"Dirty water"

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The economic ring around Iran continues to shrink. Recently, the European Union adopted another (already 19) package of sanctions against Tehran. As is known, the representatives of the European Union in the summer refused to buy crude Iranian oil, which dealt a rather significant blow to the financial system of the Islamic Republic. Now the Europeans, who are trying in every way to impose a cessation of nuclear research on Iran, decided to go even further and refused to buy Iranian gas, banned Iran from selling oil and gas equipment, metals and alloys, and also instructed insurance companies to refuse to insure Iranian short-term loans.

There is information that these sanctions are ready to support Turkey, which, although geographically and does not apply to the European Union, is trying with all its might to please the West, which is expressed, inter alia, in its excessive attention to the Syrian problem.

"Dirty water"
The commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), Mohammad Ali Jafari, is planning an environmental catastrophe in the Strait of Hormuz to temporarily lift international sanctions against Iran


By such measures, Brussels makes it clear to Tehran that even its rapid reorientation to the markets of Southeast Asia will not give an opportunity to overcome the severe economic crisis that has hit Iran over the past year.

The first crisis hit, which economic experts attributed precisely to the announcement and real manifestations of European sanctions against Iran, fell as early as the beginning of this year, when the national currency of the Islamic Republic began to sink against the US dollar and euro. In general, it would be difficult to imagine the independence of the fall of the Iranian currency from the activities of the financial systems of the West. Outwardly, everything looks extremely transparent and is described by economic laws: they say Iran was shackled in sanctions, the economy began to agonize, since the main raw material - Iranian oil - could not flow into European markets, and therefore the Iranian rial began to fall. However, with all due respect to modern economic laws, we must understand that any ups and downs of one or another world currency are primarily not associated with objective laws in the world of markets, but with the banal speculations of those who can push through any financial transactions. own position. After all, the rate of rial began to fall even before the Europeans completely refused to supply oil from Iran. Moreover, the rate of Iranian currency significantly subsided even when Iran entered into partnership agreements on the sale of additional volumes of crude oil to China. This state of affairs clearly indicates that the main reason for the fall of the Iranian economy is not at all in real combinations of hydrocarbon sales with their production, and certainly not in Iran’s problems with short-term and long-term insurance, but in financial manipulations, which able to change the situation in a given economy of the world without any external sanctions.

Obviously, Iran today is falling prey to a provoked financial boycott by the West, which is expressed, among other things, in the fall of the national currency. In particular, the Iranian rial today is simply impossible to exchange for a dollar or euro at the official rate. Now “black” exchangers are working, which set the exchange rate at the level of 35,5-36 thousand rials for 1 dollar. At the beginning of the year, the US dollar was worth about 20000 rials on the same “black” market, and in October 2011 its unofficial weighted average cost was determined at the level of 11-12 thousand rials. It turns out that in just a year, the Iranian currency rate fell simply catastrophically: the official value is more than 80%, but the unofficial value is 3 times.

It is obvious that the fall after the next sanctions package will only worsen, and therefore in Iran by the end of the year the crisis may lead to a total complication of the economic situation. Due to the fact that Iran’s banking sector is forced to work practically in isolation, so that financial flows are not stopped by the United States or the European Union, the Iranian authorities, headed by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, simply cannot fully meet their social obligations. This leads to the fact that in Iranian society there is growing discontent with the policies of the current authorities, which frankly plays into the hands of the West. Even those who yesterday declared their indispensable support for the policies of the current Iranian president are increasingly criticizing his inability to actively resist the West. But the West, as you know, can skillfully use even a small, but certainly a powerful handful of disgruntled Iranian authorities in order to announce the need to launch an invasion in order to defend democratic principles ...

Apparently, seeking the last reserves for non-military confrontation with the West, Iran is taking such a step as announcing its readiness to arrange an environmental catastrophe in the Strait of Hormuz, unless the EU and the US stop strangling Tehran with endless sanctions. In particular, the possibility of smashing one of the oil tankers on the rocks of the Strait of Hormuz was announced by the Commander of the IRGC (Islamic Revolution Guards Corps) Mohammad Ali Jafari. After the tanker loaded with oil will be directed to the rocks, all the oil can cover the waters of the strait and block the way for the ships that go through the strait. Such a move, according to Jafari, will be aimed primarily at the Gulf States, supplying crude oil to the United States and Europe by tankers, while supporting sanctions against Iran. A peculiar demarche in the style of "so do not you get to anyone" ...

Obviously, when the Iranians declared that they were ready to block the Strait of Hormuz, the same Americans believed that we were talking about using the Iranian fleet, which Washington promised to cope quickly enough. But if it is really about filling the water area of ​​the Gulf of Hormuz, then the strategy and tactics of possible military operations against Iran will have to be changed. Not only will tankers with vital fuel for Europe and the United States not be able to pass through the Strait of Hormuz, but American aircraft carriers that obviously did not perform “democratic” operations, cruising not over water but over huge oil spots, will have to tight ...

The environmental catastrophe that Iran can arrange at sea may well become a real dead end for the US and NATO naval units, which have recently been relied upon in the event of a possible launch of an operation to “force Iran to close its nuclear program.” In such a situation, the same Americans will literally have to carry every Iranian tanker, which the Iranians themselves can at any moment sink to the bottom in order to realize the “Dirty Water” plan.

If the oil is deliberately spilled, then even the very fact of a possible military attack on Iran will soon become doubtful. After all, the West will obviously not attack Iran at a time when oil tankers from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar cannot reach the coast of the United States and Europe. It is necessary first to carry out the cleaning, so that their countries are not left without fuel, and this in itself can be considered humiliation for the West.

In general, it can be stated that Iran is still responding as best it can, and it must be recognized that a possible Iranian response is clearly capable of spoiling the blood of supporters of a speedy strike on the Islamic Republic.
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  1. +6
    17 October 2012 08: 27
    It can be summed up with a phrase from the wonderful movie "Only old men go to battle": "YOU WANT TO LIVE, BE ABLE TO LIVE!"
    1. beech
      +5
      17 October 2012 14: 50
      assimilation answer. We would also do well to wrap the Europe screw !!! Just a little - we are aggressors, savages ... in general, they wipe our feet. Leave gas and oil current to the Fritz, Belarusians and Ukrainians !!
      1. +1
        17 October 2012 20: 28
        Now Europeans ... have refused to purchase Iranian gas, have banned the sale of oil and gas equipment, metals and alloys to Iran,

        Here zhezh idiots eh? Now Iran can sell ALL of its gas to China, which needs it very much, and Iran can now buy equipment, metals and alloys only from us, okay?
  2. Ilyukha
    +3
    17 October 2012 08: 28
    Something I did not understand. How does oil flowing out of a broken tanker block the movement of ships in the strait?
    Why are they sticking to her?
    A, clear! A terrible Iranian inhuman regime against ecology on the planet!
    The message is clear. A duck for the western man in the street))
    1. 0
      17 October 2012 15: 11
      Quote: Ilyukha
      How will oil flowing out of a wrecked tanker block the movement of ships in the strait?

      if you correctly calculate the oil discharge point, then you can block the ports of neighboring countries, and for quite a long time angry
      "... And the Iranians
      They took matches,
      We went to the sea blue,
      The blue was lit by the blue.

      The sea is burning with flames,
      A whale ran out of the sea (Sixth Fleet):
      "Hey firemen, run!
      Help, help! ... " wassat


      to fit a tanker carrying something like a termite charge, set fire to and blow up a tanker - BOOM !!! fellow
    2. bobon_
      +8
      17 October 2012 16: 12
      The cooling systems of the main engine or diesel generators will be disabled. Everything is cooled by sea water - imagine that all oil and water coolers are clogged with oil - they are coated ... just overheating of the power plants with all the consequences ...
      1. 0
        17 October 2012 16: 23
        Yes sir! drinks forgot feel
        1. +2
          17 October 2012 18: 03
          Military expert Alexey Vashchenko noted:

          - The Iranian army is quite combat-ready, and, most importantly, fanatically devoted to its leadership, and there is also a “Corps of Guardians of the Islamic Revolution." The Iranians have shown what they are capable of, fighting now in Syria. They help Bashar al-Assad, knocking out fighters from Aleppo, Homs and the suburbs of Damascus. Iranian special forces are fighting well there.

          Then: the Persian Gulf, where the Americans are going to put the ships, is very narrow and just falls under the "dagger" fire of Iran. Most importantly, they have enough power, and these carrier groups are quite vulnerable.

          A system has been created in Iran that allows attacking other countries, the same Qatar, and the same Kuwait, where American bases are located. In addition, the Iranians created a network throughout Europe and the United States that if they suddenly attack, this network will simply begin to blow up all of Europe and the United States. And the Americans are well aware of this. Iran turned out to be a tough nut.

          PS: Iran has created a new sea-based cruise missile "Kadir", and in the near future it will be presented to the public. This was announced by Deputy Minister of Defense of the country Brigadier General Mehdi Farahi, reports "Interfax".
          Farahi noted:
          - Our missiles Zafar, Nasr, Nur, Kader and the new cruise missile Kadir can be launched from ships at speeds above 30 knots. fellow
      2. 0
        17 October 2012 20: 29
        Quote: bobon_
        The cooling systems of the main engine or diesel generators will be disabled. Everything is cooled by overboard water - imagine that all oil and water coolers are clogged with oil - are oiled .... just overheating of the power plants with all the consequences


        Yes, simply no captain will even swim inside the oil slick.
      3. Captain Vrungel
        +2
        17 October 2012 22: 34
        Onboard or bottom Kingston can be filled with oil if you are walking through an oil storage. A terrible oil slick turning into an oil film and covering vast areas of a water mirror. This is an environmental disaster. 1g oil covers the area with a film of up to 10 square meters. meters. The capacity of Iranian tankers is up to 100.000 tons or more. It is scary to imagine the area of ​​the water covered by this film. This is a violation of sea evaporation and air cooling, a climatic collapse for this region. The death of birds, plankton, marine mammals. High temperatures in this area will cause the evaporation of petroleum products, which is not safe for all living things and ICE as well. Coast pollution. And do not throw the tanker onto the rocks (it is not possible to damage the length of all tanks on the double sides and double bottom), but to open the neck of the tanks for oil to escape and flood the tanker is a disaster. This cannot be allowed. Think international gendarmes of western democracy.
    3. 0
      18 October 2012 16: 49
      Firstly, oil is burning, and secondly, which tanker will go even on non-burning oil, if you set it on fire, it’s quick, and thirdly, all the countries of the Persian Gulf receive water from desalination plants on the coast of the Persian Gulf. In 1973 After the Arab oil embargo, queues in Europe and the United States for gas stations reached many kilometers. Production fell. In Canada, engineers stood along the roads with signs "working for food." So this is not just a duck for the Western layman.
  3. +3
    17 October 2012 08: 31
    in war all methods are good
    1. +1
      17 October 2012 20: 50
      a beast cornered is very aggressive, dangerous and capable of much angry
    2. Lucky
      0
      18 October 2012 13: 02
      War is garbage, the main maneuver)))
  4. +3
    17 October 2012 08: 40
    what the hell is that? show that in Iran at the helm an inadequate cannibal? if the strait is contaminated, then with fuel from broken western military vessels
  5. -10
    17 October 2012 08: 43
    who are doing their best to force Iran to stop nuclear research,

    Come on? And where is it written?
    Iran is demanded not to enrich uranium to the military level (sanctions on the Bushehr nuclear power plant do not stutter at all) and to make its nuclear "research" transparent (which, of course, are exclusively peaceful - therefore, enrichment takes place in deeply hidden bunkers).

    But if we are really talking about filling the water area of ​​the Gulf of Hormuz, then the strategy and tactics of possible military operations against Iran will have to be changed. Not only will tankers with vital fuel for Europe and the United States not be able to pass through the Strait of Hormuz, but American aircraft carriers that obviously did not perform “democratic” operations, cruising not over water but over huge oil spills, will have to tight ...

    Well, they will flood the gulf or the strait with oil. And the aircraft carrier will not pass because he is afraid to get dirty?
    1. Uncle Serozha
      +8
      17 October 2012 09: 43
      Quote: professor
      Iran is required not to enrich uranium to the military level (sanctions on the Bushehr nuclear power plant do not stutter at all) and to make its nuclear "research" transparent

      Yeah. And then he will be required to change the regime. And even further - to separate the northern territories inhabited by Azerbaijanis. And then - to deliver gas to Europe through a new pipeline through the territory of Azerbaijan (or both Azerbaijanis, if they do not merge).
      And then what will happen to gas prices? Great! smile

      But there is nothing to worry about in nuclear Iran - as long as Israel exists, nuclear Iran will not be dangerous to anyone. Well, if Israel suddenly ceases to exist (and represents American interests in the region), then what will happen to oil prices? Great aw! smile

      And for this very reason Iranian Nuclear Program THROUGH PEACEFUL. As well as the bomb created under this program. And no other way. hi
      1. -7
        17 October 2012 09: 50
        And then he will be required to change the regime. And even further - to separate the northern territories inhabited by Azerbaijanis. And then - to deliver gas to Europe through a new pipeline through the territory of Azerbaijan (or both Azerbaijanis, if they do not merge).

        What did you stop fantasizing about? Develop an idea. laughing
        However, concrete claims to the reality of Iran (I already wrote about Bushehr) - they will fulfill them and the sanctions will end, which both America and Europe will cost a pretty penny. These are facts, not fantasies.

        Iranian Nuclear Program THROUGH PEACEFUL

        You are not original. marginals and utopians even made a film about the "Iranian peaceful atomic bomb." wassat
        1. Uncle Serozha
          +4
          17 October 2012 09: 55
          Quote: professor
          However, concrete claims to the reality of Iran (I already wrote about Bushehr) - they will fulfill them and the sanctions will end, which both America and Europe will cost a pretty penny. These are facts, not fantasies.

          These are not facts. These are wishes so far wink I mean, if you think about it ...
          Quote: professor
          You are not original. marginals and utopians even made a film about the "Iranian peaceful atomic bomb."

          Wonderful! Iranian atomic bomb is utopia. Hands off the Iranian atom of peace! smile
          1. 0
            17 October 2012 10: 00
            These are not facts. These are wishes so far

            Give at least one example of binding sanctions to the Bushehr nuclear power plant. Waiting for.
            1. Uncle Serozha
              +4
              17 October 2012 10: 02
              Quote: professor
              Give at least one example of binding sanctions to the Bushehr nuclear power plant. Waiting for.

              The question is not to the point. I wrote that the Iranian nuclear program to enrich uranium is thoroughly peaceful. The Bushehr nuclear power plant is not relevant to the enrichment program. Do not break the logical chain, do not break ... wink
              1. -1
                17 October 2012 10: 06
                The peace program does not enrich uranium above 20% and hides in deep bunkers.
                I understand your position and stop the flood.
                1. Uncle Serozha
                  +2
                  17 October 2012 10: 09
                  Quote: professor
                  The peace program does not enrich uranium above 20% and hides in deep bunkers.

                  The peace program of any sovereign country is engaged in any enrichment that it considers necessary to deal with and hides where it considers it necessary to hide. And it is peaceful until proven otherwise. The proof of the opposite can only be the fact of the creation of the bomb. wink If Iran creates it, then yes, we will have to admit that the program was not peaceful. But so far this has not happened and therefore there is no program more peaceful than Iran’s nuclear program! smile

                  Quote: professor

                  I understand your position and stop the flood.

                  That is, simply speaking, you have no arguments ...
                  1. +7
                    17 October 2012 10: 26
                    It is interesting for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, there were no problems with the creation of nuclear weapons, on January 24, 1972, at a meeting with physicists and engineers in the city of Multan, Z. Bhutto clearly outlined the task of obtaining Pakistan's own "Islamic nuclear bomb" in 85 states adopted "an amendment Pressler ", but taking into account Afghanistan they turned a blind eye, they remembered it at 90 m, and in 2005 they delivered nuclear weapons, although in 1998 Pakistan already had not an aircraft but a missile with a range of 1 km. Islamists already have nuclear weapons - but Iran still has a corn
                    1. Yarbay
                      -3
                      17 October 2012 11: 26
                      Quote: Vadivak
                      That's interesting from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan

                      Whatever Pakistan is called. It’s a big, bright country with bright laws!
                2. +3
                  17 October 2012 12: 37
                  Quote: professor
                  Peace program does not enrich uranium above 20% and hides in deep bunkers


                  usually countries seeking nuclear weapons take a different path - RNOP construction - weapons-grade plutonium production reactors. These are, as a rule, uranium-graphite heavy water reactors, quite simple in design, and using natural uranium as fuel. Irradiated fuel is then reprocessed, and from it plutonium is extracted toWhich goes to further enrichment. The DPRK went along this path, which, with the help of its reactor in Yongbyon, produced a filling for its products. Iran, having its uranium and its specialists, if it wanted to, could have long been able to build operational reactors (since their design has long been described in open sources), obtain weapons-grade plutonium, and create its own nuclear weapons. Having a stock of uranium purchased back in South Africa, he would have been able to process it at RNOPs for plutonium for a long time, create and test a nuclear explosive device, since this technology is not so complicated and has long been available in open sources.
                  According to experts, Iran cannot produce weapons-grade uranium in its centrifuges. INfirstly, the centrifuge designs themselves do not allow enrichment of up to 90% according to U-235. Secondly, Iranian uranium is heavily contaminated with impurities, in particular, molybdenum. It is possible to produce reactor fuel from it, but weapons-grade uranium cannot be obtained without preliminary purification from impurities. Iran does not have such technologies. These are facts available from open sources.
                  The secret services of the "IAEA countries" have long ago noted that they often use falsified facts, just to blame the countries they dislike. The example of exposing fakes in relation to Iraq is very indicative. Or the accusation of Kazakhstan in the secret supply of 1300 tons
                  "refined uranium ore" to Iran. it turned out to be the same duck or accusations of Russia in the supply of equipment for the production of weapons-grade plutonium from the same series ..
        2. +7
          17 October 2012 11: 59
          Quote: professor
          However, concrete claims to the reality of Iran (I already wrote about Bushehr) - they will fulfill them and the sanctions will end, which both America and Europe will cost a pretty penny. These are facts, not fantasies.


          Iran now, according to experts, is the order of a ton of LEU that is produced by centrifuges in the Natanza Center. About 20 kg of HEU (fissile material) needed to create the notorious bomb can be produced from this amount. The IAEA notes that it will take at least several months to turn low-enriched into highly enriched uranium, the necessary creation of a bomb. As there is no such equipment in Natanz, Iran will either have to upgrade its existing facilities or transfer low enriched uranium to where such equipment is. According to the international community, there are no such enterprises in Iran..
          Moreover, 20 kg is about one YBG. The presence of this only speaks of a question of a certain prestige and not of a real threat to anyone.
          There is a wise saying concerning both Israel and Iran
          "The more the dog barks, the less it bites."

          The whole Middle East has become a pack of dogs barking at each other. Who will receive the prize at this dog’s wedding? Most likely some kind of third party but not its participants who will only differ from each other in a greater or lesser degree of frailty and bittenness.
        3. 0
          17 October 2012 20: 52
          no, professor, you are wrong, the west cannot stop there, the whole of Iran will take over
      2. +3
        17 October 2012 10: 14
        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
        Well, if Israel suddenly ceases to exist (and represents American interests in the region)


        I do not agree, this is the United States representing the interests of Israel in the region, the United States is just a tool
        1. Uncle Serozha
          +1
          17 October 2012 10: 16
          Quote: Vadivak
          I do not agree, this is the United States representing the interests of Israel in the region, the United States is just a tool

          Not against this wording. Although it will be even more accurate to say that the United States and Israel are governed by the same people.
      3. Yarbay
        +2
        17 October 2012 10: 22
        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
        Yeah. And then he will be required to change the regime. And even further - to separate the northern territories inhabited by Azerbaijanis. And then - to supply gas to Europe through a new pipeline through the territory of Azerbaijan

        Are you a strategist)))))))))))
        Your exuberant fantasy!))
        1. Uncle Serozha
          +5
          17 October 2012 10: 31
          Quote: Yarbay
          Are you a strategist)))))))))))

          Not to a greater extent than those who write about what will happen if Iran receives nuclear weapons. wink
          Quote: Yarbay

          Your exuberant fantasy!))

          No more violent than those who accuse Iran of creating a bomb. wink
  6. +3
    17 October 2012 09: 15
    Damn, sorry for the fish
  7. 0
    17 October 2012 09: 26
    On the environmental disaster: this information is from the German magazine "Spiegel", the source of information was not disclosed. The name of the IRGC operation "Dirty Water", for the implementation of which only the consent of the ayatola is required. Whether this is true or not is not known for certain. We will see in the near future, so that especially nothing to comment on.
  8. +2
    17 October 2012 09: 28
    And one more tanker must be screwed in the gblartar to block oil from Libya wassat
  9. Lesorub
    0
    17 October 2012 09: 43
    Are Ayatollah regimes discredited by bloodthirsty?
  10. mnegda783
    0
    17 October 2012 10: 04
    Well, how to stop them ???????
    What is in their head ?????
    what example do they give ????
    it's ours and not foreigners ...
    Yes, even if foreigners, does it matter?
    Who decided to trade their body?
    http://ziplink.me/madams
  11. Yarbay
    0
    17 October 2012 10: 17
    *** If the oil is purposefully spilled, then even the fact of a possible military attack on Iran in the near future will become doubtful *** - This is IMPOSSIBLE !!
    If you remember in the article in the news it was written that they were waiting for the statements of Khamenei as a spiritual leader!
    But he is not able to give such a fatwa!
    According to Islam, harming the environment and in general to everything that God created is NOT possible !!
    EMPTY TALKS from Jafari !!
    1. +5
      17 October 2012 10: 28
      Quote: Yarbay
      ** If oil is purposefully spilled, then even the very fact of a possible military attack on Iran in the near future will become doubtful *** - This is IMPOSSIBLE !!

      Alibek, and if you set it on fire, you get the biggest fire in the world belay
      Quote: Yarbay
      According to Islam, harming the environment and in general to everything that God created is NOT possible !!

      Alibek, well, you know that many interpret Islam as beneficial to them.
      1. -3
        17 October 2012 10: 40
        Alibek, and if you set it on fire, you get the biggest fire in the world

        Have you tried to set fire to oil spilled into the sea? She stsuka does not burn. Bourgeois spray the oil-eating bacteria and then the aircraft carrier does not get dirty. wink
        1. +2
          17 October 2012 10: 49
          Quote: professor
          Have you tried to set fire to oil spilled into the sea?

          Professor, not too long ago amers tried to set fire to oil in the Gulf of Mexico, and I must say that it turned out not bad wink
          1. -3
            17 October 2012 11: 00
            Here either you or I confuse something. Being in the fleet we tried to set fire to oil spilled into the sea - it doesn’t burn (I don’t even mention how much it is mixed with water and not on the surface). I would love to know if they set her on fire in the Gulf of Mexico.
            1. +2
              17 October 2012 11: 05
              Well, don’t you remember the accident at the rig in the Gulf of Mexico, there was oil pouring from the well at the bottom, then it was burned, the so-called controlled fires, so that the oil burns and burns very well hi
              1. -1
                17 October 2012 11: 11
                It’s one thing when a tanker / well / drilling is on fire. another when they try to set fire to oil spilled into the sea ...
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZcDlMmpY-U
                1. +2
                  17 October 2012 11: 18
                  You are not a little about that, I already saw this in the news ...................... To prevent an environmental disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, the US Coast Guard set fire to part of a huge oil spots that formed last week as a result of the explosion of an oil platform.
                  Meanwhile, the volume of oil leakage from the wells of the Deepwater Horizon platform increased fivefold. Now, from a subsea well located at a depth of 1525 meters off the coast of Louisiana, about 190 tons of oil are poured daily. The diameter of the oil slick is almost a thousand kilometers, and its area is about 75 thousand square meters. km

                  Two specialized vessels drove oil from the places of its greatest accumulation into a 150-meter perimeter, fenced with refractory booms. Then they towed it to an 8-kilometer "burning zone" 50 kilometers south of the Louisiana coast. The oil was set on fire using mini-rafts with open sources of fire located on them.
            2. mar.tira
              +2
              17 October 2012 11: 14
              It took an hour to ignite 40 tons of oil! But when you flare up, you will not put it out, not by anything!
              1. -4
                17 October 2012 11: 16
                Not bad, especially considering the subzero temperature. good
                And if you pour it in a thin layer of salt water?
                1. +1
                  17 October 2012 11: 19
                  Quote: professor
                  And if you pour it in a thin layer of salt water?

                  And if not subtle belay
                  1. 0
                    17 October 2012 11: 26
                    And if not subtle

                    -You smear oil, smear.
                    -Yes we smear
                    -Yes you put it in pieces ... laughing

                    If you pour half a barrel of oil into a barrel in water, then burning is not a problem. And if the tanker is smashed to the shore in the Persian Gulf, then oil will spread exactly with a thin layer and it will not work to set fire to it. In the Black Sea, we could not (there was no special vessel to collect oil in a spot with a radius of tens of meters). wink
                    1. -1
                      17 October 2012 11: 31
                      Quote: professor
                      And if the tanker is smashed to the shore in the Persian Gulf, then oil will spread exactly with a thin layer and it will not work to set fire to it.

                      Well, it’s if you smash it on the shore, and not beat it with a rocket, and then you can pour it for the heat hi
                    2. 0
                      17 October 2012 16: 17
                      Quote: professor
                      And if a tanker is smashed to the shore in the Persian Gulf, then


                      Professor stop read carefully, have you tried? We are talking about the strategically important Strait of Hormuz, not the Persian Gulf! And if you undermine, set fire to a couple of oil tankers there, it will be fun for everyone lol over 33% of the oil flowing through it.
                  2. +3
                    17 October 2012 11: 53
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    And if not subtle

                    Not thin will not work. Laws of physics.
                2. mar.tira
                  0
                  17 October 2012 11: 24
                  Quote: professor
                  And if the

                  And if the woman .....! What are you fantasizing. How it will be so!
                  1. 0
                    17 October 2012 11: 28
                    What do you fantasize. How it will be so!

                    I do not fantasize - oil from a tanker spills on the surface of the sea in a thin layer, and does not fall off in large pieces.
                    1. mar.tira
                      +1
                      17 October 2012 11: 37
                      Quote: professor
                      rather than falling off in large pieces.

                      But imagine that at a low temperature when pouring heated oil it instantly hardens and turns into a large piece, since in some varieties of oil there is a very large percentage of paraffin .. The professor has been verified!
                      1. 0
                        17 October 2012 11: 49
                        And I don’t argue, but in the fucking Persian Gulf we are talking about it is very hot and the viscosity of this oil is quite low.
                      2. mar.tira
                        +2
                        17 October 2012 12: 26
                        Quote: professor
                        the viscosity of this oil is quite low.

                        I met such oil spills on the water that it didn’t even smell of oil, and there were no rainbow spots, light fractions evaporated. Like tar on the surface, and was thrown into pieces from passing ships at a temperature of + 25% C overboard. One is bad , there were a lot of dead fish on the shore. And what do you call it fucking? Bay like a bay. Nature created!
                      3. -1
                        17 October 2012 13: 31
                        Of course fucking. laughing I swam in the Gulf of Mexico, Kerch, Singapore, even Haifa, but you can’t buy in the Persian Gulf - the creation of nature is wasted in vain. sad
            3. Yarbay
              0
              17 October 2012 11: 33
              Quote: professor
              Here either you or I confuse something

              Professor, although you are stubborn and very often have an erroneous opinion, but in this case I will support you!
              The fact is that at one time (the Soviet and the first years of independence), the sea was partly in oil and oil spots and we could not set them on fire as children))
          2. +1
            17 October 2012 12: 40
            Alexander Romanov.
            To achieve the desired effect, I think it’s enough to first set the tanker on fire, and then throw it on the rocks ...
      2. Yarbay
        0
        17 October 2012 11: 29
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        Alibek, well, you know that many interpret Islam as beneficial to them.

        Yes, but there is one thing. But there are a lot of literate Muslims in Iran!
        Ayatollah cannot lose his authority!
        How will he justify his fatwa if the Muslim prophet unequivocally sending his troops on campaigns demanded that they not kill women and children, priests and not cut down trees and gardens ??
        Sanya, and with all due respect to you, I have an ironic attitude to such statements about the burning sea !!
        I believe that Iran if, that there is a more effective method, but in the case of a total war!
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          17 October 2012 11: 33
          Quote: Yarbay
          Yes, but there is one thing. But there are a lot of literate Muslims in Iran!

          Alibek, what will be left for them if the country is smashed into pieces? There will be any oil disaster there, just a couple of missiles at the terminals of the Saudis and Qatar.
          1. Yarbay
            0
            17 October 2012 11: 37
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            There will be any oil disaster there, just a couple of missiles at the terminals of the Saudis and Qatar.

            It’s one thing with rockets against the Saudis and Qatar, then there is an excuse that they say that by chance, the will of Allah!
            And here is the INTENTED action !!
            1. +2
              17 October 2012 12: 29
              Quote: Yarbay
              And here is the INTENTED action!

              Well, the forest is cut, chips fly wink
        2. Verde
          +2
          17 October 2012 13: 52
          Oh Alibek! What would all Muslims like you be. Something when Hezbollah and Hamas rockets missiles at Israeli schools PURPOSE, something when Arabs set fire to forests in Israel (purposefully knowing that every tree was planted by the hands of Jews and fertilized them afterwards, this is a way to cause heartache, despite the fact that this forest surrounds their own village and enriches the air that they breathe with oxygen), so this Islamist does not remember such commandments. Come on, you are an IDEALIST. And do not confuse hot with heavy. Islam does not add morality and does not diminish. YOU have very high moral qualities and developed respect for others, and therefore you are such a nice and pleasant Muslim. And not vice versa. The bastard will remain scum, and neither the Quran, nor the Bible, nor the torus will correct him. Yes, and the Quran, agree the controversial book. He who seeks hatred and a call to war will find them there. He who seeks peace, respect for others and himself, self-development and piety - he will find all of the above. However, as in the torus. Jewish, as well as Christian scumbags armed with quotes from the scriptures, I met quite a few. Oh, if you were a rakhbar, the whole region would bloom ...
          1. Yarbay
            +2
            17 October 2012 14: 18
            Hello Ilya!
            Quote: Verde
            Come on, you are an IDEALIST. And do not confuse hot with heavy. Islam does not add morality and does not diminish.

            It is precisely religion that adds morality, but what without it!
            I assure you I'm not a pioneer and I know what I'm talking about!
            Quote: Verde
            YOU have very high moral qualities and developed respect for others, and therefore you are such a nice and pleasant Muslim

            Thank you for your assessment, but this must and must be a Muslim, although I do not consider myself ideal, moreover, I made a lot and make mistakes!
            Quote: Verde
            The bastard will remain scum, and neither the Quran, nor the Bible, nor the torus will correct him

            Maybe you’re right, but there is one hadith from the Prophet of Muslims. Once his companions come to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and complain about one of the Muslims that he performs prayer and praying in the mosque and constantly steals, deceives that it is necessary to drive him away! The prophet answers them do not touch him or prayer will force him to refuse theft or theft will turn away from prayer!
            Quote: Verde
            Yes, and the Quran, agree the controversial book.

            I do not agree, but you are free to have an opinion!
            Quote: Verde
            He who seeks hatred and a call to war will find them there.

            This is from illiteracy! Hundreds of scholars have given interpretation to individual verses and everything is planned!
            Just foolish people fall under the influence of wealthy ignoramuses, like the Saudi Wahhabis!
            Quote: Verde
            Oh, if you were a rakhbar, the whole region would flourish ..
            My knowledge is very small to qualify for this !!
            Quote: Verde
            Something when Hezbollah and Hamas hit with rockets

            According to Islam, Hamas’s actions are heretical in general (blasting itself, attacks on schools), and if Hezbollah cooperates with them, then it’s also a great sin!
            The Wahhabis supported the catastrophes and the only person who gave fatwas about the possibility of such a thing is the blind Sheikh Yasin, justifying this with the fact that Israel has missiles, but there are no Palestinians!
            All scholars of Islam refuted this and did not support the fatwa !!
            The fact is that in addition to the sin of suicide, where does the killer have confidence that among the blown up there is no sympathy for their struggle? That children, women will not suffer, how will he answer before the Almighty ??
            I've written here before that I asked scientists if the fighter is surrounded and imminent captivity and publishing, can he kill himself ??
            Almost everyone answered NO if they believe in God, because everything happens, only with his permission !! But they noted that in this case the Most High may take pity on the poor fellow, He is merciful and merciful !!
            But killing yourself and dozens of people what can be counted on ???
            That is, for me, Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations !!
            and honestly, I know the moral qualities of the ayatollah, they have them are very high !!
            1. Verde
              0
              17 October 2012 14: 51
              Alibek, I often read your comments with great interest. You, really, are a very rare example of a balanced and reasonable person. It is unlikely that you can convince me in this matter. Alas, too many people apparently simply were not ready for the true and high morality of Islam, following the bad path. I have seen so many negative examples that it is difficult for me to drop this experience overnight. Unfortunately, for many too, the Qur'an, instead of medicine, turned out to be poison. I was born and lived until 13 years old in Yaroslavl, but we had a kind of courtyard. In our company of comrade guys there was only one Russian, I am a Jew, and all other Azerbaijanis. I think you understand the value of friendship inherent in childhood. Of my close friends, only one friend of mine, Ilgar, ONE from the whole company continued to be friends with me, not taking into account either my nationality or the fact that later I served in the IDF. Others attacked Islam, and immediately picked up anti-Semitism worse than Goebbels.
              1. Yarbay
                +2
                17 October 2012 15: 31
                Quote: Verde
                It is unlikely that you can convince me in this matter.

                I understand this and did not set such a goal answering you!
                I expressed my beliefs!
                Quote: Verde
                Alas, too many people apparently simply were not ready for the true and high morality of Islam, following the bad path. I have seen so many negative examples that it is difficult for me to drop this experience overnight. Unfortunately, for many too, the Qur'an, instead of medicine, turned out to be poison. I was born and lived until 13 years old in Yaroslavl, but we had a kind of courtyard. In our company of comrade guys there was only one Russian, I am a Jew, and all other Azerbaijanis. I think you understand the value of friendship inherent in childhood. Of my close friends, only one friend of mine, Ilgar, ONE from the whole company continued to be friends with me, not taking into account either my nationality or the fact that later I served in the IDF. Others attacked Islam, and immediately picked up anti-Semitism worse than Goebbels.

                The fact is that since childhood I had known firsthand Islam, my great-grandfather was a famous scientist to whom sheikhs and scholars came from all over the world to ask him something !!
                I was surprised about Yaroslavl!
                I also grew up in an international court, the gender of the class were Jews at school, there were Jews among the teachers, whom I remember with great respect, because they almost always understood me correctly !!
                You correctly noticed * hit * in Islam, but did not understand it !!
                You see, according to Islam, the Almighty does not give anyone greater trials than he can bear !!
                And to justify your atrocities in that you are * weaker * is not right!
                and I want to add that we have the Hero of Azerbaijan Albert Agarunov, who has done much more for me than my country!
                He Died for her !!
                On his tank at the entrance to Shusha, he knocked out three enemy tanks and was killed by a sniper !!
                How can I feel bad about Jews !?
                Or Russian Yuri Kovalev, also a Hero of Azerbaijan, similarly made more than me DIED for this Motherland, having repeatedly committed heroic acts!
                1. Verde
                  +1
                  17 October 2012 15: 51
                  Yarbay,
                  You correctly noticed * hit * in Islam, but did not understand it !!

                  How right you are!

                  Yarbay,
                  And to justify your atrocities in that you are * weaker * is not right!

                  Moreover, the funny thing is, I'm not stronger, and not richer than these guys. And about Yaroslavl, there have always lived a lot of Azerbaijanis in Soviet times. (Now the majority have moved to Moscow) Not the smallest regional center, with a developed industry, and an abundance of scientific institutions, attracted qualified specialists. (Until now, I’m jarred when some idiots associate Azerbaijanis only with vegetable dealers. The parents of all children, without exception, were engineers, researchers and parents worked for the police in one. (It’s just that Ilgar’s father was a cool opera, and after perestroika opened the lawyer cantor) For a long time already one of the most respected and high-class lawyers in the city.
  12. +1
    17 October 2012 10: 40
    Humanity has few natural disasters. If countries begin to develop and adopt the creation of artificial disasters, then without any atomic weapons can be arranged on the earth armageddon! So, through the efforts of wise, mostly Western politicians, mankind was on the verge of using a new type of weapon, creating a gigantic environmental disaster (tanker oil can be spilled not only in the Strait of Hormuz), the consequences of which are difficult to assess.
  13. 0
    17 October 2012 10: 40
    Explicitly provoke Iran, wait for it to snap back, so as to attack the alleged aggressor.
  14. +4
    17 October 2012 13: 07
    The site lacks an IRGC commander, Jafari. He would find out a lot of useful things about how best to spill oil. smile
    1. +2
      17 October 2012 15: 36
      Solidarity with "baltika-18". We need to publish this correspondence. Iranians could pick up a few new war plans and blueprints for an atomic bomb, Jews could read about peace-loving Islamists who simply cannot be killed and blown up.
      I’ll go and eat something until they set fire to the Persian Gulf and until the Muslims kissed Jews and Christians to death .....
      1. +1
        17 October 2012 16: 10
        Shah! I already threw off the Jafari link, if it burns out wassat Gesheft is mine hi .
  15. wolverine7778
    -2
    17 October 2012 18: 29
    Ecological disaster that Iran could arrange on the sea
    Iran will not dare, it will not be legal from the point of view of international law, it will lead even more to condemnation of the world community)
    1. +2
      17 October 2012 18: 46
      global community?
      don't tell my slippers bully .
      the world community condemns the genocide of the indigenous people of the United States, as well as the use of bacteriological weapons against them, and so what?
      is it somehow annoying amers?
      1. wolverine7778
        -2
        17 October 2012 20: 07
        the world community condemns the genocide of the indigenous people of the United States, as well as the use of bacteriological weapons against them, and so what?
        is it somehow annoying amers?

        There is one phrase "Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi." - "What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull." I want to warn you right away that I am neutral to Iran and do not harbor hatred, but you yourself see that with its friction, bluff and threats, Iran has led itself into a corner, Iran had a drain of opportunities for cooperation with the West, the United States, which the Arab countries do not have, because Iran has a state religion more even closer to Christianity than Arab Sunnism. Iran has opposed itself to the entire world community, both the West and the East, not counting Russia and Syria, of course, which will have a bad effect on the Ayatollah regime. But in the world, confrontation is always counterproductive for the economy of the country, its population. If Iran inflicts an ecological catastrophe, then it will cross the line of what is permissible, which no one will treat with understanding either the Arabs or the West, i.e. it will be suicide for Iran, and no one will express condolences to her passing.)
        1. 0
          17 October 2012 21: 31
          Quote: wolverine7778
          for Iran, it will be suicide, and no one will express condolences on her death.)
          Why not? I will condole. And there are still a lot of sane people who see and know that the United States and the West cooperate only through "lowering" their partners, as was the case with Egypt, Libya, Panama, and many more countries.
        2. 0
          18 October 2012 00: 31
          Quote: wolverine7778
          You yourself see that with its front-lineness, bluffs and threats, Iran itself led itself into a corner, Iran had runoff opportunities for cooperation with the West, the USA

          I do not agree, as we see in the West (USA) on Iran’s account, very elaborate plans, which shows that they were not born as spontaneous countermeasures to Iran’s obstinate behavior.
  16. SoVIet ZiMBo_O
    0
    17 October 2012 21: 24
    Something the Euro Union is stupid, all the same equipment will be delivered to Tehran by China, they are putting a loop on themselves ?!
  17. Yarbay
    -1
    18 October 2012 09: 37
    Well, as expected, the information turned out to be * duck *


    A senior Iranian official called the Der Spiegel report false that Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is preparing an environmental disaster in the Persian Gulf, Reuters reported October 17.

    Mohammed-Reza Naqdi, the head of the Basij paramilitaries, said the assumption was completely unfounded. He noted that water pollution in the Persian Gulf will cause considerable damage to Iran, so the accusations of preparing a plan for an oil spill in the Strait of Hormuz are groundless.

    Recall, on October 14, Der Spiegel reported that a plan called "Dirty Water" was developed by order of the commander of the IRGC, General Mohammed Ali Jafari and the commander of the IRGC Navy, Admiral Ali Fadawi, and submitted for approval to the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

    1. +1
      18 October 2012 10: 38
      Quote: Yarbay
      Well, as expected, the information turned out to be * duck *

      Maybe it's not a duck, but a conscious disinformation?
      1. Yarbay
        -2
        18 October 2012 17: 26
        Quote: Flood
        Maybe it's not a duck, but a conscious disinformation?

        Dear I wrote above why this could not happen !!
        Jafari, would sit down would say such words, would surely be punished !!
        This is contrary to ideology !!

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