Bet on the "God of War": Germany has developed a new concept for the organization of ground forces on the lessons of Ukraine

In Germany, a new concept of the structure of the ground forces of the Bundeswehr has been presented, in accordance with which a significant increase in army artillery, reorganization of the air defense system and the transformation of part of the mechanized brigades into motorized infantry are expected. German military leaders do not hide the fact that such a reform of the ground forces will be a response to the events in Ukraine, which forced NATO countries to take a different look at the nature of hostilities in eastern Europe.

At present, the German ground forces are composed of three divisions, two of which tank. However, in practice, tank divisions are mechanized formations with six tank battalions of 44 vehicles each. The undoubted advantage of the German mechanized divisions is the presence of a reconnaissance battalion and well-trained engineering units. Artillery remains the weak point of both these divisions and the Bundeswehr as a whole. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian events have demonstrated that the "God of War" has not lost its significance in our century.

For example, the 1st Panzer Division of the Bundeswehr has only 32 to 40 howitzers, according to the Polish publication Defence24. This is too small, even if modern artillery systems such as the Panzerhaubitze 2000 are used, the publication emphasizes.

In addition, there are obvious difficulties with the ability to use the division as a well-functioning formation, and not as a base for the formation of battalion tactical groups. Therefore, in the process of reorganization, it is proposed that the German tank units will consist of 2 tank and 2 mechanized brigades. Each of them will have 2 mechanized battalions and one (mechanized brigades) or two (armored brigades) tank battalions.

Two brigades that function today as armored and mechanized in the structures of the 1st Panzer Division: the 21st Tank Brigade and the 41st Armored Grenadier Brigade (motorized rifle) are to be converted into "medium forces" units on wheeled armored vehicles. Motorized infantry units are easier to deploy over long distances along the road network.

Another important structural change is the subordination of the 231st mountain rifle brigade to the rapid reaction force division. However, the real revolution will be the reorganization of the artillery of the Bundeswehr. In accordance with the new concept, it is planned to form up to five additional artillery battalions. Each of the German brigades will have an artillery battalion, and there will be one additional battalion at the divisional level. Thus, each of the tank divisions should have a total of four artillery battalions, and the rapid reaction force division, which must now use artillery support "above" 120mm mortars, will receive its own battalion.

Most likely, the newly created artillery units will be equipped with new howitzers on a wheeled chassis. Rheinmetall offers the KMW-Boxer system as a platform for mounting artillery pieces on a truck.

The concept also provides for the inclusion of an anti-aircraft battery in each artillery battalion of divisions of the ground forces. That is, we are talking about the restoration of army air defense. Apparently, such a decision was also made against the background of the assimilation of Ukrainian lessons. Interestingly, earlier the FRG handed over to Ukraine up to 30 Gepard complexes, weakening the capabilities of its own air defense.

Thus, the new concept of organizing the structure of the ground forces of the Bundeswehr can be considered as a general vector for reforming the German armed forces in the near future. Berlin is forced to strengthen the power of its army, while taking into account financial, economic and demographic factors.

The transition to wheeled vehicles will be more economical, and the restoration of army air defense and artillery will make it possible to increase the firepower of the German armed forces. Cooperation with the Netherlands and the inclusion of Dutch units in the German army will partially cover the shortage of personnel.

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[Mavrikiy]

Bet on the "God of War": Germany has developed a new concept for the organization of ground forces on the lessons of Ukraine

Now it will start to run in Ukraine. Or will he endure until Poland?

[neworange88]

This tactic was used by the French during the First World War against the numerically superior German troops. More artillery was used by the French, thus trying to balance the forces. Now this tactic of artillery superiority against the numerically superior enemy forces is used by the RF Ministry of Defense when conducting NWO. Everything new is well forgotten old.

The French offensive during the 1916 campaign was already based on the preparation of an infantry attack by methodically destroying enemy barriers for several days. French artillerymen tried to achieve complete destruction of enemy batteries and trenches; the intensity of the fire accompanying the infantry increased significantly - a fire shaft appeared; barrage and counter-preparation were practiced between attacks; chemical munitions began to be used for counter-battery combat.

To exploit the success, the movement of artillery was carried out - in order to provide the infantry with reliable and, if possible, strong support. At the same time, it was allowed to place artillery capacities in groups, but, in such a way that, as soon as necessary, they could be re-assembled into a fist. During the defense, artillery separation in depth, camouflage of batteries, flexibility in maneuvering and firing, and handling of reserves were used. In the course of the war, such issues as the close connection between artillery and infantry, the density of artillery fire, and the interaction of field and heavy artillery, both divisional and corps, acquired particular importance.

https://topwar.ru/119980-evolyuciya-taktiki-francuzskoy-artillerii.html

[Ilya-spb]

The Germans always had artillery at their best. And they shelled Paris in WWI.
Yes, and the Germans themselves used superiority in artillery against our army, especially in 1915, during the Great Retreat.

[Rome]

In PVM, the German army had an advantage in large-caliber artillery, France relied on 75mm rapid fire, they mowed down the infantry in an attack, but Germany had a significant advantage in positional warfare!
It is strange that in the divisions of the Bundeswehr there was a significant decrease in the number of artillery! During the Cold War, each division had 72 self-propelled guns and 18 MLRS

[Romario_Argo]

yesterday on the Reporter, I read an article about self-propelled guns PzH 2000
the barrel is designed for no more than 100 shots per day
this requires preheating of the barrel
(dutch in afghan gas burner)
tin - you need to press the war to pause - and save
and our Msta-S self-propelled guns only bring shells

[Bogalex]

Roman, read less yellow press. Everything is fine with the PzH 2000 both with the shot and with the fire mode.
And it does not differ from our "Msta" in this respect - the laws of physics, oddly enough, are the same for everyone.

[Devil13]

Guderian: hold my beer....
USSR: and my vodka, have you completely forgotten how to take it into the environment?

[Maz]

Yesterday, a video of how our Ka-52 was shot down was broadcast on Ukrainian public pages.
And here are the details. To understand the level of our pilots and not only.
https://t.me/Mikle1On/4844
The helicopter took off on a combat mission. Destroyed the enemy's opornik, while the BC exploded there. Quote. "There, along the way, even the bacteria died."

After that, 5 launches were made on our helicopter. Five launches!!!!!. Three repelled the Vitebsk system and heat traps. After the first hit, the helicopter continued to leave the area, and only after the second hit was forced to land. That is, the Ka-52 is an ingeniously tenacious machine.

Don't fall. Sit down! The pilot and navigator prepared to fight. Even though one of them was damaged.
In a few minutes
the PSS group arrived. We were pulled out under enemy fire. As one of the crew members said, "PSS f ... w what wolves." Well, yes. Fly to the gray zone, pull out your own, return all alive.

The crew of the helicopter is intact. Light damage to one of them does not count. The men are eager to go on sorties again.

Such are the days. Such heroes. Pilots, rescuers, doctors.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yesterday, a video of how our Ka-52 was shot down was broadcast on Ukrainian public pages.

Let's stay on topic, don't clutter up the forum.

[Konnick]

Comrade pluses wanted, he got

[Everevil]

German military leaders do not hide the fact that such a reform of the ground forces will be a response to the events in Ukraine...

Only naive Ukrainians (not "politicians", they understand everything, oddly enough) still believe that the West provides them with military assistance for beautiful eyes and out of sympathy. Guys, you have been living on a big, big training ground for a long time. You have been experimented on for a long time.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Only naive Ukrainians (not "politicians", they understand everything, oddly enough) still believe that the West provides them with military assistance for beautiful eyes and out of sympathy.

They all understand that they themselves are using the West for their own purposes. They would like to peacefully return the Donbass, they would fulfill the Minsk agreements and take control of this region without a single shot, but they deliberately made sacrifices only in order to eradicate everything Russian in Ukraine.

[South Ukrainian]

Quote from Everevil

the west gives them military assistance for beautiful eyes

What beautiful eyes. I feel that in the autumn they will cut down all the remaining trees in Ukraine, we will help Europe not to freeze. (It's just that there is such information about helping with firewood)

[filibuster]

And if they don’t cut down and freeze? There is talk that Ukraine and Europe will freeze almost every year after 2014.

[South Ukrainian]

Where do you live?? I live in Ukraine and I just see with my own eyes how our forest belts are shrinking. Evil takes, but I understand with my mind that this is not from a good life. And this winter will be the most "difficult", so there are no illusions.

[filibuster]

In Petersburg. Winter will not be easy in every sense, but it is not at all obvious that the EU and Ukraine will freeze and run to ask for peace.

[South Ukrainian]

They will definitely not run to ask for peace, they are just puppets. Only from this, there will be no more trees in Ukraine)))

[Aaron Zawi]

Today, everyone is studying this conflict. Such numerous and motivated armies have not faced for a long time.

[forty-eighth]

What does the Israeli press write? Who wins, who is right, who is the culprit, what are the prospects for both sides?
You can answer privately if it's more convenient for you.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: forty-eighth

What does the Israeli press write? Who wins, who is right, who is the culprit, what are the prospects for both sides?
You can answer privately if it's more convenient for you.

According to our media, you win. At the tactical level.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Today, everyone is studying this conflict. Such numerous and motivated armies have not faced for a long time.

Yes, only from the West they look from the point of view of "what and how can aviation be done here", because. on both sides, with the exception of the UAV, the air force is used rather sluggishly, compared to NATO / Jews.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnodar

Yes, only from the West they look from the point of view of "what and how can aviation be done here",

Of course, in such a situation, when aviation does not work, tank attacks run into resistance, the "God of War" remains (but of the past), and not modern.
In modern warfare, aviation begins by destroying air defense systems, and then everything that is considered important, according to satellite intelligence. And only then, under the cover of the same aviation, ALL ground forces and the Navy work in close cooperation.

[Krasnodar]

Yes, since Desert Storm

[Vyacheslav34]

How not to develop the concept of the "God of War" all the same, they need to send their empty-headed ones to learn from us how to properly apply this "God of War" himself, they began to learn from 19.10.1942/XNUMX/XNUMX they still do not know how

[Krasnodar]

Americans from North Africa have effectively used Arta. Rommel complained that in the desert, the Amer artillery did not give the Germans the opportunity to approach the enemy at a distance of a machine-gun shot.

[GNM]

Germany lost both world wars and was blown away, there is nothing to puff out now. Their destiny is to be a donor, to plow until the age of 67, while other EU countries arrange siesta for themselves, spitting at the ceiling. And to be silent in a rag, even if some villager calls their chancellor liver sausage.

[South Ukrainian]

Let's not talk about WWI. But in the Second World War, if it were not for the dedication and heroism of the Soviet people, the Germans would have conquered the whole world.

[filibuster]

Without the economic assistance of the United States (Lend-Lease), no matter what dedication and heroism of the Soviet people helped, and even Stalin noted that we would not have won without American engines. For a long time, any war is primarily the rear and the economy.

[South Ukrainian]

What are you talking about?)) The total amount of this assistance was 8-9% of what was produced in the Soviet Union during the war. And these deliveries began after the Anglo-Saxons realized that Germany would not win. Yes, for sure, without this "help" (for which, relatively recently, they finally paid off), the war lasted, for some more time, but no more.

[filibuster]

Well, firstly, these are the words of Stalin that without American engines we would not have won. . The second 8-9% is pure manipulation, look at specific types, how many percent are from cars, gunpowder, communication wires, medicines, pairs of shoes, steel, aluminum, copper, etc., and it is perfectly clear that without this help there would simply be no resources to lead offensive.

As for the delivery time, tanks from England even participated in the battle for Moscow.

[South Ukrainian]

Read the memoirs of people's commissars, but for some items deliveries reached tens of percent, such as aluminum or trucks. But there were also many urgently needed materials, the volume of supplies of which, from those produced in our country, did not even reach a percentage.
On June 24, 1941, the newspaper in The New York Times quoted Senator Harry Truman, who told reporters: “If we see that Germany is winning, then we should help Russia, and if Russia wins, then we should help Germany ...”
Do you remember these words of his? So we began to receive the main assistance after the Battles of Stalingrad and Kursk. In general, the USSR received about 2 million tons of cargo during the war - this is not much at all. For example, a small port with five berths, handling 1-3 steamships per day, will handle such a volume of cargo in one month.

[filibuster]

Read the memoirs of people's commissars, but for some items deliveries reached tens of percent, such as aluminum or trucks.

For example, cars were delivered 160% of the number produced in the USSR. Explosives 50%, copper 76%, aluminum 106%, tin 223%, cobalt 55%, aviation gasoline 55%, canned meat (all types) 480%. Now imagine that all this would not have happened.

So we began to receive the main assistance after the Battles of Stalingrad and Kursk.

There is such a saying that a spoon is for dinner, at the beginning of the war, when nothing was missing and every gun counted, the help of 30-40 British tanks was essential. And in 42 there were already decent deliveries through lend-lease.

On June 24, 1941, the newspaper in The New York Times quoted Senator Harry Truman, who told reporters: “If we see that Germany is winning, then we should help Russia, and if Russia wins, then we should help Germany ...”

But you never know what the senator said, with us Molotov criticized England that she was howling with Germany and the USSR was actively trading with Hitler at that time.

[South Ukrainian]

Quote from: filibuster

For example, cars were delivered 160% of the number produced in the USSR.

At the beginning of the war, there were 281 cars in the Red Army, within 377 months, another 2 cars were requisitioned from the "citizen to the army", plus during the war years, 206 were produced. The total is 169 cars, gave the national economy of the USSR. We received 265 for Lend Lease. 600% is no longer available. Historian Alexei Isaev, who is "seriously" dealing with the topic of the Second World War, claims that in the 753th year, in the summer, 146% of the cars in the army were domestic. In addition, not all of the cars delivered were the famous Studebakers. There were many cars with a carrying capacity of a ton and a half. So: in the most difficult periods of the war of 409-500, when it was necessary to survive, the Red Army, in the overwhelming majority, relied on domestic ZIS-160 vehicles, "one and a half" and STZ-44 tractors. I'm talking about the automobile Lend Liz. If you're interested, I'll continue tomorrow, it's too late.

[South Ukrainian]

As for aluminum: I will not give statistics, (for sure, there was really a lot of aluminum delivered) let's talk about no less important, about quality. Here is what Alexey Shakhurin, People's Commissar of the aviation industry, writes in the prewar years and the war years: Around the spring of 1942, materials that arrived under Lend-Lease began to appear in our warehouses. As for rolled products from light alloys, as a rule, due to long sea transportation about half of it became unusable due to corrosion. As a result, imported rolled products were launched mainly for internal plant needs, only domestic metal was used in the aircraft themselves. As a rule, designers and enterprise managers used these materials with great apprehension, demanding their own - domestic, proven and tested. I recommend that you read the book by A. I. Shakhurin "Wings of Victory", if you are interested in the history of our country during the Second World War, you will like it

[rocket757]

Bet on the "God of War": Germany has developed a new concept for the organization of ground forces on the lessons of Ukraine

STRANGE! From all sides it is heard that the NWO is being conducted in such a way that it is completely, completely, like the last war !!!
So why should the most, most, progressive armies of the foreign countries, change something, rebuild it for this type of hostilities ???
Ali, something is WRONG and they are in a hurry to react to it?

[Maluck]

Most likely, the newly created artillery units will be equipped with new howitzers on a wheeled chassis.

Placement on a wheeled chassis makes the art gun dependent on the state of the car. If it is out of order, then the gun is not in service. In this regard, a towed gun has much greater mobility, and in which case the gun can be towed even by a tank, if the need arises.

[Krasnodar]

It is destroyed faster, because. curl up takes longer. And to change the location of the cannon artillery, in the presence of counter-battery radars, preferably after three shots, according to Khodakovsky, if I'm not mistaken, after 4-6 you are already covered with an answer.

[Glory1974]

There have long been two types of armies in the world: the Prussian and the Anglo-Saxon.
Prussian, this is Germany, Russia, etc. - a bet on artillery, and a general priority for ground forces.
Anglo-Saxon, this is the USA, England and their allies, a bet on aviation and navy.
Germany by NATO standards has lost its artillery.
USA for action in Europe in 41-45. began to deploy ground forces, which she corny did not have in the right amount.
There are a number of differences, it pulls for a separate article. But in general, we can conclude that not only Germany draws conclusions, but NATO standards will also undergo changes.

[iouris]

Nuclear weapons are the "god of war".
The Russian Federation is the only nuclear power that has not tested nuclear devices and has not demonstrated their serviceability. It's time.

[Simple]

If the Bundes is preparing for wars in the short term, then yes - artillery is the god of war.
And if ten years ahead - then no - the massive use of kamikaze drones with AI will turn the god of war into a vulnerable unit.

[iouris]

You are an optimist, my friend: ten years ahead!
But I'm almost sure that the ZaNPP is a nuclear bomb that is already being detonated.

[Aist_M]

Have you heard about the explosion in Kurchatov?

[Amateur]

Presented in Germany new concept ground forces structures

Between the "concept" and the actual organization of the army in the form of new / amended regulations, the difference is approximately the same as between "phone sex" and "just sex."

[rotfuks]

In Germany, ladies have served as ministers of defense for many years. You can talk as much as you like about new concepts for the army. The leg army led by a lady is rather a funny army.