It is reported about strikes at once on two Ukrainian thermal power plants, electricity was lost in half of the regions of Left-Bank Ukraine

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It is reported about strikes at once on two Ukrainian thermal power plants, electricity was lost in half of the regions of Left-Bank Ukraine

A series of explosions thundered on the territory of the Kharkov and Poltava regions of Ukraine, after which the light went out in half of the regions of the Left-Bank Ukraine.

With a high probability, the strikes were carried out on some important object of Ukrainian infrastructure, since electricity was lost not only in Kharkiv itself and the region, but also in other regions of Ukraine. It is reported that the light disappeared in the Poltava, Sumy, Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk regions.



The Dergachev City Council reports a strike on "critical infrastructure facilities" located in Kharkiv, but no details are given. Presumably, it arrived at CHPP-5, one of the largest combined heat and power plants in Ukraine. The station is located on the outskirts of Kharkov and just belongs to Dergachi. The second station, judging by the messages that have appeared, is the Kremenchug TPP in the Poltava region.

The situation is better than you can imagine: today, the sixth power unit of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, which fell out of the energy system of Ukraine, is turned off, and now strikes are being made on two main thermal power plants of Left-Bank Ukraine at once, which immediately knocks Kharkiv and Poltava regions out of the network. The redistribution of the load did not help and the networks of the Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye and Odessa regions fell down.

If we draw parallels with the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, it is clearly the Ukrainian troops that are shelling themselves in order to blame Russia later. But seriously, hitting two or three thermal power plants at once is already grown-up, stop playing spillikins with Kyiv.

Presumably, the strikes were carried out by sea-based Kalibr cruise missiles from the Black Sea, but there is no official information that it was Russia that launched the strikes, and it is possible that there will not be. The option of shelling the Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves also has the right to exist.
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    1. +94
      11 September 2022 21: 08
      Well, at least somehow they stirred in the Moscow Region.
      1. +57
        11 September 2022 21: 21
        Figase "stirred"! They sighed, so sighed! The trick with the Zaporizhzhya NPP is a credit, cooling down the reactor is not a matter of one day, they may not drown out, but simply chopped off the dill. HAS THE CBO event started in full?
        1. +18
          11 September 2022 21: 39
          CBO is turning, CBO is turning...
          Like in that movie in elegant shorts.
          1. +36
            11 September 2022 21: 45
            Enough already strained. Have we gone?!
            1. +16
              12 September 2022 00: 00
              So far, only the transformers have been hit. But the hint is more than clear.
              1. +11
                12 September 2022 00: 18
                A power plant without power lines and transformer fields is meaningless. Yes, and if to disable the power plant it is necessary to damage boilers or turbines, then for open-standing transformers filled with hundreds of liters of oil, one hot fragment is enough.

                Most likely a hint and response to the "counterattack".
                1. +21
                  12 September 2022 01: 22
                  And there is . I have been shouting for a long time that it is necessary to smash the power distribution substations. Without them, any power plant will operate in boiler mode and produce little electricity for its own needs. It is necessary to introduce such strikes into the system.
                  1. +4
                    12 September 2022 13: 31
                    Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                    Without them, any power plant will operate in boiler mode and produce little electricity for its own needs.
                    And trains will not run, since they have 1720 mainline electric locomotives, and they cannot run without electricity, and they need to be replaced by diesel locomotives. There are mainline diesel locomotives in Ukraine (720 units), but they are used on their own lines, where they are indispensable.
                    1. 0
                      15 September 2022 01: 03
                      The paper number of rolling stock in Ukraine has nothing to do with reality. "UZ" exploits frankly worn out junk, which has a place in museums.
              2. +11
                12 September 2022 00: 23
                Quote: Telegram channel Mikhail Akhremtsev
                In / in Ukraine - a large-scale exhibition of Malevich's paintings began.

                https://t.me/mihailahremtsev/3607
                1. +13
                  12 September 2022 01: 14
                  [Forwarded from Vladimir Rogov]
                  There is information that air conditioner manufacturers are massively recalling their products from the government quarter of the city of Kyiv and other CPRs, due to possible problems with self-detonation.

                  A particular malfunction of air conditioners is observed at the following addresses:

                  Kyiv, st. Bankovaya, 11 (coordinates: 50.444464, 30.528975);
                  Kyiv, st. Vladimirskaya (coordinates: 33 50.450768, 30.515680);
                  Kyiv, st. Elektrikov, 33 (coordinates: 50.474129, 30.528275).
              3. +14
                12 September 2022 00: 52
                Quote: Arzamas
                hint is more than clear.

          2. +42
            11 September 2022 21: 50
            Half the country without electricity and water, and in winter they will also be without gas.
            . Ukraine began the fight for survivability:
            South Ukrainian and Khmelnytsky nuclear power plants began to turn off the units.
            Controllers are trying to keep the system from crashing.
            In Kyiv, there is also no electricity in some places.
            Half the country without electricity and water.
            Trains started to stop.


            . In addition to Kharkiv and Poltava, a critical infrastructure facility in the Dnipropetrovsk region was hit and blazes
            Trolleybuses on fire due to power surge in Poltava

            https://t.me/s/RVvoenkor
            1. +39
              11 September 2022 22: 08
              Half the country without electricity and water, and in winter they will also be without gas.
              Nothing, they know how to ride, burn tires too)
              1. +31
                11 September 2022 22: 23
                Quote: flicker
                Half the country without electricity and water, and in winter they will also be without gas.
                Nothing, they know how to ride, burn tires too)

                Do they have hope that America will not freeze? I wonder how? Instead of the Hymars, will dung from Texas be carried by planes with the ranch?
                1. +8
                  11 September 2022 23: 45
                  Do they have hope that America will not freeze?
                  Well, somewhere now it's very warm there
                  https://t.me/specopua/21519
                  CHP-5 is on fire
                  1. +4
                    12 September 2022 00: 16
                    Quote: flicker
                    Do they have hope that America will not freeze?
                    Well, somewhere now it's very warm there
                    https://t.me/specopua/21519
                    CHP-5 is on fire

                    in the spring now)))))))))))))))) "barracks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, located directly at power plants"
                  2. +2
                    12 September 2022 00: 29
                    Quote: flicker
                    Well, somewhere now it's very warm there

                    Winter, December, will not be?
                  3. +3
                    12 September 2022 02: 02
                    They heat up while it burns. It will burn, something else will be set on fire. Here is a manual on how not to freeze in winter.
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                3. +15
                  12 September 2022 00: 17
                  Could this have been done on February 23rd?
                  Not ?
                  1. +3
                    12 September 2022 00: 30
                    Quote: Astra55
                    Could this have been done on February 23rd?

                    24th. It will be more symbolic. Although ... Whom to warm there in February is not clear ...
            2. +6
              11 September 2022 22: 27
              Bravo! Finally moving in our guide!
              1. +24
                11 September 2022 22: 31
                Maybe we’ll finally get a strike on the headquarters with all sorts of Zaluzhnys, who say that they need missiles to hit deep into the territory of Russia, so that such bad thoughts do not visit anyone else, otherwise they behave like immortals, they are not afraid of anything. They want to fire at the Zaporizhzhya NPP, Donetsk is already being shelled every day and nothing for them for everyday murders, in response to silence, so they got mad that they openly say that they will capture Moscow and destroy Russia.
              2. 0
                13 September 2022 15: 08
                Sergio_7. You don't have to be so nervous. But a bit like a joke about Stirlitz. A call from the center and the voice of Stalin. Listen, Comrade Stirlitz, did you take a very secret folder from Hitler? So exactly Comrade Stalin took. Hitler is offended by you, you took a folder from him and do not give it back, he had to go to extremes, contacted me. Comrade Stirlitz, immediately return the folder to Hitler, he is very worried, do you understand? So I understood exactly, I’ll return it right away, Comrade Stalin will be executed. ------ This is exactly the situation now with this very operation. We would have beaten them, but we are not allowed.
            3. +3
              11 September 2022 22: 45
              My "crazy" comment today, even the CSP workers bypassed when they were fierce on the site. And this is the channel Legetimny from Ukraine.
              Enemies have more accurate sources.
          3. -19
            11 September 2022 21: 55
            Yes, so far it does not turn into anything, even the complete absence of electricity in Ukraine will not prevent Europe from supplying weapons, and sanctions to “strangle” the Russian economy.
            1. -11
              11 September 2022 22: 28
              Let me remind you the story of attacks on warehouses with fuel and lubricants, oil refineries, ended in nothing, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not experience fuel starvation.
              1. -1
                11 September 2022 22: 34
                The question is, were they really as advertised by Konashenkov or as in the case of the Kraken-Phoenix?
                1. 0
                  11 September 2022 22: 50
                  Yes, why there were a lot of videos with burning tanks.
              2. +5
                12 September 2022 00: 09
                Quote from: filibuster
                Let me remind you the story of attacks on warehouses with fuel and lubricants, refinery plants, ended in nothing


                not nothing but the supply of fuel and lubricants by the West, and where do you see surplus electricity in the West now? .Do Europeans who recommend washing two places?
                So they themselves have a shortage and so Zelensky promised to help them the day before.
              3. +5
                12 September 2022 01: 25
                Electricity is not a diesel fuel; you cannot bring it on fuel trucks. .
                1. +5
                  12 September 2022 04: 39
                  Well, it won’t be bad to hit the television centers, maybe enlightenment has come to ours and the white gloves have finally been removed?
                  1. 0
                    12 September 2022 05: 44
                    It's time to take off the white gloves! hi
            2. +8
              11 September 2022 22: 48
              You can do it without foie gras. And without light - a nightmare.
              1. +15
                11 September 2022 23: 30
                Quote: stankow
                You can do it without foie gras. And without light - a nightmare.

                And without a mobile Internet, how can the invaders fight?
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              2. +2
                12 September 2022 04: 52
                Quote: stankow
                . And without light - a nightmare.

                There used to be gas lamps. Here, if you swipe through the gas pipe, then until the gas burns out it will be light, at least read the newspaper. laughing At the same time and in Europe will be delighted. wink hi
            3. -13
              11 September 2022 23: 47
              You don’t take into account that the Russian Lend-Lease for the Armed Forces has been working well lately https://t.me/military_az/24212
              1. 0
                12 September 2022 07: 23
                This is a serious fail, but the Defense Ministry and the General Staff should already stop lying and learn to admit their mistakes (and yes, to someone, how to shoot themselves as a decent officer). And then she is such a "regrouping" that they abandoned all the equipment.
            4. 0
              12 September 2022 15: 19
              But this is unlikely. Trains do not run without electricity. And the rolling stock is not being repaired and much more. It was high time to "close this crane" At any thermal power plant or nuclear power plant, smash the step-up substation and it can only provide everything around it. Well, let them be able to distribute electricity through the 10kV line within the city. Such transformers are not large and are easy to replace. But from 110 kV and above, this is a piece product. And sooo overall.
          4. +13
            11 September 2022 21: 58
            ......after that, in half of the regions of the Left-bank Ukraine, the light went out.

            Now in this part of Ukraine, the reproduction of the population will go uphill. It's time to take on the right bank.
            1. +9
              11 September 2022 22: 27
              Give the advantage to Kyiv, Lvov, Lutsk, Ivanovo-Frankivsk, etc.
            2. +19
              12 September 2022 01: 04
              Stopped thermal power plants are not only darkness.
              There will be no water, sewage, heat, gasoline / diesel fuel (stupidly do not pour fuel into a fuel truck), electric railway traffic has been stopped almost throughout the country, arrows cannot be switched to railway, there will be no railway transfer of APU reserves in the southeast, there is no Internet , there will be no mobile communications (and even a simple telephone), there is no longer the Internet, hospitals (including hospitals for the wounded of the Armed Forces of Ukraine) no longer work ...
              TV, radio, street lighting...
              First half of the 19th century.
            3. +2
              12 September 2022 05: 48
              La! And don't take too long! And so that Zelya lost contact with everyone and even the mobile phone could not charge! laughing
          5. +60
            11 September 2022 22: 05
            Notice that on the site, the trolls immediately disappeared, who constantly yelled "everything is lost", "we lost", "Putin is to blame for everything" ....
            And tomorrow, when the rest of the phone charges run out, it will turn out that here the wind will walk around the forum in general, with a couple of comments under each piece of news...
            1. +15
              11 September 2022 22: 10
              And tomorrow, when the rest of the phone charges run out, it will turn out that here the wind will walk around the forum in general, with a couple of comments under each piece of news...
              Thought about it)
              1. -3
                11 September 2022 22: 20
                Quote: flicker
                And tomorrow, when the rest of the phone charges run out, it will turn out that here the wind will walk around the forum in general, with a couple of comments under each piece of news...
                Thought about it)

                this is a beautiful but joke, they usually just have nothing to write about dill sadness
                1. -4
                  12 September 2022 11: 33
                  Will "true" patriots and adherents of regroupings, goodwill gestures, and not causing inconvenience to Western partners remain?
            2. +17
              11 September 2022 22: 23
              Quote: Inokkenty
              Notice that on the site, the trolls immediately disappeared, who constantly yelled "everything is lost", "we lost", "Putin is to blame for everything" ....
              And tomorrow, when the rest of the phone charges run out, it will turn out that here the wind will walk around the forum in general, with a couple of comments under each piece of news...

              Many are sitting in Poland, Latvia, Israel - earning shekels ...... There these are like shit in a pigsty.
            3. +4
              11 September 2022 22: 26
              Also drew attention wassat
              1. Aag
                +14
                11 September 2022 22: 57
                Quote: YarSer88
                Also drew attention wassat

                But didn’t they think - how many lives of our military personnel could be saved if these blows were delivered earlier ?!
                1. +5
                  11 September 2022 23: 01
                  Do you think I forbade it? You're wrong hi
                  1. -1
                    11 September 2022 23: 30
                    You didn't forbid.
                    You simply wrote down those who wrote "yes, when will this end, when will we start fighting as expected" in hysterics and all sorts of tsipsos.
                    1. +2
                      12 September 2022 00: 16
                      I called on those who shouted "we were defeated, Putin leaked, the world will never be the same" and so on to stop the hysteria. Or do you think that such speeches are beneficial? As it turned out, these people were from the CIPSO, since with the power outage in Ukraine they disappeared together with VO, is this proof of it?
                      But in general, I am against stamps, labels and other things, there is a constructive position - we will discuss it, there is only hysteria - I will say so, stop the hysteria.
                      According to what was necessary before, I was against such a step, since this is a civilian infrastructure, and it will entail difficulties for the civilian population, but, as time has shown, there is no way without it. So my position was wrong, perhaps.
            4. +14
              11 September 2022 22: 52
              Yes, stop writing everyone down as enemies of the people, people are all different, everyone’s psyche is also like me and my environment, an example of 3 people, 3 opinions me and one more, ... Everything is gone, everything is merge our third comrade, on us. .. alarmists, what do you understand, and so on, we told him. , everything was leaked, betrayed and in the same vein, now in terms of personalities I am 47, the second pessimist is 52 and the optimist is 46 "though he, unlike us, is a" warrior "to the bone (GRU special forces of the early 90s, hot spots, and so on, even Africa)
            5. 0
              11 September 2022 22: 56
              Correct remark!
            6. +5
              11 September 2022 23: 28
              In the case of successful actions at the front, the people simply have no reason to criticize. That's the whole reason.
              1. -2
                12 September 2022 00: 06
                In the event of successful actions at the front, the people simply have no reason to criticize
                Well, yes, the people in the rear plow in three shifts and demand exceptionally successful actions from the military.
                And what does successful action mean?
                Take for example a trench and put a battalion in - is this a successful action?
                Or another example, retreating from a trench to put an enemy battalion - what kind of action is this?
          6. avg
            0
            11 September 2022 23: 30
            Quote from witcher
            CBO is turning, CBO is turning...
            Like in that movie in elegant shorts.

            No, it's better to let them turn into "men's army camouflage trousers". Yes
        2. +50
          11 September 2022 21: 46
          Quote: Fisherman
          Figase "stirred"!

          Attacks on power plants, fuel depots, communication centers and transport hubs are the BASIC thing that is done after the destruction (or weakening) of air defense.
          This is even more important than hitting military factories and ammunition depots.
          Factories will not work without electricity, ammunition will not reach the front without fuel, and organized resistance will collapse without communications.
          But this is in the case of war. But we do not have a war, but a NWO.
          So they finished playing humanism, that the whole of Europe helps the Nazis, as in the Second World War. So much so that they began to carry out offensive operations.
          It was necessary to hammer on power plants immediately after the announcement of military supplies from Europe.
          Then there would have been much fewer victims - they would have had time to surrender over the summer.
          And now a bunch of people will freeze to death.
          But it’s already good that they decided now, and not in November
          1. +5
            11 September 2022 22: 06
            "- over the summer they would have had time to surrender." Fuck! And who will feed the whole abyss? They have sold the grain, they are arranging hunger.
          2. +9
            11 September 2022 22: 12
            Quote: Shurik70
            And now a bunch of people will freeze to death.


            Do you think they had a greater chance not to die in the Armed Forces of Ukraine as cannon fodder?

            Quote: Shurik70
            Then there would have been much fewer victims - they would have had time to surrender over the summer.


            In summer, you can easily live without heat and without electricity, but in winter this is already a problem.
          3. +30
            11 September 2022 22: 33
            Quote: Shurik70
            So they played out humanism

            The main and most correct phrase. Will we play next?

            I do not have strategic thinking at the level of an army or at least a division. Where do I go - the senior sergeant of the Airborne Forces ...
            But at the platoon level, I understand tactics and know where to shoot first. Kandahar taught. The boxing coach taught, the hand-to-hand coach taught. It's only in the movies that enemies kick each other for 20 minutes. A real fight - the first 5-10 seconds decide everything. Fast devastating attack with immobilization of the main threats.
            Tell me - how does the tactic of hand-to-hand combat in its combat use differ from the strategy of war, which SHOULD BE?

            The most harmful and filthy word that I have come to hate in the last seven months is "humanism"...
            1. +6
              11 September 2022 22: 50
              If it were so simple, then Nazism in Ukraine would have been crushed on the Maidan in 2013.
              What it hurts is how many people have to go to bed (both innocent and military) in order to gain the courage to cut down the enemy’s lipism.
              1. +5
                11 September 2022 23: 05
                Quote: Simple
                What is annoying is how many people have to go to bed (both innocent and military) in order to gain the courage to cut down the enemy’s lipism.

                When we reach the Polish border, Konashenkov will tell us how much the souls of our boys cost us "humanism" ...
                1. +3
                  11 September 2022 23: 16
                  Yeah. Wars have always been given to Russia with great bloodshed. The British and the United States are more pragmatic in this regard. waging colonial wars does not necessarily imply humanity.
                  Nose situation with the Kharkov region, many different inconsistencies are obtained.
                  1. +2
                    12 September 2022 00: 40
                    Quote: Simple
                    Nose situation with the Kharkov region, many different inconsistencies are obtained.

                    This will not happen, but our generals are sinless, like angels.
                    But, on good terms, the military prosecutor's office and the tribunal should have questions.

                    In short, there is no way without SMERSH ...
                    Only decisions are made not by a “troika”, but by a normal court and show it on TV. Both the court and the execution.

                    Maybe I'm some kind of medieval, but for making decisions that closely border on treason to the Motherland - "guilty of death." On TV. In the news.
            2. 0
              12 September 2022 11: 40
              The worst thing is that if we hit it right away, then the people would die many times less. The Armed Forces of Ukraine could neither carry out mobilization nor organize supplies. And our troops would have stood at least along the Dnieper. And all these humanisms, saving lives and grinding 100 people a day led to the fact that the enemy was prepared. And how much we will now lose both soldiers and civilians, I'm even afraid to imagine. "Good" if a couple of hundred thousand. And this is NOT a GAME. THIS IS IMPOTENCE AND FEAR FOR THE loot.. All these excuses are bleating to cover up infirmity.
              1. 0
                12 September 2022 12: 32
                Quote: Single-n
                The worst thing is that if we hit it right away, then the people would die many times less. The Armed Forces of Ukraine could neither carry out mobilization nor organize supplies.

                So it will count now? Exactly - not the APU.

                Quote: Single-n
                And all these humanisms, saving lives and grinding 100 people a day led to the fact that the enemy was prepared. And how much we will now lose both soldiers and civilians, I'm even afraid to imagine.
                And now we are eating the fruits of this "humanism".
                No, in the west of Ukraine ours, no one will greet us with flowers, because of every corner the anti-tank systems will protrude. SO FUCK IT TO US?
                Or to revive the NKVD, SMERSH, KGB to a height unprecedented even for these organizations. Because there the CONSCIOUSNESS is reformatted and it will not be possible to return it back even in 50 years.

                In the first half of the 80s, I, a schoolboy, who came with a class to Zaporozhye (!!!, "Russian city", allegedly), was called "kats..apom smelly" in the store during the winter holidays.

                It seems that I appointed 50 years for the "reformatting of consciousness" too optimistically ...
          4. 0
            12 September 2022 02: 59
            Let the Kyiv regime think about the victims, you see, they will have less time to shoot in Donetsk and Crimea. Let them do something else
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        4. 0
          12 September 2022 02: 34
          And no one paid attention to the date? 11/09. Accident?
        5. 0
          12 September 2022 03: 01
          Somehow it doesn’t quite look like strikes on “Decision Making Centers”, as the RF Ministry of Defense has repeatedly stated. hi
        6. 0
          12 September 2022 23: 35
          I would like to believe in it. Let's see. If yesterday's blackout on the territory of evil does not repeat itself, then it was just a pathetic attempt by pathetic people to soften the social shock of fleeing the Kharkiv region,
      2. +57
        11 September 2022 21: 21
        Six months tried with them in an amicable way. And eight years before that - very good.
        1. 0
          11 September 2022 22: 00
          Six months tried with them in an amicable way. And eight years before that - very good.

          It remained to learn to give pleasure with the lips of sugar. And after all, many were ready, and even now they don’t mind ..
        2. +1
          11 September 2022 22: 47
          Quote: Pavel73
          Six months tried with them in an amicable way. And eight years before that - very good.

          Let me quote today's national traitor. He composed the lyrics of this song when he did not yet know that he was "against the system". But it hurts to the point

          So full, are we in vain
          So many years everyone built a house -
          Is it our fault that it's empty?
          But now, we know what it's like with silver;
          Let's see what happens with acid...

          Although I have never been a fan of his, sometimes he used to slip the necessary phrases before.
      3. +31
        11 September 2022 21: 30
        Finally, someone heard us. Glory to Jesus Christ
      4. +34
        11 September 2022 21: 35
        Do they read VO in MO ??)
        1. +20
          11 September 2022 21: 48
          I remember that there was an article on VO that they read VO almost in the Pentagon.
          1. +15
            11 September 2022 21: 54
            VO is almost read in the Pentagon
            Donald Trump wrote an open letter here. Like before the elections.
            1. +2
              11 September 2022 22: 06
              "Please persuade Vladimir Vladimirovich to give me more money for the election campaign"?
              1. +4
                11 September 2022 22: 15
                No, thanks to the forum members for their support. It was a long time ago, but the old-timers of the forum probably remember.
                1. +1
                  11 September 2022 22: 37
                  Tell the joke in more detail, or something, enough to darken already.
                  1. +3
                    11 September 2022 22: 58
                    When he went to the first elections, it seems, his open letter addressed to the VO community was published here. That was a long time ago. But it was.
                    1. +2
                      12 September 2022 00: 18
                      It was right, easy to find. hi
          2. +3
            11 September 2022 21: 54
            Quote: Plate
            I remember that there was an article on VO that they read VO almost in the Pentagon.

            Not only in the Pentagon, Trump also had a sleep on VO.
        2. SSR
          +4
          11 September 2022 22: 03
          Quote: Sniper
          Do they read VO in MO ??)

          Who do you flatter? I call 96 years. Bodrov speaks of the same time.
      5. +13
        11 September 2022 21: 50
        What should have been done at the very beginning of the operation, now they are catching up. And they were always mumbling about we are not like that.
      6. +13
        11 September 2022 22: 25
        until the Ukrainians come to their senses, it is necessary to hit other thermal power plants!!!!!!! there are not so many of them throughout Ukraine! it's time to drive ukroin into the stone age!!!!! looking for oil and gas! I hope this will continue and this was not done because of the nuclear power plant that was turned off so that it would not be turned on)
      7. +8
        11 September 2022 22: 25
        In hospitals, there are more and more heavy banderlogs of shortcomings, apparently this night a decent part of them will no longer be drinks
      8. -2
        11 September 2022 23: 17
        Yes, they moved...
        They got a cuff, shot a couple of times - and again on the stove ...
        Neither mobilization (at least political and economic), nor the introduction of additional forces.
        In Moscow, the day of the city is celebrated, you can fucking ...
      9. -1
        26 September 2022 22: 49
        those who bombed and organized were probably called to the carpet by our humane Western authorities
    2. +88
      11 September 2022 21: 09
      Please! Do not stop!
      1. +31
        11 September 2022 21: 33
        Although I am an atheist, I am ready to pray to anyone, as long as it is not emotions, but becomes a system, so that thermal power plants freeze out, railway lines turn into arable land!
        1. -59
          11 September 2022 22: 02
          And preferably right in your area
      2. +25
        11 September 2022 21: 38
        Cut off the West too.
        1. +11
          11 September 2022 22: 14
          Quote: Incvizitor
          Cut off the West too.

          It is too early to cut off the western outskirts, it is connected to the Polish power grid, and that to the pan-European one. It is necessary to wait for a rainy useni, and then strain the entire European power grid in one fell swoop. Let them warm themselves with wet firewood.
          1. +2
            12 September 2022 04: 46
            Well, according to the points for changing wheel sets at the trains on the Polish border, it’s worth embedding.
    3. +42
      11 September 2022 21: 10
      However ...... they began to listen to the voices of commentators on VO. However .... It turns out that they were right after all?
      1. +50
        11 September 2022 21: 18
        So you see, in a couple of days there will be no bridges across the Dnieper.
        1. -22
          11 September 2022 21: 30
          Well, don’t be impudent, how will we look in front of the whole world? Not comme il faut, however.
          1. +26
            11 September 2022 21: 31
            Not as shameful as a couple of days ago, that's for sure))))
          2. +41
            11 September 2022 21: 35
            This world did not care about the nuclear power plant in Zaporozhye.
          3. +21
            11 September 2022 21: 51
            This is in front of what "whole world"? Before the false west? Fuck. This is far from the whole world, but those who unleashed a war game with the hands of their lackeys and supply them with weapons. Let them have forelocks and crackle.
            1. +7
              11 September 2022 23: 04
              Dills will start to freeze - they will demand energy from Europe, but they themselves have problems .... And then the most interesting thing will begin ... Russia announces sanctions against unfriendly countries! Not counter-sanctions, not in response to sanctions, but precisely their own and just like that, for the fact that they are fenced creatures !!!
          4. +7
            11 September 2022 22: 12
            Now half of the resources of the West that went into service with Ukraine will have to be spent on providing 35 million in heat, food and medicine. Given the upcoming winter in Europe - something else. Again - the diversion of hochlorabsila from the front to "horse" transportation and heavy non-mechanized physical work. In our country, if anything, Putin is responsible for everything, in all cases only he could make decisions. Not even Naryshkin, and even more so the population.
            1. -2
              12 September 2022 11: 45
              Everything is easier. Half will be exported to the EU. The old people in the villages for pasture. The rest in the ranks. And those who still sympathized with us will be the first to go on the attack simply out of hopelessness.
              1. 0
                12 September 2022 12: 25
                I feel some kind of catch in such reasoning about the war "half a ball", that questions should be looked at more broadly, and the enemy should be treated softer ... Does it really work - to endlessly impose your brotherhood and seek sympathy from the enemy? He that, at this time will not accumulate strength to strike?
                1. -1
                  12 September 2022 12: 57
                  This is not a call for half a shot. This is about the fact that while we were rubbing and rubbing, the enemy managed to rebuild his country on a military footing. And now you can pick it up without a lot of blood. In March, while helmets were sent to them and there were unfired militias against us, there was a chance to solve everything quickly. And now they have taken a bunch of people over the hill. The troops have been trained and the worst thing is that they continue to train soldiers at NATO bases. The flow and range of weapons has grown. Soon we will see NATO planes with "volunteers" or Ukrainians. Although the Americans have ALREADY managed to hang their missiles on Soviet aircraft. And this means combining control and target designation systems. at such a pace, by the new year in Ukraine, abrams with leopards-2 will be dissected. While we are drawing red lines and looking for decision-making centers. Oh yes. You can still joyfully report that today 10 wagons of shells were fired somewhere in the direction of the enemy. And they even managed to possibly destroy the 1-2 howitzer "777" .. What our Defense Ministry has been doing for a couple of months now.
                  P.S. Judging by the strikes on the thermal power plant. The decision-making centers are located there. I don’t see another explanation why they struck only 2.
                  1. 0
                    12 September 2022 19: 54
                    Quote: Single-n
                    I don’t see another explanation why they hit only 2

                    You do not see a lot of things, due to your pure illiteracy.

                    The blows to four (not two) thermal power plants were enough to “put down” the energy system in half of Ukraine. Google "domino principle" or something request
                    1. -1
                      12 September 2022 22: 55
                      Have you put it right here? Already in the summer we hit traction substations. The results are visible. The APU is coming. Let's see though. If ours nevertheless starts doing it regularly, the effect will be, or again, like with bridges. Fired once and again a month paw
          5. +10
            11 September 2022 22: 15
            It doesn't matter anymore. And we will always look bad in the Western media.
          6. +3
            11 September 2022 23: 33
            Le "monde entier" ce n'est pas
            53 pays Africains sur les 56 invités à écouter zelinski
            0 pays sud Américains pourtant invitations à écouter zelinski

            yandex translate
            "The whole world" is not
            53 African countries out of 56 invited to listen to Zelinsky
            0 South American countries that were nevertheless invited to listen to Zelinsky
            Not China
            Not Vietnam
            Not India and not Iran
            Not Myanmar
            etc.
            "the whole world" is only a small minority in the world...
            Pas la Chine
            Pas le Vietnam
            Pas l'Inde Pas l'Iran
            Pas le Myanmar
            etc
            "le monde entier" n'est qu'une petite minorité du monde...
          7. +1
            12 September 2022 00: 01
            It seems that people are very bad at sarcasm.
          8. 0
            12 September 2022 07: 16
            Was that irony? I don't understand why you got downvoted
            1. 0
              12 September 2022 23: 12
              Yes, I'm not fighting for the title of a plus visitor, it's just that many are in a state of shock from what is happening and I don't blame them.
        2. +12
          11 September 2022 21: 43
          What's the point of bridges if trains don't cross them!
          1. +4
            11 September 2022 23: 06
            Locomotives are coming. To the edge of the steam locomotive. )))
            1. +4
              11 September 2022 23: 12
              diesel locomotives
              Where can you get so many?
              locomotives.
              Those who know how to drive them are almost gone. Yes, and steam locomotives are all in museums and metal acceptances.
          2. 0
            11 September 2022 23: 13
            There are also locomotives. It is strange that the locomotive depots are still intact.
            1. +3
              11 September 2022 23: 25
              Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
              There are more locomotives

              There are significantly fewer of them than electric locomotives.

              Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
              It's strange that the locomotive depots are still intact

              There was a tearful message from Ukrzaliznytsia 2-3 months ago that they had 6500 km broken. ways, many other things, including largest locomotive depot, in my opinion, in Zaporozhye. If you want to find it, look for it right away on ukrosites, we didn’t publish it here.
              1. 0
                11 September 2022 23: 30
                As they now carry the same, it means that there are still a lot of diesel locomotives left. In any case, the transfer of troops will now be significantly difficult for them.
                1. +2
                  11 September 2022 23: 35
                  Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                  How are they carrying it now?

                  Now? Their light was "turned off" only tonight. In a couple of days it will be painful, it will be clear what they are "carrying" there.
              2. -2
                12 September 2022 11: 49
                Which absolutely did not prevent the Armed Forces of Ukraine from concentrating several strike groups and conducting simultaneous offensives in several areas. And scraping together diesel locomotives around the world is not a problem for NATO. The paths are generally repaired once or twice. We and the Germans proved this even in the Second World War. If the 24/7 Air Force does not "hang" over the tracks, then everything is repaired in a matter of hours. And the people in Ukraine will have enough to fix everything with shovels and sledgehammers.
                1. 0
                  12 September 2022 19: 22
                  Quote: Single-n
                  And scraping together diesel locomotives around the world is not a problem for NATO

                  In NATA, the track is not the same lol

                  The level of opponents, well, just admires sometimes Yes
                  1. -1
                    12 September 2022 22: 35
                    Which is an absolutely unsolvable technical problem. As well as the search for old Soviet diesel locomotives in the former. Republics of the USSR. And the Americans somehow managed to launch their missiles from Soviet aircraft. And everything is different there. Even number systems. And here you go. Do not think that there are armless idiots.
                    1. 0
                      12 September 2022 22: 46
                      Quote: Single-n
                      What is an absolutely unsolvable technical problem

                      Well, decide. I suggest - they change bogies on the wagons. But the wagons don't have drive wheels...

                      Quote: Single-n
                      Do not think that there are armless idiots

                      I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about you now. As for armless - I don’t know, but stupid - for sure Yes
      2. +3
        11 September 2022 21: 50
        On the Internet there is a type of role-playing games - military-political. You ask the players there how to proceed, they will tell you everything in much more detail than the commentators from the VO and even make a brief outline of the plan. wink
        The only problem is that they are used to playing with toys, and orders to bomb cities are given purely for fun sometimes. wassat
      3. +8
        11 September 2022 22: 00
        began to listen to the voices of commentators

        It would be nice if it’s like that, but somehow a strange special operation turns out: we seem to be at war, but it seems not quite - at the same time we don’t destroy the railway infrastructure and bridges over which Western weapons are supplied, we don’t destroy energy supply structures, thus military factories and other structures continue to work military support ... Various information systems also continue to work, but it was necessary, as according to Lenin: "... So that a) telephone, b) telegraph, c) railway stations must be occupied..."
        1. +3
          11 September 2022 23: 07
          After the shelling of the nuclear power plant, it was necessary to reformat the NWO into CTO !!!
        2. -8
          11 September 2022 23: 49

          So there is a Russian lend-lease https://t.me/military_az/24212
    4. +53
      11 September 2022 21: 11
      At last. This is what should have been done 6 months ago! Well, at least they started now, and that's good.
      1. +33
        11 September 2022 21: 21
        Uh-huh, if only it didn’t die out - at the traction substations of Zh.D. also, remember, beaten.
        1. +13
          11 September 2022 21: 37
          Yes. By the way, why did you stop?
          1. -6
            11 September 2022 22: 04
            Called from Washington...
          2. +1
            11 September 2022 22: 04
            Missiles are a little expensive, you can’t get enough of them, and free-falling bombs from aircraft - completely destroyed air defense interfered.
            1. -1
              11 September 2022 23: 08
              And did the air defense endure a long time ago? Something I missed.
              1. -2
                12 September 2022 11: 51
                Yes, we and the Armed Forces of Ukraine "ground" everything back in July. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will not lie.
    5. +33
      11 September 2022 21: 12
      What kind of jokes? Self-shooting as it is. Now they will demand the inclusion of the Zaporizhzhya AS in the network of Ukraine.
      1. +9
        11 September 2022 21: 33
        We can no longer connect, she alone will not pull. The main thing there is that in Europe, power plants do not go into overload.
        1. +13
          11 September 2022 22: 00
          Quote from Virtual_II
          The main thing there is that in Europe, power plants do not go into overload.

          In order for Europe to go into overload, a blow to the Burshtyn energy island, which includes the Burshtyn and Kalush thermal power plants, as well as the Tereblya-Rikskaya hydroelectric power station, is needed, because. this island is looped with Europe. feel
          1. +4
            11 September 2022 22: 15
            Need someone to argue. And if they have stored gas there for the whole winter, you can’t store electricity like that.
          2. +11
            11 September 2022 22: 16
            Quote: dedusik
            For Europe to go into overload, a blow to the Burshtyn energy island is needed

            In order for Europe to go into overload, a blow to the Burshtyn energy island is needed.
            I support you, I really need it! It is high time.
      2. +4
        11 September 2022 21: 54
        Quote: Zagrebun
        What kind of jokes? Self-shooting as it is.

        Why the lights in Kyiv do not go out, limited only to the right-bank part of Ukraine. Again half measures or something.
        1. +4
          11 September 2022 22: 16
          The domino effect should work, but self-attacks must continue.
        2. -3
          11 September 2022 23: 14
          Most likely, there is powerful air defense, it is not so easy to take it with calibers. You need a stronger weapon.
          1. 0
            12 September 2022 07: 18
            Depends on the number of calibers produced.
    6. +41
      11 September 2022 21: 12
      Have you started taking off your gloves? Let's see how it goes. The Kharkov slap in the face should bring the Russian generals to their senses.
      1. +34
        11 September 2022 21: 26
        The generals can only be brought to their senses by the president, a trial or tribunal over them with a long term.
        1. +7
          11 September 2022 21: 28
          The generals can only be brought to their senses by the president and the court, the tribunal over them with a long term.
          Maybe there was a fear of such a prospect?
          1. +17
            11 September 2022 21: 29
            Maybe. When the enemy assault detachments were already approaching the border of Belgorod, probably someone shouted at them on the phone ...
            1. -3
              11 September 2022 22: 06
              Someone must have yelled at them on the phone...

              Do you think they woke up?
              1. -1
                12 September 2022 09: 09
                No, we didn't wake up. A one-time deal, most likely. Ukrainians have already repaired most of it, they have electricity.
        2. +4
          11 September 2022 21: 47
          What about the generals? They fight with the forces and within the framework that they indicated above ..
          1. -6
            11 September 2022 22: 18
            What for in general was it necessary to enter Kharkovskaya, if these forces were not there? They would catch the DRG along the border of Kharkov and Sumy.
          2. +1
            11 September 2022 22: 22
            And then the generals, that not one of them had the courage and courage to tell the top that the forces and means for such a special. operation is not enough. Everyone was shaking for their positions and shoulder straps.
            1. +1
              11 September 2022 22: 41
              Three days ago you drowned because the reserves were being transferred, we will not surrender Balakleya, this is just a lure for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, you will be ashamed of everything gone, and now it turned out the generals are to blame?
              1. -1
                12 September 2022 09: 17
                That we won’t surrender Balakleya (I didn’t write, don’t lie. I wrote that at that time our SOBR and OMON were holding on. And the army men made their way to them. And the fact that the retreat was ordered from above from all over the Kharkiv region - so the generals apparently see further actions to defeat the ukrov group "I myself am in shock, to be honest, from such a retreat, but this is not a reason to believe that everyone, we were defeated, we lost. No. Ahead of the battle, victory. The main thing is that President Putin wakes up from the sweet dream in which he is, receiving false reports from the generals and realized that it was time to fight and win, and not to disgrace the Russian army with cunning "relocations" (flight) according to Kanashenkov.
                1. -3
                  12 September 2022 09: 28
                  but this is not a reason to believe that everything, we were defeated, we lost.

                  Normal people don’t think so, but the fact that “it’s not easy” began to be said from the beginning of August, when “regroupings”, rotations near Donetsk and many months of silence near Kherson began. But like you said:
                  the generals apparently see further actions to defeat the ukrov group

                  And minus everyone who thought otherwise.
                  No. Ahead of the battle, victory. The main thing that

                  not battles, losses, victories, regroupings, battles, losses... victories?
                  1. -1
                    12 September 2022 12: 00
                    Check out my posts. I never justified the generals in the General Staff. On the contrary, I wish them a tribunal. I have always believed and was proud of our field soldiers, officers, rear. I believe them. Generals, unfortunately not.
                    1. -2
                      12 September 2022 12: 08
                      Generals, unfortunately not.

                      But the army cannot exist without them, what to do? This question should have been asked a year ago. Yes, only to whom.
                      1. -1
                        12 September 2022 12: 52
                        This question is for the Commander-in-Chief. That environment of the military leadership that is now next to it is the result of selection not for the professional qualities and talent of generals, but for loyalty and devotion. In the end, we have what we have. Real information comes from the bottom and from intelligence, but it is filtered and negative is sifted out, so that the report to the main one does not receive a dressing and removal. As a result, a rosy picture of the exemplary fulfillment of the tasks set is drawn in the Kremlin. All these ostentatious parades, exhibitions, amusing exercises for a beautiful picture on TV. That's just Western intelligence and staffs do not watch window dressing, they see the real state of affairs. Since the return of Crimea in the West, to NATO, they have drawn conclusions and started taking Russia seriously, looking for its strengths and weaknesses in military affairs. They began to prepare in earnest for the disintegration of Russia from within and the undoing of military successes in its campaign against Ukraine. Therefore, it is time for us, our General Staff, to wake up and seriously begin military and economic actions, and not to make a good face on a bad game.
    7. +29
      11 September 2022 21: 13
      Only these objects? Might have something else in the morning. The information background needs to be improved.
    8. +8
      11 September 2022 21: 14
      Right now, the partners are quickly organizing negotiations to restore the CHP
      1. Alf
        +5
        11 September 2022 21: 34
        Quote: Lis_Domino
        Right now, the partners are quickly organizing negotiations to restore the CHP

      2. +4
        11 September 2022 22: 24
        Macron called on Putin to stop the military operation in Ukraine
        The Elysee Palace announced another conversation between French President Macron and the Russian leader "in the coming days"

        Isn't it time to sever the lines of government communication with Geiropa?
    9. +6
      11 September 2022 21: 14
      Quote: Nightmare Ivanych
      However ...... they began to listen to the voices of commentators on VO. However .... It turns out they were right all the same?

      They occupied key positions in the General Staff.
      1. +3
        11 September 2022 21: 52
        So, where is my position? I already have preparations for the NBO operation in Azerbaijan, Belarus and Finland!
    10. +20
      11 September 2022 21: 15
      Yeah, Svidomo began to fire at their thermal power plants, it's also time to finish tours to Kuev.
    11. +40
      11 September 2022 21: 15
      The main thing is that this should not be a one-time event.
      1. -10
        11 September 2022 21: 24
        Yes, now the West will understand the howl and Peskov will immediately begin to apologize to him, and all the blows will stop.
        1. +10
          11 September 2022 21: 32
          Quote: TatarinSSSR
          Yes, now the West will understand the howl and Peskov will immediately begin to apologize to him, and all the blows will stop.

          And yet there is hope that we have finally STARTED.
        2. 0
          11 September 2022 22: 19
          Peskov will apologize, and many times, and sincerely. But the blows are unlikely to stop;)
    12. +18
      11 September 2022 21: 16
      It was not in vain that he went on a business trip to the former Ukraine, helped to switch over to the domestic energy system. It came in handy))))
      1. +2
        11 September 2022 21: 38
        Ukrainian networks have been connected to Europe since March.
        1. +6
          11 September 2022 22: 05
          Ukrainian networks have been connected to Europe since March.

          Don't talk nonsense. There is the Burshtyn energy island, which is synchronized with Europe for export. The main part, which, in particular, the Zaporizhzhya NPP was a part of, is not synchronized with either ours or the European energy system.
          1. +3
            11 September 2022 22: 09
            You may be right, but here's what I found:
            https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/statement_22_1789?fbclid=IwAR3RbYqd4MG-KLEYo6tLBFEg3dK3GkAB-lbghatPcrdZI7LWn_bPs4sQ5ws
            1. +4
              11 September 2022 22: 52
              You may be right, but here's what I found:
              https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/statement_22_1789?fbclid=IwAR3RbYqd4MG-KLEYo6tLBFEg3dK3GkAB-lbghatPcrdZI7LWn_bPs4sQ5ws

              It's funny, you know, now I looked for information on the Internet to confirm my words - and did not find it right away. For people who are not personally familiar with the energy situation in Ukraine by occupation, it was your opinion that should have been formed.
              However, the real situation I have described above.
              1. +2
                11 September 2022 23: 17
                I don't claim to be right. And yes, from Ukrainian. I'm not familiar with energy
            2. +4
              11 September 2022 23: 33
              Everything is correct, but only the Burshtyn energy island is looped with Europe, the rest of Ukraine is not connected to it. It was so far a trial balloon of Ukraine, because. there was an excess of electricity in this node
    13. +17
      11 September 2022 21: 16
      And who is protecting the right bank?
      1. +16
        11 September 2022 21: 28
        Not all at once. The goal of the bombings is not to leave civilians without light, namely the military. And they are concentrated on the left bank and in the south. Without electricity, the APU will have difficulty using NATO communications and the same drones. Whether Westerners have electricity is not so important. Although, for complete certainty, absolutely all power plants / electrical substations in Ukraine should be destroyed.
        1. +14
          11 September 2022 21: 32
          That, too, is the purpose. People should ask questions to management, and not to bars and clubs, as they do in Kyiv.
          1. +6
            11 September 2022 21: 43
            They will not ask questions, alas, because the hatred for the Russians is much stronger, and, by the way, turning off the electricity will not add popularity to us.
            It is just beneficial for us that as many of their youth as possible hang out in bars and clubs.
            But it is even more profitable to leave NATO radio stations and drones without electricity.
            1. +11
              11 September 2022 21: 56
              power outage will not add popularity to us.
              But it will make it clear to every Svidomo that the bear not plush.
            2. +4
              11 September 2022 22: 20
              By the way, power outage will not add popularity to us.

              Only a blitzkrieg would have added popularity to us, but since it did not happen, then back in March it was necessary to switch to plan B (and these are not negotiations).
            3. +1
              11 September 2022 22: 20
              Quote from gunnady
              But it is even more profitable to leave NATO radio stations and drones without electricity.

              It would be nice, but motor-generators will not allow this.
              1. +1
                11 September 2022 22: 33
                They will not allow it completely, but it will still become more difficult for the enemy. Now they can be plugged into an outlet in any home.
                1. -1
                  12 September 2022 12: 01
                  As a person who served in the Armed Forces just at the communication center, I’ll tell you straight. Yes, don't care the army for this. Maximum personal radios and mobile phones will be a little more difficult to charge. a portable generator weighing 30 kilos will charge all the radios of the company. And one diesel power plant -200 will power a battalion, if not a regiment. This only makes sense if we manage to block the supply of fuel and lubricants. But we did not manage to do this for all 7 months.
          2. +16
            11 September 2022 21: 44
            That, too, is the purpose.

            So the trains have stopped. Which means you won't be able to transfer it. The mobility of transfers is lost.
            1. +1
              11 September 2022 22: 12
              So the trains have stopped.

              It can't be?! So fast?! Right on September 10?!
              1. +5
                11 September 2022 22: 48
                The metro stopped.


                Yes, and trolleybuses are not happy with such voltage drops ...
                1. -3
                  12 September 2022 11: 54
                  stopping trolleybuses will undoubtedly hit hard on the transfer of troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine :)
        2. +2
          11 September 2022 23: 21
          Still, it is very important to leave Westerners without the benefits of civilization. Mykola must live without light, water up to his ears in his own given!
      2. +1
        11 September 2022 23: 23
        They give us a chance to change our minds, stop the shelling and give us the opportunity to launch the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant to supply electricity to the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions.
    14. +5
      11 September 2022 21: 17
      Well, at least something, you need to continue shelling power plants and industry. Well, yes, I’ll write right away so that many will not be surprised later, the enemy will also fire at our power plants and industrial enterprises in response.
      1. +28
        11 September 2022 21: 20
        the enemy in response will also fire at our power plants and industrial enterprises.

        He thrashed everything he could get his hands on.
      2. +8
        11 September 2022 21: 27
        What he reached for, so he fired.
    15. +26
      11 September 2022 21: 17
      Really, (censorship removed the swear word), finally
      It took 7 (SEVEN!) months for our leadership to finally understand what needs to be done.
      1. +15
        11 September 2022 21: 24
        Your optimism can be envied, mine disappeared in seven months.
      2. +16
        11 September 2022 21: 28
        I would like to believe. But I don't think so, to be honest. Something is wrong with our leadership, they are trying to play some kind and noble in the war, when the other side simply wants to destroy us. Such relaxation has never brought anyone to good.
        1. +10
          11 September 2022 21: 30
          It remains to be hoped that the failure near Balakleya finally brought our General Staff to life
      3. +2
        11 September 2022 22: 15
        There is one thing here, but will it fly to our thermal power plants in response?
        This had to be done at the very beginning of the NMD, when the Ukrainians did not have long-range systems, and now they already have plenty of them.
    16. +22
      11 September 2022 21: 18
      It will not be enough.
      Why only half of the regions?
      1. +17
        11 September 2022 21: 26
        Quote: Translator
        It will not be enough.
        Why only half of the regions?

        That's right, the entire outskirts should plunge into darkness. Still, the comments of the commander-in-chief on TV that this will happen to everyone who opens their stinking mouth on Russia.
      2. +6
        11 September 2022 21: 41
        Because three objects are hit. CHP in Dergachi, Zmiev and Kremenchug. And rightly so, that they synchronized with the shutdown of the ZNPP.
      3. +1
        11 September 2022 23: 26
        Because Putin, as always, in his repertoire, is trying to please both ours and yours, and to please everyone. CBO also started with half-measures, which is only worth his meme "we haven't started yet"! Or how in 2014 he limited himself only to Crimea, although there was every chance to annex all of Novorossia to Russia (Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa), but no, Putin wanted to please the West, that's it limited only to the Crimea. And now, too, half-measures, half-measures, half-measures...
    17. +33
      11 September 2022 21: 18
      In general, the power plants had to be destroyed half a year ago.
      1. +11
        11 September 2022 22: 07
        In general, the power plants had to be destroyed half a year ago.

        Well it is more like Yes. The beginning of a major military operation is not when marching columns enter cities to be shot, but when everything is cut off on enemy territory. Electricity, communications, radio broadcasts are jammed, bridges, barracks, command posts, military registration and enlistment offices, military factories, weapons depots and fuel and lubricants are being destroyed. And then the troops move in.
        But this is not our reality, unfortunately.
        1. +3
          11 September 2022 23: 09
          We can't do that. Patamushta we are kind.
          1. +1
            12 September 2022 08: 39
            Rather, we put down our soldiers, and electric trains bring equipment from the EU and the USA, some factories are working. Every kilowatt generated in Ukraine is the life of our soldier.
    18. +15
      11 September 2022 21: 21
      ura wojewat nacali poka grom ne granet muzik ne perekrestitsa cerez zadnicu uma rozuma pribawilos pocemu 200dnej zdali
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    19. +35
      11 September 2022 21: 21
      It is necessary that people under Ukraine live worse than in those territories that are under Russia. Whereas the wind will blow away the arrogance of the Europeans to the inhabitants of Kherson and Donbass. Trample them into the stone age! am
      1. +2
        11 September 2022 22: 58
        Quote: Horon
        It is necessary that people under Ukraine live worse than in those territories that are under Russia. Whereas the wind will blow away the arrogance of the Europeans to the inhabitants of Kherson and Donbass. Trample them into the stone age!

        Those who trample others trample themselves.
        I would prefer the following interpretation: It is necessary that people under Russia live better than in those territories that are under Ukraine. Whereas the wind will blow away the arrogance of the Europeans to the inhabitants of Kherson and Donbass. hi
        1. 0
          12 September 2022 06: 58
          Those who trample others trample themselves.
          I would prefer the following interpretation: It is necessary that people under Russia live better than in those territories that are under Ukraine.

          Sanctions against Russia, shelling, constant reports of the "mining" of public institutions, sabotage and Ukraine became the source of this, so we began to live worse than they, and even more so their fellow citizens who were under Russia, whom they immediately began to harm in every possible way. This is a one-sided game and without playing back, we will ALWAYS be defeated.
          And you argue as if the game is fair, no one is asking for sanctions for a neighbor, no strikes on infrastructure, no sabotage. It's time to move away from romantic views on confrontation and start playing hard. So your point of view is fundamentally wrong.
    20. -12
      11 September 2022 21: 22
      And can someone explain - in general, how will this stop the retreat of the Russian army?
      1. +17
        11 September 2022 21: 35
        To begin with, the Ukrainian offensive will be slowed down.
        1. +4
          11 September 2022 23: 02
          And do the impossible retreat APU by the way. Which has got in the wrong place in recent days .... Everything ... I am silent and waiting ....
          1. +1
            11 September 2022 23: 05
            As long as there are bridges, they will run on foot and in civilian vehicles.
      2. +9
        11 September 2022 21: 47
        Quote: Prometey
        how does it stop the retreat

        No electricity - no movement on the railroad - no transfer of reserves and ammunition.
        1. +1
          11 September 2022 23: 22
          No electricity - no movement on the railroad - no transfer of reserves and ammunition.

          Truth? Is the General Staff aware or did they get there?
    21. +7
      11 September 2022 21: 22
      I am surprised at the constant statements of ukrotrols about the need to use nuclear weapons. You fools do not understand that, following the results of the NWO, Ukraine will become part of Russia. And why should we use nuclear weapons? This is the same as we would use it on our territory ...
      But ukrotrol and logic are not intersecting things ....
      1. +6
        11 September 2022 21: 26
        I highly doubt it to be honest. If there was such a goal in the manual, everything would have to be done the other way around and not the way they do it.
      2. 0
        12 September 2022 07: 12
        Before entering, they must be kept in strict quarantine for another 40 years, otherwise we will have to feed them, and in return we will get a whole army of oppositionists and saboteurs. Joining them at once is not a very reasonable decision. They do not want to join, they had a negative attitude towards Russia, and after their own they will be even more so. They have a lot of debts and there will be a huge pile of cripples and victims as a result of their own. So why do we need this trailer of problems, which will have to be pulled without a chance for gratitude. Only by ourselves, but under the strict management and control of our representatives and assistance from our side only with the intended use and for our benefit. For meanness and hatred, they must suffer and pay, not even pay indemnity to us, but pay themselves, their citizens who will be affected as a result of anti-Russian development.
    22. +34
      11 September 2022 21: 22
      After half a year of hostilities in the NMD in Ukraine, the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces suddenly, unexpectedly, with the help of super-complex and dangerous intelligence operations, found out that thermal power plants operate in Ukraine, there is electricity, the Internet. This information turned out to be extremely unexpected and difficult for the Russian generals to comprehend....
      1. +9
        11 September 2022 21: 31
        No matter how they need another six months to understand that it is necessary to destroy bridges, communication towers, factories, etc.
      2. 0
        11 September 2022 21: 39
        Most likely there was an order from above not to touch. Why embitter people
        1. +14
          11 September 2022 22: 02
          Quote: Sergey V
          Most likely there was an order from above not to touch. Why embitter people

          You might think that they were all good there. Or did not have to communicate with them on the Internet. Many relatives who live in Ukraine curse the Russians. Sisters abandoned brothers, children abandoned their parents. This system has been going on since 2014.
          1. ada
            0
            12 September 2022 01: 13
            Cut off another 25 years - it will be more accurate.
      3. 0
        11 September 2022 23: 25
        This information turned out to be extremely unexpected and difficult for the Russian generals to comprehend....

        Two can re-educate: the Supreme and the advanced. The first has no time, the second can't wait.
    23. +8
      11 September 2022 21: 23
      This adds some optimism. But now you need to monitor your energy system in both ways, they want to do dirty tricks in response, don’t go to your grandmother
      1. +7
        11 September 2022 21: 33
        Yes, from the very beginning of the NWO in Russia, strange accidents similar to terrorist attacks have been happening here and there. At least remember that fire in a military research institute. And enemy drones and even helicopters flew into other objects.
        I hope that since then our special services have taken appropriate measures.
        1. 0
          11 September 2022 23: 17
          At the research institute, they could immediately connect everything that had not worked since 1984 to electrical wiring of the same age. But these are purely my thoughts.
    24. +12
      11 September 2022 21: 23
      They heard my curses against MO .. You need to spit so as not to jinx it!
      1. +4
        11 September 2022 22: 05
        Quote: VLAD-96
        They heard my curses against MO .. You need to spit so as not to jinx it!

        I say the same thing, as long as we don’t limit ourselves to half measures again. Why don't they touch the right bank - Kyiv and Lvov.
    25. +7
      11 September 2022 21: 24
      There are such cool videos in the cart, like uk-ry commenting on flights and explosions - you can watch it endlessly!
      1. +10
        11 September 2022 21: 27
        By the way, just now I thought - tomorrow we may not see new vidos. Not every smartphone comes with a diesel generator.
        1. +4
          11 September 2022 21: 30
          Tomorrow they will recharge from the car, but the day after tomorrow ...
        2. 0
          11 September 2022 23: 09
          Quote: Translator
          By the way, just now I thought - tomorrow we may not see new vidos. Not every smartphone comes with a diesel generator.

          A smartphone and a solar battery will suffice. Expensive, but those who shoot and upload videos are not so many. A budget option for recharging is forgotten hand-held flashlights with a dynamometer from the middle of the last century. Well, BS - each has a UPS and motor generators.
          1. -3
            11 September 2022 23: 39
            Filmed by random people who happen to be nearby, not special bloggers with equipment.
            Here, among my friends, no one has solar charging, I think, and ordinary Ukrainians have the same.
            1. 0
              12 September 2022 00: 38
              Quote: Translator
              Here, among my friends, no one has solar charging, I think, and ordinary Ukrainians have the same.

              Yes, and I don't, but order a stray like "Power bank standalone solar powered with dual USB." Not expensive at all and shipped fairly quickly. Yes
      2. 0
        11 September 2022 22: 07
        Quote: Translator
        There are such cool vids in the cart,

        Please give me a link.
        1. -5
          11 September 2022 22: 39
          https://t.me/WarDonbass/78849
    26. +10
      11 September 2022 21: 24
      They write that they urgently began to extinguish Khmelnitsky and some other nuclear power plant in the west until they rushed ...
      1. +8
        11 September 2022 21: 25
        I mean overload...
        1. +10
          11 September 2022 21: 34
          I mean overload...

          surges and fluctuations in consumption from rolling blackouts lead to the shutdown of the station. And, accordingly, to the acceleration of the reactor. To prevent this, jamming rods are dropped
    27. +15
      11 September 2022 21: 25
      Add to this the liquidation of Zeli with the company. So the war can be won by chance.
      As always, everything is slow and stupid. It seems that they do not have the task of fulfilling the goals of the NWO, but there is the task of “being in the process as long as possible” and, accordingly, increasing the escalation very gradually.
      1. -25
        11 September 2022 21: 34
        Alas, the greenery will not be liquidated. For such a special operation, a sudden rocket may already fly through the Kremlin.
        1. +8
          11 September 2022 21: 56
          Whose? Will it fly? And back...
          1. -8
            11 September 2022 22: 09
            NATO is understandable. Judging by the bridges broken by himars, they will fly, there is no doubt. In the return line, if they fly, then intercontinental and nuclear. But no one wants to come to this.
            The kings do not destroy each other, for this there are common people. It's always been that way.
          2. 0
            12 September 2022 04: 52
            And not a rocket, but a bo-n-ba
        2. 0
          12 September 2022 06: 31
          Moscow has 4 anti-missile defense belts
      2. +2
        11 September 2022 21: 36
        "liquidation of Zelensky" - the dreams of their right-wing radicals. They intend to nominate their own, the Minister of Defense, he is more like the radicals.
        If so, nafig help the enemy!
        In WWII, Stalin forbade the elimination of Hitler, but only the entire regime
      3. +6
        11 September 2022 21: 38
        Fuck him to eliminate, on the contrary, it should be brought closer to the command of the troops.
      4. 0
        11 September 2022 23: 30
        Add to this the liquidation of Zeli with the company. So the war can be won by chance.

        Zelya, he dangles through the bunkers, and the bridges (across the Dnieper) both stood and stand.
    28. +18
      11 September 2022 21: 25
      Ukrainians, just don't stop shelling your stations.
      1. +10
        11 September 2022 21: 36
        Still, they would somehow accidentally get into the gas pipeline to Europe, which runs through the Sumy region. IMHO it's time to start getting colder.
    29. +2
      11 September 2022 21: 25
      Its means the roof said ay finally. Ours is long overdue to put in a pose irrevocably.
    30. +3
      11 September 2022 21: 25
      Oh really? Finally wait for strikes on the General Staff? Let there be no one there, but how much you can play politics.
    31. +11
      11 September 2022 21: 25
      Maybe it's that ... Self-shelling? what
      1. +4
        11 September 2022 21: 29
        Undoubtedly. Or perhaps a festive fireworks from the peremoga flew there.
      2. +3
        11 September 2022 22: 10
        Quote: Landwarrior
        Maybe it's that ... Self-shelling?

        Most likely the air conditioners explode. Poor quality caught.
        1. +1
          11 September 2022 23: 00
          Now I thought it was part of the offensive. Under the cover of darkness, they move equipment. recourse
      3. 0
        12 September 2022 00: 19
        Maybe. Or the air conditioners went out.
    32. +26
      11 September 2022 21: 26
      Also, blocks of the KhNPP of the South Ukraine NPP fell off, without light -
      1. +6
        11 September 2022 21: 35
        I just can't believe it!
        Here it is not a sin to shout - Hurray !!!!
        1. +5
          11 September 2022 21: 58
          And 150 is not a sin, but even necessary
      2. +2
        11 September 2022 21: 41
        What they write in the news:
        Parts of Kharkov, Sumy, Zaporozhye, Donetsk, Dnepropetrovsk and Poltava regions were left without electricity.

        This is reported by "Public" and the head of the OVA.

        In the Sumy region, the voltage in the power grid dropped. The area's electrical system remains unstable due to destruction from enemy bombing raids in March.
      3. +2
        11 September 2022 21: 41
        Only it is necessary to hit not at thermal power plants, they will still be useful to us, but at the centers of operational dispatch service - this will generally throw the energy system of Ukraine into blackout. For a long time.
        As for thermal power plants, if necessary, when they completely stop the remaining nuclear power plants.
      4. +1
        11 September 2022 23: 17
        Quote: Rus2012
        Also, blocks of the KhNPP of the South Ukraine NPP fell off, without light -

        It would be better if they all fell off three hours before the fireworks in Moscow.
        It would be great. good
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    33. -21
      11 September 2022 21: 27
      But is it not enough spirit to strike at the transshipment points of weapons on the territory of NATO countries?
      After all, Americans are also satisfied with this option if we leave the population of Ukraine without electricity and heat in the winter. It will be easier to mobilize. Moreover, for the Americans, the main thing is that we kill each other.
      1. +5
        11 September 2022 21: 53
        Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
        It will be easier to mobilize.

        Yeah, just like that they rushed into mobilization.
        And who will carry firewood to mothers-grandmothers and splinter a splinter?
        1. -1
          11 September 2022 22: 19
          Have you noticed that there are no problems with personnel there?
      2. 0
        11 September 2022 22: 21
        Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
        It will be easier to mobilize


        to catch on the borders to Europe Ukrainians fleeing in search of light and warmth?
        1. +1
          11 September 2022 22: 50
          Hooray-patriotism and hatred is a personal matter, but you need to be able to face the truth.
          Propaganda in Ukraine is staged very competently. And they have motivation. Because who will run away from the war, and who will just go to war, and there will be more than enough of them. Do not think that there are only cowards.
          In addition, why did you get the idea that if a mass exodus of the population from Ukraine begins, then it will be exclusively to Europe?
          Here, too, I will disappoint you, the main flow will fall on Russia.
          (as a reference for the EG generation, family ties between Ukrainians and Russians are high, and the migration mixing of the population over the years of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR is very high)
          1. +2
            11 September 2022 23: 06
            Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
            and who just goes to war


            judging by the way Ukrainian military registration and enlistment offices catch on the streets, we can say that those who want to personally run to the war are rapidly running out.

            Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
            Here, too, I will disappoint you, the main flow will fall on Russia.


            well, it’s good anyhow “get out of the beach,” or rather, from Ukraine, because the fewer of them there, the less Kyiv’s mobilization resource. True, I can hardly imagine how those of them who will be in fascist and Bandera tattoos will be able to pass the filtration at the border.
            1. +1
              12 September 2022 09: 01
              judging by the way Ukrainian military registration and enlistment offices catch on the streets, we can say that those who want to personally run to the war are rapidly running out.


              However, they were able to create an advantage in manpower.

              well, it’s good anyhow “get out of the beach,” or rather, from Ukraine, because the fewer of them there, the less Kyiv’s mobilization resource. True, I can hardly imagine how those of them who will be in fascist and Bandera tattoos will be able to pass the filtration at the border.


              Do you think there are all in Bandera tattoos? So you are wrong. Most are normal people. Moreover, many men in the liberated territories, or from among the refugees in the Russian Federation, are ready to join the armed forces, but here our bureaucracy stands as a wall.
      3. -1
        12 September 2022 12: 02
        And what will be the answer after this blow?
        1. 0
          12 September 2022 12: 17
          And our government, what are the goals of this special. operations declared?
          1. -1
            12 September 2022 12: 26
            Denazification and demilitarization.
            1. 0
              12 September 2022 12: 30
              Isn't that the same as genocide?
              1. -1
                12 September 2022 12: 32
                No. Not the same.
                1. 0
                  12 September 2022 13: 52
                  And what is another name for a war against civilians?
                  1. -1
                    12 September 2022 14: 17
                    You answered her question, what will be the answer after the strike on NATO.

                    The destruction of civilian infrastructure is not considered genocide.

                    And as for the civilians, let them dump themselves on firewood (after the power plants are disabled), and not on drones for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
                    1. 0
                      12 September 2022 17: 37
                      You answered her question, what will be the answer after the strike on NATO.


                      And there will be none, they have already made all their moves. And they themselves are much more afraid of a nuclear war.

                      The destruction of civilian infrastructure is not considered genocide.


                      The Germans called it a scorched earth tactic. The allies in Dresden worked out according to the Douai doctrine.
                      1. -1
                        12 September 2022 17: 46
                        And if it does? I don't have the same confidence as you.

                        Not only our Anglo-American allies, and the French bombed until the surrender, and the USSR.
                        1. 0
                          12 September 2022 17: 53
                          And if it does? I don't have the same confidence as you.


                          Getting into a fight you need to be ready to go to the end. And clearly indicate your position, so that they know that they supply weapons, which means the enemy.
                          And if there is no such will, then it was not good to get into a fight. Here, as in kindergarten, according to the principle "to first blood" will not work.
                          Not only our Anglo-American allies, and the French bombed until the surrender, and the USSR.

                          Come on, when did the USSR intentionally destroy the civilian population?
                        2. -1
                          12 September 2022 18: 03
                          Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
                          Getting into a fight you need to be ready to go to the end. And clearly indicate your position, so that they know that they supply weapons, which means the enemy.
                          And if there is no such will, then it was not good to get into a fight. Here, as in kindergarten, according to the principle "to first blood" will not work.

                          I agree, especially since the president warned that if they try to intervene, then measures will be taken.

                          Quote: vovochkarzhevsky

                          Come on, when did the USSR intentionally destroy the civilian population?

                          I did not write that the USSR deliberately destroyed the population, and did not propose to destroy it now in Ukraine, but suggested hitting civilian infrastructure (not residential areas).

                          "And the planes are flying, flying, as if from a breakthrough. Bombs are pouring, exploding in the deep German rear - in East Prussia, in Central Germany! And the Soviet radio announcer Yuri Levitan, whom Hitler promised to hang as soon as the German boot sets foot in Moscow, solemnly broadcasts to everyone world: "A large group of our aircraft bombarded the military-industrial facilities of Berlin, Koenigsberg, Danzig, Stettin ..."

                          “We, the pilots, all the crews, everyone who was in the unit at the moment, gathered near the loudspeaker and listened in strict silence. Yes, this is about us, about our work, about our affairs. We understood: now this message from the Soviet Information Bureau is listening to the whole country. Listening are women workers, recent housewives who have replaced their husbands at the machine tools, preparing weapons and ammunition for the front. Collective farmers, alone in depopulated villages, feeding the army and the city, harnessing themselves to plows to plow the land, because there are almost no horses. They listened to this report, and it became easier in their souls: it means that not only the Nazis are bombing ours, but ours are also giving them ... And infantrymen, artillerymen, sappers - all branches of the armed forces who have experienced "and" Messerschmitts ", they also became more cheerful, and faith in our final victory grew stronger. And the pilots of the ADD - Long-Range Aviation - straightened their shoulders: no, nothing passes without a trace, and our victims too. Let the German burghers not sleep at night and tremble with fear. Let their Hans and Fritz on the front line receive disturbing news from home. Let! We will bomb their factories, bridges, railway trains even harder, sow panic in their rear. We knew that the bombing raids of our aviation on the deep rear of the enemy made an overwhelming impression on the enemies. The Russians have no aviation, but the bombs are raining down - and leaflets with the bombs.

                          / Memoirs
                          Tikhomolov Boris Ermilovich (GSS)
                          Romance of the sky
                        3. 0
                          12 September 2022 19: 19
                          I agree, especially since the president warned that if they try to intervene, then measures will be taken.


                          And in the end, no more words went.

                          I did not write that the USSR deliberately destroyed the population, and did not propose to destroy it now in Ukraine, but suggested hitting civilian infrastructure (not residential areas).


                          You see, everything must be done on time. Do this in February, when it’s close to warm, but it’s still cold, it could still work, stir up the population. And it was time to make things right.
                          And imagine now, in the winter, millions of people will be left without electricity, which means heat, water supply, sewerage, and even in times of covid. It's like killing.
                          And do not give an analogy with Nazi Germany. If you think so, it means that your brains have already been washed by American propaganda. One should not think that only the citizens of Ukraine are being fooled on TV, the same is being done with the citizens of Russia, only through the Internet the intruders under the guise of patriots.
                          For the goal is not only for the citizens of Ukraine to hate the Russians, but for there to be a counter hatred. Better to kill themselves. For all of us are Great Russians, Little Russians and Belarusians are just Russian people. There is much less difference between our three languages ​​than there is between variations of English or German.
                          And we have already killed each other in civilian life, only history has taught us nothing.
                        4. -1
                          13 September 2022 06: 54
                          What actions, in your opinion, should be taken in the current halt at the front?
                        5. 0
                          13 September 2022 10: 10
                          First of all, they are afraid to stop and hide behind the terminology of the NWO. To announce to the "Western partners" that the supply of weapons is regarded as aggression. They will not understand, to strike at transit points on the territory of neighboring states and do not care three times that they are NATO.
                        6. -1
                          13 September 2022 10: 21
                          Understand why you are so sure that they will not answer? You can elaborate on the arguments.
                        7. 0
                          13 September 2022 10: 40
                          You see, they have already begun, it is precisely we who must answer.
                          And they are afraid that suddenly a nuclear war means to be defeated by non-nuclear forces. Read above, I said everything there.
                        8. -1
                          13 September 2022 11: 11
                          So there is only one option to strike at Poland.
                        9. 0
                          13 September 2022 12: 32
                          And in Slovakia too.
                        10. -1
                          13 September 2022 12: 40
                          Here's another question.
                          When military cargoes go, how much they are concentrated in large quantities at various transshipment points (both in NATO countries and in Ukraine) or are they still dispersed into small parties in order to go further.
                          Will there be an effect from the impact.
                        11. 0
                          13 September 2022 13: 46
                          It will be when they realize that they are not untouchable.
                          And this, too, must be stopped.

                          Snapshot in the city of Sovetsk on the 5th of the current month. An empty man from Lithuania came. And then, for their part, they have sanctions, and they need oil and other minerals.
                        12. -1
                          13 September 2022 18: 41
                          Let's see, but there is no question of this campaign.
    34. +15
      11 September 2022 21: 28
      It was Ukrainian gangs that hit their own substations and thermal power plants, tomorrow they will blame and jump ...
    35. 0
      11 September 2022 21: 29
      "option with the shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, have they completely degenerated,?
    36. +13
      11 September 2022 21: 30
      This is a clear self-attack (probably from calibers). To accuse Russia of attacking civilian targets....
      But now the desire to fire at the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant by the Armed Forces of Ukraine will probably cease, since they have nowhere to take energy from.
      It’s only surprising why they didn’t think of self-shelling earlier in order to stop shelling the nuclear power plant?
      1. 0
        11 September 2022 21: 57
        Right now I'm reading VO and I see Ukrainian YouTube, how they use the same phrases "crossbows", "smoked in the wrong place", etc.
        Damn, how people have slipped to mutual insults. And at the same time, both sides use similar terminology, only there is less bloodthirstiness and hatred on the Russian side (as pro-Ukrainians say, Ukrainians can do it, they were attacked).
        Still, no matter what anyone said, the West blew us off. Well, there was no such hatred in the USSR. What now.
        All Ukraine considers Russia an aggressor-barbarian, and the entire civilized world considers it its sincere friends. This is pure kindergarten. History that no one remembers / does not teach. After all, all the way these friends only thought about how to attack, harm, chop off something for themselves. And suddenly all of a sudden became champions of justice.
        Obviously, there are no positive characters. There are less negative ones and more negative ones.
        1. +11
          11 September 2022 22: 18
          The entire civilized world? Who is this? Are they the ones who smashed the flourishing and rich Libya and turned it into a breeding ground for terrorists and gangs? Who ravaged Iraq and put their puppets there? Who has ravaged Syria with gangs and terrorists and is now stealing its oil? Who bombed the cities and villages of Yugoslavia? Who tried to bring Afghanistan to its knees and fled from there? Who calls parents by number one and two, and teaches children that they can sleep with each other and engage in intimacy, even same-sex? And thousands of other examples. Is this a civilized world?
          1. +2
            11 September 2022 22: 42
            Such a schedule. Ukrainians beat themselves in the chest and prove that we are outcasts / scumbags / aggressors, from the North Korea series, and all democratic countries are for them. And what is unacceptable for us is normal for them. Same-sex relationships, all sorts of non-gender individuals. As if trances go to the same toilet with the girls. And, as I understand it, the concept of "feminine" is erased. They change it to some kind of neuter bullshit.

            And only the lazy did not go to Zelensky for the order. Or even not for the order, just to support Ukraine. All sorts of Orlando Blooms, Jessica Chastain, Angelina Jolie, Bono, a bunch of US senators. (Maybe not everyone from this list came, but everyone supported him for sure.) And what orders he gives - Yaroslav the Wise. What does this person have to do with Yaroslav the Wise. But in their world, Ukraine was created in time immemorial. Russia is Kievan, and Kyiv is Ukraine. And at the same time it was immediately nationally independent. Some nonsense.
        2. 0
          11 September 2022 23: 23
          Dill talk about self-shelling in all seriousness. Russians - joking over dill propaganda clichés.
        3. RGB
          +2
          12 September 2022 06: 21
          Dear! He lived until 1991 in Ukraine, studied at the Russian-Ukrainian school. We Russians were no longer tolerated by the Ukrainians. My mother, a mathematics teacher, the wife of an officer, taught in a purely Ukrainian school and heard so many insults from Ukrainians in her address.
    37. +4
      11 September 2022 21: 30
      Yes, this is bullshit, they are not afraid without light. They are ghouls...
      1. +8
        11 September 2022 21: 45
        don't worry about the light.
        And without water and sewerage?
        1. +5
          11 September 2022 22: 06
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          don't worry about the light.

          And without water and sewerage?

          Yes, strictly speaking - no civilization at all. You can't fill up a car at a gas station without a "light". That is transport - yok. That is, the delivery of products is also yok. And in the city, the supply of food, as a rule, is small ... well, up to a week somewhere.

          And then - you can engage in hunting and cannibalism wassat
          1. RGB
            -1
            12 September 2022 06: 25
            For large network companies, these are trifles. Standby generators will be pulled up and refrigeration equipment will be launched. The fuel for the generator will be covered by the increase in food prices. The same goes for gas stations. It is necessary to destroy both oil depots and other electrical substations in the complex, then there will be a result. And this is so...
    38. +2
      11 September 2022 21: 30
      Quote from N3onMiami
      Really, finally
      It took 7 (SEVEN!) months for our leadership to finally understand what needs to be done.

      They are difficult to piss.
    39. +1
      11 September 2022 21: 31
      This is just impotence and informational reason to smooth over our biggest defeat since 1942.
      Until the plywood marshal, the chief of the General Staff, responsible for the rearmament of the army, and those mediocrities who commanded near Balakliya are arrested and given to the court of a military tribunal, we will continue to suffer defeats further.
      1. +2
        11 September 2022 21: 40
        we will continue to suffer defeats and further.

        Maybe not, but removal from office and a pension are clearly not enough. Even though we have a moratorium on the death penalty, someone must publicly answer for the deaths of thousands of soldiers in the General Staff.
        1. -4
          11 September 2022 21: 55
          Gsh is just following orders. You know who. Present to him
          1. +2
            11 September 2022 21: 58
            I understand everything, but you yourself know who is not a military man and one person cannot plan military operations, neither Suvorov nor Kutuzov, they all had headquarters. And this headquarters must answer. They were taught, they were paid a salary and received stars for this, but now they can only shift papers?
      2. -4
        11 September 2022 21: 51
        You are a thousand times right. Yes, Americans use similar methods to infect with democracy, but at the same time they do not hide that they are going to bomb into the Stone Age.
        But in our country, a "special operation" was launched under the slogan of almost liberating Ukraine, and from every rostrum they declared that we were not fighting against the civilian population. What's the next step, carpet bombing?
        1. +7
          11 September 2022 21: 58
          Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
          You are a thousand times right. Yes, Americans use similar methods to infect with democracy, but at the same time they do not hide that they are going to bomb into the Stone Age.
          But in our country, a "special operation" was launched under the slogan of almost liberating Ukraine, and from every rostrum they declared that we were not fighting against the civilian population. What's the next step, carpet bombing?

          Yes, even so, carpet bombing, do you feel sorry for them? They will come here - they will not regret you. We must fight a cruel and dangerous enemy for our existence.
          1. 0
            11 September 2022 22: 36
            Then what the hell was all this dancing back and forth for? Why did they put the heads of the soldiers, then entering, then withdrawing the troops. If this is the case, then it was necessary to start with this immediately.
            And if it comes to that, then yes, I feel sorry for the ordinary people of Ukraine, despite their brainwashed propaganda, this is treated quite quickly by counter-propaganda.
            And here are our intelligence leaders and analysts who were unable to either assess or predict the situation, since they had long turned their service into a sinecure, and therefore wished for reality and therefore gave the state a reason to get involved in the war on far from the most favorable conditions, the armies that they relied only on the nuclear umbrella and otherwise dealt only with the external side without calculating the actual needs, the states that have only one concern for big capital, and therefore do not want to change anything, they no longer arouse anything but hatred.
            1. +1
              11 September 2022 23: 32
              You can't take back what you've done, but it's better to be corrected than to live in mistakes.
              1. 0
                12 September 2022 09: 03
                The trouble is that instead of correcting errors, new ones are made.
        2. -2
          11 September 2022 23: 14
          In general, I think that we no longer have time and we have already lost the CBO. They mobilized, armed and coordinated the 700-strong army and did not show their teeth until they were fully ready. Now they outnumber us many times in manpower and intelligence, and they will try to deliver powerful blows, and the Kharkiv region is just the beginning.
          In the next month, everything will be decided, therefore, we will not be able to carry out mobilization, and their leadership, unlike ours, will have the brains not to wait for us.
      3. ban
        +2
        11 September 2022 22: 03
        So why shoot?
        In the penal companies of pigs and on Khokhlyatsky machine guns
      4. +3
        11 September 2022 22: 20
        And here the all-propellers pulled themselves up ... why didn’t they react for so long? We here decided that you precipitated...
        1. -1
          11 September 2022 23: 25
          Have you fallen out after recent events? We are at least mentally prepared to hear that the enemy shamefully runs after our valiant troops
          1. +1
            12 September 2022 07: 00
            As for the others, I won’t say ... but I don’t. I understand perfectly well that military operations are not exercises. And that's why you don't understand this... interesting. And yes, you are not ready. You are the same as the "hat throwers" only with a minus sign.
        2. -1
          11 September 2022 23: 45
          Dropped it on a fan? Did you earn your 5 cents? Oh and Alyosha.
          1. 0
            12 September 2022 07: 00
            Where would you like to go?
      5. +6
        11 September 2022 22: 27
        Quote: ramzay21
        It's just impotence


        impotence is when you are screwed with a tire iron and you wave a fan, although you can easily knock them out in a few blows.

        Quote: ramzay21
        Until the plywood marshal, chief of the General Staff, responsible for the rearmament of the army are arrested and given to the military tribunal


        yes, we will arrest Zelya and Zaluzhny, although the surname, as it were, hints that in the case of a serious nix, they have prepared the very place behind a large puddle.
      6. 0
        11 September 2022 23: 33
        Have you prepared your leather coat and revolver yet?
      7. -3
        12 September 2022 00: 58
        This is just impotence and informational reason to smooth over our biggest defeat since 1942.

        In 1989, apparently, a brilliant victory was won?
    40. +17
      11 September 2022 21: 33
      Now half of the ukrotrols on the site will disappear ...
      Particularly notorious will scribble under diesel generators ...
      1. 0
        11 September 2022 21: 40
        Kyiv is not on the list
      2. +10
        11 September 2022 21: 46
        half of the trolleys will be gone.
        More than half of these animals from Poland and Canada writes.
        1. 0
          12 September 2022 05: 53
          from smartphones and tablets they will start to fuck if anything. behind them will not rust.
    41. +3
      11 September 2022 21: 37
      these strikes would see the 3rd Corps in action. Maybe it appears when there is no light
    42. +3
      11 September 2022 21: 37
      At the same time, most of the all-propellers fell off.
      1. +7
        11 September 2022 21: 44
        Quote: Incvizitor
        At the same time, most of the all-weapons fell off

        Duc without light in the network will not go out request laughing
        1. +4
          11 September 2022 22: 53
          I went out.
          The generator started. I warm tea on the fire.
          1. +2
            11 September 2022 22: 58
            Quote: Simple
            Generator started

            Not everyone has that luxury. And again - the provider also has no light in the outlet, how do you like it?
            1. 0
              14 September 2022 23: 21
              And if the provider is "space"?

              There was a banter in general.
      2. 0
        11 September 2022 21: 48
        So they would do so right away - there would be nothing to criticize for.
      3. +7
        11 September 2022 21: 56
        So the news is positive. "All-weapons" just wanted to strike at critical infrastructure - power plants, bridges, railway stations.
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        2. -1
          12 September 2022 12: 23
          Well, yes. And the patriots explained for 7 months that this cannot be done. That it is more convenient to beat the supply of weapons when they all gather in a heap and we will cover them at once. Well, here we are. And where? So what? or from the need to lure closer to Rostov.?
      4. +1
        11 September 2022 22: 01
        Quote: Incvizitor
        At the same time, most of the all-weapons fell off

        Also noticed. The air has become cleaner
      5. 0
        11 September 2022 22: 01
        In fact, now Belgorod will not protect against shelling, it should have been done in early August. But, better late than never.
      6. +1
        11 September 2022 22: 22
        Yes ... there are few of them here. laughing laughing laughing
    43. +4
      11 September 2022 21: 38
      "Let there be light," Banderlog said and lit a candle.....
    44. +7
      11 September 2022 21: 38
      There was infa, unverified, that there were tacit agreements on Kharkov on a truce in exchange for infrastructure, specifically for a gas field. Therefore, ours did not twitch.
      1. +6
        11 September 2022 21: 41
        Quote: freddyk
        There was infa, unverified, that there were tacit agreements on Kharkov on a truce in exchange for infrastructure, specifically on a gas field

        There was such an infa. And it is very similar to the truth.
      2. +2
        11 September 2022 21: 48
        Explain? That is, stopping the Armed Forces of Ukraine in exchange for infrastructure?? And they broke the contract?
        1. +10
          11 September 2022 21: 51
          Well, like, yes, they don’t attack, we don’t touch. They broke the deal.
          1. +3
            11 September 2022 21: 54
            Well, then it turns out that they were ready for such a development. Otherwise, all this is not clear.
            1. +6
              11 September 2022 22: 04
              Quote: SerAp
              Well, then it turns out that they were ready for such a development. Otherwise, all this is not clear.

              They are not free in their decisions. The Pentagon decides for them. Pour oil on the fire, otherwise everything began to fade.
              1. ada
                +1
                12 September 2022 02: 00
                Presumably, the level of agreement was somewhat higher: "US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken made an unannounced visit to Kyiv today, September 8, where he met with Ukrainian officials. ... The US Secretary of State's trip to Ukraine followed calls from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to establish the security zone around the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, which was damaged by shelling and remains under Russian control.A group of IAEA experts visited the plant last week.
                Anthony Blinken's visit to Ukraine was carried out in strict secrecy, it was not announced in advance. According to Bloomberg, the diplomat arrived in Kyiv by train and spent 11 hours on the road. ... "https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5549176
            2. +10
              11 September 2022 22: 05
              One of the military correspondents said that all sorts of secret behind-the-scenes negotiations were obvious. That the parties agree not to do this or that.
              And it looks like Russia is constantly being heated in this regard. To put it mildly, they do not strictly comply with the terms of the agreement on the part of Ukraine.
              And we are so honest and noble. These are not our methods, as Prilepin says.
      3. 0
        11 September 2022 22: 03
        What is the gas field in Kharkov? It is in Poltava. And why do we need it, we do not have time to burn our gas.
        1. +2
          11 September 2022 22: 18
          Deposit in Poltava, agreements on Kharkov.
      4. +3
        11 September 2022 22: 58
        Quote: freddyk
        There was infa...


        Ok so.
        And what are you going to change the Kherson region for?
        From the Russians, then they will shy away like the plague.
        1. +4
          11 September 2022 23: 04
          So. there is a misunderstanding what

          Quote: freddyk
          There was infa, unverified, that there were tacit agreements on Kharkov on a truce in exchange for infrastructure, specifically for a gas field. Therefore, ours did not twitch

          We are talking about rumors that something like a "water truce" was concluded with the Armed Forces of Ukraine: we do not touch your gas production, you do not touch the Kharkiv region.

          Now the Armed Forces of Ukraine have violated these agreements, so far Ukraine has a blackout. What will happen next - time will tell you, follow the events.

          That something like this.

          Quote: Simple
          And what are you going to change the Kherson region for?

          Nobody changed anything. And is not going to.
          1. +4
            11 September 2022 23: 08
            It's clear. Misunderstood the respondent.
            Bad mood all day long.
      5. 0
        12 September 2022 02: 57
        That is, the fact that we put a bunch of our military personnel storming Izyum and other cities, then that tens of thousands of people whom we threw and framed the punishers believed us, this is normal, the main thing is to cut down the dough. I don’t even know what’s worse to have a finished or stupid leadership.
        1. +1
          12 September 2022 09: 06
          Is this something new? And how they cut the first Chechen loot.
    45. -17
      11 September 2022 21: 40
      It’s good that they started shelling power plants, otherwise it was difficult to convince people that this would not help win the war in any way.

      Either they will be surprised when in a couple of months they realize that at the front the situation does not change from this. And for some reason there is no surrender.

      But at least civilians will sit without electricity for a while. And that bread
      1. +7
        11 September 2022 21: 57
        Quote from Heaven
        Either they will be surprised when in a couple of months they realize that at the front the situation does not change from this

        Well, yes, Shariy is already writing that trains are being cancelled. Electricity is not only contact networks, if anything.
      2. +3
        11 September 2022 21: 59
        Do you press the keys in three shifts at TsipSo or what? Dude, go to sleep. Otherwise, you'll go to hell. laughing
        1. -6
          11 September 2022 23: 50
          Have you tried to teach some other words in the durke besides tsipso?
          Whatever the post, the same record.
          Dude, go to sleep.
      3. +9
        11 September 2022 22: 02
        Quote from Heaven
        It’s good that they started shelling power plants, otherwise it was difficult to convince people that this would not help win the war in any way.

        Either they will be surprised when in a couple of months they realize that at the front the situation does not change from this. And for some reason there is no surrender.

        But at least civilians will sit without electricity for a while. And that bread

        Everything starts small. De-energized including railway. At the front, the situation will not change immediately. But if the entire population of Ukraine will feel what war is, this will bring victory closer. This is how NATO broke Yugoslavia. They never defeated the army.
        1. +2
          11 September 2022 23: 42
          Exactly! The Yugoslav army, according to experts, has lost less than 10% of its combat capability. And then, the main damage was inflicted on her by the militants of the UCHK in direct contact and during sabotage. NATO deliberately took out civilian infrastructure and hit columns of refugees, including Albanians, whom they supposedly came to protect. What can you not do for the sake of the picture and for the sake of multiplying fear and the demoralization that follows it.
      4. +8
        11 September 2022 22: 05
        This alone, like the selective bombing of draft substations, does not change the course. But, in a complex: electricity, communications, bridges, railway - it will even change very much.
      5. 0
        11 September 2022 22: 08
        At the present time it is difficult to draw a line between the military and civilians. Not so long ago, Switzerland refused to accept victims from Ukraine for treatment, because it would mean losing neutrality if it were to treat the military.
        And now, objectively, the entire infrastructure of Ukraine is of military importance.
        This is not about surrender, but about something completely new. This is both bad and good at the same time. It's good that they are trying to change something. It is bad that they are destroying the infrastructure, because, in theory, it should be spared, Ukraine and Russia are nearby. They did not want to touch the civilian population. Such goals were not declared - to de-energize the country.
        1. +8
          11 September 2022 22: 22
          Quote from Drotro
          They did not want to touch the civilian population.

          According to our reports from the territories, it is not so peaceful. They take the humanitarian aid with one hand, point the artillery with the other. They will just sit without light. It's humane.
          1. +4
            11 September 2022 23: 31
            Quote: freddyk
            Just sit without light

            Without light. Without water. Without sewerage in cities. No food delivery. Without transport. And without much, much more...

            Quote: freddyk
            It's humane

            It's a rake, really Yes
      6. +7
        11 September 2022 22: 11
        Well, yours are hammering at civilian objects, ours also decided to try, or is it yours naughty, I suppose the Americans put a comma with the coordinates there? ...
      7. +4
        11 September 2022 22: 33
        Quote from Heaven
        It’s good that they started shelling power plants, otherwise it was difficult to convince people that this would not help win the war in any way.


        in order to convince the Ukrainians, they first need to be disconnected from the very Bandera matrix to which they have been connected for the past 8 years.
        And the self-shelling of the thermal power plant is the very red pill that the people of Ukraine must take in order to start disconnecting from the matrix.
    46. -26
      11 September 2022 21: 41
      (CHP) Combined heat and power plant is a type of thermal power plant, which not only generates electricitybut is a source of thermal energy in district heating systems(in the form of steam and hot water, including to provide hot water supply and heating of residential and industrial facilities).
      - and this against the background of the fact that "winter is coming."
      what After all, this is a civilian (primarily) infrastructure, and a critical one at that. Damage to civilians, not to the military more.
      I don't think these are our methods. soldier Do not do it this way.
      1. +20
        11 September 2022 21: 48
        during the war, all infrastructure is of military importance, the thermal power plant was destroyed, which means more diesel fuel will be burned at emergency power sources, which means the army will receive less, more money for repairs and restoration, less money for weapons and ammunition ....
      2. +23
        11 September 2022 22: 04
        Dans une guerre contre l'otan peut être faut il adopter les méthodes de l'otan
        comme nous (je suis Français ) l'avons honteusement fait en Serbie : pont, centrales électriques, usines,...
        Une connaissance pro ukraine me disait qu'il vidait une école pour y stocker des armes, comme je lui faisait remarquer que "cela ne se faisait pas" il m'a répondu: "pour gagner tout se fait".
        Pas d'électricité cela ne veut pas dire "que" pas d'électricité , pas d'eau, pas de pompes à essence, pas de réseaux téléphonique, plus d'usines, de réparations, plus de locomotive electriques etc etc
        Des groupes electrogènes ne peuvent pas tout remplacer.

        Traduction yandex en esperant que cela ne changera pas la signification de mon texte :-)

        In a war against NATO, you may have to use NATO methods
        , as we (I am French) shamefully acted in Serbia: bridges, power plants, factories, ...
        A pro-Ukraine acquaintance told me that he was emptying the school to keep weapons there, when I pointed out to him that "this is not being done", he told me: "everything is done to win."
        No electricity does not mean "what" no electricity, no water, no petrol pumps, no telephone networks, no more factories, no more repairs, no more electric locomotives, etc., etc.
        Generators cannot replace everything.

        Yandex translation in the hope that this will not change the meaning of my text :-)
        .
      3. -1
        11 September 2022 22: 24
        Quote: Yves762
        (CHP) Combined heat and power plant is a type of thermal power plant, which not only generates electricitybut is a source of thermal energy in district heating systems(in the form of steam and hot water, including to provide hot water supply and heating of residential and industrial facilities).
        - and this against the background of the fact that "winter is coming."
        what After all, this is a civilian (primarily) infrastructure, and a critical one at that. Damage to civilians, not to the military more.
        I don't think these are our methods. soldier Do not do it this way.

        Destruction of critical infrastructure is already methods of total war
      4. +2
        11 September 2022 22: 37
        Quote: Yves762
        After all, this is a civilian (primarily) infrastructure, and a critical one at that.


        taking into account the fact that the main resource of Kyiv is its citizens, from which it makes cannon fodder, then once this resource will need to be knocked out from under it.
        For no one will live in hunger and without light, which means that citizens will begin to scatter to neighboring countries.
      5. -1
        12 September 2022 00: 02
        (To the citizens who answered my comment above)
        You know, it’s still possible to come down in such a way that there will be no difference - if this is for general humanitarian reasons.
        In particular:
        1. "Do not be shy" should have been the day before yesterday, otherwise it was painfully similar to the hysteria of a failed one.
        2. There are higher priority goals. And in general, and in the moment.
        3. It is highly doubtful that the own internal Ukrainian infrastructure has such a significant impact on the combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (except for logistics) that it is worth bombing the thermal power plant. (The suffering of civilians is generally up to the lantern.)
        1. +4
          12 September 2022 05: 29
          Quote: Yves762
          It is highly doubtful that the own internal Ukrainian infrastructure has such a significant impact on the combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (except for logistics) that it is worth bombing the thermal power plant. (The suffering of civilians is generally up to the lantern.)

          Well, you give, my friend, except for logistics. Without it, wars are lost. By the way, our escape from near Kyiv is a fresh example.
          1. -4
            12 September 2022 06: 42
            Chuguev's bridges have a greater impact on logistics, for example.
      6. +4
        12 September 2022 00: 24
        You know. In the spring, I reasoned about the same and was very worried about the civilians - God forbid they fly in. But now it's autumn. During this time, a lot has happened. We saw the mood in Ukraine. Civilians there are not hostages of the army. They fully support it. It's time to break the resistance with serious methods.
        "It is highly doubtful that the own internal Ukrainian infrastructure has such a significant impact on the combat effectiveness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" - exactly that, since the railway in Ukraine is mainly electric, this is a very serious loss precisely in terms of military capabilities. Well, this is energy that you can’t make up for with mobile stations.
        "There are higher priority targets." - well, except perhaps "a strike on decision-making centers", such as Zelensky's bunker and military headquarters.
        ""Do not be shy" should have been the day before yesterday, otherwise it was painfully similar to the hysteria of a failed one. - absolutely agree. But if it had been earlier, it would not have become more humane. And you have a claim to humanity.
        1. -2
          12 September 2022 06: 37
          Already was. With railway substations in the summer. And this is a separate interesting topic about when and why they started, how much they tried and what are the results.

          Claims for results and efficiency.
          1. -2
            12 September 2022 12: 27
            If only these strikes were continuous. And so pulnuli once and silence.
    47. +7
      11 September 2022 21: 41
      Now the right-bank river also needs to be de-electrified.
    48. +14
      11 September 2022 21: 41
      If we draw parallels with the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, it is clearly the Ukrainian troops that are shelling themselves in order to blame Russia later.
      What other attacks? The cause of the incident is smoking in an unspecified place.
    49. +6
      11 September 2022 21: 42
      Bullshit! The air conditioners were not fresh. Well, or they fired at themselves for sure!
    50. +3
      11 September 2022 21: 43
      The most interesting thing is that the Kukuevskys don’t care who, where and how they will suffer ... another reason and another reason!
      But when our leaders don’t give a damn about those pretexts, false accusations and accusations, then real things can begin Russia, finally, it will come to war for real !!!
      The question is .... does anyone believe in such a development of events ???
      1. +1
        11 September 2022 22: 19
        Quote: rocket757
        Russia, finally, will come to war for real !!!
        The question is .... does anyone believe in such a development of events ???

        As they say - fresh tradition, but hard to believe.
        1. +2
          11 September 2022 23: 39
          As sad as it is... it could be even sadder.
      2. +1
        11 September 2022 22: 41
        Quote: rocket757
        The most interesting thing is that Kukuevsky doesn’t care


        no, I don’t care, because they can’t do without cannon fodder, but without electricity and heat, potential cannon fodder will begin to scatter from Ukraine to other countries.
        1. +1
          11 September 2022 23: 38
          Come on, at the borders the cordons are denser and the "runners" under the gun.
          There are other factors/reasons that guarantee a sufficient amount of "cannon fodder" for the Kukuevskys.
    51. +2
      11 September 2022 21: 44
      I doubt that this movement will last long. Right now we will start negotiations with the promise of Crimea, ours will lead as always and stop putting pressure
    52. -7
      11 September 2022 21: 46
      Quote: Leshak
      Have you started taking off your gloves? Let's see how it goes. The Kharkov slap in the face should bring the Russian generals to their senses.

      Nice slap in the face. This is not just a slap in the face. Knockdown.
      Blitzkrieg natural. This is true.

      Maybe they'll change something. But what can you believe in now?
      1. +3
        11 September 2022 22: 01
        Quote from Drotro
        Blitzkrieg natural. This is true.


        yes, a blikrieg was planned with the encirclement and destruction in cauldrons of our military group near Kherson, Izyum, Balakleya with the capture of Kherson and access to the Russian border with the clearing of Donbass and subsequently an offensive from three sides to Mariupol.
        As a result, all Russian groups were preserved, but near Kherson the Ukrainians had a complete failure.
        Therefore, the blikrieg resulted in that same slap in the face of Russia in the Izyum-Kharkov direction.
        Judging by the self-explosions of the thermal power plant, Russia finally stops playing with Ukraine and, instead of slapping it on the ass, begins to flog it harshly with a belt.
        1. +9
          11 September 2022 22: 08
          As a result, all Russian groups were saved

          Only the face and lives of the soldiers were lost. And we would have started right away like this, and there would have been fewer losses and doubts that Russia could do the same.
          1. +5
            11 September 2022 22: 27
            We wanted the best. I remember a report from those places. With a guy who is the commander of a tank company. Then information spread that he had died.
        2. -1
          11 September 2022 22: 22
          It is clear that they chose the best option from the worst.
          But now it’s hard to believe in something positive. Talk is not needed, some action is needed. Let these strikes be against something that really affects the country’s combat capability.

          In a good way, I want peace on acceptable terms as quickly as possible. But this is a utopia. Without further battles, it is unlikely that anything will be resolved quickly.
      2. -1
        11 September 2022 22: 56
        Will the commander-in-chief, instead of opening attractions in Moscow, start a war?
        1. 0
          13 September 2022 05: 17
          He has no time for that. We need to leave a mark on history, at least with a Ferris wheel.
    53. +12
      11 September 2022 21: 46
      The railway has stopped, and this is good news, it will be problematic to treat the wounded Ukrainians, feed and warm this horde, and in general there will be problems with the logistics of the army of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. If we go deeper into the rear, then the gas pipeline will stop and Europe will tense up and the Ukrainians will not have to pay for gas transit. advantages of blackout in Square
    54. +8
      11 September 2022 21: 47
      Well, the Khokhlyat tsipso lives in Poland and the Baltic states.
      so the intensity of the grunt will not decrease, unfortunately.
    55. +12
      11 September 2022 21: 48
      10 hours without electricity in the city - tin, no sewerage, no water.
      And if there is no electricity for a couple of days, then everything... crap.
      When the Chaginskaya substation burned down and the power went out for 10 hours, the water in the stores ran out within an hour in our area. To flush the toilet, we ran to the pond and scooped up half of it. Then I thought...what will happen if they turn it off for two days?
      1. +8
        11 September 2022 22: 24
        And behind the toilet there may be a regional pumping station, which without electricity pumps nothing, and all the good stuff begins to flow back through the first floors and wells
    56. -17
      11 September 2022 21: 50
      So this is what impotent anger is
    57. +12
      11 September 2022 21: 51
      That self-fire at thermal power plants has begun in Ukraine? Thus, self-attacks on thermal power plants may be followed by self-attacks on the Ukrainian gas transmission system and self-explosions of gas storage facilities.
      This is understandable, because the wider Banderaites have no need for infrastructure, they will dig a cache for themselves and it will be warm and cozy there.
      1. +2
        11 September 2022 22: 23
        Quote: lopvlad
        This is understandable, because the wider Banderaites have no need for infrastructure, they will dig a cache for themselves and it will be warm and cozy there.

        They can do this easily. After all, they are ancient diggers, they can dig up a whole sea.
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      1. +7
        11 September 2022 21: 54
        You also need to destroy the bridges, then everything will be fine
      2. +10
        11 September 2022 22: 11
        doesn't seem like an accident

        Absolutely. The destruction of the Ukrainian energy system and the stoppage of railway transportation when the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike force “in the open field” evokes certain thoughts.
        1. -2
          11 September 2022 22: 53
          Question. How many such groups are currently training in the EU? 1? 2? 5? Our Ministry of Defense is jumping joyfully reporting the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces at 2000 people. For an army with a mob potential of at least 1 million, without the participation of volunteers from NATO countries, this is a terrible loss.
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      1. 0
        11 September 2022 23: 43
        When we reach them, then they will be
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    61. +1
      11 September 2022 21: 54
      Quote: Inokkenty
      And why do we need to use nuclear weapons? This is the same as if we would use it on our territory...
      But ukrotrol and logic are not intersecting things ....

      SJAS po USA primenit toze ukrotrolle predlagajut po wasemu? Banderostan instrument USA wojennyj budzet USA 11 raz bolsyj cem RF wojewat z USA NATO Japonej i procimi obycnym oruzjem bezperspektywno walowyj Produktr RF namnogo mense RF scitajet dostizenjem proizwodstwo 61 nm procesorow taiwan proizwodit 5 nm ediny j sans pobedy eto prewentiwnyj jadernyj udar po USA , NATO Japoni i Izraelu( jadernyj sojuznik USA)! udar po Lwowu prinudit banderostan k kapitulacji Rosja welika lwow i okresnosti nictozna potera a skolko soldackih ziznej JO spaset primjenit JO predlagajut krowozadnyje nacjonalisty dla nih istreblenje=najludsyj metod denacyfikacji alcnost trophejow et o ne logika my wedem 3MWa ne prowodim kozackij rejd za zipunami
    62. ban
      -1
      11 September 2022 21: 54
      Long overdue!
    63. -3
      11 September 2022 21: 55
      They say Belgorod is without electricity. Does anyone know anything about this? Perhaps this is revenge? Or just misinformation?
      1. +8
        11 September 2022 22: 18
        No, everything is fine now. I'm from there. Today, a couple of southern city districts lost power at about 8 pm, but now, at this moment, everything is turned on, there is electricity and water. They say that the equipment at the Southern substation is very old...
        1. +3
          11 September 2022 22: 26
          Thanks for the answer
    64. +1
      11 September 2022 21: 56
      Oxen and splinters are the future of Ukraine! laughing
    65. +17
      11 September 2022 21: 58
      I see, after the Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant, the Banderlogians got a taste for it and began to fire at power plants throughout the outskirts. And with special cynicism, in order to blame Russia for this
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    67. +16
      11 September 2022 21: 59
      Will you ask the Donetsk people? How do they constantly manage without water and light?
      They hit the Donetsk water intake and substations every other day..
    68. GNM
      -1
      11 September 2022 22: 02
      The situation is better than you can imagine: today, the sixth power unit of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, which fell out of the energy system of Ukraine, is turned off, and now strikes are being made on two main thermal power plants of Left-Bank Ukraine at once, which immediately knocks Kharkiv and Poltava regions out of the network. The redistribution of the load did not help and the networks of the Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye and Odessa regions fell down.

      Now the meaning of the phrase is clear: - “And we haven’t even started yet.”

      1. +9
        11 September 2022 22: 11
        We didn’t start for a long, long time, you can’t bring back the guys from Kyiv and Chernigov, from near Popasnaya :-(
      2. -3
        11 September 2022 22: 49
        By the time he gathers, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will already capture Donetsk. And he realized that it was necessary to prevent the supply of weapons and destroy the infrastructure.
    69. +5
      11 September 2022 22: 04
      So gas won’t go to Europe, the pumps don’t work without current.
      1. +1
        11 September 2022 22: 13
        The turbines there seem to run on gas. This nuclear power plant cannot operate without an auxiliary power plant.
        1. Egg
          +3
          12 September 2022 07: 07
          Quote from Virtual_II
          The turbines there seem to run on gas.

          and you remove the battery and generator from the car and try to start it and drive it, the engine runs on gasoline laughing
      2. +5
        11 September 2022 22: 28
        As far as I understand, the pump engines run on the same gas that they pump. Another thing is managing them.
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      1. 0
        11 September 2022 22: 25
        Three thermal power plants. Or even four.
      2. +3
        11 September 2022 22: 35
        You know, today I looked at a map from Westerners, and it seemed strange that at the site of the breakthrough there were no troops at all, only a chain of fortified areas. Maybe not everything was as simple as it seems? Although, of course, the breakthrough is too big to be planned.
        But if now, within a few days, until the power grid for the railway is turned on, the bridges are broken behind the broken-through group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which was left without supplies, then there will be an illusory chance to completely utilize it. You just need to act quickly and decisively. and for this the rest of the power plants are not important
        1. +1
          11 September 2022 22: 46
          Ukrainian Armed Forces troops are already in the field. And they don't care about these substations. The army is quite autonomous. Explain how turning off the lights in the Dnieper will stop the DRG of the Ukrainian Armed Forces under the fragment? Or will it affect the work of artillery near Liman? The effect will appear only after two months. If it happens at all.
          1. +5
            11 September 2022 22: 53
            The army is quite autonomous.
            Are they growing ammunition and fuel? Without railway supplies of ambas.
            1. -1
              12 September 2022 12: 35
              For groups of 50-100 thousand, it is also possible by truck. There are not millions of armies there. And our Ministry of Defense did not bother to destroy the bridges in 7 months. But I came up with 1001 reasons why this is impossible. And they didn’t completely destroy the railway network. The few hundred diesel locomotives they have are quite enough for the army. And I think the EU will find several hundred units of diesel locomotives. And they will be able to change them to a new track. If they haven’t already done this, we’ve already drawn all the red lines and looked for “decision-making centers.”
          2. 0
            12 September 2022 00: 11
            Surely there will be. The structure of arms supplies will obviously change and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive something that was not provided before.
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    73. NSV
      +1
      11 September 2022 22: 07
      Really!!!!!!!! Less than six months have passed!!!!!! I would like to believe, "that we have already started!"
    74. -8
      11 September 2022 22: 07
      There is nothing good about this....
      This is a meaningless action that will cause retaliation....
      Against the backdrop of the withdrawal of troops, it will look like impotent revenge...

      And again on the left bank....
      1. +6
        11 September 2022 22: 13
        Quote: Negruz
        There is nothing good about this....
        This is a meaningless action that will cause retaliation....
        Against the backdrop of the withdrawal of troops, it will look like impotent revenge...

        And again on the left bank....

        Explain why nuclear power is possible in Donetsk and Kherson, but not in response. There are still so many options to respond to Krajina that their answer will lead to even bigger problems for them. Hope
        Not me, but I agree with the person:

        Moreover, the Ukrainians decided not only to take Crimea and Donbass from us, to receive reparations and indemnities, but also to turn Russia into Weimar Germany. Since Ukrainian officials are saying this, it’s time to turn Ukraine into a country in the mid-19th century.
        1. -7
          11 September 2022 22: 19
          I'm not saying it's "impossible", I'm saying it's "pointless"...
          1. +2
            11 September 2022 22: 28
            Quote: Negruz
            I'm not saying it's "impossible", I'm saying it's "pointless"...

            It is very meaningful, we must understand that we are not fighting with the Ukrainian Armed Forces alone, but with Ukraine, which we can no longer annex. We need to drive them into the Stone Age.
            1. +5
              11 September 2022 22: 32
              It is very meaningful, we must understand that we are not fighting with the Ukrainian Armed Forces alone, but with Ukraine, which we can no longer annex. We need to drive them into the Stone Age.

              Do you think that after these attacks Washington will capitulate?
              1. +2
                11 September 2022 23: 40
                Stop pointing at Washington. All the Kyiv puppets have long been untied, even if the Americans have not yet understood
                If the dill ripens, no Washington will force them to fight.
    75. +1
      11 September 2022 22: 08
      A good attempt to bring the “curators” of the anti-Russia project to their senses. If they don’t stop creating nightmares at Zaporizhzhya NPP, they may be left without energy altogether on the eve of winter. Enough admonitions - it's time to punish for shelling particularly dangerous objects. I can imagine how much “stench, sorry, righteous indignation” there will be in the “democratic press” tomorrow.
      1. +4
        12 September 2022 01: 35
        It's time to punish shelling of particularly dangerous objects.

        I hope this is not a punishment...But just the beginning of a real war. The way she should be.
        Energy, transport, fuel, industry, food supplies. Without this you won't be able to fight for long. for one with a machine gun at the front, 20 work in the rear.
        But leave the snot, the civilian losses will be no more, and even less, than stretching out the incomprehensible SVO. In the end, caring for civilians is the responsibility of those who defend the city.
        There are very few targets prohibited by the convention (as well as prohibited types of weapons in densely populated areas). And there is a way out - a white flag, if you want to be humane, or evacuation, or just a drape.
    76. +3
      11 September 2022 22: 08
      The measures are correct, but anti-sabotage measures at Russian critical infrastructure facilities need to be strengthened, especially in border areas (and not just for show).
      1. +4
        11 September 2022 22: 19
        Not only Russian. They have nothing special to hit there with. Only sabotage. But Donetsk, Lugansk, etc. may be under threat.
        1. +2
          11 September 2022 22: 30
          Quote: SerAp
          Not only Russian. They have nothing special to hit there with. Only sabotage. But Donetsk, Lugansk, etc. may be under threat.

          They are hitting there in vain anyway. And in light of recent events, the Belgorod region is under threat.
    77. +1
      11 September 2022 22: 09
      Quote: Plate
      So, where is my position? I already have preparations for the NBO operation in Azerbaijan, Belarus and Finland!

      They forgot about you, apparently.
      It turned out to be inconvenient. We need to show this to the staff officers.
    78. +5
      11 September 2022 22: 09
      Lovely just lovely Yes
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      1. +4
        11 September 2022 22: 14
        What does Ukraine have to do with it? If the United States gives these missiles and they fly across Russian territory. Russia has every right to launch a missile strike against NATO countries. Russia can burn all Western bases up to France in three minutes, and then there will be negotiations.
        1. +2
          12 September 2022 02: 46
          Russia has every right to launch a missile strike against NATO countries. Russia can...

          So what? It has already flown across Russian territory, more than once. “The whole world is in ruins” does not suit anyone. And “we are going to heaven, but they will die” too.
        2. -1
          12 September 2022 12: 38
          And in an hour or two there will be a glow from Belgorod to Kamchatka. Or do you think that NATO nuclear weapons are based exclusively on EU territory?
      2. 0
        11 September 2022 23: 05
        They will, of course. And they will hit Russia. Not in this case. And the fact is that there will be no drain. We. Or they. There is no third
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      1. +4
        11 September 2022 22: 32
        Quote from lets-true
        now the dill will howl give us the MGM-140E ATACMS Block 1A. And the curators will deliver.

        The range of supplies does not depend at all on our attacks. It depends on what the Americans want from the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    81. +4
      11 September 2022 22: 20
      Quote from lets-true
      now the dill will howl give us the MGM-140E ATACMS Block 1A. And the Americans will deliver.

      They would have already supplied ammunition 300 km any day now (if they haven’t already done so), and then there will be planes, and the Raguli still have a lot of mobilized meat. So, hammer away at the electricity generation as much as possible and rely on your own air defense.
      1. +3
        11 September 2022 22: 57
        Quote: Adagka
        They would have supplied ammunition 300 km any day anyway


        They don’t use them not because they feel sorry for Russia, but because they don’t want to become a party to the conflict, which in turn will loosen Russia’s hands. And they didn’t deliver the planes because it’s time that there are no Ukrainians trained for them at the controls and they’ll have to land their Western pilots, and that’s already the risk of a direct clash with Russia.
    82. +3
      11 September 2022 22: 24
      Until the Ukrainians come to their senses, we need to hit other thermal power plants!!!!!!! There are not so many of them throughout Ukraine! It's time to drive ukroin into the stone age!!!!! Look for the oil industry and gas!
    83. +1
      11 September 2022 22: 28
      Oh really? Has the war begun? Woke up
    84. +6
      11 September 2022 22: 29
      The most important thing is for WHAT TIME will they be disabled?
      Agree, each of us can easily survive a night/day/several days without light.
      Without heat, this is critical in winter, but now, in September, especially in Ukraine, it is absolutely not critical.
      Therefore, it is not enough that thermal power plants will be out of order for a day/several days.
      They must be put out of action for a long time, only then will they be born in the minds of ordinary people
      thoughts on how to stop the war...
      1. 0
        12 September 2022 13: 13
        To understand what pain is, one needle prick is enough [for a normal body]
        1. 0
          12 September 2022 13: 59
          Do you want to win a war with one needle prick? :-)
          No, for large-scale demoralization of the population there should not be light
          for months. Overnight shutdowns happen in any Russian city and without any
          military operations.
    85. +3
      11 September 2022 22: 29
      Quote from: neworange88
      Half the country without electricity and water, and in winter they will also be without gas.

      Modern boilers without light, even if gas is available, will not allow the use of this gas. True, the blow must be repeated regularly. There are probably at least 3-4 spare transformers. In addition, it would be useful to contact Western power plants and substations of the Dnieper hydroelectric power stations from Belarus.
    86. +6
      11 September 2022 22: 30
      They hit it hard, but it’s not entirely effective; a lot will be restored. Now you can connect to distribution networks of 110, 330 kV, etc. and hello "stone age"
      Although they also have green energy
    87. -13
      11 September 2022 22: 31
      "Great news
      The “ultra-modern” “experienced” command of the Northern Military District, which created “new tactics”, which created “new mobile formations” and ... could not cope with the “hopeless” and “hastily organized” offensive of “long-destroyed” “gangs of Nazis”, “ incapable of attacking,” and now it LOGICALLY hit the population of the “denazified” territory, which is waiting or not for the North Military District to “liberate” and “demilitarize” them and ... this one, as it is called, “non-dacifiifies.” Precisely in terms of population - after all, the energy system is, first of all, the basis for SURVIVAL of the population in cities. Not just provision, not just security - but SURVIVAL.
      Where to start applauding? After all, it’s clear that the population will rush to their “regime” and beg it to surrender, and probably even force it to apologize to the poor leaders of the Northern Military District, right? And she will come in columns to thank the leadership of the Northern Military District for the fact that now they have no light.
      Pancake
      I wonder, if I, that is, “the population of Russia,” also don’t like the leadership of the Northern Military District, then the thermal power plant in my city will also be hit by a “high-precision weapon”? Well, so that I don’t blather too much?
      And most importantly: SHOULD WE expect a blow to Russian energy networks? After all, in Russia the missile defense and air defense system DOES NOT COVER energy facilities. If anyone didn't know. The “gas cross” alone is worth it....
    88. +2
      11 September 2022 22: 32
      God bless! Are we really starting to work like adults! This should have been done back in February! It is necessary to eliminate all bridges and railway communications, highways and other things in order to plunge the entire Khokhloin into the Stone Age! We are waiting for new news!
      We are Russians! God with us!
      1. +2
        12 September 2022 00: 08
        Quote: cheburator
        We are Russians! God with us!

        The Stone Age is also with us in our souls.
        Total blackout, yes, is necessary.
        But there’s no need to jump for joy.
        The first to suffer from this are not soldiers or officials, but maternity hospitals, intensive care units, and operating rooms. And not in large cities, but in regional centers.
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    90. +3
      11 September 2022 22: 34
      Quote: yakisam
      "Great news
      The “ultra-modern” “experienced” command of the Northern Military District was unable to cope with the advance of “long-destroyed” “gangs” that were “incapable of attacking” and logically hit the population, which could not wait for the Northern Military District to “liberate” them.
      It’s clear that the population will rush to their “regime” and beg it to surrender
      Pancake
      I wonder, if I, that is, “the population of Russia,” also don’t like the leadership of the Northern Military District, then the thermal power plant in my city will also be hit by a “high-precision weapon”? Well, so that I don’t blather too much?

      Change the training manual, with this post all the ciphers have long been burned in all similar publics.
      1. +1
        11 September 2022 23: 45
        As I understand it, the consequences of the missile attack have been partially neutralized - the reserve capacities of the hydroelectric power station have been used, judging by the quoted post?
    91. 0
      11 September 2022 22: 36
      Once they showed an attack on a bridge in Dnepropetrovsk, but it remained the only one. Will there be a sequel? Let's say Lvov, Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil or is this an accident? If so, there will be a faint hope that something has moved forward.
    92. 0
      11 September 2022 22: 39
      A ruin in the dark and in complete darkness.
    93. -8
      11 September 2022 22: 40
      For six months, chewing snot and justifying your impotence by not wanting to cause inconvenience to Western partners and the population of Ukraine. And now, having received a slap in the face, the energy sector is leaving those same residents without energy in the fall. Get hurt. A clear and consistent cunning plan. And when the Russian Armed Forces “regroup” will we start throwing nuclear bombs near Saratov? Or will we organize goodwill gestures with regular shows in the far and east?
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    95. +3
      11 September 2022 22: 45
      According to Ukrainian official statistics, of the 11 Russian missiles fired, 9 were shot down by air defense systems. Taking into account what is already reliably known about the FOUR affected Ukrainian thermal power plants, it should be assumed that at least TWO APUs were destroyed themselves...
    96. +1
      11 September 2022 22: 53
      Even old man Krupsky taught that “the following must certainly be occupied and at the cost of any losses: a) telephone, b) telegraph, c) railway stations, d) bridges first and foremost” (work “Advice from an Outsider”, October 1917)

      Why the Russian Ministry of Defense came to this conclusion only after 200 days of SVO is completely unclear
    97. -1
      11 September 2022 22: 55
      Quote: Inokkenty
      Quote from Drotro
      Right now I'm reading VO and I see Ukrainian YouTube, how they use the same phrases "crossbows", "smoked in the wrong place", etc.
      Damn, how people have slipped to mutual insults. And at the same time, both sides use similar terminology, only there is less bloodthirstiness and hatred on the Russian side (as pro-Ukrainians say, Ukrainians can do it, they were attacked).
      Still, no matter what anyone said, the West blew us off. Well, there was no such hatred in the USSR. What now.

      As soon as you arrive in Ukraine well, the website immediately says “everything is gone”, “Putin is to blame for everything” is replaced by the Ukrotrol whining of “brothers”....


      No, I’m from the Moscow region.
      I just hate these formulations so much when pro-Ukrainians use them that everything just turns upside down inside. They also like to wish health to the dead. Blasphemy, joy in death, some kind of transcendental brutality. For them, such bloodthirsty rhetoric is normal. But we shouldn’t stoop to gloating.

      The fact that we are no longer brothers is clear to a fool. And it is unknown when something will change.
    98. -1
      11 September 2022 22: 56
      Regarding the nuclear power plant tomorrow, an ultimatum, you will not be taken out of
      We'll kill the DPR troops!!!
    99. +8
      11 September 2022 22: 56
      One blow to the thermal power plant - and it feels like Hiroshima was blown up. The question is: why couldn’t this have been done 7 months earlier? After all, if all these substations had been destroyed, the Sumerians would now be sitting in rat holes and not showing their noses. Hey, politicians! How long can you play tag?
    100. +6
      11 September 2022 22: 58
      Everything is clear, except for one thing: why was the “end of the world” not organized even when it became clear that the blitzkrieg had failed?

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