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Mercenaries or NATO soldiers? Question for us

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Mercenaries or NATO soldiers? Question for us

We talk a lot about the fact that the counteroffensive was being prepared for several months by NATO headquarters. We write a lot and post photos and videos about the supply of Western equipment to Ukraine. We publish interviews with foreigners who were captured during the fighting in the Donbass. And all this happens at the same time.


I don't understand, why pretend to be fools? We pretend! Most readers of our publication are well aware of what military service is. They not only know, but also understand how much time is needed to train a specialist to work on modern weapons systems.

But the soldiers and officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can master any system not even in months, but in ten days. How many various equipment is at the front today, and all of it not only works, but fights, opposes our tanks and armored vehicles. Not weird? Or maybe the answer is simple, and no one hides it? It is enough to listen to the broadcast in some clashes ...

Mercenaries, are they in the Armed Forces of Ukraine?


Naturally, simple questions arise about who the mercenaries are and whether they are in Ukrainian units. Questions are not idle and require the correct answer. The fact that foreigners are involved in hostilities on both sides has been known to readers almost since the beginning of the conflict. Since the beginning of the NWO, reports of foreign involvement have become commonplace.

Why are these expensive fighters needed at all? Whatever they say about solidarity, about passionate love for Ukrainians and Ukrainian democracy, about the desire to protect the unjustly offended, mercenaries are not philanthropists, but people for whom war is good money, a comfortable life worth risking.

It is clear that no one will hire infantry for big money. Why, if there are free local soldiers? The life of an infantryman, whether a soldier or an officer, is measured by a fairly small number of battles. The platoon commander won back two or three days - it's already good. This applied in the past to all specialists in rifle units.

Grenade launchers, machine gunners, snipers in squads were trained from ordinary soldiers right into the unit. Only mechanics, drivers of infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers were trained in special units. But they were also local, conscripted fighters.

Who could not be trained in combat conditions? First of all, intelligence officers, saboteurs and specialists in foreign weapons and equipment. In addition, the supply of any new “goods” requires the personal presence of a specialist. Even a foreign-made mobile hospital is difficult to master without a specialist. Not to mention the MLRS systems and heavy artillery.

In addition, mercenaries are most often from retirees or people transferred to the reserve for some reason. So, in any case, they do not own the latest, most modern models of equipment and weapons. That is why the first deliveries of American howitzers were not equipped with the latest sights. Why, if no one knows how to use them?

I think this explains the small number of mercenaries who were captured in the first months of the NWO. The wounded and the dead were either evacuated or the corpses were destroyed by burning. I wrote about this before. In any case, the mercenaries who arrived first were not significant support for the UAF.

Snipers, due to more advanced rifles, frayed their nerves, but with the advent of counter-sniper groups in the allied forces, their importance has significantly decreased. Scouts and saboteurs also received a rebuff from the relevant Russian units. The only ones who are still causing trouble for the allies are miners. And even then only because they mine a lot.

NATO army units


During the Ukrainian offensive, we saw a completely different picture. No, rifle units, DRGs and tankers acted mostly in a clear and predictable manner. Today, when the skies are teeming with drones, the actions of almost all DRGs or other units are broadcast live, like in a computer game. If desired, they can be tracked almost around the clock.

But look how gunners and rocketmen operate. How well the crews of air defense systems work. I'm not talking about combat work directly, although who can divide it on the front line into combat and non-combat ... I'm talking about how skillfully both sides use all the advantages of their systems. And this is with well-functioning counter-battery systems and air tracking systems.

A soldier in a trench who decides to call someone on a cell phone receives a personal mine in two to three minutes. And the artillery system, which produces much more "noise", manages to fire two or three shots and change positions before something either arrives there. Paradox? No, the training of the personnel of the calculation of the system.

By the way, this is also the reason why there is no Ukrainian language on the air. Even perfect knowledge of a foreign language lengthens the execution time of an order by almost an order of magnitude. A soldier trained to receive commands in his native language will act faster. Like an officer giving commands.

Now NATO is considering the possibility of supplying more modern systems to Ukraine. I do not think that the widely discussed reason for this - the desire to further arm the Armed Forces of Ukraine - is correctly voiced. NATO, at least the European component of the bloc, simply completely "cleaned up" their arsenals. One of NATO's goals was precisely this. Remove all junk from the arsenals in Eastern Europe.

So, already today our armies are at war with NATO units. In the same high-tech area. MLRS and heavy artillery, air defense and missile defense systems, possibly in the VSS. And with the increase in the supply of such units will become more and more. And they will be hidden less and less, simply because it will be impossible to hide.

I am sure that already today we have evidence that NATO is present directly in Ukraine. There is the name of the units and subunits, as well as the places of their permanent deployment, participating in the battles. But these facts are not voiced for some reasons unknown to us.

NATO against us or...


Naturally, the question of the future arises. Is NATO really preparing to fight Russia? Is a new war inevitable? It is impossible to answer this question with XNUMX% certainty. Europeans clearly don't want war. We, too. But judging by the actions of European governments…

Washington, on the contrary, would like us and the Western countries to shoot each other a little. Especially against the backdrop of a possible US-China conflict. Personally, I doubt this development. And about the beginning of the European war, and about the beginning of the American-Chinese war. Too much at stake...

And Ukraine?.. Everyone is well aware that the Ukrainians have done their job. Another hypothetical competitor destroyed. Nobody wants this country anymore. But they will use the pathological anti-Russian attitude for petty harm to Russia. This means a war to the last Ukrainian with the use of European soldiers, European equipment and weapons.

Washington is already implementing another program. He forms a shock fist in Poland. It is a fist from the armored forces, modern aviation и fleet. So, no one will leave us alone in the coming decades ...

By the way, I think it's time to voice a new slogan "Victory (in Ukraine) or death (of the European Union, and possibly NATO)"! Moreover, death from the cold is closer to spring. Death - in the sense of collapse ...

Maybe it's time to directly point to those whose soldiers are now dying in Ukraine?
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  1. Alexga
    Alexga 20 September 2022 11: 10
    +9
    Mercenaries or NATO soldiers?

    What's the difference? The enemy is that one that that one. And the enemy must be destroyed or captured.
    1. ARIONkrsk
      ARIONkrsk 20 September 2022 11: 52
      +3
      Quote: AlexGa
      Mercenaries or NATO soldiers?

      What's the difference? The enemy is that one that that one. And the enemy must be destroyed or captured.

      Foreigners may not be captured, they can be sent to the forefathers on the spot, otherwise they took some at first, promised to execute and silence ... request
      1. agel26r
        agel26r 22 September 2022 07: 38
        +1
        How is the silence??? let everyone go, and Medvedchuk's addition was thrown
    2. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 20 September 2022 17: 39
      +3
      Quote: AlexGa
      What's the difference? The enemy is that one that that one. And the enemy must be destroyed or captured.
      For the military, this is true, but in political and legal language, this is no longer a declared war and official recognition of such a fact, translates this confrontation into a different format.
  2. igorka357
    igorka357 20 September 2022 11: 21
    +6
    After the phrase "I'm sure we have information about the warring units of NATO, but it is not disclosed," he spat on reading matter. There are no NATO soldiers there, and those that are are fired and "work on their own initiative." It seems that he started competently, about mercenaries and instructors, and ended up with entire NATO units, moreover, about which ts-sss .. but Alexander Staver was reported. It has long been clear to everyone that there are hundreds of mercenaries, including NATO ones, but I doubt that they are military personnel of the countries of the bloc, that they do not go on the attack in formation at the front, that's for sure. As specialists, they may work, but not as whole units.
  3. Lis_Domino
    Lis_Domino 20 September 2022 11: 21
    +5
    I've been saying for a long time, from the very beginning
    The operation must be as quick and as hard as possible. And now the war "until the last Ukrainian" is waged not by the West, but by the GDP with its slowness, some kind of Leopoldism. It is the GDP that does not touch the "decision-making centers" for some murky reason. It is the GDP that gives Kyiv time to mobilize, gives time to train the Armed Forces of Ukraine by NATO instructors. It is precisely the GDP that makes it possible to supply weapons to Kyiv. It is not clear why all this is being done - there is no logical explanation. Muddy conducting NWO with vague goals. It's just that our "non-brothers" - who, it seems, could be re-educated, and our guys are dying on both sides. Who will answer for this?
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 21 September 2022 07: 52
      -5
      That is, is Putin to blame for the fact that the Mykols, who have been bred for 30 years like suckers, continue to fight for the regime that they themselves hate?

      About nonsense about decision-making centers that have not been in Ukraine for a long time, or about how they should disrupt mobilization in the largest country in Europe, I see no reason to ask.
      1. chetvertak
        chetvertak 22 September 2022 01: 44
        -1
        But they didn’t divorce us about 70-80% of the rearmament (modernization) of military equipment? And they also tried to divorce us with the Minsk Treaty. The AP of the GDP, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the State Duma, the Ministry of Defense, the TALK SHOW have divorced us for a lot of things ...
    2. Ryusei
      Ryusei 27 September 2022 08: 41
      +1
      No, they cannot be re-educated, they were taught too well ....
  4. sabakina
    sabakina 20 September 2022 11: 24
    -6
    Mercenaries or NATO soldiers? Question for us
    What question? Is the word "polyanitsa" banned by the UN? Will be able to say, I ask you to the left, captured. No, please turn right, towards the parapet. Or for the parapet. Well, this is how the person being shot will like it.
  5. Mikhail Drabkin
    Mikhail Drabkin 20 September 2022 11: 25
    +2
    Author:

    Maybe it's time to directly point to those whose soldiers are now dying in Ukraine?

    —-Perhaps you are right and former and current NATO military service Western equipment. However, there is no conclusive evidence.

    —- It is possible that the Armed Forces of Ukraine sent a contingent for training in 2021 and earlier, not to mention 2022. This is rather likely.

    —- With all due respect, regardless of intentions, your general message sounds justified ... as an explanation: "Russia is at war with quasi-NATO ... that's the unfortunate state at the front .."
    1. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 20 September 2022 20: 51
      -1
      Quote: Mikhail Drabkin
      —-Perhaps you are right and former and current NATO military service Western equipment. However, there is no conclusive evidence.

      All networks, all publics are crammed with videos with Americans, and not as part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but fighting on their own, in separate units. What more evidence is needed.
      [https://t.me/partizan1941/32579]
  6. Ingushetia
    Ingushetia 20 September 2022 11: 29
    0
    Maybe it's time to directly point to those whose soldiers are now dying in Ukraine?

    What is the actual question? To whom exactly to indicate? What will happen after they indicate (if this has not been done before)? What is this big article about?
    1. Aag
      Aag 20 September 2022 15: 49
      0
      Quote: Ingushetia
      Maybe it's time to directly point to those whose soldiers are now dying in Ukraine?

      What is the actual question? To whom exactly to indicate? What will happen after they indicate (if this has not been done before)? What is this big article about?

      Apparently - if it is quite generalized - it is worth, first of all, to decide for yourself.
      As for pointing out, - it happened many times ... to the "World Community" (if we are talking about him, sneezing !!!). By the way, it is worth clarifying the understanding of the term "world community" ... Are these US puppets in the leadership of the EU countries, the heads of "international" organizations? ...
      Looks like a lot, long gone.
      Oh, colleague, it seems that the whole depth of your comment is contained in the brackets of your message: "... if this has not been done before ...".!
      ... If you are talking about 2014...
      Perhaps I misunderstood your comment ... But, even if so, try to evaluate the events from the point of view ... like me - there are not a few of them ...
      hi
  7. avia12005
    avia12005 20 September 2022 11: 31
    +6
    The longer the SBO lasts, the more deaths we are given.

    Instead of crushing the enemy, slowly biting into his defenses. For more than 7 months, not a single offensive operation. Breakthroughs of the first days do not count.

    If the SVO has a goal at all, then forces and means are allocated to achieve it. But if there is none, and all hope is for some kind of "agreement", then we will see the picture that we see.

    To put the army, NM LDNR and volunteers in a position where they are forced to fight all the time with a numerically superior enemy, and at the same time talk about victory, is fantasy or a deliberate misleading of society. There is, however, another assumption - we are all just stupid.
    1. chetvertak
      chetvertak 22 September 2022 01: 57
      -1
      I agree with the last line! When we began to speak out in the comments about the technical improvements and shortcomings of this or that military equipment, we forgot that we could remain in some category without equipment at all! troops and with the Air Force. It also turns out that we have a terrible shortage of officers, and besides, there are less than 100 thousand planned for 500 thousand contract soldiers. It makes no sense to list. but this happened just from 2016-18, at the moment when everything had to be put on the mobilization of defense enterprises. But our authorities decided to save money on the purchase of weapons, equipment, uniforms for the ground forces. The dollar exchange rate has changed!
  8. Tagan
    Tagan 20 September 2022 11: 32
    -6
    It is NATO, led by Fashington, who is fighting against us. Nuances in the tools.
    This clearly emerges if we take into account whose supply of equipment, ammunition, intelligence, instructors, and training. And even provisions from there. Again, the development of military operations. Plus political and economic confrontation.
    Ukraine, in this whole story, mainly supplies "meat".
    1. Ingushetia
      Ingushetia 21 September 2022 15: 38
      -6
      It is NATO, led by Fashington, who is fighting against us.

      And on the 24th, someone expected another, that on the 21st NWO is no longer NWO?
  9. Engineer
    Engineer 20 September 2022 11: 39
    +12
    Any article about mercenaries should, in theory, begin with a review of documents that determine the status of a mercenary, but why do we need this? This is difficult, and can lead to very different conclusions than the author wants. We have everything according to the concepts of "fairness".
    Why bother with this topic at all? Well, this is also understandable, how can the army of the RF Armed Forces "regroup" in front of the ukrofascists? And in front of NATO, a completely different calico.

    For the forgetful. During the siege of Mariupol, only a lazy propagandist did not write about NATO mercenaries and instructors who settled there. But now Mariupol is taken and .... And silence. Such an awkward one. There are no mercenaries, NATO soldiers and officers among the prisoners. Vzhuh, and a month after the surrender, the intelligence officer Keen Eye and the journalist Sharp Sniff discovered the crematorium in which the Ukronazis burned all the damned foreign criminals. The deep establishment ate and asked for more.

    And if it works, then why not continue?
    1. Usher
      Usher 27 September 2022 20: 30
      0
      Quote: Engineer
      Any article about mercenaries should, in theory, begin with a review of documents that determine the status of a mercenary, but why do we need this? This is difficult, and can lead to very different conclusions than the author wants. We have everything according to the concepts of "fairness".
      Why bother with this topic at all? Well, this is also understandable, how can the army of the RF Armed Forces "regroup" in front of the ukrofascists? And in front of NATO, a completely different calico.

      For the forgetful. During the siege of Mariupol, only a lazy propagandist did not write about NATO mercenaries and instructors who settled there. But now Mariupol is taken and .... And silence. Such an awkward one. There are no mercenaries, NATO soldiers and officers among the prisoners. Vzhuh, and a month after the surrender, the intelligence officer Keen Eye and the journalist Sharp Sniff discovered the crematorium in which the Ukronazis burned all the damned foreign criminals. The deep establishment ate and asked for more.

      And if it works, then why not continue?

      What should have been? They caught some British and killed someone else there. The rest fled or died. What is the problem?
  10. fiberboard
    fiberboard 20 September 2022 11: 44
    0
    Hmm, I think the author is right. Time is gone. 2014 would be the best. But our authorities got scared and started playing multi-move games. Lost, now the soldiers are dying.
    1. Lis_Domino
      Lis_Domino 20 September 2022 12: 23
      -3
      Yes, it was missed, but there was an opportunity - if, as part of the preparation, the grouping in Transnistria was first increased (under any pretext) and after the start of the NMD, it had to go to the western border and take control of the railway and highway Chop Uzhgorod Mukachevo, there are not so many of them and those that did not take - nafig would blow up.
      1. Ingushetia
        Ingushetia 21 September 2022 15: 40
        -3
        yes missed, but there was an opportunity

        I wonder what will happen to the "second chance"? After all, not a single general or official who lowered the CBO down the toilet has been shot so far.
    2. Lis_Domino
      Lis_Domino 20 September 2022 12: 36
      +2
      Yes, they were not afraid - they just blunted. There was a "wise guy" Surkov who proposed two regions of Ukraine (Donetsk-Lugansk) to be crammed into Ukraine with the right to veto accession to NATO. Only it turned out (suddenly) that he is not the smartest. The "Western partners" in their hearts must have been laughing when they gave Poroshenko the command to sign the Minsk agreements because 1. Nobody in the West (respectively, in Ukraine) was going to execute them. 2. Western countries VERY NEEDED time - so that the banderregime had time to brainwash that part of the population of Ukraine that once stood for good neighborliness with Russia. We didn’t need the Minsk agreements; in 2014, the South-East of Ukraine, Nikolaev, Odessa, like Crimea, could be taken away without a shot. The West needed the Minsk agreements. There is one simple truth that our leadership needs to MEMB and write on their foreheads and it sounds like this - the West / USA will NEVER sign an agreement that is not beneficial for itself. like this - NEVER. If you think that you grabbed God by the beard and signed everything - a mistake, sit down and think about where you flew. Consider the implications for the future. For 8 years they killed Russians in the Donbass, burned them in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa - this is part of the consequences.
      1. chetvertak
        chetvertak 22 September 2022 02: 09
        -1
        Montyan talked a lot about this! I understand that under the Minsk Treaty, ours would have to step up the modernization of military equipment! But nothing like this has happened since 2016
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 20 September 2022 12: 13
    -1
    I don't understand, why pretend to be fools? We pretend! Most readers of our publication are well aware of what military service is.
    . Knowing what military service is ... this is not enough !!! In politics, in all the intricacies of events, facts, circumstances, those that exist now, the majority gets confused, lost and ... in general, we are children, ignoramuses who have poked their head into the wrong field!!!
    Here we are jumping, here and there !!! Trying with the help of our knowledge, life experience and ... in general, we are trying to figure it out and far from always, we manage to draw the right conclusions ... alas, alas, everything needs to be learned, and even boiled in a specific environment, so that start more, less, understand what is happening and why!!!
    1. ammunition
      ammunition 20 September 2022 12: 51
      -7
      Quote: rocket757
      Trying with the help of our knowledge, life experience and ... in general, we are trying to figure it out and far from always, we manage to draw the right conclusions ... alas, alas, everything needs to be learned, and even boiled in a specific environment, so that start more, less, understand what is happening and why!!!

      Attempts to figure it out on your own .. and with your own mind - the path to a dead end .. and even to death. Because - "it is impossible for a man, but for God everything is possible!"
      -------------------
      We do not learn from our ancestors .. but again and again we step on the same rake - We try to solve problems with the tension of our little mind .. and our vain strengths. So we found ourselves .. in the most confusing and hopeless (in fact) situation.
      ----------------
      And our ancestors turned with weeping and penitent prayer to the Lord God and to the Most Holy Theotokos! And the Lord God (through the intercession of the Most Holy Theotokos), had mercy .. and then everything was arranged .. and even hopeless situations were resolved.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 September 2022 12: 59
        +1
        Hope in God, but don’t let your brain get moldy ... study, study and STUDY again !!!
        I will not say that then you will be completely happy, a full spoon, but there are more chances than an ignoramus.
        1. ammunition
          ammunition 20 September 2022 13: 07
          -3
          Quote: rocket757
          Hope in God, but don't let your brain get moldy

          "But don't make a mistake yourself" - Yes! So I didn’t write about it .. but I wrote that we are making a fundamental mistake when only by their own forces and reasoning trying to find a way out.
          ------------
          It all started with this .. and the catastrophe of "perestroika" .. and on and on .. And the further - the more hopelessness. Scandalous disputes .. and every "smart" .. like ..
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 20 September 2022 13: 55
            -1
            The USSR was not a country of ignoramuses, but ... something was not enough for people, but something was in abundance. Any extremes are harmful and dangerous, so it was, so it will be.
            I want to recall such an interesting observation ... how can a person who read, understand, remember stories about Henry "The trust that burst" buy into a standard scam like MMM and others like that ??? A bit of mathematics, economics and everything immediately becomes clear !!!
            But also on most of the issues on which our people stumbled during the collapse of the USSR ....
            1. ammunition
              ammunition 20 September 2022 14: 17
              -7
              Quote: rocket757
              The USSR was not a country of ignoramuses, but ...
              ... how can a person ... buy into a standard scam like MMM .... mathematics, and everything is clear !!!
              But also on most of the issues on which our people stumbled during the collapse of the USSR ....

              Isaac Newton is a genius .. and even the finance minister of England. But he also lost almost all his fortune in a primitive scam (20 pounds .. huge money). sad
              Dear Viktor! at least a hundred times Hercules .. at least a hundred times Newton .. if the Lord God does not protect a person, nothing will help.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 20 September 2022 14: 23
                0
                So sho, do I have grace? And, I, after all, an atheist - a materialist, not a militant, really.
                But still, I assume that genetics is good ... memory, curiosity, logic and sanity, plus a reliable Soviet education, that's all the components necessary for a normal life.
                I have never won anything in the lottery, although I have never been fond of such nonsense ... but they gave quite a few lotteries. I never even won a ruble!
                1. ammunition
                  ammunition 20 September 2022 14: 42
                  -6
                  Quote: rocket757
                  So sho, do I have grace? Oh, I'm an atheist - a materialist,

                  The Lord God preserves .. or maybe in your family you had a saint of God and a prayer book, and now he is begging you .. being in Heaven. I don’t know .. and I can’t know.
                  -------------------
                  But I'm not talking about that! Not about that. This is vanity and a departure to the side.
                  I am writing that relying only on your "reasonableness" .. and only on your own strength is disastrous!
                  And I know .. that .. maybe one of the readers will think .. or maybe not a single one. ((
                  In 1941, we had a multiple superiority in tanks and aircraft .. and in artillery. But the first successful offensive was only near Moscow. When we had less tanks and aircraft and other things than Hitler. Because the people began to pray .. and the Most Holy Theotokos implored her Son and our God.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 20 September 2022 15: 21
                    0
                    Icons are kept in the house, this is a memory of dear and beloved people ... but sweets / treats for the brownie / Owner are in a secluded corner!
                    And so, I never confuse FAITH with religion ...
                    Faith, this is normal, for many, it is necessary, but religion and all the attributes accompanying it, it is far and straight from me, not interesting at all.
  12. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 20 September 2022 13: 15
    +2
    It is clear that no one will hire infantry for big money. Why, if there are free local soldiers? The life of an infantryman, whether a soldier or an officer, is measured by a fairly small number of battles. The platoon commander won back two or three days - it's already good. This applied in the past to all specialists in rifle units.

    Grenade launchers, machine gunners, snipers in squads were trained from ordinary soldiers right into the unit. Only mechanics, drivers of infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers were trained in special units. But they were also local, conscripted fighters.
    Some very outdated concepts, probably from the First World War, if not earlier. A good sniper, in general, from God .. and with a machine gun-grenade launcher, everything is not so simple. Such definitions are suitable, except perhaps for militias, or terbats, and not for professional soldiers. I will quote from Highline and his Starship Troopers
    - Everyone thinks that it is enough to have two arms, two legs and a blunt head - and that's it, he is a soldier. Well, good for cannon fodder. Maybe that would have been enough even for some Julius Caesar. But today a real soldier is a specialist of the highest training, who in any other industry would be called nothing more than a "master". We have no right to admit dullards to our craft.
  13. Evgeny_Sviridenko
    Evgeny_Sviridenko 20 September 2022 13: 42
    +1
    The fact that we are not preparing for a nuclear war is bad. No, with missiles, warheads, carriers in Russia, I think everything is fine. But who's to say where he has the nearest prepared bomb shelter? Just as the USSR collapsed, so did the entire civil defense system. Under the USSR, at any more or less large enterprise there were bomb shelters ("Azovstal", for example, will not let you lie). The current "cardboard" enterprises from sandwich panels will also be blown off like a cow with a tongue. So the people (unlike the top management) only go to "paradise".
    1. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn 20 September 2022 15: 32
      +1
      And who said that you have enough space in a bomb shelter. It's only for the elite and valuable professionals
    2. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 20 September 2022 16: 08
      -1
      who's to say where he has the nearest prepared bomb shelter?

      No one knows where the shelters are, as this is a state secret.
      1. Evgeny_Sviridenko
        Evgeny_Sviridenko 20 September 2022 17: 36
        +2
        It’s clear that it’s a secret, because they can’t say that, as always, they stole everything and poherili?
  14. blackcat
    blackcat 20 September 2022 13: 52
    -4
    The problem of mercenaries in Ukraine can be solved very quickly, not a public order not to be taken prisoner and that’s all, otherwise they shake snot on their fist in the courts, I didn’t know, I didn’t want to, and in general a volunteer nurse and they handed me a weapon by force, nonsense in short am
  15. Maks1995
    Maks1995 20 September 2022 16: 44
    0
    All this is just a ploy.
    Such "games" are always played by at least two ...
    PMC Wagner and others registered over the hill - are they volunteers or?
    Any foreigners taken prisoner: volunteers, mercenaries or NATO soldiers?
    The answer has been known for a long time.

    Retirees are taken, or they are dismissed from the service - bang, and they are already volunteers. Or mercenaries. Or PMC,
    Or all together ... They know the weapon, they have mastered the technique, but the money ... will not remain hungry. The pay figures were officially announced for both the Wagnerites, and volunteers from Russia, and the Syrians, and the Brazilians ....

    And the rest of what was described was logically calculated for a long time, if you remove the template from the manuals "no one will stand up for Ukraine, everyone will scatter, they die in togns and soon it will end, no one will give weapons, there will be no visa-free regime, everyone will be stolen, and the fat will end"
  16. Ruslan_Karmanov
    Ruslan_Karmanov 20 September 2022 17: 18
    +1
    Well, in some American media already in August they began to frankly write -is-escalating-the-deep-battlespace-fight-against-russia) that British special forces are in Ukraine. And, allegedly, he is only engaged in "training" the Armed Forces of Ukraine there. And does not participate in battles. You can't check it, but in fact - what's the difference? They are in Ukraine, and what this leads to makes clear the same Vietnam. Where the United States at first got off with advisers, and then it came to a full-fledged war.
  17. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 20 September 2022 18: 20
    -6
    Why understand the Varieties of slops? We only confuse ourselves.
    A citizen of Ukraine is a prisoner of war, Not a citizen is not a prisoner of war.
    If they are NATO soldiers, why bring them under prisoners of war? And the thin line between PMCs and the Army is the subtleties of the contract ... Like we have with Wagner PMCs and contractors. But Ours are fighting in the same order, and those in a foreign country.
  18. iouris
    iouris 20 September 2022 20: 37
    0
    How many times can you repeat the same narrative: mercenaries are the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The US and NATO are at war. The "State of Ukraine" is a simulacrum necessary for these same mercenaries to exist.
  19. runway-1
    runway-1 20 September 2022 21: 11
    -2
    I'm sure today we have evidence that NATO is present directly in Ukraine. There is the name of the units and subunits, as well as the places of their permanent deployment, participating in the battles. But these facts are not voiced for some reasons unknown to us.
    Of course, you can look for a black cat in a dark room where it is not. Especially if you really want to explain the serious problems we have ...
  20. Vicontas
    Vicontas 20 September 2022 21: 57
    -3
    I will repeat again! In order for NATO to stop interfering with Ukraine, an exemplary flogging of one, even the most seedy member of the bloc, is needed! So that, looking at his remains, the "decision-making centers" tried on his fate for themselves. And, having properly guessed, they turned on a sense of self-preservation along with brains! Which of the mercenaries is more in the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Poles, Romanians and the British rule! Here are the candidates for recycling. It is possible to co-opt the Balts, but I would suggest the small British islands. Firstly, they rule, and it is desirable to hit the "attic", that is, the decision-making center - the head! A strike with an uninterceptable "Dagger" or "Zircon" on the buildings of MI-6 and the Ministry of Defense and on military facilities - this will be such a shock that will put the brains of anyone in the right place! And not only in Britain, but throughout NATO and the USA! But it’s better to skip Lisa from the Route - after all, at the head of a hostile state, this is the best way to defeat him! And do not be afraid of the Third World War - seeing what happened to one of the "leaders", others will turn their tails, and sixes can generally splash into the bushes! Especially if you say that the next "gifts" will be with "vigorous" stuffing! But with such mattress power, this can only be a dream! Although the war is already on!
  21. TEX-50
    TEX-50 21 September 2022 07: 28
    +1
    Someone said: "Let them just turn up!" Six months have passed.
  22. EvilLion
    EvilLion 21 September 2022 07: 49
    +2
    Of course, I am wildly sorry, but there are legal definitions, and at the same time, do not forget about Soviet military personnel, especially pilots, who directly participated in hostilities in different years, in which the USSR was not formally a party to the conflict.
  23. AVESSALOM
    AVESSALOM 21 September 2022 16: 03
    -4
    Dispose of foreigners more, do not take prisoners (after interrogation - at an expense). If there is no body, there is no business.
  24. Tagan
    Tagan 21 September 2022 16: 26
    -1
    Quote: Ingushetia
    It is NATO, led by Fashington, who is fighting against us.

    And on the 24th, someone expected another, that on the 21st NWO is no longer NWO?

    I think different options were considered. The evacuation of the civilian population from the Donbass began much earlier than the start of the SVO.
  25. Comrade
    Comrade 22 September 2022 01: 47
    0
    Maybe it's time to directly point to those whose soldiers are now dying in Ukraine?

    To begin with, it would be good to point to those who personally made and are making decisions on the release of captured "Azov" and foreign mercenaries.
    As recently as today I read that a board with ten Western mercenaries made a flight Russia-Saudi Arabia.
    But we were told a hundred times that they cannot be exchanged, only a tribunal and a firing squad. Why did you have to lie to the people in the face?
    And now every potential mercenary sees that even if he is caught in Ukraine, nothing will happen to him, he will be brought by plane to Saudi Arabia or immediately to Ukraine.
    What a shame, damn it, what a shame!
  26. NicholasZ
    NicholasZ 22 September 2022 12: 13
    0
    And those and others. To erase everyone and tell everyone how harmful it is.
  27. Illanatol
    Illanatol 24 September 2022 13: 49
    -1
    Quote: Lis_Domino
    It's just that our "non-brothers" - who, it seems, could be re-educated, and our guys are dying on both sides.


    "Non-brothers" will not be able to re-educate. A good Banderist is a dead Banderist.