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Vitaly Zhuravlev: Russia in the conditions of aggravation of the military-political situation in the world

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Vitaly Zhuravlev: Russia in the conditions of aggravation of the military-political situation in the worldDue to the diversity of the processes taking place in the world, it is difficult to assert with complete confidence that you have a full understanding of the present and a clear appearance of the future political stories. However, you can strive to establish a causal relationship of the events and on this basis to predict future events. In this regard, we will try to consider a possible future international conflict, that is, a direct or indirect clash of interests of two or several parties (states, groups of states, nations, political movements) on the basis of the existing contradictions between them. Unresolved contradictions lead to an increase in the struggle between the parties to the conflict before the international political crisis, which can lead to the use of military force, including the level of armed struggle with the use of modern weapons, the involvement of allies and major world powers, the expansion of the territory of the conflict.

Where are these contradictions visible? The United States today is the only truly world power capable of intervening in events anywhere in the world. The US military budget today exceeds the total military budget: the rest of NATO, the Russian Federation and China. Today, US dollars account for more than 60 percent of all foreign exchange reserves in the world. The main shareholders of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York - the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers - form a sort of "small Politburo" that makes fateful decisions in the field of world politics, economics, and finance. According to Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve System (FRS) of the United States at a conference of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund in Tokyo, stimulating the US economy helps the growth of other countries. Quantitative easing, that is, printing the dollar, not only helps to restore the US economy by stimulating demand, but also contributes to the recovery of the global economy as a whole, he noted.

However, in real life after the crisis 2008-2010. there has been a significant change in the situation. A number of states (Russia and China; China and Japan; India and Japan; and others) declared their intention to abandon the use of the US dollar in their calculations when conducting mutual settlements. In general, statistical analysis shows that socio-economic development centers are increasingly moving from Europe and North America to countries in the Asia-Pacific region. In the foreseeable future, the advancing dynamics of China and India will continue. As a result, the level of American supremacy will decline. The world economy is entering a new phase of crisis, and American hopes for a weakening of the main competitor of the United States, China, are becoming less and less realistic. At the same time, the US leadership, US presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are talking about it, is trying to maintain world political leadership in the conditions of the economic crisis. Note that the National Armory Association of the United States officially announced its support for the candidacy of Romney for the presidency, and he commented that he was proud of it.

So, Washington has the ambitions of world leadership, the powerful influence of the military industrial complex, a huge army and serious socio-economic and financial problems. By the way, the United States is a country that does not have gold resources. The global financial crisis of 2008 and the subsequent recession cost her a total of at least 12,8 trillion dollars. The US budget deficit in the 2012 fiscal year was 1,1 trillion dollars, i.e. more than a trillion dollars for the fourth year in a row. It is no longer possible to get out of this crisis format only by printing dollars: a radical change in the existing world system is necessary. In such conditions, internal social factors are primary in the foreign policy of the state, and not the general system of established international relations.

Geo-economic and geo-financial power dictates its own rules of the game to the world, creating a kind of legislative basis for neoliberal integration. As you know, the theoretical basis of neoliberalism was in many respects the work "The End of History" by Francis Fukuyama. (1989 g.). In it, Fukuyama substantiates the future of the world system as Western-style liberal capitalism. Liberal institutions, such as the rule of law, representative democracy, free media and a market economy, are of universal importance. According to Fukuyama, what we are probably witnessing is not just the end of the Cold War or the end of any period of post-war history, but the end of history as such: that is, the end of the ideological evolution of humanity and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human of the board. American "realists" proclaim unipolarity and American hegemony in the world as the best form of world order. In their opinion, states with significant economic and power potential should strive to maximize power, not stability and security. International diplomacy is moving to the level of technical registration of the real economic and political division of the world.

The financial and economic crisis that began in 2008 contributed to the re-emergence of the theme of creating a world government that will manage the economy, politics, resources, environment, finance, etc. on a planetary scale. The world society will be a hierarchical structure, in essence, a world state where the nation states will lose their value, becoming territorial entities, and any centrifugal tendencies on their part will be immediately stopped. The USA will become a model of a world state, with the propaganda of American democracy and lifestyle as a model for democracy all over the world.

This explains the facts that on the eve of the presidential elections in the United States military theme has become particularly relevant. As the English sociologist Hadley Bull noted at one time, war is a violent act that is carried out on behalf of a political association, is of a mandative and official nature, and is directed against another political association. At present, according to experts, serious conflicts are likely, primarily in the Greater Middle East: from Morocco to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

For example, in 2011, by announcing plans to withdraw troops from Afghanistan by the end of 2014, the US administration announced that it would maintain a military presence in the country at the level of 3-4 of thousands of military personnel, as well as advisers. According to media reports, now we can talk at the 25 negotiations with thousands of servicemen remaining in Afghanistan after 2014 and several thousand civilian instructors. Currently, up to 70 thousands of US troops are deployed in Afghanistan.

The situation is especially serious around the notorious Iranian nuclear program. And if the EU member states are focusing on economic sanctions packages against Tehran’s nuclear program and allow Iran to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, the United States and Israel are much more radical. Barack Obama gave a firm guarantee to Israel that Tehran would not receive nuclear weapons under any circumstances. M. Romney declares that, if elected, the US will attack Iran. Information appears in the media that Israel plans to attack Iran before the US elections on November 6 and this will unleash a large-scale war.

The Iranian military is talking about the possibility of a preemptive strike if Tehran is absolutely sure of Israel’s intention to launch a war. Iran is also ready to attack US military bases throughout the region and block the strategically important Strait of Hormuz, which transports up to 40% of all world oil.

According to other experts, the scenario that the first to strike Israel is doubtful. They suggest that Iran will be involved in the conflict as a result of provocations as its initiator. The options are the preparation of special operations at sea with the participation of ships belonging to allegedly Iranians, who may attack the ships of the United States, Israel and Saudi Arabia or a land operation under the guise of an armed uprising of the internal opposition in Iran. It is in this connection that the US State Department excluded the Iranian opposition group Mojaheddin-e Khalk (Organization of People’s Mujahideen of Iran) from the list of terrorist organizations.

What are the possible actions of Russia in the conditions of aggravation of the international military-political situation, first of all, in the Near and Middle East?

According to the documents defining the Russian foreign policy (Concept of the foreign policy of the Russian Federation; Concept of the national security of the Russian Federation; Military doctrine of the Russian Federation; Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of 7 in May 2012 N N 605 "On measures to implement the foreign policy of the Russian Federation", etc.) The Federation should ensure its national interests on the basis of the principles of pragmatism, openness and multi-vector in the conditions of the formation of a new polycentric system of international relations. There is no need to defend the political and diplomatic settlement of regional conflicts on the basis of collective actions of the international community by involving all interested parties in the negotiations. It is necessary to strengthen the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) (Armenia, Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan), its rapid response mechanisms to contemporary challenges and threats and its peacekeeping potential, and improve foreign policy coordination within this organization.

20 December 2011 in Moscow signed a Protocol on the deployment of military infrastructure in the territories of the CSTO member states, according to which the parties decide on the deployment on their territories of groups of troops (forces), military infrastructure of non-member states, after urgent consultations (coordination) with other parties and in the absence of their official objections.

Thus, the CSTO member state makes the appropriate decision, for example, on the deployment of NATO military bases in its territory, only if there is no objection from the other CSTO members, by de facto consensus. The protocol is an important document ensuring coordination of states within the CSTO and their consolidated position in the face of new challenges and threats to regional security.

On the other hand, the Protocol formally assumes, under the stipulated conditions, the existence of the most hypothetical possibility of deploying troops and military bases of third countries on the territory of the CSTO member states. The other day the Protocol was submitted for ratification to the State Duma.

However, the main foreign policy direction of Russia should certainly be the prevention of the military scenario of the development of events near its southern borders. It is necessary to do everything possible to normalize relations between Iran and Israel and prevent NATO intervention in Syria. In this regard, the proposal of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan to Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to establish a committee to resolve the situation in Syria, which may include Iran, Turkey, Egypt or Iran, Turkey and Russia, deserves attention. Russia itself should promote such initiatives.
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  1. bask
    bask 19 October 2012 07: 00
    +7
    Now a lot of things in foreign and domestic policy depend on GDP. At least he knows how to really slow down corruption, consolidate society .national idea, .Reduce the gap between the rich and poor. Then, in fact, ONE COUNTRY, hell (amers)) )) is not scary ,,, It's up to the president.!
    1. crazyrom
      crazyrom 19 October 2012 07: 09
      +5
      Our president - what is needed, is by far the most powerful politician. While we are on an excellent course, we do not have time to rejoice at one news and there are already the following. If Fedorov is allowed to push the law on the Central Bank, then we will specifically break the needle of Koshchei, after that it will not be long before the victory.
      1. ShturmKGB
        ShturmKGB 19 October 2012 10: 48
        +4
        History proves that almost always a conflict, conceived as regulated, gets out of control, and the consequences are always sad ...
        1. Rezun
          Rezun 19 October 2012 12: 39
          +1
          Back in 89, I tried to explain this to my subordinates. Do not take me as a "clicker", but I predicted something similar in 2000. Putin, damn it, "interfered."
    2. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 19 October 2012 18: 01
      -3
      The GDP has been "slowing down corruption" for 12 years already, so it’s time for mine to think about its effectiveness even for such optimists as you.
      By the way, to the words of Kresirum, "If Fedorov is allowed to push through the law on the Central Bank," I want to answer, but who actually does not allow this law to be dragged through? To approve the GDPR - just put a signature, and the Duma - it is enough to order United Russia to vote "For" and everything is ready, as has been done more than once. Look at the WTO, how quickly everyone slapped and give a fuck for the people or against, no delays!
      If someone does not understand, then we have a systemic crisis in our country, which means that the system cannot heal itself, the deputies who bought the mandate from the heads of the Duma parties will not defend the interests of the country, they need to beat back the loot!
    3. starshina78
      starshina78 19 October 2012 20: 30
      +1
      Alas, the President of Russia is not free to make independent decisions. Most will say that this is nonsense. No - this is not nonsense, but a statement of fact. He is allowed only as much as his sponsors can allow. Nobody will chop the branch, sitting on which brings billions in transactions, and not in the pocket of the state, but in the pockets of international corporations and oligarchs. So the President of the United States depends on the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, so ours depends on Russian similar persons. Who gives money for the election, who are the main taxpayers, thereby allowing for a social policy. If there is no money, then unfulfilled promises of GDP can lead to mass rallies, excitement (and no one will announce that this is the opposition when millions of doctors, teachers, pensioners take to the streets). And Putin is not a fool. he is well aware that his too tough stance and confrontation can lead to the loss of government money stored and working for the US economy.
  2. crazyrom
    crazyrom 19 October 2012 07: 03
    +1
    The influence of the Americans is falling very quickly, they do not even control "their own" Iraq, they buy our weapons and stand up for Syria. And Russia's influence is growing every day, we are deploying bases, introducing new weapons and even nuclear submarines. Let's hope that when everything explodes, "we have more than them."
    1. Uncle Serozha
      Uncle Serozha 19 October 2012 07: 50
      +3
      Quote: crazyrom
      Let's hope that when everything explodes, "we have more than them."

      They are not going to enter into armed conflict with Russia. They are not crazy. No, they will profess the same tactics as against the USSR. Reduce the revenue side of our budget and train personnel ready to lead the discontented. A new generation of Gaidar who will finish the country.

      The problem is that, as a supplier of energy resources to Europe, Russia may well live happily and slowly restore its industry. They don’t want this. Europe also wants to diversify energy sources and their transportation routes. To do this, change the ruling regime in Iran and launch a pipeline from it to Europe. In this situation, Russia is losing a significant part of its influence, while Turkey and Azerbaijan are gaining it on the contrary. We need to prevent this from happening.

      We should both support Syria and Iran and strengthen our influence in the Caucasus. Smoldering ethnic conflicts, where Russia can intervene as an "independent arbiter", can become instruments of this influence. And that's why we really need Georgia - we don't have a common border with Armenia. In general, our Foreign Ministry has something to work on. But in order for the Foreign Ministry to have a weighty argument in reserve, the Defense Ministry and the military-industrial complex must work. Then the local Caucasian princes will calmly eat ties, and we will supply gas to Europe. There is no alternative. smile
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 October 2012 08: 08
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
        Reduce the revenue side of our budget

        And how will they reduce the budget revenues, if they fuck it over Iran, then oil will soar in price to the ceiling, the only way to unleash a large warrior at our borders, then we will spend extra on the army.
        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
        They are not crazy.

        But about this, given what they do in the world, they’re insane !!!
        1. arhipelag
          arhipelag 19 October 2012 08: 48
          +5
          And how will they reduce the budget revenues, if fucking in Iran, the price of oil will skyrocket


          Yes, prices will soar, but only for a short period of time, and then everything will be as Uncle Seryozha wrote
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 19 October 2012 09: 01
            +1
            Quote: arhipelag

            Yes, prices will soar, but only for a short period of time, and then everything will be as Uncle Seryozha wrote

            Will not be! With the destruction of the entire oil infrastructure of the Persian Gulf as a result of a large-scale warrior, it will not be possible to restore all this in a short period of time; the closest, if it is set on fire, will burn for years, which will lead to a very large oil shortage in the world and it will not be possible to replenish it.
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 19 October 2012 10: 43
              0
              Will not be! With the destruction of the entire oil infrastructure of the Persian Gulf as a result of large-scale warriors, it will not be possible to restore all this in a short period of time.

              Qatar with the Saudis and the UAE will be able to compensate by increasing oil production, provided that the Americans protect them to the last.
              1. alexng
                alexng 19 October 2012 11: 31
                +1
                Yes, the countries of the "victim" will hit them in the first place and there will be no living space left.
            2. arhipelag
              arhipelag 19 October 2012 11: 10
              0
              For you, apparently the Future (with a capital letter) is the period of the future tense for a period of 2-3 years ???
            3. Uncle Serozha
              Uncle Serozha 19 October 2012 12: 21
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              With the destruction of the entire oil infrastructure of the Persian Gulf as a result of large-scale warriors, it will not be possible to restore all this in a short period of time.

              No. In the event of an attack on Iran, there will be no large-scale war. Like the destruction of infrastructure. As there was neither one nor the other as a result of military operations in Iraq and Libya. Everything works great.

              Do I understand correctly that you are a supporter of the military operation against Iran? Since it is beneficial to Russia in your words?
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 19 October 2012 12: 35
                -1
                Quote: Uncle Seryozha

                No. In the event of an attack on Iran, there will be no large-scale war. Like the destruction of infrastructure.

                Do you know this for sure or so, assumption.?
                Quote: Uncle Seryozha
                As there was neither one nor the other as a result of military operations in Iraq and Libya.

                Iraq was under sanctions and there wasn’t much to fight there. Libya didn’t have air defense as such. Of course, Iran didn’t have any air defense, but there are a lot of offensive and defensive weapons, plus the landscape is very different from Iraq and Libya. And besides fanatics in Iran, teeth can be broken about them.
                Quote: Uncle Seryozha

                I understand correctly that you are a supporter of the military operation against Iran

                No, it’s not right, a blow to Iran will be a disaster about this I have said more than once, and Russia and China will not be able to stay away, the whole region will blaze !!!
                Quote: Uncle Seryozha
                Since it is beneficial to Russia in your words?

                I did not talk about the benefits, I talked about oil prices, the fact that they jump up, about the profit on the blood is not for me.
                1. Uncle Serozha
                  Uncle Serozha 19 October 2012 12: 56
                  +1
                  Well, in general, judging by the minus put to me, your attitude is understandable ... smile

                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Iraq was under sanctions and there wasn’t much to fight there. Libya didn’t have air defense as such. Of course, Iran didn’t have any air defense, but there are a lot of offensive and defensive weapons, plus the landscape is very different from Iraq and Libya. And besides fanatics in Iran, teeth can be broken about them.

                  They all said the same thing about Iraq and Libya. The result is known ...

                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  I did not talk about the benefits, I talked about oil prices, the fact that they jump up, about the profit on the blood is not for me.

                  After the establishment of American dominance in the region, oil prices will fallthat a colleague rightly noted arhipelag higher. But that's not the point. I wrote that with a regime change in Iran, an alternative way of supplying energy to Europe is possible. But this is a huge economic loss for Russia. You somehow ignored it ... smile
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 19 October 2012 13: 25
                    -1
                    Quote: Uncle Seryozha

                    They all said the same thing about Iraq and Libya. The result is known ...

                    You can see the potential of Libya, Iraq and Iran. Iran is several times more efficient otherwise it would have been wiped off for a long time. And Irna’s rocket armament is much higher and even amers recognize this.
                    Quote: Uncle Seryozha
                    After American dominance in the region is established, oil prices will fall,

                    There will be no amers, there will be China, like why I already brought. The amers have NO forces on the ground operation !!!
                    Quote: Uncle Seryozha
                    I wrote that with a regime change in Iran, an alternative way of supplying energy to Europe is possible

                    Do not fantasize, there will be no alternative deliveries to Europe. Nabucco is the one on paper, but no one will be putting money into the region that is flaming with fanatics. There are no economic losses with a warrior and you must understand this, dear hi
                    1. ATATA
                      ATATA 19 October 2012 14: 41
                      +2
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      You can see the potential of Libya, Iraq and Iran

                      Just the potential of Iraq and Iran is very easy to compare, they fought for 10 years and won 5km2 from each other.
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 19 October 2012 15: 29
                        +1
                        Quote: ATATA
                        Just the potential of Iraq and Iran is very easy to compare, they fought for 10 years and won 5km2 from each other

                        And forgive Hussein at the time who helped with weapons, but as far as I remember, there were sanctions over Iran from the United States. Yes, and forgive how many years have passed since that time, Iran has seriously replenished its stocks of "cartridges"
                      2. Phase
                        Phase 19 October 2012 16: 11
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        And forgive Hussein at the time who helped with weapons, but as far as I remember, there were sanctions over Iran from the United States. Yes, and forgive how many years have passed since that time, Iran has seriously replenished its stocks of "cartridges"

                        Since it is just in today's Iran that ammo is weak if compared with Saddam. According to the Air Force, there’s a complete PPC - how many modern fighters does Iran have?
                      3. Phase
                        Phase 19 October 2012 15: 59
                        -1
                        Quote: ATATA
                        Just the potential of Iraq and Iran is very easy to compare, they fought for 10 years and won 5km2 from each other.

                        +1 So in the event of a strike on Iran, there will be no global war in the region. But American influence there will be strengthened and gas transportation routes to Europe will appear.
                    2. Phase
                      Phase 19 October 2012 16: 05
                      -1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Do not fantasize, there will be no alternative supplies to Europe. Nabucco and the one on paper

                      So nabucco because on paper because there is nothing to fill it with. And in the case of Iran’s democratization, it will be what. They write about this to you.
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      and nobody will be putting money into a region burning with fanatics.

                      This is precisely why they want to "de-democratize" Iran and turn it into a tame state. And it is only beneficial to the United States and Turkey with the EEC.
                      And what is "blazing fanatics"? What about the Russian language? Strange, the name seems to be Russian.
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Economic losses with a warrior cannot be avoided and you must understand this, dear

                      Only the benefits for the USA, Fertility and the EEC cover all losses. That is the point.
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 19 October 2012 17: 36
                        0
                        Quote: Phase
                        And in the case of Iran’s democratization, it will be what. They write about this to you

                        You first democratize him and then build plans.
                        Quote: Phase
                        And it is only profitable for the United States and Turkey with the EEC.
                        And what is "blazing fanatics"? What about the Russian language? Strange, the name seems to be Russian.
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov

                        It’s very profitable to see you are smarter than all the experts who say that the neighbor is blazing. And my name is normal, if the fanatics run and shoot, then it’s about a blazing region.
                        Quote: Phase

                        Only the benefits for the USA, Fertility and the EEC cover all losses.

                        Well, that is probably what politicians in the US think just like that, only to look at the possible consequences very weakly.
                      2. Phase
                        Phase 19 October 2012 17: 46
                        -3
                        Oh how nervous we are! Oh, how they messed up! smile Well, just kind of expensive!
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        You first democratize him and then build plans.

                        So it's not us. It is the United States who wants to democratize it. And our task is to prevent them from doing this. To new pipelines from there did not go. wink Because we don’t need anyone to push gas to Europe besides us.
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        It is very profitable, you see smarter than all experts who say that the whole neighbor will blaze.

                        Yah! So experts - they always write it. And the US does not really pay attention to them. And something hasn’t flared up globally yet.
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        If fanatics run and shoot, then we are talking about a blazing region.

                        Blazing fanatics???? (quote you verbatim)

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Well, that is probably what politicians in the US think just like that, only to look at the possible consequences very weakly.

                        No, not weak. These consequences just suit them. But we are not. We need Russia to supply gas to Europe. And Turkey - remained just a cheap resort for the Russians.
                        So that! smile
                      3. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 19 October 2012 17: 55
                        +2
                        Quote: Phase
                        Oh how nervous we are! Oh, how they messed up!

                        Phase, but I’m nervous, put a bunch of minuses to me, I returned them, I can see who is putting me. hi
                        Quote: Phase
                        This is the USA they want to democratize

                        They want a lot of things, but far from everything turns out.
                        Quote: Phase
                        . And our task is to prevent them from doing this. So that new pipelines do not go from there

                        This is the tenth case, but the fact that as a result of the warriors the children die is the first. We will figure out how to deal with pipes.
                        Quote: Phase
                        Yah! So experts - they always write it

                        Yes, now not only experts, but the amers themselves speak of the unpredictability of the strike on Iran, and Putin spoke of the possibility of spreading the conflict to the whole neighbor, but it’s difficult to call him a smart person!
                        Quote: Phase

                        Blazing fanatics ??

                        I called them that, what problems, you can call them shooting garbage.
                        Quote: Phase
                        We need Russia to supply gas to Europe

                        you forget about the gas, nobody will post it there, there are a lot of plans, but these are just plans. Amers will manage and everything will end with a grand military racket.
                      4. Phase
                        Phase 19 October 2012 18: 08
                        -1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Phase, but I'm nervous, put a bunch of minuses to me, I returned them, I can see who puts me

                        No, it's exactly the opposite. You started to minus it, and I returned. What are you nervous about? smile

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        This is the tenth case, but the fact that as a result of the warriors the children die is the first. We will figure out how to deal with pipes.

                        So that people do not die, I just said that the United States and Turkey must be resisted. So that they do not climb Iran to democratize. Do not you read what I write?

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Yes, now not only experts, but the amers themselves speak of the unpredictability of the strike on Iran, and Putin spoke of the possibility of spreading the conflict to the whole neighbor, but it’s difficult to call him a smart person!

                        Before every armed aggression, they write it. And before each armed aggression, we warn of the possibility of proliferation. But this does not stop them.
                        And that is why we must defend Iran. To no new pipelines to Europe.
                        We pump gas and produce weapons, and the Turks sweep the floors in hotels. International division of labor. And everything is quiet and calm. smile

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        I called them that, what problems, you can call them shooting garbage.

                        Their yes. But you called the region blazing fanatics. How's that? smile
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        you forget about gas, nobody will post it there, there are many plans, but these are only plans.

                        So we must make sure that these plans remain plans only. And for this - to support Iran and Syria and always have a reason for action in the Caucasus. Did I write about this? smile
                      5. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 19 October 2012 18: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: Phase

                        No, it's exactly the opposite. You started to minus it, and I returned. What are you nervous about?

                        Listen dear, but you are also a liar, you went over the topics and put me downs wherever you could, I still did not know you
                        Quote: Phase

                        Against
                        Alexander Romanov

                        So I put you a minus and it is displayed, here you put me
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov

                        Against
                        Phase
                        Odessa

                        Here I’ve been given a plus by Odessa, and you slapped me a minus, your minuses to me a lantern, you won’t be able to affect my rating, but you have seriously lost and even deceive me by looking into my eyes.
                        Quote: Phase
                        Do not you read what I write?

                        I read, you are interested in gas, pipes and profit! I am the life of people.
                        Quote: Phase
                        And that is why we must defend Iran. To no new pipelines to Europe.

                        And I thought that there would be no warriors and people would not die, but all the pipes are of interest to you, which will also not be.
                        Quote: Phase
                        But you called the region blazing fanatics. What is it like?

                        And that in the region there are few fanatics screaming allah akbar or hurt you, as I called them, I somehow do not care.
                        Quote: Phase
                        And for this - to support Iran and Syria and always have a reason for action in the Caucasus. Did I write about this?

                        It’s about gas and pipes that you write about profit. It’s not clear how you plan to send the military or the fighters we ourselves lack?
                      6. Phase
                        Phase 19 October 2012 18: 44
                        +1

                        But I don’t care about the rating. :) And at the same time your influence on him.
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        I read, you are interested in gas, pipes and profit! I am the life of people.

                        So that people do not die, we need to resist the US in their desire to democratize Iran. Do you even read what I write? smile
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        And that in the region there are few fanatics screaming allah akbar or hurt you, as I called them, I somehow do not care.

                        Yes, there are a lot of fanatics. Only here is the region "fanatics blaze"(I am quoting you verbatim) it cannot. At least in Russian. wink
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        It’s about gas and pipes that you write about profit. It’s not clear how you plan to send the military or the fighters we ourselves lack?

                        And how did they act in 2008? And everything was enough for everyone. It didn’t seem exactly enough. smile
                      7. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 19 October 2012 18: 55
                        +1
                        Quote: Phase
                        And how did they act in 2008? And everything was enough for everyone. It seemed a little small

                        Well, since Georgians were cheated on cuffs, then we’re all the more amer, like two fingers on asphalt. There’s nothing to talk about anymore, all the best to you, goodbye hi
                      8. Phase
                        Phase 19 October 2012 19: 01
                        +2
                        Oh, how dashing you cleared my message!
                        Just in case, I’m duplicating my request: I can’t agree to your offer plus I can’t. Do not stain me with your pluses. I am poor but proud.
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Here I’ve got a plus Odessa girl

                        Glad for her. But why are you firing your own? smile
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Well, since Georgians were cheated on cuffs, then we’re all the more amer, like two fingers on asphalt. There’s nothing to talk about anymore, all the best to you, goodbye

                        And I, in my opinion, did not write about the war with amers. I still have the impression that you are responding without reading. I wrote that we should support Iran and Syria and stand firm in the Caucasus.
                        You are absolutely right: the Georgians are a bit pushed. So, to achieve a lasting peace in the region, it’s not a pity to move someone else. Who thinks that you can do things bypassing Russia. So understandable? smile
                      9. Fox 070
                        Fox 070 19 October 2012 19: 21
                        +1
                        Quote: Phase
                        Oh, how dashing you cleared my message!

                        It still worked. I assure you that they will now delete all comments, like yesterday on the "Stalin and" children "thread.
                      10. Fox 070
                        Fox 070 19 October 2012 19: 08
                        +2
                        Quote: Phase
                        Don't dirty me with your pluses. They tell me, as they say in well-known circles, "in the bastard."

                        Bravo! good Apparently the administrative resource did not work today. I hope that I accept the pluses and rating increase as a token of appreciation. Regards, Felix. drinks
                      11. Phase
                        Phase 19 October 2012 19: 18
                        +3
                        Felix, thanks of course! And although I really don't care about the rating, thanks for the good words. smile
                      12. Fox 070
                        Fox 070 19 October 2012 19: 24
                        +3
                        Quote: Phase
                        I really don’t care,

                        good Bad is the soldier who does not dream of becoming a general drinks
                      13. Uncle Serozha
                        Uncle Serozha 20 October 2012 02: 12
                        +1
                        Quote: Fox 070
                        Bad is the soldier who does not dream of becoming a general

                        +1
                      14. Uncle Serozha
                        Uncle Serozha 20 October 2012 02: 10
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Phase, but I’m nervous, put a bunch of minuses to me, I returned them, I can see who is putting me.

                        Oops! That is, you use moderator powers to settle personal accounts ??? You put a minus to a person not for the post itself, but for the attitude towards you ???? What a frankness!
                        Charming, charming .... love

                        Quote: Phase
                        Felix, thanks of course! And although I really don't care about the rating, thanks for the good words.

                        Although you do not care about the ratings, but keep it from me! smile
                        By the way, I’m interested in your nickname. Sorry for the immodest question: is it related to your VUS? Vague doubts torment me ... smile
                      15. With
                        With 20 October 2012 02: 17
                        +2
                        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
                        Oops! That is, you use moderator powers to settle personal accounts ??? You put a minus to a person not for the post itself, but for the attitude towards you ???? How lovely!

                        But this is a complete lie !!!
                        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
                        Although you do not care about the ratings, but keep it from me!

                        What to hold ??? --want it here !!!))))

                        Unless of course the hand does not flinch ?????)))

                      16. Uncle Serozha
                        Uncle Serozha 20 October 2012 02: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Met
                        What to hold ??? --want it here !!!))))
                        Unless of course the hand does not flinch ?????)))

                        Will not flinch. But this is too much. Excessive ammunition consumption ..
                        For a declassed element - "a single shot from the Nagant revolver into the base of the occipital bone" (NKVD USSR) wink

                        So Phase - is that you?
                      17. With
                        With 20 October 2012 02: 53
                        +1
                        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
                        So Phase - is that you?

                        This is for sure YA -You set a photo ???

                        The word I miss does not refer specifically to you (so that you are not offended), but to the site and to all the guys on this site, well, to women - of course [med
                        ia = http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = iqN5U2q_R_4] y !!!
                        VADIM !!! hi
                        [img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqN5U2q_R_4 [/ img]
                      18. With
                        With 20 October 2012 03: 02
                        0
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqN5U2q_R_4

                        There just a video was not visible !!!

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqFjmJl-69g&feature=related
        2. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 19 October 2012 18: 19
          +3
          "But about this, considering what they are doing in the world, they are just insane !!!" unlike us, they do not destroy their army, industry, agriculture and factories. And who, then, are we if they are insane?
          http://demotivation.me/3uaryq9u4ms2pic.html
          and they also prevent Iraqis from putting their soldiers in jail
          http://www.nr2.ru/moskow/408912.html
          1. Phase
            Phase 19 October 2012 18: 21
            +4
            Quote: S_mirnov
            unlike us, they do not destroy their army, industry, agriculture and factories. And then who are we if they are crazy

            You can’t argue with that. And I would like, alas, I can’t.
            Restoring industry is our first priority. Although in essence it will have to be rebuilt.
        3. Kaa
          Kaa 19 October 2012 23: 32
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          But about this, given what they do in the world, they’re insane !!!

          I propose to spray the "weapon of mass antipsychotic cure" over UWB - a few tons of chlorpromazine, you see, and the world will let it ... laughing
      2. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 19 October 2012 18: 14
        +2
        "and train cadres ready to lead the dissatisfied" - the blessing of the recent ones, our government supplies them in huge quantities! Or do you think these people are furious with fat?
        http://www.nr2.ru/moskow/408221.html
        http://anti-smart.ru/o-sobytiyah-v-ryazani-proishodit-novaya-kondopoga
        "Being a supplier of energy resources to Europe, Russia may well live happily ever after and slowly restore its industry. That's what they don't want." - that's exactly why they spend petrodollars on the Olympics that no one needs, holding the football championship and building stadiums that are always subsidized objects and do not bring profit (in contrast to state-owned factories).
        "The Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex should work." and who will make them, or at least give the opportunity to work for those who want it?
        http://www.nr2.ru/election/406973.html
        "and we - to supply gas to Europe. There is no alternative." - well, the bright future of the raw materials colony is straight forward! And we don't need gas ourselves? In other respects, I understand that there is no need for heavy industry to trade in gas, except for factories that produce pipes and valves.
        http://demotivation.me/3uaryq9u4ms2pic.html
  3. andrei332809
    andrei332809 19 October 2012 07: 13
    +3
    Now we need to drive and drive weapons. be strong, there will be peace. otherwise, we will simply be confronted with the fact of redistribution, and not in our favor.
    1. Saracen
      Saracen 19 October 2012 10: 54
      0
      The government of the USSR is also in the 2nd floor. 20th century, also drove weapons and where is the weapons and where is the country?
      If there is an army, especially over-armed, then it must fight and be profitable. Capture or control territories, communications, etc. Everything that the United States is doing now, although somewhere it may tactically lose, temporarily, but strategically, it keeps the course correctly according to its convictions.
      and the defense army (sufficiently armed) can only guard the borders of its own and neighboring countries, and not to stutter about any impact on world processes.
    2. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 19 October 2012 18: 23
      +1
      "Chasing" is not difficult :) but weapons have to be produced on something, and we still remember Hitler's machines in factories! We spent all the money on the construction of stadiums, now we buy weapons in France and Italy.
  4. Magadan
    Magadan 19 October 2012 07: 18
    +12
    Russia has a unique chance to win the sympathy of all the normal people on the planet. For example, the West sympathizes with homosexuals, and we say that this abomination is unacceptable to our culture. The West speaks of the democratization of everyone and everything, and we insist on the right of any country, any culture to live according to its national traditions. The West pushes juvenile justice everywhere, and we say that this is pure fascism in relation to family values ​​and we insist on the inviolability of the Family from bureaucrats of all sorts. In a word, we say that we live according to the traditional values ​​based on the Bible (Quran), and they took the side of Satanim. Thus, we will attract not only normal countries, but also normal, mentally healthy people from NATO countries.
    1. arhipelag
      arhipelag 19 October 2012 08: 13
      +2
      + a good idea, only first you need to dispel the myth that We drink vodka for company with bears and the like ... wink
      1. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 19 October 2012 15: 58
        +2
        No, we have a right to it! We must dispel another myth - that we are a corruption country and are ready to sell even our mother and motherland. We’ll hang a dozen other wiseacres who advocate for juvenile in Russia and homosexuality, then they will believe us.
        Here Lukashenko - the old man is well done, did not hesitate to say that in Europe pid ..sya calling everything by their proper names)))
    2. Igor
      Igor 19 October 2012 10: 17
      0
      And there, points were not lost anywhere that our standard of living is higher than in the West, with high technologies we are ahead of the rest.

      Quote: Magadan
      For example, the West sympathizes with homosexuals, and we say that this abomination is unacceptable to our culture.


      It’s strange, I don’t remember something for planting someone for sodomy)))

      Quote: Magadan
      The West speaks of the democratization of everyone and everything, and we insist on the right of any country, any culture to live according to its national traditions.


      Bugagaga !!! Now even the most recent African dictator considers himself a democrat, despite even the culture and traditions)))


      Quote: Magadan
      The West pushes juvenile justice everywhere, and we say that this is pure fascism in relation to family values ​​and we insist on the inviolability of the Family from bureaucrats of all sorts.


      It is every day that news comes that some mother threw her children out of the window, and some dad intoxicated killed his child because he screamed loudly or asked to eat.

      Quote: Magadan
      In a word, we say that we live according to traditional values ​​based on the Bible (Quran), and they took the side of Satanim.


      You Afghanistan did not confuse the case of Russia?
      1. Ilyich
        Ilyich 19 October 2012 14: 06
        +1
        Quote: Igorek
        It’s strange, I don’t remember something for planting someone for sodomy)))

        And why suddenly plant if there is no such article in the Criminal Code? Yes, and plant for it - too cool. For propaganda - yes. But not for homosexuality, as such. Let yourself peck, fuck in bed to look.
        Quote: Igorek
        Bugagaga !!! Now even the most recent African dictator considers himself a democrat, despite even the culture and traditions)))

        And what else should he do if, in the event of a "step to the right, a step to the left," he is simply gouged by humanitarian bombing and all the cases? There will be an alternative pole of power - there will be supporters in other countries.
        Quote: Igorek
        It is every day that news comes that some mother threw her children out of the window, and some dad intoxicated killed his child because he screamed loudly or asked to eat.

        There is, of course. But that's just not on the scale, as the magazines say. It seems that in almost every house this happens. Have you personally heard about neighbors or neighboring houses at least once? At least at the rumor level ... I think it’s unlikely. All this guano pours only from the TV. and newspapers.
        1. Igor
          Igor 19 October 2012 14: 19
          0
          Quote: Ilyich
          And why suddenly plant if there is no such article in the Criminal Code? Yes, and plant for it - too cool.


          Exactly, and the comrade from above writes that this is unacceptable to our culture, if that would be so, then they would be imprisoned for it.

          Quote: Ilyich
          And what else should he do if, in the event of a "step to the right, a step to the left," he is simply gouged by humanitarian bombing and all the cases?


          Called a cargo, climb into the basket (s)

          Quote: Ilyich

          There is, of course. But that's just not on the scale, as the magazines say. It seems that in almost every house this happens.


          Of course not in every house, but quite often.
          1. Ilyich
            Ilyich 19 October 2012 14: 36
            0
            Quote: Igorek
            Exactly, and the comrade from above writes that this is unacceptable to our culture, if that would be so, then they would be imprisoned for it.

            Of course unacceptable. This is not only unacceptable in our culture, but in general in any normal culture. But to plant for a disease (and this is precisely a disease. Genetic or psychiatric) is too much. Do not rush to extremes.
            Quote: Igorek
            Called a cargo, climb into the basket (s)

            No not like this. There is another saying: Let them call a pot, if only they would not put it in the oven.
            Quote: Igorek
            Of course not in every house, but quite often.

            How often? How often have you personally heard of such cases? Only not on TV, but personally, at the level of rumors. From grandmothers at the entrance, on gatherings with friends, etc.
            ??
            1. Igor
              Igor 19 October 2012 15: 17
              0
              Quote: Ilyich
              Of course unacceptable. This is not only unacceptable in our culture, but in general in any normal culture.


              Since homosexuals have become part of society, they have become part of culture.

              Quote: Ilyich
              No not like this. There is another saying: Let them call a pot, if only they would not put it in the oven.


              The problem is that these "pots" called themselves "pots".

              Quote: Ilyich

              How often?


              Everything is relative.

              Quote: Ilyich
              From grandmothers at the entrance, on gatherings with friends, etc.


              Ogh! So I go outside, sit down on a bench and ask my grandmothers about the latest gossip, then I go to a bar with friends and discuss the criminal situation in the city laughing
              1. Ilyich
                Ilyich 19 October 2012 15: 55
                0
                Quote: Igorek
                Since homosexuals have become part of society, they have become part of culture.

                Not yet. Because parades are arranged to show everyone their legitimacy. In fact they just want to become part of society.
                Quote: Igorek
                The problem is that these "pots" called themselves "pots".

                Who cares who called? The purpose of the pot remains the same: not to get into the stove.
                Quote: Igorek
                Everything is relative.

                That's it. The word "often" is a relative concept. Each has its own. That's why I ask how often.
                Quote: Igorek
                Ogh! So I go outside, sit down on a bench and ask my grandmothers about the latest gossip, then I go to a bar with friends and discuss the criminal situation in the city

                Don't pretend wink You perfectly understood what I meant smile
                1. Igor
                  Igor 19 October 2012 16: 43
                  0
                  Quote: Ilyich
                  Not yet.


                  Already, already. They work, vote, like all citizens.

                  Quote: Ilyich
                  Because parades are arranged to show everyone their legitimacy.


                  Parades are arranged only by a small part, which is signed for all gays (such as Navalny and Udaltsov sign for the entire Russian people for the money of the State Department), and they don’t give a damn about the normal part of it.


                  Quote: Ilyich
                  Who cares who called?


                  What will they ask you, and if the democrats themselves called someone a democrat, then they won’t ask you either.

                  Quote: Ilyich

                  That's it. The word "often" is a relative concept. Each has its own. That's why I ask how often.


                  So it is necessary to bring the situation "to every house" in order to take action?

                  Quote: Ilyich
                  Do not pretend to be a wink You perfectly understood what I meant smile


                  So what! For example, I've never heard of such mothers and fathers, drunk drivers, rapists, pedophiles, but this does not mean that every year the number of crimes committed by these citizens is waning.
                  1. Ilyich
                    Ilyich 20 October 2012 00: 59
                    0
                    Quote: Igorek
                    Already, already. They work, vote, like all citizens.

                    So what? This phenomenon in public life can be compared with the injection of the virus into the body.
                    He lived his own body, went to work, sometimes swelled. And then the virus got into it. What are we observing? We observe snot, cough, aches and a general increase in temperature. Disease, in a word. The virus multiplies in a favorable environment, of course. But this does not mean at all that he has become part of the body. This is still a foreign biology hostile to the body.
                    If they worked and voted like the rest of the citizens, there would be no problem. The trick is precisely that they work almost always in professions that affect the mass consciousness and culture of society. And by all means they try to prove to everyone that they live more correctly than everyone and are the most advanced part of society, for they are deprived of prejudice, etc. etc .. With the same success, viruses can prove that they brought a better life into the body, because the temperature rose, and the body stopped working with them.
                    Quote: Igorek
                    So it is necessary to bring the situation "to every house" in order to take action?

                    yes no of course. But tearing your hair out that everything is missing is also not worth it. Because under this tearing of hair all rubbish is usually crammed. For example, juvenile justice in this case.
                    Quote: Igorek
                    For example, I’ve never heard of such mothers and fathers, drunk drivers, rapists, pedophiles, but this does not mean that every year the number of crimes committed by these citizens is waning.

                    Well, in such specific situations it is not known. But the overall crime rate in Russia is clearly falling. Little by little, I agree. But falls. See any statistics. Here is the first one that comes across.

                    There is such an ancient legal postulate that crime is a normal reaction of normal people to abnormal living conditions.
                    We draw conclusions: your life is gradually normalizing wink
                2. Phase
                  Phase 19 October 2012 16: 50
                  +2
                  Quote: Ilyich
                  Not yet. Because parades are arranged to show everyone their legitimacy. In fact, they only want to become part of society.

                  +1. That is why the prohibition of propaganda was introduced. That is, there may be fagots, but they must be marginal - like homeless people or junkies. That is, to be in the category "atstoy" and not to evoke sympathy among the youth.
              2. Phase
                Phase 19 October 2012 16: 47
                +2
                Quote: Igorek
                Since homosexuals have become part of society, they have become part of culture.

                A completely wrong conclusion. If you plant for propaganda, then the buggers will be just an unofficial part of society. And in culture, their image can be served very sarcastically or contemptuously. That is, so that no one wants to identify with them.
                1. Igor
                  Igor 19 October 2012 17: 13
                  0
                  Quote: Phase
                  If you plant for propaganda, then the buggers will be just an unofficial part of society.


                  It is precisely that they will be part of society and culture, although not advertised.
    3. Kaa
      Kaa 19 October 2012 23: 49
      +1
      Quote: Magadan
      the West sympathizes with homosexuals, and we say that this abomination is unacceptable to our culture.

      In fact, this muck cannot be applicable in any culture, unless you bring the people to a mentally deranged state. I will try to explain my view on a similar example. In any culture and in any ethnic group, the sight and smell of feces, decomposing corpses (I will not continue further) at the genetic level without habit causes not only disgust, but also a gag reflex. This is a defensive reaction of our ancestors to a potential source of deadly infection, danger, who did not have this reflex, did not leave descendants due to early death. Coprophilia, necrophilia are the lot of mentally ill people. Disgust can be overcome deliberately (forensic doctors, for example) Homophobia is a natural defensive reaction not of one person, but of a mentally full-fledged society that does not want to end its existence due to the fact that no matter how long you put it there, nothing but shit will come out, and society needs children ... Conclusion - there is a small percentage of mentally ill people with this symptom and a social order to overcome natural aversion to reduce the birth rate and prosperity of the "golden billion" through "tolerance, LGBT people, and so on ...
  5. dirty trick
    dirty trick 19 October 2012 11: 44
    +1
    Quote: bask
    , It's up to the president.!

    not only, but it seems that the Foreign Ministry has been working quite professionally in recent years and I hope that it will be possible to break off the intrigues of the mattress toppers!
  6. Van
    Van 19 October 2012 14: 57
    +4
    The USA today is the only truly global power capable of intervening in events anywhere in the world. The US military budget today exceeds the total military budget: the rest of the NATO countries, the Russian Federation and China.


    God save our planet from the domination of these demons of chaos ...
  7. Grey68
    Grey68 20 October 2012 00: 00
    0
    bask,
    Why, then, do many people constantly idealize GDP? What genes do not give rest, Tsar-Batyushka all remember? And what about a Pumpkin hanging on their neck?