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For Russia, there is no military solution to the situation in Ukraine

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For Russia, there is no military solution to the situation in Ukraine



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In my last article, I analyzed Kuchma's book "Ukraine is not Russia." Among other things, it voiced the thesis that the population of Ukraine, to put it mildly, is heterogeneous in its political and ideological views. Russia's military victory will not be able to change this. Moreover, the more trap - the more problematic in the socio-political sense will be the regions.

It is also necessary to understand that in the presence of a real threat, in the most extreme case, the government of Ukraine can be evacuated outside its borders and carry out its activities aimed at destabilizing the region indefinitely. It will be appropriate to recall an article that was published in the Military Review back in 2012, with a very telling title - "NKVD against the UPA - the war after the Victory".

However, it is worth noting two important facts. Firstly, such methods can hardly be expected in the current realities. Secondly, as time has shown, even they could not completely cure the patient.

Economic issue


In addition to the social aspect, there is another, no less, and perhaps even more important issue - the economic one.

Here it would be appropriate to make some digression - after the collapse of the USSR, the oligarchs became the owners of the once "national" wealth. In Russia, Vladimir Putin clearly outlined the rules - oligarchs can do business, but they should not get into politics.

In Ukraine, unfortunately, this did not happen. For this reason, everything that happened in the political arena of the "square" was, in fact, a puppet theater for children. The real power has always belonged to the oligarchs, while politicians were just a screen, diverting people's attention from really important problems to secondary issues.

What are the main questions?

It does not matter at all in which direction the country develops, wherever it goes, its foundation will always be such areas as energy and logistics.
These areas require huge investments and are designed for payback periods measured in decades.

And no matter what anyone says about “unwashed Russia”, the fact is that the schedule for the development of electricity generation in the Russian Federation looks something like this:


While in Ukraine - something like this:


Moreover, it is noteworthy that the English version of Wikipedia even focuses on such a graph:


There is a "decommunization" three times.

What is funny, the Ukrainian version of this article on Wiki does not contain graphs.

But the quantitative indicator is half the trouble. The second half can be characterized by the report of American military engineers, which was compiled in 2016 based on the results of the audit of DneproHPP. The state of many nodes there was assessed as close to emergency and an urgent overhaul was recommended.

With the railway (logistics) the situation is no better. And perhaps even worse. Briefly, it is characterized in just two minutes of this video:


The list of the richest people in Ukraine is opened by Rinat Akhmetov and Viktor Pinchuk. By a strange coincidence, Akhmetov is engaged in energy, and Pinchuk is engaged in the production of railway products, but not for passenger transportation (Ukrainians will endure continuing to ride in Soviet cars), but for freight trains. The very ones that export products from factories owned by other oligarchs.

For 30 years, Ukrainian oligarchs have been siphoning off the resource from the infrastructure that Ukraine inherited from the USSR, monetized it, without trying to return at least part of the money to support this structure.

While a woman in a wheelchair was wheeled around the political arena, and the newly minted poets of the Maidan wrote their poems about "brotherhood", the Ukrainian oligarchs left Ukraine in a state of impending systemic collapse. If we draw analogies, Ukraine was sold to the United States, like a car from under a taxi. With near-zero resources.

After the events of 2014, Russia spent a lot of money to bring Crimea back to normal. The video below shows a small part of what we had to do with the infrastructure.


For us, this means that we need to think 1 times before “attaching” certain areas. It is necessary to do this, looking back at the strategic and economic value of the regions.

Only further advance along the Black Sea coast, in order to control the Black Sea and the presence of a land corridor to Transnistria, can be attributed to the really necessary military tasks. A number of other regions may be of some value, but the complete denazification of Ukraine by military means is a very dubious scenario for Russia.

An alternative method of defending its interests for Russia is the use of energy and food leverage. We must understand that our geopolitical opponents also have a very limited margin of safety in these areas. After all, Ukraine's Western partners must support it not only with weapons.

The media in Ukraine widely advertised the orientation of the energy system of Ukraine towards Western partners. Moreover, curators from the United States positioned Ukraine, represented by Zelensky, as a country that could come to Europe's aid in the energy issue.

Ukraine is ready to increase electricity exports to Europe, but for this it is important that the Zaporozhye NPP remains connected to the Ukrainian grid. Our energy exports could reduce Moscow's pressure on Europe and Italy: despite all the difficulties, we can help provide at least 8% of electricity consumption in Italy.

Today, another significant step has taken place in our rapprochement with the European Union, Ukraine has begun a significant export of electricity to the territory of the EU, to Romania. And this is only the first stage, we are preparing to expand supplies.
Zelensky stressed that this is a matter not only of export income for Ukraine, but also of ensuring security for the whole of Europe. He recalled that the country joined the European energy system after the start of Russia's special operation.

However, to date, the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant has been shut down and is under Russian control. All events around this station clearly demonstrate as far as this moment was important for our opponents. Russia has completely destroyed the image of Zelensky as a “partner” of Europe, capable of giving at least something in return.

Moreover, by striking at CHPP-5, Russia showed that it can very easily make Zelensky not a donor, but a recipient.

And, in my opinion, this is a brilliant victory for Russia, which potentially opens up very great opportunities.

After all, initially, I repeat, Zelensky was presented to Western inhabitants as a person who would help Europe at least in some way. And under the circumstances, the West may have to energetically contain Ukraine, against the backdrop of the energy crisis "at their home."

This aspect is important because the layman does not feel anything when his country sends 10 howitzers to Ukraine. But on the other hand, he immediately feels the low temperature in the room and the multiply increased utility bills, as well as the lack of electricity due to rolling blackouts.

Now we should wait for the reaction of the West and further actions of the Russian Defense Ministry in relation to the energy system of Ukraine. After all, this aspect for the Europeans is much more important than what is happening now on the Ukrainian battlefields.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 14 September 2022 05: 43
    +23
    Zaporozhye nuclear power plant shut down and under Russian control
    Then why the hell did they leave Chernobyl?
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 14 September 2022 06: 04
      +42
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Then why the hell did they leave Chernobyl?

      The Chernobyl nuclear power plant has long been not a nuclear power plant, but a burial ground, firstly, and secondly, they took out what was needed and moved away. There is no value in it, although the danger certainly remains, but I think that it is limited.
      But the idea that "there is no military solution" is generally false. Without it, the anti-Russian outskirts cannot be knocked out at all. Then, combined, military-political-economically, to solve the problem, but for now - only by military means.
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 14 September 2022 06: 15
        +8
        All the events around this station clearly demonstrate how important this moment was for our opponents. Russia has completely destroyed the image of Zelensky as a “partner” of Europe, capable of giving at least something in return.

        Can the author explain why he is not satisfied with the explanation that Europe is afraid of a radiation accident at the ZNPP, as she says in plain text?
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 14 September 2022 06: 59
          +9
          Quote: military_cat
          that Europe is afraid of a radiation accident at the ZNPP, as she says in plain text?

          And why is this question for the author, and not for the Ukrainian elite? Neither the author nor Russia fire at nuclear power plants ...
          1. Civil
            Civil 14 September 2022 07: 18
            -10
            1. Probably the author sets out correctly, but it is unlikely that the ukroreich will agree to a peace treaty. BUT if the owner of the dog pulls on the collar, the clown will not go anywhere.
            2. Dear supporters of the battle to the bitter end, respected by me, please return to reality.
            1. Boris Sergeev
              Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 08: 35
              -2
              The "owner of the dog" will pull the collar ... in fact, the owner did not raise this "hound of the Baskervilles" for that, in order to pull the collar.

              On February 24.02, the President explained this in detail. And he said very relevant words. I wouldn’t forget them myself: “In response to our proposals, we constantly faced either cynical deception and lies, or attempts to pressure and blackmail, while the North Atlantic Alliance, in the meantime, despite all our protests and concerns, is steadily expanding. The war machine is moving and, I repeat, is coming close to our borders.

              Why is all this happening? Where does this impudent manner of speaking from the position of one's own exclusivity, infallibility and permissiveness come from? Where does the disdainful, disdainful attitude towards our interests and absolutely legitimate demands come from?

              The answer is clear, everything is clear and obvious. The Soviet Union in the late 80s of the last century weakened, and then completely collapsed. The whole course of the events that took place then is a good lesson for us today, it convincingly showed that the paralysis of power and will is the first step towards complete degradation and oblivion.
              1. Civil
                Civil 14 September 2022 08: 56
                -1
                On February 24.02, the President explained this in detail.

                Since then a lot has changed. GDP is not dogmatic, it acts according to the situation in real time.
                The "owner of the dog" will pull the collar ... in fact, the owner raised this "hound of the Baskervilles" for the wrong reason in order to pull the collar

                This is understandable, but the situation can get out of control at any moment - WINTER IS COMING.
                1. Boris Sergeev
                  Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 09: 38
                  +6
                  Yes, don’t worry so much about the coming winter, first of all, because these are not your problems, but in the West they will somehow be solved. For example, "ally" Azerbaijan is already supplying gas there and promising to increase it.
                  And then explain the difference between "not being a dogmatist" and "being unprincipled"!
                  1. Civil
                    Civil 14 September 2022 09: 58
                    0
                    Quote: Boris Sergeev
                    And then explain the difference between "not being a dogmatist" and "being unprincipled"!

                    Principle - Russia must be Great.
                    Dogma - Russia can be Great only by military victory in Ukraine.
                    1. Boris Sergeev
                      Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 10: 15
                      +2
                      Do you want to offer us a moral victory? Or maybe win on points?

                      “I think that the US military goals in this conflict should include the de-imperialization of Russia. I think we should begin the end of the Russian Federation in its current form. We need to be ready for something that we were not ready for in the case of the USSR "- Former Commander of US Forces in Europe Ben Hodges
                      1. Civil
                        Civil 14 September 2022 10: 24
                        +8
                        I don't believe that if any treaty is signed, the next day the Kremlin will fall apart. Nothing will happen. In Russia, there is not a single public institution that could not follow the party line this time.
                        In Russia, there is no society capable of being offended to the point of rebellion, and for units of the dissatisfied, a district police officer is always ready, that's two.
                        Capitalism of the feudal type - only the subjects owe, the rest do not owe anything to anyone. And they don't owe anything.
                      2. Boris Sergeev
                        Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 10: 39
                        +5
                        First, can you read? No contract will be offered to rags - Ben Hodges will simply wipe his feet on them. Secondly, whatever you mean by "the greatness of Russia", but it will not exist either. At least in its current form. Well, all sorts of "nishtyaks", like castles on the Cote d'Azur, will remain only with the Gauleiters.
                      3. Boris Sergeev
                        Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 11: 13
                        +4
                        "Russia must be great without a military victory over the Ukrainians."

                        "Greatness" looks like this: "Today I saw bravura reports that there were no Russian teachers in the Kharkiv region, and they helped all the locals who wanted to leave for Russia. But this is not true. Tens of thousands of people who did not have time will fall under persecution. leave.

                        It is possible that there are no Russian teachers in the Kharkiv region now, but there definitely remained teachers who were retrained to Russian standards in Russia or started working in schools. They write to me that today many of them were detained, and Ukraine demands to change them to Azov. Tell me, is this a reason for joy that other teachers were arrested instead of Russian teachers? After all, they are all ours.

                        Many messages from the Kharkiv region ... It's scary for those abandoned by us. And ashamed. It's a shame they couldn't defend. It's a shame that, it turns out, they deceived" (O. Tsarev).
                      4. Boris Sergeev
                        Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 14: 49
                        -3
                        Back in April, E. Kholmogorov published a note:

                        “A defeat (and no propaganda can turn a truce with Ukraine from defeat into victory) will undermine the two ideological bonds that hold the legitimacy of Russian power.

                        1. We are the heirs of the Great Victory over Nazism.

                        2. We have a great army, and if anything, we will show everyone.

                        Now the entire system of the Russian Federation rests on the fact that any axioms are disputed except for these. And May 9 is the holiday of these axioms, these bonds, and both together.

                        Creeping away from Ukraine with a miserable treaty like the one discussed in Istanbul and with territorial acquisitions in the form of the borders of the LDNR, which in 2014 could be restored with the help of two regiments, would mean:

                        1. We declared war on our symbolic enemy - Nazism - and turned out to be unworthy of our grandfathers.

                        2. Our army cannot, it is a third world army, and not the best.


                        Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1648798860
                    2. haron
                      haron 14 September 2022 20: 21
                      -2
                      Quote: Civil
                      Dogma - Russia can be Great only through a military victory in Ukraine.

                      What is it like? How can a victory over a territory without a full-fledged functioning state make the Russian Federation great?
                      In the article, the problems of Ukraine as a state are indicated in a vector-correct manner (the power in itself is the people in themselves). What does power without impurities from the people since 1994, with the rare exception of replacing the arrogant).
                      The author forgot to point out that the Ukrainian state did not privatize more than half of what was done in the Russian Federation approximately between 1997 and 2004 (I could be wrong)
                      In fact, in the Russian Federation, enterprises were run by people interested in profit. In Ukrainian, state employees sitting on his cut are not interested in development in any way, but only to get more out of the budget and steal little things. They threw the sweetest things on sale (energy, metal, strategist products without household land), but this is not dog food either.
                      Compare countries' salaries and pensions in 2013.
                      In this state of the economy, it is a distant third world. And the most important thing is the bias in the mentality of Ukrainians in any region towards life according to the newly created traditions of the emptiness of power, but not as according to the laws of the state.
                      No Bandera and Natsiks .... although what am I talking about. Just a diametrically opposed relationship between the people and the government.
                    3. mongolian9999
                      mongolian9999 14 September 2022 20: 59
                      +2
                      From theses about greatness smells bad. There were "Great" some in the last century. Then they began to call themselves "Exceptional". I'm more comfortable with other principles. Russia, like everyone else, should be EQUAL. Both inside and outside. Well, JUST inside and out. In my opinion, the Russian soul is more accurately reflected in this way. Striving for justice. This is what our enemies cannot stomach.
                  2. your1970
                    your1970 14 September 2022 11: 49
                    +1
                    Quote: Boris Sergeev
                    For example, "ally" Azerbaijan is already supplying gas there and promising to increase it.

                    Up to 6% by 2027 will increase, no more.
                    1. Boris Sergeev
                      Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 12: 08
                      -2
                      “Thus, Azerbaijan announced that by the end of the year they plan to transport 30% more natural gas to the European Union than in the past. “The total volume of supplies to Europe in 2022 will be 12 billion cubic meters,” Azerbaijani Energy Minister Parviz Shahbazov tweeted. Israel will be able to supply the EU with about 10 percent of the amount of gas Europe received from Russia in 2021, Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid said. “We are going to take part in efforts to replace Russian gas in Europe,” Lapid said after the meeting.

                      Source: https://kosatka.media/category/gaz/news/azerbaydzhan-i-izrail-uvelichat-postavki-gaza-v-es,
                      1. your1970
                        your1970 14 September 2022 12: 15
                        0
                        Quote: Boris Sergeev
                        Thus, Azerbaijan stated that by the end of the year they plan to transport 30% more natural gas to the European Union than in the past.

                        6% by 2027 from the necessary EU - and 30% of last year's deliveries - small...
                        and Israel has 10% of them - a little
                      2. Boris Sergeev
                        Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 12: 47
                        +4
                        Who are you comforting? In addition to Azerbaijan, which sells gas to spite Russia, the EU has other opportunities. No one will crawl to you on their knees, and they will supply the military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Because, unlike the "Kremlin dreamers", NATO has a clear goal - to destroy the Russian Federation with the hands of the laying country. It is necessary to think about how the "great energy power" will use its gas in order not to depend on foreign exchange earnings for the payment of allowances and pensions.
                      3. AlexHafele
                        AlexHafele 14 September 2022 12: 59
                        +2
                        Quote: Boris Sergeev
                        Who are you comforting?

                        And you?
                      4. Boris Sergeev
                        Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 13: 16
                        -1
                        I do not reassure anyone, but I affirm that we need to fix our own problems, and not rely on the fact that other people's problems will solve everything for us.
                      5. Leontrotsky
                        Leontrotsky 14 September 2022 14: 28
                        +2
                        Another question is the price of the issue. Can it compare with Russian 350 per thousand?
                      6. Boris Sergeev
                        Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 15: 24
                        0
                        In 2015, there was even a whole (in Russia, "opposing the West" so they say) on TV "slogan": "Winter is coming." It meant that Ukraine would now freeze. Nothing frozen...
                      7. mongolian9999
                        mongolian9999 14 September 2022 21: 01
                        +1
                        Unfortunately, only the brains froze.
                      8. Leontrotsky
                        Leontrotsky 15 September 2022 09: 03
                        +2
                        Back then, the situation was not even close to what it is now.
                  3. Dimcor
                    Dimcor 14 September 2022 14: 15
                    -3
                    Well, ok, Russia supplied gas to some countries at 40% or more. Azerbaijan - 1-2%. Here Azerbaijan will put on some effort, it will give out all 3%, although it is not easy to do it out of the blue. There is still a shortfall of about the same 40%.
                    1. Boris Sergeev
                      Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 14: 27
                      +4
                      What joy do you get from this? There are people there who are working on this, there will be no fundamental concessions to Russia because of this. Not such hucksters sit there as Volodin, pointing to the billions lost by Europe from the lack of tourists from Russia. They know there about the lost billions, so what? "Visiting the EU is a privilege." Learn to be principled from them!
                  4. Illanatol
                    Illanatol 16 September 2022 08: 32
                    +1
                    Quote: Boris Sergeev
                    but don’t worry so much about the coming winter, first of all, because these are not your problems, but in the West they will somehow be solved. For example, "ally" Azerbaijan is already supplying gas there and promising to increase it.


                    1, These are not our problems, but our achievement.
                    2. Did gas from Azerbaijan help solve EU energy problems?
                    It did not help and will not help, like gas from Qatar or the USA ..
              2. kig
                kig 15 September 2022 01: 27
                +1
                Quote: Boris Sergeev
                "And meanwhile, the North Atlantic Alliance, despite all our protests and concerns, is steadily expanding.
                How about this now? Ukraine is being supplied with weapons, despite the fact that it is not a member, and soon the most modern weapons will go there. The alliance has expanded further than ever, and Finland has already joined. I don’t know how the Lavrovs agreed before, but now it’s impossible to talk with NATO from a position of strength. Everyone has already understood that the Russian bear is not so scary. Ukraine in the end, in any case, will remain our most obvious and stubborn enemy. What's next?
            2. Vsevolod136
              Vsevolod136 15 September 2022 00: 39
              -1
              Quote: Author
              For Russia, there is no military solution to the situation in Ukraine

              belay
              A rotten stuffing, however, I did not expect anything else from the author, "Kemsk volost", however.
              Obviously, the "under-identified" remnants of Ukraine will be pumped up by the Anglo-Saxons with modern weapons and mercenaries to "return" the Crimea, etc., for starters.
              In fact, the author proposes to leave an abscess on our border, instead of removing it.
              Quote: Author
              Secondly, as time has shown, even they could not completely cure the patient.

              As time has shown, they didn’t try, on the contrary, diligently Ukrainianized the Russians, forcibly annexed the Russian regions and Crimea, contributed to the return of the unfinished Banderaites to the USSR, did everything so that the chimera (Ukraine) created by the Bolsheviks would grow stronger and even get a seat in the UN.
              By the way, the inclusion of the Ukrainian SSR in the UN was facilitated by the Zionists, who dreamed of establishing a Jewish autonomous state with its capital in Gomel on the territory of Belarus and the Ukrainian SSR. At present, a certain Igor Berkut (Heavenly Jerusalem) is trying to talk about this.
              And it is necessary to treat it harshly, because our enemies succeeded in the Polonization of Russian Volhynia and Galicia, let's start the reverse process, for a start, stopping teaching the ridiculous Polish-Austrian chimerical construct in schools.
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 14 September 2022 08: 01
            -3
            Look at the wind rose in Energodar, although the Ukrainians could adjust it as they need.
          3. military_cat
            military_cat 14 September 2022 08: 05
            +2
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            And why is this question for the author, and not for the Ukrainian elite?

            Because the author in the article expresses his opinion.
      2. anclevalico
        anclevalico 14 September 2022 10: 19
        +1
        You want to say that they removed the SNF storage? I strongly doubt something.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 14 September 2022 11: 29
          -3
          Quote: anclevalico
          You want to say that they removed the SNF storage? I strongly doubt something.

          Of course not, as far as I remember, it was about secret developments and materials for nuclear weapons.
      3. skeptic
        skeptic 14 September 2022 12: 08
        +3
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        But the idea that "there is no military solution" is generally false. Without it, the anti-Russian outskirts cannot be knocked out at all. Then, combined, military-political-economically, to solve the problem, but for now - only by military means.

        Moreover, by striking at CHPP-5, Russia showed that it can very easily make Zelensky not a donor, but a recipient.

        In the meantime, Russia gives an additional reason to be called a "terrorist state."
        About the military way:
        General Bertolini: What we saw in Kharkiv region cannot be repeated

        During the counter-offensive operation in the Kharkiv region, the Ukrainian military captured thousands of Russian soldiers. Moreover, the Ukrainian exchange fund even replenished with officers, says the German Die Welt. The media calls the statements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation that a "regrouping of troops" was carried out in the Kharkiv region "a lie." The reason is, journalists write, that the defense line suddenly collapsed there, after which the Russian forces “just ran away.” The retreating troops left a lot of equipment and ammunition in the Kharkov region, leaving it all to the mercy of fate.

        Preferably not.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 14 September 2022 13: 52
          -3
          Quote: skeptic
          In the meantime, Russia gives an additional reason to be called a "terrorist state."

          How is it, so what, didn’t the air conditioners explode?! In fact, don't you care?
          Quote: skeptic
          Ukrainian military captured thousands of Russian soldiers.
          Well, not millions, thanks for that. These are not those unworthy media outlets where Russia is shelling itself at the ZaNPP?
        2. Essex62
          Essex62 14 September 2022 19: 58
          +1
          Exactly. Already on the air, on the First, it is clear that the sanction was received by some deputy in the core, who, surprisingly, dangles to the front line, told in detail how the army is fighting and how many refuseniks there are to go into battle, five hundredth in fact.
          This is the edge. He proposed to introduce the VP, at least, on the territory bordering the outskirts. To have legal grounds to call such deserters.
    2. SvyatoslavK
      SvyatoslavK 15 September 2022 16: 56
      0
      I also wanted to write that 3 reactors can be launched at Chernobolskaya in case of emergency ... But then I remembered that after the shutdown, if I remember everything correctly, a partial dismantling of systems and equipment began. And the remaining "workers" who were "held hostage" are, in fact, there to monitor the sarcophagus and the Shelter object and work to dismantle the systems
  2. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 14 September 2022 05: 48
    +35
    Now we should wait for the reaction of the West and further actions of the Russian Defense Ministry in relation to the energy system of Ukraine.

    The author of 8 years of waiting for the Minsk agreements apparently did not teach anything.
    Leaving Ukraine with the Nazi regime without changing death is like... such Ukraine as gangrene will infect Russia with cadaveric decay and this will inevitably lead to the death of our country.
    Therefore, it is definitely necessary to cut off the independent from the Black Sea... drive Ukrainian radicals back to Galicia like Idlib in Syria and surround it with barbed wire... and carry out subversive work among them for complete decomposition... this is the only way to solve the problem of Ukraine.
    Eternal gestures of goodwill strike in the opposite direction against Russia ... it's time to stop with such gestures.
    1. Stils
      Stils 14 September 2022 10: 24
      +4
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Now we should wait for the reaction of the West and further actions of the Russian Defense Ministry in relation to the energy system of Ukraine.

      The author of 8 years of waiting for the Minsk agreements apparently did not teach anything.
      Leaving Ukraine with the Nazi regime without changing death is like... such Ukraine as gangrene will infect Russia with cadaveric decay and this will inevitably lead to the death of our country.
      Therefore, it is definitely necessary to cut off the independent from the Black Sea... drive Ukrainian radicals back to Galicia like Idlib in Syria and surround it with barbed wire... and carry out subversive work among them for complete decomposition... this is the only way to solve the problem of Ukraine.
      Eternal gestures of goodwill strike in the opposite direction against Russia ... it's time to stop with such gestures.

      All this sounds great of course .... cut off, drive, decompose.
      But it seems that someone decided to turn off, because it is impossible to wage a war of attrition with an enemy who has unlimited military and human resources, or rather, it is possible to wage, but not for long, then there will be a rout. It's obvious, well, either the whole world is in dust. And the moment of truth is somewhere close already.
    2. smart ass
      smart ass 14 September 2022 10: 28
      +1
      Just wondering how do you imagine it? Will you take Kyiv and lions? Or am I a strategist and not a tactician?
    3. filibuster
      filibuster 14 September 2022 12: 02
      +4
      There is no solution here, this is a real stalemate for Russia. It's just a matter of choosing between bad and very bad. War before victory means great losses, destroyed Ukraine, millions of Ukrainians who hate us and the most difficult economic and political situation inside Russia.
      They say that the political talk show has already gone probing the soil about "there is no military solution", "Putin did not know the whole truth." I am personally sure that if it were not for the issue of the Crimea, then Russia would slowly turn off the NVO due to its lack of prospects.
      1. mongolian9999
        mongolian9999 14 September 2022 21: 05
        0
        There is a third option. American war. See how many benefits. Troops are not killed, equipment is not destroyed, there are no millions of embittered Ukrainians. Just the steppe for fifty years.
        1. filibuster
          filibuster 14 September 2022 21: 09
          -1
          And where did they fight like that lately? In Iraq and Afghanistan, they fought differently.
          1. mongolian9999
            mongolian9999 14 September 2022 21: 19
            +1
            The new is the well-forgotten old.
  3. Boris Sergeev
    Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 05: 53
    +45
    It is quite obvious that the limited attack on the Ukrainian thermal power plants on the 7th month of the “National Military District”, after which there was no continuation, was purely demonstrative in nature. Plus, after the defeat near Kharkov, it was necessary to somehow smooth out the impression on the "electorate", who unanimously voted for United Russia. As for the economic feasibility of integrating Ukrainian regions into Russia, the author can engage in his speculative constructions as much as he likes, but any part that remains of Ukraine will be used as a springboard to attack what he considered "economically expedient" to annex. And NATO will provide full support here. By the way, the shelling of Lisichansk by Hymers has already begun. Here the "militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" of the LDNR do not recognize and that's it!
    1. kin
      kin 14 September 2022 06: 15
      +5
      Vershinin said in his interview that these blows were to calm the electorate. And also touched upon the oligarchs, that America has long removed the Ukrainian oligarchs from politics, they are quieter than water, etc.
    2. Prometey
      Prometey 14 September 2022 07: 25
      -18
      Quote: Boris Sergeev
      Plus, after the defeat near Kharkov

      Show me thousands, at least hundreds of Russian prisoners and mountains of corpses, then blather about the rout.
      1. Boris Sergeev
        Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 08: 09
        -2
        Contact the SBU, they will show you.
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 14 September 2022 08: 54
          -12
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          Contact the SBU, they will show you.

          But don't you work for ESS boo? Judging by your opuses, a valuable worker. Well paid by Russia's enemies.
          1. Boris Sergeev
            Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 09: 10
            +3
            Judging by your opuses, you simply have nothing to say.
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 14 September 2022 09: 11
              -9
              Quote: Boris Sergeev
              Judging by your opuses, you simply have nothing to say.

              So I hit right on target. bully
              1. Boris Sergeev
                Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 09: 41
                +4
                Hawkeye, there's no other way to say it! I give you another Tsipsoshnik - Zakhar Prilepin:
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                4. Boris Sergeev
                  Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 10: 20
                  +7
                  Prilepin is not allowed to quote. Quoting Oleg Tsarev: "
                  Yes, I want to say that I really have been pumping for quite a long time. In 2013, I spoke in the Verkhovna Rada, saying that the United States was preparing an armed coup in Ukraine, and, as I was later told, spoiled the good relations between Ukraine and the United States. I demanded from Yanukovych to prevent a coup.
                  At the end of 2013, he called for dispersing the Maidan, saying that there would be a civil war in the country. They didn't believe me.
                  After 2014, he addressed many cabinets in the Russian Federation, talking about the need to deal with Ukraine seriously and right now, because otherwise Russia will get serious problems in the future.
                  Since the beginning of the special operation, I have been writing and writing about the need to fight for real, otherwise we will lose Russia.
                  And every time they told me: “Don’t pump it up” ...
                5. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 14 September 2022 10: 25
                  -10
                  Quote: Boris Sergeev
                  Hawkeye, there's no other way to say it! I give you another Tsipsoshnik - Zakhar Prilepin:

                  You are not Prilepin ... You are one of those - Bandera come, put things in order ...
                  1. Boris Sergeev
                    Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 10: 47
                    +4
                    Your herd has long gone to the Russian Spring. He's been hanging around there for a month now.
                    1. Xnumx vis
                      Xnumx vis 14 September 2022 15: 29
                      -2
                      Your herd is grunting from the Bandera pigsties of es bu and ashdod ...
                      1. Boris Sergeev
                        Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 15: 48
                        -1
                        What are you even talking about? When Abramovich is included in every Russian delegation to Ukraine. Ask those you respect who he represents there!
                      2. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 14 September 2022 15: 53
                        -1
                        Chore grunt ... Admit that yes , you tsipsoshnik . Take courage and let's go. Tsilya's mother, from Ashdod, will not scold you.
        2. Prometey
          Prometey 14 September 2022 10: 36
          -8
          Merged quickly. You muddy the waters badly, you will receive discipline from your curators.
          1. Boris Sergeev
            Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 10: 56
            +4
            Will your mediocre curators ever be disciplined? Or were these "challengers" born with tables? "With whom then to work!" Some even kissed Putin, but in the USA they drove away after kissing.
      2. Boris Sergeev
        Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 08: 16
        +8
        Peskov demonstrates the same logic: there are no Russian teachers in the Kharkiv region, listen to Minister Kravtsov! Then why did the UK initiate a case on this matter? And most importantly, don't you consider those teachers that you trained to study under Russian programs and sent back to the Kharkiv region to be Russian? And they've already come for them. In a word, the presidential press secretary voiced the principle of criminals: You die today, and I will die tomorrow.
  4. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 14 September 2022 06: 07
    +27
    I wonder how, without SOLVING THE MILITARY QUESTION, are you going to curb the Nazis of Ukraine and NATO, led by the United States in Ukraine, with an olive branch or something? You need to destroy everything so that later, as now, for example, you do not plug up the holes of mistakes of the military leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense and the political leadership of Russia with the heroism of Russians soldiers. Or are we playing war games like Tank Biathlon and have not yet determined a strategy for resolving the conflict with Ukraine? Putin, as always, as a true intelligence agent, keeps it a secret and, by and large, looks where he will take it out solving problems that he himself created with his indecision and caution ?
    1. Asad
      Asad 14 September 2022 06: 16
      +7
      To neutralize the military resistance of the enemy, it is necessary to capture the territory. And then to support it, where to get the money? After all, it is necessary to pay pensions, even for disabled people. Yes, and the bombed-out infrastructure will have to be restored, Mariupol will be rebuilt for several years. A vicious circle, the United States has scammed us into hemorrhoids.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 14 September 2022 06: 27
        +6
        Quote: ASAD
        To neutralize the military resistance of the enemy, it is necessary to capture the territory

        Necessary for the purpose of the surrender of Ukraine. We are at war not with organizations, but with the State.
        Quote: ASAD
        And then to support it, where to get the money? After all, you have to pay pensions, even for disabled people

        The question is what we take for ourselves, what for the size at the peace negotiations.
        Quote: ASAD
        Yes, and the bombed infrastructure will need to be restored

        where it is economically beneficial.
        1. Asad
          Asad 14 September 2022 06: 34
          +6
          Even after surrender, it is necessary to find a group of troops in the defeated territory, otherwise they will quickly change their shoes. The United States did not leave Germany and Japan anywhere, and with the help of the United States they again became developed states.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 14 September 2022 07: 13
            +3
            Quote: ASAD
            Even after surrender, it is necessary to find a group of troops in the defeated territory

            On the attached
            Quote: ASAD
            Germany and Japan did not leave anywhere, and with the help of the United States they again became developed states.

            laughing We are not Americans, Ukrainians are not Japanese or Germans
            The adjacent territories will live like the rest of Russia
            Controlled are not needed in principle
      2. Boris55
        Boris55 14 September 2022 08: 58
        -4
        Quote: ASAD
        And then to support it, where to get the money?

        Have you forgotten that Ukraine was the richest republic in the USSR?
        With the right leadership, the revival of Ukraine will take 5 years.
        1. Asad
          Asad 14 September 2022 09: 13
          +3
          If it arrived somewhere, it means that it left somewhere. Decreased usually from the RSFSR.
      3. HefeDMB69
        HefeDMB69 14 September 2022 09: 32
        +1
        A very common opinion about keeping. And why, exactly? Who maintains Moldova, Georgia? Etc. All by yourself. There, on the nenka, you stick a drawbar - by morning the tarantass grows! Yes, and pensions are the tenth thing ...
      4. Goto
        Goto 14 September 2022 09: 34
        +2
        Why build? America does not build anything for those with whom it fought.
        1. Plate
          Plate 14 September 2022 14: 59
          +1
          Remember the Marshall Plan. For me, it would be quite nice to repeat it in Ukraine in miniature.
      5. Okakakiev
        Okakakiev 14 September 2022 11: 51
        0
        No need to keep
      6. North Caucasus
        North Caucasus 14 September 2022 13: 43
        -1
        To neutralize the military resistance of the enemy, it is necessary to capture the territory. And then to support it, where to get the money?
        Have the United States built a lot of things in Afghanistan and Iraq? How was Yugoslavia restored? How did the US raise the economics of the former fraternal republics? And after all, damn it, no one is outraged that they are being robbed! And we raised the economy of the Balts and turned out to be damned occupiers! States won the Japanese atom bombed, and now best friends!
        Yes, and the bombed infrastructure will need to be restored,
        The states are stupidly setting up their military bases and not buzzing!
  5. Boris Sergeev
    Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 06: 16
    +7
    By the way, over the past 8 years - since the beginning of the US occupation - Ukrainian oligarchs have lost influence. Even Kolomoisky and Poroshenko have gone into the shadows. They are in command of "tin soldiers", raised by American instructors from the bottom, and sharpened for the unquestioning execution of commands.
  6. nikvic46
    nikvic46 14 September 2022 06: 18
    +10
    Everyone counted: accurate missiles, and all equipment down to each gun, and the composition of the enemy army. But somehow the possibilities of each of our people fell out. During the war, while the fighting was going on on our land, our people collected valuable information, committed acts of sabotage. wondering how to hit the centers where decisions are made. Those units that were in the USSR either disappeared, or they are used for another purpose. It is not necessary to repeat the capture of Amin's palace (although this would not hurt), but until they strike in the rear, there is nothing to think about completing the operation.
  7. Mikhail Drabkin
    Mikhail Drabkin 14 September 2022 06: 49
    +26

    -The absence of a military defeat of Ukraine will be a strategic defeat for Russia.

    —- If you forget about the NWO, then reading the author, Ukraine is doomed by definition. Economically exhausted and energetically bankrupt…. the corpse of the enemy is about to float down the river. And the “regrouping” was a strategic victory!

    —The author believes that the West will inevitably get tired. And winter - only flowers! And in general - the West is about to enter the stage of "all against all." Nonsense: if Russia can adapt to sanctions, then the West will undoubtedly adapt to the new reality.

    —-The most important thing: what will not become Russian, will be the arena for the application of diligent and continuous actions of the West with all the consequences .. Actions of the military, political, ideological, economic.

    —- Once again: the absence of a military defeat of Ukraine will be a strategic defeat for Russia.
    1. saigon
      saigon 14 September 2022 07: 28
      +3
      I will not say anything about the whole west, but, well, but Poland delights me. Zemlitsy from the Germans hotsa and from the Czechs a little and bite off pieces from the outlying lands of the Russians.
      And they want money from both Russia and Germany, I don’t understand why the hell did they forget Austria, did they once participate in the division of Poland?
      Yes, any stub with the name Ukraine will be hostile to us - the conclusion is that the territory must be taken.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 14 September 2022 15: 23
        0
        Well, the Poles are no strangers to how they are divided, so they will survive another division when they get everyone with their stupidity.
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 14 September 2022 07: 28
      +1
      Quote: Michael Drabkin
      -The absence of a military defeat of Ukraine will be a strategic defeat for Russia.

      —- If you forget about the NWO, then reading the author, Ukraine is doomed by definition. Economically exhausted and energetically bankrupt…. the corpse of the enemy is about to float down the river. And the “regrouping” was a strategic victory!

      —The author believes that the West will inevitably get tired. And winter - only flowers! And in general - the West is about to enter the stage of "all against all." Nonsense: if Russia can adapt to sanctions, then the West will undoubtedly adapt to the new reality.

      —-The most important thing: what will not become Russian, will be the arena for the application of diligent and continuous actions of the West with all the consequences .. Actions of the military, political, ideological, economic.

      —- Once again: the absence of a military defeat of Ukraine will be a strategic defeat for Russia.

      But such an army cannot be defeated. Yes, it’s not even about the number of troops. The Afghan war went on for 10 years, cost 15 thousand dead and ended in nothing. dead Yankees, as a result, the Americans were simply tired of fighting and spending money. Are you ready to put in 7 thousand soldiers for joining several regions?
      1. North Caucasus
        North Caucasus 14 September 2022 13: 53
        -1
        The withdrawal of our troops from the territory of the DRA was a signal of the surrender of the USSR! The withdrawal of troops from the territory of the outskirts will also mean the surrender of Russia. If we talk about the price. Russia should not leave where it came from at all! Where the Russian flag was raised, there it should not fall! And after all, Nikolay the first was right! Gorbachev lowered our flag and country everywhere. Therefore, leaving the outskirts will mean a great shame for Russia.
    3. your1970
      your1970 14 September 2022 11: 59
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Drabkin
      The author believes that the West will inevitably get tired. And winter - only flowers! And in general - the West is about to enter the stage of "all against all." Nonsense: if Russia can adapt to sanctions, then the West will undoubtedly adapt to the new reality.

      The aluminum and chemical plants of the EU are especially adapting to reality, they simply close and that's it ...
  8. Uncle AU
    Uncle AU 14 September 2022 06: 57
    +12
    Ukraine as a state should not exist. There is only a military solution, there are no others. If our leadership leaves Ukraine statehood, it will be such a bomb for our future generations, in a couple of years, which the Bolsheviks never dreamed of when creating the Ukrainian SSR.
    It will be a war again, but with an enemy armed to the teeth who will take into account all his mistakes, I won’t be surprised if NATO acquires and uses nuclear weapons and will gladly help.
    So only the complete destruction of Ukraine as a state by military means, followed by the entry of the liberated territories by regions into Russia.
    1. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 14 September 2022 07: 32
      +5
      Yes, Ukraine, as a state, should not exist, or it should remain at a minimum size. The thing is that Ukraine can only be either part of Russia, or as a separate state - but an adversary of Russia. There is no third. Even if we "liberate" Ukraine from the Nazis, put some kind of "Medvedchuk" at the head of the state, in 20-30 years everything will return to normal.
      1. Valery Bordukov
        Valery Bordukov 14 September 2022 08: 29
        +1
        I bet. Suppose no U. 1. People will remain and the underground can be created.2. In its place will come Poland Moldova ... the whole east of Europe. They won't let you live anyway.
        1. HefeDMB69
          HefeDMB69 14 September 2022 09: 38
          +1
          Yes, that's right. And, therefore, the war will last for thirty years, until the sides are completely exhausted. And then, if China decides on lend-lease for Russia. Our military resources will be exhausted, as in WWI, in three years.
          1. Valery Bordukov
            Valery Bordukov 14 September 2022 09: 59
            -6
            It is necessary for tactical nuclear weapons to burn out the clearing of TVD, so that it would not be habitual for others. And there will be a dead zone. Like Chernobyl. There is no other way out. You can't re-educate them.
            1. Plate
              Plate 14 September 2022 15: 04
              +2
              Quote: Valery Bordukov
              And there will be a dead zone. Like Chernobyl. There is no other way out. You can't re-educate them.

              What is this, a proposal for genocide?
              1. Valery Bordukov
                Valery Bordukov 14 September 2022 15: 31
                0
                Why genocide. The zone where there is infection - they do not fight there. TNW means reading so.
                1. Plate
                  Plate 14 September 2022 15: 38
                  0
                  The entire range of available conventional weapons is not used against Ukraine. Nuclear weapons are the last argument.
                  1. Valery Bordukov
                    Valery Bordukov 14 September 2022 15: 40
                    0
                    Interestingly, the United States is already specifically hinting at the destruction of the Russian Federation. And what to sit with the Berdans when 5 million UkrovPsheks and others will be trampled. You need to create a dead zone.
              2. runway-1
                runway-1 14 September 2022 15: 38
                -1
                Yes, it is the most and is far from the first. Such is the unenviable prospect from the commentators of the chauvinist "liberators" ...
    2. North Caucasus
      North Caucasus 14 September 2022 14: 01
      +1

      So only the complete destruction of Ukraine as a state by military means, followed by the entry of the liberated territories by regions into Russia.
      In general, as Zhirinovsky said. Abolish Ukraine as a state and make regions of the Russian Federation instead! It is impossible to leave any piece of Ukraine. Otherwise, this piece will be under the control of the Anglo-Saxons. We see this feint with independent countries on the example of our fraternal republics and countries of the social bloc. There will be no independent countries under capitalism! Only competitors or within the sphere of influence. Our naive burdock Misha hoped for friendship, peace and help from the West! Thank you! Peace, friendship and help from the West received and ate! Enough of these rakes! hi
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 14 September 2022 20: 20
        +1
        Misha was far from a burdock. He purposefully, as a competent and disciplined agent of the bastards, brought down the USSR and received his pieces of silver in full. Earth Judas glassy.
  9. Ros 56
    Ros 56 14 September 2022 06: 57
    +14
    However, it is worth noting two important facts. Firstly, such methods can hardly be expected in the current realities. Secondly, as time has shown, even they could not completely cure the patient.

    The author, stop lying, the NKVD found very effective levers to combat Bandera, far from liberal, but bringing them to life.
    Everything could be solved if this bald corn, by the name of Khrushchev, did not give Banderva such an indulgence, but practically freed them from punishment with all the consequences.
    And the above tables of a drop in the level of economic indicators are quite correlated with the psychological portrait of Bandera with its inability to independently seriously develop economic programs and remaining at the level of Ragul thinking - grabbed, stole and vtik.
    1. your1970
      your1970 14 September 2022 12: 03
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      The NKVD found very effective levers to fight Bandera, far from liberal, but bringing them to life

      Judging by your post - the Wehrmacht was "kindergarten, trousers with straps" - they beat him up in just 4 years. But the Bandera people are strength (aha-aha !!) - it took 12 years ...
      THREE times longer than the Wehrmacht crushed ...
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 14 September 2022 15: 18
        +1
        They searched for an antidote for a long time, but in the end they found it. After all, we thought they were normal, but it turned out not to be what we actually see now.
  10. Gardamir
    Gardamir 14 September 2022 07: 06
    +14
    The author calls for the end of the special operation, and he has no money either.. Appoint me the governor-general of the liberated territories and I will find the money.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 14 September 2022 10: 25
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      The author calls for the end of the special operation, and he has no money either.. Appoint me the governor-general of the liberated territories and I will find the money.

      Well, if you only introduce a 25% per capita tax. But in general, it’s possible, and how the Spaniards gave every Indian a tag for taxes paid. regions such as Dagestan and Chechnya have multi-billion gas debts, and Russians pay all these debts. So in the end, the population will pay for everything.
    2. your1970
      your1970 14 September 2022 12: 06
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      The author calls for the end of the special operation, and he has no money either.. Appoint me the governor-general of the liberated territories and I will find the money.

      Will you also need the right to hang?
      Of them, their own power of the grandmother could not knock out ....
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 14 September 2022 20: 26
        0
        We have a moratorium on the UK. The liberated territories, in theory, will become part of the Russian Federation. Kamrad got excited. In the current conditions, he will not find money there.
  11. avia12005
    avia12005 14 September 2022 07: 13
    +12
    This is a normal conclusion. Katz offers to surrender. You give NATO near Belgorod.
  12. fiberboard
    fiberboard 14 September 2022 07: 16
    +14
    Strange, the author gives an example in the article that the industry of Ukraine belongs to the oligarchs. And in Russia, who does it belong to? After Putin came to power, we have a caste of billionaires, and by some coincidence, these are friends and acquaintances of Putin. In addition, they are mostly Jews for some reason. The author, so how do we differ from Ukraine in this? This is the first. And secondly, if we leave even some piece of the former state of Ukraine, no matter who commands it, it will always be a threat not only to the annexed territories, but also to Russian civilization itself. Do not enclose them with any wire, at least with some kind of fence, they will always strive to take back the territories and crush the state of Russia. And there are enough people who want to help them in this. Therefore, you need to fight to the end, and then remember the term - their deportation and resettlement throughout Russia. There are enough descendants of former Bandera in Siberia, and they are already ordinary Russians.
    1. HefeDMB69
      HefeDMB69 14 September 2022 09: 40
      -1
      There is still a difference. We have ROA, and they have UNA-UNSO.
    2. Garik Gorkin
      Garik Gorkin 14 September 2022 12: 35
      -3
      The oligarchs appeared before Putin. Yeltsin's oligarchs (Abramovich, Deripska, Friedman, Aven, etc.) are pro-American, they work for the collapse of Russia and are the fifth column. Putin removed some of them (Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Gusinsky, etc.).
      And Putin's oligarchs work for Russia. Rotenberg oversaw the construction of the Crimean bridge. If other structures were engaged in construction, then the budget would be plundered, and there would be no bridge.
      In general, I am against any oligarchs, I think that they should not exist.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 14 September 2022 20: 30
        -3
        And you sing the praises of the "hero of capital labor" to the oligarch, judoka and devoted friend. Oh well.
  13. parusnik
    parusnik 14 September 2022 07: 26
    +10
    however, the complete denazification of Ukraine by military means is a very dubious scenario for Russia.
    Oh how! The author, first of all, would you explain why the military-economic union in the form of the CIS did not take place on the territory of the former USSR. The West does not need a competitor. Everything was done so that Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Moldova would leave the Commonwealth. They formed their own GUAM, although it does not work, but the main thing was done, the shaky unity was destroyed. And the idea was not a bad revival of the USSR, on new principles with the preservation of a single economic space. It turned into dust. And everyone is broken one by one. In different ways and in different ways. The economic potential that the republics inherited from the USSR has been turned into dust. And the real goal of the West, no, is not Ukraine and Russia, and not the admission of the creation of a new union of the former republics. It does not matter what it will be, capitalist, socialist.
  14. Russian Patriot
    Russian Patriot 14 September 2022 07: 26
    +19
    Does this article justify and justify the "regrouping" near Kharkov? WE DO NOT NEED A VICTORY?
    Russia's military victory will not be able to change this.

    Why did our guys die then (not only now, but throughout the war)? Have you ever seen how the insane "storm" of Kharkov was carried out in February? It's just Grozny95 version 2.0!
    And it's no better now. A lot of equipment was abandoned. Several colonels were taken prisoner.

    Only further advance along the Black Sea coast, in order to control the Black Sea and the presence of a land corridor to Transnistria, can be attributed to the really necessary military tasks. A number of other regions may be of some value, however, the complete denazification of Ukraine by military means is a very dubious scenario for Russia.

    Well, you try to tell the Kharkiv residents who received Russian passports. I'm sure they'll go nuts knowing they "are a dubious scenario". Imagine how cool:
    - for Ukraine they are traitors;
    - for Russia (according to a respected author) - a dubious scenario.
    Moreover, by striking at CHPP-5, Russia showed that it can very easily make Zelensky not a donor, but a recipient.
    And, in my opinion, this is a brilliant victory for Russia, which potentially opens up very great opportunities.

    It was a one-time action. In order to divert the attention of Russians from the disaster at the front.

    Here is such a "BRILLIANT VICTORY OF RUSSIA".

    It's just funny to read this article. It is designed for TV adepts.
    The continuation will be released, I'm sure, when the shelling of Belgorod begins.
    The author will attach a photo of the city and write
    For us, this means that we need to think 1 times before “attaching” certain areas. It is necessary to do this, looking back at the strategic and economic value of the regions.

    Why do we need this Belgorod? And take Kursk.
  15. Vincent price
    Vincent price 14 September 2022 07: 27
    +12
    The author lives in February 22? The Armed Forces of Ukraine are about to begin to decommunize Belgorod, and a person is talking about corridors to Transnistria. I would laugh if I weren't a citizen of Russia.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 14 September 2022 08: 51
      -8
      will receive nuclear weapons in Kyiv
      1. Vincent price
        Vincent price 14 September 2022 11: 46
        +1
        Another red line?
    2. Plate
      Plate 14 September 2022 15: 11
      +1
      Prior to this, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not carry out any full-fledged operations from the controlled sections of the Ukrainian-Russian border. Why suddenly start now?
  16. Mixweb
    Mixweb 14 September 2022 07: 29
    +14
    For us, this means that we need to think 1 times before “attaching” certain areas.

    Well, there are articles where we, for the time being, softly, but still hint at the fact that it is no longer worth waiting for the return of Russian lands.
    1. Plate
      Plate 14 September 2022 15: 12
      0
      This is the "opinions" section: absolutely anyone can write. This is a private opinion of a certain person, which he wished to express. Everything.
  17. Quinto
    Quinto 14 September 2022 07: 32
    +8
    No matter how strange it may sound, but it would not hurt us to learn from our “respectable partners”, these toadstools have tremendous experience in solving and creating such problems, divide and conquer .... It is necessary to take away the territories that are economically and strategically necessary and important for Russia, and to carry out NWO on the rest until the complete destruction of its infrastructure and transformation into a miserable enclave that will hang around the neck of the EU. And do not be shy in methods, do not be shy. But while we are doing everything on the contrary, we are crushing the southeast and absolutely do not touch the central and western parts and do not interfere with its integration with Europe safe and sound
  18. certero
    certero 14 September 2022 08: 11
    +13
    How the tone of the articles on the resource is strikingly different from those that were before the start of their own or in February-March.
    Now it turns out there is no military solution. Why did you start then? From any point of view, simply threatening to start hostilities would be much more effective and profitable. At least the partners surrounding us in quotation marks would be much more afraid of the impression that the Russian armed forces created before the outbreak of hostilities.
    A military solution always exists. Defeat the enemy army, stop the enemy's territory, completely suppress the possibility of resistance.
    And here is a completely different question, what for? The country's political leadership has completely given up on explaining what it wants to do at all.
    1. Vincent price
      Vincent price 15 September 2022 16: 43
      0
      Potemkin villages are not only in import substitution.
  19. populist
    populist 14 September 2022 08: 41
    +2
    Making peace with Ukraine would be a betrayal.
  20. ivan2022
    ivan2022 14 September 2022 08: 51
    +7
    "Dear Russians" themselves were unable to restore order in their country. And instead they gouged it in 1991. And now they are screaming that "Ukraine should not exist."

    What should and should not be decided 30 years ago without them. As they say in the famous film: "Kids sit, put on muzzles and be silent." To begin with, and to "raise from your knees" children, learn to give birth, at least, otherwise it will decrease by a million a year. Such that even prolific migrants can not cope.

    In fact, even a military decision is based on the correct management of one's own economy. What we have in the current state of society - - in principle, cannot be!


    And only an anecdote is possible: “You can’t hit Washington, because there are relatives. And let’s go to Voronezh. There are no relatives there.” Already today we see that this is what it all comes down to. You can’t hit Kyiv either, but you can hit Donetsk for 8 years ....
    1. Yuriy1000
      Yuriy1000 14 September 2022 10: 06
      +2
      Harsh words, but fair...
    2. Plate
      Plate 14 September 2022 15: 20
      0
      Quote: ivan2022
      To begin with, and to "raise from your knees" children, learn to give birth, at least, otherwise it will decrease by a million a year.

      This is no longer resolved, apparently. Similar problems in Europe and Japan, the UN predicts an early exit to a plateau in numbers even for China. It also predicts that in the next century and a half, with the same trends, all of humanity will reach a plateau in numbers. This problem goes far beyond the boundaries of a single country, even if it is as big as Russia.
      Quote: ivan2022
      You can’t hit Kyiv either, but you can hit Donetsk for 8 years ....

      Well... about 14 Russians in Donbas were killed in 000 years: we quite rightly consider this to be a very large number. But many more Ukrainians have already been killed. Yes, for one of their counteroffensives, this unfortunate one, they lost, judging by the reports, no less people than in all 8 years of the ATO. So, purely in people, we “reimbursed” everything for them for the Donbass many times over. And it is still unknown what economic consequences will be for Ukraine in the event of the end of (whatever) the NWO, which will be followed by the end of support from the West.
  21. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 14 September 2022 09: 05
    0
    In short, the respected author speaks bluntly - in our inadequate General Staff, they must learn that it will no longer be possible to defeat Ukraine on the battlefield. The time has gone. This means it's time to do what every couch strategist and telegram commander has been saying for half a year - you need to hit on the energy sector of Ukraine. And logistics. And not once, but every day.
  22. Lex_is
    Lex_is 14 September 2022 09: 05
    +4
    Wow.
    It was worth successfully regrouping from the Kharkov region and articles immediately went
    that you need to think 1 times before “attaching” certain areas.


    And can you think before joining, swearing that Russia will not leave, distributing passports, leaving and setting up believers under the atrocities of the Nazis and 15 years for cooperation from the SBU?
    1. Plate
      Plate 14 September 2022 15: 23
      +3
      What's the difference? All the rulers of all the big powers do not care about ordinary people from a high bell tower. What on their own, what on strangers (especially on them).
  23. yuriy55
    yuriy55 14 September 2022 09: 21
    +2
    For Russia, there is no military solution to the situation in Ukraine

    What a strange theory...
    For Europe, a military solution to the situation in Yugoslavia existed, but for Russia in Ukraine - no ...
    Fuck him. Let's go back to the beginning and read the condition of the problem...
    Russia must put an end to the new formation of Ukraine or get into the noose itself ("Anacondas").
    This can only be achieved by military means (at the suggestion of Korotchenko), by offering millions of Ukrainians to leave Ukraine and go to Europe, because the Zelensky gang creates unacceptable conditions for life on its territory.
    And one more (his) thought. Targets that could weaken Ukrainian power should be considered acceptable for missile strikes.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 14 September 2022 09: 48
      -11
      Quote: yuriy55
      Let's go back to the beginning and read the condition of the problem...

      On December 15, 2021, we submitted our "proposals" to NATO:

      "The non-deployment by NATO countries of their armed forces and weapons on the territory of all other European states in addition to the forces that were already on this territory as of May 27, 1997."

      In simple words - NATO shoo beyond the borders of 1997.
      This is our goal and we are only at the beginning of the journey. Ukraine is only the first stage.
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 14 September 2022 10: 37
      +2
      Quote: yuriy55
      For Russia, there is no military solution to the situation in Ukraine

      What a strange theory...
      For Europe, a military solution to the situation in Yugoslavia existed, but for Russia in Ukraine - no ...
      Fuck him. Let's go back to the beginning and read the condition of the problem...
      Russia must put an end to the new formation of Ukraine or get into the noose itself ("Anacondas").
      This can only be achieved by military means (at the suggestion of Korotchenko), by offering millions of Ukrainians to leave Ukraine and go to Europe, because the Zelensky gang creates unacceptable conditions for life on its territory.
      And one more (his) thought. Targets that could weaken Ukrainian power should be considered acceptable for missile strikes.

      You don’t confuse Yugoslavia and Ukraine. Yugoslavia was already morally ready to be divided into independent countries, its territory is smaller, NATO’s potential is higher.
  24. ivan2022
    ivan2022 14 September 2022 09: 24
    +2
    Quote: Lex_is
    Wow.
    It was worth successfully regrouping from the Kharkov region and articles immediately went
    that you need to think 1 times before “attaching” certain areas.


    And can you think before joining, swearing that Russia will not leave, distributing passports, leaving and setting up believers under the atrocities of the Nazis and 15 years for cooperation from the SBU?

    For some, the wind is always in the back, and for some dancers, not only the attached lands, but also their own eggs interfere.

    We can only yell "stop feeding these ..." and "equip Russia" through the division of the USSR. And the West is now successfully using the former republics for the military and economic struggle against Russia.
  25. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 14 September 2022 09: 32
    +1
    For Russia, only a military solution to the issue is possible. The fate of Russia today is decided on the battlefield, and not on the price of gas or electricity. If there is no understanding of this, then the fate of Russia will be tragic.
  26. faterdom
    faterdom 14 September 2022 09: 40
    +1
    The title of this article is kind of weird.
    Military measures are the first and necessary component of demilitarization and denazification.
    And it cannot be opposed to something, say, diplomatic and economic measures of influence.
    On the contrary, without it, the voice of diplomacy "thinner than a squeak", like a mosquito, squeaks somewhere, unpleasantly, but okay.
    And already on the basis of military measures, the result we need is molded, at least in diplomacy, at least in the economy, and in such areas as religious, worldview and educational.
    And then they got it wrong: "Military measures cannot achieve results!"
    And without them - to achieve?
  27. Kuziming
    Kuziming 14 September 2022 09: 51
    -1
    Some additions:

    First, the terms of the equation:
    1. Germany is not self-sufficient in providing food.
    Therefore, it is interested not only in obtaining carbohydrates and electricity, but has long laid eyes on the Ukrainian black soil.

    2. Yes, the ideology of Anti-Russia will be the main one in the West.

    Solutions to the problem:
    Let's simplify the equation by replacing EU with "Germany".

    1. Germany physically captures Ukraine, as in 1919 and 1941. Even then it was not for long. According to anyone, the complete annexation of Ukraine by Germany usually takes place in the conditions of a world war, which is unlikely to please anyone today.
    2. Russia and Germany divide Ukraine. This has happened more than once, why not use it again. You can return to the borders of 1941, as one of the options. The status of western Ukraine, as this territory will be called, is being discussed.

    Conclusions:
    1. A non-military solution lies in the plane of negotiations between Russia and Germany.

    2. Attempts to give subjectivity to the Kyiv regime are counterproductive.

    3. The US, Turkey and Poland will interfere with the negotiations and help the Ukrainian regime inflict maximum damage on Russia. Negotiations with these players will not lead to a settlement taking into account Russia's interests. Only our complete defeat will suit them.
    1. futurohunter
      futurohunter 14 September 2022 10: 45
      -1
      Kuziming
      A non-military solution lies in the plane of negotiations between Russia and Germany

      You are not looking there. Today's Germany - ugh! Puppet. Hitler jumps nervously in his infernal cauldron, and Bismarck's bones turn over in his coffin.
      It is possible to negotiate the fate of Ukraine only with the United States - the real puppeteer of Western Europe
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 14 September 2022 20: 43
        -1
        That is how
        It makes no sense to negotiate with the authorities of a country that voluntarily destroys its economy for the interests of others. There, the EU bureaucrats decide everything, read the Masons.
  28. Heaven
    Heaven 14 September 2022 09: 53
    +1
    It is interesting how the author imagines life in the annexed territories, when on the other hand there is a group of 700 armed to the teeth, which can strike anywhere. It is necessary to build a fortified area along the entire border, a triple line of defense and keep a million soldiers under arms. And then they will constantly hit with artillery and MLRS. And any line of defense can be broken through.
    1. Plate
      Plate 14 September 2022 15: 26
      0
      This is where the 700-strong group, armed to the teeth, will stand? The United States, China and ... well, that's all.
  29. Maks1995
    Maks1995 14 September 2022 10: 02
    +1
    If you think about it, it's tight.
    naturally, after the 90s, and after the 14th, and now there is a decline ... You yourself understand why ...
    Similar processes were going on in Russia, only earlier, yet Russia is a little ahead of Ukraine in tendencies to be richer, more populated ...
    But even there, in 19-21, there was an increase in overall production.
    All these "lard will run out, sugar will disappear, black earth will be sold, there is no gas of its own, it will freeze and die" puffed and disappeared.
    Maybe that's why they started Z, for which they were preparing from the age of 14 .. (according to the Goblin's video)

    Therefore, of course, it is necessary to hit the CHPP, but it can hardly be called a "brilliant victory for Russia"
    because right after the 24th, Ukraine - and so the "recipient".
  30. anclevalico
    anclevalico 14 September 2022 10: 18
    -1
    Interestingly, the author, logically, an increase in output always reduces the cost of goods. Here we have increased the production of electricity and at the same time, it is constantly becoming more expensive. How so? Maybe it's better to go back? And yes, otherwise than by military means, the problem cannot be solved. Especially after the Crimea. The sooner the author realizes this, the better. Some say that you don't even have to go to Donetsk for this, it's enough to live in Belgorod for a couple of weeks. Very intelligible.
  31. ivan2022
    ivan2022 14 September 2022 10: 20
    +4
    Quote: Boris Sergeev


    On February 24.02, the President explained this in detail.

    The answer is clear, everything is clear and obvious. The Soviet Union in the late 80s of the last century weakened, and then completely collapsed. "

    And what did you understand from the "detailed explanations"? That NATO missiles will reach us? Did you understand that there are as many kilometers from Vilnius to Moscow as from Kyiv to Moscow and the Baltic states have been in NATO for a long time? And no one seems to care...

    And that the President in the early 2000s signed cooperation agreements with NATO and what we have happened during his presidency?

    Did you understand why Russia "fought for the Minsk Agreements" for 8 years, while Ukraine was building fortified areas?

    And the USSR was something like a natural phenomenon, which either strengthens or weakens, or was the USSR even in the 80s (although weakened), but still the third economy in the world with a population of almost 300 million?

    And how is it that Russia has not weakened now, but on the contrary, it has been "rising from its knees" for 20 years, but for some reason it has become either the 5th or the 6th economy?

    Did you understand why the "weakened USSR" even in 1988 took 26th place in the ranking of the countries of the World in terms of living standards, and "unweakened Russia" and Ukraine today share places after number 60 and are next to Colombia?

    Or maybe it's not about the USSR, and in general "it was not about the reel ...", but that you didn't understand something?
    1. Boris Sergeev
      Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 19: 53
      -4
      You would ask Putin these questions, you are quoting him. He told us that the whole point is political will: if it is not there, then oblivion sets in.
  32. Glagol1
    Glagol1 14 September 2022 10: 25
    +1
    If we calibrate their infrastructure, the striped ones will supply them with 300 km missiles and then they will be under threat: Crimea, from the word all, incl. Bridge, Bryansk, Kursk, Orel, Voronezh, Rostov, etc. It is clear that we will shoot down most of the launched ones, but those 20-30% that will reach - this will be enough to the throat. I think that's why they didn't beat them, as an unspoken agreement, we don't beat them, they don't give anything beyond the dot-y. Now, after the Kharkiv disaster, there may be an escalation. Perhaps unpredictable.
  33. futurohunter
    futurohunter 14 September 2022 10: 42
    0
    the author clearly speaks on the Ukrainian side ((
    It’s a no brainer that it’s not enough to take the territory, but something must be done with it. As for the population of Ukraine, the practice of political propaganda shows that with skillful propaganda (remember at least the collapse of the USSR, and the same Ukraine), 10-15 years are enough for the worldview of the population to change dramatically.
    Obviously, Russia will get a neglected territory with destroyed infrastructure and minefields, in which billions will need to be invested. But, has anyone ever given up territories voluntarily? They fight for every piece of land, even if it is at least 100 times lifeless. And the land of Ukraine is rich.
    Another question: how long will the NWO last, and at what point will it stop? There is still nowhere to go! We will have to fight either to the bitter end (liberation of the territory of Ukraine), or until some kind of consensus is reached with the opposite side and a demarcation line is drawn. The conflict tends to turn into a sluggish one in the long term. Part of the territories will join Russia (including the Kharkiv region), the other part will remain with Ukraine. Perhaps the western regions will still be chopped off by the Poles. Another scenario, though unlikely, is the spillover of the conflict into a pan-European one, and not necessarily Russia-NATO. Europe has enough internal contradictions, and it is no stranger to "all against all" wars - they have been going on in Europe for centuries.
    You can talk as much as you like about the "military solution", but the war is on, and you can't get away from it. It’s just that the “Ukrainian issue” will not be solved with the leadership of Ukraine
  34. Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 14 September 2022 11: 04
    0
    In short, the author is a defeatist and proposes to recognize the war as lost and capitulate. Understanding what comes next is easy enough. Who offers surrender at all times is called the same.
    R.S. Well, now bleating about cunning plans and "this Ukraine is not needed" will begin - I had no doubts.
  35. Kuziming
    Kuziming 14 September 2022 11: 10
    -1
    Quote: futurohunter
    Kuziming
    A non-military solution lies in the plane of negotiations between Russia and Germany

    You are not looking there. Today's Germany - ugh! Puppet. Hitler jumps nervously in his infernal cauldron, and Bismarck's bones turn over in his coffin.
    It is possible to negotiate the fate of Ukraine only with the United States - the real puppeteer of Western Europe

    I repeat my opinion, there is no non-military solution with the United States in the current conditions. They are ready to negotiate options for dividing Russia, if anyone does not understand.
  36. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 14 September 2022 11: 20
    +1
    Among other things, it voiced the thesis that the population of Ukraine, to put it mildly, is heterogeneous in its political and ideological views. Russia's military victory will not be able to change this.

    In fairness, the majority of those present here still caught the moment when, in our own society, the Communists occupied the majority in the State Duma, and the "Yabloko" had their own "almost 8%". And where is it all now? Political biases are manageable if they work on it.
    Moreover, the more trap - the more problematic in the socio-political terms will be the regions

    We have already burned ourselves in the western regions - taking them to our place is like eating the liver of a polar bear. The local population is overly reactive and difficult to assimilate, they are historically European oriented. This trend may be blurred over time, but you should not take more than you can carry at the moment. At the moment, it is not worth taking frankly Western regions (with some exceptions).
    It is also necessary to understand that in the presence of a real threat, in the most extreme case, the government of Ukraine can be evacuated outside its borders and carry out its activities aimed at destabilizing the region indefinitely.

    Oh, these governments in exile are very rarely effective - and usually in conditions where the leader of such rights - is an electorally compromising charismatic. Zelensky is not the case, like his entire team. It would be the London government of Poland - well, they would seethe, drank grants, ruin the papers and quietly turn the shop.

    Such a direction of the author's thoughts cannot but be alarming in the current conditions. It should be understood that if Ukraine is preserved as a state, no one will forget the history of the last six months and 8 years there - and as a sovereign state it will be the second Poland - and in the conditions that we would leave Nikolaev and Odessa in its composition, we will get in the neighborhood this is the very "Intermarium", when the Poles will take under their actual or legal control and ~ 30-32 million of the remaining Ukrainian demographics and these very "old broken enterprises", which in ten years will become new and not broken, and arable land and other-other. And also the people united with them in the ecstasy of Russophobia and the desire to make money.

    Until February 24, we had some options, after February 24, in my opinion, there were no options left.
    If we don't want deja vu after a while, then we need to close this issue and no longer play this "beautiful house with many apartments". Everything should be under one flag.
  37. Rorshah
    Rorshah 14 September 2022 11: 26
    +1
    Heh, have you begun to prepare the electorate for the end of the NWO? Are the Ukrainians ready to stop?
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 14 September 2022 12: 27
      -4
      where will they go
  38. hangar200
    hangar200 14 September 2022 11: 48
    +1
    In my opinion, the title of the article and its content seem to be in some dissonance. And then, no one is going to solve the problems of Ukraine by military means. Today WE are trying to solve the problems that have arisen for our country by military means. And in general, Ukraine did not have tons of problems. Problems in the West. And the West is trying to resolve them, using Ukraine as a tool.
  39. Okakakiev
    Okakakiev 14 September 2022 11: 48
    -1
    You know what to do launch rockets
  40. Okakakiev
    Okakakiev 14 September 2022 11: 49
    0
    Military + other solutions. The name is false
  41. klimalekc
    klimalekc 14 September 2022 12: 44
    0
    Leaving at least a small piece for Ukraine is dooming our future generation to another war. There is currently no other solution other than a military one.
  42. odometer
    odometer 14 September 2022 13: 15
    -1
    The decision was made even before the CBO, I think so ... Until they voice it, many will not like it. But we will swallow. bully
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 14 September 2022 14: 13
      -1
      what solution?
      1. odometer
        odometer 14 September 2022 14: 55
        +1
        If I had known the buyback, I would have lived in Sochi. I don’t know, I’m at a loss ... But watching the course of the NWO and the movements and verbiage at the top, I’m convinced, accepted and decided ...
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 14 September 2022 15: 06
          0
          Well, I live in Sochi))) And Putin often comes here
          1. odometer
            odometer 14 September 2022 15: 12
            +2
            Ask HIS DARKNESS in your own way... Otherwise, the premonitions are not good... smile
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 14 September 2022 15: 14
              0
              he only creates traffic jams)))
  43. Gado
    Gado 14 September 2022 13: 16
    +1
    I fundamentally disagree with the author. That's why I didn't read the whole article. History has proven that nothing is impossible. When the war ends and normal people in normal regions go to work and build their new home, it will be important for them to have a good salary and peace of mind, i.e. the economy will take precedence. This is where the key to the future of the Russian regions lies - normally living and working people will attract people from other regions. And, as for me, here the biggest difficulty will be - to establish a normally working economy.
  44. BAI
    BAI 14 September 2022 13: 17
    +2
    however, the complete denazification of Ukraine by military means is a very dubious scenario for Russia.

    And there is no other way out. Even if only 1 square kilometer remains from Ukraine, guns will be located on it, which will fire at everything within a radius of 70 km. If only to cut it off from the borders of NATO and make it an enclave within the Russian territories.
  45. Mraka
    Mraka 14 September 2022 14: 06
    +2
    How long to wait then?
    There they are storming the red estuary. They say there will be a powerful attack in Zaporozhye soon. So you can talk about the Crimea as well.
    Are you sure that time works for us?
  46. Leontrotsky
    Leontrotsky 14 September 2022 14: 10
    -3
    I agree with the author of the article. To attach all the stolen goods is to shoulder additional costs on your neck. The best option is to put Westerners and near-Western regions on the neck of Europe. But here, if part of Ukraine maintains independence, it will be difficult to control it. NATO entry, Russophobia and, quite possibly, the deployment of nuclear weapons on independent territory will begin again. In this case, there is only one way out - the leadership of the Russian Federation should clearly state its position - in the event that Ukraine uses nuclear weapons, both Ukraine itself and the states will receive a retaliatory nuclear strike
  47. Boris Sergeev
    Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 14: 35
    -1
    Notable note on Brief:

    Experts: the jingoistic segment is not included in the real management processes in the country.

    What segment is included then?
  48. Puzoter
    Puzoter 14 September 2022 15: 32
    0
    Stupidity and provocation. We ourselves started the war, now there can be only one solution - only victory. Any other options will be capitulation, followed by the implementation of the Western plan to dismember Russia and reduce its population to 50 million.
  49. place
    place 14 September 2022 15: 38
    0
    Quote: BAI
    however, the complete denazification of Ukraine by military means is a very dubious scenario for Russia.

    And there is no other way out. Even if only 1 square kilometer remains from Ukraine, guns will be located on it, which will fire at everything within a radius of 70 km. If only to cut it off from the borders of NATO and make it an enclave within the Russian territories.

    And why, then, cannons and missiles do not fire from the Balts, who are ALREADY in NATO, and why does this not bother anyone? As it was rightly noted here, to Moscow from the Baltic states is about the same as from Kyiv.
    The case smacks of an obscene agreement ..... on the topic of clearing and surrendering the territory of Ukraine to someone else. In Ukraine, they talk about the formation of a New Israel. True, this is sheer conspiracy theory and speculation .... But just in the subject of the Author's article. Which is written on the subject of "how to turn it all off, otherwise you are already tired." And what ? Such a title would fit better than the author's.

    BUT, after all, a special operation differs from a war in that the first can be ended as it was started, and the second cannot be ended unilaterally. The very essence of the article is that the NWO has grown into a War. Initially, they wanted, probably, the best for everyone, but it turned out as always. Got it.....
    1. Boris Sergeev
      Boris Sergeev 14 September 2022 16: 00
      -1
      Meanwhile, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are shelling the Belgorod region. The governor evacuates the inhabitants of Krasny Khutor. They are ready to accept them at Rublyovka))
  50. netzer
    netzer 14 September 2022 16: 45
    0
    With enough MODERN tanks and MODERN doctrine - many things become possible.