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So that's why they choked Nord Stream

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So that's why they choked Nord Stream



Gazprom is not needed


This information passed through the world media surprisingly quietly. No winning reports, and a clear fear that too many will know too much about what is really going on. However, it will not be possible to hide the fact that by the end of 2022 the United States will become the world leader in gas exports.

In general, at least 200 billion cubic meters will be sold. m of American blue fuel. And not only liquefied, for which in recent years there has been a fierce struggle with the same Gazprom, but also pipeline. Although the latter, of course, does not save Europe, which is left without Nord Streams.

The American figure for the first six months of 2022 is 100,3 billion cubic meters. m. About 57% of this volume is accounted for by liquefied gas. Interestingly, the US entered the LNG market only in 2016, consistently increasing supplies. Over the past six years, it has been done, at what cost, there is no need to explain, the main thing is that Russia was squeezed out of the European gas market.

The sharp rise in gas prices still pleases many of us, although someday it will backfire on Russian consumers as well. But he provided something else - the profitability of working with LNG, which has already stimulated the operational construction and commissioning of American gas facilities.

And after all, as we see, it is not Russia and not its monopoly Gazprom that is now removing the sweetest cream from record high gas prices. The main profits are made by the USA. It was American producers who did not make noise, like ours with Nord Stream, but simply plowed.

And the fact that they did not seem to have time to blockade the second and close the first of the streams is, in fact, a grandiose success. Judge for yourself - they are, of course, interested in rising prices, but they are not at all to blame. They are not to blame for the fact that so far they cannot cover all of Europe's gas needs.

From across the ocean, so far, one has not heard statements like “they are to blame,” or “we suggested that you build terminals ahead of the curve.” But I think we'll hear more. Unlike American companies that sell gas on the spot market, that is, at maximum prices, our Gazprom is still fulfilling numerous old long-term contracts.

Do I need to explain that there are not at all such extreme pricing mechanisms as in the spot market. And on record profits, the United States, under the beautiful slogan of "saving Europe", sharply reduced LNG supplies to other directions, except for the Old Continent. By all indications, the Russian "gas needle" is simply being replaced with an American one.

And in 2022, out of 115-117 billion cubic meters. m of LNG, which from the United States will disperse around the world, approximately 80-85 billion cubic meters. m will go to Europe. The growth of US LNG exports there is at a faster pace than the general indicators. If the total export of LNG in the first half of 2022 compared to the same period in 2021 increased by 8,2 billion cubic meters. m or 16,8%, then deliveries to Europe increased immediately by 150% or 23,6 billion cubic meters. m.

New gas solitaire


The US currently exports 109 bcm. m of LNG per year. This is more than Australia - 108 billion cubic meters. m, and Qatar - 107 billion cubic meters. m. Further, as already shown, there will be more, and then, with the commissioning of new LNG terminals, including European ones, even more.

As a result, the Russian gas solitaire will also have to change a lot, although perhaps this is for the better. And not because other buyers will pay more, but because we have to develop our own LNG infrastructure.

The main thing is that Gazprom, one way or another, will have to, following the example of oilmen, remember their homeland. And seriously deal with the gas supply of the Russian hinterland. And without pulling up domestic tariffs to world prices. Our consumers simply cannot afford it, in the power industry with the light hand of Chubais, we have already gone through this.

Before the start of the NWO, Russia, despite the sanctions and the refusal of European clients to launch SP-2, nevertheless exported more gas than the United States now - about 240 billion cubic meters. m per year. For many years we have been the world leader in gas exports. But how much our indicators have fallen now, they will let us know, most likely, not soon.

If, of course, they give it at all, although Gazprom will have to report one way or another. Judging by the fact that the new leader is the United States, our exports are now less than 200 billion cubic meters. m. But Gazprom's gas is not the whole gas of Russia, especially since the prospects of pushing this no longer “natural”, but some kind of unnatural, monopolist at least from LNG, are becoming more and more real every month.


How beneficial this demonopolization is from the point of view of the country's strategic interests is another question, but the liberals should definitely rejoice. Although they should be reminded what demonopolization in the power industry has given us and how much of Gazprom's revenues we have simply put into a jug over many fat years, and then you know what.

And after all, damn it, practice dictates other criteria of truth, but nothing changes in any way. Again, we sell everything we can, and again, if we get something, we immediately rush to burrow somewhere. To the direct benefit of those who are engaged in this, and to the direct losses of the budget. However, back to our gas solitaire.

Two Nord Streams, as you know, this is 110 billion cubic meters at once. m - almost half of our total exports. And replacing such volumes at once is almost impossible. Of course, it is possible to increase the capacity of the Power of Siberia quite quickly - in the future, a connection with the Kovykta field, but there 38 billion cubic meters is the maximum.

And in general, whether there is demand on the other side - this should be asked from Gazexport, although they will definitely not answer openly there. There is also Yamal, which was turned off due to Polish intrigues - Europe for 32 billion cubic meters. m, there is the Turkish Stream, which is loaded to the very worst, where the capacity is only 31,5 billion cubic meters. m.

And there is also the forgotten, but still capable Urengoy - Pomary - Uzhgorod, designed for 28 billion cubic meters. m. It is he who today saves adequate Hungary from the cold, but constantly remains under various kinds of threats. It must be recalled that back in 2021 there were explosions, with subsequent showdowns in the Kyiv top.

Where are you from - we are from Yamal


Under the conditions of the forced shutdown of the Nord Stream, Gazprom is currently simply forced to actively reorient its export flows to other regions of the world. But we must not forget that the majority of Asian consumers will have to deliver blue fuel from Russia in liquefied form.

Where? From Yamal? The reserves there, of course, are colossal, but you yourself understand that you cannot send a lot from there by gas tankers. At the moment, we can talk about no more than 16–17 million tons of LNG, or 22–23 billion cubic meters. m per year. And these are several hundred tankers, which also need to be carried out and serviced.


Needless to say, the Northern Sea Route does not operate all year round. However, gas will now also be transported from the new Portovaya LNG complex in the Gulf of Finland. This is exactly where the Nord Streams begin.

On Tuesday, the Pskov tanker, capable of delivering about 100 million cubic meters of gas in the form of LNG, completed loading with liquefied gas there. However, it is very important now to remove the problem of piloting it through the Danish straits - the Kattegat and the Skagerrak, where Russia was generally left without pilotage.

The first target of Pskov is the Egyptian Port Said, where the ship should arrive by September 26. Then the vessel will proceed further through the Suez Canal, and it is likely that India will become one of the main consumers of Russian liquefied gas.

The liquefied gas terminal at Portovaya was launched almost immediately after the shutdown of Nord Stream. The capacity of the facility is about 1,5 million tons of liquefied gas per year, which corresponds to more than 2 billion cubic meters. m. As you can see, Portovaya cannot completely remove Gazprom's problems with exports, but still.
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  1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 19 September 2022 16: 07
    +6
    The US is destroying the EU with puppets in the government.
  2. Dartanyan
    Dartanyan 19 September 2022 16: 14
    -10
    Why do we need LNG?!?! It’s better to buy a couple of football clubs or yachts, let the decaying west have LNG, we will hold out anyway
    1. Il'nur
      Il'nur 20 September 2022 06: 10
      +2
      Your sarcasm was not understood and downvoted ...
  3. bk0010
    bk0010 19 September 2022 16: 14
    +6
    From across the ocean, so far, one has not heard statements like “they are to blame,” or “we suggested that you build terminals ahead of the curve.”
    Terminals are half the battle. Where to get so many gas carriers?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 19 September 2022 16: 30
      +4
      Quote: bk0010
      Where to get so many gas carriers?

      I was told here half a year ago that in the fall we would build ships at the Nikolaev shipyards.
      1. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 19 September 2022 16: 53
        +3
        Nikolaev shipyards - practically destroyed - they must be restored for at least a year
        provided that the front leaves - but he doesn't leave
        1. TiRex
          TiRex 20 September 2022 03: 42
          -1
          3-4 years to restore them, and even change all the industrial equipment
    2. Galleon
      Galleon 19 September 2022 16: 31
      +3
      The US has 76 LNG carriers. Faithful Japan also has its own fleet
    3. Luminman
      Luminman 19 September 2022 17: 19
      +4
      Terminals are half the battle. Where to get so many gas carriers?

      In addition to terminals and gas carriers, we also need gas liquefaction plants, but there are not enough of them ...
    4. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 19 September 2022 19: 24
      +1
      Quote: bk0010
      Where to get so many gas carriers?

      the construction of gas carriers will give impetus to the decaying economy of Europe smile In general, I believe that if you think ahead for a couple of generations, then nothing at all to anyone !!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 19 September 2022 21: 28
        0
        I agree with you, but no, the bourgeoisie will deceive again request
  4. Galleon
    Galleon 19 September 2022 16: 18
    +16
    I talked about this 10 days ago, here is my comment...

    The war in Ukraine is most beneficial to the United States. They are driving LNG to Europe at wonderful prices, and the military-industrial complex is launching all the capacities, just have time to count the money. Have prices gone up in America? Who are they scratching, these prices? This is what they tell us.
    As an analogy, the first world war, beneficial to the British Empire, is recalled. Indistinct, viscous, obtuse, but three empires grappled on the mainland - as if they weren't there.
    Who unleashed this current war is not at all interested in its speedy end. The longer it continues, the more countries and their vital forces will be weakened. Until complete destruction. Our leadership fully follows this paradigm. There is nothing worse than sending small forces of a large, strong army one after another against a weak enemy. Kadyrov's request to the Kremlin to "allow me to finish" is the cry of an honest Caucasian, and indeed of any Russian soul.
    Dragging out a war that "has not yet begun" (by the way, they themselves let it slip) is a disastrous path. And we are confidently and persistently led along it.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 19 September 2022 16: 55
      +13
      So the further I go, the stronger the feeling that the true goals of what is happening are very different from those declared .. And by all sides.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 19 September 2022 17: 23
        +5
        What a feeling there is - the chains of actions and goals achieved lead to these conclusions.
        It is a big mistake to consider someone up there narrow-minded or stupid. These people have reached the heights of power, their mind is sophisticated, they do not know pity, prohibitions and morality. It is democracy that brings such a contingent to the rulers.
    2. Sheridan
      Sheridan 19 September 2022 17: 05
      -12
      Your Excellency? And you are not stupid, as it were.
  5. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 19 September 2022 16: 19
    +1
    The US gas reserves are 11-12 trillion cubic meters, and they produce 900 billion cubic meters a year.

    How long will they be able to provide gas to Europe?

    No, not for long, they themselves consume a lot of gas. Maybe they'll find something else, but it's not certain.

    Russia's reserves are more than 50 trillion cubic meters of gas, this is what is owned by companies and is being developed.
    1. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 19 September 2022 17: 03
      +2
      And in addition, they destroy their own land by mining shale gas.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 19 September 2022 17: 57
        0
        to this there is also an increase in earthquakes (and with them, and so lately on the planet somehow), so what can this turn out to be ...
    2. Disant
      Disant 19 September 2022 17: 31
      +7
      The US gas reserves ..... Russia's reserves are more ....

      this is a good comment.
      but for five or ten years they will pop, then something else will turn up from the bowels of their country, and not only theirs.
      the world show will continue as long as the world counts in dollars, and not in hard currency, even gold, even vodka
  6. What a
    What a 19 September 2022 16: 30
    -1
    Immediately it was necessary to rely on LNG, and not pull the SP-2. Yes, close SP-1, the task is to make gas expensive for Europe and reduce competitiveness. But there were quite a few wise men for SP 1,2. Everything could have been done if an agreement had been reached with Trump.
    1. kot423
      kot423 19 September 2022 16: 38
      +4
      Quote: Che for
      . Everything could have been done if an agreement had been reached with Trump.

      Nu-nu ... There were already "contractors", a stain and a drunk, how it ended - the sane are aware of it. You - apparently not, if, as a naive Chukchi boy, you seriously offer such crap ...
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 19 September 2022 16: 56
      +3
      If we are to spend that kind of money, then it is to build a pipe connecting our classical fields with pipelines to the east ..
      1. Disant
        Disant 19 September 2022 17: 42
        +6
        If we are to spend that kind of money, then it would be to build a pipe connecting our classical fields with pipelines to the east.

        Paul, a pipe to the east will lead to the same situation as in the west - to monopolization of the buyer's market and further down the list - energy packages and an attempt to set conditions for the seller of gas.
        liquefied gas + own fleet makes it possible to supply gas to ANY point in the world
  7. Cheerock
    Cheerock 19 September 2022 16: 37
    +15
    We screwed up polymers, we don't sell gas to the enemy, Putin blew it! good
    The author does not want to say about several things and will not say, namely:
    - Until 2021, Gazprom created a gas surplus in the European market and flooded Europe with cheap gas in order not to let American LNG into it;
    - As you can see now - all the European splendor of the last 30 years was based on cheap energy from Gazprom;
    - The third energy package and the green deal were designed to make the EU a monopoly buyer and get gas from Russia even cheaper;
    - There is no cheap gas - the price tags for electricity grow in Europe instantly 30 times, and Gazprom has not blocked everything yet. Today, the forecast for the winter is a shutdown of up to 65% of European enterprises.
    But yes, Gazprom is a goof, Putin leaked everything, now we will miss the euros, everything is gone, the Americans defeated Gazprom.
    Do you really think that we have a war with Ukraine and it started only on February 24?
    Before writing about what de Gazprom should now remember about domestic consumers and all that, maybe first you will be interested in Gazprom's programs for gasification and aftergasification within the Russian Federation?
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 19 September 2022 17: 00
      +10
      Why do we need these euros? One hell - almost all the proceeds from gas sales, for some reason, we accumulated in the West .. Avon - more than 300 lard were stolen from us, but the country did not even notice it. It’s clear - the money didn’t go to us .. And now it’s even worse - they also banned buying what we want. So why the hell should we sell raw materials to Geyropa then? At least - in such quantities?
      1. your1970
        your1970 19 September 2022 17: 14
        +2
        Quote: paul3390
        One hell - almost all proceeds from gas sales we for some reason stacked in the West..

        Let me humbly remind you that 60% (!!!!) the budget of the Russian Federation was given by the FCS and mainly these are export duties on hydrocarbons ....
        So do not talk about "all the proceeds"
      2. Cheerock
        Cheerock 19 September 2022 17: 15
        +1
        Quote: paul3390
        Why do we need these euros? One hell - almost all the proceeds from gas sales, for some reason, we accumulated in the West .. Avon - more than 300 lard were stolen from us, but the country did not even notice it. It’s clear - the money didn’t go to us .. And now it’s even worse - they also banned buying what we want. So why the hell should we sell raw materials to Geyropa then? At least - in such quantities?



        Well, that's how they stopped keeping the proceeds there, calculated the dividends, and went nuts so much that they decided to put them into investments within the Russian Federation. Already positive.
      3. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 19 September 2022 21: 00
        +1
        Pavel, do not buy only barter, we need equipment and machines
    2. Disant
      Disant 19 September 2022 17: 46
      +3
      Are you interested in Gazprom's programs for gasification and regasification within the Russian Federation?

      tell me the increase in consumption volumes after the completion of all after-gasification programs within the country
      1. Cheerock
        Cheerock 19 September 2022 18: 31
        +1
        Quote: Disant
        Are you interested in Gazprom's programs for gasification and regasification within the Russian Federation?

        tell me the increase in consumption volumes after the completion of all after-gasification programs within the country

        And why are you looking only at the additional gasification of the population without industry? As far as I heard, almost the entire volume that was supposed to go under SP2 has already been booked within the country. Too lazy to look, Martsinkevich a couple of months ago painted in detail on planning volumes.
        1. Disant
          Disant 19 September 2022 21: 05
          +3
          gasification of the population without industry?

          I didn’t write about the population as a whole and about the population separately.
          .
          and the numbers - lay down in the studio! otherwise, your speech about pissed off polymers is unaccounted for!
          1. Cheerock
            Cheerock 20 September 2022 18: 33
            +1
            90 billion m3 per year has already been allocated for new pipelines, 20 billion m3 for additional gasification of the population, for new power plants, LNG plants and industry. look for businesses. What is higher is quite enough to replace the reduction in supplies to the EU from the total exports of 155 billion m3 per year. And yet, exports to European countries will not stop completely. It will just get smaller.
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 19 September 2022 16: 47
    +3
    So that's why they choked Nord Stream
    . The point is "clear" that all this is for a long time !!!
    And now the question is ... where will all this lead, how will it end?
  9. yuriy55
    yuriy55 19 September 2022 16: 50
    +12
    What irritates me most of all is the liberal whining that without the export of hydrocarbons to Russia, the arctic fox will come.
    The fact that the United States was deliberately driving Europe into bondage was clear from the hastily concocted Brexit.
    The Soviet Union was under sanctions and amendments for years, and this did not prevent it from becoming the second economy in the world. China, standing with outstretched hand for most of the second half of the twentieth century, achieved leadership at the cost of incredible efforts and sweatshops. North Korea has been in isolation for half a century ... Iran was able to put on stream what the Russian menagers overlooked. Afghanistan gave a kick to the same staffers with their feet, shod in torn American berets.
    What heroic deed has Russia accomplished since 1991? She ate and flushed the entire legacy of the USSR and today it turned out that we can’t do anything without supplying resources (!!!) to ENEMIES.
    The question is, why do we occupy 1/8 of the land? So that 297 dollar millionaires get fat in the country, more than two and a half million officials and 000 people from the Forbes list buy all kinds of crap with Russian (withdrawn from Russia) capital, throwing dust in people's eyes ...
    *****
    Tell me that I'm a whiner, that "everything worked out", that our people have chosen just such a path of development ... Yes, to hell with you !!! If people were happy with what is happening, then there would be no need to fill the broadcast grid of the central channels with information in a circle, there would be no need to organize three-day (and even ten-day) voting and use uncontrollable electronic voting in the last elections to “achieve” popular recognition.
    And I believe less and less the words that we will go to heaven, and they will simply die ... Rather, we will simply die from such a life, and they will puff out their cheeks and rant about the severity of the global crisis and the imposed sanctions.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 19 September 2022 17: 06
      +6
      hastily bungled Brexit.
      Braexit is a purely internal British trouble - when they noticed how quickly - like a chain reaction in a nuclear explosion - the number of parasites coming to England from the EU is growing (the same Romanian gypsies came almost in villages), then with surprise yes found that the collapse of welfare and health care systems was imminent.
    2. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 19 September 2022 17: 08
      -8
      Quote: yuriy55
      What irritates me most of all is the liberal whining that without the export of hydrocarbons to Russia, the arctic fox will come.
      The fact that the United States was deliberately driving Europe into bondage was clear from the hastily concocted Brexit.
      The Soviet Union was under sanctions and amendments for years, and this did not prevent it from becoming the second economy in the world. China, standing with outstretched hand for most of the second half of the twentieth century, achieved leadership at the cost of incredible efforts and sweatshops. North Korea has been in isolation for half a century ... Iran was able to put on stream what the Russian menagers overlooked. Afghanistan gave a kick to the same staffers with their feet, shod in torn American berets.
      What heroic deed has Russia accomplished since 1991? She ate and flushed the entire legacy of the USSR and today it turned out that we can’t do anything without supplying resources (!!!) to ENEMIES.
      The question is, why do we occupy 1/8 of the land? So that 297 dollar millionaires get fat in the country, more than two and a half million officials and 000 people from the Forbes list buy all kinds of crap with Russian (withdrawn from Russia) capital, throwing dust in people's eyes ...
      *****
      Tell me that I'm a whiner, that "everything worked out", that our people have chosen just such a path of development ... Yes, to hell with you !!! If people were happy with what is happening, then there would be no need to fill the broadcast grid of the central channels with information in a circle, there would be no need to organize three-day (and even ten-day) voting and use uncontrollable electronic voting in the last elections to “achieve” popular recognition.
      And I believe less and less the words that we will go to heaven, and they will simply die ... Rather, we will simply die from such a life, and they will puff out their cheeks and rant about the severity of the global crisis and the imposed sanctions.

      So the economy of the USSR was largely tied to the export of hydrocarbons ... and, in accordance, the fall in prices for them finally killed the economy of the USSR.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 19 September 2022 17: 28
        +1
        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
        So the economy of the USSR was largely tied to the export of hydrocarbons ... and, in accordance, the fall in prices for them finally killed the economy of the USSR.

        I will not explain to you what killed the economy of the USSR. Time is short and I don't want to go blind at the keyboard.
        1. alexey sidykin
          alexey sidykin 19 September 2022 19: 00
          -7
          So admit that there is nothing to say ... but I want to get out of the previous comment as they washed it down laughing
      2. kot711
        kot711 19 September 2022 17: 32
        +4
        So the economy of the USSR was largely tied to the export of hydrocarbons.
        Who told you, piskov?

        The share of income from the sale of fuel and electricity (please pay attention - fuel and electricity) in the budget does not actually exceed 10,3% in the most "dependent" years, and on average in the period from 1980 to 1990 was about 8%. Is this the very “oil needle” that people like to talk about so much?
      3. Cheerock
        Cheerock 19 September 2022 17: 37
        +6
        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
        Quote: yuriy55
        What irritates me most of all is the liberal whining that without the export of hydrocarbons to Russia, the arctic fox will come.
        The fact that the United States was deliberately driving Europe into bondage was clear from the hastily concocted Brexit.
        The Soviet Union was under sanctions and amendments for years, and this did not prevent it from becoming the second economy in the world. China, standing with outstretched hand for most of the second half of the twentieth century, achieved leadership at the cost of incredible efforts and sweatshops. North Korea has been in isolation for half a century ... Iran was able to put on stream what the Russian menagers overlooked. Afghanistan gave a kick to the same staffers with their feet, shod in torn American berets.
        What heroic deed has Russia accomplished since 1991? She ate and flushed the entire legacy of the USSR and today it turned out that we can’t do anything without supplying resources (!!!) to ENEMIES.
        The question is, why do we occupy 1/8 of the land? So that 297 dollar millionaires get fat in the country, more than two and a half million officials and 000 people from the Forbes list buy all kinds of crap with Russian (withdrawn from Russia) capital, throwing dust in people's eyes ...
        *****
        Tell me that I'm a whiner, that "everything worked out", that our people have chosen just such a path of development ... Yes, to hell with you !!! If people were happy with what is happening, then there would be no need to fill the broadcast grid of the central channels with information in a circle, there would be no need to organize three-day (and even ten-day) voting and use uncontrollable electronic voting in the last elections to “achieve” popular recognition.
        And I believe less and less the words that we will go to heaven, and they will simply die ... Rather, we will simply die from such a life, and they will puff out their cheeks and rant about the severity of the global crisis and the imposed sanctions.

        So the economy of the USSR was largely tied to the export of hydrocarbons ... and, in accordance, the fall in prices for them finally killed the economy of the USSR.

        Maybe it's enough already to carry this myth to the masses? Until 1985, the USSR budget was consistently in surplus, and the share of all (!) income from foreign economic activity was about 14% of the budget revenues. It became scarce in 1986, but not because incomes fell (they were just growing steadily), but because expenses rose sharply with the advent of Tagged.
        1. alexey sidykin
          alexey sidykin 19 September 2022 19: 02
          -5
          You already agree among yourselves 10 al 15% ...
        2. alexey sidykin
          alexey sidykin 19 September 2022 19: 24
          -4
          Ek how ... but statistics say the opposite, the share of exports of energy and fuel is 31,4% for 75g. and by 87 it was 46,5% very small ... 15% he was at 70g
          1. Cheerock
            Cheerock 19 September 2022 20: 09
            +4
            Quote: Alexey Sedykin
            Ek how ... but statistics say the opposite, the share of exports of energy and fuel is 31,4% for 75g. and by 87 it was 46,5% very small ... 15% he was at 70g

            In the structure of the USSR budget for 1989, the revenue from all foreign economic activity - fourteen%. The maximum was in the early 14s - up to 80%. Quote:
            made a significant contribution to state budget revenues
            customs income. However, in the available statistical collections there is information about its size only for the first half of the 1950s,
            when it was from 2,1 to 3,6 billion rubles. per year, which gave 5-6% of state budget revenues. In subsequent periods, this article in statistical
            collections was absent, and in the calculations the author was forced to include it
            to other income. At the same time, in the collections of the late 1980s, a new item appears as an independent item in the structure of budget revenues - income from foreign economic activity - a component, for example,
            in 1988, 62,6 billion rubles. (13% of all budget revenues), and in 1989 -
            RUB 67,1 billion (almost 14%). This article combined customs
            income and export earnings. Unfortunately, highlight the numbers inside it
            only on customs income is not possible.
            Of particular importance for the budget of the USSR, export revenues received
            as a result of sharp changes in world energy prices in 1970-
            e - the beginning of the 1980s, providing the Soviet economy with an influx of "petrodollars". Data on income from foreign economic activity
            in official statistical collections began to appear only
            since 1988. Therefore, according to previous periods, to judge the volumes
            this indicator can only be based on indirect data. Expert assessments
            speak of a gradual increase in the share of income from foreign economic
            activities, starting from the end of the sixties, from about 10-12%
            of the total income to 18-20% in the early eighties.
            According to S. G. Sinelnikov, the growth of this type of income in the 1970s - the first half of the 1980s was associated with an increase in exports
            energy carriers, and the subsequent decrease in the share of this indicator in
            second half of the 1980s due to a sharp drop in world prices
            for oil [Sinelnikov, 1995, p. four]
            Bakanov S. A. State budget of the USSR in 1950-80s: dynamics and structure of incomes / S. A. Bakanov // Scientific dialogue. — 2021

            PS. But at the same time, even despite the fall in energy prices, the revenue part of the USSR budget grew steadily by 2% per year approximately.
            1. alexey sidykin
              alexey sidykin 20 September 2022 06: 32
              -2
              So, by the end of the 80s, the share of the energy sector of exports fell ... which, coupled with the fall in world oil and gas prices, crippled the budget of the USSR ... before pathetically declaring the growth and non-growth of the USSR budget, take the trouble to find out what the dispute is about. We now also have no deficit in the budget, and there are no debts such as in the USSR.
              1. Cheerock
                Cheerock 20 September 2022 12: 40
                0
                Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                So, by the end of the 80s, the share of the energy sector of exports fell ... which, coupled with the fall in world oil and gas prices, crippled the budget of the USSR ... before pathetically declaring the growth and non-growth of the USSR budget, take the trouble to find out what the dispute is about. We now also have no deficit in the budget, and there are no debts such as in the USSR.

                The dispute is that the economy of the USSR allegedly collapsed solely from the fact that oil prices fell. Take the trouble to trace the dispute to the very beginning. hi
                1. alexey sidykin
                  alexey sidykin 20 September 2022 13: 24
                  0
                  This is one of the reasons and, as I wrote above, the fall in oil prices finished off the economy of the USSR. And yes, this is the long-term effect of the Kosygin-Lieberman reform
                  1. Cheerock
                    Cheerock 20 September 2022 13: 40
                    -1
                    Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                    This is one of the reasons and, as I wrote above, the fall in oil prices finished off the economy of the USSR. And yes, this is the long-term effect of the Kosygin-Lieberman reform

                    That is, the collapse of the CMEA and the country did not finish off, but oil prices finished off? belay
                    1. alexey sidykin
                      alexey sidykin 20 September 2022 13: 47
                      -2
                      Look at the statistics over the years ... it is quite accessible. I've provided numbers here. They are just from the USSR State Statistics Service.
            2. alexey sidykin
              alexey sidykin 20 September 2022 07: 32
              -3
              Quote: CheeRock
              the revenue part of the USSR budget grew steadily by 2% per year

              Well, yes, it remains only to notice due to what ... for example, the State Statistics Service for 86-87 (RSFSR) noted. Share of income in %:
              Value added tax 1986 - 37,9% 1987 - 42,2% of which payments by state-owned enterprises 86 -22,1% 87- 20,5% ... agro-industry 86- 5,1%, 87- 4,8%.. but income tax at 86 -9125,9 and at 87 -9574,3.
              State duty 86 - 264,2 and in 87 -297,0, etc.
              1. Cheerock
                Cheerock 20 September 2022 13: 01
                -2
                What's the difference. The growth of the tax base by shifting from one state pocket to another. The enterprises were state-owned. What does the price of oil and the collapse of the economy have to do with it? The economy could work for another 100 years, if they didn’t destroy the CMEA, and then the whole country
                1. alexey sidykin
                  alexey sidykin 20 September 2022 13: 28
                  -2
                  Well, yes ... what's the difference from what the income comes from, from taxes from the population or from income from the products of enterprises and industries ... well, there’s no difference, considering that the increase in taxes did not provide for an increase in wages.
                  1. Cheerock
                    Cheerock 20 September 2022 13: 34
                    -1
                    Demagogy. The fall in oil prices did not cause a critical collapse of the USSR budget (due to the non-critical impact on the size of the budget) and a fall in its revenue, and therefore, is not the cause of the collapse of the USSR economy.
                    1. alexey sidykin
                      alexey sidykin 20 September 2022 13: 42
                      0
                      Quote: CheeRock
                      Demagogy. The fall in oil prices did not cause a critical collapse of the USSR budget (due to the non-critical impact on the size of the budget) and a fall in its revenue, and therefore, is not the cause of the collapse of the USSR economy.

                      Demogogy is yours ...
                      1. Cheerock
                        Cheerock 20 September 2022 18: 16
                        -1
                        Well, prove with numbers that the fall in oil prices brought down the economy of the USSR, led to hyperinflation, defaults, and a halt in the economy. So far, you are only showing the structure of the export and nothing else. In fact, the economy began to be destroyed by a sharp thoughtless increase in the expenditure side since 1986 for "acceleration and development." One car factory in Yelabuga was worth something. How many factories were there?
            3. solar
              solar 20 September 2022 09: 19
              0
              In the structure of the USSR budget for 1989, the revenue from all foreign economic activity is 14%.

              It is necessary to look at the structure of income from foreign economic activity.
              Foreign economic activity brought in foreign currency (not all, of course. The one that was oriented towards the West, which primarily referred to the sale of energy carriers. CMEA traded not for currency, but with developing countries, in general, on credit.)
              The USSR was in dire need of foreign currency to buy in the West what we, for some reason, could not do ourselves.
              Therefore, while formally not occupying a large percentage in the structure of income (especially if the dollar is converted into 60 kopecks), the influx of foreign currency played a crucial role in our economy.
              1. Cheerock
                Cheerock 20 September 2022 13: 37
                -1
                It is not necessary, because we are now talking about the economy as a whole. But now the destruction of the CMEA, the rupture of production chains, supplies and sales - all this began to destroy the economy of the USSR. And the collapse of the country with the destruction of all industrial and trade and economic ties finally finished off.
                PS. We expect the same fate for the EU next year.
                1. solar
                  solar 20 September 2022 16: 14
                  0
                  The jump in oil prices in 1973 led to the strengthening of the role of the raw material sector in the economy: the turnover of foreign trade of the USSR increased by 1970 times between 1975 and 2,3[8], while fuel exports, which in 1970 amounted to 15,6% increased by 1987 to 46,5% (if in 1970 the share of machinery and equipment in exports was 21,5%, by 1987 it had fallen to 15,5%).

                  The CMEA collapsed when the USSR tried to transfer it to payments in foreign currency instead of transferable rubles.
                  the last historic session of the CMEA in 1990 in Sofia. The Soviet delegation was headed by Nikolai Ryzhkov. He calmly declared that trade for transferable rubles between the CMEA countries was being stopped. The currency should be the dollar, and the price for any product should not be lower than the world price. The people in the hall were confused. The stunned Czech delegation declared: “But in this case we will have to withdraw from the CMEA?!” And Ryzhkov replied: “Well, get out. Yes please!"

                  We expect the same fate for the EU next year.

                  The EU has a single currency, they do not have this problem.
                  1. Cheerock
                    Cheerock 20 September 2022 18: 07
                    -1
                    The jump in oil prices in 1973 led to the strengthening of the role of the raw material sector in the economy: the turnover of foreign trade of the USSR increased by 1970 times between 1975 and 2,3[8], while fuel exports, which in 1970 amounted to 15,6% increased by 1987 to 46,5% (if in 1970 the share of machinery and equipment in exports was 21,5%, by 1987 it had fallen to 15,5%).

                    And what follows from this? That the reduction in the share of revenues from all foreign trade to the budget by 4%, with an increase in the budget itself, killed the economy of the USSR? Are you not funny yourself? ))))
                    The EU has a single currency, they do not have this problem.
                    They have another problem - the risk of stopping the industry. And the only way to get out of the team that is rushing into the abyss is, in fact, to get out of the team.
                    1. solar
                      solar 20 September 2022 21: 58
                      0
                      It is necessary to look at the structure of income from foreign economic activity.

                      I same wrote- foreign trade foreign trade strife.
                      Most of the exports went to the CMEA countries, which did not provide an influx of foreign currency, which the USSR badly needed.
                      The developed capitalist countries provided the currency, and they accounted for a small part of exports.
                      The surge in oil prices in 1973, and then the Iran-Iraq war with an even greater increase in oil prices, put the country on an oil needle. The price of oil began to fall in the 80s, and the USSR, accustomed to receiving foreign currency in a simple way, found itself in a difficult situation, and began to look for an opportunity to increase oil revenues - the country could no longer do otherwise.
                      An attempt to transfer trade from the CMEA to the currency ended in the collapse of the CMEA.
                      They have another problem - the risk of stopping the industry.

                      Why did it happen? They are based on high-tech production.
    3. your1970
      your1970 19 September 2022 17: 17
      0
      Quote: yuriy55
      more than two and a half million officials

      Cut the sturgeon by 1.5 million...
      Quote: yuriy55
      For 297 dollar millionaires to fatten in the country,

      The representative of which was a candidate from the Communist Party belay recourse in the presidential election...
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 19 September 2022 17: 34
        0
        Quote: your1970
        Cut the sturgeon by 1.5 million...

        You're right. The sturgeon turned out to be big. information needs to be verified. Thanks for the hint. Here is the result:
        The latest data on the number of civil servants in Russia is published in a report on the Rosstat website. The report was made as of the end of June 2021. The total number of employees and workers in the category "Public administration, military security, social security" is 3303.9 thousand people. If we remove the regular number of servicemen and civilian personnel of the Armed Forces from this indicator, then the number of officials is 1400 thousand people.

        https://gogov.ru/articles/population-ru/gov
        True, I don’t know whether to consider employees of banks, infrastructure and other brethren who have a seal as hard workers? Advocacy, judges - these are definitely employees ...
        Even according to official statistics, “sturgeon” should be cut by 1 million ...
        Yes, less...laughing hi
        1. your1970
          your1970 19 September 2022 18: 21
          +1
          Quote: yuriy55
          bank employees

          Quote: yuriy55
          Advocacy

          Hmm .... actually it is commercial(!!!) organization
          And yes
          Quote: yuriy55
          "Public administration, military security, social security"

          They threw out only the army and its civilians, forgetting to remove the FSB and social security (which are municipalities).
          There are currently 960 civil servants ...
          In secret - for example, people regularly come with questions to the tax office - that's it, no, bye ... there are 5 departments of the Federal Tax Service for the region out of 36 districts.
          The nearest one is 200 km...
          Regpalat left 14...

          Well, by the way, if you are bank employees and lawyers - employees belay belay belay ......
          1. yuriy55
            yuriy55 19 September 2022 18: 34
            +1
            Quote: your1970
            Well, by the way, if you are bank employees and lawyers - employees

            Yes... Employees...
            The statistics are not mine, but from the state site. There is a link there.
            https://gogov.ru/articles/population-ru/gov
            Open and read.
      2. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 19 September 2022 20: 41
        +1
        Quote: your1970

        The representative of which was a candidate from the Communist Party belay recourse in the presidential election...

        The words "election" and "candidate" should be put in quotation marks. hi
        1. your1970
          your1970 19 September 2022 21: 08
          +4
          Quote: Beringovsky
          Quote: your1970

          The representative of which was a candidate from the Communist Party belay recourse in the presidential election...

          The words "election" and "candidate" should be put in quotation marks. hi

          Rather, the letter "K" in the name of the party
  10. flicker
    flicker 19 September 2022 16: 55
    +2
    Another whine.
    Yes, it makes no sense for us to sell this gas in the EU. We can't really buy anything with dollars and euros. So why are we selling them gas and oil?
    In general, we need to switch to barter with them: gas in exchange for any goods we need, and not for these empty "papers". No, it means to stop trading with them altogether.
    1. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 19 September 2022 17: 09
      -4
      In general, we sell for rubles there and not for euros and dollars ...
      1. flicker
        flicker 20 September 2022 14: 59
        -2
        In general, we sell for rubles there and not for euros and dollars
        The essence of this changes little.
        They buy rubles on the St. Petersburg exchange and this currency remains in our country (while earlier our currency was kept in the same Europe).
        But this doesn’t make it any easier for us, since we can buy almost nothing with this currency.
        Well, why do we need such a currency?
        In order for us to benefit from the sale of gas and oil in the West, we need to switch to barter. We give you gas, you give us medicines or machines, etc.
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 19 September 2022 18: 36
      +2
      Quote: flicker
      In general, we need to switch to barter with them: gas in exchange for any goods we need, and not for these empty "papers". No, it means to stop trading with them altogether.

      So it was in the Middle Ages. Or paid in gold. laughing
      1. flicker
        flicker 20 September 2022 15: 01
        0
        Or paid in gold
        Everything seems to go there
  11. fiv
    fiv 19 September 2022 17: 06
    +1
    Hydraulic fracturing technology is not a very environmentally friendly thing. And the United States can increase production only with its help. They put a bomb under the well-being of the future population. Good luck.
  12. DeGreen
    DeGreen 19 September 2022 17: 15
    -1
    VO is turning yellow day by day .. Such fakes are already being printed, you are amazed
  13. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 19 September 2022 17: 16
    +3
    In order for the United States to completely replace Gazprom, they need to make 1500 - 1700 LNG tanker flights per year. And this should act like a Swiss watch. They resell. As soon as China wakes up, gas carriers will go to it. The market, however.
    1. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 19 September 2022 19: 10
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      They resell. As soon as China wakes up, gas carriers will go to it. The market, however.

      Just like it did this spring. drinks
  14. ivan2022
    ivan2022 19 September 2022 17: 35
    +4
    Quote: Alexey Sedykin

    So the economy of the USSR was largely tied to the export of hydrocarbons ... and, in accordance, the fall in prices for them finally killed the economy of the USSR.

    Then explain how it was "Gaidar saved the country" at the beginning of 1992, and after Yeltsin's decree on market prices, everything immediately appeared that did not seem to exist in the "killed" USSR? Where did everything come from?

    You understand that if the economy is "dead", then it is dead. And there can't be a wonderful Sunday in two weeks?

    And why did the "killed" USSR in 1988 rank number 26 in the international ranking of living standards, and now, after 20 years of "getting up from its knees" by the Russian Federation, with its gigantic wealth and prices, it ranks 65 next to Ukraine and Colombia?

    Compatriots are strange people. They seem to be "patriots", but they talk like liberals and believe that "Chubais and Gaidar saved the country. The murdered USSR",
    they are for justice and against "who does not work, do not eat", they are for "separate, enough to feed them", and for "return our lands". And the devil knows what they have in their heads. Therefore, the mess in the country, as in their brains.
    1. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 19 September 2022 19: 06
      -5
      It's very simple ... you seem to have forgotten about the trains clogged with "shuttle carriers". They pulled it out. And where did you find references to Chubais and Gaidar?
      1. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 19 September 2022 21: 33
        +1
        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
        It's very simple ... you seem to have forgotten about the trains clogged with "shuttle carriers". They pulled it out. And where did you find references to Chubais and Gaidar?

        And how did they save us, Piano alcohol and Chupachups? Or was it the shuttle traders who brought tens of millions of tons of grain, sugar, milk, etc.? You write nonsense.
        1. alexey sidykin
          alexey sidykin 20 September 2022 07: 11
          -2
          One more... get away from me with your Gaidaro-Chubaysiks.
  15. TIR
    TIR 19 September 2022 17: 36
    +3
    The United States will benefit not so much from gas as from manufactured goods. After all, the USA and Europe occupy the same niche in the sales of goods and they are direct competitors. Only they sell science-intensive goods. The same China trades mainly in lower quality and less breakthrough goods. So by shutting off gas, metals and oil for Europe, the states actually raise the cost of European goods. This means that an American product for buyers will be much cheaper than a European product with the same quality. The US is crushing Europe
    1. Poplar
      Poplar 19 September 2022 21: 33
      +3
      I'll add my 3 cents. That's right, the benefit of the states is not in the sale of LNG, since the profits there, given the cost of production, liquefaction and delivery, are not so sky-high. I can’t break down the entire economy, because I’m just too lazy to poke around in numbers, but I know for sure that LNG is more expensive than a “pipe”. And the benefit, yes, is the increase in the cost of European goods, plus a decrease in the income of the Russian Federation from gas exports to Europe.
      1. TIR
        TIR 19 September 2022 22: 03
        +5
        Plus, the American military-industrial complex will profit a lot. And so the United States has been strangling Europe a little for 15 years. And by the hands of the Europeans themselves. The bet on suffocation through the blockade of energy resources for Europe has been working for a long time. All these local wars around Europe were either to defeat the countries exporting oil or gas, or against countries through which supply routes are possible. Libya, Syria, Iraq could flood Europe with oil and suffocate with gas, but these countries destroyed the states. Ukraine, the Baltic States, Poland stand on the pipe and with the complete subordination of the United States. It is vital for Americans to strangle Europe economically for their own dominance, otherwise China will crush them in 15 years
      2. TIR
        TIR 19 September 2022 22: 09
        +2
        Turkey is generally a powerful gas hub to Europe, but they feed the poorer southeast of Europe. So the attack on Turkey is not in the priority plans, although they tried to dump Turkey into chaos. I think Erdogan will not last even 3 years in office, when Turkey will be thrown into a religious and civil war, and NATO peacekeeping forces will only consolidate chaos and uncertainty following the example of Afghanistan
  16. Negruz
    Negruz 19 September 2022 17: 53
    +2
    It was American producers who did not make noise, like ours with Nord Stream, but simply plowed.

    German environmentalists, Polish, Baltic and Ukrainian authorities were noisy with the northern streams ....
    The authors misunderstood something ....
    1. frog
      frog 20 September 2022 13: 21
      -2
      Something? You were being modest repeat but they have a tradition...
  17. samarin1969
    samarin1969 19 September 2022 17: 54
    +2
    What a touching concern for the interests of Gazprom! Just a speech at a shareholders' meeting! ...Let the gas kings reduce their appetites. There are even countries that do not sell gas at all. And what do these miserable "Belgians" live on? ... recourse
  18. Wildcat
    Wildcat 19 September 2022 18: 17
    -2
    Nice article.

    You just need to understand that "The main thing is that Gazprom, one way or another, will have to, following the example of the oilmen, remember their homeland. And seriously deal with the gas supply of the Russian hinterland." This is the author's personal opinion.

    Not only the remote areas, regional cities without gas, where there is a real "black sky", are not gasified. complaints from citizens in connection with the "black sky", recently many messages have come from residents of Minusinsk, who had previously written hundreds of similar messages to the head of Rosprirodnadzor Svetlana Radionova.
    - First of all, of course, on the gasification of regions that do not have mains gas. This is the Krasnoyarsk Territory, the Irkutsk Region. "https://ngs24.ru/text/ecology/2022/01/21/70390649/
    This is not out of harm, but for economic reasons "profitable, not profitable."

    So "the US will enter the EU gas market" is true, but "well, now we are all gasified" is not true.

    Well, the authors fantasize a little: "It is, of course, possible to increase the capacity of the Power of Siberia fairly quickly."

    And also, the authors protect the nerves of readers, not giving forecasts about the fall in oil and gas production (in physical and monetary terms) and not giving forecasts about falling incomes of the Russian Federation,

    In general, the article is normal, the authors even worked with production and export data! hi
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 19 September 2022 18: 44
      -1
      Quote: Wildcat
      And seriously deal with the gas supply of the Russian hinterland. This is the personal opinion of the author.

      And at the level of the state (state-owned companies) to determine the prices in the domestic market (including prices within the union state) and external, and not to stare about world prices. We live in our own country, and not in a ghostly world where prices are determined by bourgeois exchanges ... Let the dollar and the euro cost 60 kopecks each ...
      1. Wildcat
        Wildcat 19 September 2022 20: 54
        -1
        And at the state level (state-owned companies) to determine prices in the domestic market
        tried.
        By 1991, buying toilet paper and/or vodka was a joy. Although coupons for vodka gave at least some guarantee for 2 bottles per month, in some regions it was necessary to carry the container with you to the store.
        Hope we can't do it again.
        On the topic "Deputy representatives of the Government of the Russian Federation Victoria Abramchenko and Alexander Novak discussed the gasification of the regions of Siberia, Abramchenko told about this on her Instagram." - IMHO, now there will definitely not be money for gas in Krasnoyarsk, we need to help other territories. Yes, and Instagram is no longer in the Russian Federation either, like gas in Krasnoyarsk, Instagram is banned.
        1. yuriy55
          yuriy55 20 September 2022 04: 25
          +3
          Quote: Wildcat
          tried.

          What did you try there? Have you tried to stop production in the country with threats and money for the “noble” reason for the repair (modernization) of enterprises? The producers did not know where to sell agricultural products, and the organizers cut down the vineyards...
          You have already been shown “in kind” how you can artificially create a deficit and raise prices EVEN for salt, which is SHAFTERED ...
          The cheapness of bread and the lack of compound feed on sale made it possible to feed cattle with bread and steal compound feed from farms where cattle (birds) did not receive their ration ...
          Stop telling tales about the dangers of socialism here. Tell tales about betrayal in the highest echelons of power in the USSR, about the legitimization of the State Migration Service of speculation and the lack of control over financial flows. Revisit "Tender May". It clearly shows how it was possible to turn things around. if you are the nephew of "SELF". Tell us how the KGB officers allowed a criminal coup in the country and the demolition of a monument to their creator.
          *****
          As for toilet paper... It was necessary to use cellophane packaging more widely, print less political literature and newspapers that duplicate Pravda articles.
          ECONOMY SHOULD BE ECONOMIC, not speculative. then everything will be.
          As for vodka - in restaurants and cafes it was in bulk, though the price was many times higher. Remember the hype around "washers" and other "sources" of draft beer. And just something and it was necessary to look at the Czechs and Germans ways of conservation. Plants built in Mongolia produced long-life beer in the 70s. And in Moscow, Czech beer was on the line. The opened cooperative pubs always had beer. True, it cost us not 28 kopecks of a mug, but a ruble. This is how unobtrusive capitalist service came to us.
          1. Wildcat
            Wildcat 20 September 2022 13: 48
            -1
            Okay, okay, let me give you a plus?
            And I will write that we will be able to repeat developed socialism (especially since there are all chances)?
            And you write something else!
            I especially liked the advice about revising Tender May and the story about cellophane / toilet paper!
            1. yuriy55
              yuriy55 20 September 2022 14: 58
              0
              Quote: Wildcat
              And you write something else!

              I can write about cellophane bags. Their mass appearance in my city was in the late 60s and early 70s of the last century. It was something. Cellophane packaging did not get wet, did not let in moisture, kept odors. The bags were not thrown away, washed, dried on strings (in the summer - on the balcony) and reused until worn out. Old bags were also used: from them (by burning), they got a black mass, which was poured into spoons of different sizes, drawings were scratched on the surface, toothpaste was rubbed into it and a pendant was obtained.
              Cellophane decomposition time was short. Especially in the world. For example, the film for greenhouses fell into disrepair by the next season.
              *****
              There were no specific "unknown facts" about toilet paper. Her absence was replaced by a chopped old newspaper, napkins and other materials of similar properties. In army life, paper for cleaning weapons was used for this (it hung in rolls in each room for storing weapons) ...
              *****
              The return to socialism should not be frantic, with the repetition of the mistakes of the past. Socialism and social are the same root words. They presuppose the use of the results of society's labor for the benefit of the entire people, the entire country, and not those 0% of the fit ...
              hi
    2. frog
      frog 20 September 2022 13: 31
      -2
      In general, the article is normal, the authors even worked with production and export data!

      Naturally. At the same time, they forgot, for example, to say, and at what, in fact, price, gas from the terribly "Strong Siberia" gets to the neighbors .....
      1. Wildcat
        Wildcat 20 September 2022 13: 43
        0
        Then I would have to write when the money was received .... no need to upset the public ...
        1. frog
          frog 20 September 2022 14: 22
          -1
          Naturally. First - what, and then - when ..... Double frustration wink
  19. ligatura
    ligatura 19 September 2022 19: 37
    0
    So in Europe, we will not be dependent on gas from Russia. We will be dependent on gas from USA. We are also dependent on software and applications and chips from USA. And we also depend militarily on USA. And politically also. And on USA sanctions. Yes this must be that dependency diversification, that our politicians were talking about. To be dependent on one country in diverse matters....
  20. Nord11
    Nord11 19 September 2022 19: 44
    +1
    Well, the United States only has to introduce a complete ban on Russian gas, so that, by analogy with Pennsylvania coal from Donetsk, it can’t sell LNG from Yamal as its own, I can’t democratic ..
  21. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 19 September 2022 20: 45
    -1
    The navel will be untied even in the United States. And the price, with the COMPLETE replacement of the pipe with tankers, will no longer be competitive, but monopoly. Do you think it is more than today or less? So far, no one is going to clean up the pipe. And you can turn on the pump at any time.
  22. Maks1995
    Maks1995 19 September 2022 22: 23
    -3
    Imperialism is in the yard ... the stump is clear, since prices are high - they sell gas ...
    and oil sheiks joyfully fly around the world - either to Moscow or to the USA ...
    Norwegians and Brazilians also happily agree, they wrote ... Even, the Venezuelans somehow stopped appearing in the media ...
  23. AlexHafele
    AlexHafele 20 September 2022 09: 07
    -1
    The sharp rise in gas prices still pleases many of us, although someday it will backfire on Russian consumers as well.

    With proper management - should not.
    External market and internal - different things.
    If a certain volume of gas has ceased to flow to the external, now it is available in greater quantities on the internal.
    1. frog
      frog 20 September 2022 13: 27
      -3
      Oh. We have already been told, explaining the rise in prices for gasoline, that it has fallen in price “over the hill”, and therefore they compensate ... And then it went up in price there and also went up in price here ..... But with gas, this noodles are not so tasty?
  24. Alex D_2
    Alex D_2 21 September 2022 00: 03
    -1
    The United States will simply receive money instead of us, and we will sell to China.
  25. Alex D_2
    Alex D_2 21 September 2022 00: 06
    0
    The "collective West" has an empire more influential and larger than the Russian one, and Russia can only build an empire. And the Ukrainian lands are just the beginning. And it is not yet known how it will all end. There is a possibility that humanity will be greatly reduced.
  26. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 21 September 2022 16: 12
    -2
    So maybe Gazprom should lower prices in Russia (which will cause an increase in consumption). Gas-producing capacities cannot be turned off so easily, but it would be useful for the country!
  27. tacet
    tacet 24 September 2022 16: 33
    0
    US exports of LNG to the EU (80 lard, as the authors indicated for six months) are for some reason considered a constant. I would like to know the reasons for this confidence. In my opinion, this volume will steadily decrease, provided that such prices are maintained and industrial consumers in the EU stop. (Corny, how will the EU pay for it next year?)
    So US leadership is just an episode (a year or two)
  28. And W2
    And W2 28 September 2022 12: 42
    0
    Pipeline breaks (and not only) can be played together. View the formulas of the "partner" states, find bottlenecks. CONVERT LIQUEFIMENT PLANTS INTO COMBUSTION PLANTS, increase competition among partner gas plants. Otherwise, they will not be respected and sabotage will continue. We are on a site protecting the state (read people), and war is the last argument of kings.