The enemy launched another attack on Krasny Lyman, but suffered losses and retreated

After the relative stabilization of the new line of defense of the Russian army along the Oskol River, the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction practically died out. The main forces of the command of the Ukrainian grouping were thrown in the direction of Krasny Liman, where fierce battles go on every day.

According to the information available at the moment, the enemy attempted to attack Liman under the cover of darkness, but again stumbling upon an organized defense, he was forced to roll back, counting the losses. According to yesterday's data, the enemy has concentrated up to two fully equipped battalion tactical groups in this direction, which are supported by two companies tanks. Teroboronists with a total of up to 1 thousand people were also transferred here. Judging by the radio interceptions, a large number of foreigners are heard, Polish and English speech is heard. A pontoon crossing across the Seversky Donets was built in the village of Stary Karavan.

Attacks on the city are ongoing, the last one began at 00:20 and lasted until the morning. Krasny Liman is defended by the BARS-16 unit, better known as the Kuban unit, as well as Lugansk reservists, who have turned into real professionals over these months. Artillery support is carried out by units of the Russian army, and the artillerymen do not allow the enemy to throw all their forces into the assault, covering the attackers.

We are well supported by our Arta! I write with a capital letter, as a sign of respect and timeliness! Artillery of the Russian Army - works wonders in this direction. Well, the Kuban Cossacks and Luhansk citizens are heroes!

- leads the WarGonzo TG channel a message from Krasny Liman.

Earlier, the head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, announced that the enemy was stopped in the Krasny Liman area.

Comments

[Virtual_II]

Thanks to the Oskol River! And Arte, of course.

[NDR-791]

It's still not clear. Does art not reach the pontoon crossing or what? Or is it such a new way to destroy the enemy - only in the forehead?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: NDR-791

It's still not clear. Does art not reach the pontoon crossing or what? Or is it such a new way to destroy the enemy - only in the forehead?

On Sunday, the commander of the Vostok brigade of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), Alexander Khodakovsky, announced the arrival of Ukrainian echelons with personnel and equipment to participate in the battles in the republic. “Echelons with personnel and equipment are arriving in Pokrovskoye, 50 kilometers from Donetsk, one of them was hit by Iskanders at the time of unloading, – he wrote in his Telegram channel.

[Negruz]

What would not tornadoes?

[Hey]

And why did you pull out part of the quote from Khodakovsky's message and, most importantly, kept silent that you missed it.

[neworange88]

Surely art reaches the pontoon crossing, but it seems that more and more new crossings are being put up.

. According to yesterday's information, the enemy has concentrated up to two fully equipped battalion tactical groups in this direction, which are supported by two companies of tanks. Teroboronists with a total of up to 1 thousand people were also transferred here.

In their attacks, the Armed Forces of Ukraine throw conscripts and territorial defense to the first line as cannon fodder. As Russian Spring clarifies, the first to defend the Russian army and allied forces “as meat” are throwing territorial defense and mobilized fighters. They are not called anything other than "meat", the fighters explained. By the second wave of the offensive, mercenaries and special forces are trying to break through. Only the third row are trained militants and ideological leaders, as well as those who show off the flags of Ukraine to the camera.

. We are well supported by our Arta! I write with a capital letter, as a sign of respect and timeliness! Artillery of the Russian Army - works wonders in this direction. Well, the Kuban Cossacks and Luhansk citizens are heroes!

Good luck fellow countrymen Kuban.

[Prometey]

Quote from: neworange88

the first to be thrown into the defense of the Russian army and allied forces "as meat" are the defense and mobilized fighters.

Well, it's always been done that way, since the days of the Roman Republic. The most inexperienced went on the attack first - if they survive - they will gain experience, if they don’t survive - they will exhaust the enemy and the veterans will go further.

[alexey sidykin]

Quote: Prometey

The most inexperienced went on the attack first - if they survive - they will gain experience, if they don’t survive - they will exhaust the enemy and the veterans will go further.

It began with the reform of Maria, the very end of the Republic. And before that, in the forefront were those who could afford good armor ...

[Prjanik]

The untouched stubby crossing quite plays the role of a lure, the direction is known, and apparently the artillery has already fired on it. It's better than picking them out of the fortified areas later

[Plate]

If I were in the place of the enemy, I would not cross over the targeted crossing. You, I suppose, too.

[Prjanik]

So it is, but if there is an order, then they do not spare cannon fodder. And there is euphoria there, Zelya, in theory, should now set the task of driving everyone into the attack, like we are demoralized and all that

[Plate]

Purposefully moving along the targeted crossing is a very strange order. Unless some unrealistic time limits are set, forcing commanders to drive soldiers under bullets.

[Prjanik]

And their deadlines are running out. The loss of Krasny Liman is a tidbit in our defense for the collapse of the front, and it is necessary to strike while the iron is hot, until the units withdrawn from the Kharkov region regroup and we fortify there, - probably this is how they think

[businessv]

Quote: NDR-791

It's still not clear. Does art not reach the pontoon crossing or what?

I think that the guys simply don’t have reconnaissance means, and not even up to it, judging by the situation, and the artillery should have data to strike, that’s why they gait according to the current guidelines from the guys. All questions - to the front command.

[Adrey]

Quote from Virtual_II

Thanks to the Oskol River! And Arte, of course.

Just look at the map searcher for "stars for shoulder straps" (are you not from the General Staff by the way?). The Ukrainian Armed Forces are forcing the Seversky Donets in the area.

[Virtual_II]

You don’t worry about my shoulder straps, you better read the article Comrade. captain

After the relative stabilization of the new line of defense of the Russian army along the Oskol River

The Oskol River covers those who defend Kr. Estuary. If it were not for her, there would be no defense of Liman, fucking commander.

[Boril]

The Oskol River covers those who defend Kr. Estuary. If it were not for her, there would be no defense of Liman,

And there is! The capture of Liman makes senseless the defensive line on the Oskol River. It also makes it possible for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to develop eventual success bypassing Severodonetsk from the rear. It will result in a complete imbalance of the defense and its subsequent collapse. Therefore, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will do everything possible to take Krasny Liman under control.

[Adrey]

Quote: Boril

And there is! The capture of Liman makes senseless the defensive line on the Oskol River. It also makes it possible for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to develop eventual success bypassing Severodonetsk from the rear. It will result in a complete imbalance of the defense and its subsequent collapse. Therefore, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will do everything possible to take Krasny Liman under control.

Dear Boril, don’t you think that if there hadn’t been remnants of our units (rear guards) in the Izyum region, the Oskol River would have provided the left flank of the advancing grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
Yes, and now provides. Parts lagging behind between Oskol and the "shadow of the offensive" on Liman (and in the long term on Svatovo from Kupyansk) in a constant permanent threat of encirclement, which cannot but affect decision-making

[Boril]

Hello dear Andrey!
I agree with you, in fact, depending on the direction of the offensive, the Oskol River is a natural barrier guarding the flanks of the opposing groupings of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Eventual breakthrough of the Armed Forces of Ukraine through K. Liman, put the Russian. units stationed along the Oskol River, south of Kupensk under the threat of weapons. If we look at where the roads are located /their direction is north-south parallel to the Oscola River/, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine will definitely try to take under control, the situation becomes extremely clear. I am 100% sure that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will continue to push north through K. Liman and southwest through Kupyansk. If they manage to break through, a cascade collapse of the entire northern front of the Russians will follow. army. As a result, the further offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be limited only by their physical capabilities and available resources. I think they themselves did not expect such a stunning success. They will be a sin if not developed!

[Adrey]

Quote: Boril

Hello dear Andrey!

Read me down the thread

[Boril]

Read me down the thread

I read it, I completely agree with your conclusions! We are observing a situation in which the Armed Forces of Ukraine have taken the initiative and are increasing the pace. The General Staff of the RVS is trying to catch up, which puts it in a difficult position to react quickly to a rapidly changing, unforeseen situation. It's like in tennis, when the attacker sends the ball left and right on the penalty spot, trying to unbalance / stretch the opponent. In this situation, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not even need to have a numerical advantage in the directions of strikes. We must give Gen. Zaluzhny his due, he is well versed in his business!

[Adrey]

Quote: Boril

I read it, I completely agree with your conclusions!

The situation will be clear today or tomorrow. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine knows what the pace of attack and initiative are

[Adrey]

Quote from Virtual_II

You don’t worry about my shoulder straps, you better read the article Comrade. captain

It’s like I don’t care at all, hamlo you are our

Quote from Virtual_II

The Oskol River covers those who defend Kr. Estuary.

There, first of all, I cover the parts remaining near Raisins

[Virtual_II]

Hamlo you are ours

And what to do if you don’t get drunk otherwise?

There, first of all, I cover the parts remaining near Raisins

But, beyond the Oskol River or behind enemy lines?

[aglet]

"Thanks to the Oskol River"
photo of the tank, it seems, from the month of March. and whose tank should it display - ours, or coming out?

[RaccoonSnake]

Sooner or later, they will take it. Proof of this is all 7 months of NWO.

[Trapp1st]

Sooner or later, they will take it.

Here the kid is already starting to worry about the Crimea, no matter how some next cunning regrouping happens.

[Ivan Fokin_2]

You better worry about Kuev.

[Trapp1st]

You better worry about Kuev.

Why suddenly?

[EvilCommunist]

better not come off taking a fang from your master

[Plate]

All 7 months NVO took Krasny Liman and will they take it again?

[Adrey]

Judging by the stubbornness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine here, the option of a strike on Svatovo from Kupyansk after regrouping and pulling up the rear cannot be ruled out.

[Boril]

Krasny Liman is defended by the BARS-16 unit, better known as the Kuban unit, as well as Lugansk reservists, who have turned into real professionals over these months.

We expect the fall of the Red Liman soon. The defense of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is disorganized, the Armed Forces of Ukraine use the tactics of active maneuver, change the direction of strikes, and do not allow the enemy to come to their senses. This is not a temporary crisis! The crisis began from the very beginning of the NWO and is deepening! This idea itself / the so-called. CBO / was erroneous, uninvented.

[neworange88]

That is, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not have a crisis?

.“Compare the battle for Izyum and Liman, when we defended them. And compare with what was now. And this is what happened: we defended these cities to bloody snot, although it was clear that we could not hold them. And then the command even declared them not so important. The Russians, at the first threat of destruction of their forces, quickly sacrifice the captured city. Thus, although we are advancing, we do not physically destroy the enemy, and at the same time we suffer losses from his bombs and artillery. And this means that the enemy is ALIVE,” write the motorized infantrymen of the 93rd Motorized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/345740/

[novel66]

A pontoon crossing across the Seversky Donets was built in the village of Stary Karavan.

I wonder if a rocket hits it - will it continue to function?

[alexey sidykin]

Considering the physical condition that got into the frames ... he periodically updates it. We beat, they fix, and so on in a circle.

[GNM]

You are not here! (FROM)
From the Kharkiv region, judging by the latest withdrawals without fighting, they left according to the "agreement", and the DPR will be released "blood from the nose."

[huntsman650]

I looked at Sharia, he says they fled, the headquarters was covered and the loss of control

[Vlad_N]

Himself a hereditary Kuban Cossack (ancestors came to the Kuban more than 200 years ago). Kuban Cossacks - well done!
And it would be time to go on a counteroffensive in any of the sectors. Moderate so to speak ardor ukrovoyak.

[Konnick]

Artillery support is carried out by units of the Russian army, and the artillerymen do not allow the enemy to throw all their forces into the assault, covering the attackers.

And in another article "Russian artillery impedes the advancement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Ugledar direction"

Russian gunners methodically work on enemy positions. Fortified areas, ammunition depots and weapons, accumulations of military equipment and personnel of Ukrainian formations are subjected to shelling.

Whose support is better? Or is it the artillery of various Russian armies?

[Uprun]

They got hit by a sopat ......, they missed a "hit" ...., this happens in the "ring" ...., in war, as in life ...., strength is needed to answer ..... .. and move on .... push ....

[Yrec]

If the Red Liman is not kept, the Oskol River will no longer save. Our parquet generals from the General Staff have so far fallen out - they wash their striped pants from diarrhea. Everyone froze in anticipation - what will Putin, the great and terrible, say. But Putin is not a military man! He does not know how to steer armies, and our "traditionalists" do not have their own opinion and are not capable of answering for anything! They look into Putin's mouth and wait for a command that will not be followed! That is why Putin did not remove the liberals from the government - only they know how to make decisions and bear responsibility for them! Despite the fact that they rather harm our country! In Ukraine, our leadership was ONLY wrong. In the days of the USSR, when he did not notice Ukrainian nationalism, in the 14th, when Putin recognized the coup and did not start the NWO immediately, all 8 subsequent years, while he was preparing the NWO as of the 14th year, although the train went farther and farther. "Throw to Kyiv" - a stupid and disastrous adventure. "Gnawing through" the defense and positional battles, while the Armed Forces of Ukraine were rearming and retraining, taking advantage of a many-month pause. The Armed Forces of Ukraine demonstrated what a strike by mobile forces should be like. And our defense immediately crumbled. The blow to the Ukrainian energy sector was supposed to take place in early March, and not now. Putin is rapidly losing the trust of the passionate part of society. And our entire "power vertical" is nothing without Putin. He failed to solve the personnel issue for 20 years in power. The "leaders of Russia" needed to be nurtured in the army as well. Now you have to do it with burning hair on your ass. Sadly.

[Prometey]

Yrec (Yuri).
You live in some kind of mriya. Let's talk garlic - in the domestic army, historically, there has always been a big strain with talented military leaders. Name some notable generals in the 17th century? In the 18th century - Rumyantsev, yes Suvovorov. During the wars with Napoleonic France, there was not a single outstanding military leader at all until 1812.
Well, they always fought as best they could. Russian-Japanese, World War I. Well, apparently, during the Great Patriotic War, the struggle for survival forced the birth of normal commanders, who at first were also beaten well.
Remember Konev, who, like Pavlov, was going to be handed over to the tribunal. And he ended the war as Marshal of Victory.
Or Rokossovsky, who in 1941 barely took his feet out of the Vyazma boiler.
Damn, do you really think that no one ever went to bed?

Quote: Yrec

The Armed Forces of Ukraine demonstrated what a strike by mobile forces should be like.

Quote: Yrec

"Throw to Kyiv" - a stupid and disastrous adventure.

Well, decide - where is the strike by mobile forces, where is the adventure.
There is only one failure so far - the Kremlin does not want to see that it is fighting not against the country, but against the entire NATO bloc, therefore it does not create reserves.
And you would show at the front how, having thin forces, to resist the enemy 3-5 times stronger in strength on the front.

[Yrec]

The "throw to Kyiv" was carried out by heavy mechanized columns along the highway, which fell under concentrated artillery fire and were destroyed. Just like in Grozny in the 95th. Our Kutuzovs forgot about Grozny 99 and Aleppo. I left the military school, because already at the age of 18 I understood what awaits me when obeying commanders much more stupid than me: in peacetime - darkness and hopelessness, in wartime - defeat and death. You can call me a coward and a defeatist, but over the next almost 30 years, I see a complete fraud in the army. Since the 14th year, I have been following Ukraine with concern, and our actions do not please me yet. No matter how we had to get into the Second World War 2.0 and take a sip to the fullest. And I have 2 sons.

[Prometey]

Quote: Yrec

The "throw to Kyiv" was carried out by heavy mechanized columns along the highway, which fell under concentrated artillery fire and were destroyed.

Are you talking about Buchu? But there, parts of the supply fell under attack. Well, it turns out that the armies have always moved along the roads and nothing else.
Fraud has always existed, there have always been those who tried to curry favor by any means, whether under the tsar, under the councils, or now. The Soviet army was destroyed neither by Yeltsin, it was destroyed much earlier. The army is generally such an institution that they would like to make an ideal mechanism, but it will never be one.
Why was the order "Not a step back!" issued in 1942? Yes, because the notorious human factor. While someone valiantly held the position, another poherist retreated and exposed the flank and he did not care about the neighbor on the right.
Sometimes it is treated only by spanking.

[Yrec]

The Kadyrovites came to Bucha. Do you consider them supplies?

[Peter1First]

Just before 1812, there was Yakov Kulnev, Minin and Pozharsky even earlier ...

[Yrec]

I don't give a damn about "Mriya", the Ukrainian language has always jarred me. The question is not in the generals, but in the survival of our country. Russia - Empire. When empires, in the past, became white and fluffy and lost their cruelty, they came to an end. Despite the rest, I can give examples from our past WWI - defeat, GW, disintegration and WWII in pursuit. USSR - defeat, GV, collapse and the current "SVO" in pursuit. And now Putin is holding a meeting on "economic issues."

[Virtual_II]

Quote: Yrec

If the Red Liman is not kept, the Oskol River will no longer save.

The pepper is so clear, but if there were no Oskol, then no one would have defended Liman. But, here someone claims that the right flank of Liman is held by someone under Izyum and the river is useless to them.

[Yrec]

Someone, who is this? WWII soldiers who rose from the graves? If one of ours remained there, remember what Ukrainians do with prisoners.

[Virtual_II]

Someone, who is this?

Quote: Adrey

Quote from Virtual_II

The Oskol River covers those who defend Kr. Estuary.

There, first of all, I cover the parts remaining near Raisins

[Radical]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: NDR-791

It's still not clear. Does art not reach the pontoon crossing or what? Or is it such a new way to destroy the enemy - only in the forehead?

On Sunday, the commander of the Vostok brigade of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), Alexander Khodakovsky, announced the arrival of Ukrainian echelons with personnel and equipment to participate in the battles in the republic. “Echelons with personnel and equipment are arriving in Pokrovskoye, 50 kilometers from Donetsk, one of them was hit by Iskanders at the time of unloading, – he wrote in his Telegram channel.

You did not fully quote his words - why?

[Radical]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: NDR-791

It's still not clear. Does art not reach the pontoon crossing or what? Or is it such a new way to destroy the enemy - only in the forehead?

On Sunday, the commander of the Vostok brigade of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), Alexander Khodakovsky, announced the arrival of Ukrainian echelons with personnel and equipment to participate in the battles in the republic. “Echelons with personnel and equipment are arriving in Pokrovskoye, 50 kilometers from Donetsk, one of them was hit by Iskanders at the time of unloading, – he wrote in his Telegram channel.

And then he said that the blow had missed the target.

[Nicu]

Russia needs TIME to prepare for a real war, Ukraine has been preparing since 2014, Russia only since 2021.
To win in Ukraine, Russia must muster at least a million combat-ready soldiers, about two thousand tanks, about four thousand armored vehicles, MLRS, howitzers, etc.

[Li17]

and hire you again...Maybe you can take out the trash!

[Prometey]

Quote: lithium17

and hire you again...Maybe you can take out the trash!

Well, repair and evacuation teams are also part of the army.

[Prometey]

Quote from Nico

To win in Ukraine, Russia must muster at least a million combat-ready soldiers

Girkin said that 500 for the eyes would be enough. And the soldier will become combat-ready after 3 battles, if he survives.

[thepuppeteer]

https://t.me/SolovievLive/126688?single

[Sagetaus]

Already appeared
"Ganchev reported that Western mercenaries were shooting civilians in Kupyansk"
https://svpressa.ru/war21/news/345783/

[Is2]

I think there will be a counterattack there is no other choice Ukrainian fascists must be destroyed

[Moneron]

God forbid with such a military leadership!. the corpses of their soldiers will fill up enemy trenches in order to rehabilitate themselves in the eyes of Putin. it is better to wait until the Supreme Commander-in-Chief "ripens" for cardinal changes at the top.

[Li17]

Quote: Boril

We expect the fall of the Red Liman soon. The defense of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is disorganized, the Armed Forces of Ukraine use the tactics of active maneuver, change the direction of strikes, and do not allow the enemy to come to their senses. This is not a temporary crisis! The crisis began from the very beginning of the NWO and is deepening! This idea itself / the so-called. CBO / was erroneous, uninvented.

Well, when will you learn anything besides slogans and screams about your victory there! Well, at least find a smart one, so that at least he can talk about something here! Or maybe you mixed up the site and climbed by mistake with a similar one? !

[Boril]

Well, when will you learn anything besides slogans and screams about your victory there! Well, at least find a smart one, so that at least he can talk about something here! Or maybe you mixed up the site and climbed by mistake with a similar one? !

I have nothing in common with your ideas, I don’t even know Ukrainian. I also have no claims to the "first instance", I am only amateurishly interested in military affairs. Obviously not connected with either yours or Ukrainian ones. And those and those, are boorish to meet every other opinion! And the site is international, didn't you know?

[alexey sidykin]

The site is Russian ... if you are not in the know, then read it. Registration, organizers, board of the site... not a single foreigner.

[Adrey]

The offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction has far from exhausted itself. There have already been reports of enemy reconnaissance up the Oskol towards Dvurechny. With the withdrawal of our units beyond the state border, there is no clear threat to the left flank of the enemy grouping. It suggests a bypass of the eastern part of Kupyansk from the north with pressure along the front and the development of an offensive on Svatovo. And then...

Adrey (Andrey)
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Operational summary in the Izyum-Kupyansk breakthrough zone: The enemy is trying to develop an offensive towards Izyum and Krasny Liman
Quote: Negruz
After the loss of raisins, the entire Kramatorsk grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be unlocked, which means it will be impossible for ours to advance further in the Donbass ....
If emergency measures are not taken, then the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be transferred from near Kharkov in the direction of Melitopol and the Crimea will be cut off again, and Kherson will have to be left ...
This is me in large strokes ....

It is unlikely. If Kupyansk is completely lost, then the APU opens up the possibility of a strike on Svatovo, possibly in converging directions and from Liman. A strike from south to north for the Armed Forces of Ukraine will look like a "parallel pursuit" of our retreating units. There are no good roads there and it will be difficult for ours.
This I mean that the potential of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this area is far from being exhausted. And the front can be stabilized only on the line Severodonetsk - Rubizhnoye - Starobelsk.
Well, then yes, Kherson will be "rocked" again hi

[Archivist Vasya]

These are the real heroes of this war!!! who, with their exploits, correct the stupidity of our General Staff

[valentine light]

It was necessary to immediately damage the roads and all the electrical substations. This would indirectly complicate the existence of the su.

Now the offensive has run out of steam, they expected a collision in a head-on battle, but everything turned out wrong - ours were withdrawing protecting the personnel.