Finland accuses Russia of violating country's airspace

Finland accused Russia of violating the country's airspace. According to the statement of the Finnish Ministry of Defense, two Russian MiG-31 fighters violated the country's border in the Gulf of Finland.

According to Helsinki, Russian fighters could enter the airspace over the Gulf of Finland. The Finnish Air Force took to the air fighters to carry out identification, the border guard began a preliminary investigation. The final conclusions are promised to be provided upon its completion.

Two Russian MiG-31 fighters are suspected of violating Finnish airspace in the Gulf of Finland near Porvoo on the morning of August 18, 2022

- says the message of the Finnish military department.

Later, the Russian Ministry of Defense published a message about the transfer of three MiG-31I fighters with the Dagger hypersonic system to the Kaliningrad region. The aircraft will be deployed at the Chkalovsk airfield and will be on duty around the clock.

It is worth noting that Russian aircraft flying to the Kaliningrad region are forced to fly over the neutral waters of the Gulf of Finland between the territorial waters of Finland and Estonia. Earlier, Estonia constantly accused Russia of "violating air space". The bulk of the “violations” concerned the island of Vaindloo with an area of ​​​​only 0,062 km2, on which, in addition to an automatic beacon, there is a tower with an Estonian border guard radar that detects all aircraft flying by.

Estonia writes notes of protest for any case of "violation" of its borders, even if the plane "touches the wing" of the border, apparently Finland decided to adopt the Estonian experience.

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[razved]

And hot Finnish guys there too...

[bandabas]

For a long time Chud norgi did not have. Forgot the white ones.

[Dude]

Quote: bandabas

For a long time Chud norgi did not have. Forgot the white ones.

For some reason, they prefer not to remember this.

[impostor]

Send them through the forest ... and declare that it was a routine operation ... send them an application after the fact to the flightplan ...

[Terenin]

Finland He accused Russia in violation of the country's airspace

The judge woke up

[Labrador]

Of course she woke up: Pissing Maria must somehow be covered after drinking. But as? Yes, it's easy: to remind the electorate of the evil Russians.

[Clear]

Quote: impostor

Send them through the forest ... and declare that it was a routine operation ... send them an application after the fact to the flightplan ...

Yeah, and if the application was not received in time, then we can quickly send a duplicate ...
forgot , which of our products has a maximum speed of 10-12 Machs?

[bandabas]

Hot Finnish guys. Reindeer.

[bandabas]

Also, the Swedes. In addition to the norms

[tihonmarine]

Quote: razved

And hot Finnish guys there too...

Ignore them: "The dog is barking, the caravan is moving, the MIGs are flying."

[4ekist]

Vaindloo with an area of ​​only 0,062 km2, on which, in addition to an automatic beacon, there is a tower with a radar of the Estonian border guard....

I wonder how high the island is above sea level. In connection with the melting of glaciers in the Arctic, you see, there was an island and there is no island. Although Estonians can add stones, and dill will help.

[Gennady Zavalov_2]

Yes, not the country of Estonia, which would scatter stones to the right and to the left. So, on trifles, throw a pebble into the neighbor's garden, no more. For them, stones do not roll on the road, an expensive pleasure.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 4ekist

I wonder how high the island is above sea level.

8,5 meters. In winter, when the ice conditions are heavy, the ice "creeps" onto the island up to half of its territory. In the 50s, there was a battle between border guards and saboteurs abandoned by the west from the submarine.

Eltsyn has done it, now clear up.

[Vlodek]

there, half of Estonia will go under water when the Arctic melts ... there will be no shortage of islands before that. True, we will lose Peter

[isv000]

Quote: razved

And hot Finnish guys there too...

They have made their choice, and this is just the beginning! Now they will be smacked at every opportunity!

[EMMM]

Perhaps it's time to remind them that the port of Helsingfors is Russian.

[isv000]

Quote: EMMM

Perhaps it's time to remind them that the port of Helsingfors is Russian.

Western partners have stirred up so much that now a lot will have to be changed ...

[lis-ik]

Quote: razved

And hot Finnish guys there too...

And what is not: We allow empty chatter!!!!

[boris ivanov]

Chukhons however. it is necessary to hold a national referendum there.

[EMMM]

No, everything is fine, oil and gas for rubles, and then "For matches"!

[Bulgarian_5]

Yes, if you look at the map, you will see that there is not a very large corridor for the flight, we flew inside for a certain time and that's it ....

[parusnik]

apparently Finland decided to adopt the Estonian experience

Remembered the old .. 80 years ago.

[Thrifty]

Well, so the pilots next time for violating traffic rules in the air, let them break the law, or they will issue a fine

[Egoza]

Quote: Thrifty

Well, so the pilots next time for violating traffic rules in the air, let them break the law, or they will issue a fine

And the pilots are not to blame! How much of that border and in general, where is it? Can't see from above! Let your cordon be marked with red flags! )))

[Romario_Argo]

The Gulf of Finland is 36 km wide there - and the maritime borders of states from the coast are 22 km
Finland 22 + Estonia 22 = 44
BUT. depending on what height - sovereign airspace - this is a height of up to 21 km
MiG-31 flies up to 30 km - so we did NOT violate anything - if above 21 km
By the way, what about the Single Sky of Europe - what does Finland (?) have to do with it?

[House 25 Sq. 380]

There are our islands in the bay and a special contractual regime, so there is no 22+22=44...

[kind]

How much of that border and in general, where is it?

According to Helsinki, Russian fighters could enter the airspace over the Gulf of Finland.

Here is the key phrase - "could"! No, gentlemen of the Chukhons, you give evidence that they entered you. You can't be a little pregnant, or yes or no.

[Vlodek]

MIG 31 he is on a permanent flight "Moscow-Voronezh" ...
further rhyme

[Observer2014]

The Finnish Air Force took to the air fighters to make identification,

You have to be someone to compose such garbage!? Is there a lot of that Gulf of Finland for MIG 31 yet? So that the Finns, even if they flew abroad, could understand, not to mention raise fighters. Wow, these Finnish storytellers.

[Melziar]

So they raised them to catch up, but they couldn't

[PCF]

Almost on topic. A military pensioner was talking to a schoolboy about the problems of the Latvian Air Force.
A phrase slipped through the conversation, like, a fighter in afterburner will fly through your Latvia in the widest place in 15 minutes ...

[Cowbra]

Get used to it, now it will be often - you have chosen your side

[tralflot1832]

Off topic, but it turns out that we are $ 3 billion in money from the Norwegian Welfare Fund, they cannot withdraw them from Russia, except in rubles!

[isv000]

Quote: tralflot1832

Off topic, but it turns out that we are $ 3 billion in money from the Norwegian Welfare Fund, they cannot withdraw them from Russia, except in rubles!

We need to order in Baku, let them print it, give it back ...

[tralflot1832]

They say that sometimes the State Department keeps dollars and the State Department officials do not deny that these are their dollars, they are real, but at the same time they add that they did not print them. There is such a cheerful friend of Trump from the Korean peninsula. He prints.

[isv000]

Quote: tralflot1832

They say that sometimes the State Department keeps dollars and the State Department officials do not deny that these are their dollars, they are real, but at the same time they add that they did not print them. There is such a cheerful friend of Trump from the Korean peninsula. He prints.

The little boy or the older one?

[tralflot1832]

Rocket Man, as Trump calls him.

[isv000]

Quote: tralflot1832

Rocket Man, as Trump calls him.

Smart kid! I did not trust the prince at first, but no - sensible beyond his years! They say that he dressed relatives at the feeder, fed uncle to dogs ...

[Storog dvornik]

It reminded me of a story from the 70s, when the United States, in order not to carry dollars in cash by transport planes from the USA to Tehran for Iranian oil, ... (the shah accepted only cash, unlike others) ... entrusted the shah with one Faires machine for self-producing dollars. .. Paper, paint and clichés for printing 100 dollar bills ... True, their controller from the FRS was imprisoned to control circulation ...
As you know, in the 80s there was a revolution in Iran and the p.in.do.sovs were flooded, and the revolutionaries nationalized the machine, and successfully printed "hundreds" until the 90s when the FRS changed the design ... Who is older remembers that in the late 80s there was a myth about " super fakes", Hollywood made action movies about this ... But the funny thing is that they were original, and accepted by all banks, but with a m-a-a-a-l-l-l-l-d difference known only to a few experts from the Fed ... one letter on the "export" plate was almost the same as on the plate for US banks ... I had to make a new design ...

[Deep Diver]

It's time for awesome stories!

[fa2998]

Quote: Cowbra

Get used to it, now it will be often - you have chosen your side

They didn’t choose it, we pushed it. There is already a bitter experience of the war with Russia, we lost 1/10 of the territory and thousands of victims. A natural reaction!

[Cowbra]

Quote: fa2998

lost 1/10 territory

Did they return the money for it, which Russia paid to Sweden?

Quote: fa2998

and thousands of victims.

... the genocide of Russians in Karelia - into the revolution and WWII. Only not thousands, tens for sure, if not hundreds of thousands. I don't remember the opposite

[isv000]

Quote: Cowbra

Get used to it, now it will be often - you have chosen your side

And what do we have there with the Saimaa Canal?! It would be necessary to have time to freeze up, I’ll throw a podlyan ...

[Cowbra]

Quote: isv000

And what do we have there with the Saimaa Canal?!

By the way, yes. There is also a condition in the agreement - with the non-bloc status of Finland. And this is hoo-hoo, what a mean, in the same place, it seems, 20 percent of the cargo flow of the whole of Finland?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

There are three options to prevent future airspace violations:
1. Join Finland.
2. Join Estonia.
3. Expand the Gulf of Finland.

[Egoza]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

1. Join Finland.
2. Join Estonia.
3. Expand the Gulf of Finland.

I like the third option the most! )))

[Cowbra]

Quote: Egoza

I like the third option the most! )))

Purely for logistics - it is closer to deliver gas from Yamal to Kaliningrad ...

[Cat Alexandrovich]

3. Let the captured Ukrainians dig?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

3. Let the captured Ukrainians dig?

Handmade - the last century.
And yes, they are lazy.

[victor50]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Expand the Gulf of Finland.

At the expense of Estonia?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: victor50

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
Expand the Gulf of Finland.

At the expense of Estonia?

Today it deserves it more than Finland.

[isv000]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

There are three options to prevent future airspace violations:
1. Join Finland.
2. Join Estonia.
3. Expand the Gulf of Finland.

4. Break through the channel along the line Tallinn - Trondheim.

[Carlos Hall]

Explore every possible way to piss off Finland

[laws70]

The Swedes were already in a panic from the Soviet submarines, which later turned out to be American

[Leshak]

According to Helsinki, Russian fighters could enter the airspace over the Gulf of Finland.

Fuck specifics!

[Freelancer7]

Yes, he entered, he entered to love, this is such a manner of presenting information. Why hide - it is not clear. And you start arguing with Finn, he will competently show you why he will be right. And then you will blame the article that set you up in this regard. Do journalists at VO really like to substitute readers ????

[Vlodek]

hiley-like... we are no strangers. where they go they understand without translation, at the genetic level.
By the way ... do the "drunk ferries" still go to St. Petersburg on weekends? don't let the Finn drunks go! let them learn to cook moonshine

[Petr_Koldunov]

The Finns are starting to hit the bottom. A couple of months ago, these were sovereign, self-sufficient, cold-blooded, calm and pragmatic Finnish guys ...
Now they have joined the friendly chorus of European hysterics and sub-American lackeys.

[fa2998]

Not a couple of months! The Finns changed their position on February 24.02.22, XNUMX. Before that, they were not listed as hysterics and lackeys. Can you remind WHO contributed to the change of plans?

[mitroha]

Quote: fa2998

Not a couple of months! The Finns changed their position on February 24.02.22, XNUMX. Before that, they were not listed as hysterics and lackeys. Can you remind WHO contributed to the change of plans?

Hohlopresiki, since 2014. Did you remember?

[fif21]

Friendship ends. Soon we will close the border, and the canal to the Baltic will be very paid!
And the appearance in St. Petersburg and Vyborg will be traumatic. Ice, you know!

[iouris]

This is the blockade of Kaliningrad.
It is strange that Estonia was silent.

[Aleks2048]

I’m the only one who is curious what the uryakls will write here when our plane is shot down in the next such entry into foreign territory? And who will we offer to change the pilot (s) if they survive? And how many exclamations will there be about why the Russian Foreign Ministry is expressing concern? Maybe it’s better to wait and shoot down NATO planes over their territory, they won’t calm down anyway?

[House 25 Sq. 380]

I am only curious that here they will write here when our plane will be knocked down in an alien territory?

What is your action plan?

[Aleks2048]

You just have to be careful not to violate your boundaries. And in case of their violation, do not shoot somewhere nearby, but after the warning, shoot to kill. But do not allow violations of other people's borders. After one or two incidents, everything will return to normal and we will be reckoned with. And it will not be necessary for the citizens of their country to chew snot about all sorts of absurdities like "objective control". And so our government cannot ensure the inviolability of the borders of the Russian Federation, and only a completely “stupid” one does not understand this.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

And so our government cannot ensure the inviolability of the borders of the Russian Federation, and only a completely “stupid” one does not understand this.

And Estonian - maybe?

[Aleks2048]

And Estonian - maybe?

What about Turkish?
Or maybe it's not worth comparing the Russian Federation with all sorts of countries that, frankly, by misunderstanding, received statehood? Maybe it’s better to look into your “eye” more often, and not at how they are? Doesn't it teach us anything that you can't blindly copy what's in the West?

[House 25 Sq. 380]

What about Turkish?
Or maybe it's not worth comparing the Russian Federation with all sorts of countries that, frankly, by misunderstanding, received statehood? Maybe it’s better to look into your “eye” more often, and not at how they are? Does it really teach us nothing that you can’t blindly copy what is in the West

Was there a violation?

[Aleks2048]

Even if it happened, after all, such a patriot as you would at least need this fact to be recognized by each ministry of the Russian Federation separately, then at least the entire cabinet of ministers, and then written apologies and assurances of eternal friendship would certainly be sent not only to the presidents of the entire NATO bloc, but and personally to each resident. You are the one who, looking at black without the slightest twinge of conscience, says that it is white. So I don't see the point in even answering stupid questions.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

And if not, why your pathos? ...

You are the one who, looking at black without the slightest twinge of conscience, says that it is white.

Gracefully...))

[Aleks2048]

And if not, why your pathos? ...

You apparently didn’t read carefully or didn’t understand at all what I had in the first comment ... There wasn’t a word there that there was definitely a violation of the boundaries ... Get out of your fantasies already ... Get off the combat couch ... In this case, I did not write what you thought up for yourself.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

There was not a word about the fact that the violation of the borders definitely took place ..

You want to say that THIS is not it?

I'm the only one who is curious about what the uryakly will write here when in the next such entry into someone else's territory will our plane be shot down?

[Aleks2048]

You want to say that THIS is not it?

Of course not. There was a call or was not at all unprovable. And I definitely remember the stories from Syria and our behavior. And you seem to have forgotten? So let me remind you that the Jews “landed” one side, the Turks “landed” the second. Or is it different? And the uncertainty of our both the Navy and the Air Force regarding the actions of both the British defender and the Ukrainian troughs. The latter did not even hesitate to attribute that we stole toilet bowls from them ... We survived! The Brits are telling us all sorts of bullshit about freedom of navigation, and their calls are yelling that we are thieves! . It was necessary to heat both here and there.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Of course not.

Strange: and I, having read

in the next such a entering foreign territory

thought it was a violation of boundaries...

[Aleks2048]

thought it was a violation of boundaries...

Yes, you also give predictions.
For example, I was talking about provocative behavior, when the situation can be interpreted in two ways ... And our "partners" with their interpretation will shoot down our planes. I don't know about you. And the majority, not only here on the site, but also just Russians, will say that our Russian Foreign Ministry will only respond with concern to this. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will bleat that we are not to blame ... But in fact, no one will do anything. They will not strike at the air defense system that shot down our plane. Or there will be no strike on the plane that shot down our plane, especially on the ship or airfield. That's the problem. The provocation of a twofold situation does not give us grounds for an optimistic assessment. It's just that, as a result, the Russian Federation does not derive any benefit from this for itself.
And if we take this particular situation, and it is, at least, as in this news, it is twofold

The Finnish Air Force took to the air fighters to carry out identification, the border guard began a preliminary investigation. The final conclusions are promised to be provided upon its completion.

And the result of such investigations may be sanctions against individuals or companies or against the Russian Federation in general. How do you like that? Or are you from a sect, give us more sanctions, do they help us?
The Russian Federation, based on the results of this specific investigation, could also introduce sanctions, or are these also not our methods? So from this particular situation, the Russian Federation will again flow around in the slop. Our "caring" media simply will not describe the avalanche of slops that will be poured in our direction in the west. Or do you have a different vision of this situation? Share?

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Now I understand, I understand - do not write a lot ...

When you wrote about

such a sunset

It was about something completely different, about something that I did not understand ...
All the best!

[Andrey Moskvin]

Two Russian MiG-31 fighters are suspected of violating
The words were wrong. It’s more correct to write - two MIG-31 type fighters are suspected ...

[Yaro Polk]

I think .. it is these Daggers with a vigorous warhead.

[Metallurg_2]

Chukhlandia was not noticed on the map, it was painfully insignificant. Not to mention the Baltic tigers.

[Voronezh]

It was, it wasn’t, the main thing is to bark and, like, start an investigation ....

[Freelancer7]

even if the plane "touches the wing" of the border

In fact, almost the entire Gulf of Finland is the territorial zone of Finland and Estonia. To touch or not to touch is nonsense, because 100% flew in territorial waters. 22 km from one coast and 22 km from the other. How can you fly by striking a wing along the border if the distance from Naissaar (near Tallinn) and Makiluoto (Helsinki) is only 36 km. It is necessary to raise the question of the legitimacy of using the Gulf of Finland for the passage of aircraft and ships. We have no other way out how to use this corridor, even in the territorial waters of Finland or Estonia. If the Gulf of Finland is not used, then there is no other way to get to Kaliningrad, even around Norway, through Denmark, without passing through their territorial waters. Either all the same, it is necessary to cut down the Suwalkovsky corridor.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

In fact, the Gulf of Finland is almost the whole, it is the territorial zone of Finland and Estonia.

Why all of a sudden?

[Arkady007]

Everything goes to that, they push us there, to the Suvalka corridor.

[Andrey A]

The territorial waters of Finland and Estonia and Finland in the Gulf of Finland are smaller - 22 km, because it is unacceptable to cut off any country from the open sea. And here is a photo of the delimitation in the Gulf of Finland ... Everything is clearly visible. Our planes were flying over neutral waters.

[Freelancer7]

I was not too lazy to make a diagram. I took a Google map as a basis, a 22,2 km line from the coast, denoting territorial waters. And he made two circles of 22,2 km on the islands. Look, I think that my map has more accurate values ​​than yours.

[Freelancer7]

22,2 * 2 = 44,4 km is the total distance when two zones of territorial waters touch each other, and here it is less. This means that there are no neutral waters in this place.

[Andrey A]

That. the width of neutral waters along the Gulf of Finland is at least 6 miles. So our planes flew over neutral waters... Russia will not allow a revision of this agreement... According to the 2005 agreement with Estonia, any revision of agreements on maritime borders in the Gulf of Finland can take place only on the basis of consultations between Russia, Estonia and Finland. .. "2. In 1993, Estonia and Finland, by means of an exchange of notes, agreed that they voluntarily 'withdraw' their territorial waters three nautical miles from the central line. Thus, a six nautical mile wide corridor was created in the form of an economic zone with virtually the status of the high seas in such matters as the passage of ships, the laying of marine cables and pipelines, flights over them, etc. "https://inosmi.ru/20051228/224593.html https://rg.ru/2007/ 04/11/estonia.html

[Ryaruav]

it is necessary to cut the tribalts with all the proletarian hatred

[Sergey39]

Yes, it doesn’t matter what the Chukhons assume! (((

[Normann]

So it was necessary to try to intercept)

[valentine light]

Etonians, Finns ...... complain ... but who needs them, except for the United States and then, like "cannon fodder."
Well, a modern plane flew somewhere 1 kilometer from their border, so why be scared?

[Arkady007]

Taki is not clear violated or still understand.
It is more likely that the Finns knew what kind of aircraft they were and with what they were flying, a bit of Bzdali and that's it.
How do they consider their borders along the fairway, then there is no place for ours at all?

[Andrey A]

On the way to Kaliningrad from St. Petersburg, our ships sail in neutral waters, so the claims of Finland and Estonia to control over the Gulf of Finland are far-fetched, not to mention the airspace ... In general, when laying the line of territorial waters, it is not allowed to cut off anyone's inland sea from the high seas. This principle is valid in this case .... "Map of the South-Eastern part of the Baltic Sea, with the coast of the Kaliningrad region of Russia and indicating the boundaries of the territorial waters of the coastal states, the Russian Federation, the Republic of Lithuania and the Republic of Poland.

The sailing route from the port of Leningrad to the port of Baltiysk in the Kaliningrad region lies entirely in neutral waters, outside the boundaries of the territorial waters of all unfriendly countries, therefore it does not depend on their hostile restrictions. The protection of Russian transport ships in neutral waters should be provided by ships and aircraft of the Twice Red Banner Baltic Fleet. "https://balt-lloyd.ru/morskaja-praktika/morskoe-pravo/territorialnye-vody-i-ih-otschet

[lelik613]

The rhinoceros has poor eyesight, but with its weight, this is no longer its problem.

(c) common knowledge. And ... bedbugs must be crushed regardless of the stench.

[Mixweb]

Fly over Helsinki and accidentally drop something. They will yell, but then they will keep quiet, rejoicing that planes fly over the outskirts.

[PVV66]

That's how I want to say to the hot Finnish guys: "And you will catch up with them and hand over a fine for crossing a solid one!". And we're laughing.

[isv000]

Two Russian MiG-31 fighters are suspected of violating Finnish airspace in the Gulf of Finland near Porvoo on the morning of August 18, 2022

Let them decide at the beginning, the first in the morning or, after all, the eighteenth ... In general, the supreme one said that we had not started yet! ..

[Commodore Arctic]

Ouch! Ouch! Horned Finns - they only know how to whine! Well violated and WHAT? Shoot down ... you are her Cool! You are NATO!
Like we were weaklings and puppets. So you stay

[Cheshirskicat]

They just forgot that they are part of the Russian Empire

[nordscout]

What is it about and from whom? Hot Finnish guys "screamed" - the voice cut through ... Finland is what and from which side? Maybe it's time to explain to some from "whose palms do they peck"? Show them their "self-sufficiency" in full?

[Napayz]

I don’t understand why the Finns are excited. "Routine activities" - that's all)))

[Al manah]

The Ministry of Defense published a message about the transfer of three MiG-31I fighters with the Dagger hypersonic system to the Kaliningrad region.

MiG-31I (product "Ishim") - The aircraft is designed for air launch of small spacecraft weighing 120-160 kg into orbits of 600-300 km.
MiG-31K - Carrier of the Kinzhal missile.
Or is pedivicia wrong?

[Stepan S]

Do not pay attention to them, let them communicate with themselves there.

[ISKANDER_61]

Apparently there is nothing more to say.

[km-21]

Washington mongrel will constantly attack Russia with such accusations until they get it in the teeth. Russia must firmly declare its right to carry out military overflights along this route, and any attempts to prevent this will be considered a casus belli.