What's wrong with sanctions: the largest US banks returned to trading in Russian government bonds

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What's wrong with sanctions: the largest US banks returned to trading in Russian government bonds

There was information about the actual circumvention in the United States of America of sanctions against the Russian public debt, which were previously introduced there. This is reported by journalists of the major American publication Bloomberg. What is the legitimate circumvention of the sanctions regime in this regard?

According to Bloomberg, the largest US banks have returned to trading in Russian government bonds. We are talking about banks such as Bank of America and JP Morgan. At the same time, the bank's management said that Russian bonds could be traded through individuals.

The material states that trading in Russian government bonds "through individuals cannot be considered a violation of US Treasury sanctions." It is noteworthy that such an explanation, as American journalists write, was given by the United States Department of the Treasury itself. The commentary of the department says that banks can act as intermediaries in the implementation of transactions in Russian government bonds (bonds) between individuals.

This news provoked controversy among Western experts. In particular, it is noted that such a “clarification” from the US Treasury actually removes the trade in Russian bonds from the sanctions regime. At the same time, it is said that, in fact, the sanctions in this segment did not actually work, moreover, they also caused damage to the United States itself - first of all, they deprived American banks of the opportunity to receive large profits. There is also a version that banks took such a step involuntarily - due to the fact that many US private pension funds had previously invested in Russian bonds, and after the imposition of sanctions, they lost the opportunity to provide millions of their customers within the framework of contractual obligations.
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    1. +1
      15 August 2022 21: 26
      Suspiciously.
      1. +6
        15 August 2022 21: 37
        Quote: Raccoon
        Suspiciously.

        What is suspicious here? American pensioners also want to eat! They will set them up for sanctions, they can even grab a gun Yes
        1. +21
          15 August 2022 21: 43
          Americans can do anything.
          Why shouldn't Russia ban private individuals from trading in Russian bonds?
          Then American pensioners (well, those who want to eat) will take up a gun.
          1. +6
            15 August 2022 21: 55
            The piquancy of the situation is that US pension funds subsidize the Russian economy and this is with hellish sanctions laughing And let them subsidize more, we will forgive them everything on occasion.
            1. -7
              15 August 2022 22: 08
              Quote: Edik
              The piquancy of the situation is that the US pension funds subsidize the Russian economy and this is with hellish sanctions. And if they subsidize more, we will forgive them everything on occasion.

              Here would be more detailed.
              Whether these funds go to the development of our real sector, or it is still unknown where. Rather, it's the second one. hi
              1. +6
                15 August 2022 22: 22
                Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                Whether these funds go to the development of our real sector, or it is still unknown where.

                They go to the Russian budget, and then I can’t say anymore. I know that a lot of infrastructure projects are being implemented in Russia now, which will definitely have a positive impact on the economy in the future! hi
                1. 0
                  16 August 2022 06: 17
                  Any financial transactions with Russia by the United States have two goals - to make a profit and rob Russia.
                  Even if it seems that now it is beneficial for Russia, we will regret it in the future.
                  The robbery of accounts and the seizure of diplomatic property clearly showed this.
                  England and the US should be under a 100% ban on any financial transactions.
                  You can do business with their allies, but no long-term projects and orders.
            2. -8
              15 August 2022 22: 12
              Profits settle on frozen accounts and the Russian Federation simply cannot use them
              1. +4
                15 August 2022 23: 50
                Frozen old accounts that were previously opened in foreign banks. Now everything is done through Russian banks.
            3. +1
              15 August 2022 23: 45
              They don't subsidize, they lend. And not the economy, but the Russian state.
            4. +3
              16 August 2022 05: 58
              Quote: Edik
              The piquancy of the situation is that US pension funds subsidize the Russian economy

              A donation is a non-refundable transfer. Where did some US pension fund do this? They can be investors, acquiring our debt securities and receiving periodic income from them. Is not it?
              1. 0
                16 August 2022 08: 18
                Quote: Hagen
                Is not it?

                Until they thawed our money, I don’t even know how to call it correctly! They are lawless, but what keeps us? hiLet's call it donation. wink
          2. +2
            15 August 2022 23: 06
            Russian bonds

            it's called OFZ,
            federal loan bonds - yield 9,2% good
            in Sberbank on Vavilov (Moscow time) are sold for individuals, there is OFZ-IN with inflation protection good
            American bonds for individuals - income no more than 1,5-2,2% - illiquid feel
          3. +2
            16 August 2022 06: 19
            Quote: Blacksmith 55
            Americans can do anything.

        2. -1
          16 August 2022 06: 40
          "It's just business and nothing personal" hi
          That's the whole point of capitalism...
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      2. +6
        15 August 2022 21: 39
        Quote: Raccoon
        Suspiciously.

        Predictable. Mattress covers are not fools to refuse money wassat . The colonies must finance their masters. And you say foreign investment, that's good. But who is good? Freeze dividends weakly ? Or will we pay? hi
    2. +10
      15 August 2022 21: 29
      Oh how !!! laughing laughing laughing What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull. They wanted it - they entered it, they wanted it - they removed it. Aya-yay lol How is it with them - business and nothing personal .... But you don’t even think about relaxing sanctions there in Europe ...
      1. +14
        15 August 2022 21: 45
        Quote: Rurikovich
        But you there in Europe, do not try to relax sanctions ...

        Dear Andrey, the author did not fully announce this news. The German Deutsche Bank and the English Barclays are still involved in this trade, I think you can write a little differently "only the elite are allowed to the table."
    3. +2
      15 August 2022 21: 30
      Quote: Raccoon
      Suspiciously.

      But it is indicative. Just business, nothing personal
    4. +5
      15 August 2022 21: 34
      On our part, it is necessary to prohibit the purchase and sale by the Americans, at least to physicists, even to yuriks.
      Referring to US Treasury sanctions.
    5. +1
      15 August 2022 21: 35
      What's wrong with sanctions: the largest US banks returned to trading in Russian government bonds


      Capitalism. You won't get anywhere. laughing
    6. +8
      15 August 2022 21: 35
      America often does this - noisily and with pathos announces sanctions, and then quietly and casually acts as it is beneficial to them. Some are canceled, some are allowed to be bypassed. And Europe, in the desire to please the American district committee, plunges into the most do not indulge.
    7. +1
      15 August 2022 21: 39
      Oh, how many of our bonds are held by American banks? The Americans do not do anything to their own detriment. Let's look tomorrow at the reaction of the Central Bank of Russia.
    8. +3
      15 August 2022 21: 41
      ... many US private pension funds have previously invested in Russian bonds ...

      That is, we work hard here, we don’t see a normal life - only cheap show-offs from those who appropriated everything and sell it for a pittance ... and all this is only so that American old pensioners live in peace and ride around the planet and on trains, both on boats and on airplanes - with all the amenities! ...???
      Well, well, forever Jewish "happiness" does not happen. The question of why successful people leave Russia is becoming more and more urgent.
    9. +11
      15 August 2022 21: 46
      Come on! I don't like it! What a bullshit! Ukrainians speak Russian, the Americans trade in our securities, Europe sucks oil like crazy, the Japanese cannot be driven away from Sakhalin oil and gas with a stick - they seized and ossified ... Yes, what is it - after all! Come on sanctions! Stop fooling around! Dead means dead!
    10. GNM
      +2
      15 August 2022 21: 58
      Nifiga did not understand, but very interesting. (FROM)
      Are these the figures drawn on the monitor, for which it is impossible to buy butter to spread on bread? Is this the drawn US GDP that is not based on real resources and production assets?
      It's a pity that I'm in financial capitalism with no foot in the tooth.
      1. +1
        15 August 2022 22: 20
        The Americans have turned our bonds into garbage with their sanctions, and now they are trading garbage among themselves. Interesting. But this is Bloomberg.
    11. +10
      15 August 2022 22: 55
      Is it good or bad?
    12. 0
      15 August 2022 22: 57
      Until the dollar against the ruble is 1:1, at least we will sponsor these impudent bourgeois and take their inflation upon ourselves. The volatility of the ruble is huge, only a fool does not make money on it.
    13. +1
      15 August 2022 22: 58
      Quote: Edik
      I know that a lot of infrastructure projects are being implemented in Russia now, which will definitely have a positive impact on the economy in the future!

      For more than a decade, everything has been implemented and implemented, and is about to have a "positive effect" ... but something still does not affect.
    14. SSR
      0
      15 August 2022 23: 13
      Where is the link to Bloomberg and the original article?
      1. +1
        16 August 2022 04: 29
        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-15/jpmorgan-bofa-among-banks-moving-back-into-russian-bond-trading

        It is clear that the meaning, as always, was distorted, and the point is that banks returned to what was never forbidden (those who bought bonds were left with the opportunity to sell them and thus withdraw from the number of holders), but just in case, banks did not do this so that as no matter what happened. Propaganda tries to avoid absolutely outright lies, because you can collect real events and distort the meaning as you like, the target audience does not need anything more than another victory.
    15. +3
      16 August 2022 04: 06
      Because America is by nature not a nation, but a walking corpse ruled by a Jewish master. And in every war and crisis in the world, you end up finding Jews. The Jews are best at controlling their masters to create crises, and then because America is not really a country, but simply an organism that parasitizes the Jews. In every war and crisis in the world, one can trace the roots and eventually find the Jewish virus. The Jews are best at controlling their masters, creating crises and then using them to their advantage.

      Jews even in this forum tell their Russian "masters" that China will invade east of the Urals, and Damansky is the best proof of this. It is the United States that is friends with Russia and has no desire to do so.

      In China, we also hear voices on the Internet saying that the Russians are the biggest threat to China, that the Russians are full of ambition and desire.

      The louder this voice sounds in the common struggle against the United States. Ignoring the fact that China has been at economic war with the US for four years now and that now is the time to join forces, it is he who wants to break the alliance with Russia and put sand in bread.

      The Jews on this site even distribute land around the world and they can proudly tell me which islands belong to Japan and which should be independent of China.

      Seeing this, I realized: Hitler was wrong to invade Russia. But he was absolutely right when he built bathhouses and fireplaces for non-Jews.
    16. 0
      16 August 2022 05: 42
      The US Department of the Treasury actually removes the trade in Russian bonds from the sanctions regime.
      It's time for us to impose sanctions and prohibit trading in our bonds, as they prohibited us from using our $. angry
    17. 0
      16 August 2022 09: 39
      There is also a version that banks were forced to take such a step - due to the fact that many US private pension funds had previously invested in Russian bonds, and after the imposition of sanctions, they lost the opportunity to provide millions of their customers

      good version wassat
      There are more of them.
      Quote: banki.ru
      At the beginning of 2021, 6,9% of all OFZs were in the hands of US investors. The value of these bonds was approximately 200 billion rubles. 80% of securities worth about 160 billion rubles were for one investor, whose name is not revealed.

      https://www.banki.ru/news/daytheme/?id=10953612
    18. 0
      16 August 2022 10: 09
      Well, they just want to get rid of these assets, we are talking about selling them, not buying them.

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