19fortyfive about the Russian "Hunter"

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The promising Russian unmanned aerial vehicle S-70 Okhotnik naturally attracts the attention of foreign experts and the specialized press. So, the American edition 19fortyfive.com ("1945") is closely following the progress of the project. It regularly publishes its articles on the S-70 and has addressed the topic twice in recent days. In recent articles, the production and technical prospects of the new drone, and also assessed the possibility of its use in a real military operation.

Should I start to get nervous?


A few days ago, the publication published an article by Steve Balestrieri "Russia's S-70 Stealth Drone: Should the US Military Start Sweating?" (“Russian S-70 Stealth Drone: Should the US Military Get Nervous?”). It considered the features of the two prototypes built, known production plans, etc. In addition, interesting conclusions were drawn.



The main conclusion is quite simple. 1945 believes that the Western military should not panic - at least not for now. In particular, because the publication tends to consider the well-known characteristics of the new UAV critically, because Moscow has a "tradition" to overestimate the capabilities of its technology.

The publication acknowledges that the second experienced "Hunter" is noticeably different from the first and should surpass it in terms of stealth. However, it is noted that this is only a prototype, which only has to pass all the tests on the ground and in the air. Only during these events will he show the real characteristics of stealth.

Another potential problem that could interfere with the S-70 project is the economy and production. According to 1945, Russia's ability to finance the development, design and manufacture of new products may be in question. Economic problems and Western sanctions have a negative impact on all these processes, which is why the Russian industry lags behind foreign ones in the production of weapons and equipment, as well as spare parts for them.

Nevertheless, S. Balestrieri does not rule out a positive scenario. If the “Russian boasting” has any real basis, the S-70 UAV will be a dangerous and deadly adversary.


The first experimental S-70 in flight tests, 2019

It is assumed that Moscow sees the progress of the United States in the field of stealth technology and unmanned aviation - and these processes bother her. Perhaps this is the reason why the new Russian project Okhotnik is receiving such coverage in the open press. With the help of information disclosure, Russia and personally Vladimir Putin demonstrate to their and foreign audiences the development of military potential in the same areas as the United States, as well as the acquisition of appropriate capabilities.

"Hunter" over Ukraine?


Almost simultaneously in "1945" appeared the publication of Peter Suchiu "Could Russia Send Its S-70B Stealth Drone to Fight in Ukraine?" (“Should Russia send the deadly S-70B UAV to fight in Ukraine?”) The article focused on the features of the use of combat aviation and the prospects for the use of unmanned systems.

Remind that during the Special Operation in Ukraine, the Russian army is increasingly relying on UAVs. It is even reported about the purchase of Iranian equipment of this class to expand operational capabilities. In addition, according to "1945", the newest S-70 "Hunter" can take part in the operation. P. Suchiu assumes that this will happen next year.

Earlier, Russian specialists tested the "Hunter" in an environment as close as possible to combat. In the conditions of the Ashuluk training ground, the UAV took on the role of a “faithful wingman” and worked together with the Su-57 fighter, solving combat missions. Recently it became known that the "Hunter" will go into mass production in 2023, and it will be accepted into service in 2024.

Based on this information, the American publication makes an assumption about the possible timing of the start of experiments with the combat use of new heavy UAVs in the current military operation. In addition, the article discusses the technical aspects of the project and some of its features. At the same time, they did without a detailed analysis of the technical and combat potential of the drone.

Increased interest


Foreign experts and specialized publications are showing obvious interest in the S-70 Okhotnik project. They try to analyze the available information and draw conclusions or predictions. At the same time, foreign publications tend to trust dubious sources and use ambiguous theses. All this can distort the real picture - and lead to incorrect forecasts.


Roll-out of the second flight model, December 2021

Using the example of recent publications in 19fortyfive.com, one can see that American specialized specialists generally perceive the promising S-70 UAV without optimism or even criticize it. They do not fully trust the available information, and also doubt the declared capabilities. How justified such an attitude is a big question.

Critical opinions are also based on biased assessments. In particular, foreign experts tend to overestimate the impact of economic or organizational difficulties. In addition, there may be no objective information on this subject. Some also recall the “argument” about the chronic lag of Russian industry behind the American one and the fundamental impossibility of closing the gap.

However, despite the negative forecasts, the S-70 still has to be considered as a potentially dangerous and effective model. Foreign authors make a reservation that if all problems are solved, he will make a potential adversary sweat. In addition, they are already evaluating the possibility of the appearance of the "Hunter" in the current theater of operations. So far, however, without "objective" attempts to determine its combat effectiveness.

Real situation


While foreign experts and the media are trying to make predictions, Russian industry continues to work on Okhotnik. With the involvement of two flight samples, full-fledged tests are carried out, incl. with the solution of practical problems. In parallel, preparations are underway for the launch of mass production and subsequent operation of the UAV in the troops.

Recall that the development of a new type of heavy strike UAV started at the beginning of the last decade. In 2018, the first prototype was built, and in August 2019 it took to the air for the first time. At the end of last year, the second prototype was rolled out of the assembly shop in an updated configuration. According to some reports, it will be he who will become the model for the next series.

In mid-May 2022, the management of the Rostec state corporation announced that work on the Okhotnik was successfully moving forward. Serial production is scheduled to begin next year. The exact timing of the delivery of finished devices to the troops has not yet been named. It can be assumed that these processes will begin as early as 2023-24.


The bulk of the technical information remains closed. At the same time, the appearance of prototypes gives some clues. In particular, it is clear that the S-70 is a subsonic aircraft and is distinguished by its high range and flight duration. In addition, it must be distinguished by high weighty perfection.

The UAV is made using stealth technologies aimed at reducing radar and thermal visibility. To counter the radar, special contours of the airframe and, possibly, electronic warfare equipment are used. On the second prototype, a special flat engine nozzle appeared, which reduces the visibility for IR tools. How successful such measures and means are is not known. At the same time, there are no grounds for negative assessments typical of foreign publications.

"Hunter" receives a developed complex of electronic equipment and an autopilot with the possibility of independent work and use in a group. With its help, the UAV will be able to monitor the air situation and find ground targets, as well as transmit and receive information. One of the tasks of the S-70 will be to strike at ground targets. To do this, guided missiles or bombs will be placed inside the airframe and on the external sling. Similar drone capabilities have already been demonstrated to the general public.

Abroad, they expect the S-70 to show its strike potential not only in the conditions of the test site. It is quite possible that in the foreseeable future one of the existing devices will indeed be tested as part of the Special Operation. However, when this will happen - and whether it will happen at all - is not yet clear. However, the use of the new UAV will be reported, and this episode will receive due attention.

Predictable Interest


Advanced Russian developments, especially in areas new to our industry, always arouse increased interest both within the country and abroad. And the reaction to them is always predictable. Thus, the foreign press, including specialized publications, is critical of Russian-made samples, although it tries to maintain a semblance of objectivity.

However, the industry and the Ministry of Defense do not pay attention to foreign publications and continue to work according to the established schedule. As a result of this, the S-70 "Hunter" is approaching the launch of the series and adoption into service. These events will take place in the foreseeable future - and will again cause a stir. And you can already imagine how the foreign media will react to them.
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  • Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, "UAC"
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  1. +23
    16 August 2022 16: 06
    “Could Russia Send Its S-70B Stealth Drone to Fight in Ukraine?” (“Should Russia send deadly UAV S-70B to fight in Ukraine?”)

    Deadly - you yourself have already invented it. There is no such thing in the original. laughing
    1. +16
      16 August 2022 16: 39
      It will turn out, as with the Armata platform, which has become a design long-term construction due to the lack of a whole range of components and assemblies. They will cut the loot and close the program. The lousy Orions are not able to put into production, but here the machine is much more complicated and technologically advanced!
      1. +4
        16 August 2022 19: 50
        Yes. She (the machine) is not just a UAV, but an unmanned aircraft. Ours may not know how to make UAVs, but they seem to know how to make planes. And the Hunter is almost a full-fledged aircraft ... even if unmanned
      2. +3
        17 August 2022 16: 00
        T14 in comparison with T90M does not give a sharp increase in power, but a sharp increase in complexity in production does. With the S-70, the opposite is true. A new look, there are no pilots, everything is easier to implement in the air ... and not everything is possible at once (step by step: bomber-bomber corr with bombs - he searches and bombs himself)
      3. 0
        18 August 2022 21: 03
        . more complex and technical

        Yes, this is true, each next generation of technology is becoming more complex, expensive and more technologically advanced, WWII is a war of economies WW2 is a technology war. The approach "we don't need to sell our oil and buy everything" will leave the Russian Federation on the sidelines of progress.
      4. +6
        19 August 2022 09: 55
        The easiest way is to talk about "cutting" with the air of a prosecutor - we have such a tradition, in the kitchen to scold everything and everyone.
        Do you have any idea how much R&D goes "on the table"? How many projects are frozen and then restarted?
        "These eggheads eat for our proletarian money, but something new every 10 years!"?
    2. +2
      16 August 2022 18: 26
      Quote: Pulkovo1942
      “Should Russia send a deadly S-70B UAV to fight in Ukraine?”

      hi
      Posted by Peter Suchiu

      His last name is spelled Suchu.
      Emphasis on the first letter "U".
      I suspect that he has Romanian roots, since in Romania he has many namesakes.
      Vasile Suchu - Romanian clergyman
      Daniel Suchu and Vasile Suchu are deputies of the Social Democratic Party of Romania
    3. 0
      28 September 2022 13: 26
      And, it seems there is not "should" but "may".
  2. -1
    16 August 2022 16: 09
    Okhotnik" will go into serial production in 2023, and it will be put into service in 2024.

    Still a long time to wait... sad
    1. -2
      16 August 2022 17: 44
      Quote: Leshak
      Still a long time to wait...

      In my opinion, unfortunately, modern Russia is capable of pilot production of single copies. I think that they will produce 6-9 pieces. annually, it is in the case of not drinking money.
    2. 0
      17 August 2022 17: 28
      Tomorrow is the last day and on the road
  3. -18
    16 August 2022 16: 12
    The contrast directly hurt the eye, a modern unmanned aerial vehicle .. and K-700 .. laughing
    1. +14
      16 August 2022 16: 23
      At many airfields, APAs based on the ZIL-130 are still being driven. and what now?
      1. 0
        16 August 2022 17: 33
        Zil 130 is an excellent car;
    2. +16
      16 August 2022 16: 23
      K-700 power ... for another 50 years they will crawl through the fields Yes
    3. +2
      16 August 2022 19: 22
      The contrast really hurt my eyes

      And you offer to buy an American truck, but then it will not be patriotic.
    4. +1
      25 August 2022 09: 35
      What's wrong? Well, there would be spokes for an airfield tractor, and what's the difference then? And Kirovets will clean the snow and drag the plane and much more, so, on the contrary, they approached economically ..
  4. +6
    16 August 2022 16: 12
    What is this lame article about?
    1. +16
      16 August 2022 16: 22
      About pennies for letters feel Ryabov ripples in the eyes ... one "water" in the articles negative
      1. +2
        16 August 2022 17: 14
        thanks for bringing this to your attention; now I won’t read the comments because it’s empty chores with a lot of flies.
    2. 0
      16 August 2022 17: 33
      Ahaha removed from the tongue))
  5. KCA
    +4
    16 August 2022 16: 15
    The USSR and Russia tend to greatly belittle the performance characteristics of their products, which gives some hope to the enemy, well, or they don’t give the performance characteristics at all and let them guess, everywhere, no matter how you look instead of the performance characteristics of Onyx, they draw the performance characteristics of Yakhont, and so on in everything
  6. +3
    16 August 2022 16: 23
    The Americans have shown a similar project for a long time. Then, however, they closed.
  7. +1
    16 August 2022 16: 23
    Please tell me who is in the subject, the United States seems to have created a similar UAV for a long time? And it looks like they gave it up?
    1. +7
      16 August 2022 16: 28
      Did the United States create such a UAV for a long time?

      Boeing X-45 and Northrop Grumman X-47. Both projects were ahead of their time. Work is underway on the Kratos XQ-58 Valkyrie.


      1. 0
        16 August 2022 16: 37
        Tankers will stamp.
        1. +2
          16 August 2022 16: 42
          Tankers will stamp.

          MQ-25 has already confirmed its capabilities. Surely in the near future they will begin to stamp.
      2. 0
        16 August 2022 16: 44
        Thanks for the reply.
      3. +1
        16 August 2022 20: 38
        The prefix X means exactly that the product is experimental and is not intended for further development.
    2. 0
      17 August 2022 11: 15
      Quote: ASAD
      Please tell me who is in the subject, the United States seems to have created a similar UAV for a long time?

      RQ-170. It has been flying for fifteen years. True, he is purely reconnaissance.
  8. DO
    -1
    16 August 2022 16: 35
    It is quite possible that in the foreseeable future one of the existing devices will indeed be tested as part of the Special Operation.

    The stealth S-70 is effective primarily for attacking targets containing radars. That is, for naval targets, for ground-based air defense systems.
    There are forecasts in the press about Western deliveries of serious air defense systems to Ukraine. If these deliveries take place, then it will make sense to use the S-70 stealth.
    In the meantime, it seems that investments in the modernization of old Su-25, Su-24 drones are more effective.
  9. +6
    16 August 2022 16: 36
    Probably, when I retire, I will not see this UAV in mass production anyway.
    1. +2
      16 August 2022 16: 44
      when will i retire

      Not only everyone is now surviving until retirement.
  10. +9
    16 August 2022 16: 52
    should the US military start to get nervous?
    Not yet! The US military does not take into account our main problem. These are retrograde blockheads GENERALS who look at an ordinary UAV and do not understand how it helps the mortar to aim, and if it does not understand, then it does not need it. No armats, hunters will help , while we have such characters sitting at the head of Parquet. We need creative minds and not this "sand" hi
    1. +4
      16 August 2022 17: 05
      These are retrograde blockheads GENERALS

      And not just the generals. Even before the start of the SVO (somewhere at the end of November), I met a familiar lieutenant colonel in the park. We chatted about this and that, then we started talking about the need to saturate the troops with modern equipment. As soon as I started talking about UAVs, condescending smiles, stories about incredible air defense, etc.
      What is the conclusion: the information gap between generations is too big, there is no interest and desire to learn new things.
      1. -1
        16 August 2022 18: 02
        And not just the generals. Even before the start of the NWO (somewhere at the end of November), I met a familiar lieutenant colonel in the park
        Are you a Lieutenant Colonel too?
        hi
      2. +9
        16 August 2022 20: 50
        Well, heavy UAVs in the air defense zone are really suicide bombers ...
        The problem is not the colonel or the general.
        We need a reform of the army, based on a scientific approach. A staff should be created for new models of weapons, training should be carried out at universities, and training units should be created where instructors trained at the university will teach personnel.
        When all this is done, no one will have any questions. And so, there is no staff, there is no training, there are no special training sessions - as a result, "freelance" operators learn on a whim by the "poke" method - of course, everyone has questions ...
        At the beginning, there should be a reform of the army for new models of weapons, then these samples should be supplied, but we have the opposite, at first a sample, then they think how to use it ...
        It is logical that heavy drones should be equipped with separate units as part of army aviation brigades, and then new brigades should be formed.
        Under the medium drones, it seems, more or less the staff was adjusted - they are at the artillery and reconnaissance battalion of the brigade. But in theory, in addition to this, they would create UAV companies in the brigade, as well as distribute battalion platoons and battalion mortar batteries to reconnaissance.
        Also, under light UAVs, introduce a separate unit as part of a company, and it is logical to make the deputy platoon commanders a full-time UAV operator, at the platoon level. That is, it’s not easy to appoint, but a person must go into training for several months and master the UAV, materiel, control and tactics. Then they will be able to train personnel in their platoon. For example, if I were a commander, I would train a grenade launcher and his second quadric number. Firstly, so that they can effectively fire from a grenade launcher, plus in asymmetric conflicts, the grenade launcher is not always loaded with work, and has the opportunity to do this. But this is just a freelance position. But a UAV operator must be on staff for a platoon. And whether it is a deputy commander or an individual needs to be added to the staff, this already needs to be looked at from a scientific point of view, but I can say for sure that in all universities of the ground forces and marines there should be a subject where a cadet learns to work with UAVs. Moreover, if scouts and artillerymen (spotters) must learn everything, then infantry commanders, maybe management and material base, should be briefly, the emphasis should be on tactical methods. How to use it, what tasks to set for operators in order to get what they really need and what they can really do, how to counteract the work of enemy UAVs, this is camouflage, these are effective methods of hitting ...
        And for the operators of privates and sergeants, there should be training units in each district.
        Then the colonel and the generals will know who is responsible for this, and everyone will be happy, the army will make orders to the industry. Drone specialists will give manufacturers competent feedback...
        Okay, quadrics, the soldier will somehow learn how to use them. Here are the Orions. Sticking them up is bullshit. And there is money, and there is a factory, and China sells imported components. The question is that they cannot be managed so simply competently, one must learn. Moreover, to learn not only the operator, but also the unit commander, who will competently set tasks for them.
        But we don’t have training books, we don’t have staffs where to supply them ..
        As a result, they found several enthusiasts, gave them 36 orions. Excellent. But this is not a systematic approach. Building 1000 orions is bullshit. But it's not a quadric. They need airfields, hangars, command posts, equipment that will maintain and repair them, hundreds of operators, dozens of their commanders, but they are not there and there is nowhere to take them ... And you can build orions and 10000 ...
        As a result, it turns out that with microscopes (orions), we hammer nails (we use them inefficiently), someone will shout that the technique is bad. No, the technology is great. There are no personnel and a training system, there is no developed tactics for the use of UAVs and interaction with both ground forces and army / front-line aviation. Although heavy UAVs working in the interests of army and front-line aviation can be even more effective than those working in the interests of infantry and artillery. Because they will be able to identify targets in advance and deploy aircraft precisely to this target in real time ... Now, at first, the Ukrainians will shoot us from the MLRS, and in fact we are raising aircraft, we are trying to work it out ... And if dozens of eagles and orions hang, and direct the same Su-34s at them before they went to the position and fired back, the effect will be higher. And they can also aim at air defense, which is even disguised and does not include radar. Because it will fire on changing positions, and no matter how well it is masked later, the positions will be known.
    2. -2
      16 August 2022 20: 08
      How many generals did you personally know?
    3. -1
      18 August 2022 08: 30
      Quote: spirit
      The US military does not take into account our main problem.

      it was always
      remember the situation with IL-2: they (our generals) demanded that it be single! and only the war forced to return to the 2-seater version
      then, with all their show-offs, they were still afraid
      now they are not afraid of anything, and why? They won’t take away the pension, they won’t send them to Solovki, the real estate is on relatives ...
      1. 0
        19 August 2022 17: 36
        Quote: Dedok
        it was always
        remember the situation with IL-2: they (our generals) demanded that it be single! and only the war forced to return to the 2-seater version
        then, with all their show-offs, they were still afraid
        now they are not afraid of anything, and why? They won’t take away the pension, they won’t send them to Solovki, the real estate is on relatives ...


        However, there is another opinion, by the way, with corresponding descriptions of events.
        https://zen.yandex.ru/media/valerongrach/kto-i-pochemu-reshil-snachala-vypuskat-odnomestnyi-il2-a-ne-dvuhmestnyi-62001c6f84dd2d271b2dd9e8
        Therefore, you think that this author is wrong ... confirm with your facts and conclusions !!!
        1. 0
          22 August 2022 08: 39
          Quote: Dali
          https://zen.yandex.ru/media/valerongrach/kto-i-pochemu-reshil-snachala-vypuskat-odnomestnyi-il2-a-ne-dvuhmestnyi-62001c6f84dd2d271b2dd9e8

          I read it, but I didn’t see the facts in the article
          you do not like Stalin and his decisions? - it's not for me
  11. +5
    16 August 2022 16: 56
    Again, "gigantomania", dear UAVs that would also be protected until the air defense was suppressed. The army needs cheap UAVs for reconnaissance, target designation, we need Israeli-type kamikaze UAVs, we need UAVs that imitate a false target for air defense, and all this is needed in large quantities so that hundreds fly over the front line every day.
    1. +2
      16 August 2022 17: 21
      All are needed. Both those and these. But our armchair generals, plus effective ones, flunked the whole thing .... and oh, how easy it is to raise everything at once. I recall the words of one chauffeur that "the war is in Syria and not on our territory ...."
      1. +3
        16 August 2022 18: 11
        Abstractly, of course, all sorts of things are needed, but now the “simplest” ones are specifically lacking, the S-70 is a pig in a poke, a serious device that requires more false maintenance than that Orlan-type UAV, but at the same time both are vulnerable to air defense, maybe S- 70 due to the fact that no pilot can perform anti-missile maneuvers with greater overload, but still the missile defense system will always be easier than a jet UAV.
        Although, of course, if the S-70 were already in service with at least 300-400 units, then of course it would be possible to suppress all air defense in Ukraine with a massive raid. But let's be honest, there will never be such a number in the current economic realities of Russia.
    2. 0
      16 August 2022 20: 57
      Yes, we have a lot of cheap, relatively UAVs for reconnaissance ... Orlan-10, Orlan-30, several thousand have been riveted and they are being built further ...
      S-70 is what aviation will come to, this is a priority direction. Not now, but in the future combat aviation will become unmanned. From turntables, then strategic missile carriers. And this direction must be developed and be a leader in this area ... Unmanned bombers with an adequate bomb load of several tons are very necessary. Bayraktars and their counterparts are not particularly needed in a major conflict. A full-fledged bomber, where there is no risk of losing a highly qualified pilot, is very necessary. And whoever can arrange their release earlier will have a huge advantage.
      1. +2
        16 August 2022 21: 48
        Yes, we have a lot of cheap, relatively UAVs for reconnaissance ... Orlan-10, Orlan-30, several thousand have been riveted and they are being built further ...


        Well, it means that something is wrong with the UAV, since they cannot circle in thousands every day and detect air defense objects.



        S-70 is what aviation will come to, this is a priority direction. Not now, but in the future combat aviation will become unmanned. From turntables, then strategic missile carriers.


        Or maybe it won’t come or it won’t come completely, in the USA the X-45 took off back in 2002. Only even such bombers do not change anything until the air defense is suppressed, they are just as vulnerable.


        And whoever can arrange their release earlier will have a huge advantage.


        If this someone will produce thousands of them, then yes, but well, well, we would have a couple of dozen of them, well, they would also have knocked down air defense.
  12. +3
    16 August 2022 17: 00
    The most important question is this: what about the xy from the 1945 edition?
  13. 0
    16 August 2022 17: 13
    While everything resembles the T-14 ...
  14. +2
    16 August 2022 17: 17
    They also laughed at the cartoons ....
  15. Des
    +1
    16 August 2022 17: 47
    "However, despite the negative forecasts, the S-70 still has to be considered as a potentially dangerous and effective model." .. when at least a thousand of them are released.
    1. +1
      16 August 2022 21: 00
      Not a thousand, at least a hundred brmbers will already be a solid force. For each Su-57, a wingman and plus spare ones to compensate for losses ... About 100 released, 76 deployed. This will be a big deal. If there are several hundred, it's generally fine.
  16. +2
    16 August 2022 18: 07
    Ahem .. just 2 points. First, there are only 2 samples at the moment. The second - production is only PLANNED to start next year. So what are we talking about?) This is somewhat reminiscent of fortune-telling on coffee grounds - the UAV itself does not actually exist yet, if we consider examples of much more significant technology - well, that the Su-57, that the Armata is at least a few years ahead of "Hunter" in performance and promotion in the bureaucratic gut - and where are they now? In the most optimistic case, somewhere on the edge, in the immediate rear, operations are being tested.
    There is reason to believe that the "Hunter" in its real, and not media incarnation, will face the same fate - it will not make it to the NWO. From the fact that he will fly there somewhere on the edge as part of an experimental flight, no one will be able to say anything from the word. At the moment, this product is deeply hypothetical, the bulk of the menial work in the foreseeable future will be performed by the same people who did it.
    I don't see any time trouble for expanding the production of new products. Some are simmering in the direction of the UAV, according to the sensations, it only concerns forcing the release of tested products.

    But even if we play this exciting game of "hypothetics" - well, let's say we have "Hunter". Already. He's not going to throw grenades on the head of nationalists? It needs modern (= expensive and labor-intensive to manufacture) weapons. And the more productive they will be used, the more Massive and Cheaper they will be. Do we have ones that we can do exactly what Massively and Efficiently apply from other platforms? And to make it more effective. There is some quantity and it is used. But will there be a surplus by the time there is "Hunter"? I doubt.
    So, in addition to arranging its release, it is also necessary to establish the release of a range of weapons of destruction - and this is another task, maybe even more abruptly.
    1. -2
      16 August 2022 20: 23
      It has a carrying capacity of 3 to 8 tons according to various data. Speed ​​up to 1400 km/h, ceiling up to 18 km and range up to 6000 km. It can be armed with the same weapons as a regular aircraft. It can solve tasks that conventional drones cannot do.
      1. +3
        16 August 2022 21: 32
        Quote: Vyacheslav Ermolaev
        Speed ​​up to 1400 km/h

        This already specifically says that you have incorrect data.

        The engine without an afterburner, wing span and taillessness says that this is a subsonic aircraft, with an economical flight mode to achieve maximum range and thermal stealth.
    2. -1
      16 August 2022 21: 01
      Well, his means of destruction will be similar to the Su-57, well, except for daggers and long-range air-to-air missiles.
      1. 0
        17 August 2022 11: 43
        similar su-57, well, except for daggers
        What does the dagger aviation missile system have to do with the SU-57.
        1. 0
          31 August 2022 00: 43
          Well, because among the "fighters" only the MiG-31 and Su-57 will be able to use it. Others don't.
          1. 0
            1 September 2022 17: 31
            Well, because among the "fighters" only the MiG-31 and Su-57 will be able to use it.
            No fighters can use it. The Dagger missile, developed on the basis of the Iskander complex missile, can only be used by the MIG-31 converted into its carrier. The rest, plans or REN-TV.
            1. 0
              8 September 2022 09: 04
              Well, for now, yes, but the MiG-31 is a fighter.
              There will also be a modification of the Su-57, which will be able to use a dagger. He is also PAK FA, because on its basis, as at one time on the basis of the T-10 (su 27), a large line of machines of various specializations will be created.
  17. +4
    16 August 2022 19: 12
    Yes, people doubt the possibilities of producing such toys. Life has taught, as well as T14, T15, SU57 and much more that has no analogues.
    1. -3
      16 August 2022 19: 55
      Well, let's assume that there are already combatant SU 57s, but there are a few. But with T14, T15 you can see something is wrong.
    2. -1
      16 August 2022 20: 28
      And what is wrong. Su-57 ordered 76 units with delivery in 2027. 5 pieces have already been put into operation, the T-14 is also in the series from the end of 2021. Unless there is no information on the T-15
  18. +1
    16 August 2022 20: 21
    As the "self-propelled grandfather" Bidon said about the "Zircon" (I do not quote): an ordinary rocket, but which the hell can you intercept? I consider the position of our military-industrial complex to be absolutely correct: not to report the exact characteristics of military products until they begin to be delivered to our troops and navy. We don't need advertising "ala Hollywood": we are not talking about passenger cars, these are weapons.
  19. 0
    17 August 2022 05: 56
    And the year was 2032, and the Hunter was rolled out of the hangar. And rolled back. Hmm, experts thought it was a good thing, and most importantly needed on the Ukrainian front, where the troops of the combined forces stormed Odessa for the third year and advanced in the direction of Sumy, Poltava and Chernigov))
  20. +3
    17 August 2022 08: 25
    Why is his airframe not composite, or at least hybrid ??? Rivets effectively increase the radio transparency and weight of the product, and all the other performance characteristics to a heap ??? And in general, it is extremely similar to the first plywood sample from the exhibition of shaggy years - very much. Maybe invite specialists from Iran? They already have EXPERIENCE in creating such a product and establish the most effective cooperation with them ... if it doesn’t work out with China.
    1. -2
      17 August 2022 11: 20
      Quote: viktor_ui
      Rivets effectively increase the radio transparency and weight of the product, and all the other performance characteristics to a heap ???

      I also paid attention to the rivets. I hope they are at least hidden, and not like on Soviet planes.
  21. 0
    17 August 2022 08: 46
    after all, Moscow has a "tradition" to overestimate the capabilities of its technology.
    Exactly the opposite: it is the Americans who pathologically overestimate the capabilities of their technology.
    In the third photo: wow, a whole K-700 for towing. As if there is a UAV in dimension / weight like the IL-86.
  22. -1
    17 August 2022 17: 05
    Quote from American experts of the magazine "1945" - "... Moscow has a" tradition "to overestimate the capabilities of its technology ..."

    Our performance characteristics have traditionally been underestimated, and because of that they are still deadly, unlike their Vietnam-era equipment, which is now being supplied to "Ukraine".
  23. 0
    17 August 2022 17: 07
    As you can see from the photos, the AL-41F also has unnecessary pressurized combustion chambers.

    According to previous reports, even if everything goes well, the Russian Ministry of Defense will only start receiving drones of this series from 2024. It will be in two years.
  24. -2
    17 August 2022 17: 38
    Believe in the "hunter". Some doubted the Su 57, but there are already several of them in service and Okhotnik will also be there
    1. 0
      17 August 2022 18: 17
      Where exactly"?
      Su-57 is a crude and unfinished project. 10 years from the first flight to serial assembly! 10 years! Do you understand that this Su-57 has not yet received a regular engine? The plane is not ready.
      Those responsible for such delays must be judged.
      1. +1
        17 August 2022 19: 08
        The F22 took 15 years from test flight to service, including time spent on development, test flights, data collection, weapons testing, etc.

        If you want to speed up the process, the only option is to build multiple prototypes at the same time and test different items at the same time. This will lead to high costs.
  25. 0
    17 August 2022 18: 12
    1945 Suggests Western Military Shouldn't Panic

    Why should Americans be afraid of some kind of UAV with unclear characteristics? Yes, and with the assembly speed of 1 device in 2 years.
  26. 0
    18 August 2022 08: 17
    key phrase:
    If the “Russian boasting” has real grounds

    and she has nothing to say
  27. +1
    19 August 2022 00: 18
    In addition, it must be distinguished by high weighty perfection.

    I wonder what the author of the article wanted to say with these words?
    And as for the "Hunter", this is another armata. For parades. Exhibitions. Not for war. So I don't see any reason to discuss it.
  28. +1
    19 August 2022 13: 15
    There are some very controversial articles on this site. But if I don't like it, it's not a fact that people shouldn't express their opinion. And in this article, 80% retelling with distortion and 20% citing Wikipedia. Copypaste in the cold!
  29. 0
    19 August 2022 22: 56
    For whom they write this crap about this miracle
  30. 0
    20 August 2022 16: 49
    Wingspan - more than on the Su57. No one really knows anything about stealth on the radar. Perhaps he will come to fight against the Basmachi, armed with AKM and 12.6 mm on tracks. In the context of the presence of an air defense enemy, everything is far from being so simple. Well, again, about the control system with the Su57. It's also unclear. How can one pilot fly two aircraft? If the whole world (including the United States, which is 25-30 years ahead in these developments) follows the UAV control scheme by the operator from the ground
  31. -1
    20 August 2022 16: 54
    Why is it needed? What is its main purpose?
  32. 0
    22 August 2022 02: 22
    there is no point in testing prototypes during the SVO, because the RF Armed Forces can simulate any capabilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, all the equipment is available. NATO EW systems and modern air defense systems in Ukraine are absent, or of old generations.
  33. 0
    22 September 2022 20: 54
    When this "papelats" appears at the front and shows itself, then we will brag.
  34. 0
    2 October 2022 19: 03
    Enough to be led by these pictures, now IF they appear in the troops, then we’ll say that well done, but for now it’s all blah blah. They will do one and talk for 1000. One lie around.

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