Israeli defense minister justifies himself for meeting with the head of Palestine against the backdrop of his words about "50 holocausts of Palestinians from Israel"

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Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz defended his recent meetings with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas amid much-denounced Abbas in the country (at a meeting with Scholz) that Israel has committed "50 holocausts" against the Palestinians over the years.

Responding to attacks from right-wing politicians, Gantz said his meetings with Abbas were necessary to maintain security in the region, but he also called Abbas's comments "despicable and false."



I hear criticism of my meetings and meetings of security officials with the leadership of the Palestinian Authority

Gantz said.

However, the head of the country's Defense Ministry noted that he would continue to do everything necessary to maintain stability in the field of security and protect Israel's interests.

Abbas's remarks, made during a joint press conference with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in Berlin on Tuesday, were heavily criticized in Israel, the United States and Germany, including by Scholz himself, who was criticized for his silence during the press conference. Scholz allowed himself criticism already in social networks, after meeting with Abbas.

Later, Abbas tried to soften the situation, saying that he simply intended to highlight Israeli crimes.

Gantz has met several times with the Palestinian Authority president over the past year, most recently last month to discuss security coordination ahead of US President Joe Biden's visit to Israel and the West Bank.
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  1. +4
    18 August 2022 11: 48
    It's hard to be a politician. Whatever you blurt out, not your own so strangers will pull up by the tongue ...
    1. +8
      18 August 2022 12: 07
      To immediately appoint a member of the forum under the nickname "Krasnodar" as the Minister of Defense of Israel for life, or even for 3 life terms without the right to be re-elected for all this time !!! wassat
      1. +5
        18 August 2022 12: 18
        A couple of days ago I received a "yellow card" from moderators for a similar proposal. Be careful with "rationalizations" hi
      2. +2
        18 August 2022 12: 37
        Quote: Thrifty
        To immediately appoint a member of the forum under the nickname "Krasnodar" as the Minister of Defense of Israel for life, or even for 3 life terms without the right to be re-elected for all this time !!! wassat

        Why does such a small person as Krasnodar need such great happiness as a ministerial portfolio in Israel? ))
        Quote: ian
        A couple of days ago I received a "yellow card" from moderators for a similar proposal. Be careful with "rationalizations" hi

        Shaw, Krasnodar was also proposed to the Ministry of Defense? Again, the Jews are to blame for everything? laughing
        1. +1
          18 August 2022 12: 44
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Why does such a small person as Krasnodar need such great happiness as a ministerial portfolio in Israel?

          Then, if the Ministry of Defense provides three life sentences in good condition, then why not? wink
          Shalom you wellness, Al! fellow
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        2. +2
          18 August 2022 14: 42
          Why does such a small person as Krasnodar need such great happiness as a ministerial portfolio in Israel? ))

          Tyuyuyu, you will arrange the rest of the IDF on the coast ... of the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov)))
          1. 0
            18 August 2022 14: 54
            Greetings! hi
            With pleasure, by the way, the places near Temryuk are a fairy tale. Vineyards, the sea ... in short, even the average between France (south) and Spain
            1. +1
              18 August 2022 15: 02
              Albert, the eldest was in the camp in the village of Peresyp - reeds, heat and mosquitoes ... Well, the IDF will go))) KMB)))
              1. +1
                18 August 2022 15: 55
                Xe
                And not only KMB))
                Typical Israel laughing
  2. +4
    18 August 2022 11: 55
    The leadership of Israel has lied! The testimony is confused on the go!
    Or do they learn how to work like this from their Asashaevsky gentlemen?
  3. +1
    18 August 2022 11: 57
    He's a minor compared to old Joe. When he is like Grandpa Joe, it will be possible to say hello to an invisible person and look for a secret door behind the podium.
  4. +4
    18 August 2022 12: 00
    Palestinians encroached on the sacred?!
    1. 0
      18 August 2022 12: 58
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Palestinians encroached on the sacred?!

      The Palestinians forgot that the founder of their national liberation movement was in Berlin until 1944, was friends with Hitler and founded the SS Hajjar division)))
      1. +1
        18 August 2022 13: 52
        Look for Jews in the SS or not?
        1. +1
          18 August 2022 14: 04
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Look for Jews in the SS or not?

          Look, I'll spoil))
          In the Wehrmacht, by the way, there were
          But, the question is in the subject - let's say, some German, Hungarian and Polish Jews served the Nazis.
          The question is, which of the founding fathers of Israel created an SS division or was friends with Hitler? hi ))
          Do you understand what this is about?
          A nation whose founding hero Bander-Shukhevych and a nation that gave more than 170 GSS and half a million soldiers of the Red Army alone?
          Have you heard about the Palestinian Arabs in the ranks of the armies of the anti-Hitler coalition (except for a couple of hundred in the British)? What about the Syrians? lol Maybe Iraqis? laughing Or Persians? Hint - the Syrians, Iraqis and Persians participated in WWII, guess three times - on which side? laughing
        2. +3
          18 August 2022 14: 43
          Every nation has scum. We had Vlasovites. However, we are not proud of them and do not call the streets after them. Jews too.
          1. +4
            18 August 2022 17: 32
            And among the Palestinians, this is the hero-founder of the national liberation movement, so respected that Yasser Arafat enrolled him as his cousin uncle (the relationship has not yet been proven).
            I'm not saying all Palestinian Arabs are bad, but there are three things that piss me off about them:
            1) They themselves started the massacre and they themselves pretend to be victims;
            2) Heroizing their freaks, they make the most lame protests all over the world, organizing pickets near consulates, synagogues and shops with Israeli goods and halls where Israeli scientists give lectures, etc., demanding a boycott of everything Israeli around the world;
            3) Using the civilian population as a human shield, they accuse the Israelis of genocide and so on.
            Who do they remind me of, I will not write Yes
  5. +6
    18 August 2022 12: 02
    intended to highlight Israeli crimes.
    The Holocaust is a tragedy on a global scale, like the inhuman crimes against the Soviet people, but this does not justify the crimes of Israel in any way !!!
    1. 0
      18 August 2022 12: 42
      Quote: Trapp1st
      as well as inhuman crimes against the Soviet people

      Isn't this a global tragedy?
    2. +2
      18 August 2022 12: 45
      Yes, not 50 Holocausts against the Arabs, but all 250!
  6. +7
    18 August 2022 12: 11

    The Palestinians, like the American Indians, simply did not pay attention to the problem of European rabies in time.
    1. +2
      18 August 2022 12: 44
      Quote: Cowbra
      The Palestinians, like the American Indians, simply did not pay attention to the problem of European rabies in time.

      In France and Germany, they also don’t pay much attention yet, and Poland doesn’t mind yet.
    2. -1
      18 August 2022 12: 49
      laughing
      Well, what kind of nonsense? ))
      Quote: Cowbra
      The Palestinians, like the American Indians, simply did not pay attention to the problem of European rabies in time.

      They turned it right away - naked and barefoot with the money of the Rothschilds, they began to buy, paying at exorbitant prices, agricultural and other lands from the Arabs))
      And then they paid even more attention when the naked and barefoot built a sensible couple on them. Yes
      Well, how not to squeeze here? And away we go. True, as a result, what the hell was squeezed from the Arabs laughing
      As for the photo - the ships of illegal migrants, due to the opposition of the British, could not enter the ports - boats were lowered, people went to the beach on their own from the boats.
      And about Palestine supported the helpless Jews - lol What the hell is Palestine? ))) 400 years they sat under the Turks, 30 under the British, refused the UN offer to get their own state, trying to wring out what was ready from the Jews, and now Yes
      1. +2
        18 August 2022 13: 05
        Quote: Krasnodar
        naked and barefoot with Rothschild money

        Well, everything is logical - there was no Holocaust. everything was in openwork - with the money of the Rothschilds ... Only from the USA, with the money of the Rothschilds, the Jews were sent back to the German concentration camps ... The St. Louis steamboat - do you remember this one? With the landing of the Jews in Hamburg...
        Come on, bomb it, like Rothschild bought Jerusalem from Palestine, and no one stole anything, that is, did not annex it.
        You mold your propaganda in your Israel, and do not forget your favorite argument - "the Arabs are to blame because they are Arabs" (c)
        1. 0
          18 August 2022 13: 19
          Quote: Cowbra
          Well, everything is logical - there was no Holocaust. everything was in openwork - with the money of the Rothschilds ...

          With the money of the Rothschilds, it was at the end of the 19th and until the 20s of the twentieth century hi
          Google - First, Second, Third Aliya. In the middle of the thirties, the highest quality wave of emigration arrived - German Jews, then Austrian Jews. Universities set up, etc.
          Quote: Cowbra
          Only from the USA, with the money of the Rothschilds, the Jews were sent back to German concentration camps ...

          It's already 1940s
          Quote: Cowbra
          Steamboat St. Louis - don't you remember that one? With the landing of the Jews in Hamburg...

          Once again 1940s, WWII Yes
          Quote: Cowbra
          Come on, bomb like Rothschild bought Jerusalem from Palestine,

          Nobody bought Jerusalem - the Western part was built initially with Montifiori's money, then with other patrons' money, then with their own
          Quote: Cowbra
          no one stole anything, that is, did not annex.

          laughing
          But East Jerusalem passed into Jewish possession when the Jordanians opened fire on the Jews of West Jerusalem in June 1967, fulfilling their, so to speak, allied duty to Egypt, which blocked the Israelis in the Red Sea. Well, they grabbed the answer with the loss of territories, because war is evil Yes Especially when you climb on someone who is more qualified.
          Quote: Cowbra
          You mold your propaganda in your Israel

          Is it impossible in your Krasnodar? laughing
          Quote: Cowbra
          and don't forget your favorite argument - "Arabs are to blame because they are Arabs" (c)

          This is an argument you made up, but I still consider the Palestinians and Syrians to be Nazis Yes
  7. 0
    18 August 2022 12: 13
    And what did he say wrong about 50 Holocausts?
    1. 0
      18 August 2022 12: 48
      I made a mistake by one zero (missed), but maybe. and two.
    2. 0
      18 August 2022 12: 53
      Quote: Dizel200
      And what did he say wrong about 50 Holocausts?

      Well, there were no gas chambers and Babih Yars, and the massacre was started by Palestinian Arabs, and not only Jews, but also Kabardians, Circassians and other minorities and those who came in large numbers. request
      The fact that, instead of the planned massacre with the seizure of other people's property, they seized it themselves - this is not the Holocaust, this is "not figs under the boys to chase" Yes
    3. +2
      18 August 2022 15: 27
      Quote: Dizel200
      And what did he say wrong about 50 Holocausts?

      The Holocaust is the genocide of the people, and if you look at the growth of the population of the Arabs, then there is no need to talk about population reduction, but about birth control. Child mortality has fallen thanks to Jewish hospitals and rabbits envy the Arabs in terms of growth rates.
  8. +2
    18 August 2022 12: 18
    Two Semitic peoples experience such personal dislike for each other that they cannot eat. Until a friend, a friend is cut out, they will not calm down. "Bolivar, he cannot bear two." Will these two peoples ever be able to coexist peacefully? From generation to generation, mutual hatred has been accumulating for 70 years already ..
    1. -3
      18 August 2022 12: 57
      Will these two peoples ever be able to coexist peacefully?
      They can if they become independent. In the meantime, they both depend on an overseas uncle who needs tension in BV, they will be doomed to conflicts among themselves.
    2. -3
      18 August 2022 13: 05
      kor1vet1974
      Two Semitic peoples
      Well, until the beginning of the XNUMXth century, as you remember, there were no Holocausts and intifadas... Until politicians intervened. The impudent people raised the Wahhabis, and Hitler (yes, that's right! And "Mein Kampf" is published in Israel), the impudent people and the Americans - the Zionists. In fact, these graters are a reflection of the situation in the world. They cut down the forest - the chips fly ... Both the Arabs and Israel are such chips. The world will calm down - and there it will calm down. In the meantime, there is such a struggle for peace!
      1. -2
        18 August 2022 13: 35
        Quote: futurohunter
        Mein Kampf" is published in Israel

        Shaw you are confusing - Mine Campaigns are popular in Arab countries, incl. in those where Nazi parties are still legal Yes
        Quote: futurohunter
        impudent people and Americans are Zionists.

        lol
        From about the mid-1930s, the Zionists fought with the British, with a break in WWII, and the Americans lifted the embargo on the supply of offensive weapons from the Jews only after dear Leonid Ilyich began to intervene very specifically in the conflict with military advisers and not only Yes
        By the way - what side are the Wackhabis to the Arab-Israeli conflict? laughing
        1. 0
          19 August 2022 16: 26
          Krasnodar
          What are you confusing

          It's all very confusing here. About the cooperation of Zionists and Nazis in the Middle East was still in the Soviet book "The Curtain Raised". Read it, very interesting. I have not heard of completely Nazi parties in Arab countries, although the ideas are popular, and the Kataib party in Lebanon was created by its founder precisely after a trip to Nazi Germany. By the way, it was Kataib who was the main ally of Israel during the wars in Lebanon. Although the Hagans and Irguns fought with the British, the outlines of Israel began to appear after the declaration of the British Lord Balfour in 1918. And the British were expelled not only from Palestine, but also from Iraq, India, Malaysia and other countries. For they were already incapable of defending their empire. As far as the Zionists are concerned, they didn’t really fight with the arrogant people, but more and more with the Arabs. At least somewhere since the 30s.
          Now about the Wahhabis. They were a shabby sect, of which there were many in the Arabistan of the XNUMXth century, until the impudent people found oil there. And in order to master this region, they needed their own people there. Moreover, the oil-bearing regions lay under the Turks. So they helped the Wahhabis to create their own state of Saudi Arabia, which immediately allocated oil concessions to the Bryukans. As far as I understand, most of the Arab terrorist groups are tightly tied to each other. Including Wahhabi groups. Although, I'm afraid to offend you, but the most Wahhabi of them - ISIS, for some reason is not at war with Israel, and has not even made any statements about this.
          As for the one who helped Israel - so who just did not help. And the largest Jewish community in the United States, and Stalin, and the French, and even Germany is still paying reparations.
          As far as I understand, somewhere in the early 50s. the rulers of Israel had graters either with Stalin or Khrushchev, after which the USSR stopped helping, and relied on the Arabs. Then France helped Israel. And then some graters happened to France, and then the United States harnessed itself. I don’t remember all the details now, but, generally speaking, I respect the rulers of Israel for their political resourcefulness, and for the fact that they do not allow their country to perish in a rather difficult foreign policy situation. I would only add that if Israel now harnessed itself to Ukraine, it would be a fatal mistake. Although let them sell the Iron Domes))) There is no sense in them in Ukraine, but profit for Israel))
          1. +1
            19 August 2022 17: 24
            Quote: futurohunter
            Everything is very confusing here. About the cooperation of Zionists and Nazis in the Middle East was still in the Soviet book "The Curtain Raised

            Thanks for the recommendation, I'll take a look hi
            Quote: futurohunter
            I have not heard of completely Nazi parties in Arab countries, although the ideas are popular, and the Kataib party in Lebanon was created by its founder precisely after a trip to Nazi Germany.

            The Syrian SSNP is the second in the country after the Baath, seats in parliament, national battalions, an anthem to the tune of Deutschland ube ale, etc.
            Quote: futurohunter
            By the way, it was Kataib who was the main ally of Israel during the wars in Lebanon.

            Maronites with all their parties. By the way, the Lebanese branch of the SSNP fought against them.
            Quote: futurohunter
            Although the Khagans and Irguns fought with the British, the outlines of Israel began to appear after the declaration of the British Lord Balfour in 1918.

            During WWII, only Irgun Stern fought against the Britons - a hodgepodge of anti-imperialists, who until 1941 tried to reach out to Ribentrop for help in this "noble cause". After confirming the facts about the Holocaust, they stopped asking for support from the Nazis, but they fought against the British.
            The Balfour Declaration is window dressing, for the sake of money, for the Rothschilds during WWII. Then the Jews were thrown with her.
            Quote: futurohunter
            And the British were driven out not only from Palestine, but also from Iraq, India, Malaysia and other countries.

            Yes.
            Quote: futurohunter
            As far as the Zionists are concerned, they didn’t really fight with the arrogant people, but more and more with the Arabs. At least somewhere since the 30s.

            And with those and with others, but, of course, there were more skirmishes with the Arabs.
            Quote: futurohunter
            As far as I understand, most of the Arab terrorist groups are tightly tied to each other.

            No. A minority is tied, sometimes temporary unions are created, but, in principle, competing offices. Often at odds with each other.
            Quote: futurohunter
            Although, I'm afraid to offend you, but the most Wahhabi of them - ISIS, for some reason is not at war with Israel, and has not even made any statements about this.

            The official policy of the ISIS is to first overthrow the Arab regimes, only then we will take on Israel. In fact, they tried to attack the Israelis from Syria and Sinai, received non-illusory Jews from the Jews and stopped this thankless task. However, on their part it was PR - actions to attract new combatants to themselves, and on the part of the IDF - unpunished execution from the air of some kind of insects on monitors

            Quote: futurohunter
            As I understand it, somewhere in the early 50s. the rulers of Israel had graters either with Stalin

            Do public opinion in Israel because of the case of doctors.
            Quote: futurohunter
            after which the USSR stopped helping, and relied on the Arabs

            The USSR supported the creation of Israel as an anti-Brit location near the Suez Canal. As soon as the British were thrown out of Egypt, Khrushchev, in the most rational way, switched to the Arabs, because. Suez passed through their territory)).
            Quote: futurohunter
            Then France helped Israel.

            Israel helped France with intelligence on Algeria, especially Egyptian assistance to the National Front of Algeria, and the French helped Israel in everything, especially after the Suez Crisis.
            Quote: futurohunter
            And then some graters happened to France

            Two days before the Six Day War, De Gaulle, having left Algeria, wanted to be friends with the Arabs so as not to screw up the North African markets.
            Quote: futurohunter
            then the US stepped in.

            They harnessed themselves after 1967, because. The Union provided comprehensive assistance to Egypt, Syria, and most importantly, North Vietnam Yes
            Quote: futurohunter
            I don’t remember all the details now, but, generally speaking, I respect the rulers of Israel for their political resourcefulness, and for the fact that they do not allow their country to perish in a rather difficult foreign policy situation.

            If you want to live, you won't get so upset laughing
            Quote: futurohunter
            I would only add that if Israel now harnessed itself to Ukraine, it would be a fatal mistake.

            I agree. Not fatal, but very significant.
            Quote: futurohunter
            Let them sell the iron domes))) There is no sense in them in Ukraine, but profit for Israel))

            I do not agree - they take a package of Gradov / Tornadoes - but do we need it?
    3. +2
      18 August 2022 15: 45
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      Two Semitic peoples experience such personal dislike for each other that they cannot eat. Until a friend, a friend is cut out, they will not calm down. "Bolivar, he cannot bear two." Will these two peoples ever be able to coexist peacefully? From generation to generation, mutual hatred has been accumulating for 70 years already ..

      We already exist. There are peace treaties with Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The conflict with the Palestinians is political and is due to the unwillingness of the Palestinian elite to develop in the same way that Israel develops, because in this case, they will lose their power. And so, there is an enemy and all its backwardness can be explained by the fight against the enemy.
  9. +1
    18 August 2022 15: 02
    And what's wrong with that?
    What it is, they talk to it ...
    1. -3
      18 August 2022 15: 22
      And what's wrong with that?
      Just stubborn...
      1. 0
        18 August 2022 19: 20
        Quote: Trapp1st
        Just stubborn...

        Who would say
        1. -1
          19 August 2022 10: 10
          Who would say
          I'm telling you, as, in principle, any other normal person will tell you.
  10. +2
    18 August 2022 16: 58
    To make it clear to you who and what this article is about.
    Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen), 87 years old, during the Soviet era at Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow, received a Ph.D.
    worked for the KGB, where he is registered as an agent "Krotov".
    Abbas was elected on January 9, 2005 to the post of President of the Palestinian National Authority.
    In January 2006, Hamas won a majority in legislative elections. This led to a fight between the president of Fatah (Abu Mazen) and the prime minister and the government of Hamas. And a civil war between Fatah and Hamas began. As a result of the battle, Hamas gained complete control over Gaza. Fatah supporters believe that this was a simple military coup by Hamas.
    Today there is no single government. Gaza has its own, and on the territory of Israel, autonomy under the leadership of Abu Mazen.
    The last elections to the Palestinian Legislative Council were held on 25 January 2006. After these two elections, there were no presidential or legislative elections. They were appointed many times, but according to the information of the Israeli special services, Abu Mazen canceled them. he could not win them, and after losing, he was threatened with DEATH.
    That is why the Minister of Defense met with Abu Mazen to explain what was done and what is being done to preserve his power and his life.

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