Ukrainian minister: It is necessary that pensions in the country be increased with the help of patrons' funds

The Kyiv regime has developed a formula for the "welfare" of Ukrainian pensioners. It was voiced by Oksana Zholnovich, who is in the position of Minister (or, as it is now customary to say in Ukraine, “Minister”) of social policy.

According to her, the Ministry of Social Affairs will increase pensions for Ukrainian pensioners... but not itself.

Zholnovich offers wealthy Ukrainians to support Ukrainian pensioners with hryvnia. According to the Ukrainian minister, this will be regarded by the state as "philanthropy."

The minister said that the department is making a proposal to people who are ready to provide financial support to pensioners with modest pensions. Such people, according to Zholnovich, “could take patronage over a specific pensioner and pay him a certain amount of money.”

In all this formula, at least one thing is not clear: what role is the Ministry of Social Policy itself going to play in this process? After all, if a particular citizen of Ukraine decides to support a low-income fellow citizen, then he will do this without Zholnovich's statement.

It should be noted that by the end of 2021, about 11 million pensioners officially resided in Ukraine. Of these, those who have a pension above 10 thousand hryvnia, only 3 percent. It turns out that it remains for Ms. Zholnovich to find millions of "philanthropists" in order to provide for millions of needy pensioners - and the problem has been solved, as it were, at the state level.

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[neworange88]

Ukrainian minister: It is necessary that pensions in the country be increased with the help of patrons' funds

Lend-lease for pensioners? Otherwise, Kolomoisky and Akhmetov will become impoverished and flee the country.

[Myths]

Not just the great authorities sent all pensioners for pensions to the Alegarchs. The rest of the loot was cut a long time ago and divided into pockets. Who from the herd will now grunt there, about democracy and a decent life?!

[Tatyana]

Ukrainian minister: It is necessary that pensions in the country be increased with the help of patrons' funds

The Minister of Social Policy of Ukraine sits in the sky on the clouds and from there she just dangled her legs to the ground!
This person either does not really understand what is happening in Ukraine! Either she decided to oppose the oligarchic system for the sake of self-promotion!
But who in Ukraine will allow her to do this, when all of Ukraine is in debt, like in silk and yeshe and with might and main is sold to Zelensky ?!
For this, in principle, they can kill her so that she does not interfere with her proposals under the feet of the oligarchs.

[withoutreverse]

what are they smoking? what are they drinking?

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote: withoutreverse

what are they smoking? what are they drinking?

They do not smoke or drink, they only sniff white in both nostrils.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from: neworange88

Lend-Lease for pensioners?

Interesting, thoughtful.
Like if you ate to the detriment of the enemy, you were forgiven,
if you have bitten but not eaten, restore and return.
if sour, - compensate for the cost with interest?

[ycuce234-san]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

if you have bitten but not eaten, restore and return.

Pacemakers are removed from the bodies of the dead, I don’t know if they are reused. Yes, and you can’t cremate with them - there is tritium.
In principle, restoring and reusing a fleet of all sorts of high-tech life-sustaining implants is a sound idea. Well, they are very expensive and therefore difficult to access and scarce, and, unlike organs, they do not have problems with survival. Yes, even a banal robotic prosthesis arm will surprise you very unpleasantly with the cost - it actually costs like an industrial welding robot.
The steel in which the Terminator dissolved would have to be buried.

[78bor1973]

These "patrons" will hang themselves for a penny.

[gansales]

All sorts of nonsense is being carried in Kyiv .. Here the country lies on its side and how the state will soon disappear, just from such "philanthropists" ..

[bouncyhunter]

Quote from gansales

All nonsense is carried in Kyiv

Otherwise, they can't.

Quote from gansales

the country lies on its side and how the state will soon disappear, just from such "philanthropists"

You might think that someone cares? I mean there.

[dmi.pris1]

Pash, good evening. In general, the statements of irresponsible persons in Ukraine are not bewildering. This is another planet.

[Novosibirsk]

Yes, apparently not so soon

[4ekist]

.... to increase pensions in the country with the help of patrons

She forgot to announce the list of such sponsors.

[Starover_Z]

Zholnovich offers wealthy Ukrainians to support Ukrainian pensioners with hryvnia. According to the Ukrainian minister, this will be regarded by the state as "philanthropy."

We heard, we remember -
SALVATION OF THE DROWNING, THE WORK OF THE HANDS THEM THAT DROWNING!

[Cananecat]

Quote: Starover_Z

SALVATION OF THE DROWNING, THE WORK OF THE HANDS THEM THAT DROWNING!

Wangyu that a talk show will soon appear, where pennies will in every possible way beg for an increase from representatives of the oligarchy.

[Fisherman]

yes, they already practically support the army and the state apparatus at the expense of freshly printed hryvnia and stamped bucks ... the economy is gone! There are practically no pensions ....

[Paul Siebert]

Quote from gansales

All sorts of nonsense is being carried in Kyiv .. Here the country lies on its side and how the state will soon disappear, just from such "philanthropists" ..

[-ш-]

Tipo who stole that and pays?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: -sh-

Tipo who stole that and pays?

This is summed up that theft is not for self-interest, but only out of concern for the destitute / robbed.

[Leshak]

It is necessary to go greener to the west - why don’t they pay pensions to dill-breeders !? Not in order! Obliged to pay! Otherwise, they will be considered pro-Putin countries.

[Egoza]

Quote: Leshak

It is necessary to go greener to the west - why don’t they pay pensions to dill-breeders !? Not in order! Obliged to pay! Otherwise, they will be considered pro-Putin countries.

So already! Recently, he had a tantrum that Europe promised 8 lard, but delays. So after all, not only pensioners, but also warriors will have nothing to pay. All of a sudden, these irresponsible old men will go to Bankova Street to demand a pension!
Py.Sy. Zelya there Kolomoisky and Korban deprived of citizenship, it seems, now he is getting close to Klitschko, also to deprive him of citizenship. And, since there is no citizenship, can the money be confiscated?

[Leshak]

Quote: Egoza

Py.Sy. Zelya there Kolomoisky and Korban deprived of citizenship, it seems, now he is getting close to Klitschko, also to deprive him of citizenship. And, since there is no citizenship, can the money be confiscated?

"Napoleon" raged?

[Ryaruav]

a very dangerous statement, otherwise how will our government throw such a cry and different Usmanovs there, the heroes of labor, the Rotenbergs, how they will begin to patronize, this is where I, a working pensioner with a pension of 11400, will get away from the wild money that fell on me (the devil woke up in the most interesting place)

[Novosibirsk]

Usmanov gave money for the cinema to Konchalovsky)

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Novosibirsk

Usmanov gave money for the cinema to Konchalovsky)

Did Konchalovsky himself become poorer or what?

[Novosibirsk]

There is no such money.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Novosibirsk

There is no such money.

I guess he just hid it and builds a half-beggar. For the Migalkin family films rarely pay off. I would take it from my wife.

[Novosibirsk]

And he told him so: the film will not pay off

[Mordvin 3]

Well, that means money down the drain. If the Migalkins had lived in the west, they would have been stripped to their shorts long ago.

[Novosibirsk]

This is patronage

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Novosibirsk

This is patronage

I understand helping the poor, not the husband of a lady who owns a couple of restaurants and something else. And this guy himself owes the bank 130 million bucks. This artist has good appetites.

[Novosibirsk]

Oh, people write off 1.5 billion

[Novosibirsk]

Better look at what is being filmed today and driven around the box. But there is government money

[dmi.pris1]

A small example in the Krasnodar Territory. We have a Galitsky philanthropist. He built a lot of good things. The stadium, the park, the long-term construction of the Aurora is going to ... But it looks like everything now. Covered the children's football schools of FC Krasnodar.

[Sibguest]

The philanthropist (historical figure) would probably choke on saliva from indignation - having heard the delirium of this stupid dill.

[mad big]

The grass is green in those parts.

[cat Rusich]

Quote from mad big

The grass is green in those parts.

It's just that they began to "smoke weed" more often and more at a time ...

[Kesha1980]

Abramovich promised to donate the proceeds from the sale of Chelsea to a charity fund in Ukraine - and that's it. Or did he give Ukraine weapons?

[Chronos]

Quote: Kesha1980

Abramovich promised to donate the proceeds from the sale of Chelsea to a charity fund in Ukraine - and that's it. Or did he give Ukraine weapons?

Most likely he will scroll and take it for himself. On the part of Abramovich, this is the same "goodwill gesture" as the withdrawal of our troops from Kyiv. Shaggy Boris imposed sanctions on Chelsea and only allowed him to be sold on the condition that all the money be transferred to dill.

[Kesha1980]

Already sold - the money went directly to an English charitable foundation. Already over a month ago. If only LDNR poured a little - where there.

[Chronos]

The most important thing is where and how much money will go from the English charitable foundation

[Kesha1980]

Welcome amount - up to 3 billion. Where? - to the fund "For Ukraine" (something like this). That's enough

[Chronos]

There is an opinion that, apart from the name of the fund, this money will not connect anything with Ukraine. Abramovich is not very happy to give away a club in which so much has been invested.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Kesha1980

Already sold - the money went directly to an English charitable foundation. Already over a month ago. If only LDNR poured a little - where there.

So at the right time to declare an accomplice of terrorists with all the consequences.

[GO-TO-GO-TO-GO]

Of course, after the 2018 World Cup, now I’m going to retire like a copper kettle, I hope I’ll live. But still, the question gnaws: why in the media, and in particular on VO, only our neighbors (absolutely everyone around the globe) designate the current everyday problems and do not see our "relatives sitting in the liver" problems? Let's replace the words Ukraine with Russia in this news. And look in the mirror.

[Stas157]

Quote: GO-TO-GO-TO-GO

why in the media, and in particular in VO, they refer to current household only problems of our neighbors (absolutely everyone around the globe) and do not see our "relatives sitting in the liver" problems?

They try their best to paint a picture that against the backdrop of a glaring nightmare around, our own hell is not so terrible.

[your1970]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: GO-TO-GO-TO-GO

why in the media, and in particular in VO, they refer to current household only problems of our neighbors (absolutely everyone around the globe) and do not see our "relatives sitting in the liver" problems?

They try their best to paint a picture that against the backdrop of a glaring nightmare around, our own hell is not so terrible.

How much was the pension of a Soviet 60 ruble salary cleaner / nanny / janitor / postman?

[ZoV]

In short, they are throwing pensioners .. Survive as you like, and they themselves are sawing Amer’s help

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from ZOV

In short, they are throwing pensioners .. Survive as you like, and they themselves are sawing Amer’s help

And now it’s the same with us: someone is thrown, someone is sawing.

[sheet]

It is necessary that pensions in the country be increased with the help of patrons' funds

Well, it depends on whose pensions

[Corrosion inhibitor]

This was supposed to be printed on a Friday night...

[iouris]

It's true. But it is more important that pensions are simply paid.

[Eug]

It is necessary to look at the law on public-private partnership, it contains "buns" for patrons participating in state social programs. And the state represented by the "minister" is going to implement this law. Something like this...

[nnm]

Nothing really to see...
11 million people + 1 UAH per month = 11 million UAH per month + UAH 100 per month + UAH 1 million per month (!!!). Well, and so on. And you have to pay conditionally, constantly. Therefore, the amount will be simply cosmic. And what can the state give to such "philanthropists"? Tax incentives - then what's the point? Taxes as well as subsidies to the pension fund can be transferred. State contracts equals corruption, less taxes, etc. State support, soft loans are again all a diversion of budgetary funds, which are exactly the same and directly fashionable to send to pensions (and in Ukrainian reality, to steal).
Those. in this version, there is absolutely no point in this proposal, except how to give "your" oligarchs even more budgetary support for theft and division of money, while also portraying them as incredible benefactors.

[rocket757]

Ukrainian minister: It is necessary that pensions in the country be increased with the help of patrons' funds

. A minister, she is also a minister in the geyrop ... she has no brain at all! And why is he needed at all?

[cat Rusich]

The next in the care of "patrons" will be transferred teachers, doctors...
So the rest of Ukraine will be transferred to the care of "philanthropists"

[evgen1221]

Somewhere it was already like this, but, the slave-owning system, they were also in charge there

[Carlos Hall]

Communism returns in a Christian version?

[Ural_engineer]

How much does Zelensky say in his accounts? Why not a patron?

[7 poplar]

in general, as in Germany and everywhere else. The government cannot do anything, but only shifts the costs to its citizens ..... you don’t need a lot of mind here.

[GNM]

... The Kyiv regime has developed a formula for the "well-being" of Ukrainian pensioners...

It was possible not to reinvent the wheel:

[Arabfun]

so we still have to teach him how to govern the country?!

[Raven 95]

In all this formula, at least one thing is unclear: what role is the Ministry of Social Policy itself going to play in this process?

What a question?
Naturally, a philanthropist does not personally give cash to a pensioner.
Naturally, the philanthropist transfers money to the Fund's account.
Naturally, the pensioner will get something later. Probably.

[RoTTor]

All power there has long been seized by thieving profane, who have only two requirements - Russophobia and Lviv origin / education / worldview.
So "Ukrainian minister" has long been a rude curse

[kig]

Actually, it's a good idea. Our oligarchs could also participate by deducting interest to the FIU. True, they will immediately find a loophole and turn into beggars - so that they themselves will be just right to pay extra.

[evgen1221]

Brilliant. And the increase in the wages of workers should ensure the contributions of workers to the wage increase fund.

[Uprun]

Why all this fuss, EU citizens, thanks to their rulers, have long voluntarily supported pensioners from the outskirts at the expense of financial handouts. Like it, don't like it, be patient my beauty ....

[SklochPensioner]

"Officially" 11 million. That is, every third resident is a pensioner. Do you feel the scale of theft?