A decision was made to complete the project 20385 corvette "Agile" damaged by fire

Corvette "Agile" project 20385, damaged during a fire in December last year, will be completed at the "Severnaya Verf". This decision was made by a special commission to identify the causes and consequences on the ship, said USC Deputy General Director for Military Shipbuilding Vladimir Korolev.

The main conclusion of the special commission that examined the corvette after the fire is that the corvette will be completed, construction will continue at Severnaya Verf, where the ship was laid down. Nothing has been announced about the timing of the start of work on the ship, as well as other details, preliminary, the restoration and completion of the ship will take several years.

The commission to identify the causes and consequences of a technical accident (...) made the main conclusion: the possibility of completing the ship. We will complete and hand over to the Naval the fleet

- leads TASS the words of the Queen.

Recall that on December 17 last year, a strong fire broke out on the Provorny corvette, located at the Severnaya Verf shipyard. As a result of the incident, the superstructure of the ship was completely destroyed, the hull was not damaged. Later, preliminary dates for the restoration of the ship were named - not earlier than 2026, depending on the damage caused.

In April of this year, information appeared that the Sredne-Nevsky Shipbuilding Plant received an order for the manufacture of a new superstructure for the Provorny corvette and it will be sent to Severnaya Verf already this year.

Corvette "Agile" project 20385 is the second in the series and the first serial after the lead ship "Thundering". Laid down in 2013, technical launching took place in 2019, it was planned to transfer it to the Russian fleet at the end of this year. Now the deadlines for the delivery of the ship have been shifted significantly to the right, in fact, the corvette needs to be built anew.

Comments

[Dimy4]

They stole money - they hid it by fire, beauty. No investigations worthwhile, no punished criminals.

[Romario_Argo]

try from a special account - to a special account. account - with steal
from the beginning they load the docks
then taxes are paid
and only then the payment body
- financial monitoring by the bank and the Federal Tax Service at all stages
- both banks risk license and suspension of operations - faster they will ship you lyuli
- FZ 115, stop list for 10 years - and buns on the kneecaps
- any suspicions - blocking of accounts all the way to trace money
I wish you - Good luck, cut the money from the state defense order (!) - the masks of the show in Altyny (FSB) are provided at your home
By the way, fines reach up to 100%. stole 100 million - paid 200 million

[Wilderness]

And how did they manage to steal from the Vostochny cosmodrome? With such a strict control system?

[Romario_Argo]

Now try (!)
- flag in your hands and a ban on activities and positions for 10 years
- confiscation of property - then you will live under the Crimean bridge

[ALARI]

You told the actions of the authorities WHEN you already stole. And there is something in the arsenal so that there are no such excesses as theft. Every month we show how the state is stolen from the budget. And in the majority they are responsible for such cases, well, at most a hired director, but who raped the gesheft dry. Who will plant him, he is a monument.

[Romario_Argo]

everyone is responsible and the director and owners and shadow owners - all benefit recipients - with all their property - resold transferred - all transactions are canceled
+ 100% penalties

[ALARI]

That they answer well (if they get caught), but all this means that the business for which the money was allocated (and they were stolen) has stopped and has not been done, or even more money is required. Judging by the fact that theft does not stop, all these 100-200 percent are ineffective.

[Romario_Argo]

You did not understand,
it is not realistic to withdraw money from special accounts under the state defense order
and without money - and the consequences have already come (!) - behind closed doors
that’s why everyone is silent - they don’t want to get 25 years in total for disclosure
Try it - then tell us

[ALARI]

But not performing work under the state defense order and at the same time receiving a salary and bonuses is not theft. Money spent (meaning withdrawn) and the work is not done, give me more. In this case, there is no punishment. Now, smartly, fools are taken out, no - grab and run, they got out.

[Romario_Argo]

salaries, yes - but fixed according to the requirements of the Federal Tax Service
from salaries from the beginning they pay 43,2% of taxes to the budget and only then they charge for salary projects from 100 thousand 43200 rubles. taxes
but according to the estimate, the way out of the estimate is the bank and the Federal Tax Service not will miss
nothing else - according to the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, people do not work for free
there is a minimum wage there is a minimum wage, there are industry-specific wage rates
Stop dreaming about bullshit

[ALARI]

I'm not talking about the salaries of workers and engineers, they work out their own, now you're right they don't pay for smoke breaks - capitalism. I'm talking about the leaders here they get everything and so much more, regardless of the results. While I see that the state is dumping crazy amounts from the budget and the output is zilch, (an example is the reconstruction of the dock for Kuznetsov, the first one who did this just stole the money without doing anything - this is about the effectiveness of control for a year it happened) you won’t convince me that everything is going well and according to plan.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Romario_Argo

You did not understand,
it is not realistic to withdraw money from special accounts under the state defense order
and without money - and the consequences have already come (!) - behind closed doors
that’s why everyone is silent - they don’t want to get 25 years in total for disclosure
Try it - then tell us

The money is withdrawn at the expense of repeatedly inflated prices for those materials and services and WBCs that are used in the internal production activities of the enterprise.
And that's where the theft comes from.
When cutters for machine tools are bought ten times more expensive, the machines themselves are three times more expensive, when computers are ten times more expensive, and so on.
All this "supposedly" increases the cost of the product for the State Defense Order many times over.
And due to the fact that there are no alternative suppliers in the State Defense Order, all auctions are always held at the maximum price and from a single supplier.
Accordingly, there is nothing cheap in our military-industrial complex now in principle.
There is a business rule that few people have heard of: "profit is formed at the entrance."
Only in our case with the state defense order and the military-industrial complex, profits are kickbacks for management, and not for the enterprise

[Romario_Argo]

Money is withdrawn due to the repeatedly inflated prices for those materials and services

try (!!!)
The Federal Tax Service sees all supplier prices for other state defense orders
there is an automated control system ASK
flag in hand (!!!) - try - tell

[Dimy4]

Don't try guys, idealists are hovering somewhere in the world of illusions and you can't convince them, it's useless. As long as they, as they say, a roasted rooster does not peck in one place, but then it will be too late.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Dimy4

Don't try guys, idealists are hovering somewhere in the world of illusions and you can't convince them, it's useless. As long as they, as they say, a roasted rooster does not peck in one place, but then it will be too late.

This idealist, 8 months ago, wrote in his messages how the KR Moscow would engage in battle against all 6 US fleets and their NATO escorts, and destroy them all with one salvo!
The opuses of RomarioAgro are fun to read in retrospect. Such a visionary.

[Osipov9391]

And the situation with aviation watches for half a million rubles a piece from one Moscow manufacturer is this from the same opera?

[Captain45]

Quote: ALARI

And there is something in the arsenal so that there are no such excesses as theft.

IS! There are no people and there is no one to steal. As long as there are people, they have an inescapable desire to live better, some work tirelessly for this, while others steal. And as long as people exist, this system or concept, scheme, whatever you want to call it, will exist. In the USSR, according to 93-1, there was an execution for the theft of state property, in China they still shoot at stadiums, but they steal as they steal, because a person is weak.

[ALARI]

That is, you openly say that you will steal because it is in the blood of people? Tin.

[Captain45]

Quote: ALARI

That is, you openly say that you will steal because it is in the blood of people? Tin.

Well, if your parents didn’t bring you up in the spirit that you shouldn’t take someone else’s, you weren’t instilled with respect for the law that prohibits stealing, you don’t have any idea for which you despise material wealth, then it’s possible that in one not perfect day, distributing financial flows, you decide that sitting by the stream and not getting drunk, you have to be a complete doo **** and confuse state wool with personal. That's what I'm talking about. Here I have a prohibition inside me that you can’t take someone else’s. And you?

[ALARI]

Me too, and that's why I answered it. People are different and I would not say that everyone has a desire to live at the expense of the other.

[ramzay21]

try from a special account - to a special account. account - with steal

But something with the Barrier radar does not work. It costs like half a corvette, but still cannot shoot down missiles, while, as it turned out, it burns so that little remains of the corvette, and this is without anti-ship missiles hitting it! At the same time, a ready-made radar could be put on the corvette, with a cost ten times lower, which can shoot down missiles and does not burn like a Barrier radar.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

What are your assertions based on? What makes you think that the Zaslon radar does not work, but another radar, which is dozens of times cheaper and does not burn and shoots down all the missiles?

[Sergey3]

Why are you so nervous? This is a victim of the information war, unable to distinguish the wheat from the chaff. I noticed since yesterday that every article in Yandex, like already verified authors who did nothing like that, contains an active insert in the center of the article, the so-called fighters against the regime. You click on it and it immediately takes you to the site with bribes, dachas, palaces, yachts, in general, your favorite topic will be piled up. And so each article contains such an insert. A complaint to Yandex did not give anything, no reaction (they used to react). It's time for the state to tighten the Russian branch of Yandex. People who do not have the ability to analyze information and a critical approach to it will fall on the hook, it will be extremely difficult to re-educate them!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

They stole money - they hid it by fire, beauty. No investigations worthwhile, no punished criminals.

You can steal in a warehouse, but here a ship, a factory will receive money for it only after this ship is accepted by a commission from the Moscow Region, and until that moment it was slept at least 10 times and built again, but you will receive only for one ship that you hand over.

[musorg]

Report who leaked the info to you!

[Mavrikiy]

A decision was made to complete the project 20385 corvette "Agile" damaged by fire

We will finish building, do not fight on it. And to spit speks, but to drive the Baltic sprat will do. Do not let them go to the Pacific Fleet and the Northern Fleet, definitely!

[crossbill]

So it is being built for the Pacific Fleet .....

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Crossbill

So it is being built for the Pacific Fleet .....

I know, don't let it go. Send another one there. And this one with material that has been on vacation, in greenhouse conditions. WIKI:

It will be part of the 114th brigade of ships for the protection of the water area (Ilyichev Bay) of the Kamchatka flotilla of diverse forces of the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Navy, based in the city of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky.

[crossbill]

Oh, if only it were different...

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Crossbill

Oh, if only it were different...

No, it will.

[crossbill]

Ships in Kamchatka were needed yesterday .. In the meantime, I haven’t heard anything about plans to lay new 20385 (except those contracted for NEA)

[Fedor Sokolov]

And someone bore responsibility for the destruction of property, or burn a flaw, the budget will endure everything, it’s rubber in our country.

[Romario_Argo]

the entire state defense order is insured by the state
- such a strange concept, yes (?) (!)
The Central Bank also prints money for itself through the State Sign - which banks buy

[yuriy55]

The main conclusion of the special commission that examined the corvette after the fire is that the corvette will be completed, construction will continue at Severnaya Verf, where the ship was laid down.

I suppose that the majority of users are not interested in this conclusion, but in the conclusion based on the causes of the fire, the guilty persons identified and the liability for the superstructure destroyed by the fire. Suspiciously, fires began to occur at facilities where the deadlines for delivery (start-up, commissioning) shifted to the right for no reason.

[Botanologist]

the reasons were named immediately - violation of safety standards when painting the hull.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: yuriy55

Fires are suspiciously frequent.

Not often. It's just that in Soviet times such emergencies were not covered in the media and were immediately classified if they were not resonant. He himself was present at fires on ships in the backwaters. There are different times in life.

[ermak124.0]

You read about terms, dates... I want to cry. Laid down in 2013!!!! And what about the UDC corps in the Gulf? More than 2 years have passed. Where are they? USC are complete impotents.

[Romario_Argo]

And what about the UDC corps in the Gulf?

I will just laugh
when it turns out that this is not 2 UDC - but 1 TAVKR pr. 11430 Manatee

[tralflot1832]

The project has changed, while it doesn’t pull on an aircraft carrier, but the superstructure ?!

[Romario_Argo]

it is possible to lengthen the hull with such a width by 100 meters + it can be seen on the layout that it is possible to increase the width of the deck - up to the takeoff diagonal
and the setting was taken from the minesweeper Alexandrite - and increased - it's all props
under construction TAVKR

[ramzay21]

Until black funnels come for saboteurs and pests, the bordak will continue

[crossbill]

in 2024 they promise to hand over ...

[UAZ 452]

To promise is not to marry.

[tralflot1832]

Obviously, the sailors will come up with a second name for him, over time.

[crossbill]

So they already came up with - "Stolen"

[RaccoonSnake]

Severnaya Verf continues to set records for long-term construction. NEA, who was in a coma, is already building ships much faster.

[iouris]

So this is the North. And how much is just one subway ride? That's it.

[iouris]

"The economy must be economical" (!) Especially in our troubled times.

[Alexey RA]

The commission to identify the causes and consequences of a technical accident (...) made the main conclusion: the possibility of completing the ship. Completed and handed over to the Navy

I immediately remembered the EM "Kessin", "Downs" and "Shaw" that immediately burned down in Pearl Harbor.
The Yankees then did everything so that the ships were considered simply damaged and repaired, and not destroyed. For "Kassin" and "Downs" in general, new buildings were built.

[Osipov9391]

The fire was strong and the metal of the ship's hull must have lost its properties.
This ship at sea will be broken in half by the first storm.