NWO in Ukraine: what is happening and what to expect next

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When discussing the NMD, one of the most pressing issues for Russian society is the slowdown in the offensive of the allied forces and the prolongation of the conflict. This fact has become the subject of all kinds of speculation on the information front, both from the Ukrainian media and from domestic opinion leaders. At the same time, the insufficient number of troops in Ukraine is cited as the reasons for the "delay", and some kind of abstract "mobilization" is proposed as a logical solution to this problem.

In this article, we will try to figure out how things really are, whether mobilization is really a solution in the current situation, and when we should expect some significant shifts at the front.



What are the risks of mobilization?


To begin with, let's abstract from all other issues and clearly articulate why the participation of conscripts in the NWO is a bad idea.

A similar solution was announced in an article by Viktor Biryukov "When will Russia start to fight for real?"

Only announced mobilization can significantly strengthen the Russian army, but already in the Russian Federation ...

Mikhail Remizov, president of the Institute for National Strategy, wrote back in May about what mobilization should be like.
... to return to the question of the use of "draft" units in the conflict zone.

Turning to stories. During the military campaign in Vietnam, the greatest danger to the United States was not so much the war itself, but the social explosion within the country. It was conditioned by sending all the same conscripts to the war, not all of whom were eager to fight.

Such people either openly criticized and sabotaged the draft, or, having returned from hostilities, joined the ranks of the anti-war movement, often becoming its most odious and active participants.

A vivid media example of such “sabotage” is the position of the famous boxer Muhammad Ali, who was even deprived of his title because of his refusal to serve in the US armed forces.

Stepping on this rake in Vietnam and analyzing the experience of later wars (Iraq, Afghanistan), the United States developed a number of techniques aimed at destabilizing order within the country, which to some extent opposes them.

The methodology is simple - through all sorts of "committees of soldiers' mothers" and "opinion leaders" to incite anti-war sentiments within the country, using, among other things, the strongest argument against which it is difficult to object - the real grief of parents who lost their sons, who did not make war by their conscious choice and for a combination of reasons (physical and psychological) they were poorly adapted for this war.

We all witnessed how mature our enemy was in the development of this technology and how massive the attack on the information space of Russia was. Through various information channels, a flurry of not just abstract slogans, but the most specific directive instructions fell upon the wives and mothers of servicemen.

This fact shows that our enemy was preparing to use similar tactics against us, therefore, mobilizing and attracting conscripts will be a great gift for him.

It must be clearly understood that the involvement of conscripts is a last resort, since it involves huge risks in the social sphere. This is especially true for the first months of the NWO, when the reaction of society is still not fully understood.

Why did Russia withdraw troops from Kyiv?


Save people by losing land - land can still be captured. Save the land by losing people - you will be left without people and without land.

It must be clearly understood that there are tactics of warfare that allow a deliberately weaker army to defeat a stronger enemy. The most striking example is the Vietnam War.

The superiority of the United States was colossal, but the tactics used by the Vietnamese made it possible to inflict unacceptable damage on the Americans through the use of guerrilla warfare methods.

In the case of NMD, the most disadvantageous for Russia will be the use of artillery ambushes by Ukraine, coupled with the actions of the DRG.

When advancing, the army is forced to move in relatively large columns along the roads, and each "ribbon" in this case becomes a very good target for any artillery weapon. Unfortunately, this is exactly what we saw at the beginning of the NWO - in one of the previous articles, I already mentioned that it was a huge mistake to move in columns to how measures were taken to suppress enemy artillery.

In order for the ambush tactics to work as efficiently as possible, it is necessary to achieve maximum secrecy of fire weapons, and the best helper in this is the "brilliant green". It largely neutralizes Russia's advantage in artillery and strike aviation, and also improves the efficiency of Ukrainian DRGs.

As long as there are leaves on the trees, it is extremely undesirable for Russia to conduct large-scale offensive operations.

Good news for us is that the "Vietnamese" scenario in Ukraine does not work all year round. And in mid-October, when the leaves fall from the trees, the situation will change dramatically - Russia will be able to realize its advantage to the fullest extent possible. It is during this period that new offensive operations should be expected.

As for Kyiv and its environs, this area is extremely favorable for ambush operations against the accumulation of equipment. It did not seem expedient to take Kyiv, and it was simply pointless to stand still under attacks from ambushes, exchanging at an “unfavorable rate”.

Russia on the edge


Article “The attack cannot be stopped. Prolongation of the conflict in Ukraine" the following thesis is given:

In my opinion, the Russian military is pushing the enemy to the limit.

Indeed, this point of view is very popular ... in Ukrainian public. On our part, I still want to call for at least a little respect for our opponents from NATO.

Let's assume for a moment that the front really froze due to the fact that the Russian army (10 times destroyed) is bursting at the seams and resisting the enemy at the limit of its capabilities. The military analysts of our partners report the situation to the political leadership. Having huge resources, this same political leadership simply throws an “extra” cent on the scales that are frozen in balance, and now the Russian defense has been broken through in several directions. On CNN, columns of Russian prisoners are shown, and Scholz and Macron, smiling, drink champagne and make payoff demands to Putin - gas contracts at extortionate prices for Russia, etc.

However, it is worth turning on the TV and this is not observed. On the contrary, Scholz, for a moment - the leader of the locomotive of the European Union, at a venerable age, like an errand boy, rushes between various authorities, trying to solve the problem with turbines. Not Putin or Lavrov, but Scholz. The question is - why is that? What happens, does he need more? Weird. Somehow it doesn't fit. But let's move on.

Gas prices. They do not look like bondage for Russia. Breaking records. Norway, obviously, as an act of demonstrating the unity of the "entire civilized world" refuses to sell gas to Europe at a discount (for the sake of the "idea").

And there are two options here. Either Strelkov-Girkin and a number of journalists are indeed much more informed about the real state of affairs than the entire military leadership of NATO. Either the situation is far from what is declared. Which of these two options is more realistic, let each reader decide for himself.

Mutual grinding


In the previous chapter, we analyzed the situation by the method of "by contradiction". Let's add some observations to this and check the consistency of a number of theses:

... in fact, the war turned into a positional one, with the daily grinding of each other by means of artillery and missile weapons.

Regular attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to attack outside the DPR speak of quite acceptable and free existence ground army units of the enemy.

Yes, SVO at the moment is indeed positional in nature for the reasons stated above.

However, other claims are highly controversial. If you try to analyze what is happening, based on the video from the scene, you can really find videos that capture the successful actions of the Ukrainian side, basically these are all the same actions from ambushes, explosions on mines, the use of various fragmentation munitions by dropping them from civilian quadrocopters and etc.

If, from the whole variety of videos, you try to “blind” something in between, then this video will look something like this - a forest belt, along which trenches stretch for hundreds of meters. The manpower of the enemy swarms in them, mainly with manual weapons. The ground around, as a rule, is pitted with Russian shells, which, apparently, should tell us about the deplorable state of Putin's military machine and problems with the supply of ammunition.

A similar scenario is shown, as a rule, from three angles.

The first angle shows a soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with his head buried in the ground, waiting for an artillery shelling.

The second angle is the shelling of Ukrainian positions by Russian artillery, filmed from the Russian drone.

The third “perspective” is a video filmed by the surviving Ukrainian military, where they stand in a crowd in a shed and explain the reasons why they decided to leave their positions and, as you might guess, “free existence” is not included in the list of these reasons.

But it includes constant, incessant shelling (artillery, Tanks, ATGMs, aviation) from the Russian side, as a result of which the Ukrainian side suffers losses sufficient for entire units to lose their combat capability and the ability to continue to perform even such primitive combat tasks as sitting in earthen burrows.

Based on this, I personally do not quite understand what kind of "free existence", and even more so - "mutual grinding" are we talking about? The question is rhetorical.

1 soldiers for the Armed Forces


Since the beginning of the military operation in the information theater of military operations, our "non-partners" have been actively promoting the idea of ​​recruiting a million-strong army by Ukraine.
I propose to soberly assess the likelihood of this event occurring.

Officially, there are still about 40 million people in Ukraine. However, even during the political fuss in Ukraine, a number of figures voiced information that these figures do not correspond to reality, and not least due to corruption - you can draw up a beautiful budget for dead souls. Everything is classic.

Gordon, in one of his issues, claimed that as of 2017, “well, if 27 million” live in Ukraine. Kolomoisky, on the other hand, claimed that 2014 million people left the “square” from 2017 to 8. Suppose that Gordon got excited, and at the time the conflict began in Ukraine there were 35 million people. An additional 10 people have fled the country since the start of the conflict, according to the UN. That is, the population of Ukraine at the moment is about 000 million.

It may be objected to me that some of the Ukrainians who lived (temporarily or permanently) in other countries returned to Ukraine in order to join the armed forces of Ukraine.

In this regard, I consider the story of the Ukrainian patriot-blogger Mykola very informative (let's call him that so as not to advertise this person). This character emigrated to the United States long before the events began, where he served in the US Army. At the same time, he led a YouTube channel, on which, as befits a true patriot of Ukraine, he praised everything Western and scolded the “scoop” with or without reason. After the events of 2014, Mikola's "patriotic issue" sharply worsened. There was a lot of content about the strength of the US Army and the weakness of Russia, discussions on near-military topics, but on February 24, the incredible happened.

It would seem that what can be expected from a patriot of Ukraine who has military training according to NATO standards, is suitable for service by age and, using his media resources, actively procrastinates the topic of a million-strong Ukrainian army. The most logical assumption is that this person will get on a plane and go himself to contribute to the cause, about which he talks so much. But, alas, fate decreed otherwise.

Approximately a month after the start of the CBO, Mykola goes through all 5 stages online (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance) and ultimately experiences a catharsis, the climax of which is a monologue that our hero finally realized himself as an American of Ukrainian origin, and not Ukrainian. And he made a difficult decision, "to be a good father and an American, but a bad Ukrainian."

Why am I talking about this character - yes, because exactly the same catharsis happens at about the same time in tens of thousands of his brothers all over the planet. Someone recognizes himself as a Pole, someone as a Frenchman, someone as an Englishman or a Canadian.
What is striking in this whole story is the naivety with which these characters massively believe that only they are so smart that they could come up with such a beautiful story, while others cannot come up with anything like that, and the desired million will be typed without them.

The question arises - how are things going with the recruitment into the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of Ukraine itself? I propose to turn to Ukrainian sources of information and get acquainted with the fact that says Dr. Komarovsky about recruitment into the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Anyone who is interested can listen to the video in its entirety, but here I will limit myself to short exposures.

1. “Terrible corruption” flourishes in the military registration and enlistment offices – the question arises, who uses the services of this corruption? Another fact is also noteworthy. On the example of Ukraine, we can see the difference between a truly democratic society and a totalitarian regime. The people of Ukraine signaled about corruption in the military registration and enlistment offices, and the authorities immediately responded. Apparently, having failed to defeat corruption, the Ukrainian state decided to lead the process by simply legalizing "bribes" by imposing bail for men to leave the country. At the same time, they carried out demonstrative arrests of “private traders” who “dumped” on the ground, drawing up exit documents for smaller amounts.

2. Komarovsky reports on the recruitment of people aged 55+ with serious chronic diseases into the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The fact that such facts really take place has also been documented in other videos. For example, for the presence of "age" people among the captured SU fighters in their reports paid attention Shary.

Conclusions


What conclusions can be drawn from the above? You should not get carried away with jingoistic patriotism, but also you should not believe everything that is said from the “other side”.

In my opinion, Ukraine is extremely limited in human resources. In addition, the very fact of increased attention of Ukrainian "colleagues" to this issue is already a method of manipulation, when it is proposed to discuss any subject, "slipping" the question of how important it is in general.

But in itself the amount of "manpower" is not a decisive factor, although it is capable of exerting a certain influence.

The total advantage of the Russian army in truly important elements has not gone away. These elements include:

- attack aircraft;
- the number of artillery and the quality of the preparation of calculations;
- the ability to strike with cruise missiles at important infrastructure facilities and places of accumulation of enemy forces throughout the entire depth of enemy territory;
- the number of armored vehicles.


Do not forget about the achievements of Russia:

1. The capture of Mariupol and the creation of a bridgehead on the Black Sea for a further offensive on Odessa.

2. The United States spent 8 years on the creation of national battalions, their training, armament and training. All this was destroyed. Stocks of expensive and complex weapons were also lost by Ukraine (some were used with varying degrees of effectiveness, some were destroyed by air strikes in warehouses and caches, some were captured by ours as trophies).

3. The stocks of "Bayraktars" and weapons for them were knocked out.

4. Oil refineries, elements of railway infrastructure and repair facilities on the territory of Ukraine were destroyed, which together greatly reduced the ability of Ukraine to form and maintain any large motorized formations.

5. A significant number of Ukrainian air defense and aviation systems were destroyed - losses that Ukraine will not be able to compensate for in any way.

6. The economy was undermined. In fact, Ukraine has become a weight on the leg of the West. And ahead of winter.

And this is a very interesting question, how the situation will develop - at whose expense Ukraine will warm up and with what? How will gas be distributed within the "united Europe"?

The mobilization of Russia is also traced in the direction of attack UAVs (Drone production plant in Dubna near Moscow switches to work in three shifts; Sources report the signing of an agreement between Iran and Russia on the supply of attack drones).

Personally, I consider this component (strike drones) the most important for success in Ukraine, and I am glad that there are signs that our leadership is seriously addressing this issue.

The resumption of the active phase should be expected closer to October.

However, it is important to take into account that one should not concentrate only on Ukraine - an additional recruitment into the ranks of the RF Armed Forces is not at all for this.

There are a lot of unplayed cards, both by the West and by us:

– China and Taiwan (an issue that could one day make the world switch to hieroglyphic news reports);

– the situation in Serbia;

- Transnistria;

- Nagorno-Karabakh;

– Poland and western Ukraine;

– the gas valve and the consequences of the crisis for Europe;

- Republic of Belarus;

- political opposition within Western countries (Germany, France, the Baltic states).
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  1. +36
    30 August 2022 04: 25
    This fact shows that our enemy was preparing to use similar tactics against us, therefore, mobilizing and attracting conscripts will be a great gift for him. It must be clearly understood that the involvement of conscripts is a last resort, since it involves huge risks in the social sphere. This is especially true for the first months of the NWO, when the reaction of society is still not fully understood.
    This fact shows, first of all, that the current government of Russia did NOT prepare for the INFORMATION WAR, did NOT train the fighters of the information front, and in the media space formed journalistic sycophancy with huge budget money, which was only engaged in PR of the current government. The priorities in the information sphere were set in such a way that Russian journalism would be engaged in "licking" the current government, and NOT in an information war with external opponents that had become apparent. Hence the "gifts" of Russia's gold and foreign exchange reserves to the United States-NATO, hence the outflow of Russian capital through various offshore companies and private businessmen, hence the conversion of drug mafia money from drug trafficking in Russia from rubles into drug dollars.
    1. -14
      30 August 2022 04: 31
      Excellent review and analytical article!
      The author explains a lot in an interesting and correct way, answering topical questions both in relation to the theater of operations in Ukraine and in relation to mobilization by the authorities in Ukraine and Russia.
      1. +21
        30 August 2022 07: 33
        However, it is worth turning on the TV and this is not observed.

        By the way, this is a good recipe for so many problems. You can also charge water cans from it.
      2. +57
        30 August 2022 07: 47
        You can throw stones at me, but I will never believe that a brilliant withdrawal from Kyiv was originally planned, the usual shelling of our territories for the 6th month of successful hostilities, an altruistic gift of 300-400 billion dollars of our gold reserves ...

        Then what is it? Unrealistic planning? A stunning intelligence failure? No, no one will admit it. We are all over the place!
        1. ban
          +2
          30 August 2022 08: 45
          Istanbul -1, then 2 and 3.
        2. +15
          30 August 2022 10: 13
          Quote: Stas157
          No, no one will admit it.

          Have you ever seen someone confess to their epic failures? Any state? The United States won in the first Iraqi 155 people lost .. Do we believe? And Israel, in which no one ever dies with a database? And France in Africa? And the classic from the "helmet (already dead) of Tymchuk" There are no losses! "There will be no such confessions, we have already screwed up once, voicing the losses in the first month in 1351 people .. EVERYTHING there were no more such mistakes! Everyone is always and everywhere secret and for decades After a while, the veil opens a little, but no more.
          And what happened with the departure from Kyiv? A banal failure in a rotten agreement on a military coup in Ukraine, on which, in fact, the entire NWO was based..WE were thrown! That's all .. And by the way, this agreement began to be implemented much earlier, namely with the elimination of the leaders of the LDNR, starting with Motor and Givi and ending with Zakharchenko .. These people simply would not have negotiated with Kyiv because of their intransigence towards them, they could not they will continue to cooperate with those who would have come to power as a result of a military coup in the 404th, but all sorts of Khodakovskys, Tsarevs and others are very even .. Why was such an agreement prepared? Everything is just GROSS! It would be orders of magnitude cheaper than what today's operation resulted in .. In addition to the costs of maintaining the database, the costs of restoring everything and everything were added, and the losses in people and equipment after the first stage greatly adjusted the entire SVO ..
          1. +10
            30 August 2022 11: 42
            Yes, it seems that everything is so. Putin specifically screwed up, he thought about how it would be in Crimea, but now he simply does not know what to do next. He and his degenerates simply do not know how to act now. They only know how to stupidly sell resources. It seems that the next agreements will begin by winter. How sad it is ..
            1. 0
              30 August 2022 12: 05
              It's good that VLOOKUP is the exact opposite of what you said.
            2. -1
              6 September 2022 14: 00
              Quote from: danil23518
              Putin specifically screwed up, he thought about how it would be in Crimea, but now he simply does not know what to do next.


              And why did Putin succeed in Crimea?
              Like you are smarter than the president and the General Staff to boot?
              Or maybe you are a telepath?
              You need to be more modest.
              Yes, partly true, the bet was on a coup in Ukraine, on the removal of Zelensky. Overestimated Square Square, yes.
              After all, if the local oligarchs and generals were really subjective and could independently make decisions and implement them, it would be so.
              Because the peaceful resolution of contradictions, first of all, was beneficial to the Ukrainian side, which the local oligarchs and generals could not understand. But they turned out to be just helpless puppets, as, indeed, the politicians of the European Union.
              In the long run, however, this is even better for Russia's interests.
              There will be no agreements with the Western elite, they are no longer possible, the point of no return has been passed.
              What can not but rejoice.
              1. -1
                6 September 2022 18: 16
                As you can undoubtedly see for yourself, both the General Staff and Putin "mistaken" in assessing the combat capability of the Armed Forces and the ability of Ukrainians to resist. infallible" Putin did not know this
          2. 0
            6 September 2022 19: 24
            Have you ever seen someone confess to their epic failures?

            This requires a third force that would help in confessions, as happened with Boris Jones, he had parties with drinking alcohol with his friends, after he urged people not to have parties because of the pandemic, suddenly someone leaked information and photos from parties, Boris I had to justify myself to the country and eventually resign. This is how they have constant rotations of officials, unlike the Russian Federation, where officials sit for decades in positions and do not strive, do not try, do not answer for anything, but why if your chair is up to the grave.
            1. 0
              6 September 2022 20: 19
              There is an absolute irremovability of power in the British, and people like Johnson are ordinary talking heads who don’t solve anything at all .. you can’t understand this, but these are your problems ...
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                1. 0
                  7 September 2022 21: 44
                  Against the background of the British head of the Way, it’s just a green goldfinch, and the Canadian Trudeau look at him like shit .. Yes, and 16 years old Merkel is also nothing .. but I understand EDPN it is like that ..
          3. 0
            14 September 2022 12: 36
            Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! good
        3. -5
          3 September 2022 09: 38
          Quote: Stas157
          You can throw stones at me, but I will never believe that a brilliant withdrawal from Kyiv was originally planned, the usual shelling of our territories for the 6th month of successful hostilities, an altruistic gift of 300-400 billion dollars of our gold reserves ...


          The most likely explanation for what is happening is the following:

          the leadership of Russia, relying on incorrect data and making erroneous conclusions, and also having no idea about the goals pursued, developed a strategy of behavior that brought Russia into the position of Zugzwang.
          moreover, both on the Ukrainian front and on the international one.

          the finale of this whole story will most likely be a change of administration in Russia with possible turmoil to accompany it.

          the process is painful for the people (the elites will flee abroad with stolen overwork), but in the potential will be a step towards the continued development of civil society in the future.
          1. 0
            6 September 2022 18: 10
            A repetition of 1917 ... Well, I look like others and there are no options already.
          2. -1
            6 September 2022 20: 06
            Russian leadership relying on incorrect data

            In general, the boyars are to blame, but the fact that the boss who has unorganized intelligence is most likely incompetent, this cannot be, in your opinion.
            In fact, it doesn’t matter which switchman is to blame, if there are mistakes, then the boss needs to retire, give way to the young.
            By the way, the BBC released a video, the journalist decided to compare whether the business qualities of the director of the company and the prime minister match, and went to the recruiting agency for advice. You can get some ideas from this video.
            The capitalists hire directors through a recruiting agency that conducts interviews, tests, studies the psychotype and selects the right person from many applicants, Rogozin would definitely not be recommended to lead Roskosmos.
            It also turns out that there is a big difference between psychotypes - a manager and a leader. The director and the prime minister must be the leader, whose task is to ensure the work of staff, for example, the leader would have ensured the implementation of the notorious "May decrees". The manager shifts the paperwork. An example of a leader is Lukoshenko, as he talks to bureaucrats, they already turn pale. But the guarantor manager from here all these strange things with non-fulfillment of decrees. Dad's "May decrees" would have been fulfilled. And the spirit would be enough to immediately move on to the second stage of the NWO, so it is.

            developed a behavior strategy that brought Russia into the position of Zugzwang.

            Zutzwang is not excluded. The SVO should have been carried out in 14, the titushki would have been easily dispersed. And Kharkov was pro-Russian.
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      4. +17
        30 August 2022 09: 14
        Quote: Tatiana
        Excellent review and analytical article!

        Didn't find answers to the following questions:
        And this is a very interesting question, how the situation will develop - at whose expense Ukraine will warm up and with what? How will gas be distributed within the "united Europe"?

        I assume that Russia will continue to supply gas to the EU through the Ukrainian GTS even if Ukrainian UAVs bomb Kremlin Crimea.
        1. +2
          30 August 2022 15: 18
          Quote: yuriy55
          Didn't find answers to the following questions:
          And this is a very interesting question, how the situation will develop - at whose expense Ukraine will warm up and with what? How will gas be distributed within the "united Europe"?

          Do you want to get everything in ONE article?
          Have you ever written articles yourself? I don't think so and never will.
          No article can answer absolutely all questions, and even the goal of such an author is not set! Because the the article must have a limited number of printed characters, the limit of which is set by the editors of the publication.
          The topic is developed and expanded by the site participants in their comments to this article.
          1. 0
            4 September 2022 14: 41
            Quote: Alexander Vorontsov
            There are a lot of unplayed cards, both by the West and by us:.....

            It is strange that the author did not notice Central Asia, Tajikistan and Kazakhstan under his nose, where the "partners" are trying to blow up the region, let me remind you that the border with Kazakhstan is not really guarded, and there are no forces to guard.
            PS
            minus is not mine, plus is mine wink
        2. -4
          30 August 2022 15: 52
          Quote: yuriy55
          Didn't find answers to the following questions:
          And that's a very interesting question. how the situation will develop - at whose expense Ukraine will warm up and with what? How will gas be distributed within the "united Europe"?
          I assume that Russia will continue to supply gas to the EU through the Ukrainian GTS even if Ukrainian UAVs bomb the Kremlin Crimea.

          Yes, it will! Otherwise, it will no longer be CBO, but Russia's direct declaration of a HOT WAR to Kyiv and NATO countries. In the meantime, this war with NATO is being waged informally - that is, without declaring a HOT war by Russia to NATO countries and NATO countries against Russia. But it all comes down to it!
          At the same time, Russia has backlashes for maneuvering in negotiations and contacts with the EU and NATO countries.

          We are at war not so much with the EU and NATO countries as in the USA! This is now the US PROXY war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine. And the EU and NATO have EXTERNAL control from the US.
          To defeat Russia in this war with the USA, you need to hit the United States! It is there that the GENEPAL decision-making centers are located!
          Are you personally ready for this - Russian strikes on the United States? Is Russia ready for this?
          Not yet.

          Therefore, Kyiv will steal Russian gas if the EU allows it! Or it won't happen if, as a result of the SVO, Russia liberates the entire territory of Ukraine from the Nazi Kyiv regime. and take control of it.

          And about how gas will be distributed within the "United Europe" - this is generally a question not for the author and not for Russia! These issues are being addressed as they come up.
          I will only say one thing - these problems will be solved in the EU by the EU countries among themselves, like spiders in a bank - that is, rightfully strong.
          From here, analysts give their forecasts that either NATO will fall apart or the EU will crumble. But I believe that at the same time, the United States will try to keep the situation under its control with all sorts of enslaving "subsidies" corresponding to them. Namely.

          First of all. Washington needs full administrative colonial control and external control over the EU countries.
          And secondly. NATO is a tool for the United States to fight with someone else's hands to protect its globalist national interests in the world.
          Therefore, Washington will, to the best of its ability, CONTAIN the EU and NATO.

          I think I have answered your questions.
      5. -3
        30 August 2022 09: 20
        The article is interesting, the point of view is justified, thanks to the author
      6. +10
        30 August 2022 10: 00
        Quote: Tatiana
        Excellent review and analytical article!
        The author explains a lot in an interesting and correct way, answering topical questions both in relation to the theater of operations in Ukraine and in relation to mobilization by the authorities in Ukraine and Russia.

        Regarding points 4 and 5, can you elaborate? Which plants, refineries and railways were destroyed and which air defense is missing? The author apparently does not know that the West is already supplying air defense systems to Ukraine, which is why our aviation does not fly further than the front line?
        1. KCA
          -3
          31 August 2022 06: 33
          And why should our aviation fly further than the front line? Conduct carpet bombing? KR for pinpoint strikes fly 300, 600, 2500 km, as it were, far behind the front line
      7. -7
        31 August 2022 04: 51
        Russia uses 15% Army on the ruin
        WHAT MOBILIZATION? WHAT DO YOU CARRY? collect a portfolio to school mother's warriors

        and I expected MUCH worse, just MUCH considering the input data of the sanctions, the most powerful fortifications, the terrorist tactics of warfare by the Ukronazis, full assistance from the West to the Kyiv national regime, etc., etc., I thought everything would be MUCH more complicated and Russia with one palm and on tiptoe (these are the words of a general Pentagon) unwinds the best army in Europe and yes the ruin was the best army in Europe. WAS

        how impressed I am with the professionalism of our army and the General Staff
        and the stupidity of couch experts who carry such diarrhea that it's time to close your ears

        topwar due to ukrobots and these hysterics a la the crazy shooters Girkin turns into a trash heap and this is very sad because there are few such resources
    2. -3
      30 August 2022 05: 52
      media say? Do you know whose they are? The question is rhetorical.

      On August 27, in the evening, a sabbath was arranged on the state Russian television. Nostalgic Neo-Trotskyist liberal imprisoned by the strange elite of the United States journalists. It was admitted that while the GKChP was trying to defend the USSR, Politkovsky, his associates in the eyes and TV studios were busy stuffing cameras, studio equipment and money. Attention! By the embassies of Western countries and safe houses! And they worked by submitting a picture from the field, and the Tiwi announcers allegedly, with their displeased appearance, showed their rejection of the events to keep the Empire within the framework of the will of the people / a referendum on the preservation of the USSR.

      Continue criminal acts what did this 5th column do?

      As a result: the media, in the vast majority, belong to the beneficiaries of the neo-Trotsky-liberal coup in the Empire with their appropriation of the assets of the Empire.

      The media act in the interests of the owners / beneficiaries, what is not clear?

      Events of the February spring? Elementary, amigo, a priori - it (spring) is not in the interests of the shareholders of '91. So?

      And here you are, media!

      By the way, even now they are shitting how they can call the people to the barricades (commanders betrayed us bey xxxx save Russia, then they frantically demand to bomb, throw corpses at the Thames and Mississippi ...)

      And this is included in the analytical articles of the West and reports on the table of the local guarantors and legislators, and they react. Piv CCP thought? Deliveries. On the nose, a direct collision of the block and us on the square. In the interests of the again strange Neo-Trotskyist Liberal elite of the USA. And whose sips, corrupt, this is done. We are media, media
      1. +40
        30 August 2022 07: 35
        Author, I will help you, since you are afraid to say:
        behind Vietnam was the mighty USSR with allies.
        1. -7
          30 August 2022 10: 14
          Quote: Civil
          Author, I will help you, since you are afraid to say:
          behind Vietnam was the mighty USSR with allies.

          This is so. And who is behind Ukraine? Purely logically, after a year of such a war, there will be such losses on both sides that they will not be up to the war
          1. -6
            30 August 2022 12: 44
            This is exactly what the USA is trying to achieve. And, it seems, they will achieve it. Putin played along with them in everything.
        2. -4
          30 August 2022 10: 21
          Quote: Civil
          The author, I will help you, since you are afraid to pronounce the mighty USSR behind Vietnam with allies.

          Mmm... allies?
          China? Which began to drive weapons to Afghanistan a few years later?
          ATS? To put it mildly, far away and in fact, this is again the USSR ...
          Who else? request recourse
          1. +8
            30 August 2022 10: 54
            The USSR had no allies? Are you confusing him with modern Russia?
            1. +2
              30 August 2022 12: 04
              Quote: KERMET
              The USSR had no allies? Are you confusing him with modern Russia?

              Well if you think allies - countries on whose territory it was necessary to keep the GSVG, South-GV, TsGV and up to OKSVA - then yes, then the allies ... and where there were no troops, then the allies immediately became shaky (all kinds of Egypt) ...
              The only trouble is that then the United States had 162 allies - in terms of the number of military bases ..
              And yes, as soon as the troops were withdrawn, our allies ran out in a week

              So that even the Republic of Ingushetia, even the USSR, even the Russian Federation have the same allies - the army and navy
              1. +10
                30 August 2022 12: 43
                Not only bases and armies are important, but also the economy, the USSR could rely on the military and economic forces of the Warsaw Pact countries. NATO had to reckon with this. Russia ... yes, she only had an army and a navy left
                1. 0
                  30 August 2022 13: 26
                  Quote: KERMET
                  The USSR could rely on the military and economic forces of the Warsaw Pact countries. NATO had to reckon with this.
                  oh yes ... especially NATO had to reckon with the Romanians ....
                  I repeat - these allies were allies exactly until the moment the troops were withdrawn ... Despite all the damage
                  Even the United States were more allies to us in 1941-45 - albeit for money, they supplied equipment.
                  It is not necessary to consider the banal FIELD as allies.
                  1. +8
                    30 August 2022 14: 02
                    The same can be said about the homogeneity of NATO, but you must admit that such allies are better than their complete absence.
                  2. +3
                    30 August 2022 15: 54
                    Do not hesitate, the allies of the United States will also be their allies until the withdrawal of American troops!
                2. KCA
                  -2
                  31 August 2022 06: 47
                  The USSR fed the entire CMEA, and the ATS was laughter and nothing more, only the GDR had the only aircraft, the rest were a laughingstock and nothing more, they all fell under Germany during the Second World War, were there powerful armed forces in Poland? Without the SGV, Poland would instantly fall down
              2. +1
                30 August 2022 19: 54
                Do you think the US is wrong?
                All allies up to a certain point, until the "main" ally can dictate its will, backing it up with military force.
                And so then ... the world loves the winners.
                That is why in this NWO Russia not only must, but is obliged to win.
              3. +1
                31 August 2022 01: 52
                sv1970:

                — The GDR was a real, devoted ally.

                —- Read on the forums of the Germans from the USSR and the Russian Federation - officers of the GDR write there. The GDR was reliable in economic and defense terms. In October 89, a visit to the celebration of the 40th anniversary, Gorbachev betrayed the GDR .... Hungary, Czechoslovakia opened the border with the FRG and Austria ... "These are your internal affairs .."
      2. -4
        30 August 2022 10: 43
        Quote: Geo73
        how the GKChP tried to defend the USSR

        If not for the State Emergency Committee, maybe the Union would have continued to exist. When such people are already trying to do something ... Enemies are not needed!
        1. -3
          30 August 2022 13: 03
          And that it was necessary to iron Moscow with harp? Preventing a coup is the business of the Office, and through the efforts of Lieberman, she was the instigator. The GKChP did its part of the job, removed the recruited "general secretary" from the levers. And the fact that the performers played their part is not at all their fault.
    3. -3
      30 August 2022 09: 37
      You have a STRANGE combination of cause and effect, don't you???
      Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
      the current government of Russia did NOT prepare for the INFORMATION WAR, did NOT train the fighters of the information front, and in the media space formed journalistic sycophancy with huge budget money,

      And suddenly, bam..
      Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
      hence the conversion of drug mafia money from the drug trade in Russia from rubles into narcodollars.

      belay belay belay
      In your opinion, if we were preparing for an information war, then drug mafia ( belay !!!!!) would transfer from dollars to rubles???
      You would have entered a crop failure of zucchini in my yard, yeah .. This government was not ready for the information war ....
    4. -3
      30 August 2022 09: 41
      Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
      NOT trained fighters of the information front,

      Can you describe how you see the "warheads of the information front"?
    5. 0
      30 August 2022 10: 31
      I understood that if all sofa pensioners from the site would receive subsidies from the budget, would receive titles corresponding to their status on the forums, then the Yankees would not dare to impose sanctions. one question, which of the languages ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbof our enemies do you speak without a dictionary and Google translator?
    6. -1
      31 August 2022 04: 37
      what nonsense
      all Russian propaganda in the west was blocked and an iron fence was put up
      what the hell is servility if THERE is a total dictatorship that they deprive their citizen journalists of citizenship for reporting that does not correspond to THEIR agenda

      Are you going to WRITE RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA IN THE WEST?
      and the Anglo-Saxons, having UNLIMITED MONEY, that is, bankers who staged a war against Russia, having an unlimited budget, because they stupidly print money, would they sit and watch you yell from TV screens IN THE WEST?

      you are either a schoolboy of 12 years old or you don’t understand what you are talking about at all
      from the word at all

      propaganda is working on OUR territory and it can be seen how OUR population relates and how it is informed and what kind of support is going on. and this is the result of OUR propaganda on OUR territory
      on THEIR territory will be THEIR propaganda. and stupidly no one will let you climb there
      everything else that you wrote there is the squealing of a liberal hysteria that has nothing to do with reality
    7. Maz
      -3
      31 August 2022 09: 41
      In general, yes, although we did not hold a candle in the Kremlin, the logic of the slowdown in the pace of the NWO seems more or less understandable to us as a whole. Winter is ahead - and for this period it is necessary to consolidate the success already achieved by trying to integrate the liberated population and the liberated territories into the Russian economy.
      https://t.me/orda_mordora/12973
      And it is this approach for Ukraine that means that they will grind it for as long as it takes. Because they know that they will never reconcile themselves to the loss of five regions - and will rush at Russia until they finally kill it, like the Kherson counter-offensives killed yesterday. And we know they know it.

      Who has more durability in this confrontation? - there are different opinions here, but we would put on a gas station and a grain barn with nuclear missiles. In any incomprehensible situation today it is necessary to put on a gas station and a grain barn with nuclear missiles.
      Ah, yes.
      About “why didn’t they start in 2014” and other retrospective whining.
      Look.

      The launch of the Russian analogue of SWIFT - SPFS - is just 2014, it just hatched there from an egg. Getting to the first place in the world in grains, which allows ensuring food security within the country, is, if memory serves, approximately 2016. Russian non-systemists, who, against the backdrop of a large-scale military operation, could create internal social tension, were rolled up in the IK or kicked out over the hill only a couple of years ago. The difficult situation in the Middle East, in Syria, from where it takes a day to get to Sochi by car - this is 2015, this problem also had to be solved. Plus, all those prodigies that today prevent the West from actively, for real, intervening in a military conflict with us were presented in 2018 (or 2019? We don’t remember, sorry). Sarmat and S-500 only this year go on combat duty, for example. Well, they only started talking about import substitution in 2014, the real dependence on foreign supplies in general for everything at that time was many times higher than the current one.

      On the other hand, the collective West was probably more powerful in 2014 than it is now – without record inflation, without disruption of supply chains due to covid, without highly unpopular politicians, and with a slightly less fragmented electorate.
      In which of the periods - the current or eight years ago - would you yourself decide to challenge the collective West, dear friends?
      If then, then it is good, of course, that you are not driving us.

      [Horde] - native, evil, yours
  2. +26
    30 August 2022 04: 28
    Nothing is happening and there is nothing to look forward to. Everything is according to plan ... And this ... Ukraine and Europe will freeze, and America will be kirdyk. hi
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  4. +15
    30 August 2022 05: 31
    I'm wondering how many of those who shout about general mobilization are themselves ready to fight.
    1. +19
      30 August 2022 05: 46
      Those who "shout" will not be mobilized, the "silent ones" will go.
    2. +4
      30 August 2022 08: 04
      Exactly zero. Moreover, they will run at a gallop from mobilization.
    3. +1
      30 August 2022 08: 54
      Haven't come across these. Screamers themselves do not want to fight.
    4. +6
      30 August 2022 09: 21
      Quote: Dart2027
      I'm wondering how many of those who shout about general mobilization are themselves ready to fight.

      Those who shout about mobilization have already won back theirs. They are in their 70s and 80s...
      And they know that in peacetime it is easier to prepare for war without dealing with the consequences of some kind of catastrophe (for example, arranged with the help of the United States at the ZNPP).
      They do not understand what prevents the defense industry plants from working in three shifts, providing the army with everything necessary.
      They very much doubt the adequacy of the decision of the Commander-in-Chief in relation to those who stubbornly refuse (prevent) from feeding their own army.
      It's all before your eyes ... but you probably poked them out with darts?
      1. -1
        30 August 2022 10: 27
        Quote: yuriy55
        what prevents defense industry plants from working in three shifts,

        The cost of production interferes ...
        After the Second World War, I had to carry out a monetary refund due to the depreciation of the ruble. And this is with the cost of aircraft - like 7 cows, and tanks - a little more expensive than aircraft (which is nonsense in modern times)
        1. +2
          30 August 2022 13: 14
          Whose opinion is this? Where is there a direct indication of a monetary reform due to the depreciation of the ruble? The ruble, in the USSR, was only a means of exchange for goods and services. He couldn't be underestimated. The shortage of these goods had nothing to do with the ruble as a means of exchange. Prices were set by the state, but the purchasing power of the ruble did not change. The ruble was not a commodity and the market approach is not appropriate here. The reform had other reasons and goals.
          1. +1
            30 August 2022 23: 59
            Quote: Essex62
            Whose opinion is this? Where is there a direct indication of a monetary reform due to the depreciation of the ruble?

            Yes, there was such Ioska Stalin a "bunker dwarf." Under his nose, the then Nabibulina, by the name of Zverev, wrote all kinds of canoe - the text is literal:
            "........ The Great Patriotic War of 1941 - 1945 required the exertion of all the forces of the Soviet people and the mobilization of all the material resources of the country. During the years of the Patriotic War, the expenses of the Soviet state for the maintenance of the army and for the deployment of the military industry increased sharply. Huge military expenses demanded the release of a large amount of money into circulation. The amount of money in circulation has increased significantly, as in all states participating in the war. "(c)
            No, they haven’t heard - about the Decree of the Council of Ministers and the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks 4004 ???
            Won what ...
            Quote: Essex62
            . He couldn't be underestimated.

            And the Council of Ministers and the Central Committee were not in the know, so they zababakhali the reform of 1947 despite to your opinion...
            You read - for starters, the resolution itself, and then engage in demagoguery ....
            1. +2
              31 August 2022 10: 00
              And where is the depreciation? An increase in the money supply, which is not a commodity. It had to be cut. And at the same time clean the speculators who profited during the war.
              And yet, answer the question, all of you have bunker dwarfs, to whom are you yours?
              1. 0
                31 August 2022 11: 54
                Quote: Essex62
                And where is the depreciation?

                That is, then the text - didn’t read it again? Understanding that if money is in echelons, then they are not provided with goods - they don’t cost anything - no? ...
                Quote: Essex62
                And yet, answer the question, all of you have bunker dwarfs, to whom are you yours?

                And tired of the demagogues NOT reading LEGAL acts of the USSR and those who undertake to comment on them ..
                Quote: Essex62
                And at the same time clean the speculators who profited during the war.
                - only the trouble is sad - the cards were canceled ... which gave rise to the wildest wave of speculation ...
                Prior to the abolition, card products were sold according to FIXED to military prices. Kopek...
                Store directors reported on money and cards for products. Of course, they stole, but the strict restriction on cards reduced everything to reasonable numbers.
                And the abolition of cards led everything to the fact that a speculator came and bought up the entire store entirely. Wholesale ...
                Having given some kind of loot to the director. After that, the store was taken to the market as a whole, where it was sold at 5-10-15 times the price ...
                The director cheerfully reported on the fulfillment of the plan - clutching money from outbidding in his pocket ... "Citizens came running and bought everything, everything" ...
                And the citizens howled - buy a kilo of millet on cards at the pre-war price or buy it at 10 times the market ....
                And I had to lower prices and try to deal with speculators and store directors ...

                The most anecdote - that there is a bunch of regulations about this, there are reports from the police and the Ministry of State Security, even in post-war films this slips - but that’s all REALLY SURE that the abolition of cards was a boon for the people ...
                1. +1
                  31 August 2022 21: 03
                  Not to "try to fight", but to fully eradicate. They took this director by the proboscis and against the wall. For "In extra large sizes." Cleaned, cleaned and reduced the speculators to a minimum and scared the directors to death.
                  Errors, miscalculations and distortions at any time and with any system, more than enough. Man is not a perfect being. And the fact that some "friends" firmly believe that they are the ultimate truth. And you need to understand the document as its anti-Soviet essence wants to interpret, this is of no use to us.
                  1. 0
                    31 August 2022 23: 15
                    Quote: Essex62
                    They took this director by the proboscis and against the wall. For "In extra large sizes." Cleaned, cleaned and reduced the speculators to a minimum and the directors were scared to death.

                    these speculators spawned a wave of shadow businesses in the mid-1960s and "you to me - I to you" in the 1970s. Which was one of the reasons for the death of the USSR, the total huckstering among the population. The competition for trade universities in the 1980s was steeper than for technical universities. To have a familiar butcher was ten times more prestigious than a familiar poet or scientist. That's why everything went down...

                    And yes, for you personally - since you don’t understand what happened then. Store director
                    Quote: Essex62
                    to Wall. For "In extra large sizes."
                    - did not work. He did not steal, he handed over the cash desk and reporting on time.It could be TO ATTEMPT to press only at the time of the implementation of the wholesale - which is extremely unlikely. If at this moment they did not take it, it is practically clean in front of the Criminal Code.
                    And the speculators also read the Criminal Code of the RSFSR and knew what kind of organized group they give more. Therefore, they did not hand over their director.

                    Quote: Essex62
                    And you need to understand the document as its anti-Soviet essence wants to interpret, this is of no use to us.
                    -yes, I already understood that everything that does not correspond to your ideas about the USSR was not ...
                    There were no monetary reforms, blat, traders, traffic cops, "spines", Resolution of the Council of Ministers and the Central Committee No. 4004, a criminal article for feeding bread to livestock, "through a tuvar expert, a warehouse and a back Cyrillic .." (c), "ensigns are total thieves "(c) one of the ministers of defense of the USSR, the Order of Victory from Brezhnev and the distribution of the Patriotic War in 1985, 22 attacks on police officers in 1972 in order to seize weapons, the adoption of rubber truncheons in the Ministry of Internal Affairs in 1962, the Dzerzhinsky division in Moscow (strange, not? like his own people are Soviet, but against him, just in case, a division in reserve), 3 articles (151,152,153) in the Criminal Code of the RSFSR 1926 for pedophilia and further, further, further ...

                    all this was not - according to you ....

                    You are the main thing NOT read the documents and laws of the times of the USSR - otherwise you will ruin your appetite and start thinking.
                    1. 0
                      2 September 2022 00: 27
                      Did I write that everyone was cleaned out? That's the trouble, that not everyone. That's why it happened, what happened. That's exactly what Dzerzhinka was needed for. But the degenerates could not give the order to disperse themselves. On a Kremlin stool sat, now dead, a pusher of a huckster idea.
                      Many things were not so, but as today, they were not. And I will never think the way you would like. People like you killed my humane and just country. That's right, despite all its shortcomings.
      2. -1
        30 August 2022 10: 38
        Those who shout about mobilization have already won back theirs. They are in their 70s and 80s...

        In the beginning, the USSR collapsed, did any of them, then in the very juice, the foundation of the country, go to a rally for the USSR? No, they thought that they would continue to live like in the USSR and Coca-Cola with chewing gum would be heaps, and they would rake off the dollars.
        And now:
        They do not understand what prevents the defense industry plants from working in three shifts, providing the army with everything necessary.

        Because it was they who ruined the USSR, although it’s always the tagged one who is to blame, they then “repaired the stove”.
        That is why factories do not work today in five shifts, and so on. - The USSR is “no”, “there are no factories” ... they ruined it, and now they don’t understand something.
        1. -7
          30 August 2022 11: 16
          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          No, they thought that they would continue to live like in the USSR and Coca-Cola with chewing gum would be heaps, and they would rake off the dollars.

          Wow ... What thoughtful conclusions ... And where were you yourself, when there in Moscow, one and a half thousand kilometers from the village where the unit was located, a drunken company supported by high officials of law enforcement agencies, led by EBN, who fell from bridge, and no one crushed him under the bridge?
          My comrades and I served in the army and listened to the orders of commanders and chiefs, passing the VVK for dismissal. And they didn’t think about raking in dollars, they were all thinking about the families that lived there, in the distance, without any hope of help ...
          It's people like you who missed everything ... Not unknown uncles and aunts, but you personally with your pimply conscience and boorish manners.
          Correctly they did the pension reform and turned you into dumb slaves, forced to work for a piece of bread to death ... or forced to lick the soles of bourgeois power for a long ruble.
          1. 0
            30 August 2022 11: 30
            And where were you yourself when there in Moscow, XNUMX km from the village where the unit was located, a drunken company supported by high officials of law enforcement agencies, headed by EBN, who fell from the bridge, and no one crushed him under the bridge, carried out a coup?

            Ask your own questions and answer them yourself.
            What kind of stream of delusional consciousness, who fell where?
            Did you go to a rally in defense of the USSR?
            I understand, it’s a shame that they blew the USSR, that boots obediently licked many years of compradors, and now it’s a shame to receive handouts from the master’s table, they kept quiet when everything happened for thirty years.

            Of course, you are offended: no chewing gum, no Coca Cola, no dollars, they deceived so deceived ...
            The truth hurts my eyes...
            1. +13
              30 August 2022 13: 23
              No need to carry nonsense. A law-abiding citizen, the layman is not organized and stands on his hind legs only when the edge is completely. A well-prepared coup from above cannot be stopped. Basically. And the majority understand where everything is heading and even more so.
              None of the rallies would have changed anything. Those who were supposed to prevent the counter-revolutionary coup led it. There was no chance to rally for the USSR. And the force, armed and united, has nowhere to come from.
              And about EBN the real story. Drunk from the bridge, at the dacha he fell face down and blew bubbles. After a slight hesitation, the guard pulled out.
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              2. +1
                30 August 2022 13: 43
                This is not nonsense, but the essence of the problem.
                The post-war generations born after 1945 wanted change, they became the main driver of it, without their tacit desire to have "a normal life, like in the West", "normal jeans", "servilates", etc., no coups happened.
                No one came to the defense of the USSR, since everyone started their own gesheft, someone on a large scale: factories, steamships, someone on the little things.
                And when the realization came to many of what they had done, who is ready to admit their mistakes?
                Neither, everyone around is to blame, liberals, gays, the West, but not me ... "law-abiding citizen"? Funny. There will always be an excuse. Philistines and kurkuli, who in the mass were waiting for it to break off ... a larger piece ...

                Awareness is important, but ... this is not available to the majority, it is easier to look for enemies in others, and send others to defend themselves ... "what could I do?, and what am I, what am I extreme."
                Until now, the impression is that they are fighting in line for sausage at 2,20: if we don’t have time, we won’t get it.

                By the way, I never removed my guilt for not participating in the defense of the USSR ...
                1. +5
                  30 August 2022 14: 38
                  Everything was there. But the majority frankly did not understand that the social system was being changed. The desire of people to have jeans and servilet in no way contradicts socialism. What is apolitical and counter-revolutionary in that, if a person is well-fed and clothed. But the thirst for profit and the implementation thereof, yes, this is a crime.
                  What kind of hard workers, then, were geshefts? Before the fact put. But the fact that the communists surrendered so easily is really a mystery to me. Probably few of them, the true ones, are left. Even at the bottom.
                  And I do not relieve myself of guilt, although I fought for Soviet power in 93. hi
              3. +3
                30 August 2022 14: 43
                Quote: Essex62
                Those who were supposed to prevent the counter-revolutionary coup led it. There was no chance to rally for the USSR.

                Everything is correct. And our special officer warned especially zealous people about the possibility of leaving the army without a pension (or without shoulder straps).
                1. 0
                  30 August 2022 15: 10
                  Duc tagged Lieberman dragged into the Politburo, for the future. And the fact that he did not know about his recruitment is highly doubtful. And Lenya, with some kind of potion, was fed for a reason. Only the zealous had to go to the end. What's a broken career here? Know what will happen in the end. Many of their companies and battalions would have been raised. Cunning bastards hucksters turned out to be. Eh...
          2. -1
            30 August 2022 12: 52
            Nothing to be proud of. we made ourselves, we didn’t expect anything from the state, pensions for sure. Living on 20 a month is so-so fun. But we worked, built, created and did not whine and did not expect that someone owed us something. And we are certainly not dumb slaves, but, judging by the memories, it was your generation that turned out to be dumb.
            1. +3
              30 August 2022 14: 59
              You should expect from this "state", or rather, a group of not aligarhs, as one comrade wrote, but very rich people and nothing. The country needed a Soviet man, the state needed it. He was its basis, it rested on it. Different mentality. It is clear that in the current jungle, there is no other way. All by himself and only for himself. For this, your generation is not condemned. The environment determines being. But you, for some reason, judge.
              1. +1
                31 August 2022 07: 26
                Quote: Essex62
                The country needed a Soviet man, the state needed it. He was its basis, it rested on it.

                Only now it applied to him - so-so ....
                How many died in the war, they didn’t want to count until the end of the USSR ..
                In the army, divisions were engaged in nonsense - such as leveling snowdrifts around the parade ground along a rope or painting grass - and allocate a couple of military units to search for and bury the dead. Yeah, right now ...
                They closed their eyes - "If we do not see, then they are not there!!"..
                Home slogan it was shouting "No one is forgotten - nothing is forgotten!", And those that are lying in the forests / ravines are so, a trifle ...
                And in general, they can be traitors / traitors / deserters, yeah ..
                1. +2
                  31 August 2022 08: 45
                  It was and such, who argues. A bureaucrat is a bureaucrat in any system. Today, search parties are also not funded from the budget or the oligarch's pocket. But for me personally, there is nothing to be offended by that state. They moved from a barracks to a kopeck piece, a pension, or whatever it was called, for the deceased father, paid right up to the 20th anniversary. Until he left urgently. And if I entered the flight school, my mother supported me even before the lieutenant's shoulder straps. It was normal for people. But it was full of twists and turns.
                  1. +1
                    31 August 2022 11: 23
                    Quote: Essex62
                    Moved from barracks to kopeck piece

                    You were just lucky - there are a lot of veterans and now they are living out in barracks ...
                    We have a veteran, holder of the Order of Glory - he lived in a barrack recognized as emergency back in 1970. He died already in the 2000s - and three years later and the barrack collapsed ....
                    The trouble is that he himself had to go and beg in the district committee / district executive committee - they say, according to the statute, I am equated with the GSS, give me a hut ...
                    1. +1
                      31 August 2022 14: 03
                      A cavalier of three Orders of Glory was equated to the GSS. and more than 3 million people have been awarded the Order of Glory 1rd class.
                      1. 0
                        31 August 2022 17: 08
                        Quote: Petrik66
                        A cavalier of three Orders of Glory was equated to the GSS. and more than 3 million people have been awarded the Order of Glory 1rd class.

                        did you try to read? recourse
                        Quote: your1970
                        We have a veteran Cavalier Order of Glory
                      2. +3
                        1 September 2022 09: 39
                        a cavalier and a full cavalier are two big differences.
                      3. 0
                        1 September 2022 12: 08
                        Quote: Petrik66
                        a cavalier and a full cavalier are two big differences.

                        If the order is 1 - he NOT Cavalier of the Order, only after conferring the 1st degree.
                        But if you so desire - then ours was FULL ...
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                    2. 0
                      31 August 2022 21: 14
                      Quote: your1970
                      Quote: Essex62
                      Moved from barracks to kopeck piece

                      You were just lucky - there are a lot of veterans and now they are living out in barracks ...
                      We have a veteran, holder of the Order of Glory - he lived in a barrack recognized as emergency back in 1970. He died already in the 2000s - and three years later and the barrack collapsed ....
                      The trouble is that he himself had to go and beg in the district committee / district executive committee - they say, according to the statute, I am equated with the GSS, give me a hut ...

                      He wrote after all. He is a bureaucrat everywhere. And it was not necessary to beg in the district committee, but with a fist on the table. Under the LIB, veterans were not offended. Some kind of strange situation. I, with the now dead tagged, defended the apartment of the Afghan through the secretary of the district committee, having just returned with the Red Star and Courage. The ministerial one fussed, so they slapped him there along the party line. And the guy was given even more space.
                      1. +1
                        31 August 2022 23: 33
                        Quote: Essex62
                        And it was not necessary to beg in the district committee, but with a fist on the table.

                        walk and bark or beg.
                        And the man could not stand it - to walk and do something for himself ask.And the military commissar had Feng Shui, but there were no relatives at all. We visited him several times from school.
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                        defended the secretary of the district committee
                        - what was supposed to be a person according to the LAW - it was necessary "defend".
                        And grab what "thrown away" in the shop...
                        On the WORDS "Everything in the name of a person, everything for the good of a person" - but in fact the Kursk region (I was there in the 1970s-80s, a field, a boundary. And on this boundary, older boys led a war to show ...
                        On that field, our unit died in the war - the boys said that they found only our things / weapons / equipment - there were no German ones.
                        And when in the spring this field was plowed, then the conscientious tractor drivers carried the plowed skulls to the boundary, and it was purple for the people who didn’t care, they plowed further. And that boundary stretched - laid by skulls - for 2 kilometers ..
                        Was it not possible not to plow that field? Yes, I won’t believe it in my life ...
                        Simple ALL(to the head / party organizer / district committee members / military commissar / tractor operators) - it was on the drum, in a word. But beautiful words were spoken on May 9 ... And everyone saw it and knew that saying this is one thing, but doing something completely different ... And if you say beautiful words, then you will go far, to the district / region / Moscow ...
                      2. +1
                        1 September 2022 09: 14
                        Such freaks who plowed their faces over the remains of warriors. In Russia, in every family, someone did not return from the Second World War. They are bastards in any system. And the party organizer is no exception. And you have to achieve what you set out to do yesterday, now and tomorrow. He is a bureaucrat and a bureaucrat, so as not to let him go. There are no perfect societies. But the Soviet so far was the most just and humane, of all that existed in history. There was no bourgeois in him.
                      3. +2
                        1 September 2022 12: 06
                        Quote: Essex62
                        But the Soviet so far was the most just and humane, of all that existed in history. It didn't have bourgeois
                        and in the NEP? oops ...
                        And about "justice and humanity" - I have already given you a bunch of examples ...
                        In our field there was an obelisk (large stone) on the mass grave of the Red Army soldiers who died in the Civil during the defense of the city.
                        Then in 1975 it was decided to break a forest belt in this place ..
                        They brought a bulldozer and moved the obelisk instead of a hill into a ravine - they leveled the site. Then everyone plowed and planted trees ... without even a symbolic reburial ....
                        Is this fair or humane?
                        Have you seen the film "Office Romance"? A person (honest and decent !!) for 10 (!!!!) rubles of an increase in salary goes to a very ugly act. Suffering - but already 10 rubles increase ...
                        This seems to be humanity...
                        Or those who burned down for collective farm grain - a Hero! And it doesn’t matter that he burned himself, but he saved the grain !! then, it’s true that the grain was rotten due to the lack of elevator space. it or not. The main thing is that the spirit of this formula corresponded

                        And the Brezhnev Order of Victory is so generally naked justice. And then they were surprised - someone's awards were meaningless ....
                      4. -1
                        2 September 2022 00: 02
                        You are repeating yourself. We have already discussed the character of Myagkov.
                        And the NEP, this is the panic and cowardice of Ilyich, who almost buried socialism. There were good people who did not bend, they returned everything to normal. It was just during this period that socialism was unfinished, because there was a bourgeois.
                        And where do you keep dragging nasty things about life in the USSR from? For a long time, apparently, the wormhole has been sitting, if only the negative has been seen. From the family of the repressed, nobles or merchants or what?
                      5. +1
                        2 September 2022 13: 36
                        Quote: Essex62
                        And where do you keep dragging nasty things about life in the USSR from?

                        Haven't you seen this rubbish?
                        They closed their eyes - "Oh, I don’t see, then no !!"
                        And why then be surprised - that the Union collapsed?
                        Half of the country was lying to the other half of the country "How spaceships surf the world's oceans .." and both halves understood perfectly well that one was pretending to be telling the truth and the other half was believing the first.
                        Window dressing - this is that wormhole, one of the many from which the USSR rotted ...
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                        For a long time, apparently, the wormhole has been sitting, if only the negative has been seen.

                        So sorry if from childhood you had to watch all this ballet-hoofed squalor ...
                        Raytop sold no more than 3 tons of coal to one hand. This was enough to heat the house in winter, but people had baths. And then it began .....
                        Those who had barrels of 200 liters - they made baths on gasoline / diesel fuel and stole gasoline / diesel fuel.
                        Those who did not have such an opportunity stole coal from boiler houses that heated high-rise buildings.
                        And so every night from Friday to Saturday I went to steal that coal with 2 buckets.BUY it was impossible to overlimit, I don’t know why and why, but they didn’t sell it to the population.
                        So the entire population of the workers' settlement stole.
                        There was a grandfather in the village (a war invalid, by the way) - every year he went to the harvester on the highway and swept the grain that had flown out of the cars onto the asphalt and the roadside. it was according to documents in collective farms / state farms and sent for surrender to the state. And the medals did not help, they gave it - so as not to lie for 3 or 4 years.
                        And everyone didn’t care - that if it weren’t for that grandfather, it would have stupidly rotted on the side of the road or the birds pecked ..
                        Everyone knew everything very well - and covered their eyes ...


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                        From the family of the repressed, nobles or merchants or what?

                        And this holy.... if he said against what - immediately a label and preferably a bad origin.
                        Like the proletariat exclusively for the USSR, yeah ...
                        Misha Marked was so simple, and the combine operator himself belay
                        Well, blame Lenin and Dzerzhinsky lol lol - they OK nobles natural. Lenin is not even from the poor
                        That's where the main wormhole and anti-Soviet was hiding belay belay belay

                        Z.s. I have an origin from all sides where I found it - a worker-peasant.
                        Great-grandfather was a famous person in the USSR and I am proud of him ...
                      6. -1
                        3 September 2022 09: 01
                        Where did you get that I am. I blame you? Not at all. But after all, such a pathological hatred of the USSR must be implicated in something.
                        By the way, in the film "Office Romance" there is another episode, as a fact of the life of our society, to my liking, when hard workers with inventory in the office of the director of the institute come and spit on her indignation. We are following your orders and do not interfere. Genuine democracy. So what are you, a director?
                      7. 0
                        3 September 2022 12: 51
                        Quote: Essex62
                        I like it when hard workers with inventory in the office of the director of the institute come and spit on her indignation. We are following your orders and do not interfere. Genuine democracy. So what are you, a director?

                        Then you must really like pre-war films. Like "Volga-Volga" ...
                        There always director / chief was a scoundrel, a pest and a bureaucrat ...
                        And I don’t care that such films undermined the authority of directors and engineers in the mass. Taking into account the fact that cinema was the main mouthpiece
                        propaganda .... "In the cinema, the director is a bastard and ours is the same. Or maybe a pest ..."

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                        after all, on something such pathological hatred of the USSR

                        Do you know why Suvorov fired? Because of NO ONE he didn’t say bitter but truthful words about the beginning of the war - everyone sang praises. First to the genius of Stalin, then to the genius of Zhukov, then to someone else ...
                        The people saw that today genius-a tomorrow monuments are removed from the pedestal. And this is regular - each subsequent general secretary chided the previous one with all sorts of semi-censored words.
                        And also "socialism by 2000", then "an apartment by 2000" ....
                        And the people stopped believing the words of the authorities, even when the authorities were telling the truth ....
                        That is why now people - NOT wanting to see all that crazy negativity that happened in the USSR - are working for people like Suvorov (conditional) ..
                        When they sing "about free medicine" - Suvorovites write about "4 new drills for a dentist a week and pain relief by pull." And the people nod their heads "well, yes, I remember, they drilled without anesthesia .."
                        Who does the people believe after this - your words about "free medicine" or your childhood memories?


                      8. -1
                        4 September 2022 07: 57
                        So in the capitalist paradise, they drilled without anesthesia. They haven’t come up with lidocaine yet, but novocaine, which you even pour into tanks in the Union, didn’t work that way. It was not from lack, they simply did not know how yet. Medicine treated people with care. Personally, I have nothing to complain about. In CITO, they patched up qualitatively, after injuries.
                        And they lied, in the west, the top uncles are not a little less. Power always lies. But the main thing was not bourgeois, and for this I am ready to forgive all the shortcomings of the Union.
                      9. +1
                        4 September 2022 13: 11
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Medicine treated people with care. Personally, I have nothing to complain about.
                        - you're just crazy - lucky ...
                        In my old passport, my blood type was 3 Rh +, in the military 4 Rh "-". I did the same specialist with an interval of 2 years. .
                        Father with a cold (!!!!) was treated to 2 groups of disability.
                        "Free medicine" - only if they didn't bring half a pig and a leg of beef - figs how "medical-free" fit. And it's almost like shit...

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                        the main thing was not bourgeois, and for this I am ready to forgive all the shortcomings of the Union.
                        so that you understand - in financial terms - we paid twice as much for treating my father with meat than we would pay now.
                        And to me those - doctors, members of the CPSU (quite possibly) who pulled meat, cottage cheese, lard and so on from us - seem much worse than your abstract bourgeois.
                        These tv ari were so drawn to All patients, not only with us. In any hospital in Saratov where the father was.
                        1982 and later.

                        Z.s. For 30 years, ferrous metal has been harvested in our fields and it does not end. This means some kind of Azovstal or Krivoy Rog worked exclusively for the trash.
                        Resources, time and human costs are just down the drain. About the fact that the environment around these factories was polluted and people breathed rubbish, got sick and died ahead of time, but no one gave a damn ..
                        The main thing is that there was no "bourgeois" ...
                      10. -1
                        4 September 2022 23: 07
                        Yes comrade. The main thing is that there should be no bourgeois. For its presence and dominance is a universal evil.
                      11. 0
                        5 September 2022 06: 43
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Yes comrade. The main thing is that there should be no bourgeois. For its presence and dominance is a universal evil.

                        Looped..
                        What is the universal evil "bourgeois" for you? Let's define some concepts, shall we?
                      12. -1
                        5 September 2022 08: 50
                        It has long been determined and you have decided. I don't want a pointless argument. Truth will not be born and we will not come to a consensus, as Judas the labeled used to say. Do not be distructed. Keep watering the USSR. You are good at it, give out a negative on the mountain.
                        About luck. All my friends and buddies, classmates also lived. And from a family I am simple and I lost my father when I was 10.
                      13. 0
                        5 September 2022 12: 05
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Keep watering the USSR. You are good at it, give out a negative on the mountain.

                        Let's see the positive? The problem is that if you do not close your eyes "the grass is green, the sun is gentle" - but look at REAL the state of affairs - it turns out that 80 percent of the negative is in that positive ..
                        В ANYONE question.
                        Absolutely anyone.
                        And everyone saw this negative - the entire population of the USSR without exception .. And the negative, as an untreated disease, tends to accumulate - if you do not try to fight it. And they stopped fighting after the 1940s ...
                        And you are all negative - you know all the examples perfectly - because it was and it's true ...
                        And this negativity and mess accumulated and killed the USSR. Not 10 Jews - but all[b] [/ b] the population that distanced itself from the USSR with the words "oh, the bosses in Maskva, let them decide there. Our business is small ..."
                        In 1941, it was impossible in theory to imagine that someone would say "I didn't send you there." with the state. And as soon as a critical mass of people indifferent to the state had accumulated, the USSR collapsed instantly. According to its properties, it required manual control and care for itself.
                        It never dawned on you - that I don't mind - I'm for the USSR. If it were possible to overcome all that negativity.
                        And you - "Bourgeois - the main evil" .. the main evil is indifference ...

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                        About luck. All my friends and buddies, classmates also lived.
                        not Moscow for an hour? You describe it painfully graciously - such "splendor" in cities - usually started from a million
                      14. -1
                        5 September 2022 19: 39
                        Moscow and what?
                        I was not indifferent. And he butted heads with bureaucrats and tried to move partocrats, so that it was not in vain that a roll with caviar was jammed. And at the break, he went to fight for Soviet power. My conscience is clear. Guilt only that he could not win.
                        If you do not understand that the social system determines being and the bourgeoisie is the main evil. Because he exposes his own rules, unacceptable for a worker, what else to discuss? What USSR are you for? How can he, in your view, look like if socialism and the bourgeoisie are not compatible concepts.
                      15. 0
                        5 September 2022 23: 33
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Moscow and what?

                        Eee... lol lol lol can go no further - you don't understand me and you never will
                        My uncle worked as a head of a children's emergency room in Moscow. In 1984, I sprained my leg at the knee. I've been in the hospital for two, three weeks ... the swelling hasn't subsided, I can't walk. They took him to his uncle in Moscow. And he has a commission from the Ministry of Health ..
                        He showed them my medical book, an X-ray picture and a lancet and asked the question - "Do you see how they treat people in the country?" The commission looked and silently canceled my job..
                        To me:
                        1) did not pump out blood from the joint
                        2) they put a splint 20 cm long under the knee joint - although it should have been at least from the groin to the ankle
                        3) they took an X-ray picture of the knee on a film of the size that was then used in Moscow on ... dental pictures. But the truth was there was a 3/4 knee ...
                        Three days later, I boarded the train myself.
                        3 weeks and 3 days - Do you catch the difference? But you could remain disabled. Easy and casual...

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                        socialism and the bourgeoisie are incompatible concepts.
                        - And Sweden and China, no? quite combine and the bourgeoisie and socialism ... Moreover, the classical bourgeoisie - the owners of factories
                        I offered you to decide on the concepts, you refused
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                        Because he exposes his own rules, unacceptable for a worker
                        - what is not acceptable?
                        does it make you work? So in the USSR they were forced to work, and even often for free - the army, for example, having born a penny for its work in carrying doors (I dragged it on GAZ - they freed cellars) or digging potatoes.

                        big loads? so saleswomen loaded bags all their lives - it was only in Moscow that there were loaders. And so "no more than 15 kg at a time and no more than 1200 kg per working day" for women in trade.

                        harmful industries? did they fall from the sky or were they under the USSR?

                        safety measures? Every year, 1-3 people died at our reinforced concrete products when unloading cement. Drowned in cement drunk - normal they didn’t go to work there. So the authorities turned a blind eye that the loaders there were thumping with buckets - three buckets of cement = a bottle of a port...

                        do they work without documents? so in the USSR there were a lot of "shabashniks" ... they brought an armful of passports and labor - like 10 people 5 work, but in fact three and a salary for 10 three

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                        I was not indifferent.
                        -and the leadership of the concrete goods - where people died, was quite indifferent to themselves. Die and die...
                        Moreover, the very fact that no one was imprisoned for those drowned people - neither the management nor the safety engineer - indicates that they most likely worked without documents at the black checkout

                        you know, it’s easy to talk about socialism - when you had the opportunity, as you had in Moscow, to go to the store and buy a pack of oil from our oil refinery (everything is exported clean to you), and not drag it 1200 km by train back (try to get it in the car first without kondeev at a temperature of +35, yeah) or buy stolen at exorbitant prices ...
                        and after 1984 everything went downhill
                      16. -1
                        6 September 2022 10: 05
                        Old song about the main thing. Muscovites got drunk. laughing Heard many times. Here are tens of thousands of tanks and at the same time I did not want to build an MPK, next to the farms where this meat is grazing, it was always not clear to me. In the same way, pulling the veins, my wife and I pearled heavy bags of groceries to our parents in a village near Moscow. Walking distance from the regional center is five versts, because the bus runs very rarely. And I also know firsthand what a hospital in the outback is. I had a chance with hepatitis, not a first-year conscript, in the glorious city of Yeniseisk, to be treated. But it's all about the stomach. But it doesn’t suit me that someone eats three throats, burns through the margin due to my work. Unacceptably . Personal enrichment is a crime. Only collectively.
                        Where did you see socialism in China and Sweden? Where profit reigns, socialism is not even close.
                        The fact that today you can go and buy anything is good, but the huge gap in income and the power of a speculator, not a hard worker, is very bad
                      17. 0
                        6 September 2022 14: 53
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Where did you see socialism in China and Sweden? Where profit reigns, socialism is not even close.

                        Then excuse me - but socialism does not exist in nature. In general ...
                        Even in the USSR there was a layer of people who
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                        eats in three throats, burns through the margin due to my work.
                        - the entire party apparatus, all kinds of party organizers and other orgs, all trade without exception, the entire bureaucratic apparatus of the USSR (the only body of which was not in the USSR - tax, all the rest were), all kinds of "angelic groups" of generals, "first-separators" of all stripes, speculators and hucksters and so on ...
                        They all ate sweetly and slept well, went to a personal doctor and boasted about how cleverly they settled down ... No?
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                        The fact that today you can go and buy anything is good, but the huge gap in income and the power of a speculator, not a hard worker, is very bad

                        But in the USSR it was good - my father, being the head of the PMC and having 100 horses with eggs under his command, received about 200 rubles. And they received an average of 450-500 ...
                        This of course was fair - they are hard workers .... and yes, 200-300 rubles with that money - this is of course not huge, but a lot ..
                        He got sick because he climbed into the river in November of these hard workers who had gone to hell and climbed to swim - to drive them out of the water. Otherwise they would drown - they would put him in prison ...

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                        The fact that today you can go and buy anything is good

                        The trouble is that the Ivanov planters existed in the USSR. He grew cucumbers on the collective farm to seed, automatically overfulfilled the plan (even he had some kind of reward!). The collective farm handed over IT to the district police, the district district twisted swearing into the banks ("Father, and if it doesn’t fit into the jar?" (C) an old vulgar anecdote ksk time about this), the banks stood 2 years on the shelves, after which they were written off and thrown away.
                        ALL "hard workers" they received bonuses - Ivanov, the collective farm, the regional district that more cans were spun, 1 secretary for organizing the overfulfillment of the plan - the banks are standing, there is food, but you can’t even eat them as a snack ... But the reporting is beautiful ....

                        And so throughout the USSR
                      18. -1
                        7 September 2022 08: 31
                        And where do you get all this rubbish? Read your comments, not the USSR, but an African village. laughing
                        And they didn’t eat parteigennose at my expense. In the same way, they lived on the salary. Well, they also received rations and medical services, a little better. And today the director of the "state" corporation has five lyams a day !!! and looks at people like a louse. And these children, on wheelbarrows, costing the entire pension fund of your region, ride on the steps of the stairs of Moscow State University and underground pedestrian crossings. Straight to the people. Whoever didn't jump back is to blame. Hucksters, yes, they had, but they hid their stolen goods and could not openly sell them. Until the decomposed government began to turn a blind eye to this, and the proletariat scored that it was the hegemon and ate bitter.
                        Understand, I do not deny shortcomings and excesses. What was, was, but what is today is darkness and chaos. And it is generated by the desire for profit. Jungle they do not mean anything human.
                      19. +1
                        7 September 2022 17: 30
                        Quote: Essex62
                        And where do you get all this rubbish? Read your comments, not the USSR, but an African village.

                        Well, as I wrote before
                        Quote: your1970
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Moscow and what?

                        Iii ... you can not continue further - you don't understand me and you never will

                        This is not an African village native USSR, 1200 km from Moscow, Saratov Zavolzhye.
                        And yes - "Don't believe me, don't, but you didn't catch me in a lie !!!." (C) MVIN.
                        It makes no sense for me to lie to you - this is our reality those years. And you understand this no worse than me and cannot refute ...
                        It's impossible..

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                        And they didn’t eat parteigennose at my expense. In the same way, they lived on the salary. Well, they also received rations and medical services, a little better.
                        of course not, they had everything like all hard workers. Of course ...
                        Would you then try to "get" the black Obkom Volga ... now you can buy a Lamborghini, sell housing, a wife and mother-in-law for organs, get loans and buy.
                        And then it was - STATUS ...
                        It's like driving an Aurus today - everything is clear to everyone ...
                        Do you say the salary is the same? Only there is a problem - sausages from the distributor of the MGK CPSU cost 6 kopecks belay belay belay e.g. I ate them once...
                        Well, it’s boring about the “Kremlevka” - even now, only they do many things from that time in the country. Of course, they didn’t know how to revive it, but they easily maintained a worn-out organism into dust. Which was thousands of times higher in qualification than in the rest of the country.
                        In Saratov, for example, partai bosses were treated exclusively in the departmental Zheleznodorozhnaya. And surprisingly - without coupons and queues at the registry ..
                        Do you remember the reservation for railway tickets? When I stood in Moscow for 6 hours at the box office to leave, and it’s not a fact that tickets will be ..


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                        Understand, I do not deny shortcomings and excesses.

                        And you still don’t understand that these excesses are simply not treated? That they are not curable?
                        That Zhukov, with his 3 kilometers of fabric and the director of Eliseevsky, arose automatically? From the desire for profit?
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                        Until the decomposed government began to turn a blind eye to this, and the proletariat scored that it was the hegemon and ate bitter.

                        Nothing depended on the hegemon after the 1930s.

                        It annoys you that they are now putting it in their pockets, but in the USSR it was far from always beneficial for the hard workers. The USSR also managed to squander, gobble up, squander. Only then it was called the "Socialist camp", "help to developing Africa", "Turn of the rivers" and so on. And these were sums much larger than all the fortunes of all current billionaires - combined. ..
                        Banal gasification of the country - instead of gasification of villages, they dragged a pipe to NATO - in Germany


                        It was impossible to save the country from the problems in which someone looked - "Yeah, Buran snowmobiles - a shortage, It is necessary that the population should at least theoretically buy a shortage everywhere, throughout the USSR." And fuganul 3 Buran in ... Kushka !! Where the snow lies until noon in January-early February and that's it ..
                        When I served there, judging by the dust on them, they have been standing in the store for 10 years. I won’t be surprised if they are still standing ...
                        But - in theories- he was right and justice was allegedly observed. All equally, yeah ...
                      20. +1
                        8 September 2022 09: 33
                        And so you capitalism is sweeter.? Well, really, there is nothing to argue about. About the mother-in-law and the wife on the organs liked it. This is the whole point of a rotten social order. Bravo good
                      21. -1
                        8 September 2022 10: 38
                        Quote: Essex62
                        About the mother-in-law and the wife on the organs liked it. This is the whole point of a rotten social order. Bravo

                        That is rottenness do you want to see the social system of the USSR? And the fact that the USSR collapsed because of this rottenness? Bravo what ... what is there ...

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                        And so you capitalism is sweeter.?
                        - show me where I am PRAISE capitalism, at least a word .... at least 1 word .....

                        You so nifiga and did not understand my attitude to this issue.
                        Exactly until the moment - until the theory of the exclusion of the possibility is formulated All the excesses of the USSR and the setting for the benefit of all of a person’s desire for profit - it’s pointless to talk about any USSR v.2.

                        Otherwise, even if an abstract miracle happens and the USSR rises from the dead, in a year it will collapse due to internal problems


                        Quote: Essex62
                        About the mother-in-law and the wife on the organs liked it.
                        - that is, you don’t understand allegories ..... I compared CAPABILITIES then and now. You yourself confirm this
                        Quote: Essex62
                        The fact that today you can go and buy anything is good,

                        At the same time, forgetting that then state determined what a person can buy and what not ....
                        I already wrote about the purchased orange VAZ 2102 - the state then decided so .. Not a grandfather and not a father ...
                      22. 0
                        9 September 2022 07: 02
                        No, this is not an allegory. This is exactly what the system preaches - profit at any cost. Go over the heads of your neighbor. And it can't be good for everyone. Your project is a utopia. You can't pull an owl on a globe.
                        And why, in fact, you decided that I call for a repetition of what the USSR made with the mistakes is not clear. The main difference is in relation to ownership. The quotient instantly generates a bundle, which cannot be broken by any theories. The practice of individual enrichment will put everything in the same order. Only a ban, only wages according to the tariff scale, bonus incentives and working control over income.
                      23. +1
                        9 September 2022 15: 56
                        Quote: Essex62
                        The main difference is in relation to ownership.

                        One of the first decrees was the decree on notaries. Even the Bolsheviks understood its importance.
                        And it automatically breaks your schema
                        Quote: Essex62
                        z / n according to the tariff scale, bonus incentives and working control over income.

                        Do you get the idea? A bunch of ways to legally get the property you hate so much.
                        And what? A dead end?
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                        workers' income control.
                        Do you know why the Cheka had to be dispersed?
                        Because a) they gained too much strength, b) because in the heap of criminal cases against the Chekists the formula flashed too often .... including not entering into the inventory part of the property confiscated during the search ... "
                        Your hope for workers' control - meaningless.
                        I observed such controllers. In Kushka, for example, in 1988, they were given 5 cans of condensed milk and they looked like that (how are you at the excesses of the USSR !!) and they say no, we don’t see ....
                        They were not even given money, there was enough condensed milk ...
                        Now they will give a piece of bucks ... or two ... or 100 thousand each, in the current realities ...
                        And work supervisors joyfully run home with a patty of money in their mouths...
                        Traffic cops will cry with envy ....

                        We are two utopian- I hope for theory, you for the absence of bourgeois and workers' control ...

                        In the quiet 1981 almost 1,2 were confiscated from the left miners TONS(!!!!) gold. Do you think it would be difficult for them to unfasten 50-100 grams to your working control ??


                        And yet, now, unlike the USSR, to withdraw money over the hill just spit, if it's not billions ..
                        Like Koreiko, he stole a couple of lyams and quietly sat on the salary - only the money was not in the luggage room, but in some sort of China / Kazakhstan / Madagascar.
                        Iron curtain on the exit and completely cut off the Internet?
                      24. -1
                        9 September 2022 18: 03
                        Are you tired of lying? Everyone who zahoval automatically moved to the rank of those with whom the Cheka fought. The reorganization had completely different meanings. The system has grown stronger and outgrown, hastily tailored, the body of the fight against contra.
                        Auto and 10 acres is personal property. And in order not to give away the hut, acquire offspring. So the state stimulated the birth rate, along with other methods. Yes, it should be the regulator of life for a citizen. He leaned out with Wishlist - to the very hat, because this is to the detriment of the whole society.
                        Bullshit, about regulators, that you don’t need to ride like cheeses in oil. I visited our secretary of the district committee at home more than once. We talked with his boy - a classmate. Unita was an ordinary Czech one, not gold.
                      25. +1
                        9 September 2022 22: 22
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Are you tired of lying? Everyone who captured, automatically moved to the rank of those with whom the Cheka fought
                        - they moved on.
                        Think - why EACH the subsequent law enforcement agency shot and imprisoned the previous one at an accelerated pace. Only 1 leader in the entire history of the USSR quietly retired. One !!!! all the rest were either shot or imprisoned ...
                        And you are "worker control" ...

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                        He leaned out with Wishlist - to the very hat, because this is to the detriment of the whole society.
                        - this is exactly what happened by the end of the USSR ...
                        What for is fussing, trying to change something - all the same, Muskva will do everything in her own way and will beat you on the hat ... We have achieved ...

                        Quote: Essex62
                        Unita was an ordinary Czech one, not gold.
                        - you judge again from the Maskovskaya bell tower
                        In Saratov - put yourself a "Czech" - either a cool pull or 50 rubles per paw in the housing office (but also through pull).
                        In my home working village, no one had...

                        And for Muskva-"normal Czech"...

                        Our dispute is meaningless - we lived in Different THE USSR.
                        The problem is that I lived a little in your Maskovsky USSR (1986-1988) - and you in my ordinary one, in which at least 200 million people lived - no. And thank God for you that no, otherwise you would be extremely surprised and shocked ...Extremely...

                        To buy a pack of butter, you just had to go to the store. Until the 1980s, I had to take money to the son of a saleswoman, so that tomorrow or the day after tomorrow at 3 o’clock in the afternoon he would go and buy several packs from his mother, after which he would distribute this oil to us who had donated the money. In this store, we had blat - this oil was without markups in price. It’s just that those who didn’t have blat - swept it away within a few minutes.
                        And after the Olympics, it became easier to bring butter from Moscow than to buy it at home.


                        Z.Y.
                        In 1984, a telephone was installed for my father as the boss - before that, the nearest one was a kilometer across two streets. And to the ambulance - 3 km, until you reach your neighbor, until you wake him up, until you explain what you need - it’s better to run to the ambulance itself ..
                        At that time, for 16 population of the workers' settlement, people had about 000 phones - and all this is either the bosses, or the cops, or the blatota ... the phone book is like a list of the "elite" r / n
                      26. -1
                        10 September 2022 07: 50
                        Correctly. And that's why it was necessary to pump the bourgeois into your backbone and generally drive people into a complete ass. Doesn't fit with you. Why did the structure need to be changed? When it was only necessary to change vicious distortions.
                        And thank you for an interesting discussion. But it's time to turn around. We run in circles.
                        And it’s not difficult for me to understand you, offended by the snickering metropolitan, provincial, perhaps seizing on the benefits, with the advent of the backbone.
                      27. +1
                        10 September 2022 11: 19
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Why did the structure need to be changed? When it was only necessary to change vicious distortions.

                        And the system has changed because ALL the country felt sorry for itself - because Muskva did not care about the province - there is oil or gas there, because Muskva was watching - yeah
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Leaned out with Wishlist - to the very hat,
                        .because Maskva was talking all sorts of nonsense and lies, because even now you don’t want to admit what happened then.
                        Never wondered why whole country didn’t say a word either in 1991 or in 1993, or in 2011-2013?
                        Think..

                        And yet, since you are an ardent fighter against the "bourgeois" - let me remind you that about 10 million bourgeois live in Moscow - in Your terminology - those who receive money without difficulty (renters of apartments, officials, traders, owners of factories, stockbrokers, bankers, rentiers of all stripes, and so on) ..

                        And one more thing - are you ready for the glory of socialism and "salary according to work" of them all against the wall? You are proposing another redistribution of property ...
                      28. 0
                        10 September 2022 20: 05
                        Eka jammed you. Moscow is a universal evil, burn it to the ground. Then switch to Peter? wassat
                        Actually, I live in the Moscow region, and my roots are Tambov and Tver.
                      29. +1
                        10 September 2022 21: 00
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Eka jammed you. Moscow is a universal evil, burn it to the ground.
                        - no, it YOUR idea - destroy the bourgeois so that he does not interfere with the lives of hard workers
                        Quote: Essex62
                        only z / n according to the tariff scale, bonus incentives and working control over income.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        But it doesn’t suit me that someone eats three throats, burns through the margin due to my work. Unacceptably . Personal enrichment is a crime. Only collectively.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        bourgeois main evil. Because he exposes his own rules, unacceptable for a worker

                        Quote: Essex62
                        The main thing is that there should be no bourgeois. For its presence and dominance is a universal evil.


                        - Well, which of the two of us wants to burn Moscow?
                        who 10 million Moscow bourgeois interfere with???
                      30. 0
                        10 September 2022 21: 04
                        Yes, as a Bolshevik, I can’t offer anything else. But you, with your hatred of Muscovites ... Stop it, I’m already lying under the sofa.
                        And in other matters, thanks. At least some kind of detente, after today's articles and information on VO.
                      31. +1
                        10 September 2022 22: 21
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Yes, I, like a Bolshevik, cannot offer anything else.

                        Thank God, at least something was confirmed ...
                        And yes - unlike you - I don’t have hatred for Muscovites. It’s you who are ready to kill the bourgeois, not me ...

                        Your problem is that you cannot offer the people anything - except for abstract justice and equality. Words - behind which there is nothing ...
                        Only these "justice and equality" - you very quickly degenerate into blat and "limit". And also into the fact that some "old Bolsheviks" will kill other "old Bolsheviks" - dividing power ...
                        However, since you are lying under the sofa, it is pointless to expect any actions or ideas from you ...
                      32. +1
                        10 September 2022 22: 32
                        Quote: your1970
                        However, since you lie under the sofa- it is pointless to expect any actions or ideas from you ...

                        Yes ... what is called - from the heart:

                        - What is it - green, flat, hanging on the wall and squeaking?
                        - ...
                        - Boots!
                        - Why is it beeping?
                        - BUT you would be so against the wall...
                      33. 0
                        11 September 2022 08: 16
                        From laughing at you, nothing more. What about actions? See 1917 et seq. And I don't know anything about blat. All life on a common basis.
                        Yeah, the bourgeois are white and fluffy. To share power, loot and property and kill, kill, kill ... remember the 90s-00s of the last century. Yesterday was.
                      34. 0
                        11 September 2022 10: 11
                        Quote: Essex62
                        And I don't know anything about blat. All life on a common basis.

                        I believe .. I almost believe ... it happened too ... rarely, once in a million, but it happened ...
                        And so, in general, the Soviet government itself recognized the problem of blat and tried to fight it or demonstrate a type of struggle. Raikin, cinema, feuilletons ...
                        Quote: Essex62
                        bourgeois white and fluffy. Share power, loot and property and kill, kill, kill

                        I repeat - are you ready to destroy 10 million bourgeois (I listed them earlier - they are all bourgeois in your terminology) only in Moscow?
                        Well, you can’t even offer anything to the population - because after the destruction of the bourgeois, as in 1917, 1918 will come - "War Communism" ....
                        And at least 10 years of devastation.
                        Both past redistribution of property in 1917 and 1991 gave relative stability somewhere in 8 years.
                        Do you hope that now the people will wait 10 years for the stability curve after such a shock?
                      35. 0
                        11 September 2022 12: 46
                        Not a redistribution, but a return to public ownership. There should be no property other than personal property. Private property is capitalism. Fir-trees-sticks, but what are you all chasing in a circle? Socialism will come, modernized and maximally cleansed of the vices of the past. War communism is from, namely, devastation, following the results of WWI and Civil War and general poverty. It won't be like that. As everything worked, it will continue to work, but on the basis of a planned economy and public ownership of the joint venture.
                        You are a very bloodthirsty man, are you ready to put 10 million Muscovites under the knife? What for? Whoever rests, yes, yes, you will have to explain. But most live the way the system allows. They will live as best they can, as they lived not so long ago. Work for a salary, travel to rest in the Crimea, further down the list. Here, the MPK and the Cheese Factory should be built near each regional center in order to knock out the soil from under their feet from such detractors as you. So that they don’t yell that Muscovites are eating you.
                        The only catch is that you liquidated the proletariat as a class. Simply and effectively, they ruined their own and built the appearance of saturation on imports. Let's see what you will sing in a year or two when the deficit looms. The West seriously decided to strangle Russia, there will be no more goodies from there.
                      36. 0
                        11 September 2022 15: 34
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Not a redistribution, but a return to public ownership.
                        - this is the redistribution, whatever you call it. When something is taken away from Grudinin (or Potanin - it doesn’t matter who !!) belay belay financial and accounting confusion.
                        When a real estate complex is taken away, this is financial trash. And taking into account the fact that you and banks are taken away, the new owners (it doesn’t matter who it is, the people or some Furman) have uncertainty about the reliability of the supplier / buyer.
                        And his majesty comes Barter- fat for Rembrandt, gasification for linoleum, chickens for brick ..
                        This is "War Communism" in the economy - when economic ties are destroyed to zero.
                        And then the Koreans immediately come up and start eating ....
                        By the way, have you ever wondered - how could he steal a trainload of grain and not share it with anyone? This is the question of corruption in the USSR - in the context of the presence of the Cheka in transport and revolutionary tribunals ..
                        Quote: Essex62
                        You are a very bloodthirsty man, are you ready to put 10 million Muscovites under the knife? What for? Whoever rests, yes, yes, you will have to explain.

                        You seriously don’t understand that if now their rented apartments are taken away from Moscow apartment rentiers, their income is taken away and they are forced to work physically, they will not forgive your authorities for this ...
                        And our farmers, who will be deprived of their land, do you think they will endure in silence?
                        When the revolution happened in 1917 - it was almost especially difficult to take away and there was no one - 2-3 million had property. All in all ..
                        And now, if you do not take away their 2-3 apartments from the landlords, in a couple of weeks they will BUY at the root of any super-emergency body and any workers' control.
                        By the way, as it was in the period before the NEP and in the NEP.
                        The NNEP was killed because they got a little out of hunger, but most importantly, because the wildest corruption went there.

                        For sporting interest, read the brochure "Meeting of the People's Commissariat of Communications and the Prosecutor's Office", 1934.
                        There, such corruption in the communication system was sorted out at the meeting - that Zakharchenko nervously smokes on the sidelines
                      37. -1
                        11 September 2022 19: 34
                        The socialist economy and the market are two very different things. And there will be no banks in their current capacity at all. Why do we need moneylenders? Everything is funded by the central bank. Naturally, for some time, the wheels will spin with a creak. Sabotage and all that, but in the age of continuous computerization and universal literacy, it is much easier to overcome this than at the dawn of the RSFSR.
                        But this is all pure theory. The bourgeoisie has nothing to fear. The presence of a pipe will not allow to bring to critical poverty, when even the layman has nothing to lose. Well, there is almost no proletariat, it is precisely such whom the rentiers cannot buy.
                        By the way, I would like to know your thoughts on how to return the USSR. You said you didn't mind. The truth is only looking for the negative.
                      38. 0
                        12 September 2022 18: 53
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Naturally, for some time, the wheels will spin with a creak. Sabotage and all that, but in the age of continuous computerization and universal literacy, it is much easier to overcome this than at the dawn of the RSFSR.

                        last two times -1917 and 1991- before relative stability took 10 years. Now globally nothing will be accelerated - simply because the electronic document flow will also collapse.
                        Backdating a payment through a liquidated bank - here you can withdraw the entire budget of the Russian Federation in half an hour ....
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Well, there is almost no proletariat, it is precisely such whom the rentiers cannot buy.
                        -of course not. Then the proletariat had "nothing to lose - except chains", the current car (even if it's old), housing, and so on trifles. Well, if he's not a worthless alcoholic drunkard...

                        Quote: Essex62
                        The truth is only looking for the negative.
                        - I already wrote to you - the negative is something that turned a blind eye. As a result, the people stopped believing in the authorities in general. The official ideology sharply limited the freedom of maneuver - for example, it was impossible to say that Bandera was driven before 1957 - because they were supported by 99% of the local population. The Reich and the Wehrmacht were bent over in 4 years, and Bandera for 12 years and nothing
                        How can I say this - if officially "Friendship of Peoples" and unofficially the entire population saw the Westerners? That's right - no way ...
                        So this is not a negative - but a feature of the system.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        By the way, I would like to know your thoughts on how to return the USSR. You said you didn't mind.
                        depending on which one.
                        If "Swedish socialism" - then it is quite possible by legal methods.
                        And if the USSR ver.2 (with the destruction of your "eating bourgeois") - then alas.
                        All countries (except Mongolia) in the 20th century came to socialism exclusively in the course of wars and / or total impoverishment. All without exception - even Cuba (where expensive madam "with reduced social responsibility" cost a dollar a night by this point belay ).
                        Only such conditions lead to the fact that people go to cut their neighbor - the "bourgeois" for his store and Land Cruiser easily and joyfully ...

                        The problem is that - I would not much like either total impoverishment or the defeat of the Russian Federation in the war. I really don't want to..
                        Because Russia will again fall into pieces, only even smaller ones than in 1917 and 1991.

                        ss
                        Mongolia is an exception - but I suspect that they were not particularly aware that they began to build socialism ..
                      39. 0
                        13 September 2022 10: 13
                        Yes, it's all clear. To do what? You wrote about some formed theories. Which? How to cross a snake and a hedgehog and not get exploited again, a skew in income and the disgusting norms of life resulting from this?
                        About a prolitarian who has housing and a wheelbarrow, my father-in-law, a driver in a state farm near Moscow, and the new Moskvich also had a kopeck piece allocated by the state. Garden, cow, three bulls, and so on little things, chickens and pigs. And so it is with everyone. This is on the eve of the coup, before the sabotage began. But in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, I have not seen cars in the countryside, except for our army ones. It's the same twist. The country is huge, there was not enough for everyone.
                        And yet, yes, there should not be a defeat for Russia in a war. The West will not give us a better chance to survive.
                      40. 0
                        13 September 2022 15: 50
                        Quote: Essex62
                        To do what? You wrote about some formed theories.

                        You again do not read the opponent
                        Quote: your1970
                        Right up to that moment - until it is formulated the theory of excluding the possibility of ALL excesses of the USSR and staging for the benefit of all a person’s desire for profit - it’s pointless to talk about any USSR v.2
                        - I said that the teachings of Marx-Engels are outdated and a new theory is needed, taking into account the experience of the USSR.
                        And this is the problem of problems ..
                        And we are observing "take away and divide" in a neighboring country ...
                        Only the proletariat, as usual, flew by. The redistribution of all property did not happen - the owners just changed, nothing more.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        But in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, I have not seen cars in the countryside, except for our army ones. It's the same twist. The country is huge, there was not enough for everyone.
                        Well, thank God, it dawned on you that it was not entirely fair in the country, not always and not everywhere ..
                        And then "provincials", "offended" and so on ...
                      41. -1
                        13 September 2022 23: 27
                        No not like this. And he saw and did not accept, and even fought as much as possible. But the desire for profit
                        and all the negativity that accompanies this, which cannot be compared with the distortions in the USSR, I will never accept.
                        On this we will finish.
                        PS: and provincial resentment boils in your every post. Pret outside, sorry.
                      42. -1
                        14 September 2022 08: 57
                        Quote: Essex62
                        provincial resentment boils in your every post. Pret outside, sorry.

                        No, it didn't....
                        Muskva....
                        As then they did not see what was happening in the country, and now they do not see ...
                        Then they raked everything from the country to Maskva, so that the Muscovites would not bark (well, ODON at the same time lol just in case, you never know Novocherkassk repeat).
                        The best medicine, the best living conditions, the best goods, all the best was in Muskva...
                        So why shouldn't I resent her?
                        Why did I have to carry 5 kg of butter from OUR factory from Maskva at +35 in the train for a day on the train ??
                        Before what creature from the Central Committee did I guilty - that I had to steal coal for a bath all my childhood?
                        Why did my grandfather, a war invalid, after 2 years (!!!) of waiting, instead of the desired Moskvich, bought
                        orange VAZ 2102?
                        Why were unburied nameless soldiers lying in the woods 20-30-40 years after the war under the ringing slogan - "No one is forgotten ..."?


                        It never reaches you - that if the country were for the USSR, he would be alive. Despite the MSG and EBN ...
                        They shut your mouths - all the best in the country - and you NOT wanted (!!!!) then to see the horror that was happening in the country outside Muskva.
                        I repeat - the CPSU, hiding behind beautiful slogans and empty promises, lied and betrayed its people and its country ...

                        I think that further discussion is really pointless.
                        We lived in Different USSR - you are in Moscow, I am in another.
      3. +2
        30 August 2022 19: 59
        Quote: yuriy55
        Those who shout about mobilization have already won back theirs. They are in their 70s and 80s...

        And they spend days on the Internet.
        Quote: yuriy55
        They do not understand what prevents the defense industry plants from working in three shifts, providing the army with everything necessary.

        They have been working for a long time.
      4. -4
        31 August 2022 04: 43
        OPK works in 3 shifts, especially those factories that produce missile weapons (well, yes, well, yes, than to know how it’s actually easier to yell everything is gone)
        the liberal party in Russia is several million people and they work more or less for Russia, and this can be seen simply because our economy has not only survived the sanctions, but is successfully functioning. if they worked against these several million liberals would have buried Russia in the first month. BUT THAT DID NOT HAPPEN
        the whole world, all Western economists are shocked by the strength of the ru economy and how it has rebuilt. but local fools keep yelling PZhIV

        in short, the campaign for some people was not current eyes, but everything was gouged out with darts
        you collect non-existent crap and rumors and start smearing with snot everything is gone PZHIV PZHIV

        people like you are worse than enemies and traitor liberals - such alarmists and hysterics
        shot in WWII. no joke, you can google how it was before collecting a portfolio for school on September 1
    5. +5
      30 August 2022 10: 04
      You pay attention to one more fact. No matter how the interview with the front line, so the profession is a miner, foreman, hard workers in general. I have never heard of it, sales manager, bank employee, merchandiser (ugh), streamer, instagram blog (with a billion subscribers). Donbass, a region of workers, the Russian Federation, mainly a country of managers. Manager thought is one-loot-phone-car, woman, club, this is at best. Will they go to war? (I say right away, I am 60 years old, I fought in the DRA for 2 years))))))). Not one of these.
      1. -2
        30 August 2022 13: 41
        And I've heard managers and sellers and even bloggers ...
        1. +1
          30 August 2022 15: 23
          Donetsk yes, but they have no choice.
          1. -3
            30 August 2022 16: 16
            And no one seems to have asked our volunteers yet ... at least I haven’t come across such a thing.
      2. -1
        30 August 2022 13: 45
        And you look on the Internet for information about the Starostin brothers. It is very informative how they excused their acquaintances from the draft using their connections at the height of the war. It has always been so.
        1. +4
          30 August 2022 15: 22
          Lies on lies and lies drive. Notions of the catastrophe era. Sochinyalki Ogonkovskiy huckster henchmen. Newspeak liberals.
        2. -3
          30 August 2022 16: 21
          It is clear what happened ... but this is not relevant, conscripts do not fight with us.
      3. -1
        31 August 2022 04: 45
        of course not, the liberals will be dumped abroad the next day screaming do not touch my iPhone
      4. +1
        31 August 2022 20: 21
        Quote: Shark Lover
        Never heard of a sales manager

        I heard. The man quit his job and left for the Donbass. And even before the start of the NWO
    6. +3
      30 August 2022 10: 58
      Not at all, of course. Those who really want to help not in word, but in deed, silently go and sign up, where there is an opportunity, without arranging verbal tricks.
  5. +20
    30 August 2022 05: 39
    Lord, articles about slowing down the NWO, and what can everyone expect, does not seem to be written by the one who only knows how to write, and absolutely all the experts, as I look.!
    1. +29
      30 August 2022 06: 53
      At the same time, each author begins with the phrase "let's figure out what is happening," but instead of a military analysis of the situation, propaganda is being carried out.
      1. +10
        30 August 2022 07: 10
        Yes, in such articles propaganda is mixed, and everything in a row .. Is it also something to write an analysis of the actions of the General Staff, Russia .. yes, and in general I’ll write why and how the universe lives and why the NWO has slowed down.
        1. +4
          30 August 2022 09: 22
          It is so obvious that the USA used a weapon forbidden by the Gods, forcing the Universe to vibrate in the other direction, because of which luck no longer comes to Russia from the planets and stars. But nothing, they will be rewarded for this ...
      2. 0
        30 August 2022 17: 30
        Quote: Galleon
        every author starts with the phrase "let's figure out what's going on"

        sad So for anyone who is not indifferent, this is a question of questions - " What is going on ?? " And not in a single article on VO. (as in other places and sites), it is impossible to find a complete and truthful answer to this question.
        -------------------
        To private questions .. something like .. with the help of your own analysis and a critical attitude to numerous sources and "sources", answers can be unearthed. But the whole picture.. all the puzzles.. can't be put together.
        Why is that ? But because it is impossible to fully understand the internal motives of several tens .. (or hundreds?) people who make (choose) specific and strategic decisions.
        -------------------
        Goals need to be clearly defined. What do we want? "all of us .. who writes here in VO. And it turns out .. that everyone wants very different things .. often the exact opposite. And this is already chaos .. this is a disaster.
        -------------------
        For myself .. chose what to want - In every possible way to seek (both in the Gospel, and in Acts .. and in prayer in the Church .. etc.), to seek what our Lord Jesus Christ wants .. And try (try) to want exactly this.
        1. +5
          30 August 2022 22: 32
          I went to church for 20 years, trying to understand what the Lord wants from Russia. But when the current rulers of secular and spiritual power came together ... God does not want anything. It doesn't matter to Him.
    2. 0
      30 August 2022 08: 56
      As Kutuzov said: "Seeing the battle from the side, everyone fancies himself a strategist"
      1. +1
        30 August 2022 09: 45
        To be completely accurate, he said .. And everyone fancies himself a strategist, looking at the battle from the side ..
        1. +10
          30 August 2022 10: 07
          To be even more precise, this is a phrase from Sh. Rustaveli's book "The Knight in the Panther's Skin": "Everyone fancies himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side ..."
          1. 0
            30 August 2022 15: 02
            That's right .. good
  6. +38
    30 August 2022 05: 45
    Those who voted for the commander-in-chief and his party should be the first to appear at the mobilization points in order to support them during working hours.
    1. +19
      30 August 2022 06: 06
      EP battalions on the front line, near the Duma
    2. -9
      30 August 2022 08: 58
      And they are coming....the opposition is in no hurry.
    3. +6
      30 August 2022 09: 49
      Peskov's son should be the first to arrive at the mobilization point
      1. -1
        30 August 2022 10: 42
        Quote: Boris Sergeev
        Peskov's son should be the first to arrive at the mobilization point

        Why not Zyuganov?
        1. +5
          30 August 2022 10: 56
          In our country, Peskov and Medinsky are too fond of "gestures of good will" to render at the expense of other people's lives.
          1. -6
            30 August 2022 11: 23
            This is not an answer ... but what did they personally decide?
            1. -4
              30 August 2022 14: 35
              This is what we don't know. At least, the press secretary speaks much more often than the president. And on a very wide range of issues. So sometimes you doubt who our president is.
              1. -7
                30 August 2022 16: 11
                That's why he is a press secretary to speak ... and the president must do business and not sharpen his folly, because a good president does not have time for this.
                1. 0
                  1 September 2022 09: 53
                  So "comrade" Peskov seems to be voicing what the president is doing, and he sometimes carries such nonsense.
                  1. -4
                    1 September 2022 09: 57
                    And who told you that he voices what the president is doing? He entertains journalists by making them brains. A normal politician, like a commander, never explains what he is doing, he gives orders.
    4. 0
      30 August 2022 10: 30
      Quote: Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers
      Those who voted for the commander-in-chief and his party should be the first to appear at the mobilization points in order to support them during working hours.

      Strange, but the who voted против- it’s also not very visible there. Or they - for the Motherland only if they are in power?
      1. -5
        30 August 2022 10: 44
        As one comunyak told me "this is not our war ...". For the people they are only in words.
      2. -4
        30 August 2022 19: 26
        Quote: your1970
        Strange, but those who voted against it are also not particularly visible there.

        Against. more than logical.

        Quote: your1970
        Quote: Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers
        Those who voted for the commander-in-chief and his party should be the first to appear at the mobilization points in order to support them during working hours.

        Strange, but the who voted против- it’s also not very visible there. Or they - for the Motherland only if they are in power?

        And you are aware that the "homeland" has unloved "children", they are ordered to enter there.
        1. 0
          31 August 2022 07: 07
          Quote: Oorfene Juice and his Wooden Soldiers
          Quote: your1970
          Strange, but those who voted against it are also not particularly visible there.

          Against. more than logical.

          Hmm? Then "Let's destroy the Nazi reptile in Kyiv !!" - it's just chant for rallies THOSE?
          Quote: Oorfene Juice and his Wooden Soldiers
          And you are aware that the "homeland" has unloved "children", they are ordered to enter there.

          The fact that they had a majority in 2 Dumas and equality in one more - no, does not count?
          They had to change the leader back in the late 90s. Mossy too...
        2. -1
          1 September 2022 10: 05
          Quote: Oorfene Juice and his Wooden Soldiers
          you are aware that the "homeland" has unloved "children", they are ordered to enter there

          National Bolsheviks are generally banned, but this did not prevent them from creating their own volunteer detachment in the Donbass.
          1. 0
            1 September 2022 15: 33
            Well, maybe they were promised a couple of side "stools" in the future Duma, if they wash away their past sins with blood?
            1. -1
              1 September 2022 16: 18
              And such a simple thought as the fact that they, not only in words for Russia, are experiencing it in your head, they are not able to come? Maybe you shouldn't judge everyone...
    5. -4
      30 August 2022 10: 48
      Turchynov does not leave Donbass. And tov. Kalashnikov that he is in charge of the CIS Committee in the Duma from Moscow without a foot. What is strange to this committee, no one has any questions.
    6. -1
      30 August 2022 11: 31
      That was tough.)
      Shock battalions of aunts for 50.
      1. -6
        30 August 2022 16: 14
        But what about the "youngsters" Udaltsov? Or say there are also some aunts ...
  7. +4
    30 August 2022 05: 56
    A brave American Ukrainian blogger in an army us T-shirt is known by many..
  8. +44
    30 August 2022 06: 14
    It's time to honestly admit that the NWO was prepared on the "knee", in the hope of the Russian "maybe", many factors, both internal and external, were not taken into account, and here is the result.
    1. +27
      30 August 2022 07: 00
      Another attempt to drive into the heads of the population of Russia that everything was so intended. That the plan for a special operation is genius itself.
    2. +25
      30 August 2022 07: 13
      It was prepared, maybe not on the knee. But the fact that everything did not go according to the initial plan is already clear to everyone. And the plan was banal to the point of simplicity, as in the first Chechen one, they might be met with flowers by frightening columns. But they met, as in Chechnya, with ambushes ..
      1. +2
        30 August 2022 10: 50
        Quote: igorka357
        It was prepared, maybe not on the knee. But the fact that everything did not go according to the initial plan is already clear to everyone. And the plan was banal to the point of simplicity, as in the first Chechen one, they might be met with flowers by frightening columns. But they met, as in Chechnya, with ambushes ..

        If you are right, then .... it is better to let it be prepared on the knee than "deeply thought out" with such and such results.
      2. -2
        30 August 2022 15: 05
        Speaking of population. Do you know how many people lived in Chechnya in 2000 - more than nine hundred thousand, of all sexes and ages. Less than a million ... that is, two hundred thousand men at the most. Total!
        1. -2
          30 August 2022 16: 14
          Why do we need this information? I saw 99-14 year old boys with aka in Dagestan in 15, and what's next? 200 partisans, well-armed and hiding in the mountains or in ruined cities, is a terrible force. Ordinary war does not work there, there is total extermination, in a place with those who fell under the batch. Partisans are the scourge of all invaders, well, or liberators, whatever you like ..
    3. Cat
      +12
      30 August 2022 08: 45
      The NWO was prepared on the "knee", in the hope of the Russian "maybe", many factors, both internal and external, were not taken into account, and this is the result.

      All this is called in one word - adventure.
    4. +6
      30 August 2022 10: 34
      "Not a single military plan can withstand the very first encounter with the enemy." (c) Helmut Karl Bernard von Moltke (The Elder).
      "In preparation for battle, plans are indispensable, but once the battle has begun, the plan becomes completely useless." (C) Dwight Eisenhower.
    5. +2
      31 August 2022 02: 11
      Truly so. Like the first "Minsk", and now, maybe, the third one (if it comes to that). Long live profanation in politics? Laughter through tears, and nothing more.
  9. -12
    30 August 2022 06: 58
    Thank you for your reasonable, balanced position. Good luck!
  10. +24
    30 August 2022 07: 11
    Again statues telling unreasonable people that everything is fine and going according to plan ...
    Two articles in two days, well, they are trying very hard to "explain" this to us
    1. -1
      30 August 2022 10: 03
      Quote from: User_neydobniu
      Again statues telling unreasonable people that everything is fine and going according to plan ...
      Two articles in two days, well, they are trying very hard to "explain" this to us

      Trying to interpret, probably precisely because everything goes not according to plan. And, for a long time.
  11. +2
    30 August 2022 07: 16
    In this regard, I find the story of the Ukrainian patriot-blogger Mykola very informative (let's call him that so as not to advertise this person). This character emigrated to the United States long before the events began, where he served in the US Army. At the same time, he led a YouTube channel, on which, as befits a true patriot of Ukraine, he praised everything Western and scolded the “scoop” with or without reason.

    By the way, recently this GURovsky lump recommended bombing sites in Crimea directly in the video and talked about the fact that ordinary Ukrainians should "not interfere" with the Armed Forces of Ukraine to do their job and leave the "occupied cities" on the front line.
    1. +1
      30 August 2022 09: 24
      Quote from BSD-Fan
      Again statues telling unreasonable people that everything is fine and going according to plan ...
      Two articles in two days, well, they are trying very hard to "explain" this to us

      I laughed when I realized what it was about. But it really was like that))) And now they are looking at the map and virtually bombing Russia. Clinic.
  12. +3
    30 August 2022 07: 44
    Everyone can listen to YouTube performances by Scott Ritter and Douglas McGregor. They talk about the capabilities of Ukraine, and the pace of the operation, and the ability of NATO and the United States to provide assistance to Ukraine.
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    1. +3
      30 August 2022 10: 39
      Quote: Vladislav 73
      riots of conscripts and "social upheavals":

      A little bit later.
      In 1988, in Kushka, a glass of jaundice urine cost 25 rubles. It was necessary to take 2 glasses - they were not sent to Afghanistan with hepatitis
      I knew 7 people from our regiment of my conscription who swirled around the hospital - in order to get urine and mow down

      Of course, these are not riots and not social upheavals, but 7 people out of 32 of my call are, to put it mildly, dofiga
    2. +4
      30 August 2022 11: 17
      Quote: Vladislav 73
      sent the USSR to the war in Vietnam

      Most likely a typo, he meant Afghanistan.
      1. -3
        30 August 2022 15: 59
        Quote: victor50
        Most likely a typo, he meant Afghanistan.

        That's it! As the saying goes, "the devil is in the details." Such little things, or rather, attention to such little things, are the difference between serious analytics and propaganda articles blinded "on the knee." That's what I pointed out in my first comment. And yet - such trifles just show the level of the author and the degree of responsibility for his words.
        1. +1
          30 August 2022 20: 43
          Quote: Vladislav 73
          As the saying goes, "the devil is in the details." Such little things, or rather, attention to such little things, are the difference between serious analytics and propaganda articles blinded "on the knee."

          Article, yes, propaganda, most likely. But similar errors, typos, are allowed in serious publications. And here it is more the fault of the editors, it is sometimes difficult for the author to see his mistakes - the eye is blurred, the brain does not see the words the way they are written.
          1. 0
            30 August 2022 21: 49
            Quote: victor50
            But similar errors, typos, are allowed in serious publications.

            It’s not those, apparently, “serious publications” I’m used to reading, since in such opuses that are now being analyzed, all sorts of jambs, blunders and typos immediately catch my eye ... I’m used to, you know, reading thoughtfully, and not running through my eyes and rushing to scribble a comment. about your:
            Quote: victor50
            it is sometimes difficult for the author to see his mistakes - the eye is blurred, the brain sees the words differently from how they are written.

            There is a folk wisdom - "Paper should be aged for 3 days!" But here what 3 days! Every day, like a go-ahead, such articles are "baked" like hot cakes, which is doubly alarming and makes you even more thoughtfully parse this scribble. And further. Even here there are Authors-with-capital-letters who are a pleasure to read! The same Andrei from Chelyabinsk (my countryman). But these "writers", "cooking" similar articles .... request Best regards hi
            1. +1
              30 August 2022 22: 07
              Quote: Vladislav 73
              The paper should be aged for 3 days!

              Yes, I agree. But when you wait... laughing
              Quote: Vladislav 73
              The same Andrey from Chelyabinsk

              I agree.
      2. -3
        30 August 2022 16: 04
        Of course, Afghan, there were no recruits in Vietnam, only specialists.
  14. kig
    +24
    30 August 2022 07: 49
    In this article, we will try to understand how things really are,

    According to my misunderstanding, if you want to figure out how it really is, then you need to at least approximately know how it really is. Does the author know? Where? From Konashenkov's evening reports? But does the author know the ironic proverb "in reality, everything is not as it really is." If he does not know, I give. Maybe it'll come in handy.

    In general, something often began to tell us how everything really is there. Open our eyes. This is strange. Leads to thought. And worryingly something is going on.
    1. +6
      30 August 2022 08: 29
      Quote: kig
      if you want to figure out how it really is, then you need to at least approximately know how it really is. Does the author know? Where? From Konashenkov's evening reports? Does the author know the ironic proverb "in reality, everything is not as it really is"

      But you can kick Strelkov and the journalists who are there. )))
      As for the population and mobilization, it should be borne in mind that children, women and the elderly should be excluded from the total number, indeed the reserve for mobilization is not ice. Now in Ukraine they are praying that high school students and school graduates will not be raked in. I'm not talking about those who left. How is it that Europe does not try to push them out, but they "do not push out." And yes, it's not all men.
      Norway plans to allocate 200 lemon dollars to Ukraine for the purchase of gas! Although I doubt that this money will go to gas. And where are you going to buy? But this is already a serious signal that Ukraine has not been able to pump (steal) gas in the required volume.
      Like everyone here in the VO, I would like the NVO to end as soon as possible, but only on Russia's terms, and for denazification and demilitarization to be carried out in full. Otherwise, all the sacrifices were in vain and faith in Russia will be undermined forever.
      1. -7
        30 August 2022 09: 01
        But is Girkin in the Donbass?
      2. -3
        30 August 2022 09: 27
        Quote: Egoza
        faith in Russia will be undermined forever.

        Yes, forever? In the history of Russia, there have already been wars that had to be won, but which were eventually lost. It is not noticeable that faith is forever undermined by them, since now we have this faith here.
    2. -1
      30 August 2022 09: 29
      Quote: kig
      In general, something often began to tell us how everything really is there. Open our eyes. This is strange. Leads to thought. And worryingly something is going on.

      They talk constantly. Usual propaganda. Either they scold insufficient information work, or they are anxious from at least some ...
  15. G17
    +17
    30 August 2022 07: 57
    For some reason, the author of this opus considers all other readers dumber than himself and tries to explain that retreat, planning errors and the lack of forces involved in the operation are right, good and according to plan. The Third World War has been going on for half a year, requiring the country to be put on a war footing in all spheres of life: not only mobilization, but also fundamental changes in the economy, culture, and the fight against the "fifth column". But none of this is being done, and here the author again tries to prove that this is good and right, since only damned America will benefit from this. Meanwhile, in fact, we are at war with the entire collective West, still in peacetime. This is mistake. It must be recognized and corrected, and not engaged in misleading people.
    1. +6
      30 August 2022 13: 44
      Well, this is typical for turboputriots. For them, no matter what the government and the Ministry of Defense do, no matter what mistakes and failures they make, everything is correct and unmistakable by default. The shameful failure of planning and conducting the start of a special operation, heavy losses in armored vehicles and people when advancing to Kyiv and Kharkov, the frank betrayal of the half-pissed assistant to the President Medinsky at the negotiations, and as a result, the surrender of positions on the northern sector of the front, the death of the Moskva RC, Konashenkov's outright lies .... For them, all this is normal and correct, as it should be, apparently this and there is the ingenious HPP, carried out by the no less "brilliant" Shoigu.
  16. -23
    30 August 2022 07: 59
    NWO in Ukraine: what is happening...

    HBO is happening.

    "... we have decided to conduct a special military operation in Ukraine in full accordance with the Charter of the United Nations. The goals of this operation are clearly and precisely defined - it is ensuring the security of Russia and our citizens, protecting the inhabitants of Donbass from genocide..." - V.V. Putin on August 16, 2022.

    ... and what to expect next

    Complete and unconditional surrender of the West, withdrawal of NATO to the borders of 1998, with the compensation to us of all our costs, reparations and indemnities.
    1. +10
      30 August 2022 10: 22
      Quote: Boris55
      NWO in Ukraine: what is happening...

      HBO is happening.

      "... we have decided to conduct a special military operation in Ukraine in full accordance with the Charter of the United Nations. The goals of this operation are clearly and precisely defined - it is ensuring the security of Russia and our citizens, protecting the inhabitants of Donbass from genocide..." - V.V. Putin on August 16, 2022.

      ... and what to expect next

      Complete and unconditional surrender of the West, withdrawal of NATO to the borders of 1998, with the compensation to us of all our costs, reparations and indemnities.

      As Sean Connery said in The Rock: "With all due respect, Mr. General, I think you're just an idiot."
    2. +3
      31 August 2022 02: 19
      Why do I love idealists? Probably because they unconditionally believe in their ideas, most often - unrealizable.
  17. +17
    30 August 2022 08: 05
    In the article, a survey - why the troops were withdrawn from Kyiv. It's simple, small Britain outplayed us and they were waiting for us there. Near Kyiv were included "light" units. There was hope for citizen Medvechuk and K, who promised to meet with flowers. But it seems that Medvedchuk was "taken" even before the start of the operation. And he got in touch from the "basement" of the SBU and said that everything was according to plan. Although our paratroopers completed their assigned tasks - they captured airfields, ZKP ...., but our "heavy" units were not there. The Armed Forces of Ukraine, under the leadership of the small British, stupidly shot our units with the help of artillery and drones, but ours had nothing to answer. This does not touch the heroism of our paratroopers. When fire support helicopters were called from the territory of Belarus, while they took off, they flew - the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, after inflicting fire damage, managed to hide in the forests near Kyiv. And when our people realized that Medvedchuk had long been in the "basement" of the SBU, a decision was made to withdraw the troops. Such forces had nothing to do there. And our eternal question arose. "Who is to blame and what to do?". Initially, the bet on Medvedchuk was wrong. This pretzel did everything so that we would not be greeted with flowers. In general, this citizen in Ukraine was not perceived by either the Reds, the Whites, or the Greens ..... In my opinion, there is and has never been a more rotten person in Ukraine than Medvedchuk. Even Vitya Yanukovych, he is lousy, compared to him "darling".
    1. +1
      30 August 2022 09: 14
      There, not only paratroopers were involved near Kyiv, but also lightly armed Russian guards, including sobrovtsy with riot police.
      1. +2
        30 August 2022 09: 18
        I kind of wrote the units were "light", they don't capture cities with such forces, especially Kyiv.
    2. +6
      30 August 2022 10: 29
      Quote: Vladimir M
      In my opinion, there is no more rotten person in Ukraine than Medvedchuk. Even Vitya Yanukovych, he is lousy, compared to him "darling".

      Our media have kept silent about him, and this is very strange. Maybe they exchanged him for Taira-Saira or for the Azov people.
      1. +4
        30 August 2022 11: 16
        If so, then this is vile in relation to our dead warriors.
        1. 0
          31 August 2022 02: 23
          Politicians have no such concept - "meanness". They operate with another term - "expediency".
      2. +1
        31 August 2022 02: 25
        L. Vershinin said that 42 "species" of "evacuated Azov" departed for "Jewry". Another exchange?
  18. +29
    30 August 2022 08: 05
    Another "writer" works out his three rubles. They went straight in a jamb, not a day without writing under the slogan - everything is going according to plan. We will look forward to the next “analytics” in October, when there will be no greenery, but nothing will change globally. But I believe that in October such writers will tell with absolute certainty that rain and mud interfere with the attack, then there will be frost in winter, greenery in spring, heat and dust in summer .... In general, there are no favorable climatic conditions for an offensive.
    1. +3
      30 August 2022 13: 53
      Well, Konashenkov cannot say at an evening briefing on TV that everything that the Supreme and the Defense Ministry planned turned out to be just dreams and fantasies that have nothing to do with reality, that Putin is still living in 2014, he thought that in Kyiv he would be met with flowers. .. The Knight of Liberty on a White T-90M in shining armor ... but everything turned out like this ... And there is no other plan yet, but it will definitely be soon)) And name the losses. Our ..
      1. -3
        30 August 2022 15: 20
        Yes, you have to think! Collect information, analyze intelligence data. Stand over the cards day and night ... Calculate reserves, rear, economy.
        Simply enlisting the support of your comrades and the public is not enough.
        First of all, you need to prepare well for such operations!
        1. -3
          30 August 2022 15: 24
          And more importantly, goals and objectives must be achievable.
          Even if not great, but definitely achievable.
  19. -15
    30 August 2022 08: 11
    Well, the clinical picture is very characteristic... Any opinion other than “Russia has lost the urgent need to mobilize the shooter in the main committee” causes hysteria among the site’s regulars, the desire to bombard the objectionable with minuses and insults, as well as explosions of “patriotic” intoxication in the name of citizen Strelkov-Vkolenny. Are these people deliberate enemies or just useful idiots?
    1. -8
      30 August 2022 09: 36
      I subscribe to every word
    2. AUL
      +7
      30 August 2022 10: 23
      Quote: Fedorovich
      Well, the clinical picture is very characteristic... Any opinion other than “Russia has lost the urgent need for mobilization of the shooter in the main committee” causes hysteria among the site’s regulars, the desire to fill the objectionable with minuses and insults,

      Does it bother you that other people can have an opinion different from yours, and they dare to express it? Get used to...
      1. -5
        30 August 2022 12: 06
        Present your telepath diploma, please.
        1. +3
          30 August 2022 13: 46
          I would very much like everything to be according to the author. Highly. Here I read, one after another, similar articles and more and more - I believe, I believe, I believe. May God give them health and prosperity. Reassure the old man.
  20. +13
    30 August 2022 08: 17
    From the beginning, we “throw hats”, then we explain why it didn’t work out ..
  21. +20
    30 August 2022 08: 18
    It's good to be such an analyst. He came up with the topics, he answered.
    Let those who justify the current standing tell why Nabiulina and Shuvalov remained in their places. Why are they not in a hurry to develop their own production, but pray for parallel imports. They destroyed their own automotive industry, now they will buy in China and Iran. They say the Czech Republic imposes sanctions against Grefbank, such that the bank, having lost billions, will fly out of this country, but Gref still does not recognize Crimea as Russian.
    By the way, not a single justifier of standing did not explain why I did not move the Ukrainian troops from Donetsk, thereby allowing the civilian population of Donbass to be killed.
    1. -14
      30 August 2022 08: 37
      Quote: Gardamir
      Let those who justify the current standing tell why Nabiulina and Shuvalov remained in their places

      And many more thousands of proteges of the State Department all over the country who have settled in the administration ...

      Answer:

      "State policy and governance in a crowd- "elite" society is an agreement reached on the capabilities of various clan-corporate groupings to use the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals ".

      What happens in a country when inter-clan agreements are violated is clearly seen in the example of the United States, when Trump "hacked" the established political stability - the country from the category of hegemon turns into a third world country.

      Putin, having the constitutional right to conduct foreign policy, with the hands of the West makes the enemies of Russia work for the interests of Russia.

      It is possible to remove Siluanov, Nabiulina, etc., but who will take their place? Who has their level of competence? To prepare new personnel, time is needed, the time of which Russia does not have.

      1. ban
        +10
        30 August 2022 08: 53
        It is possible to remove Siluanov, Nabiulina, etc., but who will take their place? Who has their level of competence?


        Is this some kind of joke? Where do they get their competence?
        And how, friends, you don’t sit down, everyone is not good at musicians - this is just about our rotten top.
        1. -11
          30 August 2022 09: 36
          Quote: ban
          Is this some kind of joke? Where do they get their competence?

          Do you have? Do you know how a debit differs from a loan? laughing
          1. +9
            30 August 2022 10: 14
            When asking questions like this, it's a good idea to first figure out how the word "debit" is spelled. wink
            1. -11
              30 August 2022 11: 13
              Quote: Ivanchester
              how to spell debit

              Ltd! Do you even know it? Well, then you can definitely replace Nabiulina. laughing

              More traitors.

              Mironov put forward an initiative to recognize Ukraine the state (terrorist). As soon as we recognize the Binder gang as a state that has seized Ukraine, the United States will conclude an agreement on assistance with it, and then, on a legitimate basis, US troops (NATO) will openly go to war with Russia.
              Here is such a head of a faction in the State Duma ...

              Another, the head of the Liberal Democratic Party, Slutsky and Medinsky, simply offer Russia to surrender.
              About Medvedev, Muller with their Echo and Rain, and so everything is clear to everyone.
            2. -1
              1 September 2022 10: 02
              Debit, right?
              1. +1
                1 September 2022 10: 30
                If in the accounting sense, i.e. income-expense, then debit-credit is written.
                In this case, the words debtor and receivables are written through "I".

                Thematic joke.
                In one company, for many, many years, a certain old man worked as a chief accountant. He has worked there for many years. Employees noticed one oddity behind him: when he was sitting at his desk, he always pulled out a little drawer of the table and constantly looked in there, but as soon as he approached him, he immediately moved it. This terrible secret simply plagued everyone: what is he hiding there ?! Finally, the time has come for him to retire. They saw him off, noted, - and everyone ran to the table, to see what he was hiding there. They open it, and there is a small, greasy piece of paper: "Credit at the window, debit at the wall."
                1. -1
                  1 September 2022 10: 46
                  Aaaaaah, clearly.
      2. +12
        30 August 2022 09: 36
        Does Nabiullina have a "set of competencies"? Have you seen her biography? She did not go anywhere outside the Garden Ring, jumping out to marry Kuzminov. True, her son is in Norway, a NATO country, but apparently, the head of the Central Bank, approved by the State Duma on the proposal of the president, is a small fry, who does not decide anything in the management of Russia.
      3. +3
        30 August 2022 11: 29
        Yeah, well, of course not (time). From the age of 14, there was not enough time. Where can I fix it in half a year.
      4. +3
        30 August 2022 14: 01
        Nabiullina’s competencies? Are you kidding like that? Or Siluanov’s? there will be more ... If only because he is not a traitor.
    2. +7
      30 August 2022 09: 15
      Quote: Gardamir
      By the way, not a single justifier of standing did not explain why I did not move the Ukrainian troops from Donetsk, thereby allowing the civilian population of Donbass to be killed.

      How else to explain! Shoigu himself explained. There are also residents of Donbass, and the high pace of the offensive will lead to heavy casualties among them. The truth does not explain why they didn’t bring them in Mariupol, but they will bring them in Slavyansk, for example, or in Nikolaev.
    3. +6
      30 August 2022 09: 23
      [/ quote] Why are they not in a hurry to develop their own production, but pray for parallel imports. [quote]

      Because it is very difficult to create your own production. Because young people want to be bloggers and top managers, not industrial workers and hard-working engineers.
      1. +2
        30 August 2022 17: 03
        Pay workers as bloggers and managers and you will be happy.
    4. -4
      30 August 2022 12: 08
      I hope you understand that in reality you cannot build a factory by pressing a button and waiting a couple of minutes?
      1. +7
        30 August 2022 17: 05
        Is it possible to build a plant and train a team in 8 years?
        1. -3
          30 August 2022 18: 13
          If the acquired competencies need to be restored from scratch, at best, this will be enough back to back.
          1. +3
            30 August 2022 18: 41
            But they didn’t even try with us, and even now the law on parallel imports has been adopted instead of import substitution and they are satisfied. They changed the needle of European dependence to Chinese-Iranian and that's it.
    5. +3
      31 August 2022 02: 40
      What, don't you understand? Yes, already a thousand times said: a cunning plan in action! And some - who in their fantasies in Marinka and Avdeevka built an insurmountable fortification line - at the same time both the Maginot, and the Mannerheim, and the Metaxas, and all the others, others, others. Forgetting, at the same time, to state that the DPR has nothing to storm with (infantry is exhausted), and the Russian Federation is afraid to use DBA for a massive air raid because of the well-built air defense system of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Meanwhile, Donetsk continues to live in a military and domestic hell - artillery attacks almost on schedule, lack of water, unsanitary conditions and the inability to evacuate.
  22. -10
    30 August 2022 08: 42
    A lot of confirmed information that we are waiting for autumn / winter. The absence of greenery will indeed speed up the process of our advancement at times. Yes, and the West will obviously be hard...at least, cold without gas. Let's see how they prepare for this.
    1. +11
      30 August 2022 09: 17
      It was a good excuse for the 20th century. With modern reconnaissance means, brilliant green does not play a role.
      Oh yes, we have everything modern only in parades, but in fact the T-62 is fighting. Everything goes according to plan...
      1. -7
        30 August 2022 09: 50
        I understand correctly, in your opinion, we all p...? Or how? That is, now we all have to stand up together and say: “yes, the presence of a more visible territory will not help us at all. We all will die! And Europe does not need gas! And the release of the UAV is also not important. Let's just fold our hands on our knees and wait and listen to how they pour mud on us from the west.
        The author expressed his opinion. I support.
        But no one says that everything was planned in February this way.
        1. +6
          30 August 2022 10: 14
          Quote: Thanos
          I understand correctly, in your opinion, we all p...? Or how? That is, now we all have to stand up together and say: “yes, the presence of a more visible territory will not help us at all. We all will die! And Europe does not need gas! And the release of the UAV is also not important. Let's just fold our hands on our knees and wait and listen to how they pour mud on us from the west.

          No, not correct. They also forgot the Shoigu medals and hand them to others ...
          In fact, it is necessary to draw the right conclusions, and above all to the people of the Russian Federation. Because those who lead the way are simply not able to draw the right conclusions. Otherwise, there would be no such situation at all.
          1. +3
            30 August 2022 14: 06
            To the point! After the Ukrainians did not give up, as in the Crimea, Putin and the Defense Ministry simply do not know what to do next ... Stupidly it doesn’t work out on the forehead, but they don’t know how to do it differently.
            1. +2
              30 August 2022 15: 58
              Ukrainians did not give up, as in Crimea
              Many have forgotten or ignored it. But even then there were military units that began to shoot back. But soon followed by a stern phone call from Kyiv. And some gave up. The Kremlin thought to repeat this trick, but they were thrown. Russia is ruled by lodges and terpils.
    2. +15
      30 August 2022 09: 57
      Who gets in the way there, greenery, fog, mud, snow, rain? Fight at night in dense greenery. Distance 10-15 meters. Not everyone has thermal imagers in response, a logical question immediately follows, what prevents us from providing troops with thermal imagers and good communications. Before the early crisis, Russia rowed money with buckets, after the crisis with shovels, now it’s just wagons, a cube of 3500 costs, and believe me, we sell it in the same way as before the start of the NWO.
      б
      1. +12
        30 August 2022 11: 13
        Quote: igorka357
        Not everyone has thermal imagers in response, a logical question immediately follows, what prevents us from providing troops with thermal imagers and good communications.

        The indifference of the upper ranks, who are satisfied with everything. It seems that only the lower ranks and volunteers do not give a damn, that they are taking it to the front, collecting it from the world one by one.
        1. +3
          30 August 2022 14: 33
          It's not spitting, it's worse. Endemic theft, fraud, work for the heels of all the top ranks. The main thing there was to fill your pockets in peacetime, and the war ... maybe there won't be. And if it will, it’s not the same to go to the front. Well, now it's too late to drink Borjomi ... Their own teploki, UAVs, surveillance systems, encrypted communications will not suddenly be developed and will not go into mass production. Well, with Iran and China, apparently, something went wrong.
    3. +6
      30 August 2022 11: 28
      Quote: Thanos
      A lot of confirmed information that we are waiting for autumn / winter. The absence of greenery will indeed speed up the process of our advancement at times.

      I can't remember - in what month of spring or summer did NWO begin? laughing Or was February warm in summer? What if October and November are the same? And the leaves won't fall?
      1. +6
        30 August 2022 11: 46
        Quote: victor50

        I can't remember - in what month of spring or summer did NWO begin? laughing Or was February warm in summer? What if October and November are the same? And the leaves won't fall?


        So, in fact, they started in February ... when there was no brilliant green, but they did not expect such zeal from the other side. Tried to "softly" go. We wanted to look like saviors!
        And now I will not give my assessment of those methods of conducting the operation.
        We have what we have.
    4. 0
      1 September 2022 10: 05
      Of course, of course, they will definitely freeze. And our troops will not be cold in the trenches, no?
  23. ban
    +7
    30 August 2022 08: 42
    Yes, we just throw hats on them, yeah ...

    I wonder how much they pay for such agitation these days?
    1. 0
      1 September 2022 10: 07
      It is obvious that there is enough for bread and butter, once they appear and appear.
  24. -11
    30 August 2022 08: 43
    Time is playing against Russia. If the destruction of Western technology continues at least at the current level, then the day is not far off when Europe will say, "Not to feed the horse." And he will refuse to help. Moreover, things are not "Ah" in Europe itself.
    1. +8
      30 August 2022 11: 31
      Quote: nikvic46
      If the destruction of Western technology continues at least at the current level, then the day is not far off when Europe will say, "Not to feed the horse." And refuse to help.

      Or start producing and supplying more.
    2. +1
      30 August 2022 12: 15
      Feed will not happen to the horse, not because NATO Europe and the United States will run out of military equipment or money, but because they will understand that they could not crush and destroy Russia in this way. The question is our potential of the military-industrial complex, which is also not rubber, and there is no Stalin now, so that he would put up against the wall for the stolen state ruble, and we have clouds of bureaucrats of embezzlers of public funds.
    3. +1
      30 August 2022 14: 37
      That is, Western technology is being destroyed by us, but our technology is not being destroyed by them? Is there no loss / equipment was not damaged? Oh well...
    4. +7
      30 August 2022 17: 09
      Will we have a new crop of tanks ready for harvest in October or are they self-repairing and self-repairing?
  25. +14
    30 August 2022 08: 44
    An article to justify the mistakes and failures of our leadership .. The Armed Forces of Ukraine freely transfer tanks from one area to another. Artillery strikes, the enemy captures a foothold on the other side of the river. There's a lot to be said. We grind the enemy in a positional war while our grandchildren grow up. We haven’t started yet, this undertaking was enough for the enemy to realize that Russia is the USSR, we can crush the enemy as before, and as a result, the United States and NATO are pumping weapons to Ukraine. Helping with intelligence data. And about the shelling of nuclear power plants, this is babble and an appeal to the UN, here half of the country can be covered with a radioactive cloud. Crimean, which means you can hit him.
  26. +6
    30 August 2022 08: 59
    "The USSR also faced similar problems during the Vietnam War."

    Are you confusing Vietnam with Afghanistan?
    1. +1
      30 August 2022 17: 12
      Rather, for the first time, the USSR encountered such a problem near Warsaw in the year 20 and with Finland before WWII.
  27. +2
    30 August 2022 09: 03
    NWO in Ukraine: what is happening and what to expect next

    We are discussing on the verge of a foul. Is this how dissatisfied and foreign agents are identified?
    Everything has been shelved for a long time. Let the participants of the SVO themselves speak - what prevents them from completing the task quickly, accurately and on time.
    *****
    I can only add that people in "various" uniforms often flash in the videos. It's time to put things in order here. If the NM LDNR is fighting against IEDs, then it’s time to dress up and arm the guys, and not play guerrilla wars ...
    *****
    Nothing good is to come in the near future. The main task - demilitarization - has not been completed. It’s too early to talk about denazification, since loyal Ukrainians can actually turn out to be terrorist killers, fire spotters, or ordinary saboteurs.
    I don't guarantee. that the wave of poisoning of wells, the stuffing of various ampoules with some kind of plague pathogens and other gifts from Bandera's followers will not pass.
    1. +2
      30 August 2022 11: 38
      The participants of the NWO are not up to discussion, they would have to complete the combat mission and stay alive.
  28. Cat
    +14
    30 August 2022 09: 29
    I believe that the purpose of this article is to form among readers a firm confidence in the wisdom of the top military-political leadership, not only of the Russian Federation, but also of NATO.
    Well, let's say it's formed. But the question remains - what's next?
    In fact, we have a classic positional impasse (both military and political), from which there is no way out. Actually, all that remains is a war of attrition, the outcome of which depends on how long the West can / wants to support Ukraine's bloomers, and the losses of Russian business will remain within the permissible greed of its owners, since NATO will never fit in for Ukraine directly, and the Russian Federation will never will begin mass mobilization in a broad sense, tk. it will throw her economy below the floor.
    Okay, let's sum up, before the results sum us up: the NWO will not end either this year or the next, and in general there is a possibility of it turning into some kind of another thirty-year war. Unless, of course, according to the joyful forecasts of our media, the EU does not freeze to dog pigs this winter, and the Trumpists do not fight with BLM in the states. That's all hope sad
    But what about leadership wisdom?
    Let's leave this question unanswered.
    1. +3
      30 August 2022 11: 16
      Quote: Gato
      Unless, of course, according to the joyful forecasts of our media, the EU does not freeze to dog pigs this winter, and the Trumpists do not fight with BLM in the states. That's all hope

      I would not like it to be so. If you are right, then the outcome of the conflict largely depends on external factors, on which we have only an indirect influence. Somehow it's not good at all recourse
      Your version is supported by the fact that no active actions capable of leading to victory on the battlefield have been seen for a long time.
      "Maybe it will resolve itself?" recourse request
    2. +3
      30 August 2022 11: 43
      What is the wisdom of our leadership - the creation of an olegarchic-bureaucratic state, the Armed Forces for a small local war with planning to defeat the partisans, there are more forces of the National Guard than the army. And the swan song is the Constitution for the president.
    3. -6
      30 August 2022 12: 12
      You may have a dead end. Or vice versa. But only you...
    4. 0
      1 September 2022 10: 10
      So after all, they won’t freeze and won’t fight.
  29. +13
    30 August 2022 09: 29
    Bringing troops to Kyiv, at the same time putting as many soldiers as died in the Afghan war in a year, and then giving up this bridgehead without any concessions from Zelensky as a "goodwill gesture" is, of course, the pinnacle of military planning. Now the author proposes to wait for October, when the foliage will come down, and then "we will start for real." By October, however, additional military aid from the United States will be brought up along bridges and railways, which the command of the Russian Armed Forces did not bother to destroy in 6 months. By the way, the US assistance package will also include air defense systems, which will greatly complicate the life of the Aerospace Forces. And why is the Ukrainian General Staff not waiting for October, having launched a counterattack on Kherson? And killing in batches those who went to cooperate with Russia. Yes, because the belligerent side must have confidence in victory, which you will not gain by sitting in the trenches until October.
  30. -20
    30 August 2022 09: 33
    I read the comments and think: what resource am I on? In Russian or Ukrainian? And certainly among the commentators of TsIPsOshnikov and emigrants - like uncut dogs. So much barely disguised anti-Russian anger, so much all-out propaganda...
    Yes, and the style of conversation is from Ukrainian forums. Half of the posts begin with personal attacks on the author. Half of the posts are accused of "propaganda".

    And the article is very sound, reasoned.
    1. +7
      30 August 2022 09: 45
      A particularly strong argument is in favor of the need to abandon mobilization, which will undermine social stability. Raising the retirement age by 5 years will not shake it, the loss of 300 billion gold reserves will not shake it either, the demonstrative release of Roizman, who was accused of insulting the Armed Forces, only strengthens, as does Meladze’s speech, who declared that he had nothing to do with Russia, at a party in the center of Moscow , social sustainability simply cements. But mobilization - yes, the hidden hand of American imperialism.
    2. +5
      30 August 2022 11: 50
      Well, it’s right that we criticize the enemies, agents of enemy intelligence. Bad roads - gays are to blame, corruption - lesbians are to blame. If the leader is not held accountable for poor work that resulted in the death of people, then in your opinion we should clap our hands turning into a standing ovation, there is no need to explain the word ovation and where it came from.
    3. +7
      30 August 2022 12: 26
      I welcome the namesake, calling me personally a pro-Western, a tsipsoshnik, and a traitor .. well, this is not in any framework. I am a true patriot, and I would only be glad if our Armed Forces gouged this unfinished Ukrainian junta in a week. Even at the cost of great sacrifices. But the bottom line is that a positional war will be much more abundant in terms of casualties. Only if my country would lose only human lives in a quick defeat, then at this pace we can also lose the economy, and there already Russia itself .. Personal attacks on the authors, this is because every second article on VO is about slowing down the pace of the NWO, and what to do .. Tired. And yet ... maybe after six months, people began to see the helplessness of the military leadership, began to understand that the super equipment of the army is only shown on TV? Yes, we can raze Ukraine to the ground in a week, and even in a couple of days. Personally, I would have done the same with my psycho, one offer to join the Russian Federation, if refused, then I would have buried everyone there together with the peacekeeper, since our guys are now fighting with this "peacekeeper" .. And believe me, there would be no more a mongrel from pr Balts, Poles .. and others like them, would not bark at Russia, and the people would carry me in their arms .. it’s still good that I’m not the commander in chief ..
      1. +5
        30 August 2022 14: 09
        I didn't want to write, it's hard to comment on something lately... It's just that these six months have been hard for everything to develop like this. It hurts for all of us.
        But I have to agree with you. At the beginning of the SVO, all the enemies were pissed off with fear, columns of refugees from Ukraine, world media reports that Kyiv would be taken in 3-4 days, etc. It was clear that if you press now, Ukraine will collapse. Yes, she collapsed. But almost.
        It seemed that a large-scale military operation had already begun, that first contract soldiers, and then other military formations, were entering from the territory of Belarus and our western borders. A lot of. Which will roll with an inexorable roller to Kyiv (at least), and then go to the borders with Europe.
        Despite pockets of resistance and certain losses on our part, our troops, covering enemy defense centers, with confident air strikes, artillery and armored vehicles will capture or destroy the infrastructure of Ukraine, weapons depots, equipment storage sites, airfields.
        Zelensky will flee to London and form a government in exile.
        A military administration will be at the head of Ukraine.
        Victory.
        But here it is not. And the whole world, having recovered from the fear of the first week of NWO, looks at the teddy bear. And such longing for lost opportunities, for future victims, which will now be many times more.
        1. -2
          30 August 2022 14: 13
          It would be better not to write then.
        2. -6
          30 August 2022 15: 40
          It's all right and wrong...
          We are all together: those who are in battle, and those who are at home, and those who lead, and those who command the troops - we are learning! Learn the Science of Winning! Defeat the enemy in combat by planning operations and providing logistics. Defeat the lies and lies of the Western patrons of Ukraine, overcome your weaknesses and habits of a comfortable life!
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  33. +4
    30 August 2022 09: 53
    – China and Taiwan (an issue that could one day make the world switch to hieroglyphic news reports);

    – the situation in Serbia;

    - Transnistria;

    - Nagorno-Karabakh;

    – Poland and western Ukraine;

    – the gas valve and the consequences of the crisis for Europe;

    - Republic of Belarus;

    - political opposition within Western countries (Germany, France, the Baltic states).


    I do not understand. And which of these cards, according to the author, can be played by "us" and not yet on the table?
    1. -1
      30 August 2022 12: 36
      Well, at least the last three.
      1. +3
        30 August 2022 12: 47
        Quote: Negro
        the gas valve and the consequences of the crisis for Europe;

        The faucet is almost all the way in, if you're watching. Germany and Italy are already turned off or almost turned off "for haircuts", France is going to be turned off one of these days.
        This card is discarded and beaten.
        Quote: Negro
        The Republic of Belarus

        The Republic of Belarus is not your map, you see. If we suddenly say goodbye to Mr. Lukashenko, it is unlikely that the Russian Federation has the resources to push through some of its options there. And any freely elected president of Belarus will be to the right of Yarosh.
        Quote: Negro
        political opposition within Western countries (Germany, France, the Baltic

        It is most advantageous for the political opposition to arrange a big trial for high treason and imprison all respected partners of Russia for life. Start with Schroeder, continue with Merkel.
        1. -3
          30 August 2022 13: 21
          And it is precisely for this reason that Scholz is now, as if on a hot frying pan, spinning from no source. As you put it, we will not say goodbye to Mr. Lukashenko in the near future either .. So the processes against "respected partners" are beneficial to Russia in terms of propaganda ..
          1. +3
            30 August 2022 17: 41
            Quote: igorka357
            And it is precisely for this reason that Scholz is now, as if on a hot frying pan, spinning from no source.

            Scholz, on the contrary, rides like cheese in butter. He, a communist from Hamburg, only enjoys giving out heating coupons to the Germans. He fights against capitalism as best he can.
            Quote: igorka357
            As you put it, we will not say goodbye to Mr. Lukashenko in the near future either.

            This, you know, is up to our respected partners to decide whether we say goodbye to him or not. RB and PMR are obvious options for moderate escalation if such a decision is made.
            Quote: igorka357
            So the trials of "respected partners" are beneficial to Russia in terms of propaganda.

            After such processes, it will take 30 years to wait for a new Willy Brandt. And not the fact that you will wait. The Americans have spent 5 years trying to figure out which of them is a Russian spy - as a result, all ideas about the reset and peace, friendship, chewing gum are excluded from the political field.
  34. +4
    30 August 2022 09: 59
    From TG Maria Shukshina. This is not about mobilization, but the formation of volunteer battalions. It seems that there are some parallel "verticals" operating in the country. "Sabotage or incompetence?

    The authorities of St. Petersburg, having announced the creation of three battalions of volunteers to participate in the Special Military Operation, could not or did not want to go further than words.

    In the city on the Neva, the government of the region did not go further than choosing the names of the future detachments "Neva", "Kronstadt" and "Pavlovsk".
    The recruitment of volunteers was entrusted to the districts of the city, which hastened to push the duty to the military registration and enlistment offices and municipalities, while, according to the source, no resources were allocated to attract people.

    Smolny also refused from a large media campaign to attract those who wish to take part in the NWO to the newly formed battalions.
    The plan to involve artists and opinion leaders was rejected by Governor Beglov, allegedly because of his unwillingness to stir up public opinion.
    It is all the more surprising that without any agitation and available information, a little more than a hundred people were able to enroll in the detachments being formed.

    Such a deplorable state of affairs with the formation of volunteer units in St. Petersburg suggests thoughts of deliberate sabotage, and also makes one recall recent publications in the press about the connections of the city governor with the notorious Ukrainian oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, a well-known sponsor of the neo-Nazi Azov battalion *.

    *banned in Russia.
    1. +1
      30 August 2022 10: 59
      Quote: Boris Sergeev
      Such a deplorable state of affairs with the formation of volunteer units in St. Petersburg suggests thoughts of deliberate sabotage,

      So you think that the problem is only in the lack of advertising?
      1. -2
        30 August 2022 14: 54
        From the text it follows quite clearly that the problem is the lack of state support for the formation of volunteer units. Or is Russian not your native language?
        1. 0
          30 August 2022 17: 41
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          From the text it follows quite clearly that the problem is the lack of state support for the formation of volunteer units.

          And what should it be? Please explain how you see it hi
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          Or is Russian not your native language?

          Throw on a fan? Take it easy. Native.
          1. -1
            31 August 2022 02: 41
            If the entire formation of units was reduced to an instruction to local deputies to find 20 people each (no one will ask for the fulfillment of the order, of course, they don’t ask us for the fulfillment of the president’s instructions), then how will the residents of the city even know that such a recruitment is being carried out?
            1. -1
              31 August 2022 06: 01
              This is not to mention the fact that it is the government that should now put forward the slogan Everything for the front, everything for the Victory! And live by it.
    2. -3
      30 August 2022 16: 16
      Maybe there are few who want it. Compared to the outback in St. Petersburg, they get quite well.
      1. 0
        30 August 2022 18: 01
        100 thousand governors at once and the usual salary of a contract soldier.
        After sending to the front - 3000 daily + 8000 combat.
        Another surcharge for VUS, a monthly surcharge for a tanker of 100 tons.
        In St. Petersburg they don’t earn that much, you can come and join, they accept non-residents.
        1. -4
          30 August 2022 18: 46
          I am not a tanker and I am 59 years old.
          1. -4
            30 August 2022 19: 51
            Here in St. Petersburg the population is very old. All fit already either on a contract, or in the police and the National Guard.
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  35. +13
    30 August 2022 10: 18
    It is not clear what is happening in this "SVO". The enemy does everything "according to science": destroys the leadership in the occupied territories by sabotage, destroys enemy infrastructure, disrupts the logistics of supplies, mobilizes and calls up reservists, and conducts a competent information policy. And the CJSC of the Russian Federation tells everything: “we are like that, our task is to save the lives of Bandera, infrastructure” (which, by the way, the Bandera people still destroy during the retreat) and other nonsense, they don’t touch Internal traitors at all, the information war is currently lost miserably. Ukrotroyska calmly drive around in columns in broad daylight. After six months of all this bacchanalia, one gets the impression that, under the blessed pretext of "defending the Donbass," some of the Russian elite are fulfilling the order of the globalists to discredit the power institutions of Russia and the Russian state itself. What consequences this will lead to both within the Russian Federation itself and in the international arena can only be horrified.
  36. +4
    30 August 2022 10: 21
    Quote: Stas157
    You can throw stones at me, but I will never believe that a brilliant withdrawal from Kyiv was originally planned, the usual shelling of our territories for the 6th month of successful hostilities, an altruistic gift of 300-400 billion dollars of our gold reserves ...

    Then what is it? Unrealistic planning? A stunning intelligence failure? No, no one will admit it. We are all over the place!

    that’s not))) they just thought at first that the ladies would throw caps into the air and meet the liberators Surkov with bread and salt, but before that Chernomyrdin did a lot to make the fraternal peoples draw closer))) even the police were dragged in columns, I wonder why))
  37. +9
    30 August 2022 10: 37
    - attack aircraft;
    - the number of artillery and the quality of the preparation of calculations;
    - the ability to strike with cruise missiles at important infrastructure facilities and places of accumulation of enemy forces throughout the entire depth of enemy territory;
    - the number of armored vehicles.

    So far, all the advantages of the RF Armed Forces are offset by their own problems
    - rocket troops and artillery, no proper reconnaissance and control
    - Air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has not been eliminated / there are no means and methods to operate effectively with unsuppressed air defense
    - Armored vehicles are not adapted to operations in conditions of dense anti-tank defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. (Insufficient security and information content on the battlefield)
  38. -7
    30 August 2022 10: 39
    During the military campaign in Vietnam, the greatest danger to the United States was not so much the war itself, but the social explosion within the country. It was conditioned by sending all the same conscripts to the war, not all of whom were eager to fight.

    1. If the public opinion of Russia today thinks about the NWO in Ukraine the same as the American about the war in Vietnam, then it would be better not to start the NWO and now it is not funny to leave Ukraine.
    If the author and public opinion in Russia do not understand the difference between the war in Vietnam 10 thousand kilometers from the United States and the NVO near the borders of Russia itself, then they will have a very unpleasant sobering up. Russia will not be able to go overseas. Russians have a choice today, as in the Great Patriotic War - the life or death of their state. If mobilization is not carried out now, but is again limited to half measures, then it will have to be carried out next summer, when the situation on the fronts will be much worse.
    2. The mobilization potential of Ukrainians, if they only have 25 million left, is at least 2 million. Foreign mercenaries will also find them. So with 150 thousand additional contract soldiers in the Russian army, it will be very difficult to win a war.
    1. -5
      30 August 2022 10: 56
      Russia will not be able to leave the ocean

      But the Ukrainians are doing great))))
      Those who are ridiculed by the author in the article, who have realized themselves as British and Americans.
      Which fall into the reports of the Western media already, and in a negative light most often.
      Foreign mercenaries will also find them

      The "foreigner" mercenaries have already found them, judging by you, a nayalnik)) Smart mercenary, however.
      if they only have 25 million left - at least 2 million

      times a millionA, two millionA .... MillionOV is spelled correctly. Didn't they teach you this at the training courses for the daughters of officers?
      1. +2
        30 August 2022 14: 33
        .MillionOV spelled correctly
        Bulgarian commentator.
      2. +2
        30 August 2022 15: 25
        He is Bulgarian. He is forgiven.
  39. +8
    30 August 2022 10: 47
    Another attempt to explain that everything is going well.
    And now we remember how Western embassies were evacuated from Kyiv in anticipation that it would be captured.
    Because the West was sure that Ukraine would lose, and that it would quickly lose.
    1. +3
      30 August 2022 14: 19
      Just like Putin, this achievement, like in 2014, the Donbass, merged.
  40. +3
    30 August 2022 10: 54
    In order for the ambush tactics to work as efficiently as possible, it is necessary to achieve maximum secrecy of fire weapons, and the best helper in this is the "brilliant green". It largely neutralizes Russia's advantage in artillery and strike aircraft, and also increases the effectiveness of Ukrainian DRGs.
    As long as there are leaves on the trees, it is extremely undesirable for Russia to conduct large-scale offensive operations.
    The good news for us is that the “Vietnamese” scenario in Ukraine does not work all year round. And in mid-October, when the leaves fall from the trees, the situation will change dramatically - Russia will be able to realize its advantage to the fullest extent possible.

    It looks like we have some kind of "seasonal" army. Well it's not the season now for war request
    It is during this period that new offensive operations should be expected.

    Yes Yes. When the rains come and will carry all the roads without a hard surface. Then let's go where the asphalt is like a thread ...
    As for Kyiv and its environs, this area is extremely favorable for ambush operations against the accumulation of equipment. It did not seem expedient to take Kyiv, and it was simply pointless to stand still under attacks from ambushes, exchanging at an “unfavorable rate”.

    And where ambushes are possible, we won’t fight at all request wassat
    1. -2
      30 August 2022 11: 06
      Quote: Adrey
      It looks like we have some kind of "seasonal" army. Well it's not the season now for war

      Actually, it's like that for everyone.


      Or the Wehrmacht
      “All tractors are out of order. You have to harness 6 horses to the cannon. However, it's useless. The four front ones must be led by hand, and someone must ride on the two side ones, because if a person does not rest his foot on the shaft, it beats the horse in the side with every step. In 30-degree frost in our narrow boots, the fingers freeze before you even have time to feel it. There is no one in the whole battery who would not have frostbitten fingers or heel.
      1. +2
        30 August 2022 11: 20
        Let's dive deeper into history, shall we? wassat
  41. +3
    30 August 2022 10: 58
    some of the Russian elite are fulfilling the order of the globalists to discredit the power institutions of Russia and the Russian state itself ... [/ quote]

    Again, this mythical, invisible and elusive Someone! The head is responsible for the whole mess that happens in the state. The president. Therefore, either the "mess" is controlled, and therefore necessary. Or, soon the repetition of the historical phrase "circle of treason." What happened next - everyone knows ...
    1. -2
      30 August 2022 11: 14
      Quote: Hindu
      What happened next - everyone knows ...

      Yeah ... all Indians were banned. But Krishna is still Harya... request
  42. +6
    30 August 2022 11: 02
    When advancing, the army is forced to move in relatively large columns along the roads, and each "ribbon" in this case becomes a very good target for any artillery weapon. Unfortunately, this is exactly what we saw at the beginning of the NWO - in one of the previous articles, I already mentioned that it was a huge mistake to move in columns before measures were taken to suppress enemy artillery.

    If when advancing it is impossible to move in large columns along the roads, then the million-strong Russian army will advance off the roads in battle formations. In Korea, the Chinese People's Volunteers advanced very successfully for 12 hours 40-50 kilometers only on their own feet with everything necessary for combat on their shoulders. And without any suppression of enemy artillery and aircraft. I myself did, with my battalion, foot marches 16 kilometers in 2 hours with full combat equipment.
    At the same time, a million-strong infantry is able to very effectively clear its til and occupied territory and cities from all sorts of DRGs and enemy saboteurs.
  43. +3
    30 August 2022 11: 03
    As long as there are leaves on the trees, it is extremely undesirable for Russia to conduct large-scale offensive operations.

    To ensure combat operations in such conditions, there are the GRU, military and other intelligence, satellite constellation, AWACS aviation, thermal imagers, drones and UAVs, banal observation, and other "analogues in the world", which, if you believe (and how can you not believe, this is true) to our bureaucrats and the media, our effective managers, though without specialized education, are riveted - there will be nowhere to go. And judging by the masterpiece yachts and villas, then with technology everything is fine with us and the dough is heaped up, even for "toys for measuring wee-wee" enough.
  44. -4
    30 August 2022 11: 08
    Quote: Kostadinov
    If the public opinion of Russia today thinks about the NWO in Ukraine the same as the American one about the war in Vietnam, then it would be better not to start the NWO and now it is not funny to leave Ukraine.

    If you allow, then let's discuss the articles "Lucy" in this spirit on your "square", and here on the site we ourselves will somehow figure it out.
  45. +8
    30 August 2022 11: 18
    Quote: Boris Sergeev
    Does Nabiullina have a "set of competencies"?

    She is a diligent Yale graduate and a meticulous follower of IMF instructions, "accidentally" also a spouse, also a very "interesting" personality for special agencies, who until recently headed the "blue oyster" (HSE).
  46. +6
    30 August 2022 11: 25
    The total advantage of the Russian army in truly important elements has not gone away. These elements include:
    - attack aircraft;
    - the number of artillery and the quality of the preparation of calculations;
    - the ability to strike with cruise missiles at important infrastructure facilities and places of accumulation of enemy forces throughout the entire depth of enemy territory;
    - the number of armored vehicles.

    The presence of a total military advantage "in important elements" leads to a decisive result. Seven months of NMD show that the Russian army with the current grouping and current methods is not able not only to defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but even to inflict a major defeat on them.
    - Assault aviation - its grouping is clearly insufficient for such a theater and its effective use is hampered by the enemy's huge number of MANPADS (and even more serious Ukrainian air defense has not been destroyed at all). NUR launches from a nose-up on the front line are not an important element, but a profanity;
    - Artillery yes, indeed more. The quality of artillery fire is still low. WWXNUMX-style barrages, poor response time, lack of precision-guided munitions. As for the quality of the preparation of calculations, then on the basis of what was the conclusion made about the superiority of the Russian army?
    - the ability to strike with cruise missiles at important infrastructure facilities and places of accumulation of enemy forces.
    A dozen rockets a day is not something that can be considered an "important element." Yes, and the choice of goals leaves a lot of questions. The worst thing, however, is that the Ukrainians have made significant progress in this matter. Now they regularly deliver accurate strikes on the rear of Russian troops. They have funds for this and their number will only increase.
    - the number of armored vehicles.
    Do T-62s from storage provide an advantage? In terms of quantity, there is perhaps a general advantage, but far from being a total one.
  47. +9
    30 August 2022 11: 37
    1. The capture of Mariupol and the creation of a bridgehead on the Black Sea for a further offensive on Odessa.

    2. The United States spent 8 years on the creation of national battalions, their training, armament and training. All this was destroyed. Stocks of expensive and complex weapons were also lost by Ukraine (some were used with varying degrees of effectiveness, some were destroyed by air strikes in warehouses and caches, some were captured by ours as trophies).

    3. The stocks of "Bayraktars" and weapons for them were knocked out.

    4. Oil refineries, elements of railway infrastructure and repair facilities on the territory of Ukraine were destroyed, which together greatly reduced the ability of Ukraine to form and maintain any large motorized formations.

    5. A significant number of Ukrainian air defense and aviation systems were destroyed - losses that Ukraine will not be able to compensate for in any way.

    6. The economy was undermined. In fact, Ukraine has become a weight on the leg of the West. And ahead of winter.


    1. The capture of Mariupol is a strategically dubious achievement. A large grouping of Russian troops and LDNR troops was diverted to storm the city, and the pace of the offensive in the south was slowed down. Again, big loss. Victory, but not giving strategic results.
    2. It's just some kind of parallel reality. All the "expensive and complex" weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it turns out, have been destroyed. In view of this, they, apparently, are holding the front with Mosin rifles and on the T-62. Oh, no .. By the end of the year, the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will, as it were, become no more modern than in February.
    3. "Bayraktar" - an ordinary UAV of medium characteristics, which has turned into some kind of "bogey". This is a consumable. It will be necessary - the Turks and fifty more are riveted.
    4. Here only shrug. Especially about the elements of railway infrastructure. Bridges? Depot? Tunnels? Nothing has just been done. About the refinery - yes, there were attempts. By the way, I thought that the fuel problem for Ukraine would be serious. But this is not even close now. They also supply civilian transport without problems.
    5. Air defense is being compensated, in fact, they have already begun. And much more modern systems. And what was there remains a significant factor. Air Force yes. undermined, but, frankly, no one expected that anything would remain of them for the 7th month of the war.
    6. This is a useful weight that solves a certain block of issues. I'm much more worried about the weight hanging on the mighty Russian economy.
  48. 0
    30 August 2022 11: 43
    They like to kick Strelkov-Girkin for his calls for mobilization. But for some reason, no one wants to understand what mobilization is and what it is like, and how it can affect the NWO. It’s easier to crow that the damned supporters of mobilization (who are also cissoshniks) just want to take and send half of the peasants of Russia to the front, so that they are all killed there, and the society revolts. In fact, mobilization will only be a plus even if not a single mobilized one ends up going to the front. Because mobilization is also about providing the rear of the belligerents too.
    1. +11
      30 August 2022 12: 21
      By the way, Strelkov (Girkin, if you like) never spoke about the need for general mobilization. He specifically clarified more than once that a partial mobilization of the storerooms for the most in-demand VES is necessary in order to:
      1. Preparation of replacements for the army in the field, which constantly suffers losses and is simply exhausted by continuous hostilities;
      2. Preparation of reserves to cover secondary directions, to carry out garrison service in the occupied territories;
      At the same time, it should be borne in mind that the mobilized require a significant period of time for retraining (about 6 months in a good way).
      Instead, all you can hear here are monkey cries about "he proposes to mobilize a million men and throw them into the attack right away." No, it's just a lie. He offers nothing of the kind.
      But the delay in mobilization measures just increases the chances that when the time comes for "X" the reserve will have to be thrown into battle almost on the move.
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  49. -1
    30 August 2022 11: 55
    Quote: Repellent
    Quote: Hindu
    What happened next - everyone knows ...

    Yeah ... all Indians were banned. But Krishna is still Harya... request


    Okay, if only Indians. They banned an entire empire there. True, then a great country, the USSR, appeared again. But, that's another story
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  51. -6
    30 August 2022 12: 14
    Quote: Boris Sergeev
    at the same time put as many soldiers as died in the Afghan war in a year

    That's exactly how dill propagandons are scorched.
  52. -8
    30 August 2022 12: 14
    Good article. I read it with interest.
  53. 0
    30 August 2022 13: 33
    Quote: max702
    And by the way, this agreement began to be implemented much earlier, namely with the elimination of the leaders of the LDPR, starting with Motor and Givi and ending with Zakharchenko.. These people simply would not have negotiated with Kiev because of their intransigence towards them, nor could they cooperate with them in the future those who would have come to power as a result of a military coup in 404, but all sorts of Khodakovskys, Tsarevs and others are very...

    Of the people you listed, three are commanders of military units and were not involved in politics at all, well, except for Khodakovsky in the period from 15 to 17, after which he concentrated exclusively on his brigade and some functions of a social activist. Zakharchenko was more of a security official than a politician and nevertheless acted based on the interests of Donbass first of all, and not on personal likes and dislikes, otherwise there would have been no Minsk agreements. Tsarev, after his departure from Ukraine, was essentially a public figure. And personally, I have great respect for these people who are an example for all Russian patriots, and therefore I am disgusted by the way you spoke with disdain about some of them. They are there, each in their own place, really fighting and working for the benefit of Russia.
    As for the agreement, if there was such a possibility, then I personally support that this card was played in an attempt to resolve the issue with one throw. It didn’t work out and it cost us great sacrifices, but let’s not forget that, other things being equal, the rush of our paratroopers to Pristina could then have ended completely differently and with other consequences.
  54. +3
    30 August 2022 14: 24
    In this article, we will try to figure out how things really are, whether mobilization is really a solution in the current situation, and when we should expect some significant shifts at the front.

    The author did not reveal the stated task; moreover, he slipped into some kind of mixture of factual facts and episodes from history that have nothing to do with the title topic. sad
  55. 0
    30 August 2022 14: 38
    From the entire article I realized that the only prerequisites for changing the situation is that soon there will be no green stuff. Well, let's wait, fortunately we don't have to wait that long. Maybe he really will trample.
    1. +1
      31 August 2022 17: 42
      The enemy won’t have any greenery, but we won’t have it either. The only advantage will be that the enemy’s DRG will be less able to hide.
  56. +5
    30 August 2022 14: 53
    NWO in Ukraine: what is happening and what to expect next

    And this question can only be answered by the Supreme Commander who, according to him, did not graduate from the General Staff Academy. Tellingly, “historian” Naryshkin has disappeared somewhere from the media space. Apparently they told him that there were other tasks besides speaking on TV. He apparently really liked it. First in the State Duma, and then in a position that requires silence and non-publicity. And generally speaking... . In those years when the young Soviet state was being built, and, accordingly, its intelligence services, it was justified that in these organizations there were people who were not professionals in the new business, but they went through the harsh years of underground struggle, including with the agents of the 3rd security department of the imperial police. And these fully motivated people were able to create intelligence and counterintelligence of the young Soviet state. The well-known operational games alone, such as Operation Trust and Syndicate, speak of the high professionalism and ideological motivation of those people... . What am I talking about? And to what seems like - judging by the results, there are no those motivated (in the right sense) people in the leadership of the SVR, and so on..., with all the stops... .
    1. +1
      31 August 2022 17: 44
      In general, if we are for military intelligence, then the GRU is more important, not the SVR.
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    1. -6
      30 August 2022 16: 36
      There is only one goal, to bring the population of Russia to an acceptable level for protection and work, defense of mining. There will almost be no pensioners soon
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  59. +5
    30 August 2022 15: 44
    Quote: Essex62
    It is clear that somehow, sooner or later, all this will end. It is not clear what the highest goal was initially. Red lines and ...tions are not offered. It is not achievable and they knew and know about it there. When they write that people in power are incapable of analytical and critical thinking, I laugh. Tough, unprincipled and big-headed boys from the 90s. Which bent everyone down. Degraded? I do not believe.
    So why?

    A simple and cynical answer in order to maintain personal power in the country for as long as possible. Does the phrase “small victorious war” mean nothing? Actually, this task has been completely completed, society has consolidated around the government, any opinions that cross the party line are completely suppressed.
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  61. +4
    30 August 2022 18: 36
    I read it as if I had listened to Solovyov. One gets the impression that only Ukrainians suffer losses, and we don’t have any,
    except that “at the beginning of the column they were lost in ambushes”, and that’s all. The rest is all kind of nonsense... Well, let everything written by the author remain on his conscience.

    “Save people, having lost the land, the land can still be captured. Save the land, having lost people, you will be left without people and without land.”

    How can you save the earth if you lose people? So we are talking about the total destruction of the Russian people by nuclear strikes? What is the author even writing about?
  62. 0
    30 August 2022 23: 36
    Thanks to the editors for continuing the topic - “Why is the SVO progressing so slowly.” This article differs from the previous one for the better. In this case, the author is trying to argue his position. Like many commentators here, it also seemed to me that this was a custom article. Well, okay. In fact, the author voiced an official point of view. That's good. But what a detailed discussion of this article. I have nothing to add. Fellow commentators have already removed almost all complaints about the SVO from my tongue. I realized more fully that I and Strelkov were not alone in seeing monstrous mistakes, shortcomings and outright betrayal of the ruling class in the Russian Federation. The saddest thing is that this class does not want to change. We probably all expected that government bureaucrats, Yeltsin’s military fosterlings, oligarchs and bankers, official deputies, official artists would finally feel the seriousness of the moment and their responsibility to the country and people - they would really begin to work for the good of the Fatherland. HA - HA. None of this happened. HA-HA - WELL-WELL. In fact, it turned out that the North Military District has three participants: the enemy in the person of Ukraine and the “West”, the Yeltsin-Putin state of the Russian Federation and, finally, we - the people of Russia. At the same time, the first two participants are constantly trying to strike an agreement, naturally at our expense. They decided to kill us on the battlefields, fleece us financially, and deprive us of our civil liberties. And they themselves will bargain and ruin the budget. This is the main problem of the SVO. We do not believe in the integrity and combat effectiveness of the ruling class in the Russian Federation. This is precisely why there is so much criticism and people’s unwillingness to endure the hardships of war. It will only get worse. It would be very good if the editors launched the topic “What’s next?” in the publication. What will happen in three months, in half a year, in a year.
  63. +3
    31 August 2022 01: 47
    "A weight on the West's leg?"
    What are you about. If they need to turn on the machine and print more. Inflation around the world will spread out, the financial markets of third countries will suffer, and they don’t care about that.
    I think it will be as always. In winter, at the expense of our taxpayers, we will supply gas to Ukraine for humanitarian reasons, since we are not at war with the people and there is no reason to freeze it.
    And only our Commander-in-Chief knows how events in Ukraine will develop further, and he will tell us this when he considers it necessary. Everything else is fortune telling on coffee grounds, nothing more.
  64. -2
    31 August 2022 09: 25
    From a personal point of view about “information”, many may find it useful - The masses, thousands and thousands and more and more, Russian-speaking people...have not watched UkroTV at all since 2014. Poroshenko and his assholes killed all Russian channels, then almost all of them. What happened? Since on TV since 2014, dirt has been poured not only on Putin or the Donetsk people, on the Russians, on everyone. In general, the cunning movable and the defectors started working, the Internet and VPN happened. But here’s what else happened - we, those who lost it, gradually understood the benefits of “renouncing TV”, if it’s clear from the Ukrainian, then we realized the benefits of the fact that “Soloviev”, “Kiselyov” was gone, talkers like Mikheev were gone, heaps of "experts" whose "expertise" reads like an article about fraud. The "Urgant-Galkins" with their misdirection of people's minds have smoothly left. The network is a great thing for an inquisitive and critical mind, and most importantly - you are chosen and not you on TV I can’t sell the latest 46-inch TV in Odessa, no one needs a smart one for money
  65. -1
    31 August 2022 09: 44
    Another stupid propaganda.
    We just don't have enough of these. No, drones are not needed, more protective vomit.
    The terminology is especially annoying, for example, “the management has taken up this issue closely.”
    Not a single person responsible for this situation has been punished or even named.
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    1. -2
      31 August 2022 17: 55
      At the end of the war, 17-year-olds were also drafted to the front in the USSR. Obviously in violation of the law. It’s just that the men have already been knocked out. By the way, this is about losses about which people still lie. I personally knew one front-line soldier who was sent to the front at the age of 17. He survived, according to him, thanks to the unit commander, who ordered such boys not to be sent to the front line, but to be kept “in the back.”
      1. +1
        1 September 2022 12: 24
        Congratulations to you for lying. They called for conscription; they didn’t send 17-year-olds to the front.
    2. ada
      0
      3 September 2022 13: 36
      Quote: ort
      ... the forest was felled in the Siberian tundra ...
      So this is where the tundra came from! wassat
      Special thanks for the forest. +
  67. -1
    31 August 2022 14: 33
    I liked the article. But judging by the comments, the fifth column on the site is very strong.
    1. 0
      1 September 2022 12: 24
      Lieutenant Which regiment did you serve in?
  68. +5
    31 August 2022 16: 17
    Quote from solist2424
    I liked the article. But judging by the comments, the fifth column on the site is very strong.

    What does “column” have to do with it? The author did not explain why the troops were withdrawn from Kyiv. Wrapped up in general words.
    Why were they brought there if it was extremely inconvenient? And the enemy was lying in ambush, but did not strike and waited until the Russian troops withdrew, this is already a kindergarten.
    Occupied Fr. Zmeiny and left, this seems understandable: they supposedly wanted to take Odessa right away, but then it didn’t work out. But then why did they occupy OUTSIDE the nuclear power plant if they cannot reliably ensure safety? To leave again or to take responsibility? Why does this nuclear power plant supply Ukraine, but not the Russian Federation? There is also a “smart explanation” - because the Ukrainians destroyed power lines towards Russia..... Why can’t the Russian army also hit power lines towards Ukraine? ...This is not a decent joke! They took over the nuclear power plant and are sending energy to the enemy... they said on TV the day before yesterday..... yes, there are generally only questions.
    1. -3
      31 August 2022 18: 08
      Read a book on the Internet: “Vanka Company Commander” by front-line soldier Shumilin. Maybe you'll learn a lot of things. There is an episode when the front line was divided by a river and the Germans and ours went to the river for water. At the same time, no one shot, although they saw everything perfectly.
      1. ada
        0
        3 September 2022 13: 29
        Well, you reminded me, and I don’t need to read, my friend’s grandfather was talking about himself, he was usually so silent, his back stuck out in the garden all day long, there was no time for stories, but here it was hot, so I remembered the moment. They also stood along the river, the Krauts also covered their flank, did not move, dug in and sat without protruding, if you lean out - there was shelling, and the heat was terrible, there were no supplies, no local population on either side, water was only in the river and they tried to crawl towards her at night from both sides, but it didn’t work. They were terribly thirsty (hunger wasn’t that bothering me), until one raised a pot over the parapet and started yelling (what exactly, I don’t remember), he yelled and shook the pot in his raised hand - rattled it, and he kept yelling until the Fritzes with that the sides did not respond and also raised the pot, then both climbed out of their trenches and at the same time slowly went to the river, took water from the river and back. Not a single shot. Then, he said, it became normal, you shake a pot, climb out of the trench and go for water - no one shoots, it was like this for a long time, until the front moved.
  69. +3
    31 August 2022 17: 09
    It did not seem advisable to take Kyiv, and standing still under attacks from ambushes, exchanging exchanges at an “unfavorable exchange rate” was simply pointless.

    Then the question arises: why was it necessary to deploy our units near Kyiv, in the Sumy and Chernigov regions if taking them “did not seem expedient”? Why and in the name of what did our soldiers die there? For the sake of a “gesture of goodwill”? And no matter how many times Putin and Shoigu say that the Northern Military District is going “according to plan,” few people believe it. We still have more non-stupid people than fools, and they can distinguish truth from untruth. Why not admit that mistakes were made in the planning and preparation of the SVO. That the command and the army, the Black Sea Fleet, and intelligence were not ready for the start and development of the Northern Military District. Any unbiased and sensible person who served in the army, looking at our huge broken columns of equipment moving chaotically along the roads of Ukraine without any cover or intelligence, it became clear that this was some kind of stupidity and an adventure. Such large columns with a five-meter distance between vehicles are simply an ideal target for artillery and ambushes. For some reason, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not assemble such columns; they move in small groups and at the same time maintain large distances between units of equipment. At the same time, having time to redeploy and bring in reinforcements and ammunition.
    1. +1
      1 September 2022 12: 26
      Admitting mistakes means punishing someone. Who? After all, all the boys are good people.
  70. +1
    1 September 2022 10: 40
    Quote: wladimirjankov
    It did not seem advisable to take Kyiv, and standing still under attacks from ambushes, exchanging exchanges at an “unfavorable exchange rate” was simply pointless.

    Then the question arises: why was it necessary to deploy our units near Kyiv, in the Sumy and Chernigov regions if taking them “did not seem expedient”? Why and in the name of what did our soldiers die there? For the sake of a “gesture of goodwill”? And no matter how many times Putin and Shoigu say that the Northern Military District is going “according to plan,” few people believe it. We still have more non-stupid people than fools, and they can distinguish truth from untruth. Why not admit that mistakes were made in the planning and preparation of the SVO. That the command and the army, the Black Sea Fleet, and intelligence were not ready for the start and development of the Northern Military District. Any unbiased and sensible person who served in the army, looking at our huge broken columns of equipment moving chaotically along the roads of Ukraine without any cover or intelligence, it became clear that this was some kind of stupidity and an adventure. Such large columns with a five-meter distance between vehicles are simply an ideal target for artillery and ambushes. For some reason, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not assemble such columns; they move in small groups and at the same time maintain large distances between units of equipment. At the same time, having time to redeploy and bring in reinforcements and ammunition.

    You are one hundred percent right. hi
  71. +1
    1 September 2022 10: 49
    Quote: Tatiana
    Quote: yuriy55
    Didn't find answers to the following questions:
    And that's a very interesting question. how the situation will develop - at whose expense Ukraine will warm up and with what? How will gas be distributed within the "united Europe"?
    I assume that Russia will continue to supply gas to the EU through the Ukrainian GTS even if Ukrainian UAVs bomb the Kremlin Crimea.

    Yes, it will! Otherwise, it will no longer be CBO, but Russia's direct declaration of a HOT WAR to Kyiv and NATO countries. In the meantime, this war with NATO is being waged informally - that is, without declaring a HOT war by Russia to NATO countries and NATO countries against Russia. But it all comes down to it!
    At the same time, Russia has backlashes for maneuvering in negotiations and contacts with the EU and NATO countries.

    We are at war not so much with the EU and NATO countries as in the USA! This is now the US PROXY war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine. And the EU and NATO have EXTERNAL control from the US.
    To defeat Russia in this war with the USA, you need to hit the United States! It is there that the GENEPAL decision-making centers are located!
    Are you personally ready for this - Russian strikes on the United States? Is Russia ready for this?
    Not yet.

    Therefore, Kyiv will steal Russian gas if the EU allows it! Or it won't happen if, as a result of the SVO, Russia liberates the entire territory of Ukraine from the Nazi Kyiv regime. and take control of it.

    And about how gas will be distributed within the "United Europe" - this is generally a question not for the author and not for Russia! These issues are being addressed as they come up.
    I will only say one thing - these problems will be solved in the EU by the EU countries among themselves, like spiders in a bank - that is, rightfully strong.
    From here, analysts give their forecasts that either NATO will fall apart or the EU will crumble. But I believe that at the same time, the United States will try to keep the situation under its control with all sorts of enslaving "subsidies" corresponding to them. Namely.

    First of all. Washington needs full administrative colonial control and external control over the EU countries.
    And secondly. NATO is a tool for the United States to fight with someone else's hands to protect its globalist national interests in the world.
    Therefore, Washington will, to the best of its ability, CONTAIN the EU and NATO.

    I think I have answered your questions.

    Madam, or mademoiselle, as it suits you, I would like to point out to you that during the Great Patriotic War we did not supply resources to the enemy. You are talking about this - supplies, trade... . This message of yours characterizes you perfectly. Are you not from the State Duma for some time? The style is very similar. lol
  72. 0
    1 September 2022 14: 30
    They will spend the winter, count their losses.....they will cry.
  73. +1
    1 September 2022 15: 55
    Quote: Alexey Lantukh
    Read a book on the Internet: “Vanka Company Commander” by front-line soldier Shumilin. Maybe you'll learn a lot of things. There is an episode when the front line was divided by a river and the Germans and ours went to the river for water. At the same time, no one shot, although they saw everything perfectly.

    And here they shoot, although they can see everything perfectly. And then ?
  74. 0
    2 September 2022 14: 31
    Reasonable thoughts.
    But - like “like my wife after.”
    There was an obvious and VERY important MISTAKE - at the beginning of the operation it was necessary to hit to the maximum!
    The cities surrendered quickly. And now we need to surround them, smoke out the Nazis.
    These are losses of human lives and completely justified grievances against the future Russian government. That is, from dead relatives here and in Ukraine - for many years!!!!

    Analogies with Vietnam do not “pass”
    Ukra is nearby and there are a lot of family connections - mostly expecting energetic and non-bloody actions from us! What should have been done!!!
    And Vietnam for the United States is, in fact, like walking to the moon. No human connections, no relatives - just political/ideological contradictions. In fact, it's fake. And a way to invest money for the military-industrial complex. That's why American citizens opposed this war. Which - they are right - did not bring anything positive for the USA!!!
  75. +1
    3 September 2022 20: 08
    The article completely shocked me. The author confirmed the problem I suspected. I don’t want to write something negative, because I feel like a Russian person (I’m Czech), but at the very beginning of the offensive operations there were many mistakes, especially in the field of logistics. Friends, I wish you all the best, but I read the article twice and its content scares me very much. However, I am convinced that Russia must win! am drinks
    1. 0
      3 September 2022 22: 35
      So a lot of things should happen for us. A world revolution should have happened a long time ago. We should have achieved the victory of communist labor long ago (at least in a single country). Somewhere in 1982, we should have already built communism in the USSR (according to Khrushchev’s promises). Yes, all these debt bills turned into historical dust, remaining as a reminder of an unattainable utopia: the revolution came to naught, communist labor was confidently replaced by terry merchant philistinism, and only the nostalgic memories of the passing old generation remind us of unfinished communism. Undoubtedly, the Russian Federation must win in the protracted military campaign called the Northern Military District. But only on condition that the Russian military begins to fight coherently, submitting to a skillful and competent command, provided with everything necessary for conducting military operations (both weapons and manpower). Not so much, it seems? But with all this there is noticeable tension and uncertainty. And this is shown by the past six months of the operation, which is still far from complete.
  76. -1
    3 September 2022 20: 58
    One gets the feeling that we have returned to the fourteenth or fifteenth year: the fighters are still fighting, but there is no alternative to “Minsk”, and the “patriots” are babbling “themselves-themselves-themselves”...

    And our bosses are always right, for more than a hundred years now, so there’s no point in sycophancy so openly.
  77. 0
    6 September 2022 14: 04
    Quote: Maki Avellievich
    the finale of this whole story will most likely be a change of administration in Russia with possible turmoil to accompany it.


    So far, “administrations” in the European Union countries are changing laughing
    Putin's position is stronger than ever. Home-grown Liberoids can only suck their paws.
  78. 0
    6 September 2022 22: 22
    Not a bad analysis, although much is based on speculation, there are not enough facts. The increase in the number of the Russian Armed Forces is already a fact, as is the bringing of new large units from our side to the Donbass.
  79. 0
    7 September 2022 09: 34
    Quote from: danil23518
    As you can undoubtedly see for yourself, both the General Staff and Putin “made a mistake” in assessing the combat capability of the Armed Forces and the ability of the Ukrainians to resist.”


    I certainly don't see it. Putin claimed that everything would be over in a couple of weeks? Where and when?
    If you made a mistake, it was not in the assessment of combat effectiveness, but in the degree of controllability by external forces and the volume of external support.
    The tasks of the SVO have long gone beyond what was stated. Denazification and demilitarization of not only Ukraine, but also its Western partners. Not only the Ukronazis are being destroyed, but also the Nazi scum from many Western countries. NATO's arsenals have begun to empty, because the number of modern weapons in most Western countries is not at all tons; taking into account economic problems, their replenishment will take much longer than the duration of the Northern Military District. They will inevitably wonder whether they have enough weapons for a full-scale conflict with the Russian Federation, even a non-nuclear one.

    The more the West bets on Ukraine, the more epic the West’s fiasco and the consequences of its failure will be.
  80. 0
    7 September 2022 09: 37
    Quote: Negro
    The faucet is almost all the way in, if you're watching. Germany and Italy are already turned off or almost turned off "for haircuts", France is going to be turned off one of these days.
    This card is discarded and beaten.


    Only in your imagination. The consequences of a shutdown do not appear immediately. By January we’ll see how this card is beaten, yeah. tongue
  81. 0
    9 September 2022 20: 29
    Personally, I must and want to say that the article is well written. The discussion is more complex, but they encourage everyone to read the article again and think about it. I just thank you. am
  82. -2
    18 September 2022 13: 33
    Quote from: danil23518
    They only know how to stupidly sell resources.

    Alas. And they don’t know how to sell resources either. stop They know how to steal and that's it. They didn’t even manage to make the sale of resources their powerful weapon, although their opponents themselves presented them with such an opportunity.

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