroy command posts of communications, fuel depots ........ That's where the Armed Forces of Ukraine have so many opportunities to use heavy equipment? Where they refuel, where they replenish ammunition, because putting together an offensive strike group is not yet a victory, it must be equipped.

    I already wrote here, I just arrived from the Crimea and the taxi driver who drove me to the station said that he had several acquaintances fighting there and one told how they were constantly fired upon by helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and asked where is our air defense? And what kind of helicopters are you talking about throwing help through Ingulets!
    1. poquello
      poquello 18 September 2022 18: 10
      0
      Quote: azkolt
      one told how they are constantly fired upon by helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and asked where is our air defense?

      but didn’t ask for MANPADS? which is more logical, well, if you got it
  22. Arkady007
    Arkady007 18 September 2022 17: 06
    +10
    Strange information. Again, from somewhere, helicopters appeared at the APU, which shot down everyone.
    Why not use kamikaze drones on helicopters at the time of their unloading?
    A strange kind of war.
    That we can't even track helicopters at a distance of 250 - 300 km from the front line? This is an hour of flight for them, plus unloading. Logic doesn't work.
    It seems that our air defense system does not work according to the declared parameters.
    1. Caruso
      Caruso 18 September 2022 19: 41
      +2
      it is not only strange for you, but for the entire Russian society (almost).
  23. QuietDon2
    QuietDon2 18 September 2022 17: 06
    +4
    Again, we know where the enemy is, who calmly accumulates to strike, and we can’t do anything. Without modern air-to-ground missiles, the effectiveness of our aviation is zero point horseradish tenths of a percent. I would now exchange one nuclear submarine for 50 thousand high-precision aircraft weapons! Pronaya SVO will lead to revolution and turmoil, nuclear submarines will then shoot at the Kremlin ???? Why the hell are they needed if there are no elementary things for a traditional war?
    1. KirKerk
      KirKerk 18 September 2022 17: 20
      +3
      It seems that the General Staff is either stupidly sabotaging the decrees of our Pu, or he himself is stirring up something, maybe begging for negotiations. One thing I don’t understand is why additional forces from other regions are not being transferred, or they are afraid of something, and declaring mobilization is the discontent of the people. And the rating is already at the level of the bunker .... damn it, a lot of things are not clear. I am glad at least that drones like the troops were satiated, a lot of vidos began to appear from them.
      1. QuietDon2
        QuietDon2 18 September 2022 17: 55
        +6
        Drones in the army are entirely the merit of the Russian people who manage to donate to the war from their penny income.
      2. Caruso
        Caruso 18 September 2022 19: 45
        -3
        The Iraqi version is one to one - they merge Pu-that's the whole secret. Change is visible to the naked eye, who does not understand?
      3. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 19 September 2022 21: 31
        +2
        "It seems that the General Staff is either sabotaging" ///
        ----
        It seems that the generals are in shock after the failure in
        Kharkov region. And they fell into a stupor.
        They act by inertia and are not able to make quick decisions.
        This is not sabotage, and not treason, but rather, incompetence.
        It is necessary to put forward a new command from the initiative
        mid-level officers.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 18 September 2022 17: 21
      0
      Quote: TihiyDon2
      Pronaya NWO will lead to revolution and turmoil,

      What?
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 18 September 2022 22: 55
        0
        There are three letters missing from the great and mighty.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 19 September 2022 10: 19
          +1
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          There are three letters missing from the great and mighty.

          I really didn’t understand the word - pronaya request
    3. Flooding
      Flooding 18 September 2022 17: 30
      -4
      Quote: TihiyDon2
      Why the hell are they needed if there are no elementary things for a traditional war?

      Let's discuss together.
      To save Russian statehood?
      1. QuietDon2
        QuietDon2 18 September 2022 17: 53
        +1
        Did the USSR help the APL to maintain statehood? That is it!
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 18 September 2022 17: 56
          +2
          Quote: TihiyDon2
          Did the USSR help the APL to maintain statehood? That is it!

          Without any meaningful "this is it".
          Betrayal within does not negate threats from outside.
          Now only nuclear trinity deters NATO from a full-scale armed intervention.
  24. fa2998
    fa2998 18 September 2022 17: 10
    +2
    Quote: Fisherman
    When the water subsides, I'm sure they won't like the next step of our Army!

    No matter how they conceived a new "transfer" of troops to another direction. They did something like that that week! hi
  25. certero
    certero 18 September 2022 17: 11
    +2
    Some bullshit is written. What are the breaks in air duty?
    If someone wrote something like this in February, he would be laughed at
  26. Architect
    Architect 18 September 2022 17: 11
    +9
    Armed Forces of Ukraine, located in the "fire bag", which is actually shot through.

    It is interesting if the territory is shot through, then how painlessly Ukrainian helicopters fly there.
    It is very reminiscent of the spring situation with flights to the blocked Azovstal.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 18 September 2022 17: 26
      +1
      Quote: Architect
      It is interesting if the territory is shot through, then how painlessly Ukrainian helicopters fly there.

      Shot through does not mean see through.
  27. Floke
    Floke 18 September 2022 17: 25
    0
    Shahids 129 are not enough there to close the gaps of fighters. As I understand it, the shell does not see, because the turntables fly very low.
  28. Horus
    Horus 18 September 2022 17: 32
    -1
    Is it really impossible to come up with a provocation to bring down the NATO avax? How our Jews shot down, not themselves, they made a provocation. They will be afraid, they will not do anything to us.
  29. Kuziming
    Kuziming 18 September 2022 17: 39
    0
    There are still three days. The water will subside. "We need more guns."
  30. Rage66
    Rage66 18 September 2022 17: 45
    0
    It is not clear what prevents them from hitting? soldier
  31. Boris Sergeev
    Boris Sergeev 18 September 2022 17: 46
    -2
    However, there were reports that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are already 20 km from Kherson.
    1. poquello
      poquello 18 September 2022 18: 01
      -1
      Quote: Boris Sergeev
      However, there were reports that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are already 20 km from Kherson.

      they were in Kherson yesterday, though they didn’t have time to take a picture with the flag
      1. Boris Sergeev
        Boris Sergeev 19 September 2022 05: 13
        -3
        On the Kherson Front, the enemy over the past few days has continued to slowly but surely expand the bridgehead on the southern bank of the Ingulets River.
        According to reports, the enemy managed to take the village of Malaya Seydemenukha. The enemy also retains control over the settlement. Nameless (on the map southeast of Seydemenukha) and further along the line Bezymennoye-Schastlivoe-Kostromka-Dry Stavok. Fighting continues in the Bezymenny area
        1. poquello
          poquello 19 September 2022 18: 26
          -1
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          the enemy managed to take the village of Malaya Seydemenukha

          and three bushes from the north
    2. isv000
      isv000 18 September 2022 22: 21
      -1
      Quote: Boris Sergeev
      However, there were reports that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are already 20 km from Kherson.

      You can run through the central square with a bare foot in the early morning and even stick a yellow flag in a causal place, but this will by no means mean that you will do it again tomorrow ...
  32. sofkar
    sofkar 18 September 2022 17: 52
    +11
    The article is great!
    The bridgehead has existed for at least 2 months (or even 3), and nothing could be done with it even before the massive Hymers, and before the start of the so-called "counteroffensive", and at the start of the "counteroffensive" (now how to cut off the small intestine at the base - here and boiler for the APU), and now when even Ingulets interferes with the APU.
    From Andreevka and Lozovoye at the beginning, only the foundation of the bridgehead expanded to Seideminukha and Belogorka (this is from another VO news from 14:48 today). In depth, there are no words Chkalovo, Stepovoe and Cherry at all. About 10 days ago, I asked whose Karl-Marx, and now it is already the geographical center of the bridgehead.
    And what now, according to the article?:
    brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, located in a "fire bag", which is actually shot through

    And how then does the bridgehead expand both at the base and in depth?
    Attempts to establish a crossing are thwarted by Russian aviation.

    And what about the art that shoots through everything?
    In the meantime, the supply of the bridgehead is carried out by transferring ... on MI-8 helicopters. Ukrainian helicopter pilots predict moments when Russian Su-35S fighters are not in the air.

    that is, aviation also cannot stop anything?
    The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not going to surrender the bridgehead despite the losses both in personnel and in equipment.

    No, well, but would you like it to be like in the Kharkiv region?
    The retention of the Andreevsky bridgehead is presented in Kyiv as a big victory

    But to keep a foothold across the river with its expansion in all directions for 2-3 months is, of course, the defeat of Kyiv!
    The enemy continues to gather forces on the western bank of the Ingulets, preparing to force it as soon as the water level in the river drops.

    They won't wait, will they? I wonder why.
    1. poquello
      poquello 18 September 2022 18: 07
      -4
      Quote: Sofkar
      In depth, there are no words Chkalovo, Stepovoe and Cherry at all

      Kherson yet )))))))))))))))))))))), what map are we looking at?
    2. IvanSviridov
      IvanSviridov 19 September 2022 09: 27
      0
      "But they won't wait, right? I wonder why." (pompously) God will not let!
  33. Terenin
    Terenin 18 September 2022 18: 00
    -1
    What happened that the noise was understood before the project "Heavenly Jerusalem" in five regions of Ukraine? belay
    Well, if armies fight, then they happen - regroupings, pulling together, attacks, counterattacks, defense ...
    We are at war, and the losses are peso-measurable.
  34. businessv
    businessv 18 September 2022 18: 09
    +1
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine are gathering forces on the western bank of the Ingulets for transfer to the Andreevsky bridgehead, waiting for the river level to drop
    God grant the speedy demilitarization of the Andreevsky bridgehead!
    1. Vladimir-TTT
      Vladimir-TTT 18 September 2022 19: 40
      +9
      Quote: businessv
      God grant the speedy demilitarization of the Andreevsky bridgehead!

      God seems to have chosen the other side. I did not "fall for" all these temples-remakes of sawn projects. The same prefers good command, good communications, good weapons.
      1. QuietDon2
        QuietDon2 18 September 2022 19: 50
        -1
        Read the Psalter again if you ever took it into your hands at least once.

        These are on chariots, and these are on horses: but we will call in the name of the Lord our God.


        Psalm 19: 8
  35. azkolt
    azkolt 18 September 2022 19: 17
    0
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: azkolt
    one told how they are constantly fired upon by helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and asked where is our air defense?

    but didn’t ask for MANPADS? which is more logical, well, if you got it

    As they say, how much I bought, then I sell. They can fire without entering the zone, but you never know there are nuances.
  36. alexleony
    alexleony 18 September 2022 21: 24
    +2
    By all logic, they need to be thrown into the river and the bridgehead eliminated. Defense over a natural barrier is easier. But this is not being done. This means that there is not enough strength and means.
  37. isv000
    isv000 18 September 2022 22: 17
    -1
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine are gathering forces on the western bank of the Ingulets for transfer to the Andreevsky bridgehead, waiting for the river level to drop

    It is necessary to give the opportunity to cross, break another dam, and then drown these vuks like pissing kittens!
  38. Bumblebee
    Bumblebee 18 September 2022 22: 21
    -2
    Of course, I'm not a military expert. Sometimes I wonder why they don't use volume-detonating ammunition? Or are they not?
  39. Anton Limonov
    Anton Limonov 18 September 2022 22: 22
    +1
    Why does everyone take this text at face value? There is no author, no sources, nothing is indicated, if there is such a high awareness, then probably there should be a video from drones, for example?
  40. Sergey Kuzmin
    Sergey Kuzmin 19 September 2022 05: 06
    -2
    The enemy continues to gather forces on the western bank of the Ingulets, preparing to force it as soon as the water level in the river drops. In the meantime, the bridgehead is being supplied by the transfer of small groups and crews of the Stugna-P anti-tank systems on MI-8 helicopters. Ukrainian helicopter pilots predict the moments when Russian Su-35S fighters are not in the air and transfer reinforcements. The Armed Forces of Ukraine receive data on the presence of Russian aviation in the air from American and NATO intelligence, AWACS and Rivet Joint aircraft of the US Air Force are constantly hanging in the air, me each other.
    Why don't the air conditioners in these Shanat planes break down and, as a result, render these enemy spy planes unusable?
  41. chingachguc
    chingachguc 19 September 2022 09: 05
    0
    I read that paratroopers have been fighting without a shift for seven months on the Kherson front. It becomes scary. We don't even have operational reserves, let alone strategic ones. Someone to change. If the Ukrainians pierce the front, how to cut off the breakthrough?
    1. IvanSviridov
      IvanSviridov 19 September 2022 09: 32
      +1
      Everything will be great in the end! Now criminals will be recruited by zones who are imprisoned under serious and especially serious articles, without any legal basis they will be released from places of detention, armed, grouped into organized groups and taken out of Russia. Here they are, I think, will fight. What can go wrong in this scheme?
  42. valentine light
    valentine light 19 September 2022 10: 11
    0
    they will solve the issue with helicopters, I think it’s easy to organize watch in the air.

    Intrigue - why is it not worked out in terms of concentration or is it just not covered here?
  43. runway-1
    runway-1 19 September 2022 11: 43
    -1
    The article and comments to it actually show that the situation in the Kherson direction is ambiguous for us...
  44. Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev
    Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev 19 September 2022 14: 14
    -2
    Somewhere there was a couple of Tu-95s flying, probably with bombs. It's time to mix the entire Bandera foothold on Ingulets with the ground. Let the Bandera people not fuss in vain. The shells have disappeared. One Shell would have put things in order there at the crossing over the Ingulets.