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Soldiers of Failure or who turned the "BARS" into "Barsikov"?

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Soldiers of Failure or who turned the "BARS" into "Barsikov"?

Today we will talk about "Barsiks", as the reservists of the BARS Directorate (Combat Army Reserve Special) are called somewhat familiarly by the regular military. But where the fighting is going on now, in many places these people are also called "Barses", with a decent amount of respect. At least my friends from Luhansk said that in many places Barca behaved more than worthy.


Therefore, I simply consider it necessary to talk about these people and the problems they face.

Yes, all the information that will be presented here is taken from personal communication with representatives of Bars and IS NOT information discrediting the Russian army, because despite the sonorous name of the "army reserve", Barca legally have nothing to do with the Russian army.

In principle, the shell of the system can be viewed here.

But first, let's talk about what this beautiful site does not have. And there is no more detailed information, on which a lot often depends, including normal human life. On the participation of system reservists in the NWO.

Quite a lot has been said about the fact that there is a contract between Bars and the Ministry of Defense, but this contract, with all its components, is still a contract. And the Ministry of Defense acts as a guarantor that the rights of the reservists will be respected.

So-so, of course, a guarantee for our times, but still better than perfect "nothing". But we will just talk about this “nothing”, because the reservists of the BARS system entered into some contracts and participate in the NWO. It is a fact.

But no less unpleasant fact is that Barca are the most disenfranchised members of the SVO, no matter how you look at it.

Let's start by looking at the form of the Contract, which concludes in ONE copy with a volunteer a certain Department. In general, this is a very legally competent document. According to him, it is not at all clear with whom the contract is concluded. There is no mention of the Ministry of Defense, and the abbreviation "BARS" does not sound. Just some kind of Administration that manages people from the reserve system, inviting them to voluntarily participate in the NWO.

I note that I deeply respect these people, who quite confidently introduced themselves into the army reserve and were ready to fulfill all the requirements for reservists in terms of training, fees and other things for a completely symbolic 1900 rubles a month. This can be said right away, this is not a race for profit, this is normal real, not couch, patriotism.

A lot has already been written about how they deceived those who wanted to become a reserve in the military registration and enlistment offices. Moreover, directly by the participants themselves. But there are few complaints about the employees of the military registration and enlistment offices, because they themselves really don’t know anything and work according to a memorized training manual, like robots in a bank that offer loans. So really, none of the "Bars" holds a grudge against the military commissariat.

A lot of people "jump off" the reserve after the first "exit", faced with complete indifference and spitting in their direction. Again, there are a lot of stories on the Internet, and their essence is also clear: the army doesn’t understand who you don’t really need to mess with, the reservist is really just an extra headache and load, with which it’s completely unclear what to do.

Hence, there are a lot of stories on the topic “spent three days, then broke the contract.” But that was last year. Today, the alignment is completely different and the reserve is not scattered. And of course, we are no longer talking about 1900-2600 rubles a month, the amounts are announced completely different.

The whole question is who pays, to whom, and, most importantly, for what.

So contract.



If you carefully read the clauses of this agreement, then you do not need to have a legal education to understand the following: the Bars signing the contract has nothing to do with the Ministry of Defense, but concludes an agreement with a certain Department, behind which even Redut- 18" with an authorized capital of 10 rubles.

For those who do not want to spoil their eyes, I will selectively voice the most interesting.

Clauses of the contract - this is called "water". No specifics. Everything is very vague. But the main thing - no social guarantees. With regards to financial payments, we are talking only about some kind of “material assistance”, which is paid in the amount of 205 rubles for each month spent in the NWO. If non-combat participation/waiting, the amount is adjusted.

It is necessary to explain the difference between wages / monetary allowance and material assistance?

Particularly interesting (and it will become clear below why) is clause 4.1.3, according to which, in the event of the death or injury of a volunteer, lump-sum payments are made to him or his family members in accordance with Decree of the President of the Russian Federation No. 98 of 5.03.2022/98/XNUMX. This is, to put it mildly, a scam. Decree No. XNUMX clearly outlines who can count on lump sum payments.

“... in the event of the death (death) of military personnel, persons serving in the troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation and having a special police rank, who took part in a special military operation in the territories of the Donetsk People's Republic, the Lugansk People's Republic and Ukraine ... or the death of these military personnel and persons Until the expiration of one year from the date of their dismissal from military service (service), which occurred as a result of injury (wounds, injuries, contusions) or diseases received by them in the performance of military service (service), members of their families are paid a lump sum payment of 5 million rubles. rubles in equal shares

I translate: "Volunteers" according to the text of the contract, taken either from the street or recruited in the BARS system, they are not military personnel. They are not members of the National Guard. They are not police officers. These are just people who realize the opportunity given to them to participate in the NWO. Accordingly, Decree No. 98 has nothing to do with them. This means that they can only rely on the good faith of those with whom they have entered into a contract. Basically, I will reveal the “secret”, these are various funds.

Already on the Internet, lawyers are now considering a lot of requests regarding the execution of these contracts, but the statistics are not yet in favor of filing lawsuits.

Of course, if during the course of hostilities such a volunteer is wounded, then he will end up in a military hospital. Thank God they don't deny it. But further, the issues of compensation for injuries and injuries, rehabilitation, treatment, benefits and benefits - this is not an open question, but all this luxury is not for such volunteers for the reasons listed above.

It's just that people don't know about it. They trust those with whom they sign contracts (I will not comment on the human qualities of our recruiters), and thus they themselves cause problems on their heads in the truest sense of the word.

Here the main problem in our country is total legal illiteracy, due to which it becomes possible to sign such “contracts”. It is very difficult for me to understand and evaluate what people are guided by by signing such "documents", but the Internet is full of information about the consequences of such actions.

Unfortunately, our people are too gullible when it comes to patriotism. Is it bad? For the people - yes, for the state - no. The state, let's say, saves a lot on volunteers - Bars. And if you consider that the system operates in regions somewhat distant from Moscow ...

By the way, about Moscow. Literally a couple of words, more precisely, two pages of a document that is approximately similar to the "contract" concluded with volunteers.



This, as you understand, is Moscow. This is a normal contract, in which everything is written, and even pluses directly from the mayor of Moscow. Weighty, right? Moreover, this is not even a contract, but a questionnaire, according to which the candidate confirms his consent to participate in the SVO on such conditions. And, I must say, the conditions are quite human. Everything is accessible and understandable.

It is clear that Moscow is not Russia at all, and the farther from the capital, the more difficult it becomes. But still not quite the same.

In general, история… as always. In principle, there is nothing new, everything is implemented in this way with us. But there is a very peculiar situation here: supposedly on behalf of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, people are recruited (not to say - recruited) who will participate in hostilities as ...

But to the question "like who?" or "as who?" no answer yet. In general, starting to delve into the topic, I was sure that BARS is a project of the Ministry of Defense. But the further, the more I realized that the MO, as it were, was standing on the sidelines and looking. And the "volunteers" are not at all the military personnel of the RF Ministry of Defense, who were taken on a short-term contract. And the Federal Law "On military duty and military service" has nothing to do with them.

Plus, legal subtlety: a contract in one copy, which is stored somewhere “in the personal file of the employer” - this is exactly the topic in which smart people do not recommend signing empty forms and remembering this when the “fried rooster pecks”.

Barsov is really not only sorry, it's a shame for these people. They went to the reserve not for the pennies that they were promised. After talking, I realized that there is just the same patriotism and the desire to be the defender of the country, not in words, but in deeds. That is, what is lacking today in full.

In fact, the BRAS program, which began in the Southern Military District and continued in the Central, was quite good as planned. To gather and keep ready precisely those people who are ready to sacrifice their time in order to be useful to the security of the country.

But why did they screw everything up again? The ugly words “As usual in Russia” are already suggesting, because people who are ready to serve the country have been made the most disenfranchised members of the NWO.

Moreover, in the first contract, with the federal authorities, not only “carrots” are indicated, but also quite normal “sticks”, such as the fact that in the event of a break in contractual relations, the reservist is obliged to reimburse the state for all the funds spent on him. And I don’t think it’s necessary to tell how our state knows how to extort debts from citizens.




For 10-12% of the monthly salary of a soldier, the Ministry of Defense receives for its undivided use an additional small army of reservists, which can be used in any way: dispersal of rallies and protests, participation in the SVO, and so on. And the reservist has no chance to refuse.

But these are not just people who are ready to run at the training camp for two thousand rubles a month. These people also agreed on all the nuances at their workplaces, since not every employer agrees to replace a patriotic employee 3 days a month and 1 month a year.

I don't respond to anyone. In the reserve are people who have taken place and adults who are able to decide everything for themselves. And patriotic. It just becomes really insulting for these people who are being used in this way, taking advantage of their patriotism.

The idea with Bars was not bad. But the fact that Barsov was turned into Barsikov is definitely not the fault of the reservists. They were simply turned into soldiers of failure. Therefore, it is quite possible that the army reserve system, created in 2018, is unlikely to survive to the next one.

Necessary postscript. While the article was being prepared for publication, mobilization broke out. In this regard, I would like to say only one thing: we very much hope that the situation will change for the better.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 23 September 2022 05: 21
    +12
    In Buryatia, dolboidiotiya on the march, a colleague on the draft on the agenda, despite the fact that: he did not serve urgently, he does not have a VUS and, of course, there is no database experience. Well, it doesn’t fall under the call for an urgent call already.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 23 September 2022 10: 20
      +10
      All figured out, goes home a day later.
      1. frog
        frog 23 September 2022 10: 46
        -1
        Lucky. But in general, it's not dolboidiotiya, it's real. And what is dull - there is no other, he is still alone.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 23 September 2022 10: 49
          +2
          Quote: frog
          Lucky.

          It is possible, but this is the second personally known case of hanging up when receiving a subpoena. It's just that the first comrade was immediately sent home upon presentation of the ticket.
          1. frog
            frog 23 September 2022 10: 58
            -1
            And there is such a thing. Quite to yourself. In the same way as it is, unfortunately, the opposite is also true. Further, everything depends on the decency of the persons concerned.
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 23 September 2022 11: 25
      +3
      he didn’t serve urgently, he doesn’t have a VUS, and of course there is no database experience. Well, it doesn’t fall under the call for an urgent call already.


      So what? That is, in your opinion, is it normal that the one who sagged and does not get into the war?

      What they are trying to take with combat experience and those who have served is understandable, but if they are not enough, then what to do now? Give up?

      In the first wave, 300 fighters under 000 are recruited, what do you think there are so many people with combat experience in the country? Those who are either already there, or they are already over 35.

      At the front, not only attack aircraft are needed, there are rights - he can drive a car, which means he can be a driver, there are no rights - you can cook porridge in the kitchen, the same thing is very necessary, without which victory cannot be seen.

      And then sissies were really different, there were hulks with sour faces for 30 years old and whining, he didn’t go to the army, but here they are calling for war, this is clearly a mistake, let Kolka’s neighbor die for him, who has already given several years of his life to serve in Chechnya or somewhere else, I didn’t make a career or have children because of this. Is that fair to you?
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 23 September 2022 11: 31
        +16
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        So what? That is, in your opinion, is it normal that the one who sagged and does not get into the war?

        You "sloped" and did not go through the "fizuha", do not confuse.
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        What they are trying to take with combat experience and those who have served is understandable, but if they are not enough, then what to do now? Give up?
        If you personally do not understand my feelings, then I will explain: having mobilized my colleague, the military commissar would not give a damn about the words of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the words of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. Do you understand what I mean?
        How they spat at the beginning of the NWO on the same words, and possibly the order, the chiefs who sent conscripts to the outskirts!
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 23 September 2022 12: 22
          -9
          You "sloped" and did not go through the "fizuha", do not confuse.


          We know such "weak comrades" with medical certificates purchased through the same military registration and enlistment office. Then don't tell these fables.

          If you personally do not understand my feelings, then I will explain: having mobilized my colleague, the military commissar would not give a damn about the words of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the words of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. Do you understand what I mean?
          How they spat at the beginning of the NWO on the same words, and possibly the order, the chiefs who sent conscripts to the outskirts!


          This did not give a damn about the order, this is an emergency, there are simply no more people !!! And no one said that they would recruit ONLY with combat experience, because this is not possible, since whoever has it is either already in the army or they are already over 40.

          The priority will be clear, but this in no way excludes the fulfillment of the honorary duty of defending the Motherland and for your colleague, they will not send him to intelligence, but he would be useful in some kind of rear position, the army is full of different rear positions, and now because for the fact that he refused in the army, there will be -1 fighter somewhere, and someone will have to be removed from another direction in order to somehow plug this vacancy or stretch the load on the rest, and they are already at the limit.

          Your colleague is 500, and there is nothing to shield here.

          Mommy's sons were different, look at them at the poor things, he is not supposed to go to the front, he didn’t serve urgently, but it’s too late for him, he’s already a lot of years old, but he doesn’t want to climb out from under his mother’s skirt.

          Those who were 18-19 years old fought in Chechnya and they had practically no experience, like most officers. All received in the course of hostilities.

          I served in Chechnya for 9 years, they showed me how to use a tourniquet only at the end of the 3rd contract, and with all the rest of the preparation it was no better - here's the reality.

          And now they are whining, you can’t go round with faces, but all the same, the sick, their health does not allow them to serve, and they turn out to be unprepared. Tfu.
          1. begemot20091
            begemot20091 23 September 2022 14: 09
            +6
            With both hands and feet FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take a look - the best show "nuka all together" - faces - in three days you can’t .. lick. And in the hall no less. And the dumbass buffoons and kvn-shchiki ... Enough to warm the belly in Socha. It's time to serve for the good of the Motherland: wash clothes, drag ducks in the hospital as an orderly. Smell what freedom smells like. Yes, and the war has its smells.
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          3. Banner55
            Banner55 23 September 2022 17: 59
            +8
            Ratmir, where are you now?
            1. Popov Artyom
              Popov Artyom 24 September 2022 01: 29
              -1
              at a combat post at a table with a computer
            2. Ratmir_Ryazan
              Ratmir_Ryazan 25 September 2022 13: 18
              +2
              Ratmir, where are you now?


              I'm at home.
          4. would
            would 23 September 2022 18: 15
            +5
            We know such "weak comrades" with medical certificates purchased through the same military registration and enlistment office. Then don't tell these fables.


            You “know” so much that you don’t know that the military registration and enlistment office does not issue any medical certificates and, accordingly, they cannot be bought there.
            1. Ratmir_Ryazan
              Ratmir_Ryazan 25 September 2022 13: 25
              +5
              You “know” so much that you don’t know that the military registration and enlistment office does not issue any medical certificates and, accordingly, they cannot be bought there.


              Here you are probably more experienced, you know exactly where a military ID is sold, and where you can buy a certificate. But something tells me that they work there at the same time as a military commissar and those who make medical certificates are left.

              I received my military ID and served, and then another 9 years under the contract, at the age of 33 I just returned from the army, for 10 years I have been trying to start a family and somehow get settled in this life.

              And now I’m most likely to be mobilized at 40 and I’ll go, it just annoys me wildly that a bunch of those who have dropped out of the army are now rejoicing at this fact and using it as a way to get away from mobilization already.
              1. NAF-NAF
                NAF-NAF 25 September 2022 16: 20
                +2
                Here's a big respect and respect to you. And God forbid that the family developed and everything was fine! And unlike sofa balabols, in old age you will have the feeling that you are not ashamed of the years you have lived.
              2. would
                would 25 September 2022 18: 00
                +3
                Well, yes, more experienced, since he is familiar with military accounting and VVK. The military commissar also has nothing to do with the left medical certificates.

                Today, VVK looks like this: In the military registration and enlistment office itself, no one makes any inquiries and does not even make diagnoses, they have no right. Of course, such cases are known, but the courts always make an appropriate decision.

                At the VVK, a medical examination of the conscript is carried out on the basis of the available certificates. Once again - available. Based on the results of their consideration, the VVK doctor sends the conscript for examination to a civilian medical institution. If it confirms the diagnosis, then the VVK cannot do anything according to the law.

                I personally know such examples with scoliosis, for understanding - not so long ago the requirements for scoliosis were tightened and now the degree of curvature is not high enough, but "functional impairment" is also required. Naturally, the military enlistment offices do not see these violations with all their might and do not care that the conscript is crooked and oblique. In two cases, after confirmation from civilian institutions, the military registration and enlistment offices retreated, in one the military registration and enlistment office was turned into a laughingstock in court. All three conscripts received category B - limited fit, that is, not subject to conscription in peacetime.

                Therefore, if a certificate is actually bought, then it must be bought in two medical institutions, not in the military registration and enlistment office. And in large cities, the second institution may not be in one copy and not with one doctor. And in big cities, if the military registration and enlistment office still rests, then as a result, in three institutions.

                Military commissariats and military commissariats are corrupted in a completely different way. First of all, people pay for not being drafted, that is, a recruit can have at least category A, but will not fall under the draft. He simply will not be called up and he will simply come to his EMNIP for 28 years and pick up the military. And the most important thing here is that, unlike category B, this does not affect employment in law enforcement agencies. And yes, I know of examples when the "sons" first fell away from the army like that, and then transferred to law enforcement agencies to dad.

                I tried to write this as short as possible.
                1. frog
                  frog 26 September 2022 14: 00
                  +1
                  Great, bravo!!! Short and to the point.
          5. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 23 September 2022 19: 46
            -1
            Strange. For which they gave you minuses. I fully support.
          6. Bubuzon
            Bubuzon 23 September 2022 23: 07
            +3
            My generation in Afghanistan fought for the same 18-19 years, the mowers didn’t particularly serve an urgent one.
          7. 1939_1940
            1939_1940 24 September 2022 02: 19
            +5
            That is, there are not enough people, which means that a simple hard worker who, at 65, retires at fifteen thousand, should go to war? But what about the muzzle who will retire at forty? Ministry of Internal Affairs, Ministry of Emergency Situations, FSO, FMS, Federal Penitentiary Service, TFR, prosecutor's office .. There are several million of them .. They do not want to repay their debt to the Motherland? Where is the rest of the Army? In kitchen outfits? We have divorced generals, regiments can be formed .. Moreover, to whom the summons are now being handed the debt to the Motherland has already been paid .. Ugh ..
            1. Sarboz
              Sarboz 25 September 2022 02: 54
              +1
              Quote: 1939_1940
              We have divorced generals, regiments can be formed ..

              In principle, we don’t care how many generals you have divorced in Ukraine and how many Nazi regiments you could form from them. Your TsIPSO, if you drive it entirely to the front, maybe it would be more fun there. Gender diversity among the Natsiks from Azov is in trend.
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            2. Ratmir_Ryazan
              Ratmir_Ryazan 25 September 2022 13: 29
              +3
              That is, there are not enough people, which means that a simple hard worker who, at 65, retires at fifteen thousand, should go to war?


              Yes, that's exactly what mobilization is for.

              But what about the muzzle who will retire at forty? Ministry of Internal Affairs, Ministry of Emergency Situations, FSO, FMS, FSIN, TFR, prosecutor's office .. There are several million of them ..
              They do not want to give back to the Motherland?


              They always pay back their debt to the Motherland. These people serve, and even during the period of mobilization, someone has to fight crime.

              Where is the rest of the Army?


              At the front, he has been fighting for 7 months, suffering losses, where the enemy has a multiple advantage in manpower.
              1. 1939_1940
                1939_1940 25 September 2022 18: 25
                -4
                Well, firstly, everyone who is being called up has already paid their debt to the Motherland .. Secondly, five million security officials, this is really too much, and even Mr. Kadyrov believes that half of them can be safely sent to the front .. And thirdly, the losses are irretrievable, less than six thousand , ninety percent of the wounded in the ranks .. What are the numbers, five thousand and five million .. And the most paradoxical in this situation is that none of the security forces is in a hurry to show their patriotism .. I'm sure our propagandists trumpeted it with pleasure .. Imagine how it sounds , ten employees of the UGIBDD of Moscow in the Central Administrative District wrote applications to send them as privates to the NVO zone .. Or guys from the Federal Penitentiary Service in Mordovia, ready to become tankers .. And customs officers from Vladik, eagles, marines .. You don’t even need half a quarter will be enough .. Such eagles will easily reach Warsaw ..
          8. NAF-NAF
            NAF-NAF 25 September 2022 16: 11
            +2
            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
            I didn’t go to the army, but here they are called to war, this is clearly a mistake, let Kolya’s neighbor die for him, who has already given several years of his life to the service

            Here, too, I notice such "justice": some - and so they gave their years to the Motherland (while non-serving people earned normal money in civilian life), and now again to serve us - after all, non-serving ones have no experience!
            And about "they didn't pass the physical examination"... I know a Man with real problems with his legs (there were operations), but - he achieved his goal, finished his studies, served (ran through the mountains), now the colonel is already. As they say: who wants - he is looking for an opportunity, and who does not want - he is looking for a reason. (Fiery greetings to all happy owners of flat feet!)
      2. Living7111972
        Living7111972 23 September 2022 22: 50
        +1
        Freaks who have not served and are not motivated are not taken, so that later they will not be shot in front of the ranks, like deserters and traitors. We have become weak, we are afraid of blood. We save nerves and cartridges. Here I am a platoon commander, what for me is fleshy (persons are morally lowered), I'm better off with an evil dystrophan. He will save me. and I him. So soul and soul.
    3. AlexSmi1970
      AlexSmi1970 23 September 2022 13: 26
      +9
      And here it turns out interesting. Those who have not served will never serve, and those who have trumpeted their 2-25 years again on a belt.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 23 September 2022 17: 15
        +1
        Quote: AlexSmi1970
        And here it turns out interesting. Those who have not served will never serve, and those who have trumpeted their 2-25 years again on a belt.
        Just think, after two weeks of the unit allocated for putting together people who didn’t even go through training (2 months) and didn’t take the Oath are really needed.
        No, if the mobilization goes further, then of course they will call up such people, and people like me (50 years old, asthma and lack of HUS), but I would not want to. And there will be an agenda, so I will go.
  2. fiberboard
    fiberboard 23 September 2022 05: 30
    +28
    Yeah, author, guarantees. I served in the Border Department, I had all the documents and stuff. And what's the point? He got the disease during the period of military service and was thrown in all respects. When I said that I, as a soldier, was entitled to 18m2 per family member, they just laughed. When he began to refer to the decree of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev, they said: "Medvedev promised, so let him give it." We have a system of military justice and law that completely ignores the protection of military personnel. You won't win any court martial.
    1. Loh
      Loh 24 September 2022 16: 41
      0
      Quote: fiberboard
      "Medvedev promised, so let him give."

      After Afghanistan, it was the same, saying "I didn't send you," but in the garrison court the military prosecutor immediately supported me and everything was fine.
  3. NDR-791
    NDR-791 23 September 2022 05: 51
    0
    despite the sonorous name of the "army reserve", "Barca" legally have nothing to do with the Russian army.

    If so, then why is the advertisement of this reserve hanging on every military registration and enlistment office? And not on the wall of the district administration, for example. What can we say about the presence of a certain "department" signing the contract if it is clear to the whole country that this is the Defense Ministry in its purest form. Well, saving is saving, the generals also need denyuzhka.
    1. carpenter
      carpenter 23 September 2022 06: 13
      -1
      Quote: NDR-791
      What can we say about the presence of a certain "department" signing the contract if it is clear to the whole country that this is the Defense Ministry in its purest form.

      A private company is being created so that the Moscow Region does not have a headache, the embassies do the same when issuing visas - "expensive and angry."
    2. Li17
      Li17 23 September 2022 07: 09
      +2
      Quote: NDR-791
      If so, then why is the advertisement of this reserve hanging on every military registration and enlistment office? And not on the wall of the district administration, for example.

      hang in our area
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 23 September 2022 10: 56
      +6
      Quote: NDR-791
      What can we say about the presence of a certain "department" signing the contract if it is clear to the whole country that this is the Defense Ministry in its purest form.

      Pfff ... our MO, by law, does not have the right to use combat units for commercial activities. However, for many years there has been a 224th Flight Detachment in the VTA, which, as it were, exists, but, as it were, does not exist.
    4. Popov Artyom
      Popov Artyom 24 September 2022 01: 34
      0
      As I understand it, it was given at the mercy of someone who promised the implementation of plans. Well, like landsknechts, whose captain comes to the sovereign and says "I will provide you with 400 swords, for each I want 2 thalers a year." And for the sovereign it is cheaper and easier than looking for and hiring these 400 swords himself. And the captain pays his landsknechts 1,5 thalers a year. The rest is his margin
  4. alexey sidykin
    alexey sidykin 23 September 2022 06: 14
    -4
    Firstly, the author does not indicate what year this form is, the creation of the reserve began from the 15th year. For example, last year Russia did not conduct any hostilities ... and given that the contracts were concluded not with the Ministry of Defense, but with the Military Forces to which the signatory of the contract was assigned ... and an ordinary labor contract comes out. Participation in training camps, involvement in case of emergency. But in principle, for the author, this is the norm, such are the scribbles-understatements.
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  6. Li17
    Li17 23 September 2022 07: 08
    +12
    Nothing new. Rations, clothes, travel allowances ... well, and further combat ... and all through the courts! And as usual, everything is with us and we will tell you ... well, then, as I said! And this organization, in my opinion, was created by dodgers who are connected with the military registration and enlistment offices.
  7. Essex62
    Essex62 23 September 2022 07: 12
    +27
    Disgusting tricks of rotten capitalism. Military formations, it should be only the state and no one or anything else. The private army of the People, in fact, can not be. Today there are patriots in the war with the West, tomorrow in the war for the hand of the oligarch. Only the state today is the oligarchs. Whatever sphere of life you touch, everywhere this disgusting, horned mug sticks out and itches - loot, loot, loot. Ugh! am
  8. lambert
    lambert 23 September 2022 07: 33
    -15
    The fifth article from the cycle, everything is gone, the plaster is removed, the client leaves. One comparison of a contract, though not in an understandable form, and equating an incomprehensible sheet of conversation with a contract already speaks volumes, and the first person does not understand anything. And plays on emotions. The next question is that the author does not understand what he is writing about the reserve. Upon arrival at the unit, the personnel is entered into the lists of the military unit and placed on all types of support. Therefore, the author's message that LARs are not military personnel is absolutely wrong. For the author, like many Russian filmmakers, it is advisable to first go to the military registration and enlistment office and consult in the appropriate department (not a regime one) about the basics of organizing military service. And thirdly, the army does not have an internal function, so the message about the dispersal of rallies and protests by military units is generally drawn from the ceiling.
    And fourth, although this should be the first - while you are a volunteer and reservists, this is one thing, and upon arrival at the unit you sign a contract and all speculation immediately disappears. Or you don’t conclude - then a kick in the ass from the unit. Civilians among the military have nothing to do.
  9. Edward Vashchenko
    Edward Vashchenko 23 September 2022 07: 58
    +6
    “Unfortunately, our people are too gullible when it comes to patriotism. Is it bad? For the people - yes, for the state - no.

    A strange statement of the question: who is the state? Or what? Is this Louis or Nicholas 2?
    There is no state as an eternal substance, neither in Russia, nor anywhere else, the Constitution clearly states, Article 3.1 .:
    "The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people."

    There is no state there that is different from a multinational people, if in the minds of people there is “primitive thinking” (not offensive, but a scientific definition), that there is a certain “state”, but there are “cogs” - we, this is a big problem and not only them. And this is used by scoundrels who identify themselves with the state, even on such Sacred issues.
    1. El Barto
      El Barto 23 September 2022 10: 16
      -6
      The current war has an anti-imperialist, anti-colonial character. Today, it is not the economic and political contradictions between classes that have come to the fore, but the contradictions between the oppressed countries and their oppressors - the countries of the imperialist center.
      In essence, Russia is waging an armed national liberation struggle. And this struggle is supported by society (thus multinational people).
      Against this background, a kind of "social contract" was formed between society and the ruling class.

      However, unfortunately, in the power structures and in the ruling class, people with a post-modern consciousness prevail, living in a world of illusions and narratives, not understanding that:
      - modern society is not an abstract mass of “ants” ready for anything, but public consent is precisely a “contract” that implies obligations for both of its parties.
      - one of these duties is directly talking with the public and taking into account the views of the public on the most important issues with a mandatory and public response to "signals from the field" (especially since we have such experience, at least from the 30-50s of the 20th century ). It is very easy to lose the support of society and it is difficult to say in what form this can happen. The events of a hundred years ago showed that even with a zero level of information technology, total ignorance and dense self-awareness, society will not tolerate betrayal and disregard for its interests.
      - And society is wary of some signals and dangerous symptoms. "Muddy agreements" behind society's back, embezzlement, sloppiness and negligence, outright stupidity. All this can lead to nothing good. In today's situation, the ruling class needs to consolidate and purify its ranks. When they hire idiots and thieves to manage their businesses in civilian life, it threatens them with nothing more than losing some money. In the current situation, this threatens them with the loss of everything if the enemy crushes us all.
      And that the soldiers going to the front in bast shoes, shell-and-cartridge hunger, the intricacies of the supply system, the deception of the people, and so on, have already given certain results.
    2. frog
      frog 23 September 2022 10: 48
      +2
      And this is used by scoundrels who identify themselves with the state, even on such Sacred issues.

      Wonderful. Entirely agree. But .... If the scoundrels mentioned by you, if not everywhere, then in many places - what should the layman think?
      1. Edward Vashchenko
        Edward Vashchenko 23 September 2022 12: 19
        +1
        Dear Dmitry,
        I do not like the word "simple inhabitant", I am closer to the Citizen and the warrior.
        Of course, it's easy to say to a "simple layman", of course, of course, I would recommend becoming a Citizen first of all, to serve first, and then consciously go to the polls ... and study, study, study!
        hi
        1. frog
          frog 23 September 2022 12: 27
          +2
          The words are certainly good and correct. They are only remembered by the very ones whom you remembered when they needed. But this is a lyric, of course))....
          Those who served are quite enough. consciously go to the polls - thank you, delivered. The day, of course, was not made, but the morning is quite wink
          As for training, it is also correct and, even, not bad. And how do many learn? What is being a citizen, what is "military affairs in a real way"?
          1. Edward Vashchenko
            Edward Vashchenko 23 September 2022 12: 41
            0
            The answer is very complex. In a nutshell, you can't answer. Now it is possible only by personal desire, no one else needs it.
            You use the Internet not for learning, but for entertainment...
            1. frog
              frog 23 September 2022 12: 51
              0
              That's what we're talking about. Because the previous years have demonstrated the independence of qualifications (real) from income and other success .... Let's just keep silent about the elections. It is important to remain silent)).
  10. acetophenone
    acetophenone 23 September 2022 08: 49
    +10
    Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
    "The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people."

    They also write on the fence ... you know what. The people are everything. And everyone means no one. The Russian Federation is a state. In a state, power belongs to the ruling class. And not all in a row. Our ruling class is the capitalists. Not workers. Not peasants. Not a layer. This is their power. Their laws. Not yours. And if you think that you rule the country... In short, go ahead, rule while the orderlies don't see.
    1. Yuri Stepanov
      Yuri Stepanov 23 September 2022 11: 23
      +7
      Straight to the apple! Taken straight off the tongue. The bearer of sovereignty is the people ... the one who wrote this probably laughed until he lost consciousness.
    2. El Barto
      El Barto 23 September 2022 11: 54
      -2
      The people are not "no one". The people is a society united by linguistic, cultural, economic and economic ties.
      And yes. People have common interests and needs.
      And yes. The people give power to the ruling class. With their consent (at least the absence of active opposition) to be ruled. For without the people the ruling class is nothing (unless, of course, the working class is the ruling class) and by itself can do nothing.
      Objectively, today the interests of the ruling class coincide with the interests of the people. If Russia loses the fight against colonialism, then the people will fall into a tough dystopia (watch the first 15 minutes of the film "Elysium. Heaven is not on Earth"), and the ruling class will lose everything - not only money, property and power, but quite possibly life. The fate of Libya and Gaddafi hints.
      Therefore, putting things in order in their own ranks and in the ranks of administrative structures is the direct interest of the ruling class, as well as taking into account the interests and opinions of the people so that the people do not turn away from it.
      1. frog
        frog 23 September 2022 12: 29
        0
        Therefore, putting things in order in their own ranks and in the ranks of administrative structures is the direct interest of the ruling class, as well as taking into account the interests and opinions of the people so that the people do not turn away from it.

        Yes, yes, yes ..... I still remember there was a joke about honey, a bear and a hippopotamus ..... No less delivering ...
  11. Mikhail Maslov
    Mikhail Maslov 23 September 2022 09: 10
    -1
    Send the men of these "firms" to the "Wagner" or "Akhmat" units with instructions to "re-educate the rats", women for forced labor until the material elimination of claims from the deceived. And that's it. That's why they are afraid to introduce martial law.
  12. DeGreen
    DeGreen 23 September 2022 09: 10
    -9
    From the first lines of the opus, it is immediately clear who the author is
  13. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 23 September 2022 09: 38
    +7
    These are just people who realize the opportunity provided to them to participate in SVO

    Well, yes, in this scenario, you can always shrug your hands in a picturesque way and say "well, you are YOURSELF." Like, no one drove under the bullets-zhezh. I am not at all surprised by this situation, this is the traditional attitude towards volunteering. In words, honor and respect, in fact .. as my colleague said, "you can't deceive, you can't sell" (c). There will always be a little man in the depths of this system, the essence of whose work is to reduce costs - and this little devil will do his job, regularly sending some of those who forget about legal subtleties and Jesuit texts.

    Like it or not - gentlemen, we live under capital relations. All this "non-material" under capital relations either materializes in benefits and money, or exists exclusively in your head. Someone will always benefit from the extra contents of your head, your noble impulses and aspirations, in the event that you yourself do not benefit from this. I did not come up with this - this is how the world works, alas. Somewhere volunteers will fasten them with shabby saddles - and somewhere uncles build summer cottages and buy beautiful yachts with the funds that were allocated in the bearded year so that these volunteers were not needed (and which were paid from taxes by the same volunteers).

    I sincerely hope that these contracts for a righteous cause will be written righteously, humanly. Because just as a house begins with a hallway, so a righteous deed begins with its decoration.
    1. El Barto
      El Barto 23 September 2022 10: 21
      -4
      It's not about whether someone benefits or not. The main thing is not to the detriment of the cause.
      Do you know how a parasite differs from a predator?
      The parasite lives at the expense of the host, parasitizes on it, but does not bring fatal consequences to the host.
      And the predator kills the prey.
      Since capitalism, then let them parasitize without harming the common cause. If there is harm, then you need to carry out appropriate therapy until the predatory organism has killed you
      1. jdiver
        jdiver 23 September 2022 13: 06
        +6
        the parasite causes fatal damage. especially if the body is teeming with parasites. he is weakened to the limit. then there will be a predator that will in one moment end the torment of this organism, which is too kind to parasites. And it seems to me that the Western predator came to us precisely for this, considering that the parasites inside the body had done their job enough. And until you bring out the parasites, you will not cope with the predator.
  14. Dedok
    Dedok 23 September 2022 10: 12
    +3
    good article overall
    the questions are serious, and if there is a scam, then the consequences are unpredictable
  15. faterdom
    faterdom 23 September 2022 11: 01
    -1
    Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
    there is a certain “state”, and there are “cogs” - we, this is a big problem and not only them. And this is used by scoundrels who identify themselves with the state, even on such Sacred issues.

    By the way...
    The people as a whole realized: we must fight and we must win! There is no other option for us.
    And with this elite at the head, or with another, which will do it more honestly and efficiently - the second question, which is after the first.
    But it is necessary to name problems, names, actions that officials are used to tinkering with.
    To know that God sees. And he will, sooner or later.
    On the first day of mobilization, there are already a lot of questions - the military registration and enlistment offices began to "mow down the plan" despite ... not even what the President and the Minister of Defense said, but the practical benefits of such "activities".
    And now blogger Yura Sumy warns, like the Ministry of Health: wake up, guys, otherwise tomorrow the country will recognize its "heroes", and the authorities will be forced to react. And then someone lied to Shoigu about 25 million trained reserves, and he blurted out in his historical address. But everything is simple: at least you put wounded recovering officers in the military commissariats, a kind of supercommissars with the right to veto. To cut off profanity in the bud, and help recruit those with whom they are ready to fight next to them.
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  16. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 23 September 2022 11: 30
    -1
    The idea with BARS is excellent, it has shortcomings, now they have been identified, they need to be eliminated and continue to form an operational reserve for the army, which can quickly support it, while people are not separated from the country's economy and they continue to work.

    And 1900 a month is of course a laugh, you can pay more.
    1. wladimirjankov
      wladimirjankov 23 September 2022 18: 38
      0
      for which army? After all, ours, consisting of the majority of conscripts, for some reason cannot be fought at all. Our main Army does not fight, it is in reserve on allowances. Contract soldiers and motley consolidated volunteers are fighting. Now the mobilized will fight.
  17. Popenko
    Popenko 23 September 2022 12: 57
    -3
    Joints climb like cockroaches from cracks in a dirty kitchen. It seems that there is no other way in nature. Well, at least they found themselves. Now you need to call exterminators.
  18. Elena111
    Elena111 23 September 2022 13: 52
    +2
    Organize a petition for the BARS. I'm ready to sign. The way the LARs fight, few people fight. How many cases of betrayal of Russian soldiers by high-ranking corrupt generals !!!
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  21. Postcode
    Postcode 23 September 2022 15: 44
    +3
    According to BARS, everything was immediately clear to everyone, another idea that was conceived for the good, but implemented, as always. For the most part, our people are illiterate in legal terms, and those who are literate, most likely, will not go to BARS, everything is fine with them in life.
    And here's a joke: in mid-September, one comrade returned from the second trip from the NWO zone (there was a pause due to the injury), returned and said, well, that's enough, I want to come to my senses a little .... and then the agenda, he is to the military, they say, so and so, I still smell of gunpowder, and in response to him the magic “not e..t” the Motherland calls, it’s just for us, with experience and most needed, he says, let’s at least a couple of months come to his senses, they tell him, no, it's urgent.
    VKs themselves are sitting on pins and needles, according to some information they have personal QPIs, there will be no schedule plan, go there yourself, the position is one rank lower .... Therefore, there will be a lot of nonsense in the field.
  22. wladimirjankov
    wladimirjankov 23 September 2022 18: 22
    +1
    I don’t understand why it is impossible for conscripts who have served six months to participate in hostilities. Why then do we need this army of conscripts? Just to support her, to feed her, to dress her, to train her. And you can't use it for its intended purpose. This is some kind of absurdity and stupidity. If the generals themselves believe that in half a year or a year our conscript soldier will not learn anything and is not ready to defend his homeland, then why was the term of service reduced to a year? If this is enough, then why can't they be used in the NWO. It turns out that we seem to have an army, but in fact it does not. Or is it kept in reserve? And this is more than 1000000 soldiers. And we are announcing mobilization, we are pulling out 300000 men from the economy, many of whom also served only 1 year and have already lost and forgotten their military skills in civilian life. They mean they can fight, but those who have served for six months or more are not. It is clear that you can not send those who served up to three months immediately into battle. But in six months, with proper training, a conscript soldier often knows and can do more than those who have previously served and mobilized because of the reserve. Our leadership is always going from one extreme to another. Then, immediately after the oath, the untrained were sent to Chechnya to fight, and now they decided not to touch the conscripts at all. They burned themselves in milk, now they blow on the water.
    1. d4rkmesa
      d4rkmesa 23 September 2022 19: 49
      +2
      In vain you are outraged. According to reviews, they no longer allow demobilization.
    2. Sergey777
      Sergey777 29 September 2022 11: 05
      0
      Quote: wladimirjankov
      If the generals themselves believe that in half a year or a year our conscript soldier will not learn anything and is not ready to defend his homeland, then why was the term of service reduced to a year? If this is enough, then why can't they be used in the NWO. It turns out that we seem to have an army, but in fact it does not. Or is it kept in reserve? And this is more than 1000000 soldiers. And we are announcing mobilization, pulling 300000 men out of the economy,

      And what is the length of our state borders, I think you know. Yes, and neighboring states are clearly not friends, including China, it is rather a situational ally (as long as it is beneficial for him). Well, as if in the CSTO, not everything is going smoothly. So here even a million will not be enough in the army of conscripts if it blazes notably. In the world, as it were, a redistribution is underway, so you have to be ready.
  23. _simply
    _simply 23 September 2022 19: 13
    +3
    Everything is elementary simple. Stupid (and often cynical) officials and the system's unprecedented ossification give a natural result... The system needs to be pushed aside like a flabby fat man. Although, to tell the truth, it should push itself apart. Try to perform a set of intense exercises without preparation. The system did not keep itself in shape. She just got lazy. This can be seen in the way the military registration and enlistment offices work. This is the first time they've come across this reality...
  24. Charik
    Charik 23 September 2022 19: 40
    +4
    yes, the state system strives to deceive everywhere, even in such things as burial, and here even the cemetery mafia will not let you calmly send a person on his last journey, look at how these journalists in the suburbs opened the cemetery mafia and the strings led to the general musarni in the region - and that’s it, the peasants are sitting without trial and investigation for the third year on the bunk. Never play for money, especially with the state (somehow the expression sounds like this)
  25. Bogalex
    Bogalex 23 September 2022 19: 58
    0
    concludes an agreement with a certain Department, behind which even Redut-18 LLC with an authorized capital of 10 rubles can be hidden.

    And to show the weakly completed contract, where is the line, deciphered as "hereinafter referred to as "Management", is not empty?
  26. Horus
    Horus 23 September 2022 22: 05
    0
    It's all weird, not normal. They seem to want to do something, but they do it so that nothing happens. It feels like everything was thought out, but in the end they didn’t think about what was necessary.
  27. Stinging Nettle
    Stinging Nettle 24 September 2022 01: 38
    0
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan


    So what? That is, in your opinion, is it normal that the one who sagged and does not get into the war?

    What they are trying to take with combat experience and those who have served is understandable, but if they are not enough, then what to do now? Give up?


    Start bombing bridges, railways and power plants so that ammunition is not brought to the enemy.
    Provide the army with modern weapons.
    Abolish compulsory vaccination once and for all.
  28. Sergey777
    Sergey777 29 September 2022 10: 56
    0
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    So what? That is, in your opinion, is it normal that the one who sagged and does not get into the war?

    Why immediately slanted, judge by yourself or by your loved ones? Themselves from the trench already write or how. And I'll tell you this, some wanted to go on an urgent basis, but the doctors shaved it off. So don't judge people by yourself, but don't be judged.
  29. insafufa
    insafufa 29 September 2022 13: 28
    0
    It is clear that Moscow is not Russia at all, and the farther from the capital, the more difficult it becomes. But still not quite the same.

    They were in Moscow, they all fell down from the moon and worked a lot with them in the Moscow region, in their understanding, this is not Russia, but Russia, in their understanding, is a colony.
    The fish rots from the head, the state falls apart from the capital

    The history of the USSR and the Russian Empire are examples of this
  30. Ivan_366
    Ivan_366 Yesterday, 20: 22
    0
    what I want to say, the article is of course one-sided, there is no whole picture. We will supplement, I live in Siberia in a certain republic, I am in this very reserve and, like the majority of those who are, we are not there for money, most of them are patriots of their country, the average age is 35-45 years, 20 percent of the personnel are retired or combine, contracts were concluded min. defense and a specific part, but no one wants to deal with us, everything is as always, but not very many of us, although on paper, a reinforcement brigade, in reality, a little more than a battalion. They thought something would change after September 26, they were just at the monthly training camp, yeah, in less than five days the training camp was turned off. I heard that in the south of Russia B.A.R.S. sharpened under Ukraine, here we just have a screen ..