Ukrainian "bridgehead" on the left bank of the Ingulets turned into a "shooting gallery" for Russian troops

Ukrainian troops that had previously crossed to the southern (left) bank of the Ingulets River, having entered the Kherson region in the north, now found themselves in a virtual trap. We are talking about the so-called Ukrainian "bridgehead", on which the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already suffered losses comparable in number to the regiment.

The morning report of the Ukrainian General Staff on August 17 says that Russian troops reached the settlement of Belogorka, which is located south of Davydov Brod. It was on Davydov Brod as a reference point of the "bridgehead" that the Ukrainian command staked for a further offensive on the central part of the Kherson region.

In the version of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, "the enemy withdrew during the attack on Belogorka." In fact, the Russian troops, having carried out reconnaissance in force, revealed the approximate strength of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of ​​Belogorka and Davydov Brod, the main firing points. Convinced that the Armed Forces of Ukraine actually had no opportunity for their retreat (behind the Ingulets River), the RF Armed Forces launched a series of attacks on their positions, which once again significantly reduced the number of the enemy in the indicated direction.

Thus, the "bridgehead" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the left bank of the Ingulets managed to turn into a real "shooting gallery" for the Russian troops. Revealing the positions of the enemy and carrying out raids, preventing him from seriously digging in and creating fortifications, a systematic fire impact is carried out in this steppe area. Due to the lack of any serious shelters, the positions of Ukrainian militants at the junction of the Nikolaev and Kherson regions become a target for the RF Armed Forces. Accordingly, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not come out with the repeatedly promised counter-offensive, in the course of preparation for which they were not so much interested in Kherson itself, but in the opportunity to enter territories that would allow missile strikes on Crimea, including the Crimean bridge.

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[Uprun]

Well, throw them into the river ....

[Mavrikiy]

Quote from uprun

Well, throw them into the river ....

Why, they themselves will rush, how to wash their pants it will be impatient.

[alex neym_2]

Most likely they will arrange a massive swim in honor of the next "victory" ...

[The black]

The most popular target for our gunners is the "running boar"

[impostor]

- Sailing beautifully!
- Who?
— That group in lacy swimsuits over there.

[Barabashka]

generally striped

[impostor]

generally striped

This is in a striped flight in striped, in this situation in lace and yellow-black

[guerilla707]

Reference to the "robin wedding"

[Sergey Kuzmin]

... they themselves will rush, as soon as they want to wash their pants.

It's been a great trap. Now salonatsikov there needs to be completely destroyed, so that it would not be habitual. And then cut the transport routes connecting Krivoy Rog with Nikolaev and Odessa. And knead the Ukronazis with artillery, rockets and aircraft if they try to unblock these transport routes.

[alexey sidykin]

Quote from uprun

Well, throw them into the river ....

What for? It is better to plow with the earth, it will be more reliable.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

What for? It is better to plow with the earth, it will be more reliable.

It was rightly said that it is not worth spoiling the water in the river.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote from uprun

Well, throw them into the river ....

What for? They so stubbornly climb onto the "target field", where every bump is shot. Well, put another brigade. What are they, sorry? To me - no.

[max702]

There is a feeling that for this reason the bridges do not blow up and destroy the logistics of the ruins, they simply grind the military potential of the enemy, trying not to destroy the infrastructure of the future trophy, in the Donbas everything is already broken for this reason and there is no real progress, the goal is to exhaust the enemy and let it run out of steam so that later with minimal losses, move forward sharply, reaching the goals of the operation ..

[maksbazhin]

Grinding mostly mobilized, prepared to stay away. There is not much sense from such grinding, except for the embitterment of the bulk of Ukrainians, which is what Zelensky is trying to achieve.

[malyvalv]

Anger at whom? On those who forcibly mobilized and placed a detachment behind to reliably kill?

[maksbazhin]

Yes, there everyone will get it, including Russia. There will be no such thing that Zelya mobilized and ruined, and we kind of stood on the sidelines.

[malyvalv]

There is no point in minced meat complaining about the meat grinder.

[Bayun]

How will it be? We reread the events of the Civil War and roughly understand ... White-Red, Russian-Ukrainian. After a couple of years of peaceful life, 86% will forget about the fight, and the strongly ideological ones will live with it all their lives.

[Eug]

If the Armed Forces of Ukraine retreat, they will blow up all the bridges behind them. The reason for the "non-undermining" of bridges is clearly different - either there is no opportunity, or someone's business interests.

[max702]

I wrote about the reason, the grinding of the military resource of Ukraine and NATO countries in the already destroyed territory .. And the fact that the bridges will be destroyed when leaving this does not go to a fortune teller ..

[Obliterator]

Quote: max702

I wrote about the reason, the grinding of the military resource of Ukraine and NATO countries in the already destroyed territory .. And the fact that the bridges will be destroyed when leaving this does not go to a fortune teller ..

This is more like the grinding of the male population of Ukraine.

[max702]

Quote: Obliterator

Quote: max702

I wrote about the reason, the grinding of the military resource of Ukraine and NATO countries in the already destroyed territory .. And the fact that the bridges will be destroyed when leaving this does not go to a fortune teller ..

This is more like the grinding of the male population of Ukraine.

Like it's something bad..

[Obliterator]

Quote: max702

Like it's something bad..

What's good? This is not some kind of overseas tmutarakan, but in the future, Russian territory, where someone will have to establish a peaceful life. Well, they grind mostly mobs, who don’t need this war for nothing.

[max702]

We don't need wildlife either.

[Obliterator]

Quote: max702

We don't need wildlife either.

With such a mood, do not forget to extinguish the women and children too, otherwise they will not say thank you to the Russian army for the funeral of fathers, husbands and children.

[Cannon]

"Holy place, empty does not exist", but what's the point of keeping poisonous vipers with cubs behind your back? I personally have never seen a more insidious creature than a woman.

[mojohed2012]

There is a war going on, whatever you call it. Mobilized "considering themselves not Russian" Ukrainian men dutifully follow the summons to the draft board without any resistance, without evading and hiding from the draft board, without trying to hide in other regions or go abroad.
There is - just a humble agreement with the position of the Nazis and the people's commissar Zelya - they say that Ukraine and independence were attacked by insidious Russians who want to take the land, they say to destroy your wives and children and all that ...
And those mobilized for this are not being led because, deep down, they don’t understand that somehow this is all wrong or stupid from propaganda, but simply - a neighbor and a friend went to fight on the agenda, and everyone around is angry at the Russians and we are sure that NATO is helping them on the front and they are overpowering the Russians.
Therefore, stupidly, the men follow the agenda dutifully, lying that the Ukrainian state will dress them, put them on, arm them with ultra-modern weapons and armor.
But in reality, Ze and Co. are stupidly driving meat under Russian artillery and special forces, multiplying losses.
And those "Ukrainians" do not give up just because there are detachments, there is no source of information from the Russian Federation and the LDNR about captivity and life after it, but there is propaganda about the torture and murder of VSushnikov.
That's all on this smelly from CIPSO and Ze and goes.
And I am mobilizing in herds and groups, all obediently, driving away thoughts and doubts, simply following the principle - I went to fight earlier, and I will go, but what the neighbor says and the wife and relatives of the Russians hate - they say go beat them so that Krajina is again independent. And that such a mobilizant has no chance of successfully fighting and staying alive - he doesn’t know, he is being led to affordable easy propaganda for an early victory!
Something like this!

[max702]

Quote from Canon

"Holy place, empty does not exist", but what's the point of keeping poisonous vipers with cubs behind your back? I personally have never seen a more insidious creature than a woman.

Hohlosamki raised this concept to the absolute!

[mojohed2012]

Embittered to the subconscious by the Bandera and Polish myth-makers, Ukrainian men, who since the 90s have considered Muscovites stupider, dumber and darker than themselves (lower in status in life) must either survive the horror of the war and understand that somehow something different is pouring into their ears in fact, there is no need to take rear stories and information so literally. Or, since you are stubborn and think that the Russians are going to cleanly genocide everyone, and Ze and Co. with Nata are dressed, then it's time for meat. Whatever you call it, but Ukraine must be ground, denazified and demilitarized cleanly, so that for years to come no one from its territory threatens us and does not drive the Nazi mutate with stupid empty Russophobia.

[max702]

For 70 years, the red-bellied men hammered into their heads that they are the first grade, and the eternally drunk and lazy Russians are the third and no more, and all this was confirmed by deeds investing real money and resources in the Ukrainian woman .. Here is a resident of Ukraine and compared his life with poverty in Russia and believed that this was precisely his merit, and not that the Russians were robbed in his favor and he lives far from his own. From there, the root of all troubles and Ukrainian Nazism, which the commander-in-chief spoke about in front of the NWO

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: max702

trying not to destroy the infrastructure of the future trophy

and if the Nazis still hit the nuclear power plant ?? and then these trophies will not be tender to anyone (((

[Obliterator]

Quote: Tiksi-3

and if the Nazis still hit the nuclear power plant ?? and then these trophies will not be tender to anyone (((

If they wanted to, they would have got there a long time ago. In the barracks with the prisoners of Azov, they threw the suitcases aptly the first time.

[Sergey3]

Then why are there so few bombs? Are the bombs out? I do not believe! An airplane flies to the fortified area once every 40 minutes, drops a couple of bombs and that’s it, our grandchildren will finish grinding the NWO at such a pace.
Here is a picture of what is happening in the ports of Western countries (fresh by the way). Port of Greece. All this was brought for Ukraine. And there are many such ports.

[max702]

You perfectly confirmed my version!

[Alexander Salenko]

The same is said below. Excellent opportunity for grinding. And the Kherson region: you go out into the field, sit down, uh, rest, it’s far to see you.

[Fisherman]

why throw it in the river? Let them send more to the targeted positions. Ours perfectly "bought" dill on their desire for PR "victories", gave them a piece of the coast and grind the dill ... the dill will have to send more "meat" to this coast, otherwise they will lose the PR "victory" ... so they spend mobre reserves Ukronazis!

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from uprun

Well, throw them into the river ....

Following a telephone conversation with the Chief of Defense Staff of the Canadian Armed Forces, General Wayne Donald Eyre, Zaluzhny said that "the enemy continues to advance along the entire front line." According to him, Russia, the DPR and the LPR “carry out about 700-800 shelling” of Ukrainian positions per day, using “from 40 to 60 thousand ammunition,” writes Gordonua.com.

According to Zaluzhny, the “main efforts” of the allied forces are “focused on pushing out” Ukrainian troops “from the Donetsk region”, and “the most tense situation now is in the Avdiivka-Peski-Maryinka direction.” Besides, Kyiv "is concerned about the location of missile systems along the state border from" Belarus.https://vz.ru/news/2022/8/17/1172973.html So we will cut off the Poles from the border with Ukraine. Pleases.

[NikolayDS]

Quote: 30 vis

So we will cut off the Poles from the border with Ukraine. Pleases.

Why rejoice? It is a pity that Poland turned out to be incapable of negotiating!
The situation is like in a joke:
- We have planned group sex with your wife. Will you participate?
- No.
- Well, then I'll strike you out.

All of Europe is hard to beat. Yes, and it is not beneficial to us.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: NikolayDS

So we will cut off the Poles from the border with Ukraine. Pleases.

What rejoice?

Rejoice at the fact that they will not give Poland a piece of ancient Russian land.

[NikolayDS]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: NikolayDS

So we will cut off the Poles from the border with Ukraine. Pleases.

What rejoice?

Rejoice at the fact that they will not give Poland a piece of ancient Russian land.

Did you really study history in school?
According to your logic, the lands of France are also ancient Russian principalities. Anna Yaroslavovna, Queen of France - and everything. Go ahead, wet your boots in the Seine.

[Xnumx vis]

That is, in your opinion, Lviv is not an ancient Russian city? It was not built by Russian princes and it was not named after the son of one of them? ..So ? And this land was not called Red Russia? So ? We probably studied using different textbooks, read different books on history. You most likely read the Talmud, went through the rite of circumcision. So you are full of hatred for a foreign country and its history.

[NikolayDS]

No, I haven't read the Talmud. Probably for this reason, I do not consider Lviv an ancient Russian city. And about Red Russia - it’s very interesting where you got it from, from what sources .. But everything about your “historical” approach is already clear to me, so I see no reason to discuss something further.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: NikolayDS

And about Red Russia - it’s very interesting where you got it from, from what sources .. But everything about your “historical” approach is already clear to me, so I see no reason to discuss something further.

And I'm not interested in discussing anything with an uneducated person. Read books on the history of Russia, Russia. Where did you get it from ... From there.

[NikolayDS]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: NikolayDS

And about Red Russia - it’s very interesting where you got it from, from what sources .. But everything about your “historical” approach is already clear to me, so I see no reason to discuss something further.

And I'm not interested in discussing anything with an uneducated person. Read books on the history of Russia, Russia. Where did you get it from ... From there.

I'm sorry, but I can't follow your advice... The fact is that I once studied at the history department, and this greatly affected my attitude. So now, when I read pseudo-historical fantasy, I get very nervous, and sometimes even freak out. And the nervous system is dear to me as a memory, nerve cells are restored for half a year, and I don’t want to sacrifice this resource even for the sake of one graphomaniac book.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: NikolayDS

The point is that I once upon a time studied at the history faculty,

The key word is once ...... Traditions of antiquity deep.

[Alexander Salenko]

Why destroy such a wonderful meat grinder? Let them transfer new forces and iron them. A friend of mine ate a bald patch for this bridgehead, well, he is one of the all-weeders, so I’ll throw this news to him.

[PROXOR]

Nevsky Pyatochek version 2,0

[Losyara]

Why pollute nature?

[Mavrikiy]

The Ukrainian "bridgehead" on the left bank of the Ingulets turned into in "Tir" for Russian troops

We will wait until the bottles and jars in the Armed Forces of Ukraine run out.

[Arkady007]

Some unhealthy victorious reports.
Usually when already, then Wow.

[alexey sidykin]

Where did you find the victory report here? Moreover, here is a description of the author of the article and not a summary of hostilities.

[Diana Ilyina]

Do not stop the whiners from crying, they have such fun. "Lelikuse lost" is their life credo, they are simply not capable of anything else. Try to offer him to go to the military registration and enlistment office, you will not get enough squealing.

[novel66]

Dianochka in my opinion - even just the inability to read. I didn’t notice the winning reports - just a job description

[Diana Ilyina]

Roma I agree completely, our guys are just doing their job and doing it in my opinion well!

[novel66]

is it good or bad - history will tell, the main thing is right, cast iron saves people

[Heaven]

In the spring they wrote about the liberation of Kharkov, Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev.

In the summer about the complete liberation of the DPR

Success in the autumn campaign will be announced that they did not allow the enemy to capture Kherson.

In general, to mice

[Volodin]

Quote from Heaven

In general, to mice

Mariupol, Kherson, Genichesk, Rubizhne, Svetlodarsk, Kremennaya, Svyatogorsk, Berdyansk, Melitopol, Kupyansk, Volchansk, Izyum, Severodonetsk, Popasnaya, Volnovakha, Lysichansk. It's "about mice" for short. For the complete liberation of Odessa, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and further to Lvov - welcome to the military registration and enlistment office, and immediately demonstrate your willingness to work "for big".

[Heaven]

Everything you listed was taken at the first stage of the NWO, when there was no front line. As it appeared from the successes only Lisichansk and Severodonetsk. And then when it was

[Volodin]

Do you want to put a million 1,5 Russian fighters, so that later here in the comments we read from you - "here, they took control of Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov, Kyiv, but staged a meat grinder"? If there are specific proposals for conducting the operation, once again, they are waiting for you at the military registration and enlistment office

[aszzz888]

Volodin (Alexey)
Today, 08: 56
BUT

It looks like they pulled themselves up)) fresh throw-ins "have disappeared!"

[Trapp1st]

If there are specific proposals for conducting the operation, once again, they are waiting for you at the military registration and enlistment office

There are doubts that the military registration and enlistment office are waiting with proposals. ""Think, Vasya, think!" - and Vasya replies: "What is there to think? You need to jump!" "(C)

[Heaven]

Why lay down 1.5 million fighters? The Russian army is many times stronger than the Ukrainian one.

[Volodin]

Quote from Heaven

Why lay down 1.5 million fighters? The Russian army is many times stronger than the Ukrainian one.

He wrote it, and he, apparently, is sitting like that satisfied ... From the bushes ... Exhale already.

[maksbazhin]

At the moment, there is no need to drive forward, now they will prepare, gain strength, train, the brilliant green will subside a little, problems in Europe and Ukraine are better identified and it will be possible to do the same with less losses. Ukraine is not getting stronger, even ten thousand prepared from the UK will not make the weather.
If only they didn't come to Minsk 3.

[Alexander Apraksin]

Do you want to report on the "successes" of the Zhovto-Blakit rabble at the front? The only thing that is available to the "defenders" is to spoil with sabotage ...

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

What summer did you write? What are you talking about? Or are you talking about your coming out prophets who have been talking about a counteroffensive for three months?

[tralflot1832]

I read Khodakovsky about the gray zone. The distance between the opponents creates a certain comfort. There is no way to attack with a front of 10 km, sit and don’t rock the boat.

[Alexander 3]

Their fate will be better if they raise their hands and surrender.

[novel66]

they’re hammering something from art - and there you can’t make out whether it’s with a white flag or with a “jolly roger”

[Petr_Koldunov]

It is very important not to let them dig deep. And then they will burrow underground, and then you won’t exterminate them like cockroaches ...

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

Where there are no enterprises, and simply residential buildings, you won’t dig much. They will bury art faster.

[marc75]

At the current pace of the offensive, it will take 12-14 years to capture the entire territory of Ukraine, maybe it’s better not to write about Tyr

[Cartalon]

Optimistic assessment.

[Emergency]

War is not only offensive, retreat and defense. These are more resources. Will they be enough for Ukroreykha for 12-14 years? Hardly. It's right that they are bombarded with artillery and rockets. There are no fools to run "cavalry" and infantry to the positions of the defenders with cries of "cheers". In this scenario, you won't get lost. There's a war of extinction here. Who gets fat faster? The United States with lackeys or ours. And history shows that in terms of wars, Russia has a solid margin of safety.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Emergency

And history shows that in terms of wars, Russia has a solid margin of safety.

It may seem banal. But Russia is not just a country. Russia is a continent! Everything is . Even tigers and leopards. Animals of course .. Subtropics and subarctic ..

[Trapp1st]

that in terms of wars, Russia has a solid margin of safety.

Something I don’t understand what wars Russia is talking about? Chechnya-Dagestan, permanent Syria, with gangs?

[Emergency]

What about from kindergarten to production? Didn't go to school, didn't study history?

[Trapp1st]

What about from kindergarten to production? Didn't go to school, didn't study history?

Can you elaborate? Enlighten...

[Emergency]

All questions to parents and teachers. Although there is an option, take history books and ... enlighten yourself. I have no talent to teach dropouts.

[Trapp1st]

Although there is an option - take history books

As I understand it, you mean the Ukrainian history books, where Russia fought in World War II (although there was no Russia, there was the USSR), separately from Ukraine and other nonsense. ? What kind of wars did Russia wage? That's right in the entire history of its existence since December 25, 1991, our new, young capitalist miracle state.

[Emergency]

So only Ukrainian textbooks are available to you? Then accept my condolences. Dixi.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Trapp1st

Something I don’t understand what kind of wars Russia is talking about?

Russia will actually be 1500 years old. Fershtein? Chi niht ferstein?

[2 Level Advisor]

well, then Ukraine will be 1500 years old, according to this logic .. after all, it is also part of that Russia that appeared 1500 years ago, like the Russian Federation .. and the same wars were absolutely waged and the tsar was the same and the story is the same, everything is the same was .. or were they not Russia in your opinion?

[Xnumx vis]

level 2 adviser (Nikolai) - "well, then Ukraine will be 1500 years old, according to this logic .. after all, it is also part of that Russia that appeared 1500 years ago, like the Russian Federation .. " ----- Of course it will, only it was not called Ukraine. And it was called Russia, Red Russia, Little Russia, Little Russia, the Great Russian Empire, Ukrainian SSR And yes ..., everything is correct One history, one people, one territory, one destiny, One essentially language, one common culture, one church books, one common faith, one story. General victories and defeats ... Everything is the same except - (the time of independence), and you won’t believe it, but further on it will be one country Greater Russia. I wanted to write Great Russia. But Russia is already a great country.

[Vlodek]

with the current losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Ukrainians will end much earlier

[Terenin]

Quote: marc75

At the current pace of the offensive, it will take 12-14 years to capture the entire territory of Ukraine, maybe it’s better not to write about Tyr

First, our troops are working as best they can, carefully, without haste and unjustified losses.
Secondly, there is no need for Russia to capture anything. Their territories are a huge space, but to free them from the Nazis and Bandera is the calling of the Russians.
Who else will help?

[2 Level Advisor]

if already in Kherson the numbers of the Russian Federation weren’t issued and referendums weren’t prepared everywhere - you would tell the truth .. but you can say honestly - we return, release, seize - it doesn’t matter what you call it, because in the end it leads to an increase in territory .. yes .. also subject to availability

Quote: Terenin

Own territories - a huge space

Let's call a spade a spade..

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Let's call a spade a spade..

It is with its own names ... Novorossia is returning to its native harbor, home ... Enough, have suffered .. down to the throat ....

[Terenin]

Quote: 2 level advisor

if already in Kherson the numbers of the Russian Federation weren’t issued and referendums weren’t prepared everywhere - you would tell the truth .. but you can say honestly - we return, release, seize - it doesn’t matter what you call it, because in the end it leads to an increase in territory .. yes .. also subject to availability

Quote: Terenin

Own territories - a huge space

Let's call a spade a spade..

Again from empty to empty.
Well, what were we to do? They refused to comply with your "Minsk agreements", people in the Donbass were destroyed, fortified areas divided into sectors were built under the leadership of NATO, a dirty nuclear bomb was naturally prepared for Russia ..., the Bandera-Nazi ideology was and is at the level of state policy ... Not enough?
And where the residents of Kherson and other regions of the former Krajina want to see themselves, this is their choice.

[2 Level Advisor]

yes, I'm not talking about the foundations of the NWO, but about actions to increase the territory .. in response to your

Quote: Terenin

Secondly, there is no need for Russia to seize anything. Own territories - a huge space

because if you just liberate, it’s not to include in your composition, but to expel enemies from there - Eastern Europe after the Second World War was not included in your composition? .. I repeat, I’m not saying that this is bad. I'm talking about the facts. and the increase (attachment) of the territory is a fact. So there is a need for it.

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

Yeah. Everything counted, right? Remember the Second World War - the USSR, for three years it liberated its territory. And Europe was liberated for how long?

[Alexander Salenko]

Maybe it was worth the books you needed in childhood, and not only in childhood, to read?

[svp67]

The battles for the bridgehead are very difficult and require both a lot of effort and speed. I almost didn’t have time, gave the enemy the opportunity to come to my senses and gather strength, and that’s all, the bridgehead turns into a “black hole”, which absorbs reserves and stocks. It is now easier for Ukrainians to retreat to their own shore.

[Shark Lover]

They are beaten, beaten, the mobilized die and die, but still go to the troops. It’s just amazing how in 30 years two whole generations of fiercely hating Russians have been raised. Shouts of Ukraine above the mustache are driven into roundels with a mouth for fat at the bottom and two holes for breathing. The homeland, which is only 30 years old, created by the hands of everyone, from the Turkmen to the Yakuts, was plucked from the common large body and fiercely defended no matter what. Here is another non-donation, which I tried for 300 years. But there are very few pure Ukrainians there, I think only Donbass, Lugansk region, Zaporozhye. And they are on our side.

[Nastia makarova]

just try not to go

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

just try not to go

Alas, but there is not only and not so much coercion. There are a lot of people who hate Russia and see it as enemies. And not all Ukrainians see liberators in our troops.
This is how the 8 years we have given at the mercy of Ukraine since 2014 have affected ...

[Nastia makarova]

of course, not only, and the most offensive is that most hated not in the west but in the central regions

[House 25 Sq. 380]

This is how the 8 years we have given at the mercy of Ukraine since 2014 have affected ...

8 years ago, Semen Semenchenko, Filatov, Goncharenko and Lyashko did they complete their detachments in Lviv and Ternopil?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

The detachment can be completed anywhere, a certain percentage of Svidomo was present everywhere. But a change in public opinion has taken place, and it is strongly not in our favor.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

The second Kuchma, Yushchenko, Poroshenko and Zelensky won in general in fairly fair elections, and Yanukovych initiated the European association agreement in general ...

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

The second Kuchma, Yushchenko, Poroshenko and Zelensky won in general in fairly fair elections

Well, taking into account the fact that Yushchenko won, declaring the election result (Yanukovych won) null and arranging a small orange revolution - yes, pretty fair elections :))))

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Yushchenko won the third round....
Illegal tour, but the people supported Yushchenko at the ballot box, but not Yanukovych ...
And before that, people went to the Maidan for Yushchenko, but not for Yanukovych ...
And he didn’t go to the ballot boxes for Yanukovych in the third round ....
These are the facts...
Even if we don't like them...


And these facts must be taken into account in a retrospective analysis ....

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

Yushchenko won the third round....
Illegal tour, but the people supported Yushchenko at the ballot box, but not Yanukovych ...

Maybe so, or maybe there was a juggling in the third round.

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

And before that, people went to the Maidan for Yushchenko, but not for Yanukovych ...

Well, the LPR and the DPR are a pretty serious alternative to the Maidan :))))

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

These are the facts...

Of course. But the facts are also that when resistance began in Slavyansk, there was a lively response in many cities, very, very many were waiting for "polite people" with joy. Right now...

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Maybe so, or maybe there was a juggling in the third round.

Maybe, but the people are for Yanukovych on their Maidan did not go - fact...

But the facts are also that when resistance began in Slavyansk, there was a lively response in many cities, very, very many were waiting for "polite people" with joy. Right now...

And how much - according to your data - from the half-million Slavic-Kramatorsk agglomeration went to the militia?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

Maybe, but the people did not go to their Maidan for Yanukovych - a fact ...

However, the situation was not the same - more people are always ready to vote for a presidential candidate (including a saucepan) than for a president who has already steered. If you look, for Ukraine, the perfect norm is great support during elections and a gradual descent of support and approval to zero by the last third / end of the electoral term

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

And how much - according to your data - from the half-million Slavic-Kramatorsk agglomeration went to the militia?

Let's not get in the way all the same in one "went into the militia" and "rejoiced at the Russian troops."

[House 25 Sq. 380]

However, the situation was not the same - more people are always ready to vote for a presidential candidate (including a saucepan) than for a president who has already steered. If you look, for Ukraine, the perfect norm is great support during elections and a gradual descent of support and approval to zero by the last third / end of the electoral term

Yanukovych went to those elections for the first presidential term - I don’t understand you at all ....

Let's not get in the way in one "went into the militia" and "rejoiced at the Russian troops"

Karegotically disagree!
Otherwise, you can’t tell: either he was happy with the Russian troops, or with Russian pensions ....

As experience has shown, after the occupation of Kherson and Mariupol, everyone there is very happy with the Russian troops - don't you think?

[Alexander Salenko]

Much more, if we have such young people in the Crimea, not many, and now it has faded, but the first one was repulsed. So much more time was spent. but it’s hard for me to blame the Russian Federation, she tried in the Crimea, they didn’t let her work.

[Emergency]

Those who hate Russians do not burn with a special desire to die. Westerners prefer to hate away from the fight. Russians who hate Russians, yes. These are not drowning for Banderva, but for "nenko". Stubborn both from our side and from their side. It's already deep.

[Shark Lover]

Interestingly said, Russians who hate Russians. Didn't think about it. So this is not nationalism then? And what?

[grindz]

Quite nationalism. From the mainly Russian-speaking people of Ukraine, they created a new nation of political Ukrainians and quite successfully, with complete silence, and even indulgence of Russia. Now we have. what we have.

[Shark Lover]

Thank you, that's right, they made Ukrainians out of them. They made hating Russians out of Russians. Goebels did not think of this along the way.

[novel66]

unfortunately - a Russian soldier against a Russian soldier. who was easy with us?

[Alexander Salenko]

And what is it, and what is it called, when Russian Nazis go to fight for Ukrainian Nazis?

[Emergency]

Probably an inferiority complex. They lived under a double-headed eagle, lived under a sickle and a hammer - they were citizens of the empire. The Union collapsed and Usyo-citizens of the provincial quasi-powerful state with all the consequences. They naively believed that Russia was being fed, but it turned out that Russia was feeding them and the "civilized" one. And now shish! They didn't deserve it. And there was a brain rupture.

[Valery V.]

Russians who hate Russians appeared in Ukraine after the collapse of the Union, they were grown by Americans throughout eastern Ukraine. Football ultras in Kharkiv and everywhere hated Russia from birth...

[Shark Lover]

The Nazis and Hitler also turned against the Jews, these (I don’t know what to call people without clan and tribe) Americans went even further. But there are many who question us, too, that the guys there are fighting fascism in an even more perverted form.

[Trapp1st]

but still go to the troops.

Of course, there are those who go, but there are those who were caught at gunpoint on the street.

[Two]

For educational purposes will do! So that the survivors themselves convey to the new arrivals the whole bitter truth about that "bridgehead"!

[aslanxnumx]

Throwing it off is easy, but we are used to from complex to simple. We will hammer for a long time, but why, this is the plan

[alexey sidykin]

Forward to the trenches. They are waiting for you there.

[aslanxnumx]

And why are you not in the trenches. Earn your salary with the promotion of ideas and propaganda Edro

[alexey sidykin]

I would gladly not take it. Besides, it's not me who moans about the operation being too long, it's you. And since you so want everything to end quickly, the very thing is to make a feasible contribution to the common cause. So keep it up.

[Terenin]

The RF Armed Forces inflicted a series of strikes on their positions, which once again significantly reduced the number of the enemy.

Feel free to beat the Bandero-Nazis and do not worry about the number, there were quite a few of them earlier in Kyiv declared for disposal.

[Heaven]

Quote: maksbazhin

now prepare, gain strength, train

Does this only apply to Russian troops or to the Armed Forces of Ukraine too?

Now there is a positional war. Why in this war should one side weaken and the other strengthen? The conditions are the same.

Ukrainian soldiers are not gaining combat experience now? Do not learn how to use NATO-supplied weapons? Why in a year it will be easy to drive them, but now it's hard?

There is a great PMV experience. When neither side could do anything at the front and the one whose economy collapsed first lost.

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

What are you talking about? What experience does the Armed Forces get? And in the end, you're making sense. And what do you think, whose economy will survive? Or do you think that ukrov still have some kind of economy?

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Ukrainian soldiers are not gaining combat experience now? Do not learn how to use NATO-supplied weapons? Why in a year it will be easy to drive them, but now it's hard?

Judging by the waves of mobilization, where the orphans, the frail and the wretched are thrown, the soldiers do not have time to learn and quickly "run out" ....

[Alexander Salenko]

Because you can immediately see what a literate person you are, and you have studied quite a few wars. To be honest, not much, but still studied. Yes, this is a positional war, but with the advancement, like the allies on the Western Front in 1918, how did it end for the Germans?
Where did you see equal conditions? They have superiority in personnel and intelligence, we have superiority in aviation, missile weapons, artillery and armored vehicles. It seems that the RF Armed Forces have more trump cards, therefore, with a smaller number, we and our allies are moving forward.
The missiles still don’t end, our losses in aviation from the recent ones, they shot down a helicopter, isn’t it a lot, but the shells are completely endless, they have accumulated since Soviet times and are now being disposed of in this way, but normally it would result in good money.
What experience does the Ukrainian army get? Again, being under fire? Just like the Armed Forces of Ukraine, what experience did you get after the Minsk agreement? The experience of capturing the gray zone and artillery shelling is perhaps. And with the officer cadres they have a problem at all, you cannot restore the officer corps in 8 years. Some of the experienced officers are kept, like my friend in Odessa, some have been lost, like Colonel Baranyuk, commander of the 36th Marine Brigade. Recently, another colonel was overwhelmed, arrivals at headquarters are regular, and at the house of officers in Vinnitsa. Somehow your analysis frankly lame.

[musorg]

They'll be sailing soon!

[NikolayDS]

Quote: Volodin

Do you want to put a million 1,5 Russian fighters, so that later here in the comments we read from you - "here, they took control of Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov, Kyiv, but staged a meat grinder"? If there are specific proposals for conducting the operation, once again, they are waiting for you at the military registration and enlistment office

Oh, your prayers, so that we have 1,5 million contract soldiers. But we, unfortunately, have only 400 thousand of them.

[sofkar]

Thus, the "bridgehead" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the left bank of the Ingulets managed to turn into a real "shooting gallery" for the Russian troops.

Do I understand correctly that no one is going to liquidate the foothold of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Let him stay on the left bank?

[gromit]

Not later than 2-3 weeks ago right there
flashed news about 1. An unsuccessful attempt by ukrov to create a foothold. 2. About a very clumsy attempt, someone leaked out there, fled somewhere, they say we are cleaning it up. 3. Pathetic Ukrainians have seized several houses on the outskirts of Belogorka, now they are all kirdyk.
4. And today they put a regiment there, we were not going to fight off Belogorka, and in general this is such a cunning plan.
What for is this latest news needed? What for? Cheer up who? Very naive people? So everything is fine with them, hurrah hurray our soldiers are crushing the Nazis.

[Altmann]

In the non-commissioned officer school they learn that after artillery preparation they go on the attack. It is good that we have artillery superiority, but the resulting actions pay off dearly in the production of new artillery shells and missiles. However, the infantryman's foot moves slowly. Well, I'm just an armchair strategist.

[Sergey Kuzmin]

Ukrainian troops that had previously crossed to the southern (left) bank of the Ingulets River, having entered the Kherson region in the north, now found themselves in a virtual trap. We are talking about the so-called Ukrainian "bridgehead", on which the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already suffered losses comparable in number to the regiment.

turned out to be a good trap. Now they need to be completely destroyed there, so that it would not be habitual. And then cut the transport routes connecting Krivoy Rog with Nikolaev and Odessa. And knead the Ukronazis with artillery, rockets and aircraft if they try to unblock these transport routes.