Russian Ambassador to Germany: Berlin crossed the "red line"

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Russian Ambassador to Germany: Berlin crossed the "red line"

As the Russian ambassador to Germany, Sergei Nechaev, said the day before, the German government, by its decision to start deliveries of lethal weapons own production Kyiv crossed the "red line".

According to Nechaev, in its supply of arms to Ukraine, Berlin is on the lead of the "Anglo-Saxon allies in NATO", which only contributes to prolonging the conflict.



In an interview with "News" The Russian diplomat called the very fact of deliveries of German-made weapons to Kyiv a red line that the German government should not have crossed. These weapons are used not only against the Russian military, but also against civilians in Donbass, Nechaev noted.

Recall that at the end of August, the head of the German military department, Christina Lambrecht, announced that the Bundeswehr had allocated the maximum number of weapons from its stocks, and the rest was necessary for the country to protect its own interests.

The weapons supplied by Berlin to Kyiv include Panzerhaubitze 2000 self-propelled howitzers, reconnaissance Drones, armored personnel carriers, MLRS MARS.

In addition, information was leaked to the media about the supply of German tanks Leopard. When German Foreign Minister Annalena Berbock was asked about this, she evaded answering.
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    1. +61
      12 September 2022
      Yes, for a long time everyone has crossed the "red line" Germany and other countries! and what will be the answer?
      1. +1
        12 September 2022
        got ahead of me a little.
        1. 0
          12 September 2022
          Not you alone.
      2. +2
        12 September 2022
        Yes, everyone has already crossed the "red line"
        So Vladimir Vladimirovich did not seem to mind

        Here they are trying...
        1. -9
          12 September 2022
          Here they are trying...


          And in general, the stuffing of information has already begun that we simply avoided a catastrophe in the Kharkov section ...
          the enemy was stronger.
          (there, instead of Ukrainians from Britain, the real British came)
          1. +7
            12 September 2022
            (there, instead of Ukrainians from Britain, the real British came)
            What difference does it make to a land mine whose meat to scatter? British, New Zealanders, Americans...
          2. +2
            12 September 2022
            This is not a stuffing, this is a fact, taking into account the abandoned equipment.
          3. +1
            12 September 2022
            Quote: Olezhek
            (there, instead of Ukrainians from Britain, the real British came)

            Yeah, white Sahibs will die for the sake of some natives :)))). The British have always been famous for the fact that others have always fought for the interests of Britain.
          4. +1
            12 September 2022
            Quote: Olezhek
            (there, instead of Ukrainians from Britain, the real British came)

            Firstly, not instead, but together. 10 people in Britain did prepare, and prepared well. Like the same number in the USA, and in France, and in Germany. And this is already a whole full-blooded assault infantry corps for offensive operations, plus the special forces of NATO countries, their PMCs and foreign mercenaries. The calculations of artillery systems and MLRS were also mainly NATO, reconnaissance and target designation from there. And we had the most poorly covered section of the front there.
            Yes, they did it right. And the superiority in forces was overwhelming.
            So what's that
            Quote: Olezhek
            on the Kharkov site, we simply avoided a disaster ...

            , It's right . But the catastrophe was indeed avoided and the troops, albeit with losses, were taken to new lines before the arrival of the main reinforcements.
            NATO success?
            Definitely.
            But also the lesson of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Henceforth, the enemy will not be underestimated. But then ... Next - WAR.
            It is no longer a NWO with a tender attitude towards the enemy, as towards lost brothers. Now everything will be adult. And without any special restrictions.
            Quote: Olezhek
            the real Brits have arrived

            From the fact that they are real, or counterfeit, the difference is not great. Their special forces always gave in against ours, even according to Soviet experience. And the rest of the British army, as it were, is not among the leaders and favorites. Ambition, aplomb, show-off - yes. But in reality, they are indistinguishable from the average white person.
            There were just MANY more of them.
            And under equal conditions, with equal forces ... their attempts could simply not be noticed.
            Hence the conclusion - QUANTITY (especially in war) MATTERS.
        2. AAK
          -2
          12 September 2022
          And even Banderlogs and their owners get something, but with what formidable deep concerns we answer them, they really tremble ... and when Ours "... we were deceived" - then they finally become very, very scared. .. they can’t eat straight ...
      3. +5
        12 September 2022
        Berlin should be reminded of these deliveries and taken into account in relations (or curtail them).
        1. +1
          12 September 2022
          Remember Berlin
          Berlin actually curtailed direct relations.
        2. +16
          12 September 2022
          It is especially wonderful that we supply gas that is DIRECTLY used for the production of military equipment. Capitalism in its most disgusting form!
          1. +6
            12 September 2022
            Capitalism is disgusting in principle, it is not necessary to divide it into forms, it is enough to read Dreiser.
            1. +5
              12 September 2022
              Enough to read Dreiser.
              And you don’t need to read Theodore, just listen to TV, read the Internet and analyze. Big uncles make money on blood, on both sides.
              1. +2
                12 September 2022
                If in terms of income, in this case, the big guys in the West are making money, and we, as the weakest side, are trying to save something. Many who want to save something represent our peace party.
          2. -8
            12 September 2022
            For gas, we get money that goes in the orm number for the maintenance of the army and its weapons!
            1. +3
              12 September 2022
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              For gas, we get money that goes in the orm number for the maintenance of the army and its weapons!

              According to your logic, Stalin should have sold Hitler oil, tungsten, manganese and nickel, in which Germany had the largest deficit, in order to receive Reichsmarks?
              1. +1
                12 September 2022
                Quote: Netomsky
                Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                For gas, we get money that goes in the orm number for the maintenance of the army and its weapons!

                According to your logic, Stalin should have sold Hitler oil, tungsten, manganese and nickel, in which Germany had the largest deficit, in order to receive Reichsmarks?

                Well, since 1972, the USSR has been somehow driving gas to its worst enemy in the NATO bloc in Germany - at the height of the Cold War, no?
                1. -1
                  12 September 2022
                  Quote: your1970
                  Well, since 1972, the USSR has been somehow driving gas to its worst enemy in the NATO bloc in Germany - at the height of the Cold War, no?

                  That is why the USSR lost the war. Due to Soviet resources, Europe has become a showcase with a hundred varieties of sausage.
                2. 0
                  13 September 2022
                  Quote: your1970
                  at the height of the Cold War

                  And what flared up there, do not tell me? And they give us nothing in return?! request Don't try to manipulate the facts to suit your opinion.
                  1. 0
                    13 September 2022
                    Quote: victor50
                    And what flared up there, do not tell me?

                    That is, these are the propagandists of the USSR lied to the Soviet people about the "aggressive NATO bloc", "Permanent provocations in West Berlin", "Deployment of nuclear missiles on the territory of NATO countries" and the like?
                    I thought they were telling the truth ... but they won't ...
                    And yes
                    Quote: victor50
                    And they give us nothing in return?
                    - exactly the same as now - MONEY ...
                    1. 0
                      13 September 2022
                      Quote: your1970
                      Quote: victor50
                      And what flared up there, do not tell me?

                      That is, these are the propagandists of the USSR lied to the Soviet people about the "aggressive NATO bloc", "Permanent provocations in West Berlin", "Deployment of nuclear missiles on the territory of NATO countries" and the like?
                      I thought they were telling the truth ... but they won't ...
                      And yes
                      Quote: victor50
                      And they give us nothing in return?
                      - exactly the same as now - MONEY ...

                      You pulled out a few years from a fairly long history of relationships. And we bought equipment from them that we badly needed. If I am not mistaken, the trade turnover with the FRG would be the largest of the non-socialist countries. And we did not conduct hostilities with them, and they did not openly supply weapons to the countries conducting hostilities against us. No need to draw facts by the ears.
                      Quote: your1970
                      is it the propagandists of the USSR who lied to the Soviet people about the "aggressive NATO bloc", "Permanent provocations in West Berlin", "Deployment of nuclear missiles on the territory of NATO countries" and the like?
                      I thought they were telling the truth ... but they won't ...
                      And yes

                      Don't be silly, it doesn't make sense. They didn't prove anything at all. They traded exactly the same way with the Evil Empire. And in the pre-war years, officially hating the fascist ideology, they traded with Germany, and for a couple of years they had very warm relations. Externally.
                      1. -1
                        13 September 2022
                        Quote: victor50
                        And we did not conduct hostilities with them, and they did not openly supply weapons to the countries conducting hostilities against us. No need to draw facts by the ears.

                        That is, GSVG was also for blazir?
                        I understood - it was an occupation regime for the GDR ... and with the FRG we decided the loot .....
                        So, they lied .. about the "hostile capitalist environment"
                        and I sat and took notes lies political officer in Lenkomnata...

                        The loot rolled.....
                        1. 0
                          13 September 2022
                          Quote: your1970
                          So, they lied .. about the "hostile capitalist environment"
                          and I sat and outlined the lies of the political officer in the Leningrad Room ...

                          I do not understand what you are trying to achieve and what you want to prove? Was there a war then? Was it different from the current situation?
                        2. -1
                          14 September 2022
                          Quote: victor50
                          Quote: your1970
                          So, they lied .. about the "hostile capitalist environment"
                          and I sat and outlined the lies of the political officer in the Leningrad Room ...

                          I do not understand what you are trying to achieve and what you want to prove? Was there a war then? Was it different from the current situation?

                          Quote: victor50
                          Quote: your1970
                          So, they lied .. about the "hostile capitalist environment"
                          and I sat and outlined the lies of the political officer in the Leningrad Room ...

                          I do not understand what you are trying to achieve and what you want to prove? Was there a war then? Was it different from the current situation?

                          There were no differences and no, the situation is the same.
                          We pumped and pump gas to a member of the NATO bloc for loot - doymarks and euros ...
                          And if you proceed from the supply of weapons, then according to your logic, we have been 9 years FIGHTED with China, which uninterruptedly drove weapons of all stripes, including artillery (and even together with the United States) - to Afghanistan
                        3. 0
                          14 September 2022
                          Quote: your1970
                          And if you proceed from the supply of weapons, then according to your logic, for 9 years we FIGHTED with China, which uninterruptedly drove weapons of all stripes, including artillery (and even together with the United States) - to Afghanistan

                          This is your logic, not mine! And I can’t figure it out, and I don’t want to! In my opinion - just fitting facts to personal opinion. With some distortion. hi
                        4. 0
                          14 September 2022
                          Quote: victor50
                          In my opinion - just fitting facts to personal opinion. With some distortion

                          What did I distort?
                          Gas drove? Driven!
                          Member of NATO-Germany? Yes!
                          Did they get the money for this? Received!
                          Was there a cold war with NATO and the US at that moment? Was!!
                          Where did I mess up?
        3. AUL
          0
          12 September 2022
          Russian Ambassador to Germany: Berlin crossed the "red line"
          All the Germans already crap with a fright!
      4. +11
        12 September 2022
        So they will go further, for them stopping is a failure. And what will ours do in response? Will they threaten again? If the SVO continues to go on like this, then it will not end in anything good. Yes, we must honestly admit that Europe has driven a bunch of mercenaries there from wherever possible, they lead and do not hide (when successful) the Anglo-Saxons, they also lead the shelling of artillery and chimeras, i.e. are directly involved in the conflict. And who recalled at least the ambassadors? According to their forces in foreign regions, no one beats everyone, everything suits them.
        1. +2
          12 September 2022
          Yes, I must honestly admit
          Yes, everything is according to plan.

          And I suspect that Kherson is next in terms of regrouping. It would be better for the locals to regroup ahead of time.
          1. +1
            12 September 2022
            My opinion, the next direction is Volnovakha and then Marik ..
            1. 0
              12 September 2022
              It is necessary to sharply increase the grouping, otherwise there is a chance to repeat the "regrouping" already with Marik and Azov in principle.
              1. +1
                12 September 2022
                We must fight ... otherwise you can regroup anywhere ..
      5. +4
        12 September 2022
        Quote: opuonmed
        Yes, for a long time everyone has crossed the "red line" Germany and other countries! and what will be the answer?

        I think it's time to stop supplying the enemy with resources for the war.
      6. -2
        12 September 2022
        So the point is that they did not announce the intersection. What will happen now.
      7. 0
        12 September 2022
        Yes, something like this:
      8. +6
        12 September 2022
        They warn you once, and then they beat you so that you don’t get up. And only cowards and ri warn five hundred times, which no one perceives anymore, regardless of what it is called a warning or a red line.
      9. +3
        12 September 2022
        Quote: opuonmed
        Yes, for a long time everyone has crossed the "red line" Germany and other countries!

        But gas still continues to flow to Germany, and oil products.
      10. 0
        12 September 2022
        Quote: opuonmed
        Yes, for a long time everyone has crossed the "red line" Germany and other countries! And what will be the answer?

        Should the Russian Foreign Ministry be silent? Its' his job!

        After all, the statement is designed for the broad German, which is beginning to feverish, and for the opposition parties in Germany. And it is desirable to direct this fever in the right direction - not to the East once again, but against the current authorities of Germany.

        Do you want to hit Germany? Stop the discontent of the broad German masses and consolidate them with the current government? Redirect the discontent of the broad masses to the East? Do we need it now?

      11. +1
        12 September 2022
        There is no answer, because The red line has moved too far!
        Russia uses its rhetoric But meanwhile the US and EU are testing strength and more importantly the political instability of the country And the results are satisfactory
        1. 0
          12 September 2022
          Trump, are you the devil?! winked
    2. +2
      12 September 2022
      Does this mean there will be no gas to Stoltz in winter? wassat
      1. +5
        12 September 2022
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Does this mean there will be no gas to Stoltz in winter?

        Sure? In my opinion, give free rein to ours, so they will gladly load SP and SP2 at 100% capacity, and where will these red lines be?
        1. 0
          12 September 2022
          Quote: Canecat
          In my opinion, give free rein to ours, so they will gladly load SP and SP2 at 100% capacity, and where will these red lines be?

          Red lines are already perceived by the West as nothing more than rags at the threshold on which you can wipe your feet. And the launch of SP-2, I think, is beneficial for Russia - it can work like a wedge in Western unity. Yes, and the strengthening of Germany (under albeit implicit but fulfilled conditions for the non-delivery of weapons to Ukraine) is more profitable than strengthening Poland, which is incapable of negotiating.
      2. +2
        12 September 2022
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Does this mean there will be no gas to Stoltz in winter?

        I would like to, but it's hard to believe.
        1. -1
          12 September 2022
          I hope for the German punctuality of Stotz.
      3. -2
        12 September 2022
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Does this mean there will be no gas to Stoltz in winter?

        I'm very afraid that we won't have Kherson in the winter.
      4. 0
        12 September 2022
        no gas?
        In order to cut off supplies to the enemy, a continuous stream must flow from the Central Design Bureau window, no weaker than a pipe.
    3. +8
      12 September 2022
      everyone has been at war for a long time and only we have a picnic with mothers
      1. 0
        12 September 2022
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        everyone has been at war for a long time and only we have a picnic with mothers
        -Ukraine declared war on us?legally?
        don't want to either?
        out there...
        1. -1
          12 September 2022
          Quote: your1970
          out there...

          oh sorry, I forgot, it’s if the war is not declared, then they don’t kill anyone, just like in childhood tra-ta-ta-ta-ta, you are killed, and after the game everyone went together to eat apples
          I’ll ask a banal question, do you have checkers or go?!!!
          1. -1
            12 September 2022
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Well, if they didn’t declare war, then they don’t kill anyone,

            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            I’ll ask a banal question, do you have checkers or go?

            - that is, for you it all comes down to killed - not killed? And that's it?
            Have you tried a comprehensive assessment?
            For example year for 2 or for 3?
            Or now customs officers at checkpoints are paid the usual salary, and 2 meters from them, border guards at the same checkpoint - double? And it flies the same...
            Or assess the possibility, on the basis of the laws of wartime opposition, 10 years instead of 15 days?
            Or lift the moratorium on the death penalty - due to war..
            Or strike nuclear weapons - in accordance with the defense doctrine - on all cities with a population of one million in Ukraine. Or on Warsaw ...
            Or ban layoffs from military factories...

            Too many nuances arise - therefore LEGALLY we don't have a war.

            Z.y
            Two Afghans die on our roads every year. This is the question of
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            if war is not declared, then no one is killed, just like in childhood tra-ta-ta-ta-ta
            1. -1
              12 September 2022
              Quote: your1970
              - that is, for you it all comes down to killed - not killed? And that's it?

              all the best, good luck to you on the rainbow, in the land of pink ponies
              1. 0
                12 September 2022
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Quote: your1970
                - that is, for you it all comes down to killed - not killed? And that's it?

                all the best, good luck to you on the rainbow, in the land of pink ponies
                - that is, we do not understand comprehensively and do not even try?
                For you personally, who does not understand, there were areas in the Second Chechen War where they paid for combat and there were areas where they did not pay. And they died - both here and there ...
                Because there was such a document LEGALLY significant.
                Now the wars LEGALLY no - and this gives rise to a bunch of problems both now and in the future ...
                For example, if a border guard dies, then his children will receive an increased pension, and if a customs officer, then 12 and fuck off. And this can be from the same arrival ...

                But it's pointless for you to say
                1. 0
                  12 September 2022
                  you do not understand or do not want to understand
                  In the Kharkiv region, teachers from Russia who taught in local schools under the Russian program were detained, Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Iryna Vereshchuk told Strana.ua.

                  According to Vereshchuk, the detainees will be tried under Art. 438 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (violation of the laws and customs of war; this article threatens up to 12 years in prison).

                  At the same time, Russian teachers will not be considered as prisoners for exchange, since they are not combatants, the Deputy Prime Minister said. “They committed a crime against our state. <...> There are serious terms of punishment,” she noted.
                  1. -1
                    13 September 2022
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    you do not understand or do not want to understand
                    In the Kharkiv region, teachers from Russia were detained, who taught in local schools according to the Russian program,

                    This is precisely the situation that has not been legally settled in connection with the same issue of WAR.
                    The question is what will happen in the future.
                    Will their children receive payments and benefits - like families of military personnel or the minimum wage - as in the event of loss of a breadwinner, that is the question.
                    Will they be able to exchange them as prisoners or not.
                    Remember your favorite military registration and enlistment office in 1985-1990 - "But I didn't send you there!" This despite the fact that there were orders, decrees and resolutions.
                    And now there is nothing of this - because there is no war - legally. And in 5-10 years they and their children will face this ..
                    Well, yes, country 404 pleases
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    According to Vereshchuk, the detainees will be tried under Art. 438 belay belay Criminal Code of Ukraine

                    Vereshchuk didn't read your own UK...

                    "Home
                    Codes
                    Criminal Code of Ukraine
                    SPECIAL PART
                    Section XX
                    Article 438. Violation of laws and customs of war
                    Article 438 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine. Violation of the laws and customs of war
                    1. Ill-treatment of prisoners of war or civilians, expulsion of civilians for forced labor, looting of national values ​​in occupied territory, use of means of warfare prohibited by international law, other violations of the laws and customs of war provided for by international treaties, the consent to be bound by which is granted by the Supreme Rada of Ukraine, as well as issuing an order to commit such actions -
                    shall be punishable by imprisonment for a term of eight to twelve years.
                    2. The same acts, if they are associated with premeditated murder, -
                    shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of ten to fifteen years or life imprisonment."
                    With the same success, they could impute them, for example - violation of the rules for operating elevators ...

                    Of course they will put them in jail, and we won’t do anything about it. Alas ..
                    I agree, it looks unsightly - from our side ...
    4. +1
      12 September 2022
      Again, the Nazis took up the old!
    5. +3
      12 September 2022
      As Russian Ambassador to Germany Sergey Nechaev said the day before, the German government has crossed a red line by its decision to start deliveries of lethal weapons of its own production to Kyiv.
      So what?
      Well, he said.
      Are they scared?
    6. +9
      12 September 2022
      Have you moved on and what are the next steps? How should one answer this.
      1. +6
        12 September 2022
        Quote: Vladimir 290
        Moved on and what next?

        There are a lot of real actions, ranging from simple concern to serious concern.
    7. +10
      12 September 2022
      Continue to fulfill contracts with respected partners, you will not see it yet.
    8. +6
      12 September 2022
      Yes, what is it? This has never happened before, and here it is again... The red line has been crossed.
      It is surprising that deep concern has not yet been expressed, probably they are giving the last chance to change their minds, unreasonable, and then how they will express it.
    9. +1
      12 September 2022
      As Russian Ambassador to Germany Sergei Nechaev said the day before
      So what ? We hear these and similar statements every day, and not from ambassadors, but from higher officials.
      1. 0
        12 September 2022
        The ambassador says what "people from above" told him. He said what is necessary, who needs to be heard. "This is zhzhzhzhzh not casually." It means that something had to be conveyed to someone. Let's see.
    10. +5
      12 September 2022
      One red line, another red line, another red line... there will be many more devils
      1. -2
        12 September 2022
        If you draw a lot of red lines, then there will be a red flag.
        1. 0
          12 September 2022
          Quote: Gardamir
          If you draw a lot of red lines, then there will be a red flag.

          you mean the symbolism of the blood shed for freedom? or the blood shed in the fight against this very freedom? wassat
          1. 0
            12 September 2022
            He just presented one red line, next to another, and a third. The red square is obtained.
    11. +6
      12 September 2022
      And what about this statement? Did the Germans take their weapons in the ass?
      I'm afraid that such a talking shop is a concussion of the atmosphere and nothing more.
      But when Kyiv didn’t sleep from night alarms and burning transformers, for example, day after day, if they didn’t have time to clean up the ruins of railway stations and bridges on the roads on the borders with Poland and Romanians, then maybe all these phrases about red lines were worth it ( and why red can be yellow, for example, to hold)
    12. +4
      12 September 2022
      the ambassador shamed the Fritz. so they need it. only sense from these passages.
      however, Scholz is shy - he will definitely be ashamed and embarrassed.
    13. +2
      12 September 2022
      oh, these are our red lines, why threaten if there is nothing to answer.
      1. +1
        12 September 2022
        How can there be no answer? The gas was turned off.
        1. -1
          12 September 2022
          The gas has been turned off completely. Money from Russia continues to flow to the West.
    14. +6
      12 September 2022
      Nobody cares about the bleating of the representatives of the Russian Federation.
    15. IVZ
      +6
      12 September 2022
      I didn’t understand the ambassador commented on the response actions of the Russian Federation or complained about the actions of the FRG? Or just stating a fact? To whom and why?
    16. -2
      12 September 2022
      So they were already remembered --- for example with energy resources
    17. Kim
      -1
      12 September 2022
      correct me if i'm wrong
      Russia's previous statement about the "red line" was in December
      what followed - everyone knows
    18. 0
      12 September 2022
      Was he sleeping?
      This could have been said back in March, and to explain where it is, this feature. For prevention.
      And now this statement is purely vegetarian, compared to what the diplomats of the EU and the UK are carrying.
    19. +3
      12 September 2022
      Someone already take away the red chalk from the hopscotch players.
    20. +1
      12 September 2022
      I would like to spit in Nechaev's face
    21. 0
      12 September 2022
      Maybe these red lines are drawn with the wrong felt-tip pens?
    22. +5
      12 September 2022
      Berlin crossed the "red line"
    23. +1
      12 September 2022
      Previously, Germany could be threatened to turn off the gas. Now that the gas has already been turned off, there is nothing much to threaten.

      Trumps at the beginning of the game are laid out only by beginners. Yes, it begins to seem that you are winning, but the end of the game is still far away.
      1. -1
        12 September 2022
        Quote from Heaven
        Trumps at the beginning of the game are laid out only by beginners. Yes, it begins to seem that you are winning, but the end of the game is still far away.

        anyway, everything will end with a nuclear ultimatum, isn't it easier right away?
    24. +1
      12 September 2022
      And why then did CONCERN not inflict a LIGHTNING response on the Decision Centers in Germany? fellow
      r / s Energy is needed for production. Can you finally stop supplying them to the Nazis? Or is it different? These are the Kremlin's partners, and Russia itself?
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    26. -1
      12 September 2022
      Fighting psychic from the KGB called the date of the defeat of the Kyiv regime laughing
      https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/2723023
      it will be cooler than Arestovich
    27. 0
      12 September 2022
      A transfusion of our power from empty to empty. Every time stepping over the red line -iii? Where is the answer, at least one adequate and not idle talk, where ???
    28. 0
      12 September 2022
      Yes, they are wrapped with these red lines / ribbons like an Indian totem, so what? The dog barks - the wind wears. Until they start biting, nothing will change.
    29. 0
      12 September 2022
      Ouch! But didn’t that ambassador try to speak Russian obscenities? Or do we continue to express diplomatic concerns? No, I understand - there is a long established etiquette. And who installed it? Our collective grandfather, who came to Germany on a T-34 on a "tourist package", cut through all the lines a long time ago. Red, orange, blue... Maybe our strength has diminished since then? So after all, a cartoon about Russian heroes will help you! None of the fat ones wants to visit the Russian land? Plant potatoes, spud, weed, harvest, harvest ... There you will gain strength. So that they choke on their green candy wrappers! This is a disease - to stack green waste paper, due to the impoverishment of a person living nearby. Can apply surgery in this terrible disease? Give me the thickest volume of Karl Marx. I'll hit someone very "educated" in the head with them!
    30. +1
      12 September 2022
      Russian Ambassador to Germany: Berlin crossed the "red line"

      It’s not funny for yourself?
    31. -1
      12 September 2022
      crossed the red line
      To be honest, so many of these features were outlined in red that you are already starting to get confused about who else, as they say, "Western partners" have not crossed this line. All have long passed, and some already more than once. They are weapons, advisers, money to Ukraine, we have sanctions, and we complain that SP-2 is closed due to their fault, and SP-1 is not working at full capacity again due to their fault. A strange policy - they beat you, and at the same time you want to seem capable of negotiating and fulfilling contracts.
      1. 0
        12 September 2022
        Quote: rotmistr60
        A strange policy - they beat you, and at the same time you want to seem capable of negotiating and fulfilling contracts.

        Imagine, we completely cut off all supplies, do you think they will die out? no, they will feel bad, cold and hungry, but they will biologically survive and turn into another Ukraine across Europe. Propaganda works there. And millions of gloomy, hungry, cold homosexuals, under rainbow flags, will go to punish Russia smile
        The task is to sow discord there, so that some people feel like fools
    32. -1
      12 September 2022
      AND...? They also puffed out their cheeks and splashed with saliva, twisted their legs and waved their fists, threatening the Baltic non-states when they blocked transit, and ...? Yes, nothing, they just spat savoryly in our face again, refusing to accept bank transfers, which means stopping all communication altogether. And in response, silence,,,, we don’t even wave our fist. So it is here, blah blah blah, continuing to drive resources and gold and foreign exchange flows to them.
    33. -1
      12 September 2022
      It's okay, we'll draw a new one, here our political hand-in are masters.

      For example, the evening was blasted at the thermal power plant - a good thing, but it probably won’t become a system for dismantling the infrastructure of the Wehrmacht, as Shoigu said - for humanitarian reasons
    34. 0
      12 September 2022
      Russia uses its rhetoric But meanwhile the US and EU are testing military strength and more importantly the political instability of the country And the results are satisfactory
      Good luck
    35. +3
      12 September 2022
      These red lines will soon be drawn on the ass of the commander-in-chief at such a pace. Are they sick at all and don’t understand shit? With their friendly gestures and other inadequate actions, they will bring the Russian Federation to a shameful defeat.
    36. 0
      12 September 2022
      It is high time to turn off all taps: gas / oil; the whole trade! This means not only Germany, but the entire West!!! Let them freeze, let them wait ...., quarrel our Balts (Labuses) with the Poles, Poles with the Germans, give coal between Scotland, Ireland in Albion, let them gnaw at each other, hating .... It's still going to war ... And where are the attacks on the CPR, why does Rzeszow function normally, why do delegations come to Kyiv, why does Zelya move freely, and not sit shaking in a bunker, huh!????
      1. 0
        12 September 2022
        Quote: Sergio63
        quarrel our Balts (labuses) with the Poles, Poles with the Germans, give coal between Scotland, Ireland in Albion, let them gnaw at each other, hating.

        before you start splashing saliva further, let me remind you - for this you need a lot of currency. Imported ones will not hate each other for free - only for loot.
        And where can we get money for this - if we don’t sell resources to them?
    37. -3
      12 September 2022
      Ahaaa.....
      Moved to Berlin.
      And we informed him about it.
      Where is the news? What's next?
    38. -1
      12 September 2022
      But we will still sell you gas if you open Nord Stream 2...
    39. +4
      12 September 2022
      "In Russia, we are used to chatting a lot. As a result, we have what we have" (Staff Captain Ovechkin \ "The Elusive Avengers" \\ "Mosfilm" - 1966)
    40. +2
      12 September 2022
      Russian Ambassador to Germany: Berlin has crossed the “red line”

      ***
      - Shall we draw a new one?
      ***
      1. 0
        12 September 2022
        There is nowhere to draw. Yes, and the chalk is over.
    41. 0
      12 September 2022
      the Russian ambassador in Germany has nothing else to do, as long as you can express useless protests. Germany has long crossed all the red and other lines and openly tells Russia that she does not care about the red lines
    42. +1
      12 September 2022
      Russian Ambassador to Germany: Berlin crossed the "red line"

      AND? Scholz had his legs cut off right up to the butt?
    43. 0
      12 September 2022
      Again useless pouting, menacingly shifted eyebrows and empty words? And a bonus for deflection and loyalty
    44. 0
      12 September 2022
      the German government, by its decision to start supplying lethal weapons of its own production to Kyiv, crossed the "red line"

      Nuuuu?? iiiiii??????
      What's next????
    45. 0
      12 September 2022
      What can we do people? We - I mean our country. We can only introduce our own sanctions, that's how it's done, and nothing else. Stupid is the one who thinks that we will be allowed to defeat Ukraine. They won't, so that's what's going on.
      1. 0
        12 September 2022
        They will not try to let us do it, you wanted to say... But We will do it, simply because it is necessary... And we need more than they do.
        1. 0
          12 September 2022
          Quote: Drako
          Russia uses its rhetoric But meanwhile the US and EU are testing military strength and more importantly the political instability of the country And the results are satisfactory
          Good luck

          Exactly - "If you want to be happy, be happy", but this aphorism is idiotic))
    46. 0
      12 September 2022
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      This is not a stuffing, this is a fact, taking into account the abandoned equipment.

      Have you seen it yourself? There is no trust in stuffing with pictures, if their Ukrainians, modeled on ISIS and Americans, do it. Perhaps this is Krajina lined equipment brought in for repairs, standing in line for repairs. so a lot, so anyhow, ....
    47. 0
      12 September 2022
      In an interview with the Izvestia newspaper, the Russian diplomat called the very fact of deliveries of German-made weapons to Kyiv a red line that the German government should not have crossed.

      Who is afraid of red lines from political impotents?
    48. 0
      12 September 2022
      Less words, more actions.
    49. -1
      12 September 2022
      What a menacing puff of cheeks. Now Berlin is shaking with fear....
      But in fact, there they "laugh" over this idle chatter, because they know that the Russian Federation will not be able to do ANYTHING in response.
    50. 0
      12 September 2022
      Personally, everything suits me ... As I usually write in the introduction, I rarely write, but everything comes true ...
      So, I will continue - the surrender of the Kharkiv region implies the entry of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the borders of Russia, which has consequences in the form of attempts to attack the primordially Russian regions, and against the backdrop of "overcomes", as well as the number of "vitamins" taken, everything will be irrelevant ... Which, again, , will entail consequences, in the form of a change in the configuration of the SVO. Against the background of the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we get an advantage by January, if we do not take into account random events, but take into account the crisis in Europe against the backdrop of shortages of energy resources. By random, I now mean attempts to hasten these events with statements that are made ahead of time by Russian officials, but already determine the general outline of the development of events. The result, as they say, will not keep you waiting, but you should not rush into such a matter ...
    51. +1
      12 September 2022
      Yes, the lines, red, blue, purple, have long been passed.... and the Russian Federation, represented by the rulers and the Defense Ministry, only moo and express concern. Instead of acting as one should act during a war. And our AP and MO are cowards all the time. And what will they say, what will the “partners” think... and they all don’t give a damn about us, they are destroying us with the hands of others. They only need our resources.
      We no longer have any other choice. Either we win, or we as a people will never exist again. This is the truth of life. It's a pity for Stalin, we no longer have Zhukov...
      And finally, I can say that Bulgakov was right: Cowardice is the most terrible human vice.
      From the encyclopedia. Cowardice is the reluctance to perform an action out of fear of the consequences or phobias.
      1. 0
        12 September 2022
        In many respects they are right, for them we are Indians
        , as during the conquest of northern America... We behave the same way - different tribes, if they quarrel, will slaughter each other, all that remains is to come and occupy the territories... For 300 years, nothing has changed, fundamentally, but we seem to have historians, anthropologists, the best schools on the planet... And I’m not saying to listen to everyone, but I would take the most outstanding ones as advisers. Because we make the same mistakes...
    52. -1
      12 September 2022
      There is “force majeure” in the gas agreement - citing this, reduce the gas supply to Germany by 50% from the planned level! And tell the ENTIRE public about it HONESTLY!
      “Gas supplies to Germany have been reduced due to the supply of heavy weapons to Ukraine! Gas not supplied under the contract will be used for the production of weapons of the Russian Federation and for sale to third parties in order to make a profit to provide for refugees from the territory of Dill!” - everything is clear and understandable! FOR ALL!
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    54. 0
      12 September 2022
      Quote: Drako
      Personally, everything suits me ... As I usually write in the introduction, I rarely write, but everything comes true ...
      So, I’ll continue - the surrender of the Kharkov region implies the entry of the Armed Forces of Ukraine onto the borders of Russia, which has consequences in the form of attempts to attack the original Russian regions, and against the backdrop of “victory”, as well as the number of “vitamins” taken, everything will happen.

      And now they are not shelling our territory or you need mass graves so that the government has a reason, but this is utter nonsense. You will take your family there, and then tell them that your death was necessary for....can you even hear yourself?
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    56. +1
      13 September 2022
      Quote: bayard
      Quote: Olezhek
      (there, instead of Ukrainians from Britain, the real British came)

      Firstly, not instead, but together. 10 people in Britain did prepare, and prepared well. Like the same number in the USA, and in France, and in Germany. And this is already a whole full-blooded assault infantry corps for offensive operations, plus the special forces of NATO countries, their PMCs and foreign mercenaries. The calculations of artillery systems and MLRS were also mainly NATO, reconnaissance and target designation from there. And we had the most poorly covered section of the front there.
      Yes, they did it right. And the superiority in forces was overwhelming.
      So what's that
      Quote: Olezhek
      on the Kharkov site, we simply avoided a disaster ...

      , It's right . But the catastrophe was indeed avoided and the troops, albeit with losses, were taken to new lines before the arrival of the main reinforcements.
      NATO success?
      Definitely.
      But also the lesson of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Henceforth, the enemy will not be underestimated. But then ... Next - WAR.
      It is no longer a NWO with a tender attitude towards the enemy, as towards lost brothers. Now everything will be adult. And without any special restrictions.
      Quote: Olezhek
      the real Brits have arrived

      From the fact that they are real, or counterfeit, the difference is not great. Their special forces always gave in against ours, even according to Soviet experience. And the rest of the British army, as it were, is not among the leaders and favorites. Ambition, aplomb, show-off - yes. But in reality, they are indistinguishable from the average white person.
      There were just MANY more of them.
      And under equal conditions, with equal forces ... their attempts could simply not be noticed.
      Hence the conclusion - QUANTITY (especially in war) MATTERS.

      Yes, quantity matters. Especially the number of modern and working communications equipment, modern intelligence equipment, such as:
      Space satellites, UAVs, long-range reconnaissance aircraft, quadcopter per kilometer of front;
      The number of soldiers provided with body armor also matters.
      Number of thermal imagers on UAVs, optical sights and night vision devices;
      Number of working batteries in vehicles and combat vehicles;
      Number of long-range delivery vehicles, attack drones and loitering ammunition.
      The amount of equipment that has been updated after half a century of standing in open areas in permafrost conditions;
      Number of armored vehicles converted with active protection equipment;
      The number of modern first aid supplies in individual first aid kits...

      If you like to count quantities so much, then please take into account all factors.

      One factor may lead to incorrect conclusions. Let's say we study only the factor of personal income and salary... And based on this factor, draw a conclusion on how to improve the situation on the battlefield.
    57. 0
      15 September 2022
      Three days passed... And silence. This is the “red line”...

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