The commander of the battalion "Vostok": One of the main troubles of the army is panic in front of negative reports to the command

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The commander of the battalion "Vostok": One of the main troubles of the army is panic in front of negative reports to the command

There is a change of personnel in the army leadership. With its help, the Armed Forces are trying to streamline the decision-making process and their implementation,

On this topic argues Commander of the Vostok brigade (DPR) Alexander Khodakovsky (Scythian) in his Telegram channel.



In general, he considers the ongoing processes positive for defense capability. But the problem is that the old cadres are in no hurry to make way for the young commanders. The battalion commander of the "East" argues that in a number of cases a new nominee to a high position has only formal power, while the levers of control continue to remain in the hands of the predecessor.

It is surprising to hear, when it comes to this or that promising general, whose new position sounds solid, that he decides little

- writes Khodakovsky.

He notes that the army command and control system has been formed for many decades. And changing something in it is often not easy. Some of these "traditions" serve to strengthen the country's defense power, others harm it. For example, one of the troubles of the army is panic in front of negative reports to the command. Therefore, important information is often hushed up in order to avoid the wrath of the authorities, so that the "speaker" is not inadvertently demoted.

Unfortunately, Khodakovsky did not name any names, so it is difficult to understand what specific personnel changes he is talking about. Moreover, in the armed forces they occur regularly.
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  1. +34
    18 August 2022 14: 39
    one of the troubles of the army is panic in front of negative reports to the command.

    This is a very ancient custom:
    The messenger who brings bad news is beheaded.
    1. +12
      18 August 2022 14: 49
      The Persians had it.
      In Russia, a messenger with bad news was mercilessly beaten with whips. So everything was less bloodthirsty for us.
      1. +8
        18 August 2022 15: 31
        Yes, it’s not clear what is “more humane”, immediately head from the shoulders or mercilessly flogged with a whip with patches of skin on the back, who subsequently died of sepsis or tetanus.
        1. +5
          19 August 2022 04: 36
          So it was before Peter 1. Pyotr Alekseevich democratically drove his fist into the jug to the messenger, especially when he was in a bad mood. And he could just mentally swear without assault.
          1. +5
            19 August 2022 11: 44
            Scientific congress dedicated to the origin of geographical names.
            One scientist speaks:
            - We had such a historical case near Moscow. Peter the Great with retinue
            stopped in one village, and at night one soldier fell asleep on guard duty. In the morning
            the head of the guard asked the king how to punish him. But the king was in good
            mood and only said: "Leave him!". Since then the village has been called
            Astafyevo.
            Another scientist takes the floor:
            - We had a very similar case in Stavropol. Only a king this time
            was out of sorts, and the soldier was less fortunate. Since then the village has been called
            Ipatyevo.
      2. +5
        18 August 2022 20: 20
        In Russia, a messenger with bad news was mercilessly beaten with whips.
        It was not in vain that I. Strelkov told jokes on this topic ...))) Already before "VO", it finally dawned on him that it was enough to indulge the swindlers
        1. +2
          18 August 2022 20: 47
          Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
          In Russia, a messenger with bad news was mercilessly beaten with whips.
          It was not in vain that I. Strelkov told jokes on this topic ...))) Already before "VO", it finally dawned on him that it was enough to indulge the swindlers

          I would like to ask: did Strelkov himself, when he was the commander and minister of defense of the DPR, always cut the truth up? And did he achieve that he was always told the unpleasant truth?
          1. +4
            18 August 2022 21: 03
            Quote: Chronos
            One might ask: did Strelkov himself, when he was the commander and minister of defense of the DPR, always cut the truth up? And did he achieve that he was always told the unpleasant truth?

            The reports that he published were not like the pleasers.
            1. -5
              19 August 2022 08: 10
              If Girkin-Strelkov is such a great special. and a warrior, why didn’t they even let him go there as a volunteer? They detained him in the Crimea while trying to penetrate into Ukraine. I think no one is waiting for him there, and it’s not a fact that the bullet would have flown to him not from the dill side.
              1. 0
                19 August 2022 09: 07
                Quote: Vyacheslav Ivasenko
                If Girkin-Strelkov is such a great special. and a warrior, why didn’t they even let him go there as a volunteer?

                Maybe just for the reasons that are discussed in the article and in most of the comments ?!
                Quote: Vyacheslav Ivasenko
                I think no one is waiting for him there, and it’s not a fact that the bullet would have flown to him not from the dill side.

                How do you know? Were you there with him? Why such malice?
                1. -3
                  19 August 2022 14: 20
                  Reply to the first part of my comment? Do not engage in demagogy and do not answer a question with a question. This is not about me and not even about you. As for me, I was where I needed to be.
                  1. -1
                    19 August 2022 16: 55
                    Quote: Vyacheslav Ivasenko
                    Reply to the first part of my comment?

                    Well, fortunately, I'm not your subordinate, so read on. laughing And it's not my problem that you didn't want to see it in return. request I have no doubt that they were. It can be seen from the photo. But probably not with him. Where does such anger and confidence come from that he is not needed THERE? However, don't answer. It is unlikely that our dialogue will continue in a constructive manner, judging by your answer, and my answer to it... hi
                    1. -2
                      19 August 2022 18: 02
                      I brought information from open sources: "Girkin was detained in the Crimea while trying to volunteer to get to Ukraine." I don’t know him personally. Again, from open sources, he is a retired FSB colonel. I had nothing to do with the organization I respect so much. I don’t say whether he is needed there or not, it’s not for me to decide .If you carefully read my comment, I wrote: "I think no one is waiting for him there ..." and further in the text. I am familiar with the statements of his people who were under his command and fought with him, incl. and from open sources, but they are negative. Therefore, he expressed his own, possibly subjective, opinion. What hurt you so much and gave you a reason to get personal?
                      1. -1
                        19 August 2022 21: 07
                        Quote: Vyacheslav Ivasenko
                        What touched you so much and gave you a reason to get personal?

                        Well, I didn’t get personal, I don’t know what you saw it in. Do you think the accusation of demagogy (in what? Where?) required the continuation of exceptionally polite communication, without irony and malice? request hi
    2. -4
      18 August 2022 15: 05
      Well, nevertheless, the commander of the Black Sea Fleet was changed hi
      1. +6
        18 August 2022 15: 51
        Quote: Thrifty
        Well, nevertheless, the commander of the Black Sea Fleet was changed hi

        On whom? The press service of the Black Sea Fleet denied this.
        https://topwar.ru/200458-ne-verte-spletnjam-novogo-komandujuschego-chernomorskim-flotom-ne-naznachali.html
      2. +2
        18 August 2022 15: 52
        Yesterday the press service of the Black Sea Fleet denied these rumors? There was an article on VO.
        1. 0
          18 August 2022 20: 04
          Quote: ASAD
          Yesterday the press service of the Black Sea Fleet denied these rumors? There was an article on VO.

          And I believe RIA Crimea
          https://crimea.ria.ru/20220817/novyy-komanduyuschiy-chf-predstavlen-v-sevastopole-1124184786.html
    3. -10
      18 August 2022 16: 18
      This is a very ancient custom:
      Well, since it has become a custom, it means that the messengers did not hide the bad news.
      ---
      And on the other hand, a messenger who brought bad news can be called ... a deserter, because if the news is bad, then one must not turn into a messenger (run to the rear), but remain on the battlefield. winked
      1. +1
        18 August 2022 18: 19
        Why immediately a deserter, maybe his boss sent for help?
        1. -4
          18 August 2022 21: 31
          Well, then they wouldn't cut his head off.
          And they only cut down, it seems, if there is no more help, and here he brings bad news, instead of continuing to fight on the battlefield.
  2. Two
    +22
    18 August 2022 14: 39
    hi In reality, those who went through the same Syria, the battalion flight commanders - the regiment are not among the "Konashenkov-little fingers"! And some "stars" with false teeth hold on to positions and salaries! Should be updated as much as possible.
    1. -17
      18 August 2022 14: 49
      Well, Konashenkov does not make much sense to change, he simply voices what is provided to him. And those who have passed Syria are more useful not in offices, but in the fields. And then, let's put it this way: there are fewer positions than worthy ones. It is impossible to update the high command now: horses are not changed at the crossing. Otherwise, chaos in management may begin. Those who started the NWO should complete it, according to the plans they developed.
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          1. +5
            18 August 2022 18: 25
            Quote: Repellent
            Well, come on, enlighten the dark ones, what is wrong with us

            New strategist winked
            I immediately remembered Yavlinsky's program - 500 days ...
          2. +4
            18 August 2022 19: 15
            Of course, I understand that all opinions except yours are wrong, but why call a person names?
        2. -4
          18 August 2022 17: 58
          What does Konashenko have to do with it? In the information war, the Russian Federation, by definition, had no chance of winning - the enemy controls over 90% of the general planetary news resources .. Dry data from official military reports, the right decision, maybe there is something better, but it’s not clear that something would be offered instead.
          1. +2
            18 August 2022 21: 01
            They spoke not by number, but by skill .... It was a long time ago. Now they say - well, where can you trample against 90% .....
            1. 0
              19 August 2022 01: 53
              try with skill - our news resources are closed in the EU and the USA, with Canada and England. They are practically absent in Indonesia and Africa
      2. +16
        18 August 2022 15: 38
        Well, Konashenkov does not make much sense to change, he simply voices what is provided to him.

        There is a point in replacing it. The person does not correspond to his position and completely failed the area of ​​work entrusted to him.
        It is impossible to update the high command now: they don’t change horses at the crossing.

        If a person does not cope with the duties entrusted to him, it is necessary to change, and the sooner the better. And not only, by the way, to change, but also to bring to responsibility.
        Those who started the NWO should complete it, according to the plans they developed.

        Fortunately, even in the Russian army they understand that this is a direct path to military defeat. Therefore, they are already changing (little, unfortunately) the same Serdyukov (commander of the Airborne Forces), for example. Dvornikov, too, they say, that ... Osipov, I would like to believe, was also sent somewhere far away from leadership positions.
      3. +10
        18 August 2022 16: 00
        At the crossing it is necessary not to change horses, but donkeys. More sense.
      4. +5
        18 August 2022 16: 33
        Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
        Well, Konashenkov does not make much sense to change,

        But you are not right! laughing
        Put in his place a pretty captain, 25-27 years old, with a figure of 90-60-90, and any news will be perceived more positively wassat hi
        And further. Anyone who gives me a "minus" will be suspected of being gay and worshiping Western "values" in the form of pederasty wassat request
        1. -6
          18 August 2022 17: 06
          I will answer my own wassat
          Quote: Adrey
          And further. Anyone who gives me a "minus" will be suspected of being gay and worshiping Western "values" in the form of pederasty

          Sorry I didn't warn you. Tomorrow I will send a screenshot of a comment with all the "cons" to the article request hi wassat
        2. +6
          18 August 2022 17: 50
          Quote: Adrey
          Put in his place a pretty captain, 25-27 years old

          I have nothing against pretty women, but only without titles, for their personal merits. And you, my friend, are a provocateur and a blackmailer, the methods of the Kyiv team. hi Minus, just in case, did not set. stop
          1. -3
            18 August 2022 17: 56
            Quote: lis-ik
            And you, my friend, are a provocateur and a blackmailer

            Sometimes you need to put a healthy joke on the air request. How to bring it into the trenchlaughing.
            Quote: lis-ik
            methods of the Kyiv team.

            Yah. It's just okay. Although, I admit, there is certainly soft trolling wink request
            Are you against healthy humor?hi
            1. -3
              18 August 2022 17: 59
              Quote: Adrey
              Quote: lis-ik
              And you, my friend, are a provocateur and a blackmailer

              Sometimes you need to put a healthy joke on the air request. Like in a trench laughing.
              Quote: lis-ik
              methods of the Kyiv team.

              Yah. It's just ok wink
              Are you against healthy humor?hi

              Quote: Adrey
              Yah. It's just ok
              Are you against healthy humor?

              No, I was joking too. In general, here the vast majority of "cheers for patriots" have a bad time with sarcasm and humor, you will notice what a tense silence and there are no minuses.
              1. -2
                18 August 2022 18: 05
                Quote: lis-ik
                No, I was joking too. In general, here the vast majority of "cheers for patriots" have a bad time with sarcasm and humor, you will notice what a tense silence and there are no minuses.

                Well, I tried laughing wassat hi. And I've known them for so long wassat
        3. +2
          18 August 2022 19: 32
          Sly I look good
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        4. 0
          18 August 2022 21: 12
          Hmm ... but a plus is two whole minuses ... belay
        5. 0
          20 August 2022 00: 43
          Well, I don’t know ... Anatoly Alekseevich Nogovitsyn commanded my respect, and the way he covered the events of the war of 888 was an order of magnitude better than now.
      5. MMX
        +5
        18 August 2022 19: 02
        Well, Konashenkov does not make much sense to change, he simply voices what is provided to him.


        That is why we are losing the information war, because we are using a different approach.
        Konashenkov, first of all, is a fighter of the information front, and not a person who simply brings information (official from the Moscow Region). And he does not correspond to this: his diction is broken, his speech is not delivered, he has an ordinary appearance, he is simply boring and does not evoke emotions. Nothing personally, maybe as a person he is a good person, but as a soldier of the information war - alas ...
        I understand that now they will say that this is a military man, and not an artist, but that's just the point, that we have a different approach with the West. They know how to submit information and find a response from people (get emotions). This is exactly what is needed in the information war (remember Levitan !!!). I consider the chosen style - a dry, clear report-report, to be fundamentally wrong.

        P.S. I’m not even talking about the punctures of the Moscow Region with a reaction to events (the same “Moscow”, recent sabotage, “gestures of goodwill”, etc., etc., a lot of them have already accumulated).

        P.S. 2
        I stopped watching and reading reports from MO. I prefer to receive information from other sources.
        1. +3
          19 August 2022 05: 23
          In my opinion, Konashenkov is just a "talking head". Speaker. What he was ordered, he said. And about the ordinary appearance, and the boring manner of presenting information ... You know, on TV, 90% of all those who lead the same "information channels" irritate me. Nikonov - at every opportunity mentions religion in a positive way, he always inserts "our cause is just, victory will be ours." The slogan is good, but its constant citation causes rejection. Yes, and the so-called. "experts" evoke boredom: wherever you switch, the same ones.
          I mean, the information war is not only and not so much Konashenkov. This is the general organization of the process, which no one seems to be engaged in.
          1. +3
            19 August 2022 08: 59
            People who do not understand the Russian mentality are responsible for the process.
          2. MMX
            0
            19 August 2022 17: 24
            In my opinion, Konashenkov is just a "talking head". Speaker. What he was ordered, he said.


            With the rank of lieutenant general.
            I repeat, the talking head should be noticeable, spectacular, biting, so that you get goosebumps (if you want the result).

            I mean, the information war is not only and not so much Konashenkov. This is the general organization of the process, which no one seems to be engaged in.


            Undoubtedly, the wrong people are responsible for this process, now it is already obvious, as for me.
      6. +1
        18 August 2022 21: 11
        Here, excuse me, to the question of chaos!
        - It is unlikely that candidates for positions graduated from Sandhurst or West Point ... or the National Defense University ... perhaps they are a little younger than the "stayers", they have somewhat different experience, but one cannot expect a 90-degree turn in the management of the Armed Forces from them!
      7. -1
        19 August 2022 13: 35
        Well, Konashenkov doesn’t make much sense to change, he just voices what he is provided
        Well, how is it "there is no special meaning" - still as it is.
        Konashenkov is the main media person of our NWO.
        In fact, with his dry and objective figures, he nullifies almost all the media propaganda of the ukrovermacht.
        And for the West (and their ukroshesterok), who are not able to win on the battlefield, it is extremely important to win it on the information front - this is where the attack on Konashenkov comes from.
        In fact, discrediting Konashenkov is the first step towards discrediting the entire SVO.
        That is why they attacked Konashenkov here.
        ---
        As for Khodakovsky, this is a man who worked (and maybe continues to work) for Akhmetov and there are many questions for him.
        At the end of the SVO, we will learn a lot of interesting things about the Donbass, or rather about its officials.
        ---
        horses in the crossing do not change.
        Moreover, these "horses", being in a numerical minority, successfully destroy the Ukronazis, and this just speaks of good planning of military operations.
        1. MMX
          0
          19 August 2022 17: 31
          In fact, with his dry and objective figures, he nullifies almost all the media propaganda of the ukrovermacht.


          Uh-huh, today, with these "dry and objective figures" in the briefing of the Ministry of Defense, he "shot" 100 Ukrainian kraken fighters (I deliberately write with a small letter) with the hands of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
          With such briefings, the Russian Defense Ministry discredits itself.
          1. 0
            19 August 2022 17: 56
            But how was it really? Enlighten.
            1. MMX
              0
              20 August 2022 17: 26
              Quote: flicker
              But how was it really? Enlighten.


              There is no evidence of such nonsense from either side.
              I could still understand the execution of 1-2 fighters (I will admit this as nonsense), but 100 people (HUNDRED PEOPLE!) in one place, by my own ...
              Therefore, this infa from Konashenkov is another confirmation of my words.
              1. 0
                20 August 2022 19: 11
                There is no evidence of such nonsense from either side.
                Your problem is this
                I could still understand
                If you cannot understand this, then this is your personal problem.
                1-2 fighters (I will admit this as nonsense)
                You can only allow this as nonsense.

                but 100 people (ONE HUNDRED PEOPLE!)
                Do you think they have problems with ammo?
                1. MMX
                  -2
                  22 August 2022 21: 06
                  Your problem is this

                  These are not my problems. These are the problems of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which voiced this fact.

                  If you cannot understand this, then this is your personal problem.


                  If my problem is what I think and try to understand, then yes, everything is so.
                  But apparently this is not your method. wassat
                  I never received evidence of the execution (neither from the RF Ministry of Defense, nor from you).
                  Since there is no hype around such a glaring case (and this can be inflated, have real docks on hand ..), I conclude that this did not happen.

                  Do you think they have problems with ammo?

                  Maybe their brains aren't as bad as yours?
                  1. +1
                    22 August 2022 21: 57
                    and try to understand
                    Trying to understand does not mean understanding. But what you are trying is good.
                    I never got any evidence of the shooting.
                    Do you need video evidence?
                    And here is your argument
                    but 100 people (HUNDRED PEOPLE!) in one place, with their own ...

                    Have you not listened to the dialogue between the major and the company commander?
                    So, the major offers to reset the company if they do not want to fight.
                    "Reset" if that is not to send on vacation.
                    Maybe their brains aren't as bad as yours?

                    Well, who would doubt...
                    1. MMX
                      -2
                      23 August 2022 19: 44
                      If you don’t get it, then I’ll say it straight:
                      A similar fact is an incident on a global scale. And such a topic (have evidence) can be inflated then topics in the UN Security Council.
                      It is impossible to keep silent about such a fact and information will leak out. Since there are still no loud statements (from anyone), this information has not been confirmed. And therefore there is no evidence.

                      Have you not listened to the dialogue between the major and the company commander?
                      So, the major offers to reset the company if they do not want to fight.
                      "Reset" if that is not to send on vacation.


                      There are recordings of our talks on the downed Boeing on YouTube (posted by the SBU). What do you think, fake or true?
                      1. 0
                        24 August 2022 00: 16
                        A similar fact is an incident on a global scale.
                        laughing
                        What is the global scale? Are you serious?

                        Losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: about 200 thousand people were killed, about 300 thousand were wounded.
                        Who cares about this?

                        Once again: listen to the dialogue between the major and the company commander.
                        records of our negotiations on the downed Boeing (laid out by the SBU)
                        the Boeing record is a clear fake. Because the sequence was: Boeing - accusation - record.
                        And the dialogue between the major and the company commander appeared before Konashenkov's message. In addition, the fact that Ukraine practices detachments is not a secret, even captured Ukrainians talk about it.
                      2. MMX
                        -2
                        26 August 2022 18: 15
                        Losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: about 200 thousand people were killed, about 300 thousand were wounded.
                        Who cares about this?


                        Yes, write more that you feel sorry for them.

                        It is even strange that with such "losses of the enemy" we still cannot even completely liberate the LPR ... wink

                        the Boeing record is a clear fake.


                        So you're saying that not all recordings of conversations on YouTube are real?
                        But.
    2. +24
      18 August 2022 14: 49
      Negative selection in all branches of government is a national trait. So not only in the army. And it is not possible to overcome it.
      1. +36
        18 August 2022 15: 11
        In any army in the world there is a gradation of command personnel. The first one loves order and hates personnel, chartered to disgrace, and does not like to fight and does not know how, but all the documentation is in order, in good standing with superiors. The second one teaches personnel to fight, exercises are conducted day and night, in any conditions, his unit can perform any task, the soldier is protected and appreciated, but dry without taking out 24 hours, in preparation, and not in restoring order at disposal and on the assigned territory . He fights skillfully and with taste. He is always at odds with his superiors, because he has his own view of things. But, always, when a northern, polar animal creeps up, it is he and his unit that are entrusted with the task of pulling everyone out of the anus. Such a career is extremely rare. But the first ones are usually with big stars and the whole chest is about the war.
        1. +8
          18 August 2022 15: 44
          Quote: tatarin1972
          He is always at odds with his superiors, because he has his own view of things. But, always, when a northern, polar animal creeps up, it is he and his unit that are entrusted with the task of pulling everyone out of the anus. Such a career is extremely rare.


          precisely noticed!
        2. +7
          18 August 2022 15: 57
          I remembered the certification for a cap-two Beams:
          Captain 2nd rank S. Z. Balk is a disappearing type of naval officer - a sailboat, his education does not go beyond a purely marine specialty. Succumbing to alcoholism, in peacetime, Captain 2nd Rank Balk is in many cases an undesirable element for service, but his determination and selfless courage shown in the war, his impeccably honest and sympathetic nature give the right to a condescending attitude towards his lack.

          Beloved by subordinates, in wartime Capt. 2 p. Balk will make heroes out of them, and in peacetime he will force them to willingly perform any difficult task, any emergency work, surprising those around them with the speed of its execution.

          The life of S. Z. Balk is inextricably linked with the ship on which he sails, he has no coastal attachments; as a commander, he is known in the navy for his dashing control of his ship and his concern for its regular and non-standard supplies and equipment.

          Cap. 2 p. The beam must be protected for wartime
        3. +2
          18 August 2022 19: 35
          Only the second ones always have small stars.
          1. +4
            18 August 2022 19: 42
            Usually they don’t rise above the major, battalion commanders maximum.
      2. +6
        18 August 2022 15: 33
        And it is not possible to overcome it.

        Well, as long as he lives from one life-long “father of the nation” to another “father of the nation”, this will be so. We need a legitimate procedure for the change of power and a mandatory time limit for being in power.
        1. -5
          18 August 2022 20: 51
          The kings legitimately succeeded each other. So what?
          1. +1
            18 August 2022 21: 14
            Absolute monarchy became obsolete somewhere just in time for Alexander 1.
            And I wrote that in addition to the legitimate procedures for the change of power, there is still a need for a limitation on terms of office, if we talk about the current time, then in my opinion the maximum term of office of the president is 2 times four years. If a person is in power for more than 10 years, as the history of different countries shows, degradation almost always begins, the construction of a vertical on the principle of loyalty, etc.
            1. +3
              19 August 2022 13: 29
              What gave you this change of power? As for me, this is evil for Russia! There is no "democracy" anywhere in the world, this is utter nonsense. As for Russia, she was either lucky or not with the rulers. History clearly shows this. Rurik, Monomakh, Ivan III and IV, Peter the Great, Catherine the Great, Joseph Stalin - the heyday of the empire. Nikolashka is bloody, labeled, drunk - her sunset.
              So it's not about change!
              1. 0
                19 August 2022 18: 12
                As for me, this is evil for Russia!


                Well, yes, irremovability is such a blessing that over the past 130 years there has been a collapse of the Russian Empire, the collapse of the USSR, and now Russia is again in a difficult situation.
    3. -26
      18 August 2022 14: 51
      Quote: Dos
      hi In reality, those who went through the same Syria, the battalion flight commanders - the regiment are not among the "Konashenkov-little fingers"! And some "stars" with false teeth hold on to positions and salaries! Should be updated as much as possible.

      are you sitting on bourgeois grants? there is just a PR campaign to discredit the generals of the Russian Federation is going on
      1. +23
        18 August 2022 15: 11
        Quote: poquello
        are you sitting on bourgeois grants?

        Or maybe those who make decisions in the Moscow Region sit on them?
        1. -13
          18 August 2022 15: 23
          Quote: ultra
          Quote: poquello
          are you sitting on bourgeois grants?

          Or maybe those who make decisions in the Moscow Region sit on them?

          don’t care, this Western PR campaign has not been canceled, the money goes to it
          1. +6
            18 August 2022 15: 31
            Yes, do not care about Western PR actions. Measures must be taken to bring the army structure in line with the requirements of the time.
            1. -9
              18 August 2022 15: 39
              Quote: ultra
              .Measures must be taken to bring the army structure in line with the requirements of the times.

              even familiar
              1. +3
                18 August 2022 15: 59
                I don't see any analogy.
                1. -11
                  18 August 2022 16: 11
                  Quote: ultra
                  I don't see any analogy.

                  was also
                  Quote: ultra
                  compliance with the requirements of the times.

                  it ended only with the loss of the CMEA, etc., such a recruited new general will come and "accidentally" lay down the army, what will you sing then?
      2. +13
        18 August 2022 15: 13
        Our generals discredited themselves when they sent columns of military equipment deep into Ukraine along the highway. Without any reconnaissance of the area, but for that FAST they reached the Kyiv region ... I don’t care how much we lost because of such “breakthroughs”.
        1. -4
          18 August 2022 15: 29
          Quote from hell machine
          Our generals discredited themselves when they sent columns of military equipment deep into Ukraine along the highway. Without any reconnaissance of the area, but for that FAST they reached the Kyiv region ... I don’t care how much we lost because of such “breakthroughs”.

          error of the SVR on the situation in dill, here, too, a lot of people shouted that it was worth going in and the Ukrainians themselves would throw off the Nazis, and the generals, according to the order of the troops, brought to Kyiv
          1. -1
            18 August 2022 15: 43
            I’ll tell you a secret, %60 non-brothers are sitting here, they were yelling and now they are yelling
            1. 0
              18 August 2022 15: 52
              Quote: marc75
              I’ll tell you a secret, %60 non-brothers are sitting here, they were yelling and now they are yelling

              this is not so, the chuyka does not work for everyone and does not always work, the bourgeois also assumed that in a couple of weeks Russia would be overwhelmed, but ours are crushing and defeating
              1. +2
                18 August 2022 17: 50
                Quote: poquello
                this is not so, the chuyka does not work for everyone and does not always work

                Especially when there is a direct order.

                Quote: poquello
                the bourgeoisie also assumed that in a couple of weeks Russia would be overwhelmed

                The bourgeois assumed that we, in 2 weeks,
                we'll take everything to the trash. That's why they pulled
                with embassies as far as Poland. returned
                far from immediately. They are still staring.
                Returning to the topic of the article: Khodakovsky,
                over the past years, firstly: I could, after all,
                survived, secondly: turned
                from the SBU officer to a serious military leader.
                Clear, balanced, successful. Well done!
                1. -4
                  18 August 2022 19: 39
                  Quote: Alex777
                  The bourgeois assumed that we, in 2 weeks,
                  we'll take everything to the trash.

                  no, it was an action to get stuck tighter
                  Quote: Alex777
                  Clear, balanced, successful. Well done!

                  with your cockroaches, like Strelkov
                  1. +2
                    18 August 2022 20: 50
                    Quote: poquello
                    with your cockroaches, like Strelkov

                    In my opinion, they have very little in common.
                    1. -3
                      18 August 2022 20: 56
                      Quote: Alex777
                      Quote: poquello
                      with your cockroaches, like Strelkov

                      In my opinion, they have very little in common.

                      well, they are, as it were, antagonists, which does not say anything about the absence of cockroaches
                      1. 0
                        18 August 2022 21: 11
                        Quote: poquello
                        well, they are, as it were, antagonists, which does not say anything about the absence of cockroaches

                        In this case, everyone has cockroaches. wink
                        I came across a version that the war is on
                        Donbass is planned by the States for
                        order that the regime planted by them in
                        Kyiv, could resist and do that
                        reformatting Ukrainians,
                        enemies of Russia, which we all see.

                        With good intentions, the road to hell is paved ...
                      2. -1
                        19 August 2022 03: 00
                        Quote: Alex777
                        In this case, everyone has cockroaches.

                        of course, everyone has their own, but the truth is somewhere nearby
              2. -2
                18 August 2022 20: 54
                the bourgeois then assumed that in a couple of weeks Russia would be overwhelmed,

                They assumed that Ukraine would be overwhelmed. That's why they didn't roar. And every day more and more boldly.
                The west is no longer afraid of the bear. Only General Frost is scary.
      3. -4
        18 August 2022 20: 52
        there is just a PR campaign to discredit the generals of the Russian Federation is going on

        In the Donbas? Yes it goes. Self-discredit.
    4. +1
      19 August 2022 04: 42
      Quote: Dos
      Should be updated as much as possible.

      It is necessary, who would doubt. But the replacement of peacetime commanders and chiefs with wartime commanders is a difficult process that does not go on by itself. The same String, God forbid he recover and return to duty as he wishes, - how many he blew in the platoon ... And when the time came, he turned out to be almost a god of war ...
      Somewhere up there, the idea should ripen that the war cannot be won by the bosses' servants and brave rapporteurs. And she will ripen when there is a threat to her own lompasnosny ass.
      This is the dialectic...
  3. GNM
    +6
    18 August 2022 14: 40
    ...Unfortunately, Khodakovsky did not name any names, so it is difficult to understand what specific personnel changes he is talking about. Moreover, in the armed forces they occur regularly ...

    That is, from nothing to do potryndeli nothing.

    1. +1
      19 August 2022 04: 46
      I believe he is talking about a systemic problem in general, because sometimes castling does not lead to the desired result - it has long been noted that rearranging beds in a brothel does not affect the increase in the profitability of an institution - girls of a different quality are needed.
      1. 0
        19 August 2022 11: 59
        Who needs to understand perfectly what he meant. hi
  4. +15
    18 August 2022 14: 41
    -Grandfather, can the grandson of a colonel become a colonel?
    - You can, granddaughter!
    - And the general?
    - The general has his grandchildren!
  5. -3
    18 August 2022 14: 43
    And here are the first swallows. So, look, and life will get better.
    1. +6
      18 August 2022 15: 21
      Quote: Corrosion_Inhibitor
      And here are the first swallows. So, look, and life will get better.

      For the entire time of the conflict in the Donbass, Khodakovsky has repeatedly expressed his point of view on the army world order ... but regarding what concerned the NM LDNR. Something was moving, something was not ... but for all this time nothing of the kind was said about the RF Armed Forces. I will not deny that I do not know everything, it may have been written and printed somewhere, but I have not seen it.
      1. -4
        18 August 2022 17: 50
        Here I am about the same. This is a positive process. For now ...
  6. +9
    18 August 2022 14: 46
    Therefore, important information is often hushed up in order to avoid the wrath of the authorities, so that the "speaker" is not inadvertently demoted.

    The more oaks in the army, the stronger our defense! It is difficult to break the system in the army, it will grind - you will not collect bones ...
  7. +13
    18 August 2022 14: 53
    Whom we brought up, we have.
    Three generations have already grown up after the collapse of the Union, who can only agree beautifully.
    There are no people in the leadership of the country capable of making decisions and being responsible for them.
    The army is the blueprint of society.
    Only a revolution in the minds of people and the emergence of passionaries in society will help here. And there will be many of them in the post-war period. War gives rise to openness of thought and people who speak it.
    But such people are afraid of any government.
    Conclusion. It is necessary to finish the SVO, until there are many free-thinking passionaries in Russia.
    1. +4
      18 August 2022 15: 31
      Strange conclusion. This is not a problem for the Russian or Soviet armies. This problem does exist. In all armies and at all times. Change of generations and concepts always exists. Especially in the army. And especially during the fighting.
      1. +2
        18 August 2022 15: 31
        Concepts, of course.
    2. -3
      18 August 2022 16: 55
      I do not recognize you in makeup!
      Quote: Arkady007
      Three generations have already grown up after the collapse of the Union

      More like two.
      Quote: Arkady007
      The army is the blueprint of society.

      good
      Quote: Arkady007
      But such people are afraid of any government.
      Conclusion. It is necessary to finish the SVO, until there are many free-thinking passionaries in Russia.

      Are you now for the "reds" or for the "whites"?
      In general, keep the well-deserved "+". Respectfully...
      1. -4
        18 August 2022 18: 31
        1. If we take historical measures, then the generation change is considered 25 - 28 years, but I'm talking about generations of schoolchildren who were given a different story and conclusions.
        2. I am for ours.
        But the delay in the SVO can lead to riots within the country on the basis of a misunderstanding of what is happening. Plus the appearance of violent. But the fights between their already got. It is better to fight on someone else's territory or to suggest how to beat.
        1. -3
          18 August 2022 18: 46
          Quote: Arkady007
          If we take historical measures, then the generation change is considered 25 - 28 years

          It is generally accepted that 30. But, in our realities, it personally seems to me that it is about 20.
          Quote: Arkady007
          But the delay in the NWO can lead to riots within the country based on a misunderstanding of what is happening.

          Well, how can I tell you ... "Muzhyuk (s)" .. (plebs, electorate, b_y_d_l .. (underline as necessary) they themselves do not understand their happiness given to us) wassat
  8. +15
    18 August 2022 14: 55
    This is a real problem, which, however, to one degree or another has always been.
    Many generals strongly dislike truth and reality, they consider it a violation of subordination.
    That is, their personal vertical looks like this: the Supreme (aka the Garant - you can’t upset at all) - the minister (of defense, internal affairs, the Russian Guard, the FSB) - the general - the truth is reality. And at the very bottom of this "vertical ladder" is the bearer of this very truth, a loser and a fool,
    who does not deserve anything good, and therefore he will not have anything.
    From personal experience and observations.
    This is based on the instinct of self-preservation and unhealthy careerism.
    Treatment: punishment for concealment and embellishment, up to criminal from the severity of the consequences. Such that all the general's buns will be eliminated, and the mother-in-law will be asked to justify five heliks in the garage.
    Conditions: political will is needed.
    1. Mwg
      +2
      18 August 2022 15: 06
      You are absolutely right, unfortunately..
    2. +5
      18 August 2022 15: 53
      Such a treatment will destroy the vertical of power, it will be necessary to create a new system, on other principles, where reason, mutual assistance are valued, in general, capitalism will be finished.
      1. -5
        18 August 2022 16: 57
        Quote: Alex66
        in general, capitalism will be finished

        And why is that? What did capitalism not please you in a developed legal system, where the LAW applies to EVERYONE?
        1. 0
          19 August 2022 10: 40
          What did capitalism not please you in a developed legal system, where the LAW applies to EVERYONE?

          These are fairy tales. There will always be someone a little "smoother", especially under capitalism.
          1. 0
            19 August 2022 10: 41
            It is these "fairy tales" that are one of the reasons for the collapse of the USSR.
  9. -1
    18 August 2022 14: 56
    Well, how does the battalion commander know what the spacecraft division commander is reporting, and the spacecraft to the district commander, all this is philosophy ... Daily reports are prepared from a bunch of documented sources, where unreliable data instantly pops up, the problem is different ... the response time to the problem that has arisen is too long, that from the outside it seems that everyone is hiding the truth. This problem is not only with us, it is in all large armies (USA, China), too huge a mechanism for collecting and analyzing information, which has not yet been automated, although work is underway.
  10. +1
    18 August 2022 15: 03
    during the Great Patriotic War, starting from the company, all reports were signed by three persons. Commander, political officer and employee of a special department. Here you can’t hide and you can’t ascribe.
    1. -1
      18 August 2022 15: 05
      Now the system of control over the submitted data is much stricter.
    2. +1
      18 August 2022 15: 15
      And at the same time they hid and attributed
    3. +3
      18 August 2022 16: 03
      Quote: Hariton Laptev
      during the Great Patriotic War, starting from the company, all reports were signed by three persons. Commander, political officer and employee of a special department. Here you can’t hide and you can’t ascribe.

      In the month of February 1944, the commander of the 6th IAK re-presented the award sheet with the application of certificates of downed enemy aircraft. Considering the award sheet and the certificates attached to it, I had a doubt about the correctness of the latter, i.e. whether certificates for the same downed planes were issued, only in different parts and persons. Having asked the Commander of the Air Force 3 on the merits of this question, I received an answer as I had previously assumed that Colonel FEDOROV showed exceptional dishonesty and fraud, attributing to himself twice the same aircraft shot down by him.

      © from a letter from Lieutenant General Rudenko to Chief Air Marshal Novikov

      And this story was revealed only because Ivan Evgrafovich, with his demands for awards, got Rudenko so tired that they began to look at his applications for those shot down under a microscope.
    4. +1
      18 August 2022 20: 40
      Where did the political officer and employee of the special department come from at the company level? And still, during the Second World War, they hid and attributed it.
      1. 0
        18 August 2022 21: 18
        - "Special officer" - hardly ... But "company political officer" - there was such a position! In the late 80s of the last century - it was definitely ... smile
  11. +8
    18 August 2022 15: 05
    This question has been standing for a long time, since the Chechen wars. It is necessary to prohibit by law the promotion of generals' sons and sons-in-law to senior command positions. There are a dozen careerists for one normal person. Already now it is necessary to make sure that the majority of units and formations are commanded by people who have gone through the Chechen wars in the positions of a platoon-company-battalion commander. When moving forward, you need to watch how a person fought, maybe he only climbed out of the headquarters tent into the toilet.
    1. 0
      18 August 2022 15: 15
      Now the commanders of the Chechen wars are over 50, the battalion commanders are over 60-70, what are you talking about? Of these, 99% resigned for length of service or health reasons. Yes, and it would not hurt to get acquainted with the biographies of Russian generals, the same Gerasimov, don’t talk nonsense
      1. -1
        19 August 2022 08: 51
        The second Chechen war ended (officially) 21 years ago. If the company commander, platoon commander was 22-25, now they are 43-46, the very age. And the battalion commander there was a little over thirty, which means now a little over fifty. No, it is necessary to cultivate mossy staff generals from the Arbat district and their sons, sons-in-law, nephews, in order to feverishly change commanders later.
    2. +2
      18 August 2022 17: 01
      Quote: fiberboard
      It is necessary to prohibit by law the promotion of generals' sons and sons-in-law to senior command positions. There are a dozen careerists for one normal person.

      And this "one normal" is to blame? In the general heap of it? It's also not entirely correct. Don't find?
      1. 0
        19 August 2022 08: 57
        Then out of ten generals we will have nine idiots. What's better? While I was serving at the frontier post, so many smart young officers were killed. They quit, left, and those who "have a hand", who were pushed upstairs, for the most part, are not good for anything, except to complain about contract soldiers and ensigns to higher authorities. Here are the results for you: explosions in Kurs and Dzhankoy.
    3. -5
      18 August 2022 20: 16
      Quote: fiberboard
      This question has been standing for a long time, since the Chechen wars. It is necessary to prohibit by law the promotion of generals' sons and sons-in-law to senior command positions.


      You will also agree so before sedition - to re-elect the president. Start from the bottom, the "ceiling" will collapse.
  12. -14
    18 August 2022 15: 11
    Some of these "traditions" serve to strengthen the country's defense power, others harm it.
    But does his "writing work" serve to strengthen the country's defense power or harm it?
    ---
    I don’t know what kind of brigade commander he is, but in terms of military correspondence, he can probably give odds to Sladkov, Kots (or Kats?) and others.
    ---
    that the old cadres are in no hurry to make way for the young commanders.
    Interestingly, does Khodakovsky consider himself to be among the cadres, old or young? And isn't it time for him personally to make way for the young?

    ДThe horn must be set free by the best, not by the young.
    Like, assign him because he's young. Won Zelensky young and?
    ---
    Therefore, important information is often hushed up in order to avoid the wrath of the authorities, so that the "speaker" is not inadvertently demoted.
    And this is written by the "glorified brigade commander" ?!
    And how long can "important information" be hushed up?
    And what will happen when this information comes out? Do not regret?
    ---
  13. +5
    18 August 2022 15: 17
    Unfortunately, this is still coming from the tsarist army. And if in the Great General Staff of the Reichswehr Moltke dealt with the generals of failures at the front, in Russia the losers were removed from command and the next novice came.
  14. +4
    18 August 2022 15: 23
    Reminds me of the situation on the eve of WWII. Many commanders were afraid to put the units on alert, fearing for their place and life, no matter how they were accused of provoking the German units. But there were others, for example, the commander of the 67th division, Nikolai Alekseevich Dedaev

    Being a talented military leader, a day before the start of the war, N. Dedaev gave the order to withdraw troops from the barracks for training and disperse them 15-25 km around the city. Thus, the first wave of fascist bombers bombed the empty barracks of the garrison.


    It was a pity there were few such talented ones, and first of all those who did not save their own skins.
  15. +3
    18 August 2022 15: 26
    War always brings forward the young and talented. And mediocrity always interfere with this process. As a rule, the first ones come out in the end, forward.
    1. +1
      18 August 2022 15: 38
      Quote: Skif
      As a rule, the first ones come out in the end, forward.


      there is no such rule, even mathematical statistics does not confirm this.
  16. +9
    18 August 2022 15: 26
    Well, this is a well-known problem with state employees. It's called "long service". It is advisable to sit exactly on the ass and wait for the next rank. The staff is like a herd of baboons, they break it, they lose it, they screw it up here. That's where they grew up.

    And how to make this swamp fight? They don’t need it, they need an increased pension and social security. guarantees, they went there for 20 years and went with their whole families.

    The vast majority of our soldiers and officers are fighting selflessly. But it's like a Superjet without 2 percent of imported parts - it's good, but it doesn't fly.
    1. +3
      18 August 2022 16: 07
      Quote from Gromit
      The personnel are like a herd of baboons, they will break them, they will lose them, they will screw up here.

      As usual, our sailor is unusually curious and extremely playful. Running along the corridor of the only aircraft carrier in Russia, he thoughtlessly poked a button on a pretty unsealed device with his dirty finger and a nibbled fingernail, and hearing a loud pop and the sound of pouring water behind the bulkhead, joyfully jumped and rushed into the bread slicer to steal butter. What does it matter to him that within a few seconds he incapacitated immediately more than a hundred of the best air-to-air anti-aircraft missiles in the world, for each of which the once fraternal Ukraine is fighting over more than one hundred thousand dollars with us according to the best world standards.
      © Vice Admiral Radzevsky

      Generally, it is better to have a hundred tanks in safekeeping than one excellent student in combat and political obedience. © smile
      1. -6
        18 August 2022 19: 02
        Why did the playful sailor run past someone else's post? Or why didn't you know yours? Why free access? Why is the device not sealed? Why is oil stolen in the Russian Navy in the 21st century? Fuel? Zips?
        Did the admiral explain? )
        1. -2
          18 August 2022 22: 29
          The cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" has been under repair since 1999. Since 1999! And no one cares. And you're talking about sailors.
        2. +1
          19 August 2022 10: 46
          Quote from Gromit
          Why is the device not sealed?

          So it was precisely on this occasion that the admiral was indignant - since on our a springboard for flight achievements, from time to time setting in motion and occasionally providing flights for shipborne aviation with even more rarely operating radio equipment © sailors run along the corridors, then what garden vegetable did the comrade officers admit that in these corridors there are devices without covers and seals?
  17. Eug
    +6
    18 August 2022 15: 34
    And the rest, beautiful marquise
    All is well All is well...
    As a result - window dressing and eyewash. However, it has always been and will be, if there is no case for the results of which you need to answer - not the most competent one is appointed to the position (and suddenly the boss will sit up), but the most convenient one, who, in case of problems, will definitely not prove his own correctness and incompetence of the boss. ..
  18. +3
    18 August 2022 15: 36
    One of the main troubles of the army is panic in front of negative reports to the command

    - so it reflects the degree of servility or "feudalism": depending on the angle of view;
    around, only "service people" are needed, who are both switchmen and lackeys rolled into one ...
    hence the problems, and not only in the army
  19. +5
    18 August 2022 15: 44
    here, first of all, blat and nepotism flourish ... it all looks something like this: at some point, one not very smart, but eager to become a general, gets a position and immediately cleans up behind him actively those who can sit him down and nurture stupid idiots. And if a career goes on, and it goes on for such careerists, all this swamp behind this character stretches upward ... And just like that, you can’t get rid of it. I'll even say it's impossible. Even if someone is knocked out of this chain and an adequate and intelligent officer is put in, then there is a high probability that the environment will simply rot him, because no one needs a potential competitor. Here only 37 years must be repeated.
    1. 0
      18 August 2022 20: 26
      Quote: AwaZ
      And just like that, you can't get rid of it. I'll even say it's impossible


      In fact, all this is regulated even without 37. It is necessary to select the amount of tangible and intangible benefits for each position so that the most important areas of work and key positions are of little interest to career-oriented people; make related and higher positions to which careerists come dependent in their benefits from the normal work of not very attractive but important positions, and then they will not interfere with each other.
      1. 0
        18 August 2022 20: 33
        who will do it? The system will not break itself. Good positions, with good salaries and jobs with kickbacks, completely without any responsibility - this is a paradise for a careerist. Therefore, they themselves control all this. And there is no way to smoke them out, unless you apply cruel and merciless purges.
        1. 0
          19 August 2022 07: 26
          This is regulated in the course of structural adjustments and reforms of the management systems themselves. Naturally, this does not happen immediately and not quickly. The main thing is that the principle of separating places with career opportunities from the most significant places where you need to work is not violated.
  20. 0
    18 August 2022 15: 51
    It's a little strange for me when the military participate in the voting for the election of the president, he is also the commander in chief. This is not trying to humiliate the rights of the military to elect the president. For example, no one will have a desire to vote to choose the commander of the regiment.
    In my opinion, the military should not vote to choose the commander in chief. I am far from the army, maybe that's why this idea, the regular military, will be considered non-military nonsense.
    1. -6
      18 August 2022 20: 20
      Our president is chosen not only by the military. For example, the guests of prisons and madhouses massively voted for the commander in chief and United Russia.
  21. -1
    18 August 2022 16: 03
    Not to name names is also a custom.
    To keep everything the same. (remember the suitcases of compromising evidence that remained unsold)
    And you name it - you can get a beginner in shorts .... a tradition too.
  22. +1
    18 August 2022 16: 10
    we must always tell the truth, no matter how bitter it is, so it will be clearer what to do in this or that situation !!!!!!!!!! especially when the war is on! otherwise the command will not be able to plan this or that let!
    1. +3
      18 August 2022 16: 33
      the point is precisely in command, it is most of all silent or lying
      1. 0
        18 August 2022 18: 47
        lie to themselves?
  23. +2
    18 August 2022 16: 28
    This is the most disgusting servility in the army and a silly bravura appearance in front of the boss, these are the traditions in Russia (
  24. +5
    18 August 2022 16: 38
    This is not only an army problem, there was a recent article about it in a business magazine - how to teach subordinates not to hide negativity. Those. not the traditions of the army or national traditions matter, the problem is an ordinary human one.
  25. +1
    18 August 2022 16: 43
    The system, as it was, remained rotten through and through, which is why THEY so strongly opposed the reforms, it’s always easier on the knurled one, the main thing is a career, an apartment, a summer cottage, a good and early retirement, and everything else often only interferes with this.
  26. -1
    18 August 2022 16: 56
    No matter how much I had to call Serdyukov again, so that he would again "clean the Augean stables." All the same, after Serdyukov, two years later we saw the New Army in the Crimea. It is unlikely that Shoigu could build something new in the two years that were before the Crimea.
    1. 0
      18 August 2022 22: 33
      Serdyukov categorically refused to buy products of the domestic defense industry. He said that Armata could not cost 2 times more than Leopard. And Kurganets is 5 times more expensive than Iveco. Therefore, the patriotic directors of the military-industrial complex removed him. True, he raised the salaries of the military by 6-5 times. Or maybe I'm wrong?
      1. 0
        19 August 2022 07: 56
        And you don't think that Serdyukov for Western "partners" "was dragging d ..." like against the purchase of his weapons. But they didn’t buy a lot of imported ones either, so it’s just talk. But in fact, he dispersed the ballast in the army. I don’t argue, a lot has suffered and I can’t help it. The forest is cut down, the chips fly. I think he was faced with a specific task, before the "partners" "to roll d ..." and clean the Army to the maximum. Agree the result was. Now, since the age of 14, with these "tank biathlon and" - the result is not very
        1. -2
          20 August 2022 07: 28
          At a meeting with USC representatives, the question of helicopter carriers came up. USC promised 5-6 years. Well, where 5-6, there are all 10. The French built in 9 months. Right ? But the fucking directors of the military-industrial complex (I do not deny that they are patriots) removed him.
  27. -1
    18 August 2022 16: 56
    Maintain discipline and leave these issues and reforms to the post-war period.
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    1. +1
      18 August 2022 17: 53
      In our B-70, they sometimes washed it, all the stains seemed to disappear, but then it was necessary to wash it with soap and rinse. And no one was on fire. The law is not written for fools.
  29. 0
    18 August 2022 17: 25
    "Old generals" are needed only for the entry of the Armed Forces into hostilities. It is necessary "regardless" to promote those who will determine the future of the Armed Forces for the next ten to fifteen years.
  30. 0
    18 August 2022 17: 50
    It is strange what they are afraid of, because we are not 37 years old?
    1. +1
      18 August 2022 22: 32
      Not the 37th, but the 41st. However, Stalin and his apparatus managed to establish a truthful flow of information. This is not just information, but feedback. Without feedback, control is impossible.
  31. +4
    18 August 2022 17: 51
    Good or bad news
    Report it to me as is!
    Better bitter but true
    Than pleasant, but flattery!

    Only if the ent is news
    It will be again - not God’s message,
    You are for this kind of truth
    You can sit down for ten years!
    L. Filatov "About Fedot the archer, a daring young man"

    Do not subtract - do not add. In two quatrains - the whole essence of the problem.
  32. +3
    18 August 2022 17: 57
    Any war conducts a tough, even cruel, screening of military leaders. An excellent administrator can turn out to be an absolutely useless commander on the battlefield, and vice versa, a person who did not have an ideal order in the barracks, on the contrary, in battle shows outstanding abilities in managing units of a unit or formation. With a sudden change in the situation, the administrator falls into a stupor, and the military talent instantly grasps the essence of the problem, gives clear orders, changes the battle plan on the go and achieves success.
  33. +2
    18 August 2022 18: 10
    [/ quote] important information is often hushed up in order to avoid the wrath of the authorities [quote]
    because if you report, don’t report, you’ll only rake a f..lei and you’ll still solve problems yourself, only you will already be unable to solve problems. And these problems come from the high command. From their unwillingness and often from their inability to fulfill their duties. The main task of those who made their way upstairs is not to cause trouble to the authorities, to be in good standing, and to take care of their own comfortable future. I myself have repeatedly observed that a person directly in the combat unit is adequate, and knows all the problems and tries to solve them and achieve something. As soon as they took away the top, that's it, a 180-degree flip. And often those who are useless in parts are moved upstairs, just to get them out of sight. And then they themselves begin to sip with a full spoon from orders from above. Idiocy? Yes. But unfortunately probably indestructible.
  34. +2
    18 August 2022 18: 16
    Quote: Ros 56
    It is strange what they are afraid of, because we are not 37 years old?

    Your post is an indirect confirmation that "37 years" is your liberal fiction.

    Because in Russia the subordinates were always afraid of the bosses more than the enemy. And without any "37 years". And they always lied. And often betrayed.

    Therefore, one day, before the start of a big war in 37, it was necessary to restore order.
  35. +2
    18 August 2022 20: 00
    I read the comments, and considered it my duty to remind, from my native, so to speak, sphere:
    a good, talented turner is not necessarily a good plant manager, and not even a good foreman or machinist....
    IMHO hi
  36. -3
    18 August 2022 20: 03
    But the problem is that the old cadres are in no hurry to make way for the young commanders.

    Did he fall off the moon? Such pravtika everywhere in Russia. Sedition.
  37. 0
    18 August 2022 20: 19
    For example, one of the troubles of the army is panic in front of negative reports to the command. Therefore, important information is often hushed up in order to avoid the wrath of the authorities, so that the "speaker" is not inadvertently demoted.
    It was not in vain that I. Strelkov told jokes on this topic ...))) Already before "VO", it finally dawned on him that it was enough to indulge the swindlers
  38. 0
    18 August 2022 20: 54
    Reform is long overdue, namely reform, not reshuffling. As they say in Odessa, these are two big differences.
  39. -1
    18 August 2022 20: 58
    trus trusit pered naczalstwem i pered wragom naczalnik nakazywajuszczyj za neprijatnuju prawdu durak i wreditel; za wranje w donesenju nado pered tribunal stawit wrun na wraga rabotajut dezu i czusz naczalstwu neset iz za etogo porazenja bywali wral wesnoj1942 Chruszczow Stalinu itog Charkowskoje porazenje RKKA
  40. -1
    18 August 2022 21: 17
    Quote from Voronezh
    indestructible.

    po mojemu istreblimyj tolko nikto ne istreblajet komu to etot bardak polezen oczeredne dokazatelstwo szto osobyje otdely i osobisty neobhodimye oczkowtiratelstwo i ugodniczestwo doklad osobista zdemaskirujet; osobistow pomensze bolszoj szans sowestnych prawdorubow najti a kontrol 5 podczinennych menszaja problema czem 50 i nesowmenno szto naczalnikosobowo oddela preuspejet w prowerke dostowernosti dokladow jeszczo na lzecow i obmancikow nastukajut i os obist z wojenprokurorom razberutsa a tribunal prigoworit za prestupnu dezinformacju naczalstwa predlagaju zaeto razstrel
  41. -1
    18 August 2022 21: 29
    Quote: Panzerjager
    the whole point of the problem.

    sut problemy w licznych kaczestwach naczalnika i podcczinenogo Suworowu Bagratjon ne wral a Kuropatkin na prawdorubow serdilsa a lstecow powyzsal i nagrazdal
  42. 0
    18 August 2022 21: 50
    Quote: Vladimir M
    Vat Serdyukov

    sztob okonczatelno WS RF upokoil Serdiukow byl mogilszczik WS eto wwel durak Chruszczow = grazdanskich w wojennym dele bezgramotnych ministrom obrony naznaczat / Bulganin/ a opytnych wojennych akademiczeskim obrazowanjem /Zhukow / w odstawku gn at ne chwatalo Rossji Generalow WDW gerojew Afgana szto torgasz mebeloj MO wozglawil
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  44. 0
    19 August 2022 05: 18
    He also had a panic before the Czechs.
  45. 0
    19 August 2022 10: 11
    These debates have been long awaited in Banderland and NATO.
  46. 0
    19 August 2022 15: 07
    In the neck is such a command. Or wait until it (the command) is destroyed by the enemy ...
  47. 0
    20 August 2022 07: 42
    Quote: Chronos
    Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
    In Russia, a messenger with bad news was mercilessly beaten with whips.
    It was not in vain that I. Strelkov told jokes on this topic ...))) Already before "VO", it finally dawned on him that it was enough to indulge the swindlers

    I would like to ask: did Strelkov himself, when he was the commander and minister of defense of the DPR, always cut the truth up? And did he achieve that he was always told the unpleasant truth?


    you probably forgot what he said in an interview on camera in Sloviansk?