"Chatellerault" - one of the long-lived machine guns

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"Chatellerault" - one of the long-lived machine guns
Machine gun FM Mle 1924/29 "Chatellerault". Photo littlegun.be


“One and a half hundred fighters, dragging heavy machine guns on their hands, leaving their boots in viscous silt, where they crawled, where they swam, crossed under the cover of reeds to the other side, went to the flank of the Kutepovites and hit them.”
Alexei Tolstoy, Gloomy Morning

stories about weapon. And it so happened that in the early 1900s, Samuel McClean, a doctor by training, abandoned his medical practice at the age of 40 and designed, and even managed to make a large 37-mm automatic gun in metal, which was mounted on a pedestal in the back of a truck. True, he did not succeed with a cannon, and then he began to develop a rifle-caliber machine gun. By 1920, he received more than 30 patents in his name, but his most important achievement was the development of a light machine gun with a gas engine. It was this development of his that formed the basis for the design of the Isaac Lewis machine gun, and McClean owns such important components in it as a bolt with a fixed striker, and the overall layout of the weapon. True, and Lewis did a lot. It was he who developed a new cartridge supply system, a new disk magazine, not a drum magazine, and an original cooling system.




Diagram of a McClean machine gun from a 1909 patent

In 1918-1919, McClean tried to create another light machine gun and ... created it, and its main feature was the absence of a fire translator. Instead, without turning around for a long time, he used a pair of triggers: the rear for semi-automatic fire and the front for fully automatic. And although this innovation as a whole did not take root in weapons practice, in a country like France, on the basis of its development, even its own light machine gun was created, replacing the useless Chauchat for many years.


Two triggers - one of the "highlights" of the McClin machine gun. Photo forgottenweapons

The French army took care of the issue of replacing it immediately after the end of the First World War. Considering the situation in which she found herself with the Chauchat completely intolerable, and realizing that you couldn’t win much with heavy machine guns alone, the French military decided to adopt the American Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR), but in the end they still considered more profitable to develop their own weapons.


This photo clearly shows a number of distinctive features of the Chatellerault machine gun: on the left - the handle in the rear of the receiver served to facilitate the disassembly of the machine gun, with its help the locking bolt was unscrewed and the butt was separated; above the rear trigger is the safety lever. Photo forgottenweapons

After that, MAS (an abbreviation for Manufacture d'Armes de St. Etienne - one of several state-owned arms factories in France), borrowing something from BAR and something from other samples, created its own light machine gun, developed by Lieutenant Colonel Reibel with the assistance of chief armorer Chosse. Moreover, it was already created under the new 7,5 mm cartridge, which replaced the old 8 mm. So there was a weapon called "Automatic rifle mod. 1924" or Fusil-mitrailleur Mle 1924.


Gas engine, barrel and bolt of the Chatellerault machine gun. Photo littlegun.be

Already at the end of May 1925, FM Mle 1924 was put into mass production and again in May 1926 took part in the battles in Morocco against the reefs. It was immediately well received by the troops, especially since it favorably differed for the better from the Chauchat and was comparable in its characteristics to the much heavier Hotchkiss heavy machine gun. However, the problems with the new 7,5mm cartridge proved to be so significant that the French had to develop the shorter 7,5×54mm cartridge, which from 1929 became the standard for all future rifles and light machine guns in French service. A new modified version of the Fusil-mitrailleur modèle 1924 was named FM Mle 1924/M29 and was mass-produced from 1930. 187 of these machine guns were made, and earlier samples were re-barreled for new 412 × 7,5 mm ammunition.


Magazine in a case and clips with 7,5×54mm cartridges. Photo littlegun.be

The new French machine gun took all the best from the models that performed well during the war years, and some later innovations. The machine gun had a 25-round detachable magazine inserted from above, a bolt held by a slide delay after the last cartridge had been fired from the magazine, and two separate triggers, as on an experienced McClean machine gun: a front trigger for single shots and a rear trigger for automatic firing.


Shutter photo. The locking of the Chatellerault barrel, by analogy with the Browning automatic rifle, was carried out by tilting the bolt in its rear part, where there were two movable earrings on a common axis. When moving forward, the barrel ran into a ledge on the frame at the top and, accordingly, warped, locking the barrel. But the drummer on the vertical stand, as in the Lewis machine gun, was made motionless. Photo forgottenweapons


Scheme of the operation of the bolt frame and the bolt of the Chatellerault machine gun. Rice. armesfrancaises.free.fr

The barrel was screwed into the receiver like the Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR), so it could not be quickly and easily replaced in the field, unlike the Czech ZB vz. 26 and its British variant, the Bren machine gun. The operating instructions for the French army (July 1925) recommended not to allow more than 400 shots with continuous fire, since then it took ten to fifteen minutes for the machine gun to cool sufficiently. The optimal firing scheme from the FM 1924 was as follows: shooting four or five detachable magazines (from 100 to 125 rounds), then a short pause - and so on, to ensure stable operation of the machine gun.


Receiver cover in the closed position. Photo forgottenweapons


The lid is open, a magazine is inserted into the receiver. Photo forgottenweapons

The protection of all holes on the body of the machine gun from dirt and dust was thought out perfectly. For example, a single cover was provided on the machine gun for the magazine opening and the hole for extracting spent cartridges. The rate of fire was quite high - 450 rounds per minute, which made it possible to shoot for a long time without overheating the barrel. Since the machine gun was created on the basis of the prototype MAC 1923 of the Chatellerault weapons factory, for brevity they began to call it that.


Machine gun with folded bipod. Royal Arsenal, Leeds

As already noted, the design of the machine gun was quite perfect, although not without flaws. So, due to the fact that the store was inserted from the top in the center, the sight had to be shifted to the left, which was inconvenient for left-handers. The side-folding front bipod was strong and light, but swung freely around the barrel rather than being fixed on it, which interfered with marksmanship. The holes on the wooden forearm made it possible to mount it on combat vehicles, which made it possible to use it as a light machine gun. It was also convenient for shooting from a position on the hip.


Machine gun with unfolded bipod. Royal Arsenal, Leeds

The soldiers of the French army really liked the new weapon, who first used it in battle on May 11, 1926 during the Rif War. As a result, the FM 24/29 became the standard automatic weapon of the French infantry and cavalry at the beginning of World War II. After the surrender of France in 1940, the Germans got a great many of these machine guns, as well as cartridges for them. So until the very end of the war, under the designations MG 115 (f) and MG 116 (f), they used them in their troops - in the Wehrmacht and the Volkssturm to defend the Atlantic Wall. MAC 24/29 was also used in limited numbers by the Finnish Defense Forces during the Winter War with the USSR, and then during the years of its participation in World War II. From 1943, when the French army was re-armed and reorganized in North Africa with Allied support, the FM 24/29 remained in service, as French troops considered it superior to the Browning automatic rifle.


That's how they shot him lying down. Photo forgottenweapons

There was a modification - “Machine gun arr. 1931", originally intended for use on the fortifications of the Maginot Line, but later used for weapons tanks and other armored vehicles. This model had a peculiarly shaped stock and a side drum magazine for 150 rounds. The internal structure remained the same as on previous models, however, the barrel length was increased, due to which both the overall length of the machine gun and the muzzle velocity increased. Accordingly, the mass also increased, but since the French used these weapons in stationary positions or on the chassis of wheeled and tracked vehicles, this did not become a problem, and machine guns mod. 1931 in the pre-war period were produced in large quantities.

After the defeat of France in June 1940, the 1931 model of the year also began to be used by the Germans, most often as a tank - Kpfw MG 331 (f), and an anti-aircraft machine gun. The Germans, however, noted that all modifications of the Chatellerault machine gun had a number of shortcomings, primarily related to the cartridge used by the French: in their opinion, it was too low-power for them, so the firing range of them seemed small to them.


And so - standing! Photo forgottenweapons

As soon as World War II ended, the production of FM 24/29 machine guns was continued, so that during the First Indochina War it became the main workhorse of the French army and was used as an infantry squad weapon, and was put on jeeps modeled on the British SAS. The FM 24/29 was used by the French in Algeria, but it was replaced with the new AA-52 universal machine gun only in the 1960s. However, this did not mean that it was immediately handed over to warehouses. For a long time, it remained in service with the regiments of the General Reserve of the French army, and was stored in the warehouses of the country's mobilization centers until the mid-1980s. In the regional brigades of the national gendarmerie, it was used until 2000-2006. It was officially withdrawn from service only in the same 2006, but again they began to distribute it as military assistance to the former colonies of France in Africa, so the Chatellerault ended up in Algeria, Benin, Cameroon, the Central African Republic, the Comoros, the Congo , Côte d'Ivoire, Djibouti, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Madagascar, Morocco, Mauritania, Niger, Senegal, the Seychelles and the Republic of Chad. At least 200 copies of this machine gun were used by the Israel Defense Forces in Palestine in 1947-1949.


Viet Cong patrol, October 27, 1966

In Southeast Asia, he fought in the armed forces in Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam during the Indochina War. The fighters of the Viet Minh and Viet Cong, the People's Army of Vietnam and the Army of the Republic of Vietnam were armed with this machine gun. In the Republic of Cambodia, it was used until 1989.

TTX FM 24/29
In service: 1925-1979 (French Army), 1956-2008 (national gendarmerie)
Manufacturer: Manufacture d'Armes de Châtellerault
Produced in 1925-1960s. 232 942 pcs.
Weight: 8,9 kg
Length: 1080 mm
Barrel length: 500 mm
Cartridge: 7,5 × 54 mm
Rate: 450 rounds per minute
Initial speed: 830 m / s
Effective range: 1250 m
Maximum firing range: 3950 m
Penetration: 70 cm of ground at 400 m (cartridge with an ordinary bullet)
Armor penetration: 3 mm steel at 400 m (cartridge with armor-piercing bullet)
Feeding System: 25-round detachable box magazine
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  1. +3
    1 October 2022 05: 12
    (((The main feature was the lack of a fire translator. Instead, without wrapping for a long time, he used a pair of triggers: the rear for semi-automatic fire and the front for fully automatic. And although this innovation as a whole did not take root in weapons practice, in a country like France, on the basis of its development, even its own light machine gun was created, which replaced the useless Chauchat for many years.)))
    But what about the MG-34?
    1. +8
      1 October 2022 06: 08
      Hi Vladimir! hi

      Slightly cunning, my friend. wink The MG still has one trigger, but, as it were, double and performing, respectively, two functions.

      1. +2
        1 October 2022 07: 11
        I wish you good health, Konstantin! soldier You are absolutely right ... you were lying! feel I just figured out what "comments" have been prevailing on VO lately, and decided that it would "ride"! winked And I haven’t met you for a long time, although I myself often disappear in the country ... so I decided: let me carry out a little fraud! bully
        1. +7
          1 October 2022 07: 23
          Yes, I was lying in the hospital, and there were problems with communication. Now I’m also sitting in the village, it’s raining all the time, our cat swears at the weather, he doesn’t like to shit at home, and it’s bad weather outside, but he still goes out into the bushes, albeit with a squeamish muzzle. smile
          1. +5
            1 October 2022 07: 38
            Try, Konstantin, to re-educate him. We even re-educated our street cat to walk in a completely empty tray! They're clever...
            1. +8
              1 October 2022 07: 45
              Yes, in winter he goes to the tray quite normally, obviously because of his fierce hatred of frost and snow. And what, the bastard, is smart - that's for sure, at least he builds us as he wants. laughing smile
              1. +6
                1 October 2022 08: 17
                Quote: Sea Cat
                because of a fierce hatred of frost and snow.

                And we used to have a cat in winter every day, in any weather, asked to go outside and sat there on a tree. Then she went to warm herself in the store, where everyone treated her. Then they took her home. She wanted that kind of life. Weaned with difficulty.
                1. +5
                  1 October 2022 08: 20
                  Weaned with difficulty.


                  And why, maybe not worth it? I can’t imagine how our cat would have lived if at least once a week he hadn’t beaten the face of another cat, or a dog that had run into a fool. laughing
                  1. +7
                    1 October 2022 08: 25
                    It was stolen from our store. Barely returned. And it changed her consciousness so much that she became an exemplary house cat.
                    1. +7
                      1 October 2022 08: 30
                      Now it is clear - there was a family drama and the collapse of the familiar world. smile
          2. +4
            1 October 2022 13: 37
            our cat swears at the weather what the light stands on,

            The main difference between people and animals is that animals do not keep people at home. But cats strongly disagree with this.
            1. +5
              1 October 2022 13: 50
              Quite a fair comment! laughing

    2. +2
      1 October 2022 09: 40
      At a rate of 450 shots, single mode is achieved without a fire translator.
  2. +4
    1 October 2022 05: 26
    A good machine gun, it only strains the supply of cartridges from above ... the horn with cartridges closes the view to the left when aiming ... and the balance is not in the center ... the weight of the weapon is optimal, the cartridge is common, the ballistics is satisfactory ... how it behaves in Russian frosts interesting. what
    1. +9
      1 October 2022 06: 02
      Dear. Well, what the hell is a "horn"?
      1. +1
        1 October 2022 06: 43
        Well, what the hell is a "horn"?

        smile laughing what... For 1500 rubles in trade.

        Spare magazine for Kalashnikov assault rifle (AK horn)
        A type
        shop
        1. -1
          3 October 2022 09: 57
          Thanks to you and the previous speaker for the mood for the day!

          Ps Shops for 1500 ... deaaa ... Although this is an aluminum landing, maybe that's why.
  3. +4
    1 October 2022 06: 11
    Good morning everyone, and thanks to Vyacheslav for a good article. smile

    ... on an experienced McClean machine gun:


    Photo of an experienced McClean machine gun, two triggers are clearly visible.

  4. +14
    1 October 2022 07: 00
    own light machine gun, which replaced the useless Chauchat for many years.

    Again "Chauchat"... Everyone used to call him "Shosha". The fact that the French spelling of the word Chauchat is read in English "chauchat" does not mean that Russian soldiers spoke English better than French, they could not read Russian either. The officers, on the other hand, were literate and read "shosha" correctly, with an emphasis on the last syllable. I have not seen the spelling "Chauchat" anywhere except for the respected Shpakovsky.
    1. +10
      1 October 2022 07: 25
      Yes, this "chauchat" hurts my hearing too. negative
      1. +5
        1 October 2022 08: 18
        Quote: Sea Cat
        hearing hurts.

        Yes, okay, in the future we will remove it.
    2. +5
      1 October 2022 08: 27
      The fact that the French spelling of the word Chauchat is read in English "chauchat"

      This word "chauchat" is not read in English. In words from French, "sn" is read as "sh".
      1. +2
        1 October 2022 08: 38
        This word "chauchat" is not read in English. In words from French, "sn" is read as "sh".

        It's hard to get your point across. Those. if the English were to read a French word, would they pronounce "SH" instead of "H"? Did a Russian soldier easily distinguish a French word from an English one? Or did you demonstrate your high school knowledge of English and French?
        1. +3
          1 October 2022 09: 01
          Those. if the English were to read a French word, would they pronounce "SH" instead of "H"?

          You got my point right. In English, in French proper names, the letter combination "sn" is read as "sh". The Russian soldier has absolutely nothing to do with it, he was not engaged in translations. The name "Chauchat" is a product of an illiterate translation.
          1. -1
            1 October 2022 09: 25
            The name "Chauchat" is a product of an illiterate translation.

            That is how the English soldiers called this machine gun, even though it was their own name, but their disregard for the French is widely known, and they even emphasized in their own way, on the first syllable. Now, thanks to TV commercials, "Chanel", for example, is pronounced correctly, even with an accent on the last syllable, but strained with other French words, except for the names of fashion houses. Paris to help you.
            1. 0
              1 October 2022 13: 33
              That's what the British soldiers called this machine gun,

              Were you present in the trenches of World War I? Or so, show off, build from yourself? Have you been to Paris?
              1. +2
                1 October 2022 14: 11
                Were you present in the trenches of World War I? Or so, show off, build from yourself? Have you been to Paris?

                You know, I was in the trenches of the First World War and was in Paris. Hammer the village of Mo, there is a WWI museum.
                1. +1
                  1 October 2022 14: 38
                  You know, I don’t need to “score” anything anywhere, I have been in France more often than many in the fresh air. However, you modestly kept silent about the source of information, which says that the British soldiers called the fusil-mitrailleur Chauchat machine gun "Chauchat". By the way, he was not in service with the British army. I am waiting for a link to a source from the Musée de la Grande Guerre du Pays de Meaux.
  5. 0
    1 October 2022 07: 02
    Quote: xeotyrj81
    Dear. Well, what the hell is a "horn"?

    Witty! wink
  6. +3
    1 October 2022 09: 02
    Thanks to the author for an interesting article.
    All the same, the Germans with the MG-34 conceptually overtook all their rivals, with magazine handbrakes. The actual rate of fire, and hence the density of fire, in the MG exceeded store samples by 3-4 times. An important component of the success of the German infantry on the battlefield.
  7. +7
    1 October 2022 10: 51
    Article och. good. And a machine gun. interesting!
    But this "chauchat" completely repulsed the desire to finish reading ...
    It is impossible to be so free with terms and definitions.
    This destroys the system and breeds idiot amateurs, from whom, anyway ...
  8. +1
    1 October 2022 18: 52
    After 1918, the new Czechoslovak army was equipped with a large number of machine guns brought by legionnaires from Italy, France and Russia. Of course, this machine gun, which was used in battles in Slovakia, did not disappear from army equipment. In principle, all machine guns have proven themselves, but honorary gunsmiths presented the army with a new, Czechoslovak vz 26 machine gun. Together with the Russian Maxim, the problem with replenishing ammunition was also solved. Back in 1960, these machine guns were in service with the army, so they survived the 2nd World War, but were not used there. However, we still found machine guns, which are so beautifully written about here, as a training aid in the machine gun section. These are really just memories, but in the beginning our army had everything that the legionnaires brought from the battlefields of the Great War in 1918 am
  9. 0
    1 October 2022 19: 55
    The French created a new "handbrake", but he did not help them. Not in Europe, not in Africa, not in Southeast Asia!!!
  10. 0
    2 October 2022 12: 26
    By the way, OAS fighters shot de Gaulle from Shaterlo.
    1. 0
      3 October 2022 17: 58
      With about the same success as they fought ...
  11. 0
    4 October 2022 08: 34
    Quote: Konnick
    The name "Chauchat" is a product of an illiterate translation.

    That is how the English soldiers called this machine gun, even though it was their own name, but their disregard for the French is widely known, and they even emphasized in their own way, on the first syllable.


    Huh, after several years in francophone Africa, our television advertising "Nescafe Classic" naturally hurt the ear, I wanted to throw something heavy at the screen.
    1. 0
      7 November 2022 12: 27
      Whatever they say, the scheme with the store on top is not so bad since many have used it for so long, it seems that the obstruction of the view is not critical. It would be interesting as an experiment to remake the RPK-74 by turning it 180 *, at least the horns will not rest against the ground, then the bipod can be made shorter, and in general the machine gunner will be able to snuggle closer to the ground by 10-15 cm, and this can save his life , there will be fewer delays when firing, changing the magazine will be easier and faster, and the combat rate of fire will increase.
  12. 0
    27 November 2022 19: 13
    The Czechoslovak army since its inception was looking for a light machine gun that could enhance the firepower of the squads. After an unsuccessful attempt to buy weapons abroad in 1926, a domestic development was introduced in the form of a machine gun vz. 26. The legendary machine gun by designer Václav Holek (1886-1954) has become the most famous symbol of the development of the Czech Republic. military industry and entered service with a number of states. Československá zbrojovka, as, Brno supplied it to our army in 1928–1938.

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