Estonian Defense Ministry proposes to Finland to create a unified coastal defense against Russia

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Countries located on opposite shores of the Gulf of Finland, Finland and Estonia, are negotiating to combine coastal defense systems so that, if necessary, the Gulf of Finland can be closed to Russian warships.

Estonian Defense Minister Hanno Pevkur said this, Finnish newspaper Iltalehti writes.



According to Pevkur, the missiles in service with the two countries have a range that exceeds the width of the Gulf of Finland, so the countries need to integrate their coastal defense missile systems.

The head of the Estonian defense department said that the parties would share all information among themselves. He also noted that in this way it will be possible to close the Gulf of Finland for the ships of the Russian Navy.

Pevkur added that the Baltic Sea would soon become NATO's inland sea, as it would include Finland and Sweden. After this takes place, a new Estonian defense plan will be developed, together with other NATO countries in the region.

It should be reminded that on July 5 this year in Brussels, the member countries of the alliance and representatives of Sweden and Finland signed preliminary agreements on the entry of these states into the alliance.

After the start of the Cold War, these countries remained neutral, not joining military-political blocs. Russia noted that the admission of new members to NATO would not remain without a response from Moscow.
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    1. +3
      13 August 2022 17: 08
      According to Pevkur, the missiles in service with the two countries have a flight range that exceeds the width of the Gulf of Finland, so the countries need to integrate their coastal defense missile systems.

      Just twitch, amerskie mongrel!
      1. +5
        13 August 2022 17: 23
        You overslept a bit. While Estonia waits for its innovative BlueSpears from Israel

        They have several NSM batteries in temporary use.


        The Finns have anti-ship missiles from Sweden in all sizes. Main caliber RBS-15.


        Therefore, they actually have opportunities even without new orders. About new orders. The MoD and procurement committees throughout the EU have not dried up since March, and Pérignon and Bolange are whipping, because they have not seen so much money since the Cold War.
        1. 0
          13 August 2022 17: 40
          The Baltic Fleet is in the most cramped circumstances for a number of reasons, including geographical and political.
          Obviously, its composition needs to be replenished and updated based on specific regional conditions.
          Maybe we need to return to the retro concept of an underwater minelayer?
          1. -1
            13 August 2022 18: 24
            Quote: Flood
            Maybe we need to return to the retro concept of an underwater minelayer?

            Why retro? There was a proposal and not at all retro at all, even in 2015 an underwater universal drone, which could also be a mine layer (through torpedo tubes). Dmitry Rogozin, brilliant efficient manager, hacked to death. As many here believe: the giraffe is big ...
            1. 0
              13 August 2022 21: 10
              and he has not yet been hung by the lip for the murder of the industry? Or did Uncle Vova become too kind in his old age?
              1. -1
                13 August 2022 21: 32
                Quote: Sadok
                and he has not yet been hung by the lip for the murder of the industry?

                What industry? He then commanded the entire defense industry (including Roskosmos and much more). He was chairman of a dozen state commissions. This one later, in 2018, he was exiled to Roscosmos. So he managed to become famous there only by the construction of a tower in Moscow directed into space, and excursions for someone's actresses. Now they don't know what to do with it. And they don’t want to appoint, and it’s a pity to quit.
          2. +1
            13 August 2022 21: 32
            Quote: Flood
            The Baltic Fleet is in the most cramped circumstances for a number of reasons, including geographical and political.
            Obviously, its composition needs to be replenished and updated based on specific regional conditions.

            In modern realities, the KBF has covered itself ... but what can you fantasize about. You can at least downvote, but look at the map. In real combat operations, he will not be allowed to leave the Gulf of Finland. You can safely send ships to other theaters, leaving boats, coastal anti-ship missiles and aviation hi
            1. +1
              13 August 2022 21: 39
              Quote: Adrey
              You can at least downvote, but look at the map.

              We'll definately put it down.
              But then.
              The Baltic has become a trap for the Russian fleet.
              Therefore, it makes no sense to compete with NATO on their terms.
              We need to adapt to the situation and create new threats for the enemy in the Baltic theater.
              1. -3
                13 August 2022 21: 46
                Quote: Flood
                The Baltic has become a trap for the Russian fleet.

                Well, what's the point of sitting in a trap?
                Quote: Flood
                Therefore, it makes no sense to compete with NATO on their terms.

                Certainly.
                Quote: Flood
                We need to adapt to the situation and create new threats for the enemy in the Baltic theater.

                At this theater, the scenario of the Germans in WWII is quite suitable. Everything was done from the sushi side. The fleet took a negligible part in their operations.
      2. +2
        13 August 2022 19: 07
        Yes, no need to be nervous, the current Minister of Defense is a member of one of the national parties of Estonia, moreover, he apparently overheated in the sun, hence such unbalanced rhetoric, nothing more lol lol lol laughing unfortunately now there is a similar trend in foreign policy wink
      3. Zug
        0
        14 August 2022 07: 14
        What will you do?
    2. +6
      13 August 2022 17: 11
      I wonder how they will howl when we put an additional four divisional Iskander brigade against them.
      1. +5
        13 August 2022 17: 15
        Quote: tralflot1832
        I wonder how they will howl when we put an additional four divisional Iskander brigade against them.

        Cancel trips to St. Petersburg to the Finns, they will howl even louder! They thought that the Baltic Sea belongs only to them! It would be time not only in words, but in reality to give an answer !!!
        1. +5
          13 August 2022 17: 20
          The Finns themselves cut the Russian alcoholic bitch on which they sit.
          1. +2
            13 August 2022 18: 24
            no one cuts anything, everything is within the framework of international law
            It's about a narrowness of 36 km in the Gulf of Finland between Estonia and Finland
            territorial waters are 22 km from the coast
            22 + 22 = 44 - and there 36 km
            declare war on Finland or Estonia or NWO - they will close their territorial waters
            1. +1
              13 August 2022 18: 35
              There will be time, we will announce laughing
            2. +1
              13 August 2022 19: 07
              Here they wrote a sensible comment and immediately put a minus. This shows one thing that people gathered at VO who can only write "Urya", otherwise, alas, there is not enough mind to delve into the problem.
              1. +3
                13 August 2022 19: 16
                Quote: Shiden
                Here they wrote a sensible comment and immediately put a minus.

                And you re-read this "sensible" comment again. It is absurd in its essence.
            3. +1
              14 August 2022 10: 22
              Quote: Romario_Argo
              no one cuts anything, everything is within the framework of international law
              It's about a narrowness of 36 km in the Gulf of Finland between Estonia and Finland
              territorial waters are 22 km from the coast
              22 + 22 = 44 - and there 36 km
              declare war on Finland or Estonia or NWO - they will close their territorial waters

              Under the 1994 agreement, Estonia and Finland have already established territorial waters in the Gulf of Finland with a corridor of neutral waters. Even if by some miracle they revise this treaty, under the 1982 UN convention they are obliged to ensure freedom of navigation, including for our warships. We don't need to declare war on them. But if they close the bay, this is a declaration of war without NATO's right to collective defense. The Estonian minister is talking nonsense - well, they will install anti-ship missiles, then what? Will they really fight? The territory of Estonia is just as thoroughly amazed by the hummingbirds and the Bastions of the Baltic Fleet. I am silent about the Iskanders.
              1. -1
                14 August 2022 10: 35

                the Tribalts to power soon as a result of the state. coups will come - red
                we will soon be happy
          2. +1
            13 August 2022 18: 34
            Dissolve all the wood that was driven into the finca into sawdust, distill the sawdust into alcohol and throw it to the Chukhons. The Finns will thump until the middle of the century, let alone make a missile attack - they won’t be able to say meow, and the Astins will try to comprehend what happened until the middle of the century, but even this time with their speed of thought processes may not be enough.
            1. +2
              13 August 2022 18: 42
              We simply transfer gas stations on the border with Finland from gasoline to alcohol, and that's all. We are waiting for the result.
            2. Zug
              +1
              14 August 2022 07: 27
              So that we are covered with sawdust in Karelia?))) Lumberyards are full of logs, there is nowhere to send them. Our forestry operators rushed to cut the Far Eastern forests. There is nothing more to do here)))
        2. +1
          14 August 2022 11: 46
          Yes, while the Finns of St. Petersburg voyages on gamazins are cut and the clothes they bought are confiscated.
      2. 0
        14 August 2022 23: 11
        I wonder how they will howl when we put an additional four divisional Iskander brigade against them.


        And there is nothing to guess - the Balts will probably rush for help to the United States, and they will most likely place their operational-tactical missiles with them. At the same time, alas, from the Estonian border to Moscow is less than 900 km.

        There will just be a resumption of the arms race, everything is like in the 80s.
        Only before NATO was opposed by the USSR plus the Department of Internal Affairs, and now Russia alone. And NATO is now 14 countries more than in 1985.
    3. +3
      13 August 2022 17: 11
      Something Latvia is shy.
      Lithuania blocks Kaliningrad.
      Estonia - Gulf of Finland.
      Latvia takes Pskov?
      1. +1
        13 August 2022 17: 59
        Get devoured, bastards - but in the near future))
      2. 0
        13 August 2022 18: 34
        the entire army of Tribalts in the SV is 5000 people
        from the West, the 6th Army will take control of Estonia within a week of their NE 2000 people.
        Latvia SV 1000 people - another week for units of the 1st Tank Army
        Lithuania SV 2000 people - the western corps of Belarus and 11 AK from Kaliningrad - also in a week
        1. +1
          13 August 2022 18: 39
          Quote: Romario_Argo
          the entire army of Tribalts in the SV is 5000 people
          from the West, the 6th Army will take control of Estonia within a week of their NE 2000 people.
          Latvia SV 1000 people - another week for units of the 1st Tank Army
          Lithuania SV 2000 people - the western corps of Belarus and 11 AK from Kaliningrad - also in a week

          There is no doubt about that.
          If you do not take into account the contingent of NATO countries and the status of the Baltic member states.
          And if an appropriate decision is made at the top.
          But it would be more correct to take care of asymmetric methods of influence that would sober up the neighbors and cool their ardor, without leading to a war with NATO.
          1. 0
            13 August 2022 18: 47
            do not take into account the contingent of NATO countries and the status of the Baltic member states

            namely, do not pay attention to any scribbling at all
            the Tribalts start having problems with the opposition - the communists were driven underground
            no matter how the red terror begins - NATO definitely doesn’t need such problems
        2. -1
          13 August 2022 20: 27
          The Astins are nothing at all: "SV - 2 motorized infantry brigades (and the 2nd consists of only 1 battalion) and a guard battalion of the military police, the Air Force - 4 helicopters and 4 transport aircraft, the Navy - 3 minesweepers and 2 control ships. Another 4 helicopters and 3 aircraft are in service with the Estonian Coast Guard"
          Litvins are more serious, but not particularly, “Zhemaitija” and the mechanized brigade “Iron Wolf”, to be denazified in the first place.
      3. 0
        13 August 2022 20: 30
        Quote: Flood
        Something Latvia is shy.
        Lithuania blocks Kaliningrad.
        Estonia - Gulf of Finland.
        Latvia takes Pskov?

        Latvia has legally declared the Russian Federation as a state sponsor of terrorism.
        https://www.rbc.ru/politics/11/08/2022/62f4c1f19a7947b5648d26fe
        Nothing is shy!
        1. 0
          13 August 2022 20: 37
          Quote: Sofkar
          Latvia has legally declared the Russian Federation as a state sponsor of terrorism.
          https://www.rbc.ru/politics/11/08/2022/62f4c1f19a7947b5648d26fe
          Nothing is shy!

          Exactly!
          Thank you for reminding me.
          Latvia does not lag behind the Baltic trend.
    4. 0
      13 August 2022 17: 18
      Why do they need it? And why is transit through the territory of the Russian Federation to limitrophs not closed yet?
    5. +2
      13 August 2022 17: 20
      Countries located on opposite shores of the Gulf of Finland, Finland and Estonia, are negotiating to combine coastal defense systems so that, if necessary, the Gulf of Finland can be closed to Russian warships.

      Let them guess which of them, if the plans are implemented, will be the first to lose statehood.
    6. IVZ
      +4
      13 August 2022 17: 22
      According to Pevkur, the missiles in service with the two countries have a range that exceeds the width of the Gulf of Finland,

      Interestingly, did they calculate their own distance from almost any means of destruction of the Russian Federation? Or membership in a military bloc saves from death all the idiots who do not live in peace and quiet?
    7. +5
      13 August 2022 17: 28
      the territories of both Estonia and Finns are being shot through from the territory of the Russian Federation and the question is - why the heck is a goat button accordion?
    8. GNM
      +5
      13 August 2022 17: 49
      Finland and Estonia are negotiating the unification of coastal defense systems


      1. +1
        13 August 2022 18: 03
        Cool countries! They will also show Rossi "Kuzkin's mother"))
        1. GNM
          0
          13 August 2022 18: 09
          Russia noted that the admission of new members to NATO would not remain without a response from Moscow.

          Russia, just like in the video, will slam on the table and growl: "Shush!" - and that's it, giants under the bench and silence!
      2. 0
        13 August 2022 19: 23
        Finns are stupid, and Estonians are not distant. A third of our icebreaking fleet is being built in Finland. Just let them present the size of our orders.
        The loss of these is just zviizdets. Finkka will die permanently very quickly
        1. KCA
          0
          13 August 2022 21: 36
          They were building, now, so far, nothing, they are drooling for Norilsk Nickel to build, but, apparently, they will get a penis in the nose
    9. 0
      13 August 2022 18: 01
      So they ask for a nuclear bomb right to their empty kumpol.
    10. +2
      13 August 2022 18: 03
      Estonian Defense Ministry proposes to Finland to create a unified coastal defense against Russia
      . No, no, no one can teach history there!
      It will be worse for them.
    11. +1
      13 August 2022 18: 06
      They say. Hot Estonian guys want to dig a tunnel under the Gulf of Finland, but something is stopping them, and it's creepy. Takes right out of corners. Have you tried enrolling in a dance studio?
    12. +1
      13 August 2022 18: 13
      Estonian Defense Ministry proposes to Finland to create a unified coastal defense against Russia
      A comprehensive solution is powerful. That's just, if one partner collapses, then the second one will have a super hole in the defense. feel
    13. +2
      13 August 2022 18: 18
      Through with this Estonian, hot guy, but why do Finns need it. It is clear that the current political elite in Finland is a product of the liberal-fascist supranational elite, but should common sense remain at least in some way? The Finns, 70 years old, successfully received preferences, being at the junction of systems. Everyone thought that the systems were, in fact, between Russia and the West. The Finnish government has decided to equalize itself with Estonia? Yes, for God's sake, it will. For the Finns, these are difficult times. With all due respect to past merits (real socialism), the Finns will not pull out the current situation. The level of education in Finland is somewhere between a very poor vocational school and a parochial school, and in favor of the latter, but with an LGBT bias.
      For Finland, this is a road to nowhere. Ahead is degradation because the Finns have no resources left to give the country a breakthrough.
      Tourism, mechanical engineering, energy, shipbuilding, and partly agriculture in Finland were quite seriously tied to the Russian market, and historically. What can replace it, especially in a recession and fierce competition?
      1. IVZ
        0
        13 August 2022 18: 40
        Have the Finns already agreed?
        1. +2
          13 August 2022 19: 21
          Who asks them? They've already sold out.
    14. 0
      13 August 2022 19: 20
      The threat to the Baltic Fleet has already been created both from the territory of Estonia and Finland. As a result of the war, it should be eliminated.
      1. 0
        13 August 2022 19: 47
        The Baltic Fleet is a problem. the solution of which was prompted by two previous wars. The Baltic has become NATO territory and it must be completely mined, since the depths allow for modern means. Under such a task, it is necessary to prepare the fleet and the Air Force.
        1. +1
          13 August 2022 23: 09
          The Baltic is a water area, not a territory. NATO is not a state. The sea cannot be NATO's inland sea. Such an announcement means a veiled annexation of Kaliningrad.
    15. 0
      13 August 2022 19: 55
      Haberdasher and "cardinal" great power ...
    16. 0
      13 August 2022 20: 38
      If traitors from the leadership, at one time, because of their mediocrity and venality, allowed this state of affairs, now they are on the rights of a strong one, that is. there are all favorable conditions for this, it is necessary to eliminate these sources of threats and irritants in the territories of the Republic of Ingushetia for all time. So that memories from this stupidity and crime, like the distribution of territories and the creation of some kind of mythical state formations, remain only in legends and fairy tales. And never again did hotbeds of Russophobia and hostility arise on the territory of our country, i.b. at the request and wishes of the Anglo-Saxons. Over the ocean they will shout for two days and calm down, there their problems are higher than the roof, tb. notorious 5 tbsp. does not at all imply the beginning of a b / d, support can also be provided with an angry speech anywhere at a rally. By the way, why are the flags of these misunderstandings, such as states, flying in Moscow over some buildings under the names of the embassy?
    17. +2
      13 August 2022 20: 44
      Quote: Corrosion_Inhibitor
      So they ask for a nuclear bomb right to their empty kumpol.

      A bomb or a missile is now worth more than all this shortfall, i.e. it is not prudent to pollute with radionuclides their national territories returned to their "native harbour"
    18. +2
      13 August 2022 22: 10
      Nothing has begun yet, but the Baltic Fleet is already being buried, DBBLD
      1. 0
        14 August 2022 14: 13
        Began. Sleep on.
    19. 0
      13 August 2022 22: 26
      If necessary, and across the land border, we will sweep away the hordes of the Emolaut troops! (((
    20. 0
      13 August 2022 22: 29
      There is a saying that says that every pig gets its own San Martin. Soon the little Baltic fleas will realize that it is inconvenient to challenge such a colossus as Russia.
    21. -2
      14 August 2022 18: 44
      The unhurried Estonians are slowly lowering their tail on Russia and the Baltic Fleet.
    22. 0
      14 August 2022 23: 02
      One can only state that on Monday their mother gave birth. And the Finns on Tuesday.

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