"An operation was carried out to regroup troops": a summary of the Ministry of Defense on the progress of the NWO

The Russian military department has published a new report on the course of the special operation of the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine.

Fighting aviation destroyed by high-precision weapons in the Kharkiv region, in the vicinity of Balakliya and Chuguev, the headquarters of the 5th brigade of the National Guard, temporary accommodation for personnel of the 92nd mechanized brigade and units of neo-Nazis from the Kraken formation, in the Ray-Aleksandrovka region of the DPR - the command post of the 54th mechanized brigade. As a result, up to 300 servicemen were eliminated, the enemy lost 15 pieces of equipment.

It is reported about the work of aviation and ground-based missile launchers against the enemy, located in a number of points in the DPR and the Nikolaev region. 48 artillery units and 178 enemy deployment areas were under attack, 6 artillery storage sites were destroyed, and an air defense radar was hit.

Thanks to counter-battery fire, it was possible to strike back at 2 MLRS platoons and 5 cannon artillery platoons, in particular, an American M777 howitzer was destroyed. Air defense systems destroyed 13 UAVs and 5 HIMARS MLRS shells.

At the moment, enemy losses amounted to 293 aircraft, 152 rotorcraft, 1929 drone, 374 ZRK, 4879 tanks and other armored vehicles, 830 MLRS, 3375 guns and mortars, 5432 vehicles.

The redistribution of forces is announced as part of the NWO:

A decision was made to regroup the Russian troops stationed in the Balakleya and Izyum regions to build up efforts in the Donetsk direction

- noted in the report of the Ministry of Defense.

As indicated, over the past three days, an operation was carried out to "organize the transfer of the Izyum-Balakley group of troops to the territory of the DPR." At the same time, the true intentions of the command were masked in order to disorient the enemy:

During this operation, a number of distraction and demonstration activities were carried out with the designation of the real actions of the troops.

During the transfer of Russian forces, the enemy was under powerful fire from aviation, artillery and missile forces. As a result, the Kyiv regime lost more than 2 killed militants and mercenaries and more than 100 pieces of armored vehicles and artillery.

Comments

[Arzamas]

Unfortunately, this war cannot be won without mobilization.

[faiver]

you are mistaken, not mobilization is needed, but brains ....

[Ludoman]

Quote: faiver

you are mistaken, not mobilization is needed, but brains ....

It is not he who is mistaken, but you do not want to accept objective reality, you do not want to believe that you will have to personally sit in the trenches, and are ready to grasp at any straw, to believe in any nonsense in which you do not have to personally fight. So, know that it is IMPOSSIBLE to win this war only with brains, we need infantry so as not to fight in a minority of 3 to 1.

[bandabas]

Initially, it was necessary to press hard and effectively in February, and not play peacekeepers.

[Oleg]

It was necessary to press in 2014.

[faiver]

It was necessary to press in 2014.

- I agree....

[bandabas]

It is truth too.

[Garik Gorkin]

In 2014, Russia was not ready for serious sanctions, so they did not intervene.

[Veter5757]

Enough already one and the same excuse for 8 years to procrastinate. It is better to regret what has been done than to excuse what has not been done.

[faiver]

and now you are ready?

[Alexander Salenko]

Yes, it is quite. It turned out that we are ready, what's wrong?

[zombirusrev]

Western partners prepared Ukrainians, and pro-Russian forces controlled them to 0.

[ramzay21]

In 2014, Russia was not ready for serious sanctions, so they did not intervene

Russia is always ready, only the coward who governs our state is not ready. Gorbachev was not ready, and now Putin is not ready. Remind you how the goodwill gestures of Gorbachev ended?

[Bioorganism]

Don't touch GDP. He did more for the Russian Federation than anyone else in recent history.

[ramzay21]

He led the country in such a way that we suffered the biggest defeat since 1942 from a country with a much smaller population and ten times smaller economy, and which 8 years ago could not withdraw tanks from the pits without loss. He is a coward and a fool, and under his leadership nothing good awaits our country.

[Andy]

Quote from Bioorganism

Don't touch GDP. He did more for the Russian Federation than anyone else in recent history.

Oh yeah! Peter1 started with amusing regiments, bringing them to the army, and his newly-minted imitator, on the contrary, rolled down to amusing regiments in biathlons. and no one to fight

[Alexander Salenko]

And let me remind you about Putin's goodwill gestures. I'm not a fan of him, I just consider him a statesman. He started with Chechnya. You seem to have a memory like a guppy fish. When he took the Crimea, everyone fapali and what's next? And then there was Syria, where he destroyed the plans of the United States, which had been lining up since 1991.

[ramzay21]

And let me remind you about Putin's goodwill gestures. He began by closing our bases in Cuba and Vietnam at the request of the Americans in the early 2000s. Then, at the request of all the same Americans, he sawed our most combat-ready SSBNs, which the Americans considered a threat, with their money.
Then he protected the oligarchs and their property, placed his stupid and greedy friends in high positions, which led to the degradation of industry and drove our country into dependence on imported goods and equipment. Thanks to him, our country, according to Matvienko, does not even produce nails.
During his reign in Russia, the number of airports, schools and hospitals has decreased several times.

With parades and biathlons, as well as the arrangement of stupid but helpful generals, he completely failed the rearmament program, throwing huge money into the wind, and the army, in its training, equipment and management, slipped to the level of developing countries

[Alexander Salenko]

Oh, you are talkative, due to a long absence, you didn’t answer everything, since you’re so smart, what bases in Cuba to keep on what chishi?

[ramzay21]

I understand that you have nothing to say about the case.
If there is no money, then why do we need a base in Syria, and also a war there?

[Alexander Salenko]

Now there is money, but then there was none, the Russian Federation is not the USSR, is it not clear or what? And the war in Syria is a special conversation that makes no sense outside the context of the entire foreign policy.

[Repellent]

Quote: ramzay21

put his stupid and greedy friends in high positions, which led to the degradation of industry and drove our country into dependence on imported goods and equipment

You, this is ... lie, but know the measure (s). By the time Putin came, Russian industry had already collapsed, ten years was enough for that. I saw it myself (s).

our country, according to Matvienko, does not even produce nails

Matvienko is a fool, the country produces both nails and even bearings. Referring to a fool is bad manners, Vasya.

Quote: ramzay21

and the army, in its training, equipment and management, has sunk to the level of developing countries

Vasya, you are wrong (c)

[Postcode]

Personally, for you, your family, friends, and acquaintances, what are the dividends from the collapsed plans of the United States?))

[Alexander Salenko]

Huge, if the plans of the United States did not begin to collapse, I personally would feel bad, and you too, if you are not a cissist. Yes, even if it is a consumable.

[Postcode]

That's why I focus on the "collapsed" plans of the United States, because, as for me personally and my loved ones, this is neither cold nor hot. I am more concerned about the plans of our leadership and really want something planned (at least planned) to be fulfilled.

[Alexander Salenko]

Well, they planned in Syria, they did it, but you decide whether you are interested in the plans, or not warm or cold.

[Postcode]

I don’t see what they did, the US didn’t leave there, we didn’t return home, the escalation in the oil-producing regions of Syria continues.

[Alexander Salenko]

Well, I understand that it’s hard to hear without glasses, but in fact there is an MTO base and an airfield, and the Assad regime is safe and sound.

[Postcode]

Well, yes, the MTO base, to provide for ourselves and the protection of the airfield, the stew was brought in 5 years in advance and stored there))) .... we see the goals and objectives of that operation in different ways, therefore we evaluate its results. The presence of Assad is only one of not many tasks, and there are a lot of them, and far from all of them have been completed in full, there is still work and work to be done.

[Alexander Salenko]

Definitely, because you don’t see it in a historical perspective, because the same thing, plus or minus, has been achieved since Catherine’s time. Looks like you are not aware of the problem of the isolation of the fleets.

[Postcode]

What fleets are isolated, what bases and Assads ...? The main thing that is there and because of what we are there is the oil-producing regions and the regions of oil transportation, connecting the East, Asia and Europe!!! Everything else, as a kind of attached and follows from this. And here you are trying to tell me about "historical perspectives"! To achieve these goals, the PMC Wagner was created, once, starting with the interests of Lukoil Oversize in Iraq, then the transport oil pipeline, which everyone wanted to gain control over, starting with Turkey and Turkey, ending with the United States, moreover, on northern Syria. unauthorized and uncontrolled oil production, with further sale in the same way, through Turkey in Europe ... and much more interesting)))))

[Alexander Salenko]

Those. did the tsarist government solve the problem because of oil? Sir, I consider such communication stupid, because oil is secondary there, but the collapsed US plans for BV are primary. Would you like glasses as a gift with a microscope?

[Postcode]

Buy yourself binoculars and a rooster at Odessa Privoz, binoculars to see the world better, and a rooster, what would his brain do))

[Sergey Nikiforov]

You might think you're ready now

[Turtle]

And after all, even then (in March) Kedmi was yelling that they weren’t waging a war in white gloves, while the advantage was why didn’t they squeeze it out? Bridges, crossings, railways, military and civilian airfields, communication towers, TV towers, nothing of what was needed. Now there will be no surprise factor anymore, and business hucksters continue to trade with Europe-America, if only they could be hung up with the banderie after the tribunal ...

[Left shot]

Kedmi can squeal anything, Jews do not fight to the death with each other. And only pit others. Ukraine is the former western part of Russia, where 60% speak and think in Russian, there people are not only part of us, but also with the Soviet mentality. For Kedmi and the Zion plans for CLEARING and preparing the 4th Israel in Ukraine, the very thing is that we will start burning everything there and hating each other FOREVER.

[Turtle]

Forever, not forever, I won’t say, but for a long time - a hundred pounds. How many chubopiteks were there over two hundred? But many have left widows and children who also speak and think in Russian, do you have any ideas on this? I have no.

[Alexander Salenko]

And what are the ideas? I climbed myself. These Russian-speaking people are not our friends, I have two fellow students who live in Kyiv, by the way, both were not drafted, do you think they are friends? What the hell do you need to pay attention to? It is necessary to pay attention to their children, in what schools they will be brought up.
My childhood friend has a younger brother with a big difference in age. He was sent to the Ukrainian gymnasium, where there was complete order with the provision of materiel. My friend is Russian, and this dill is typical.

[Turtle]

I agree, but I'm a little off about that. I mean that even after the completion of the SVO, there will be a more than fertile environment for educating new Bandera people, as always, everything will begin (if you want to resume) with quiet conversations in the kitchens.

[Alexander Salenko]

I agree, moreover, it will definitely begin. revanchism.

[RoTTor]

Are you just an idiot or a provocateur?

[Bioorganism]

I completely agree. In one St. Petersburg, you can recruit a million conscripts. At least three in Moscow. Four million can throw hats on the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Add Volgograd and Rostov, and that's it, CBO is won.

[Jackson]

Are you personally ready to sit in a trench? Are you ready to send your child there? I can answer for myself - yes, if necessary, let them call, I will come. That's just the point? Heroically die? Personally, I do not have any special skills, the army is more than 20 years old, as it is behind ... What is the use of me personally ??? Ordinary cannon fodder. In our country, are there any training camps, exercises for reservists? Yes, nichrome is not carried out in reality, only, perhaps, on paper. What do you want from reservists, from mobilization? Well, let's throw all over Ukraine with corpses.
Or maybe it’s worth first all the same to begin with to call a spade a spade? Not a military defense, but a war, and it would be nice for the high command to keep their promises - where are the strikes on decision-making centers? I understand perfectly well that decisions are not made in Kyiv, but still, a strike on the city would have at least media success. Where is our hyped miracle weapon, which has no analogues in the world? We are fighting, in fact, with Soviet developments. Where are our modern Kutuzovs and Zhukovs? The generals make mistake after mistake, then Gostomel, then Izyum ... Yes, everyone makes mistakes, but in this case their mistakes are washed away with the blood of soldiers.

[Ludoman]

Are you personally ready to sit in a trench?

Already sat, and is now ready, but only on mobilization.

Are you ready to send your child there?

I can’t answer with certainty because I don’t have children, but most likely yes.

I can answer for myself - yes, if necessary, let them call, I will come. That's just the point? Heroically die? Personally, I do not have any special skills, the army is more than 20 years old, as it is behind ... What is the use of me personally ??? Ordinary cannon fodder

And they won’t send you off the couch there, first you go to study for 2-3 months, maybe longer depending on the position. And this is no longer cannon fodder, but a well-trained soldier

What do you want from reservists, from mobilization? Well, let's throw all over Ukraine with corpses.

I want to achieve a numerical superiority over the enemy, so that this is not what is happening now.

Or maybe it’s worth first all the same to begin with to call a spade a spade? Not NWO, but war

It's been a long time already.

and it would be nice for the high command to keep their promises - where are the strikes on decision-making centers?

We have little opportunity to do so.

I understand perfectly well that decisions are not made in Kyiv, but still, a strike on the city would have at least media success. Where is our hyped miracle weapon, which has no analogues in the world?

We have a promoted miracle weapon in such a meager amount that it cannot affect the course of hostilities in any way.

Where are our modern Kutuzovs and Zhukovs?

I am sure that we have good commanders, but they are provided with resources incomparable with the tasks assigned.

[Alemax]

I want to achieve a numerical superiority over the enemy, so that this is not happening now.

And what about the numerical superiority? You also say that the outcome of the operation depends on this.
What is needed is not crowds of mobilized, but elementary intelligence. Not only tactical, but the WHOLE complex of measures that ensures effective planning and management. Intelligence at all levels. Space, air, rear, military structure of the enemy. Everything must be under supervision and control. Otherwise, it will continue to be like this, like, "this is not a retreat and not a failure, this is such a regrouping." Three days thought what to say. Have thought of it.

[Ludoman]

Quote from Alex

I want to achieve a numerical superiority over the enemy, so that this is not happening now.

And what about the numerical superiority? You also say that the outcome of the operation depends on this.
What is needed is not crowds of mobilized, but elementary intelligence. Not only tactical, but the WHOLE complex of measures that ensures effective planning and management. Intelligence at all levels. Space, air, rear, military structure of the enemy. Everything must be under supervision and control. Otherwise, it will continue to be like this, like, "this is not a retreat and not a failure, this is such a regrouping." Three days thought what to say. Have thought of it.

Intelligence will scout, but who will fight back in the trenches? Also intelligence? What about attacking? And who will surround and storm Kharkov and Kyiv? Also intelligence?

[Alemax]

Only the ukrovermacht is sitting in the trenches now. No one is going to engage in trench warfare. Build fortified areas with concrete firing points too.

[Ludoman]

Quote from Alex

Only the ukrovermacht is sitting in the trenches now. No one is going to engage in trench warfare. Build fortified areas with concrete firing points too.

And what do you think it is if the front line has not changed for 2 months, if not a trench war? By the way, now it was Ukraine that accumulated reserves and crawled out of the trenches, and not us, and we had a collapse of the Kharkov front.

[Alexander Salenko]

What the hell happened? Girkin probably bit, not otherwise.

[Igor17]

No need to be sarcastic about what Strelkov was wrong about, you can list it. Can you tell me that everything was planned like that - for 7 months you couldn’t move the front from Donetsk, how could you allow the delivery of Western weapons to the front, why didn’t they gouge the railway junctions and communication centers? Yes, why there are a lot of them. They wrote about mobilization here. Mobilization involves not only recruitment into the army, mobilization is the state of the country in mortal danger. The whole West took up arms against us, as in the old days, because they will calm down only when we cease to exist as country. And now we have two countries: one, realizing the mortal danger, is at war, the other carelessly sings and dances, for some it is war, for others it is their mother. an act of "good" will, then we are fighting for fun or have not even started yet. They laughed at Kyiv’s threats to launch an offensive near Kharkov and Kherson, for two months they ranted about it, the West pumped them up with weapons, and Konoshenkov every day reported on our successes and that in the end ... they explained to us that we just redeployed from Izyum in the DNR. I look at these faces in the Government and around, which ruined our country for decades, and I understand that nothing good awaits us with these people.

[Alexander Salenko]

Excuse me, Igor, why shouldn't I be sarcastic? Girkin, like a horoscope, can guess. As for pushing back the front, who needs it? Let me remind you that in the Second World War they did not push back the front and we spent most of the war on our territory. The meaning of military operations is to defeat the enemy troops, which the theorist Girkin never said about.

[Arisaka]

With all due respect, there are interactive maps of the front on the network accelerated from September 1, 39 to September 45 on all fronts, including the Pacific. We moved the front, as the song said:

Finally we were given the order to advance
Take away our spans and crumbs
But we remember how the sun went back
And almost went to the East
We do not measure the Earth with steps
in vain teasing the flowers
We push it with our boots
From myself, from myself

[Alexander Salenko]

You do not understand, we simply had no chance to win. according to calculations. They came to kill us, the ancestors understood this. You and I are the descendants of those who were not killed.

[Alemax]

The collapse occurred even during the withdrawal of troops from the Kyiv region. And the Kharkov direction is its consequences. And you just now noticed. And positional actions were imposed on us a long time ago. This is the main problem. Such a ratio of numbers in trench wars is not involved. You woke up too late.

[Barberry25]

how much intelligence you don’t have, but when 5 are put up against your 000 troops, no intelligence will help

[Alemax]

So for this, intelligence is needed so that the enemy cannot collect 50K in one place. Is it really that hard to put two plus two together and not believe in "relocation". Such a good relocation, they won it back for half a year, they promised civilians, they stuck their administration there, and then they suddenly relocated. And how it should be. Will we relocate from Donetsk and Lugansk tomorrow? Will there be a cunning plan too?
Or Berdyansk and Kherson will merge, but let's say that we only needed the DPR?

[Barberry25]

so Kyiv has already said, the main goal is the collapse of Russia into small states, they will be given money for this topic, and we still have VPR about "now it's raining and we'll agree"

[Aleksandr7987]

"But they won't send you off the couch, first you go to study for 2-3 months, maybe longer depending on the position. And this is no longer cannon fodder, but a well-trained soldier" Essentially: a thirty-year-old relative of my wife signed in early June a contract specifically for participation in a special operation in Ukraine. They sent him to Chelyabinsk to study for one month, according to the newly-minted contract soldier. He spent only two weeks in training and went by train, as if a mega-trained warrior, to the front ... At the moment, he has been in the hospital for three weeks with shrapnel wounds after falling under shelling. Several operations have already been done, the arms and legs are in place, the rest will heal ... And I wrote to the fact that we, ordinary soldiers, have not been kept in training centers for three months and experience will have to be acquired (restored) in the trenches ...

[Barberry25]

alas, and if it is impatient, then they can immediately throw it from the military registration and enlistment office .. MO untrained in this regard ...

[UAZ 452]

Are you ready to send your child there?

I can’t answer with certainty because I don’t have children, but most likely yes.

Well, yes - most of all those who advocate mobilization are those who themselves are no longer subject to it, and have no children to be called up. And other people's children - why feel sorry for them?

[Azis]

Quote: Jackson

the army is already more than 20 years old, as it is behind ... What is the use of me personally ??? Ordinary cannon fodder

Mobilized not necessarily immediately on the LBS, it is quite possible to use it in the rear, to release personnel l / s.

[UAZ 452]

Mobilized not necessarily immediately on the LBS, it is quite possible to use it in the rear, to release personnel l / s.

Well, in Balakliya there was SOBR and mobilized from the LDNR, who remained there when the personnel were thrown near Kherson. And how is Balakleya doing now?

[Veter5757]

Soldiers want to win. And do not shed your blood for someone's lamp stupidity. As soon as blood had to be shed for lampas stupidity, soldiers prefer to leave the army.

[Alexander Salenko]

To bring shells, this is also war, to provide first aid to the wounded, to be an orderly, to replace the National Guard, there is a lot of work in the war.

[Alexander Raikov]

Unfortunately, you are right! Either it was unnecessary to start all this, or once they started it, it would finish quickly and decisively - without agreements, corridors, gestures of goodwill and all the nonsense that they saw - then from Europe they looked at everything completely differently, and from China, India, Africa. And so it’s not clear what, but the lives of the guys are leaving, and what about again at first, and in Serioz?

[igorka357]

We had our own Kutuzovs and Zhukovs, would you like to name them? This is Kvachkov, this is Rokhlin, this is Strelkov, this is Lebed (not to mention Khasavyurt) as a last resort! Do you know where they go? These people, talented in military affairs, climbed into the wrong field .. they are military, grabbed the media and got into politics, but they are not needed there .. and where are they now?

[Ne_ta]

I really want to give you a like, but I don't seem to have enough reputation for such a simple act...

[Sedoy]

It is IMPOSSIBLE to win this war only with brains, we need infantry

so far, the "brains" are losing there, not the infantry ...
"If we try to describe in a nutshell the essential reasons for what is happening now on the fronts, then: we are disentangling the consequences of disrespect for the enemy. The enemy is cool, serious, motivated, armed, equipped and has excellent intelligence, analysis and control tools. We set out to "defeat world evil without getting up from the couch”- now we are seeing firsthand what such a “strategy” leads to. "
"If we brush aside the propaganda slag about cunning plans and accept reality as it is, the conclusion to be drawn from the September events on the Kharkov front, as well as from a series of previous gestures of goodwill, should be this - the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation as a whole, as a structure - in its current form are of limited use for modern warfare. And key defects lie not in acquisition, supply, weapons, and not even in management as such, and in the level of strategic thinking, as an understanding of the rhythm and logic of confrontation."

[Evgeny_Sviridenko]

No wonder the expression appeared that the generals are preparing for the last war.

[Left shot]

Quote: Evgeny_Sviridenko

No wonder the expression appeared that the generals are preparing for the last war.

This is earlier and about the Soviet / American / European generals expression. And these colonial-feudal ones with orders to the navel (it’s sickening to watch on Victory Day how they curl around the bunker, the awards almost clap on the genitals) are not preparing for past or future wars, they are preparing only for a warm place for assholes and off-duty income.

[Alexander Salenko]

Yes, the enemy does not have such an advantage in manpower, 1 to one and a half, I believe, to two, already an overdose. Their resources are endless.

[UAZ 452]

How can mobilization be carried out if the people do not believe in the competence of the military (and not only military) command? And the slogan "The motherland is in danger!" in the minds of people it will be difficult to launch if the Ukrainians are smart enough not to invade Belgorod and Kursk.

[dorz]

Quote: faiver

you are mistaken, not mobilization is needed, but brains ....

A.V. Suvorov slowly, at a speed of 1200 rpm. flipping...

[lelik613]

No mobilization will help without brains.

[filibuster]

First of all, a clear position of the Kremlin is needed, now, in my opinion, everything looks so that there was some sense in the NWO only if it went according to the original plan for two or three weeks of the active phase, a parade in Kyiv, a pro-Russian president at the head of Ukraine.
In the current implementation, as I see it, the Kremlin itself does not know what to do. You can start fighting seriously, whatever? Fights go on for each farm, as a result, in case of victory (and Russia certainly has every opportunity to win even without mobilization), the output will be a destroyed Ukraine, an embittered population of no less than 20-25 million, and even greater international isolation of Russia. I do not rule out that now there are behind-the-scenes negotiations in order to freeze the conflict at some stage with the lifting of part of the sanctions.

[Ludoman]

and Russia certainly has every opportunity to win even without mobilization

Can you please answer how?

I do not rule out that now there are behind-the-scenes negotiations in order to freeze the conflict at some stage with the lifting of part of the sanctions.

You can not be afraid of this, no one will agree to any agreements with the Kremlin, no matter how much they would like to.

[filibuster]

Can you please answer how?

As, as always, a full-fledged war, the destruction of infrastructure (power plants, industrial facilities, etc.), an increase in the number of strikes, an increase in grouping, yes, for this you will have to expose the rear, but what to do, another question, I repeat, is it necessary for someone to get a destroyed Ukraine, the ruined economy of Russia with a difficult social situation inside.

You can not be afraid of this, no one will agree to any agreements with the Kremlin, no matter how much they would like to.

Well, what does it mean that they won’t go, it’s a question of what each side can offer and demand, for example, the most extreme option is the withdrawal of all Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine, the return of Crimea, the surrender of nuclear weapons in exchange for the lifting of all sanctions, won’t they go for it, yes I I assure you Biden will personally fly to Moscow.

Or another option is a return to the borders before February 24, a cessation of hostilities with the possibility of selling energy resources to Europe and lifting some more sanctions

[Ludoman]

As, as always, a full-fledged war, the destruction of infrastructure (power plants, industrial facilities, etc.), an increase in the number of strikes,

Well, they broke it, this led to the fact that Europe and the United States began to give even more money to Ukraine in order to prevent the collapse of its economy. It's good, but the war continues.

an increase in the number of strikes, an increase in grouping, yes, for this you will have to expose the rear, but what to do,

Stop, stop, stop, at the expense of whom are you going to increase the grouping? Who exactly? If that all combat-ready units are either fighting, or are on rotation and replenishment.

Well, what does it mean that they won’t go, it’s a question of what each side can offer and demand, for example, the most extreme option is the withdrawal of all Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine, the return of Crimea, the surrender of nuclear weapons in exchange for the lifting of all sanctions, won’t they go for it, yes I I assure you Biden will personally fly to Moscow.

Or another option is a return to the borders before February 24, a cessation of hostilities with the possibility of selling energy resources to Europe and lifting some more sanctions

Option 1 is generally not acceptable for the Kremlin, and 2 for Europe, the USA and Ukraine.

[filibuster]

Well, they broke it, this led to the fact that Europe and the United States began to give even more money to Ukraine in order to prevent the collapse of its economy. It's good, but the war continues.

You apparently have no idea what it means if the ten largest cities in Ukraine are left without electricity, water supply, gas supply. In this case, Russia does not even need to do anything, just not allow it all to be restored and wait for the country to slowly die out.

Stop, stop, stop, at the expense of whom are you going to increase the grouping? Who exactly? If that all combat-ready units are either fighting, or are on rotation and replenishment.

At the expense of contractors and formed reserves, which began to be formed since March, but apparently the Kremlin believes that it is a military solution in Ukraine that has no prospects.

Option 1 is generally not acceptable for the Kremlin, and 2 for Europe, the USA and Ukraine.

1. Again, questions of conditions, Crimea can be transferred within 50 years, nuclear weapons can be handed over in parts, but my point is that each side has arguments for negotiations. And in the same way, the US and the West understand the danger of driving Russia into a corner.
2. For Europe, in general, there is a direct interest in energy resources, no, Europe will not freeze as they say in Russian propaganda, but the industry will suffer and will suffer very much, losing competitiveness with respect to China and the United States (the two main beneficiaries), and the EU will be quite satisfied with returning to the borders before 24 February and the cessation of hostilities. Plus, here Zelensky demanded “only” $300 billion in reparations, roughly equal to the amount of frozen Russian assets.

In general, in my opinion (and VO users will obviously not like it), there was no point in this NWO, and if there was already such a need to protect the population of the LDNR, then it was necessary for the whole group to go into the LDNR to dig in and look at the situation. Well, if we are not happy in Ukraine, why go there, you just need to take into account that there is such a hostile state.

[Ludoman]

You apparently have no idea what it means if the ten largest cities in Ukraine are left without electricity, water supply, gas supply. In this case, Russia does not even need to do anything, just not allow it all to be restored and wait for the country to slowly die out.

They will not surrender, you can not count on it, some will become refugees, some will go into the army, some will suffer. We do not have the resources to fight for 20 years and use this method to bleed Ukraine, especially without mobilization.

At the expense of contractors and formed reserves, which began to be formed since March, but apparently the Kremlin believes that it is a military solution in Ukraine that has no prospects.

contractors? You apparently don’t realize the real state of affairs, 1 friend won 4 months from me, and then when the unit arrived for rotation, he broke the contract, and to put it mildly, according to him, he was far from alone, but the 2nd friend received a shrapnel wound and already went back to fight. Those 50 thousand formed reserves are nothing, during this time Ukraine has mobilized much more.

1. Again, questions of conditions, Crimea can be transferred within 50 years, nuclear weapons can be handed over in parts, but my point is that each side has arguments for negotiations. And in the same way, the US and the West understand the danger of driving Russia into a corner.

For such an agreement, a revolution will begin in our country, the patriots will declare the government traitors, and most of the country will agree with this.

2. For Europe, in general, there is a direct interest in energy resources, no, Europe will not freeze as they say in Russian propaganda, but the industry will suffer and will suffer very much, losing competitiveness with respect to China and the United States (the two main beneficiaries), and the EU will be quite satisfied with returning to the borders before 24 February and the cessation of hostilities.

But for such a revolution will already begin in Ukraine, because the society will not accept it. And the EU and the US also understand this, so they will not agree to this.

In general, in my opinion (and VO users will obviously not like it), there was no point in this CBO

The meaning was. The West encroached on our interests, both economic, political and security, the surrender of our interests was equal to the loss of our status as a great power. And there is nothing terrible, by the way, that sooner or later Ukraine would have flooded into the Donbass, and then we would still have been faced with the question of throwing 2 million of our comrades to the slaughter, or joining the war, on unfavorable terms.

and if there was already such a need to protect the population of the LDNR, then it was necessary for the whole group to go into the LDNR to dig in and look at the situation. Well, if we are not happy in Ukraine, why go there, you just need to take into account that there is such a hostile state.

Yeah, to hit our foreheads from the fortifications that were built there for 8 years, and even if we broke through them and seized the territory, Ukraine would not agree with its loss and we would find ourselves in the same situation as now.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from: filibuster

Or another option is a return to the borders before February 24, a cessation of hostilities with the possibility of selling energy resources to Europe and lifting some more sanctions

Selling at quoted prices. The surrender of Donbass, Crimea .. + all kinds of disarmament and division of Russia into separate uluses-principalities ... It will only be this way and no other way. There is a third option for Shoigu to retire (let him cut out pieces of wood in Tuva) New beginning. Gen. Headquarters, willingness to fight until Victory, (forgive me moderators!) and not chew snot and feel eggs in your pocket. They will also come up with a pancake .... Clinton - ""An operation was carried out to regroup troops» Are there really such fools in the press center of the Army ?

[Monarchist]

The embittered population of Ukraine will be in any case for the next at least another 50 years.

[filibuster]

Well, what to do, we are not the only ones, the Chinese and the Japanese do not like each other, to put it mildly, the North Koreans and South Koreans, etc.

[Suraikin.Aleksandr]

The Chinese and the Japanese are not fraternal peoples to each other!

[Dmitry Chelyabinsk]

In 1861-1865 the Northerners conquered the South of the USA. Southerners quite themselves believed that "the South is not the Yankees" (reminiscent of "Ukraine is not Russia") and really hated the Yankees. Judging by the novel "Gone with the Wind", they hated it 50 years after the Civil War. But 150 years have passed. Who will say now that the southern states are not America?
Probably also with Ukraine. Endure, fall in love.

[UAZ 452]

The embittered population of Ukraine will be in any case for the next at least another 50 years.

Judging by the novel "Gone with the Wind", they hated it 50 years after the Civil War. But 150 years have passed. Who will say now that the southern states are not America?
Probably also with Ukraine. Endure, fall in love.

Well, you agreed with each other! Will fall in love after 150 years. Maybe.

[Igor17]

Nothing, we have the experience of Germany - the GDR.

[Barberry25]

fighting for each farm, because we have 50 people engaged in assault against 150 enemy people, and if you use the tactics of overwhelming superiority, then the result will be similar, the words about "With two hundred guns per kilometer of front, they don’t ask or report about the enemy, but only report , to what extent our advancing units have reached. "It was not in vain that they were said at the time, so we need infantry and artillery .. We have 10 units of 000/122 mm caliber in warehouses, you still need to switch completely to long-range 152 mm systems, and 152 pieces of artillery and 1 personnel on a front of 000-50 km will allow you to calmly carry out an offensive operation 000-50 km deep

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: faiver

you are mistaken, not mobilization is needed, but brains ....

And also so that the wallet does not hang over the brains and conscience.

[ALMO]

One does not cancel the other. Partial, not total, apparently necessary.

[dementor873]

We need the mobilization of brains from the USSR instead of this asshole lampas in command. It's just too late...

[Ryazan87]

"Brains from the USSR" say, instead of ..
Will Valery Vasilyevich Gerasimov suit you?
"... He graduated from the Kazan Suvorov Military School (1971-1973) with honors, the Kazan Higher Tank Command School named after the Supreme Council of the Tatar ASSR (1973-1977) with a gold medal, the Military Academy of Armored Forces named after Marshal of the Soviet Union R. Ya. Malinovsky ( 1984-1987) with honors"?
Or Sergey Fedorovich Rudskoy?
"... In 1977 he graduated from the Minsk Suvorov Military School, then in 1981 the Moscow Higher Combined Arms Command School named after the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR"
Well, Sergey Vladimirovich Surovikin will definitely fit:
"In 1987 he graduated with a gold medal from the Omsk Higher Combined Arms Command School named after M.V. Frunze."

[jovanni]

Quote: faiver

you are mistaken, not mobilization is needed, but brains ....

Then a dead number. Mobilization can somehow be carried out, but there is nowhere to get brains from. Trouble...

[Mikhail V.]

How many boots flew out of Chechnya? Apparently the fodder was not the same, and the carts did not have time to come up in time.
Vladimir Vladimirovich, give us the opportunity, we will end this war ... before the Ramadan holiday.

[EGP]

Alas, both seem to be required. And mobilization and brains.

[seregatara1969]

win! it is necessary to remove all saboteurs and cowards from leading positions

[Sevastiec]

Do all the good things and do nothing bad.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: seregatara1969

it is necessary to remove all saboteurs and cowards from leading positions

And who will replace them? VVP, on his own, with his own hands, cleaned out the entire sensible officer corps from the army, leaving only "administrators"

[Darkness]

Well... There are nuclear weapons.
But if we still have not turned off the electricity in the cities of Ukraine ...

[Grigory Remarque]

Well... There are nuclear weapons.
But if we still have not turned off electricity in the cities of Ukraine.

This is what annoys me the most. Everything is calm in Kuev, Blinkin travels around, nightclubs work, restaurants. They should shit themselves in the dark, without communication and the Internet. Some kind of deal or betrayal. The Americans in Belgrade first of all de-energized the whole country with graphite bombs, all the bridges were gouged. It is also calm here and equipment and l / s are thrown by a piece of iron. Some shame.

[mikh-korsakov]

Have you regrouped? Fantastic lies. In every possible way he averted himself from sweeping condemnation, but after reading this, he remembered Kislitsky's phrase from "The Twelve Chairs" - Kisa is a giant of thought! However, they are right, any retreat is a regrouping.

[Roman Efremov]

And someone in the West is outraged that in Russia, which has been waging a war under sanctions for half a year, everything is calm and even prices have risen quite a bit. Strange war, strange

[ruha]

How many months the Americans have been waiting for us to start clearly bombing everything. They waited and waited and thought "yes, these are some kind of fighting hamsters, these Russians, not the same as before" and let's develop plans ...

[mojohed2012]

The outfit of forces and means of the rear maneuverable groups of Russian troops of the brave groupings that were kept to stop the offensive by the Armed Forces turned out to be wildly small and insufficient in comparison with the numerous land forces that are advancing. It was this shortcoming and the late reaction to the promotion of the SU that played a role.
With such forces, no one has ever won a war with any advantages in art.
APU is massively supported by Western PMCs, Western artillery and rocket launchers. Near Kharkov, our forces were greatly weakened in favor of attacks on Seversk, Bakhmut.
And yes. GDP was only peppy good news and intelligence.
Now, as Stalin on June 22-25, 42, the General Staff and GDP are clearly in shock!

Plans for a war with small forces against a huge Ukraine with a large maubremurs have finally failed. And this is understood in the Kremlin, but inertia and non-recognition of mistakes delays the start of mobilization.

[Ivan Ivanov]

So maybe GDP considers this a regrouping?

[dmi.pris1]

It’s impossible to fight against a prepared enemy with that amount of infantry. It’s impossible to quickly increase the number of personnel. We simply don’t have them, there are so many infantry fighters. we will keep the south. But this is a double-edged sword. They will kick us out of the Kharkiv region and climb in the Uglegorsk direction. According to the data, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being pulled there

[Ivan Ivanov]

In confirmation of:

"The need to "transfer" large contingents of troops by curtailing entire areas again raises the issue of the insufficient size of the group in the entire theater of operations as a whole. From February to September, they tried to solve this issue by strengthening recruitment for contract service, mobilization in the DPR and LPR, recruitment in PMCs, the formation of BARS, 3rd Corps, etc. However, six months later, the problem still exists and has the most serious impact on the course of operations. (With)

[Ivan Ivanov]

Given that the infantry must be motivated and in civil society, if possible, pluralism should be avoided in relation to the operation.

[dmi.pris1]

And here you are right. Society, if we take all the citizens of Russia, is divided into three parts. Patriots, infidels, and small louse are hidden enemies. There is no unity.

[Hypertension]

Quote: dmi.pris

there are quite a lot of pofigists.

Why should there be less of them? The population was instilled with forced helplessness. People feel incapable of changing anything. What does the initiative do to the initiator? He defended himself from a bully, exceeded the limits of self-defense - you sit down. There are a lot of police in the state, but "when they kill, then apply." Choose do not choose - the same ... faces. To achieve something from an official, you need to stock up on great patience and nerves. There is no ideology. Diasporas and migrants are intertwined with corruption and do their own dark deeds. Demographics down. Incomes are falling. There is no money, but you hold on and treat this with understanding. And only beautiful slogans about a brighter future. Therefore, pofigists.

[Monarchist]

It's time to understand for a long time that Ukraine has been hating us for years, almost all of us! And will hate even more! Everything that is happening now Ukrainians have created with their own hands and their meanness. So they need it! It is no longer possible to engage in scraping and super caution! These are the enemies! The whole country plus the West!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: mojohed2012

And yes. GDP was only peppy good news and intelligence.
Now, as Stalin on June 22-25, 42, the General Staff and GDP are clearly in shock!

So shocked that the wheel disgust opens.

[Karabin]

Quote: mojohed2012

And yes. GDP was only peppy good news and intelligence.

What kind of news the GDP wanted to receive, such was sent.

[AlexTires]

North Koreans, unless

[Aerodrome]

what konashenkov carries ... ears wither .. I'll probably watch the "security council" and go to bed peaceful ... https://all-make.net/sovbez-ot-10-09-2022.html

[Victor_B]

Quote: Aerodrome

what konashenkov carries ... ears wither .. I'll probably watch the "security council" and go to bed peaceful ... https://all-make.net/sovbez-ot-10-09-2022.html

Konashenkov must be driven and driven for a long time, as if he had played the information war outright!

[Bourgeois]

Yes, where does Konashenkov. He voices what he is given, nothing more. He is not engaged in any war, he is just the talking head of the MO. To be offended by him, for some kind of announced news, is the same as being offended by ... a radio or your own TV)

[Azis]

Quote: Bourgeois

he's just a talking head mo

Why do we need an announcer-general with the corresponding monetary allowance? KMK, today in Russia there are more generals than in the USSR, in irresponsible and decorative positions ..

[AlexTires]

It’s better not to look, there the Nebenze will offer negotiations and surrender conditions ...

[dmi.pris1]

I haven’t watched TV for many years. In February, I turned on the news, but my brains began to turn off. And I had to turn on my brains, and turn off the TV again

[Victor_B]

Konashenkov should have been kicked out a long time ago, as the head of the department, which, under his strict guidance, COMPLETELY merged the information war into one gate.

[Roma 1977]

It's not about Konashenkov. This state of the Russian Federation does not wage war. Neither ordinary nor informational.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Roma-1977

It's not about Konashenkov. This state of the Russian Federation does not wage war.

The state does nothing.
Waging war (in this case informational) specific officials.
Konashenkov was not appointed to this position in February, so we can discuss the RESULTS of his activities in this post.
The results are disastrous!
Now I just can’t find the words of Evdokimov’s kakperanga, who in one of his videos maybe he even accuses Konashenkov of this that he created a cozy family get-together in which no one is responsible for anything.

[Roma 1977]

Unfortunately or fortunately, Konashenkov is in no way responsible for the extremely insufficient density of troops in the NVO zone. And how many krakens were destroyed in a week, he reported regularly, for those who watch TV and have little interest in life.

[paul3390]

It is possible without mobilization - if you do not engage in idiotic games like a special operation, and finally, after half a year, start fighting in earnest. HOW could the ukrovermacht be allowed to accumulate such forces in the most important direction? How could this be missed? And it’s very simple - for this it was just enough not to touch their communications. In particular - through the Dnieper. All Ukraine is cut by rivers and rivulets, and on each there are bridges. Which are intact to this day. The piece of iron, through which everything is supplied, also functions quite cheerfully. With such scenarios, one thing is surprising, why they didn’t screw us up earlier.

With a multiple of less manpower - SO not a damn war can be won. If the enemy moves quite calmly along his rear and has the ability to accumulate and supply large groups in any place convenient for him. And technical superiority - just allows this opportunity to destroy it. But - as we see, it is not destroyed. Therefore, we get an absolutely natural result. Further - it will only get worse, because now NATO will throw even more weapons - well, how, under such and such a victory? Moreover, there are no obstacles to the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on our part, and apparently there won’t be.

[Himalayan]

Himalayan
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The President of Russia ordered the transfer of strategic deterrence forces to a special mode of combat duty
I am responsible for my words. There, a gigantic percentage of the population is ready to engage in partisanship. Weapons are already in the hands of tens - if not hundreds of thousands. They will not shoot in the forehead. They, with a frightened population, will not allow a peaceful life to be established. There are 30 thousand troops for a 200 millionth country ... where there are combat troops - let 40-70 thousand ... Do not talk nonsense. Otherwise collapse and wild victims
For the 2nd Chechnya, where the population was only 700 thousand, how much time and effort was needed ..

[paul3390]

In conditions when the ukrovermacht has the ability to train, prepare and put together reserves on NATO territory, at the same time arming them with Western weapons there, and then delivering all this to the front with absolutely no hindrance - I'm afraid we will really have to carry out a general mobilization .. For by winter - the millionth prepared ukrovermacht and the truth can become a reality. And here - one can no longer win by contractors. Why win there - to keep your borders ..

For all communications are intact, the West continued to receive our resources regularly for half a year, despite the armament and support of Tsegabonia, how can one win under such conditions ?? They are our enemies - tanks and artillery, and we answer them - gas and coal .. For - like sacred contracts .. Excuse me, this is some kind of crap, not war ..

War is when in a month nothing is going anywhere on the territory of the enemy. And all his allies - immediately receive the most severe embargo on any raw material, without any exceptions. In order to think about their behavior .. And so ..

[Oleg]

And so ... "special military operation."

[Carlos Hall]

Comrade, this has just begun. The US is behaving like a predator. and Russia with one hand tied behind his back. In this very good military magazine, where so many honest people participate, several obvious shortcomings have been pointed out. and the truth is that hardly any decision was made. There are disturbing, mysterious problems. Especially in relation to such an army as the Russian one, one of the best armies in the world, I think about some strange things, extremely serious ones, but at this moment it is better to be silent and lend a helping hand

[alexey sidykin]

Have you already volunteered?

[ALMO]

Well, why this vulgar demagoguery?

[alexey sidykin]

Which should have been proved ...

[iouris]

Quote: Arzamas

without mobilization this war cannot be won

Then Konoshenkov will become a colonel-general.
Perhaps we need to reconsider the methods of fighting and rebuild the organization. We must learn from NATO and check how those who fight are provided. Find out what they are missing. Deputies should systematically visit the cutting edge, delve into it. We are talking about the fate of the Fatherland (in which they are deputies).

[Repellent]

Quote: iouris

Deputies should systematically visit the cutting edge, delve into

Wow, right. There they will be shot, not Ukrainians, but their own. All good.

The only sensible suggestion from you, by the way. You are not a relative of Peskov, by any chance? You sweep the blizzard quite professionally, I must admit ...

[Fedorovich]

And why aren't you at the front yet?

[Garik Gorkin]

Quote: Arzamas

Unfortunately, this war cannot be won without mobilization.

The issue of the lack of any resources (human, financial, technical) will be solved cardinally only if Putin manages to clean up the fifth column in power.

Article "Why RUSSIA is a COLONY"
https://solovyeva.livejournal.com/331687.html

The war requires huge expenses, but huge money is pumped out of Russia to the West through the Central Bank, in the amount of about $ 200 billion a year (this is a ten-year-old calculation, and it is unlikely that anything has changed). At the same time, the US is waging war against us with our money.
Article "The Central Bank is NOT subordinate to anyone in Russia"
https://solovyeva.livejournal.com/342274.html

Our media works for our enemies.
"Who are the guardians and pseudo-patriots? Why are they more dangerous than the Navalnis?"
https://solovyeva.livejournal.com/346245.html

"Zero powers of Putin. Comparison with Britain."
https://solovyeva.livejournal.com/330539.html

If Russia acquires SOVEREIGNTY, then the war in Ukraine can be won even without mobilization and very quickly, by creating a nuclear threat to the United States.
For the United States, this is an absolutely unacceptable option (remember the Caribbean crisis), so they will quickly end military operations in Ukraine.

[Boril]

Unfortunately, this war cannot be won without mobilization.

If time is missed, and mobilization does not win. And it's missed.

[isv000]

Quote: Arzamas

Unfortunately, this war cannot be won without mobilization.

The answer to your words on your avatar - this is exactly the guy you need to turn to for a hundred or two thousand airborne builders ...

[Victor_B]

An operation was carried out to regroup troops"

Aha

an operation was carried out to "organize the transfer of the Izyum-Balakley group of troops to the territory of the DPR." At the same time, the true intentions of the command were masked in order to disorient the enemy

The enemy is confused...
Scared!

high-precision weapons in the Kharkiv region, in the vicinity of Balakleya and Chuguev, the headquarters of the 5th brigade of the National Guard, the temporary accommodation of the personnel of the 92nd mechanized brigade and units of neo-Nazis from the Kraken formation, in the Ray-Aleksandrovka region of the DPR - the command post of the 54th mechanized brigade . As a result, up to 300 servicemen were eliminated, the enemy lost 15 pieces of equipment.

And yes, destroyed!
And for some reason I remembered some polymers ...

[New-pechkin]

The enemy is confused...
Scared!

... while the enemy draws offensive maps, we change landscapes, and manually. When the time comes to attack, the enemy is lost in unfamiliar terrain and comes to full sky readiness. This is the point. This is our strategy... Film "DMB". But to be honest, it's not funny anymore.

[Victor_B]

Quote from: New-pechkin

But to be honest, it's not funny anymore.

It's definitely not funny...

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Victor_B

And yes, destroyed!
And for some reason I remembered some polymers ...

and win me...

[Frost]

Here it is, it turns out, but to the locals who were given tricolors with passports and shone on all TV channels, you hold on, all the best.

[SARMAT123]

Yes, sorry people...

[dmi.pris1]

And urgently evacuate people, right away ... They believed, the Motherland came. And then ..

[Victor_B]

Quote: Hoarfrost

Here it is, it turns out, but to the locals who were given tricolors with passports and shone on all TV channels, you hold on, all the best.

For Bandera, punitive measures are a favorite pastime ...
Their methods of intimidation have worked out like clockwork ...
And not a single swindler in the bourgeoisie will "notice" their crimes.

[Drotro]

On the contrary, punishers and others like them are called fair fighters against the invaders.

[SARMAT123]

My question is where is intelligence? They did not gather there in one day ..

[AlexTires]

Didn't you understand anything? Do you think Abramovich in vain dissects all over the world in negotiations?

[Heisenberg]

My question is where is intelligence?
What difference does it make where intelligence is?! A huge downfall has begun. It was already clear how everything would end when Abrasha was sent to Istanbul. He didn't go there on his own.

[Evgeny_Sviridenko]

The question is certainly important, but it seems to me that intelligence worked fine. Then the following question naturally arises, why, having all the data on hand, this situation was allowed to happen.

[Eug]

It remains to add "in order to shorten the front line" .... or rather, not the front, but "the line of contact."

[kravch67k]

ALIGNMENT!!!

[skeptick2]

Yeah. Plus a goodwill gesture.

[Darkness]

Now this is called regrouping..
I am ready to admit that I am full of mud ... if this turns out to be true and our army will arrange another cauldron for the enemy!

[PavelV]

And I'm ready to shave my head, put on rabbit ears from a sex shop and thongs and walk, in this form, through the center of Moscow !!
No, well, I don’t know how to influence these geniuses anymore .....

[kravch67k]

It's already cold...

[PavelV]

yes, I know, !
(miles sorry for the mat)

[dmi.pris1]

Yes, we all hope that they will still drive the APU into the boiler to hell. We have to wait .. Something

[PavelV]

As my grandmother said, the Kingdom of Heaven to her:
"Shameful" (c)

[Roma 1977]

Something takes a long time to regroup. In my memory for half a year ...

[DeusExMachina]

These are the consequences of the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a two-threefold advantage in numbers, at least.

[Vladimir M]

Make these 400-500 thousand more guilty, that only 200 thousand are butting against them. And where is aviation, artillery, missile troops. It looks like it's time to send "tank biathlons" for reinforcement, you can't win without them.

[DeusExMachina]

And here "guilty 400 thousand"? They are conducting a full-scale mobilization. We are only recruiting volunteers on a short-term contract. Perhaps this situation will force to attract more human resources.

And, yes, as Roman 1977 noted, a lot of things from the NATO security and intelligence complex work for them, so they are not born here either.

[RGB]

Disagree with you. This situation, on the contrary, will reduce the flow of willing volunteers. Few people want to become disabled or give their lives because of the illiterate actions of the army leadership!

[DeusExMachina]

Well, either that, or a terrible word with the letter "M", where no one will ask anyone else what is happening in Ukraine.

[Sebostyuan]

Who will now sign up to fight under such control, with incomprehensible goals of the NWO. She has one life and does not want to trust her into the hands of a group of comrades with limited liability.

[Drotro]

The country was divided, all the bright goals in life were taken away. Everyone lives on their own. And at the same time he pulls on his family, helps his parents.
Here the question is not the value of the life of one person, but the value of the life of this person for loved ones.

[Roma 1977]

In addition to the numerical advantage on the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, satellite reconnaissance and target designation of the United States and satellite military communications from the same place.

[Vladimir M]

And who is to blame that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have all this? Remember, when on the first day the Strategic Missile Forces troops were put on high alert, the same US turned its tail between its legs. But when we realized that our "red lines" are not quite red, then it all started

[paul3390]

And who is to blame that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have all this?

Maybe - those who did not allow to finish off the Ukrainian military in 2014? And then - regularly supplied the junta with gas, coal, electricity, fuel and lubricants and other goodies for eight years? Well, at least they didn’t sell weapons to them ...

[Roma 1977]

That is, you also propose to use the nuclear argument at the tactical level? This requires even more iron political will than declaring martial law in the country and partial mobilization.

[solar]

Not in "increased readiness", but in "a special mode of combat duty."
And what it is, no one knows, including the military. There is no such term.
The military, with all their desire, could not fulfill this instruction.
The statement is purely "to frighten" the enemy.

[donavi49]

So it wasn't taken into account? It was believed that Putin's speech on the topic - oh no weapons and help, otherwise it will be something that you yourself cannot imagine, will it scare the West?

Moreover, intelligence data, planning, communications, military GPS are being established quite quietly, much quieter than the deliveries of which Himars or F-16s, which are already being talked about in thick hints.

And then, Russia has its own satellite constellation, its military Glonass, its own secure communications. What's the point in complaining?

[Vladimir M]

It looks like all this: a satellite constellation, its own military Glanos, secure communications were "supposed" by someone. But biathlon ... our everything. How would not have to fall at the feet of Serdyukov and ask him to return, so that he would clean up a little again. The fact after the purges of Serdyukov was the Crimea.

[Roma 1977]

I mean that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have trump cards besides simple numbers. And, probably, such large-scale assistance from the West was indeed not initially considered as a possible option.

[forty-eighth]

Oh, dear, give me your vision of the operational situation. Do you have an adequate assessment of the situation?

[dmi.pris1]

In the cart they write ten times in some areas. For four months, a 50 thousandth group was prepared over the hill. Here is the result

[Vladimir M]

And how did it happen that they were able to concentrate a group of 50 thousand and no one noticed it and took action?

[maxim1987]

As indicated, over the past three days, an operation was carried out to "organize the transfer of the Izyum-Balakley group of troops to the territory of the DPR." At the same time, the true intentions of the command were masked in order to disorient the enemy:

During this operation, a number of distraction and demonstration activities were carried out with the designation of the real actions of the troops.

Are you pissing in people's ears. That is, to give the Ukrainians territories where Russian passports have already been issued in order to regroup? DISHAMINATIONS!!! but about the hundreds of times destroyed "Sraken" it would be better if they were silent at all

[spirit]

It's just Horror! The PR service of the MO is below the plinth. I was waiting for what this character would say and how to get out.

[Third district]

Then everything is clear, this is not a retreat from the previously taken cities. This is the transfer of troops. And the fact that the civilian population, which was loyal to us, will now muzzle the Nazis, it's okay. It happens.

[RED_ICE]

Nothing is clear, but interesting. And we used to laugh at the statements of the GSH VSU. Such as "offensive to the rear", "extraction" captured, etc.

[Leshak]

Local residents who believed in Russia, it seems, were thrown without regret ... Some kind of crap turns out, gentlemen, comrades ...

[AlexTires]

They can’t even come up with something new ... For this is not even a defeat, this is already some kind of combination similar to the targeted surrender of the Kharkov region ... IMHO, of course

[RGB]

It’s a pity for Kanashnekov, you have to take the entire shameful blow for the entire General Staff on yourself!

[DominickS]

My thoughts creep in that he, like the General Staff, does not care what anyone thinks there. As Arshavin used to say: "Your expectations are your problems."

[dauria]

It’s a pity for Kanashnekov, you have to take the entire shameful blow for the entire General Staff on yourself!

Nothing, he will receive a monetary allowance - he will be consoled.

[kventinasd]

Cool regrouping, you will not say anything.

Queues of refugees gathered at the checkpoint in the village of Logachevka in the Belgorod region
According to the authorities, mobile food stations have been deployed there and food and water delivery to the Kharkiv side has been organized. Heating points are also organized.

Substitute so many people in three days, only our Defense Ministry can do it.

[freddyk]

Quote: kventinasd

Substitute so many people in three days, only our Defense Ministry can do it.

[Sanguinius]

What does this help was organized by volunteers, not the state

[Kuziming]

The fire bag expands.

[Quinto]

Fluffy hedgehogs were silent for three days ... and it would be better if they were silent further. How could this be soaked? Shame

[dmi.pris1]

They couldn’t come up with a digestible text in any way. It would be better if they honestly admitted. As a result of attacks by numerically superior forces, the enemy drove us out of settlements.

[Quinto]

Yes, but I feel with my liver the situation there is much worse in the sense that it was not a military defeat ... it’s the same as it was near Kyiv and near Sumy, they concocted another behind-the-scenes agreement for thirty pieces of silver, for dubious concessions and buns (and for these crumbs they throw, I'm sure) And the consequences of this will be far-reaching

[Vitaly161]

Well, it’s necessary to describe the surrender of a huge territory so beautifully ... regrouping ...

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Vitaliy161

Well, it’s necessary to describe the surrender of a huge territory so beautifully ... regrouping ...

Now the organizers of shame and large-scale defeat with a light hand turn into brilliant strategists and can distribute medals to each other.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Vitaliy161

Well, it’s necessary to describe the surrender of a huge territory so beautifully ... regrouping ...

It used to be called a "goodwill gesture"

[faiver]

it's so cool, you need to be able to ....

[painter]

How everything is very very tricky

[ALARI]

A decision was made to regroup the Russian troops stationed in the Balakleya and Izyum regions in order to build up efforts in the Donetsk direction. We will define your shameful illness as a feat. We will send to the landing there you will start to shit. Film DMB.

[ism_ek]

Just wondering where are the parts of our combined arms armies .. 20th, 35th? Who stormed Izyum and Liman.? It is hard to believe that all of them could have been withdrawn in 3 days ... In the Kherson region, the Airborne Forces. Perhaps there was some kind of regrouping.

[GNM]

On the next branch I read the assumption:

All this is happening as if the Russian army is deliberately accepting the enemy's advance without putting up much resistance, and creating a new long-term front, while the fighting shows that the Russians are capable of resisting.
Is there an agreement on the exchange of the territory of Kharkiv in exchange for the territory of Donbass?

I, too, am also "tormented by vague doubts." (C)
They knew about the offensive for a long time, there are reserves (3rd Corps) - they marked resistance and retreated

[TatarinSSSR]

Even if this is true, then no one else among Ukrainian citizens living in settlements who are waiting for "liberation" from the Ukronazis will believe us and will not cooperate with us. And then suddenly again the regrouping at the General Staff.

[Viktor29]

So after all, we killed over 2000 of their militants, and even "organized regrouped", well, who's to say that this is not a victory?

[Anton Boldakov]

“The sea is rising and the light is dimming. As soon as we lose faith in each other, the sea will swallow us up and the light will go out. On that day, the sun will go below the horizon for the last time.

[Comrade I]

And what are the locals loyal to us to do now?
How many are there? How many thousands will now go through hell and/or be killed?

[AVESSALOM]

There, now the living will envy the dead. It’s good if they kill them right away, many will be tortured ...

[ruha]

Most likely they rent out territories where the local population is not very loyal to us. In percentage terms.

[AVESSALOM]

It turns out that disloyal passports were handed out to a camera with a TV show?

[sofkar]

over the past three days, an operation was carried out to "organize the transfer of the Izyum-Balakley group of troops to the territory of the DPR

Ok, in the DPR the grouping will intensify. And what will happen to the Izyum-Balakleysky LDP?

[AlexTires]

Nothing will be there. The liberation of the SKA was covered by an organ. God forbid in Belgorod zhovto blpkitnye will not appear

[solar]

If he disappears, that Ukrainian troops will also be released from this theater of operations, and they will be transferred to the Donetsk direction.
What then is the meaning of "regrouping"?

[IvanSviridov]

Regrouping....

[Ivan Ivanov]

It is interesting what Strelkov wrote on July 25, he guessed the development of events:

https://istrelkov.ru/1899-igor-strelkov-i-teper-mukden-ne-za-gorami.html

[leks]

Quote: IvanIvanov

It is interesting what Strelkov wrote on July 25, he guessed the development of events:

https://istrelkov.ru/1899-igor-strelkov-i-teper-mukden-ne-za-gorami.html

So he predicted a lot of things, what and how it will be.
More precisely, he did not predict, but analyzed the situation and understood that the probability of such and such an outcome is very high. Therefore, they began to poison him as a whiner and an alarmist. Only now this man turned out to be much smarter.

[Gardamir]

"Our king is Mukden, our king is Tsushima,

[anjey]

You can just go crazy from these multi-way, our mysterious soul is just fantastic ....

[opuonmed]

and did anyone think that Ukrainians could go further, for example, to the territory of the Russian Federation? the United States will instruct them on this! shas here is their usa shaves are training the technique of dadyut! the United States and the Britons and Europe have the same goal of victory on the battlefield! and yes, the shaves and the United States are simple so they won’t give dough! Well, it's just a theory, nothing more! it’s simple if we withdraw troops to the DPR, then how will we win if they train and give weapons and they will attack to the last Ukrainian and the Russian Federation does not hit the rear and infrastructure? Well, either I'm wrong and I don't understand!

[RGB]

Not only you! Here, few people understand the latest actions of the VPR from the word at all!

[moscowp]

Just eat

[moscowp]

A wonderful quote from Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace:
“In the newspapers, from which the old prince first learned about the defeat of Austerlitz, it was written, as always, very briefly and vaguely, that the Russians, after brilliant battles, had to retreat and made a retreat in perfect order. The old prince understood from this official news that ours were completely defeated"
https://t.me/GoshaCatsand/77480

[platoon]

Having visited Les Invalides in Paris in 1999, I was surprised to find the mention of Borodino among the 12 great victories (the battle of Moscow in literal translation) on the stones at the sarcophagus of Bonaparte.
I asked the guide a question, received a reasonable answer - there was a battle, the Russian troops, as a result, retreated from the battlefield ... We know how you Russians interpret Borodino in your history ... but these are exclusively your problems.
I wiped myself...

[moscowp]

Well, strictly speaking, we have never declared the Battle of Borodino a victory. Rather, as a moral victory, that there was no obvious defeat of the Russian army (although she lost half of her troops) and she retreated not under the onslaught of the enemy, but realizing her losses and the inability to continue to fight.

[Rakovor]

Why not under pressure? All the positions that the French attacked were taken by them in battle.

[Stirbjorn]

I'll also add a classic
"The colonel went home in a disgusting mood. The next morning, his mood became even worse, because in the newspapers that he read while lying in bed, in a report from the theater of operations, he came across the phrase several times: "Our troops retreated to previously prepared positions. "A glorious period for the Austrian army has come, like two drops of water similar to the days at Šabac."

[moscowp]

Must re-read!

[Lex_is]

Oh how! Not a retreat, but an operation to "organize the transfer of the Izyum-Balakley group of troops to the territory of the DPR."

Probably the equipment was not abandoned, but handed over to "respected partners".

Were locals with issued passports transferred to the Donetsk direction? Or to hell with them, with crypto-Ukrainians?

[Suraikin.Aleksandr]

This statement is directed only at those who are used to receiving information from the state media, the state apparently waved its hand at everyone else and does not consider it necessary to explain anything!
If, as a result, nothing is done, no errors will be taken into account and corrected! Then apparently we are really witnessing the beginning of the end of the NWO, with all the grave consequences for the Russian Federation!

[platoon]

I steadily feel like the dumbest sheep ... at least in the eyes of the Ministry of Defense of my Motherland.

[TatarinSSSR]

Why, as defeatist all-propalish comments, so immediately a recently registered user on the site? CIPSO will one day be calculated and Caliber will fly to you there. Wait.

[Goffman]

Errors will be taken into account. If the leadership manages to get out of this crisis with a failed air defense system, in a month of peacetime Solovyov will again thunder about "arrrmaty", Su-57 (now it is inconvenient to raise these topics). Shoigu will read from a piece of paper about the lessons that artificial intelligence draws from the SVO, which directed missiles at targets in the second stage of the operation. This is for an internal audience. And in the international arena, the tsar for the next 12 years of his reign will be the source of most peace-loving initiatives, ready to participate in any good deeds, take on increased obligations to the country in any projects and, in general, a very pleasant politician in communication: "A brick factory? - Me! (Russia, then - Sandy quarry? - Me!" and i.d.

[AVESSALOM]

The enemy shamefully ran after our valiantly retreating troops...

[Vyacheslav Borichevsky]

The paradox of this situation is that along the way, our generals again screwed up on a big scale! And where is our vaunted intelligence? How could the preparation and accumulation of forces be squandered! And a stupid report about strikes with calibers at places of accumulation already when the attack began !. When will this end!. At the cost of the lives of our soldiers!. According to reports from social channels, our detachments did not even create defense centers, even ordinary trenches were hastily dug knee-deep! There were no minefields!. And most importantly, the banal lack of troops!. When the company holds the territory of the battalion!. And now, when the attack began, our top really crap!. Chaotic division of forces, reacted only on the 3rd day!. And then the reinforcements were transferred by 26 guards! And what now it has a political significance!. So congratulations you have done us to the fullest!.

[kravch67k]

Well, they can when they want !!! And the words are new, and the strategy is new !!!

[lets-true]

A decision was made to regroup the Russian troops stationed in the Balakleya and Izyum regions to build up efforts in the Donetsk direction

so regrouped that they abandoned the equipment and power supply, MO do you take people for idiots? It would be better to remain silent.

As indicated, over the past three days, an operation was carried out to "organize the transfer of the Izyum-Balakley group of troops to the territory of the DPR"

further where will the organized transfer be, to the Belgorod region?

[donavi49]

The version will even logically develop only if Slavyansk and Kramakha were discharged from the DPR. For Kupyansk (yes, the station on the other side is still holding out, but it will be gouged not even with 155 mm overseas caliber, but with Grads and 120 mm mortars) - Izyum is the main and most promising direction. Also the logistics. Here we cross out the green branch.

Pound in the forehead, as you can on the Seversk-Toretsk line until you are blue in the face. Moreover, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to maneuver forces, since the threat of an assault is only in the forehead in this scenario.

I generally keep quiet about people with Russian passports or an asset participating in a new life. In fact, they either sit in an apartment, with an understandable risk, or flee to Belgorod, where there is nothing and they have to start life anew.

[El Barto]

Who knows them, the plans of the command?
But it is really very similar to the withdrawal of troops.
It's not done in just 3 days. Judging by the emptiness in these areas, the withdrawal began 2 weeks ago.
What's the point? But who knows, you can't see it from here

[donavi49]

To quote the official MO, then in this:
To achieve the stated goals of the special military operations to liberate Donbass a decision was made to regroup the Russian troops stationed in the Balakleya and Izyum regions to build up efforts in the Donetsk direction

[Reindeer]

Hmm, the discontent among the broad masses is so significant that I, in fact, will not be surprised at the active manifestations of discontent ... For the leadership of the state, this (that is, what was called the NWO) in general also becomes something more; I hope they understand it.

[donavi49]

Judging by the captured officers (2 lieutenant colonels - one wounded, a major, 2 captains, one of a tank company, judging by his words) - there will soon be a new exchange of Azov.

[stels_07]

Here's something, but "controversial moments" at the front, the Russian Ministry of Defense knows how to correctly name

[EugenPin]

Apparently, all the money and brains went into this.

[RGB]

God! Is it really that our MO is holding us all together here for the finished?

[Aleksandr21]

Quote from RVA

God! Is it really that our MO is holding us all together here for the finished?

There are no more doubts. I would also understand if the Ministry of Defense admitted the failure in this direction and its mistakes ... they say the enemy broke through the line of defense, etc. we had to retreat to other positions, but this explanation is just the bottom. I don't even have the courage to tell the truth... it's a pity for the population of the Kharkiv region, who believed and trusted us.

I don’t even know if there is any point in conducting a CBO with such an approach, who will trust us after that? There are no censorship words.

[platoon]

I’m afraid that it’s not only MO that keeps us for the finished ...
I don’t call on anyone to shoot themselves, but they could at least come out and say - guys, we crap here ... we will try to improve.

[aslanxnumx]

The General Staff is unlikely to be able to protect the country in a conflict with the United States and NATO. And the Guarantor guarantees entry into paradise.

[IvanSviridov]

What for? Skeptics cannot be persuaded. And Optimists and so shove. Society does not influence anything.

[From Tomsk]

That is, they moved in the direction of Kharkov, the military died in the battle for each settlement, puppets were set up in local administrations, but then they simply remembered the goals of the special operation and decided to return to the Donetsk direction - of course.

[NSV]

Yeah ..... There’s nothing to add here !!! And we all smiled at Lucy A. !!! Yes, he didn’t even stand next to our term "regrouping" !!! ...

[g_ae]

Well, Lucy is just a colonel, not a general.

[platoon]

I would like to hear the opinion of the participants in the Gostomel landing ...

[Ryaruav]

what the hell, all the headquarters were destroyed, and they are advancing?

[kventinasd]

Because such destruction of enemy headquarters is only on paper by Konashenkov.

[leks]

Does anyone else doubt that the military-political leadership is completely incompetent? That is, the bulk of the country's population is already aware that the Ukrainians have broken the front and are conducting offensives, while ours are retreating from their positions. To us in the end, the MO says that everything is going according to plan. That is, we are simply being taken for idiots!
By the way, we noticed that in Konashenkov's speech there are no more words about all dill, but only about Donbass.
After all this, who will need us there. People believed the passports were received, supported by whoever and how they could, children were sent to Russia to children's camps. And now they are simply left to be torn to pieces by dill.

[El Barto]

It must be said that what Konashenkov said is very similar to the truth.
Judging by how events began and developed (for example, in Balakleya with the withdrawal of troops in advance), there really was a withdrawal of troops. Moreover, we managed to break away from the enemy and move away practically without his influence.
And the enemy’s “offensive” began when the withdrawal of troops was revealed.
Moreover, ours have already done this.

However, the meaning of this maneuver in the spirit of Barclay is not entirely clear to me personally.
Well, we'll see. We'll see.

[Gardamir]

The meaning of this maneuver in the spirit of Barclay is not entirely clear to me personally.

Just another gesture of goodwill.

[TatarinSSSR]

And this regrouping implies what will happen to the civilians who now remained in settlements that were “liberated” earlier and now abandoned to the enemy, who accepted the Russian army and government, collaborated with us, and hoped, as they were promised, that Russia had come to them forever ? And with those who, having grabbed documents and children, have now fled from the Ukrainian Armed Forces with entire families from the villages and cities abandoned by our forces? Is this, like Kanashenko, also a regrouping? Whatever the purpose and reason for the retreat, be it a cunning plan to lure people into cauldrons or the criminal stupidity of the commanders - but the consequences for the people who trusted us - is anyone interested in the General Staff?

[Victor Dubovitsky]

Quote: paul3390

It is possible without mobilization - if you do not engage in idiotic games like a special operation, and finally, after half a year, start fighting in earnest. HOW could the ukrovermacht be allowed to accumulate such forces in the most important direction? How could this be missed? And it’s very simple - for this it was just enough not to touch their communications. In particular - through the Dnieper. All Ukraine is cut by rivers and rivulets, and on each there are bridges. Which are intact to this day. The piece of iron, through which everything is supplied, also functions quite cheerfully. With such scenarios, one thing is surprising, why they didn’t screw us up earlier.

With a multiple of less manpower - SO not a damn war can be won. If the enemy moves quite calmly along his rear and has the ability to accumulate and supply large groups in any place convenient for him. And technical superiority - just allows this opportunity to destroy it. But - as we see, it is not destroyed. Therefore, we get an absolutely natural result. Further - it will only get worse, because now NATO will throw even more weapons - well, how, under such and such a victory? Moreover, there are no obstacles to the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on our part, and apparently there won’t be.

You can’t even destroy train stations, overloads, bridges, stations. There was information that one large unit needs to spend up to 50-80 Calibers. Expensive, even if everyone flies in and does the job. It's easier to destroy traction substations. Their coordinates are known. There are not many of them, if you count the main ones, from which the secondary ones feed. More than 1,5 thousand electric locomotives will be installed. The remaining 300 diesel locomotives will not cope with transportation throughout the country. They don't have a larger park.

Even if they are not completely destroyed, areas without electricity and control and signaling systems will still arise, destroying all traffic along the railway network.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Victor Dubovitsky

It's easier to destroy traction substations.

It is much easier to destroy the transformer substations of all generating power plants.
Without them, traction units won’t be needed, and even NATO won’t have enough mobile generators for Ukraine..

[Dmitry Karabanov]

I don’t understand very well why our Supreme Commander doesn’t sit in the General Staff, berating the generals, but opens a Ferris wheel? Moreover, a shameful fireworks display is being prepared in Muscovy - in honor of what!? The heroism and blood of our soldiers is only thanks to this, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not yet near Moscow. Although, there is a feeling that the enemy has been sitting in the Mother See for a long time. I can’t even imagine Stalin in 1942, traveling on holidays and admiring the “funny battles” - and not sitting at Headquarters! Now the people who started the war - yes, for a just cause - have completely withdrawn from the tasks of not only strategy, but even tactics! Well, is there really not a single Rokossovsky left in all of Russia - and among the generals there are only thieves and mediocrities left!? And again all hope is for the simple soldier in the trench...

[ammunition]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

does the Ferris wheel open?

This wheel.. just broke. That's what they say on the radio. And the visitors hovered at a high altitude. No luck today -)). Let humor brighten up dark days.-))

[Baron pardus]

Doesn't this remind you of NikALashka 2? Who, having received the news about Khodynka, continued the balls and celebrations? By the way, don’t remind me how NikALashka number 2, the cat killer, ended. I'm asking for a friend.

[Boris Sergeev]

Oh yes, MO! They already knew 3 days ago that they would “regroup”, i.e. they will scramble, and we were informed that “the eastern part of Balakleya has not been abandoned,” “reinforcements are being transferred by helicopter and are immediately entering the battle.” Poddubny said something about “Kupyansk’s determination to fight,” but there was no determination.
Well, the locals who believed in the RF Armed Forces were brought under the monastery - this, apparently, is a small matter for the RF Ministry of Defense. But how will you liberate Donbass if the threat to Slavyansk and Kramatorsk has been removed?

In a word, you are chattering, leaders of the Northern Military District.

[Femezov]

My opinion is that everything is pretty obvious. There is not an ounce of reason to panic.
The RF Armed Forces have two main tasks:
1) conduct the SVO with fewer but more professional forces
2) conserve manpower and not engage in direct major clashes (this is an operation, not a massacre). And see point 1 for quantity.

Now the Ukrainian Armed Forces have made a tactical mistake and will fall into a trap. Why?

1) they attracted large forces to a specific territory;
2) they discovered their locations in battles.

Then our troops, as it were, will retreat back and allow us to occupy some territories (it’s not for nothing that everyone is evacuated).
Well, then, with massive strikes, this entire mass of the Armed Forces will be leveled to the ground. And then they’ll go clean it up.

This will be the biggest failure, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the generals of the Ukrainian Armed Forces know this, but they don’t see a way out, since they are “pressed” by the need to curry favor with the West.

[FRoman1984]

The shameful retreat and cretinism of the General Staff is now called “regrouping.”

[Ryaruav]

according to the shithead's report, we defeated everyone, the stripers, like the Cossacks, are complete idiots, and the main idiot is you all know

[Sergey Drozdov]

Well, thank God - somehow it was immediately assumed that this was just a cunning plan...

[Vsevolod136]

An operation to regroup troops has been carried out”: a report from the Ministry of Defense on the progress of the SVO....

Yes, there is no time for voting on joining Russia, otherwise they will announce that “all the assigned tasks have been completed” and leave Kherson and Zaporozhye - they say, “you hang in there somehow” while the Banderlogs begin “filtration measures” ...

[Chronos]

The fact that they left the Kharkov region was probably correct from a military point of view. Yes, this is a difficult decision, but if you don’t have enough strength, you have to hold on to what you can really hold on to. And we can’t even call it a retreat under the onslaught of dill - the north of the region where there is no offensive is also surrendering. It’s bad that they didn’t organize the evacuation of residents. It’s bad that trust in power and command is lost. Now no one can be sure of anything.
And there is some kind of nasty feeling that the North Military District decided to fold when they did not enter Kyiv in parade formation. First, one gesture of goodwill with the withdrawal of troops, then Zmeiny, a grain deal with free navigation to Odessa, now the Kharkov region. And there the notorious line of February 23 looms. This is the only way to win over the Ukrainian Gauleiter in the Kremlin. And no alternate airfields will save anyone.
I'm becoming somewhat of a pessimist. I hope the authorities have an understanding of what to do. And that they, too, are sailing in the same boat with everyone else and they won’t be able to jump off.

[Boris Sergeev]

Yes, of course, the Kharkov region must be abandoned and the Ukrainian Armed Forces from there will not set foot in the Donbass. They just won't dare.

[Chronos]

A shorter front length is easier to maintain. Smaller territory is easier to defend.

[Santa Fe]

It’s bad that they didn’t organize the evacuation of residents.

Which ones? These ones?

I was greatly amazed by the abundance of such videos, I believed that they really were for us. And they... are zigging the Ukrainian Armed Forces

The North Military District decided to fold when they did not enter Kyiv in parade formation.

Only in this form did the SVO have a goal and meaning to carry it out

[Chronos]

Evacuation of those who sympathized. Everyone who wanted to should have a chance to leave. Our citizens were already there. Shariy wrote that in the territories we left behind there are already hundreds of missing people, who in reality ended up in dungeons. Here you can trust him.

[next322]

hmmm.....for three days the “general geniuses” in the General Staff thought.....and then they issued it.....it turns out it was a regrouping.....I can imagine the mood of the people in the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions after such a disgrace... ..what a referendum!

[Petr_Koldunov]

Now they will hang and cut. Everything is as Filatov promised... and not a single reptile from the “civilized Western media” will even mention the crimes of the Kyiv regime.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

Now they will hang and cut.

Most likely there will be Kupyansk (Bucha 2) with all the ensuing consequences and condemnation of the Russian Federation for all mortal sins. Crowds of delegations from all Russophobic countries will arrive.

[igorka357]

Unfortunately, what happened over the past three days is not a crime of the Kukuev regime!

[someone]

I would like to ask, before the start of this counter-offensive, where were the GRU of the RF Ministry of Defense, etc., the organizations about which such beautiful documentaries were shown on one star channel before the start of the Northern Military District. Where are Russian DRGs working deep behind enemy lines or is sabotage not our method?

[Crisp]

Quote: kventinasd

Quote: Victor Dubovitsky

It's easier to destroy traction substations.

It is much easier to destroy the transformer substations of all generating power plants.
Without them, traction units won’t be needed, and even NATO won’t have enough mobile generators for Ukraine..

It's more complicated. The main thing is not to make enemies of the entire population of Ukraine, left without electricity. It is important to paralyze the movement of goods, mainly military ones. There are many non-electrified roads in Ukraine where diesel locomotives operate. They will remain there (part of them, at least). One mainline electric locomotive pulls two diesel locomotives. Thus, the tax shortage is getting worse.

[Drotro]

The lion's share of Ukrainians hate Russians.
And with such a scammer, it’s scary to imagine what will happen next. You can't win with kindness and smiles. The strategy is wrong, but rigidity/cruelty will ensure widespread rejection of Russia. The situation is hopeless.
There are still many people in Ukraine who live by Soviet concepts of good and evil. Putin said that Russia will be here forever - so it will be so.

We were taught a long time ago to take everything at our word.
I really feel sorry for people who are so childishly naive.

[Rorshah]

Oh, those denazifiers with dreams of a Jewish conspiracy

[Ronrew]

This is unlikely, then the security forces will simply sweep away the country’s leadership. Yes, and they will also try to preserve the land corridor to Crimea, and so it should be expected that the territories of Ukraine controlled by us will be reduced.

[aglet]

Well, they explained to us, the dark ones, the situation in Balakleya, Izyum, Kupyansk, etc. It was not a breakthrough, not a counterattack, they simply regrouped the troops for an even more powerful defense of Donetsk. That’s what I immediately thought - regroup, defend Donetsk, but then alarmists came running - a breakthrough, there was no one to defend, okay, I immediately (three days had not passed), everything clarified. so calm down, citizens, Putin sees everything from the wheel. everything goes according to plan

[Knell wardenheart]

A decision was made to regroup the Russian troops stationed in the Balakleya and Izyum regions to build up efforts in the Donetsk direction

I re-read Konashenkov four times and listened to Konashenkov a couple of times - and I still didn’t understand a damn thing.
Logic tells me that the forces located “in the areas of Balakleya and Izyum” were, by the standards of Donbass, quite small forces (if they were significant, I don’t think that this enemy offensive would be so rapid). That is, logically, their transfer to the Donetsk direction will change little. Because in this direction the enemy has dug in very well. qualitatively. Small forces = small contributions.
But what happens next is even more interesting - after all, these insignificant forces are transferred to a generally stalemate direction, instead of being used to block a specific current breakthrough. Where the enemy has significant operational forces rushing forward and not yet entrenched.

That is, Mr. Konashenkov tells us that it is not good for us to strengthen our fist for a counterattack in the most pressing direction, let us better strengthen the most stagnant (at this moment!!!), although without a doubt, also important.

Maybe I don’t understand a damn thing about the art of war, explain to a stupid person - what is the meaning of such strange perturbations?

[Nephilim]

Maybe I don’t understand a damn thing about the art of war, explain to a stupid person - what is the meaning of such strange perturbations?

[El Barto]

The forces there were quite significant. Associations (plural). Only by the time the pursuit began (this is more correct than an offensive), the enemy was no longer there.
The last 3 days apparently saw the rearguard detachments withdrawn.
So they must show up somewhere. Will wait

[Yuri Turkul]

An interesting interpretation of our retreat in the Kharkov direction. I would never have thought of such a regrouping.

[Adagka]

How's the classic doing? This is such a shame!
Now it’s even too late for the dill to bomb the notorious adoption centers and infrastructure, because they and their Western curators realized that we can be defeated, the logistics have already been established, they will still be given money and weapons.
To complete the picture, all that remains is to wait for the leader to understand and forgive him.

[EvilCommunist]

Destroy Ukrainians with nuclear weapons as a warning to others

[Vadmir]

Sometimes it's better to chew rather than talk.

[T.A.V.]

Notable slap though! And we laughed at them.

[Tagan]

Quote: Santa Fe

I was greatly amazed by the abundance of such videos, I believed that they really were for us. And they... are zigging the Ukrainian Armed Forces

With both hands, or what?

[Wladimir134]

It’s just... there are no words for Kanashenkov. One cunning plan, I feel sorry for the locals who believed us. Ukrainians are already coming with lists and the most important thing is that no one will answer for this

[g_ae]

And why do ukrov DRGs roam freely wherever they want? Why do you hear about Russian DRGs behind Ukrainian lines? Or are they like a gopher? So the results are not visible then.

[alexey sidykin]

“Today is a holiday for the girls, today there will be dancing, and the girls’ cheeks are burning with a blush...”

[runway-1]

That Sivkov (albeit to a lesser extent), that Barants, that Khodarenok should be perceived more as propagandists than experts...

[RaccoonSnake]

War, even if you call it “SVO” 100 times, remains a war and an extremely tough test to test any state. Judging by V.V. Putin in Moscow today, he no longer influences anything and we have had a quiet revolution, or the leadership of the country has completely lost touch with reality.

[Ronrew]

Most likely - the latter.

[Baron pardus]

There is an idea how to solve ALL of Russia’s problems at the same time: Declare war on China, and immediately surrender, join China as a Russian-speaking Autonomy. And everything will be a bundle. And corruption will disappear, and modern technologies will appear, and engines, and electronics, and AFAR radars, and crime, especially diasporas from “small oppressed but very proud and original peoples” will be quickly put an end to, and even electricity and sewerage will be provided to all villages and villages The funny thing is that if this happens, half of the American and European politicians will be knocked with their heads against the wall.

[Marson35]

And a few days earlier, during an exercise, they celebrated some kind of victory... Our military and political leadership is leading us somewhere in the wrong direction... This is becoming more and more obvious.

[Oleg Lomaev]

Can anyone answer my layman's question? Were there really no troops along the entire stretch from Kupyansk to Izyum? This is the impression you get when you read that the battle is being fought by anyone, but not the regular troops of the Russian Federation. Why were our troops not there when the breakthrough happened?

[Sergey.]

I don’t understand the actions of our command when they repulsed the offensive near Kherson, so they should have immediately seized the initiative, pulled up reserves and went on the offensive, then maybe they wouldn’t have had time for a new offensive near Kharkov. And do not carry out rotation, but constantly build up strength until the operation is completely completed.

[stels_07]

What excuses can the national team players now use?

[Ronrew]

The funny thing is that most likely this is exactly what will happen.

[Ryazan87]

Probably the next regrouping will take place in Kherson.

[Boris Sergeev]

In Kherson, cafes are already playing the UPA anthem. So, just in case...

[Down]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

I don’t understand very well why our Supreme Commander doesn’t sit in the General Staff, berating the generals, but opens a Ferris wheel? Moreover, a shameful fireworks display is being prepared in Muscovy - in honor of what,

Because all the revolutions and riots succeeded only in the capitals, as a result, two cities need to be fed, and the rest will not go anywhere, a classic of the genre, this happened during the union, which surprises you.

[Down]

Quote: Raccoon

War, even if you call it “SVO” 100 times, remains a war and an extremely tough test to test any state. Judging by V.V. Putin in Moscow today, he no longer influences anything and we have had a quiet revolution, or the leadership of the country has completely lost touch with reality.

Any ruler who has been in power for many years loses contact with the people, this is an axiom, which is why they are re-elected, for example, after two terms.

[Astra55]

This seems to be some kind of abzd.
It’s better not to turn on the TV, there vile Ukrainians are hitting bridges, cities, towns, civilians are dying in Donetsk..., the West is sending another batch of weapons.
I would like to ask: what did you think? Sorry, they are fighting.
And we are all such D'Artagnans in white gloves. So they got excited about it.
How will all the TV channels explain all this to the people now, that is the question. After all, 2024 is just around the corner, we need 146% “For” the President.
And they will explain it, pour it into your ears. Which is how it was intended. That "Minsk-3" is exactly what it all began for...
Just think that Donetsk is being shelled...

PS. VVP congratulated the King of England on his accession to the throne!
And you are all at war, war with the West...

[Seraphimamur]

I agree with you. Putin said: “If a fight is inevitable, you need to strike first.” This is true, but if you get into a fight, fight. Where are the blows to the decision-making centers? Why is Kyiv not in ruins? Why is the railway still operating in Ukraine? Why are they bringing weapons?

[Radical]

Quote: dmi.pris

They couldn’t come up with a digestible text in any way. It would be better if they honestly admitted. As a result of attacks by numerically superior forces, the enemy drove us out of settlements.

Give it up! Moon-Face cannot be outplayed; the whole world is afraid of him. He said that he would cut off gas to everyone and would not supply coal and fuel oil. Now I'm all trembling...

[Azis]

No longer remembering about “mirror” and “asymmetrical” responses, about “red lines” and “attacks on decision-making centers”, after such a “regrouping” WHO IN THE WORLD will trust, conduct dialogue, build at least some kind of allied relations with Russia , as with any significant power? Mat at the entrance to the cafeteria at the gas station. The people will quietly dry off. What can be done, given that the number of purely internal and “people’s” Ministry of Internal Affairs and FSVNG is almost 5 times greater than the number of ground forces of the Ministry of Defense?