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An attempt to attack the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Posad-Pokrovsky area ended in the complete defeat of the advancing units

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An attempt to attack the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Posad-Pokrovsky area ended in the complete defeat of the advancing units

The situation in the Nikolaevka-Kryvyi Rih direction is relatively calm, but in some areas the fighting continues. The command of the Ukrainian group, despite the losses suffered, continues to send units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in suicidal attacks on the positions of the Russian army.


On the Posad-Pokrovsky and Aleksandrovsky sectors, the enemy attempted to break through the defenses of the Russian Armed Forces in the area of ​​the village of Pravdino with the forces of three tanks and six infantry fighting vehicles, but ran into a well-organized defense of Russian paratroopers. During the battle, several units of Ukrainian armored vehicles managed to get behind our lines, but the approaching reserves managed to knock out all the IFVs that had broken through and one tank, forcing the nationalists to retreat. However, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not end there, the retreating units came under artillery fire and aviation.

According to Rybar's TG channel, at the moment, army aviation helicopters are finishing off the remnants of the advancing forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that have retreated to Pravdino.


At the Andreevsky site, at the moment, artillery continues to finish off units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of ​​\u30b\uXNUMXbthe settlement. Dry Stavok. It is reported that due to the rise in the water level in Ingulets, part of the crossings became unusable, and on the left bank, a grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, cut off from the main forces, remained, including about XNUMX armored vehicles. Cannon and rocket artillery worked on it all last night, bomber aircraft covered it from above. The village of Dry Stavok itself as a settlement ceased to exist, only stumps remained from all the adjacent forest plantations.

The enemy suffered very heavy losses, according to Rybar's TG channel, ambulances carried the wounded to Bereznegovatoe until the morning.

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TG-channel Corner of Sitkha
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  1. Cat Alexandrovich
    Cat Alexandrovich 16 September 2022 19: 18
    +1
    M.b. someone explain what is the point of constant attacks with such small forces?
    Not the sides of the Vedas are coming, brigades, divisions ...
    1. Negruz
      Negruz 16 September 2022 19: 28
      +3
      Maybe they looked at where our reserves are being transferred from and how much they can and how quickly ...
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 09: 49
        0
        It is logical, but it confuses me that they are so at risk with armored vehicles that they themselves do not produce.
        1. Negruz
          Negruz 17 September 2022 14: 27
          +1
          The only reasonable explanation is that they have in their hands a plan for the mass deliveries of new armored vehicles approved by the "sponsors" and a schedule for the preparation of personnel and rembase for it ...
          hi
        2. isv000
          isv000 17 September 2022 15: 44
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Salenko
          It is logical, but it confuses me that they are so at risk with armored vehicles that they themselves do not produce.

          The keywords are "do not produce themselves." The NATO command has never considered the loss of equipment and weapons - more, they say, will be brought up. And to vsukam, and even more so to the lantern - they threw it and ran away ...
    2. Recon
      Recon 16 September 2022 19: 29
      +9
      Utilization of as many Slavic young men as possible. Behind a puddle, they rub their hands happily.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 16 September 2022 20: 13
        +13
        Quote: Recon
        Utilization of as many Slavic young men as possible. Behind a puddle, they rub their hands happily.

        Poles are also Slavs.
        Here, after all, as in that cartoon, it is important - not who you are, but what you are. winked
        1. Recon
          Recon 16 September 2022 20: 27
          +1
          Poles are also Slavs.
          Here, after all, as in that cartoon, it is important - not who you are, but what you are. winked

          so they are there too.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 16 September 2022 20: 40
            +1
            Quote: Recon
            Poles are also Slavs.
            Here, after all, as in that cartoon, it is important - not who you are, but what you are. winked

            so they are there too.

            Well, where request
        2. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 16 September 2022 20: 29
          +12
          Quote: Terenin
          Poles are also Slavs.

          What kind of Slavs are they?! Maybe once they were ... but they swam a long time ago! Like Czechs, Slovaks, Bulgarians! Catholicism, Protestantism in Poland, the Czech Republic ... and Slavism! Mankurt they do not remember kinship!
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 16 September 2022 20: 39
            +6
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            What kind of Slavs are they?!

            Still what, when Russians beat them.
          2. Alexander Salenko
            Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 09: 52
            0
            Well, sorry, it's hard to agree with you. From the fact that the Poles are Catholics, they ceased to be Poles? They never had Orthodoxy, but I saw Poles and Protestants, did they cease to be Catholics, did they cease to be Poles? And the Bulgarians who converted to Islam are not so rare. But what about some, what about others, I can, albeit badly, but communicate without an interpreter. Because the Poles and Bulgarians have a Slavic language, as a child I had Bulgarian magazines Raduga, I read and understood nothing, except for some words.
            1. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 18 September 2022 21: 10
              0
              Quote: Alexander Salenko
              hard to agree with you.

              It's your right to disagree with me! But to express my opinion ... even conviction is my right! You have such a position ...: "Whatever you call a yacht, so it will float ..."! In your opinion, if the Poles are classified as Slavs, then they are certainly Slavs! I don’t think so ... peoples belonging to the same ethnic group should have something significant in common! What do Poles and Russians have in common? I can't answer you straight away! What is the "cement" that holds the ethnic community together? Often...it's Vera! Faith is of great importance in shaping the worldview, mentality! And yet, faith has an impact on culture, language, writing, names ... In Serbia and Bulgaria, for example, Cyrillic ... And in Croatia (the same people!), For example, Latin and Catholicism! And the result? Croatia is a purely pro-Western country that categorically rejects any commonality with the Serbs! Lithuania was once a purely Orthodox country with the ensuing features ... In the Commonwealth, Orthodoxy was forcibly suppressed ... "Catholicism triumphed"! And the result? The worldview, the mentality of the Lithuanian society and the state have noticeably changed! So ... no matter what you say, my opinion about the mankurts of kinship who do not remember will remain the same!
              1. Alexander Salenko
                Alexander Salenko 19 September 2022 06: 49
                0
                In your opinion, if the Poles are classified as Slavs, then they are certainly Slavs!

                Of course, whether they are Slavs or not determines the language, the Poles have it Slavic, I can make out their language, with difficulty, but I can, but you don’t understand Ukrainian, for example, so maybe the Ukrainians are not Slavs, or are you not a Slav? Moreover, the East Germans are for the most part Germanized Slavs, there are sometimes very funny surnames among their generals, for example, von Bülow, or von Lettow-Vorbeck.
                I don’t think so ... peoples belonging to the same ethnic group should have something significant in common!

                Seriously? Look at the Serbs and Croats, some Catholics, others Orthodox, more precisely, if in order, then vice versa, because their languages ​​differ much less than Russian and Ukrainian, there is essentially one language at all.
                Or let's take for example the German group, the British and the Germans in it, are there any differences? Yes, even in Germany alone they are not counting the East Germans, say a resident of Bavaria and a resident of the Palatinate is different, or a Romanesque group, where the inhabitants of Northern Italy hardly understand the inhabitants of South.
                What they all have in common, including the Slavs, is a language group.
                Well, for example, I bought the other day, being in Belgorod as a tourist on tap, Czech beer spats, the emphasis on the first syllable. My friend put the accent wrong and the seller corrected it - it's a rook in Czech. Oh, I said, as in Ukrainian almost - shpak. Or are the Czechs also not Slavs? And what about Slovaks or Slovenes then who? Their name says exactly who they are.
                What do Poles and Russians have in common?

                language group. As a Ukrainian, I can tell you that between Ukrainians and Galicians, they are Westerners, there is also little in common, even knowing Ukrainian I am Westerners by ear, if they chatter, I perceive it with difficulty. The words are familiar, but the pronunciation is different.
                What is the "cement" that holds the ethnic community together? Often...it's Vera!

                Grandfather Marx would not agree with you, language, common area of ​​​​residence and economic activity. From this point of view, by the way, the Jews are not a single people, with which I agree. Well, what can be in common between Polish and Spanish Jews, except for the religion that you rest on.
                Let's remember the Soviet film about the Musketeers. Porthos says that we Frenchmen kill each other because we sing psalms in Latin, and they - in French. So who is French and who is not?
                And the result? Croatia is a purely pro-Western country

                So you remembered about them, so from the fact that they are pro-Western, they ceased to be Slavs or what?
                Lithuania was once a purely Orthodox country with the ensuing peculiarities...

                And once pagan, it may be unpleasant for you, but Slavic mounds of the 13th century were found near Moscow, should I remind you that this is a pagan funeral rite? If you are not in the know, then our distant ancestors were nomads and put the Byzantine Empire on tsshi. For example, in the Peloponnese, and this is Southern Greece, there are over 200 Slavic toponyms.
                So ... no matter what you say, my opinion about the mankurts of kinship who do not remember will remain the same!

                Well, excuse me, the Poles have never been Orthodox, and as for Orthodoxy and Catholicism, the Catholics can say that it is you, the Orthodox, who are stupid schismatics, and we carry the seed of wisdom, it was we who created the universities. You can see for yourself how many terms we have in Latin, all medicine, for example, is in it.
                Doesn't it bother you that Catholic Germans have been slaughtering Protestant Germans for about a century and vice versa? Did they stop being Germans because of this?
                So the Poles and Czechs are not mankurts, they themselves, the first with huge ambitions, and with a masochistic inclination, are not tired of getting hit in the teeth? The second one is a little easier. As for the Poles, they could not create a stable empire, and our ancestors created what is now called the Russian world. And as one Kazan Tatar told me - we are essentially one people, he is a Turk, I am a Slav, isn't he right?
                Look at the NWO, there you can’t pronounce some of the names of Russian heroes the first time. And the Russian Galkin is a nonentity for me, and Aldar Tsydenzhapov is a Russian hero for me.
      2. Yaroslav Ryazansky
        Yaroslav Ryazansky 16 September 2022 20: 15
        +2
        Behind the puddle, Slavic young men, trained by NATO instructors, outfitted with SS emblems, armed with NATO weapons, go for recycling.
      3. Roman Efremov
        Roman Efremov 18 September 2022 11: 10
        0
        Well, let's break off all their plans behind a puddle - capitulate, return Donbass and Crimea! And the "Slavic young men" will stop dying. And we will release all the tattooed men from Azov - they are Slavs!!! So what?????????????
        Why do you and many others repeat this "mantra" - Slavic men are dying? ENEMIES are dying, murderers of children and servants of America. And we do not have and WILL NOT have another way to victory, except for their destruction.
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 September 2022 20: 08
      +5
      Reconnaissance in battle.
      They probe the defense, look for weak points.
    4. Blackbeard
      Blackbeard 16 September 2022 21: 32
      0
      how artificial intelligence in strategy sends one soldier at a time
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 09: 55
        0
        Therefore, the games that are called strategies are not at all, except perhaps for Civilization and one series of paradoxical games. And this is, frankly, a terminological problem. Here, in the news, they often report: a strategic height has been taken ...
      2. isv000
        isv000 17 September 2022 15: 50
        0
        Quote: blackbeard
        how artificial intelligence in strategy sends one soldier at a time

        Marine Kislyakov near Murmansk remained alone against hundreds of rangers. Won.
    5. Region-25.rus
      Region-25.rus 17 September 2022 07: 53
      +3
      M.b. someone explain what is the point of constant attacks with such small forces?
      Not the sides of the Vedas are coming, brigades, divisions ...
      such forces are usually probed for defense. Water as "reconnaissance in force" is called "
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 16 September 2022 19: 30
    +3
    Lesya has already taken Kiselyovka 28 times, Kim says I have never taken it. And neither of these two will talk about the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Pravdino. Consensus in Ukrainian.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 16 September 2022 20: 20
      +3
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Lesya has already taken Kiselyovka 28 times, Kim says I have never taken it. And neither of these two will talk about the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Pravdino. Consensus in Ukrainian.

      If these Ukrainian NATO mercenaries have not yet screamed, then you need to hurry, then there will be less and less reason.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 September 2022 20: 25
        0
        Kiselevka in the gray zone. There are no Russian positions,
        no APU. Arta shoots her from two sides.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 16 September 2022 20: 29
          +3
          Ukrainian Kiselevka, which everyone shoots through in the gray zone near Tel Aviv. laughing
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 16 September 2022 20: 36
            -2
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Ukrainian Kiselevka, which everyone shoots through in the gray zone near Tel Aviv.

            In the gray zone near Tel Aviv, Ukrainians would wipe it with a rag, and not fire at it - prices per square meter are higher than in Moscow laughing
        2. poquello
          poquello 16 September 2022 20: 41
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Kiselevka in the gray zone. There are no Russian positions,
          no APU. Arta shoots her from two sides.

          you have a new avatar, is it Moska?
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 16 September 2022 20: 49
            +8
            Yes.
            The previous avatar was aggressive. negative
            The VO forum is friendly, polite and smart people. fellow
            My former avatar prevented them from giving me thousands of pluses for my objective and balanced posts.
            With a new positive avatar, I will become the Generalissimo of the VO in the very near future. good drinks
            Did I satisfy your curiosity? laughing
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 16 September 2022 21: 05
              +1
              Corgi is the beloved dog of the deceased, how many she buried can not be counted. Have you chosen to mourn for her?
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 16 September 2022 21: 18
                0
                To live to 96, retaining physical strength (until the last day - on his feet), a sound head, memory and sense of humor - there is something to envy. Gift from God.
                Or maybe good corgis helped? wink
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 16 September 2022 21: 23
                  +4
                  She drank their blood at night! But Truss came and in two days in her premiership sent the old woman to the corgi. Let them walk together. There is such longevity in the older generation who survived the war.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 16 September 2022 21: 48
                    0
                    "She drank their blood at night! But Truss came and in two days in her premiership sent the old woman to the corgi" ///
                    ---
                    Your fantasies are interesting...
                    You need to publish horror novels - become famous! yes
                2. Alexander Salenko
                  Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 09: 59
                  -1
                  And medical care. My great-grandfather, without all this, in good health and on his own two, died at 82, having gone through the war and captivity. So I wouldn’t call it a great achievement, I didn’t drink, I didn’t smoke. The day before yesterday I was in the Diorama of the Battle of Kursk, so they talked about a veteran, a woman, a participant in the battle, she is 101 years old and also does not have that clucking around the queen.
            2. aszzz888
              aszzz888 17 September 2022 08: 01
              -1

              voyaka uh (Alexey)
              Yesterday, 20: 49

              +4
              Yes.
              The previous avatar was aggressive. negative
              The VO forum is friendly, polite and smart people. fellow
              My old avatar prevented them from giving me thousands of upvotes for my objective and balanced posts.
              laughing fool laughing mykola-monya from under Zhmerinka again throws horses! wassat your floods and stuffing are no different from Goebbels propaganda. Only he did not work for matzah. tongue
        3. Chronos
          Chronos 16 September 2022 21: 34
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Kiselevka in the gray zone. There are no Russian positions,
          no APU. Arta shoots her from two sides.

          Kiselevka in the near Russian rear.
    2. TIR
      TIR 16 September 2022 20: 50
      0
      So this is the essence of their strategy in covering events. People will no longer think about losses, but whether they took Shpak or not
  3. TIR
    TIR 16 September 2022 19: 35
    -12
    Bypassed our units from the rear? Either there was a breakthrough in defense or they entered through a gap. In the first case, our losses are clearly not small, in the second case there is no reconnaissance from UAVs. Both versions of the event are clearly bad for us. But judging by the input of the reserve, most likely there was a breakthrough in defense. The front was more or less stable. Therefore, I think the defense there was from the DPR reservists with poor weapons, and regular troops are already standing in the second line
    1. 27091965
      27091965 16 September 2022 20: 24
      +2
      Quote: TIR
      But judging by the input of the reserve, most likely there was a breakthrough in defense

      Maxim, don't you think that it was a company stronghold. In this case, it can be bypassed on the BMP.
      1. TIR
        TIR 16 September 2022 20: 39
        +1
        Yes, there are defenses built on both sides according to this scheme. Main forces in 2 lines. Bypassing the opornik by substituting the rear for the main forces is, to put it mildly, a shitty undertaking. Forge a strong point in infantry combat and on the armor from the flank bypass and hit the main forces in 2 lines. And then either they don’t give a complete picture or there was a breakthrough and the reserves helped
        1. 27091965
          27091965 16 September 2022 20: 54
          +2
          Quote: TIR
          Forge a strong point in infantry combat and on the armor from the flank bypass and hit the main forces in 2 lines. And then either they don’t give a complete picture or there was a breakthrough and the reserves helped

          Maxim of three tanks and six infantry fighting vehicles is clearly not enough for a serious attack on the main (second) line of defense. Moreover, without artillery support. Reconnaissance in combat involves identifying reserves, artillery, movement routes, etc.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 16 September 2022 20: 26
      +3
      Quote: TIR
      Bypassed our units from the rear? Either there was a breakthrough in defense or they entered through a gap. In the first case, our losses are clearly not small, in the second case there is no reconnaissance from UAVs. Both versions of the event are clearly bad for us. But judging by the input of the reserve, most likely there was a breakthrough in defense. The front was more or less stable. Therefore, I think the defense there was from the DPR reservists with poor weapons, and regular troops are already standing in the second line

      It seems that this is from your company all the time and diligently explained that during the Second World War, the Russians lost the "Battle of Kursk" with the calculation of their fantasies? laughing
    3. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 10: 00
      0
      Focal defense, is such a term known?
  4. _simply
    _simply 16 September 2022 19: 37
    0
    It may be palpated. They don't let you relax. The main blow now falls on the Kharkov direction. The situation there is quite tense. But, the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not unlimited. It's just that they immediately break on the defense. The only thing is that they can now shell the territories, including ours. This is where they will have to kick them deep into the so-called Ukraine. And how they will do it, we'll see.
    1. TIR
      TIR 16 September 2022 20: 46
      +1
      Looking for weak points. Yes, and we need to keep our reserves in constant attacks so that they cannot be transferred to the Donbass. The idea is, of course, so-so. Since it leads to an overstrain of all its own forces and there is a constant leakage of reserves. Although they caught up with people under arms, the reserves are not unlimited. Therefore, even now they have gone on the offensive, so that when the Armed Forces of Ukraine get tired and the reserves run out, mudslide will come. Everything is well planned
      1. Nickelium
        Nickelium 17 September 2022 00: 50
        -2
        Donbass is on the other side on the border with Russia. You can easily send troops there. Why transfer them from Kherson?
  5. Fisherman
    Fisherman 16 September 2022 19: 54
    +10
    Therefore, at a press conference after the SCO summit, Putin answered the question about the "counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" with a smirk and the words "let them try, we'll see." In attempts to attack, dill have the biggest losses of the most combat-ready units, because their mobs mostly stick out on the defensive in fortified areas (from which it is long, troublesome and with greater losses to pick out). Let them try to attack, and the smaller the group, the better. The so-called small mobile attack is good only for finding a weak defense and expanding the breakthrough with large forces with the further development of an offensive operation. But the Ukrainians do not have large forces, means and weapons for a major offensive operation, so this is all - floundering for the sake of floundering, they have only one end - kirdyk Ukraine.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 16 September 2022 20: 47
      +1
      Quote: Fisherman
      they have only one end - kirdyk Ukraine.

      100500 times warned. Useless. Stubborn, like... Ukrainians. Then they will run through the forests for a long time.
      1. Fisherman
        Fisherman 16 September 2022 20: 50
        +4
        they are not stubborn ... we are stubborn, Russians ... they are STUPID! ... and they also think that they are not just cunning, but smarter than everyone .... which once again emphasizes their stupidity.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 16 September 2022 21: 02
          +5
          Quote: Fisherman
          .we are stubborn, Russians...

          Dmitry, Russians are not stubborn, but stubborn. But perseverance and stubbornness are two different things.
          1. Fisherman
            Fisherman 17 September 2022 11: 50
            0
            I agree, stubborn ... but sometimes we are stubborn.
    2. TIR
      TIR 16 September 2022 20: 57
      0
      The same Kharkov was not possible to storm, since the Armed Forces of Ukraine, like a spring, were compressed towards the city. It had to be taken in the first days of the NWO, not counting the loss. Now the main forces have withdrawn from the city. If you manage to grind them right now, then you can already correct the mistake of starting the SVO and from the second attempt to enter the city with one blow. Like Zhukov, we don’t have so many soldiers to impose a battle on the Seelow Heights and prevent the main forces from retreating to the city, entering from the flanks
      1. Nickelium
        Nickelium 17 September 2022 00: 52
        -1
        To storm Kharkov, you need to enter from the south, from Barvenkovo, Lozova, from the west through the Dnepropetrovsk region, Bogodukhov and from the north, from Cossack Lopan. Then Kharkov automatically falls into the blockade.
  6. Rage66
    Rage66 16 September 2022 20: 20
    0
    I don’t understand why paratroopers are puffing everywhere? They have a different purpose... soldier
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 September 2022 20: 28
      -6
      Motorized rifles near Kherson are weak.
      Marines from the Crimea and paratroopers are the only combat-ready units there. The defense rests on them and artillery.
      1. Chronos
        Chronos 16 September 2022 21: 46
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Motorized rifles near Kherson are weak.
        Marines from the Crimea and paratroopers are the only combat-ready units there. The defense rests on them and artillery.

        The 33rd motorized rifle regiment and the coastal defense brigade were surprised.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 16 September 2022 21: 51
          -3
          33rd - is it whose commander died at the beginning of the NWO?
          Didn't know it was on the right side.
          1. Chronos
            Chronos 16 September 2022 21: 57
            -2
            Yes, volunteers have brought copters to them now. It will be easier.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 16 September 2022 22: 04
              -6
              Will it help already? The situation there is unimportant, despite victories in small clashes.
              A grouping of 20 (or is it already less? Part of it has left) is blocked along the Dnieper.
              If they receive an order to "relocate" in time, it will be good for the soldiers.
              1. Chronos
                Chronos 16 September 2022 22: 54
                +5
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Will it help already? The situation there is unimportant, despite victories in small clashes.
                A grouping of 20 (or is it already less? Part of it has left) is blocked along the Dnieper.
                If they receive an order to "relocate" in time, it will be good for the soldiers.

                According to reports from gunners from near Kiselevka, they do not understand at all that they are panicking so much in the rear, and they are sure of victory. They work for two days with almost no rest, there are no problems with BC. Artillery was withdrawn behind the Dnieper only in one sector, and the troops on the right bank retreated a little to be under its cover. There are no unresolved supply problems yet. Look, even military correspondents and volunteers get there.
                1. Repellent
                  Repellent 16 September 2022 23: 00
                  +3
                  Quote: Chronos
                  that in the rear they are so panicking

                  Eco, you have enough ... "warrior" - he is from Israel, and Israel is, well, a very "deep rear" laughing
              2. Alexander Salenko
                Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 10: 06
                +1
                Alexei, for whose soldiers the retreat will be successful, can you tell me?
      2. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 17 September 2022 10: 04
        +1
        From Crimea, marines and coastal defense, respectively, 810 and 126 brigades, but they are not single there, but the two main strike formations of the peninsula - they are.
    2. Beregovic_1
      Beregovic_1 16 September 2022 20: 39
      0
      They have no other purpose. The concept of the Airborne Forces is flawed. Although... They did a good job in Gostomel. Well trained infantry with flawed heavy weapons. I hope they are given motorized rifle equipment ....
      1. Rage66
        Rage66 16 September 2022 21: 05
        0
        The concept of the Airborne Forces is not flawed ... But not within the framework of the NWO soldier
        1. Beregovic_1
          Beregovic_1 16 September 2022 21: 53
          +2
          Within the framework of the SVO, they were correctly used 1 time, and then this led to huge losses. The rest of the time they are used as mobile infantry without armored vehicles.
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 16 September 2022 20: 50
      +1
      Quote: Rage66
      I don’t understand why paratroopers are puffing everywhere? They have a different purpose... soldier

      According to your logic, you can understand that they are generally not suitable for motorized riflemen ...?
      1. Rage66
        Rage66 16 September 2022 21: 04
        -2
        I didn’t understand where they are not suitable for motorized riflemen?
        Have you served in the army? Do you know the combat missions of the military branches?
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 17 September 2022 11: 07
          +1
          Quote: Rage66
          Have you served in the army? Do you know the combat missions of the military branches?
          I had to visit many places.

          Quote: Rage66
          I didn’t understand where they are not suitable for motorized riflemen?
          I'll try to get my point across.
          I meant a sudden and fleeting battle, carefully selected, strong, long and expensive airborne fighters, with limited ammunition (you don’t need much to fight the rear and headquarters structures), and regularly equipped infantry, in a certain territory (about which everyone knows), artillery, tanks, mortars, and most importantly - with large ammunition.
  7. Andrey Shpakov
    Andrey Shpakov 16 September 2022 20: 31
    +5
    yes .. breaking through the front with the forces of three tanks .. this is fascinating reading .. and even went to the rear.
  8. Arkady007
    Arkady007 16 September 2022 22: 11
    0
    Not quite sure who to trust. According to the Pravdino map in our controlled territory, how could the Armed Forces of Ukraine retreat there?
  9. GNM
    GNM 16 September 2022 22: 12
    -2
    In general, the score is on the scoreboard: positive news outnumbers negative news, chickens are counted in the fall.
  10. fa2998
    fa2998 17 September 2022 07: 25
    -3
    Quote: Chronos
    Kiselevka in the near Russian rear.

    A week ago, Kupyansk and Izyum were in the Russian rear. And not particularly near. request what hi
  11. Sergey Kuzmin
    Sergey Kuzmin 17 September 2022 14: 18
    0
    At the Andreevsky site, at the moment, artillery continues to finish off units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of ​​\u30b\uXNUMXbthe settlement. Dry Stavok. It is reported that due to the rise in the water level in Ingulets, part of the crossings became unusable, and on the left bank, a grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, cut off from the main forces, remained, including about XNUMX armored vehicles. Cannon and rocket artillery worked on it all last night, bomber aircraft covered it from above. The village of Dry Stavok itself ceased to exist as a settlement, only stumps remained from all the adjacent forest plantations
    "About 30 units of armored vehicles" are being finished off for a long time on the Ukronazi bridgehead .... It is necessary to suppress that Ukronazi artillery that supports those who dug in on the bridgehead ....
  12. runway-1
    runway-1 17 September 2022 15: 11
    -1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Yes.
    The previous avatar was aggressive. negative
    The VO forum is friendly, polite and smart people. fellow
    My former avatar prevented them from giving me thousands of pluses for my objective and balanced posts.
    With a new positive avatar, I will become the Generalissimo of the VO in the very near future. good drinks
    Did I satisfy your curiosity? laughing

    There is a group of caring "comrades" here (from the category - "I don't calmly walk past my mother-in-law's house ..."). They are the most zealous domestic "liberators-denazifiers" ...
    And yes, they really do not like objective assessments. winked
  13. FASTWOLF
    FASTWOLF 17 September 2022 17: 20
    0
    job well done more god less Nazis sent to hell .