New Bulgarian arms supplies to Georgia

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The UN Conventional Arms Register website (www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/Register) has added another portion of the Register’s report to the UN Secretary-General. It includes eight regular national country reports to the UN Register of Conventional Arms for 2011 a year. Earlier we reported the appearance of the first 28 national reports for 2011 year there.

Of the eight countries whose reports are published in this case, only reports from Bulgaria, China, Romania and Sweden may be of interest.

The most attention is drawn to the report of Bulgaria, which declared the delivery of 2011 howitzer of 12 mm to Georgia in 122 year to Georgia. At the same time, the receipt of howitzers of this caliber from the Czech Republic is indicated by the 23. According to the Czech report, the transferred howitzers to Bulgaria were the self-propelled artillery systems 2C1 "Carnation". Thus, apparently, the specified SAU 2C1 were delivered to Bulgaria from the Czech Republic specifically for re-export to Georgia, and in Bulgaria, they probably underwent pre-sale repairs. Recall that earlier Bulgaria had mass production of howitzers 2C1 under the Soviet license at the BETA engineering plant (now JSC "Beta Industri Corp.") in Cherven Bryag, and the repair of 2С1 is carried out by the Bulgarian tank repair plant "TEREM-Khan Krum" EOOD in Targovishte.

The self-propelled howitzer 2C1 had not previously been in service with the Georgian army, and installations from Bulgaria were first demonstrated at the military parade 26 of May 2012 of the year in Kutaisi (which was noted in our blog).

In addition, in its report to the UN Register, Bulgaria indicated the delivery of 2011 automatic rifles, 1500 light machine guns and 450 disposable RPG-600 to Georgia in the 22 year.

Of the other Bulgarian supplies in 2011, it is possible to note the shipment of a large batch of small weapons India (70565 machine guns and 815 grenade launchers), as well as active trade in 73-mm LNG-9 anti-tank grenade launchers (261 unit shipped to Afghanistan, 20 Tajikistan, 15 Mali and 12 Burkina Faso).

New Bulgarian arms supplies to Georgia

122-mm self-propelled howitzer 2C1 "Carnation" of the Georgian army at a military parade in Kutaisi 26 May 2012 of the year. The ACS is apparently one of the 12 systems of this type, supplied to Georgia by Bulgaria in the 2011 year.
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  1. +19
    16 October 2012 11: 03
    here's your "brothers". I understand that business is business, but not so much to forget, but even to deny the buckets of Russian blood shed for Bulgaria ...
    1. Mikado
      +13
      16 October 2012 11: 15
      Brothers and remained, it's not the people who sell weapons. And with the government they really have a problem that in the PM, in the VM, everyone fought against us, now they are sitting in NATO.
      1. +23
        16 October 2012 11: 51
        Mikado
        And that the people are not worthy of their own. him the same government?
        And did the government commit genocide to the Bulgarian people?
        So let's urgently save Bulgaria again, once again we will spill rivers of blood, but what will we achieve?
        Russia had, is and will only have two faithful, loyal, and irreplaceable allies — the army and navy. (I did not say!)
        EVERYTHING!!!
        All other "allies and brothers" are suckers of our financial resources, natural resources, changing their political orientation and color based on the changing political environment ...
        Today is yours, tomorrow is ours ... prostitutes ...
        1. 11Goor11
          +5
          16 October 2012 12: 17
          подводник
          And that the people are not worthy of their own. him the same government?

          Do you believe in fair elections? True democracy?
          The masses of the people easily succumb to puppeteers. Then they bitterly regret. In the 80s, they diligently explained to us that all our historical heroes are in fact "disgusting criminals." That was a blow in the stomach. Authoritatively explained so and no alternative. Although there was an alternative - to believe what was previously believed, but who already believed? Destroyed the country with our approval. Now let's bite our elbows!
          And the question is: are we worthy of all this? Probably yes, it was necessary to take care of what you have, but on the other hand, someone asked us whether to bring down the country or not? Somewhere there they made a decision - FELL, and create for this an appropriate public opinion.
          And the Bulgarians were generally aloof from these processes, they were thrown into the cold river like kittens.
          1. +2
            16 October 2012 12: 21
            11Goor11
            So let's save them, give a lot of money and kiss in ...
            I remember the 80s ... I did not believe ...
            1. 11Goor11
              +2
              16 October 2012 14: 59
              подводник
              I remember the 80s ... I did not believe ...

              I also did not believe many lies. When Ukraine was separated, I served urgent in Kamchatka. And he returned to a torn country
              And voted against the current gangsters. But ... alas.
              There are more than two philosophical points of view on this subject who are responsible for what happens to states and peoples. There are also socio-cultural trends that push politicians out of their midst at the right time (they say there would be no Hitler, there was another leader with the same goals),
              as well as the completely contradicting idea that nations are an easily suggested mass that will follow any competent (knowing HOW to set up) leaders,
              (there are others, I will not bore)
              But in any case, if you say that ALL of them are to blame, then this is yours private opinion at least somethink differently.
              1. +2
                16 October 2012 17: 29
                And I was in autonomy (military campaign)
                He left the USSR, came to Russia ...
                1. 11Goor11
                  +1
                  16 October 2012 19: 44
                  Time flies fast, right? smile
                  1. +1
                    16 October 2012 20: 19
                    Yes, it turns out we are fellow soldiers ....
                    Kamchatka-Murmansk-there is something ................
                2. wow
                  +1
                  16 October 2012 21: 19
                  And I, in the summer of 91, commanded a "virgin" company in the Kustanai region of the Kazakh SSR.
                  1. 0
                    16 October 2012 21: 25
                    I have not been there ...
        2. Mikado
          +2
          16 October 2012 12: 38
          Quote: submariner
          And that the people are not worthy of their own. him the same government?


          We know how these "elections" are held. Moreover, it is unlikely that the Bulgarians elected their kings, who dragged them into WWI and WWII.

          Quote: submariner
          So let's urgently save Bulgaria again, once again we will spill rivers of blood, but what will we achieve?


          It's time, just leave there will not be. Make sure that all muck in power does not crawl

          Quote: submariner
          Russia had, is and will only have two faithful, loyal, and irreplaceable allies — the army and navy. (I did not say!)


          And the Air Force is not an ally, no?)
          1. +1
            16 October 2012 12: 50
            He quoted Alexander 3;))) then the Air Force was not there.
            Russia has only two allies: its army and navy
            1. Mikado
              +1
              16 October 2012 15: 10
              Well, it's time to "modernize" this phrase))
              1. +1
                16 October 2012 17: 06
                good drinks it remains to find a new Alexander 3 ... wink
        3. +3
          16 October 2012 14: 03
          Do you believe in the election? Welcome 2 Ukraine and your faith will weaken))
        4. 0
          16 October 2012 17: 02
          + 1000 % drinks I agree completely !!!
        5. mnn_12
          +2
          16 October 2012 20: 14
          And that the people are not worthy of their own. him the same government?

          So do not have a respected submariner. Who chose Mikhail Sergeyevich and Boris Nikolaevich?

          All other "allies and brothers" are suckers of our financial resources, natural resources, changing their political orientation and color based on the changing political environment ...


          Speak like a CIA agent. So thought Mikhail Sergeyevich. He betrayed threw friends from eastern Europe but this did not help solve neither economic problems nor Russia was left calmly living. On the contrary, they tried to destroy Russia itself and these attempts continue now. For treason, no one is respected ...
          1. 0
            16 October 2012 20: 28
            Just do not teach me how to live !!!
            We did not choose Mikhail, they gave him to us!
            EBNa selected from the United States ..
            And grief we gulped down the drain !!!! How many Bulgaria did not see the sea !!!
            So Russia left you ....
            Do we need another thousand years to run after you with diapers ??? !!!
            "Speak like a CIA agent ......" - would cut your tongue !!!
            Your love Russia is not needed, because your love is fundamentally false and corrupt !!!
            Russia needs to simply not be betrayed !!!
            That's all Russia needs from YOU !!!
            1. mnn_12
              0
              16 October 2012 22: 08
              Dear submariner,
              Please do not say on behalf of Russia, you are not Russia. What Russia needs and what not, you won’t decide. And whoever defended EBNA and who chose him is known to everyone except you, the United States could only help here.
              And who sold whom and for how much, this is clear to every thinking person. This is a historical fact. And whether you recognize the ego or not - it remains only your personal problems.
              1. +1
                16 October 2012 22: 16
                Once again I say, do not teach me how to live !!!
                I speak as I can, for Russia for the Country. For ALL !!!
                And you answer for Bulgaria !!!
                For how quickly did we sell you ??? [/ b
                1. mnn_12
                  0
                  16 October 2012 22: 44
                  He doesn’t teach, but I won’t leave it recklessly saying the stupidities of an obvious agent provocateur!
              2. tekinoral
                0
                16 October 2012 22: 29
                fellow countryman, they apart from the Serbs in the Balkans love nobody, so do not pay attention hi
      2. mongoose
        +5
        16 October 2012 12: 04
        Yeah, in World War 2, they fought against the Russians, and remained brother?
        1. mnn_12
          -1
          16 October 2012 22: 31
          Bulgaria did not fight the USSR. read stories ...
      3. +6
        16 October 2012 12: 17
        Mikado
        Dear, read the latest press in 2-3 weeks. You will find out a lot of interesting things, namely that they (the Bulgarian) Prime Minister promised to arrange Putin during his State Visit to Bulgaria very much HOT the reception that he is (Putin) FOR LONG TIME And all because our ATOMSTROY billed the Bulgarians an amount of 1000000000 doral for the work done and the penalty for the gigantic efforts spent during the construction of the Belene nuclear power plant, which Bulgaria refused after a request from Washington
        Well, how to forgive everything again ... BROTHERS?

        The presidential press service said that in the schedule for Putin’s visit to Bulgaria in the near future NO
      4. 0
        16 October 2012 15: 03
        but in the government, that Czechs or Poles.
      5. mnn_12
        0
        16 October 2012 21: 01
        Dear Mikado,
        Learn more history. So you will find out on which side Bulgaria fought in the Second World War and how many victims it gave. There you will learn how Bulgaria ended up on the side of the Habsburgs in the First World War.
        I do not understand how it is possible that people who do not know the history of the Second World War write on this patriotic site. Or is it not illiteracy, but a completely conscious falsification, which is repeated thousands of times with hope turning into truth?
        You are outraged when Japanese schoolchildren are taught that the USSR burned Giroshima and Nagasaki, or when they put Stalingrad and the Kursk Bulge and Al Alamein on the same level as events determining the outcome of World War II ...? And there are no problems at the same time shamelessly claim that Bulgaria fought against the USSR?
        On NATO membership - is it necessary to be reminded who betrayed and abandoned friends from eastern Europe? Do I need to be reminded where he lives now and who pays him money for treason? Do I need to be reminded who organized the election of the next traitor?
        Very easy to blame small Bulgaria for one or the other. It’s much harder to look at the traitors in their own ranks. They are acting now ...
        1. +1
          16 October 2012 21: 11
          mnn_12
          It’s hard to stand up against the strong, hard, but you can ...
          Regarding the fact that Russia left you .... When will you finally become Independent State ???
          Regarding the participation of Bulgaria in World War II, we turn to the archives ...
          ... "Bulgaria supplied Germany with raw materials and foodstuffs in the amount of 85 billion levs, which was several times EXCEEDED THE VOLUME OF ITS STATE BUDGET ,,,"
          Who fed the Fascists ???
          1. mnn_12
            +3
            16 October 2012 22: 26
            Dear Submariner,
            It feeds one thing and another fights. If this is the case, then your peasants did not feed the aggressor? Or does this truth very unfavorably remember?
            They were able to say how many products the Nazis delivered and why not tell how much they gave the Red Army? Why not tell me how many Bulgarian soldiers died? How was their return estimated by Marshal Tolbukhin himself in the reflection of the last most macho fascist offensive?
            Respect the heroism and feelings of the surviving veterans. Respect the memory of fallen heroes.
            I don’t understand how low a person can be to treat such people with such cynicism and arogatism.
            And our peoples will be together again. And neither Anglo-Saxon intrigue, nor their Russian agent provocateurs, nor pathological Bulgarianophobia of individuals will prevent this!
            1. tekinoral
              0
              16 October 2012 22: 32
              Together, it’s already hard for you to live, Zhivkov has long died
              1. mnn_12
                0
                19 October 2012 00: 25
                Yes, a lot has changed ...
            2. 0
              16 October 2012 22: 59
              Remember !!
              There is no pathology to the Bulgarians, where is it from ???
              So we fed the invaders no less than you? -Let the facts !!
              How many Bulgarian soldiers died? Where? when?
              I don’t know about our peoples, but we definitely won’t feed the passengers !!!
              Grow up !!!
              1. mnn_12
                0
                16 October 2012 23: 56
                ...where is she from???

                I don’t know where she is from, you say. A tendentious and selective selection of facts and silence of the most significant moments of history in you is an indisputable fact for every unbiased person.
                So we fed the invaders no less than you? -Let the facts !!

                Facts but this site itself. Read more - est article here. Speak a lot and read very little ...
                How many Bulgarian soldiers died? Where? when?

                Read and learn. Here are quite competent people who could help you. I have neither the time nor the desire to fill the holes in the education of a person capable of defiling the memory of fallen heroes and the feelings of veterans. For a pathological Bulgarianophobic like you, it does not matter what I say or what facts I bring. Can Brzhezhynsky turn from a cave Russophobe into something else?
                I don’t know about our peoples, but we definitely won’t feed the passengers !!!

                You don’t feed for a long time. The problems are different, but it will not make sense to discuss it personally with you ...
        2. 0
          18 October 2012 12: 48
          [quote = mnn_12] Learn more history. So you will find out on which side Bulgaria fought in the Second World War and how many victims it gave.
          It is strange that you did not demand an occupation zone for Bulgaria in the defeated Berlin, as a country "victorious."
          The issue is not that Bulgaria supplies weapons to other countries, it is the right of any country to ship weapons legally, the fact is that the Bulgarians do not have the right to produce these weapons, i.e. no license to issue. What causes the economic damage to Russia.
          1. mnn_12
            0
            18 October 2012 21: 20
            It is strange that you did not demand an occupation zone for Bulgaria in the defeated Berlin, as a country "victorious."

            Say simply humanly - I was mistaken, sorry for what. Cynicism and irony do not help here. Poland also helped the Red Army, but it also does not have the Berlin zone.
            And how licensed one or the other weapons for production in Bulgaria I do not know e nor competent in these matters. Violations and ests are possible, but this in no case excuses you from falsifying history, desecrating the memory of dead heroes and treating war veterans with contempt!
    2. +22
      16 October 2012 11: 17
      Respected andrei332809
      Here on the site often before there was one Bulgarian under the nickname Warrior
      So, he would have already explained to you that we are not brothers, and that Rasseya still owes the coffin to Bulgaria
      And the fact that this state, which became a state only after the rivers of Russian blood, fought against RUSSIA and the USSR in two World Wars, is primarily the fault of the Russians themselves, and not of the deeply civilized Bulgarians.
      Prostitutes, not bros ........... they are already the third time on the side of the enemy (in NATO)
      Was TsAR ALEXANDER right?
      1. 0
        16 October 2012 11: 25
        Quote: submariner
        Dear andrei332809

        Greetings. this is what and how to understand?
        with respect
        1. +3
          16 October 2012 11: 29
          Best regards !
          These little brothers just annoy me ...
          1. 0
            16 October 2012 11: 31
            submariner
            Now I understand. And then there was no comment text
          2. Mikado
            +3
            16 October 2012 11: 34
            By some one fool to judge all the people? I know Bulgarians who have defended and defended the Alyosha monument for a decade.
            1. 0
              16 October 2012 12: 58
              And let me ask, from whom did they save this monument, their honor and praise, from newcomers Americans or Europeans, from the same citizens of Bulgaria who decided at once that the Russians were invaders for them.
              And if someone else doubts read the document:
              "Communication of the Russian government in connection with the severance of diplomatic relations with Bulgaria on October 7/20, 1915" as if they wrote yesterday.
              1. mnn_12
                0
                17 October 2012 01: 39
                And let me ask, from whom did they save this monument, their honor and praise, from alien Americans or Europeans

                Yes, from the amers, their European allies and their Bulgarian puppets. Monuments won (this is not only Alyosha but many others) primarily because the overwhelming majority of the people, led by war veterans, resolutely stood up for their preservation. They are now not only saved but also updated. These are facts that neither cave Russian Bulgarianophobes nor Western Russophobes and their Bulgarian puppets can dispute.
              2. Mikado
                0
                17 October 2012 14: 01
                Quote: Havoc
                And let me ask, from whom did they save this monument


                Duc, incidentally, was saved from individual units that were seated in governments and single-handedly made decisions about demolition.
          3. mnn_12
            0
            16 October 2012 22: 39
            Very annoying? And they took to the fleet ...?
      2. AIvanA
        +3
        16 October 2012 11: 58
        I absolutely support you, the Bulgarians in all wars were on the side of the opponents of Russia-the USSR, and the little brothers become only when the rooster starts to peck in one place, and this is worse than the eternal enemies of Russia, the Poles, and they make nasty things out of the blue.
        1. 0
          16 October 2012 18: 13
          All this is so. But in World War II (for the First I don’t know) not a single Bulgarian soldier was on the Eastern Front.
          1. 0
            16 October 2012 18: 55
            Quote: Black Colonel
            All this is so. But in World War II (for the First I don’t know) not a single Bulgarian soldier was on the Eastern Front.

            Where did they come from? Bulgaria was an ally of Germany.
          2. mnn_12
            0
            16 October 2012 22: 53
            Dear colonel, the overwhelming majority here are firmly convinced that Bulgaria fought for the Nazis. I don’t understand what is it? The result of masqueraded Russian anti-NATO propaganda or the illiteracy of young people about the history of the Second World War? It’s hard to figure it out.
            Are you among the very low-minded people who apparently know this part of the story and I wonder what is happening? Western falsifications of the history of the Second World War have long been known, but on the Russian side did not know what it is possible to pass through ...
      3. 0
        16 October 2012 15: 05
        and Georgians are better.?
      4. 0
        16 October 2012 15: 55
        "Brothers" once again prove that they are not brothers at all ....
      5. mnn_12
        0
        17 October 2012 00: 12
        This WAR is a provocateur like you. For Bulgaria and Bulgarians judging by ego, it would be the same as for Russia and Russians judging by the intellectual level of your texts. It’s quite real I can admit that your ass and ego nickname are worth one person
    3. 0
      16 October 2012 11: 33
      And Gazprom is going to bring the southern stream to Bulgaria, probably in order to become completely dependent on such little brothers.
      1. 0
        16 October 2012 11: 48
        Quote: sergey32

        And Gazprom is going to bring the southern stream to Bulgaria, probably in order to become completely dependent on such little brothers.


        Yeah ... here they are on our gas and oil and will produce weapons for the Georgians, who then shoot at us ...
    4. +3
      16 October 2012 11: 46
      "Brothers" is one of the ideological myths, from which we can never get out of the habit, since a Russian person is kind to everyone, and naive in something ...
      Look at history with an unbiased eye. At all times, in all wars, Bulgaria was an enemy of Russia and became a "friend" only when it got a good kick in the face. The same thing continues now. And we all keep repeating "brothers, brothers" ...
      1. Witch
        0
        16 October 2012 12: 21
        +1
        Bulgarians ceased to be brothers after, during the 2nd Balkan war, the Republic of Ingushetia sided with the Serbian kingdom, not Bulgaria, which was trying to become "Great Bulgaria" at that time. As a result, the goals of the second Balkan were achieved e were + territorial losses ...
    5. +2
      16 October 2012 11: 50
      Some Shipka completely forgot .. Others - they themselves ran to the tsar to bow .. Yes, and to hell with them .. The lot of under-states - to bend under the strong ..
    6. +2
      16 October 2012 11: 54
      Quote: andrei332809
      ,business is business,

      Money rules the world, Bulgarians are no exception.
      1. 0
        16 October 2012 12: 14
        Money rules the world, Bulgarians are no exception.


        I agree the ears know where they grow from.

        At the same time, the senator added that the statement by Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili that the republic agrees not to use force against Abkhazia and South Ossetia is important for the United States.

        The media, referring to reports from military experts and intelligence agencies, said that tens of millions of dollars worth of American arms would be delivered to Georgia. At the same time, these transactions, according to experts, will be made conspiratorially, through the territory of third countries.

        The media noted that promises on this issue were made by the deputy head of the U.S. defense department on international security issues, Alexander Vershbow, as well as the representative of the Senate from the Republican Party, John McCain, to the Georgian state minister for European and Euro-Atlantic integration, George Baramidze. This happened during the last visit to the capital of the United States at the end of the 2010 year.
    7. red 015
      0
      17 October 2012 21: 39
      Brothers we have only Belarus and Ukraine, and the rest of the pseudo-brothers
  2. andrey.shamay
    +1
    16 October 2012 11: 03
    “Fraternal” Georgia continues to arm itself. Why not buy weapons, getting free gas from Russia. Then from these howitzers, by order from Washington, they will again kill our soldiers. Maybe our government will finally stop arming our enemies!
    1. +2
      16 October 2012 12: 04
      Quote: andrey.shamay
      Why not buy weapons, getting free gas from Russia.

      What does Georgia get free gas from and from whom? Money from Fashington gives for the purchase of weapons and not a little, however, many loans will have to be returned.
  3. Gemar
    +2
    16 October 2012 11: 09
    There are fewer and fewer doubts that Georgia has abandoned its revanchist intentions to return Abkhazia with South Ossetia. I hope that the Georgian authorities will not be led by repeated promises of the United States to support them in the event of "open aggression of the Russian Federation" against a "sovereign" state. I put the sovereign in quotation marks, because the United States rules over them.
    1. +3
      16 October 2012 11: 26
      Quote: Gamar
      There is less and less doubt that Georgia has abandoned its revanchist intentions to return Abkhazia with South Ossetia.

      Personally, I never had these doubts! Double 2 will be anyway, especially in the light of the actions of extremist forces in the Caucasus! And then Azerbaijan is eager to return Karabakh, in short it will be "fun"!
      1. Gemar
        +2
        16 October 2012 12: 02
        Quote: nycsson
        And then Azerbaijan is eager to return Karabakh

        Exactly! +
        Turkey also said that it "warns" us against interfering in this difficult situation. It's sad that no one is afraid of us. Neither the US, nor the PRC, nor Turkey are afraid to be frankly rude in the foreign policy arena. Some openly declare that they recognize us as enemy number 1. Others are constantly making territorial claims. Still others, in violation of all consular and diplomatic norms, treat our citizens like a pig. So why should Georgia be afraid of us? They see Russia's weakness. Especially in the information war.
        Conclusion: until a leader appears who is able to show the "partners" of Kuzkin's mother-2, we will be considered as outright "tolerated".
        1. 0
          16 October 2012 13: 02
          As for Kuzkin’s mother (the Tsar’s bomb), as you know, she was designed and built in Snezhinsk and Sarov, and here’s some interesting news:
          The capacity of the Sarov Nuclear Center (VNIIEF) supercomputer by the 2018-2020 years is planned to be brought to a tremendous value in the 1 exaflops, VNIIEF scientific adviser Radiy Ilkaev told reporters.
          Currently, supercomputer capacities of nuclear centers in Sarov and Snezhinsk are about 2 petaflops.
          "We have been tasked with bringing our supercomputer capacities at VNIIEF to 2018 exaflops by 2020-1," Ilkaev said.

          Supercomputer performance is measured in petaflops, which is 1 quadrillion operations per second. 1 exaflops, in turn, is a thousand petaflops. According to November 2011 data, the most powerful in the world is the Japanese supercomputer with 10,51 petaflops capacity.
          1. +2
            16 October 2012 17: 28
            Quote: urzul
            As for Kuzkin’s mother (the Tsar’s bomb), as you know, she was designed and built in Snezhinsk and Sarov, and here’s some interesting news:

            I think you did not understand Gamar! This is about how to heel on the podium to knock, and not moo under your breath ...........
      2. 0
        16 October 2012 12: 07
        Quote: nycsson
        Double 2 will be anyway, especially in light of the actions of extremist forces in the Caucasus! And then Azerbaijan is eager to return Karabakh, in short it will be "fun"!

        Double 2 will end in Tbilisi, but it will be more difficult with Azerbaijan
        The Caucasus is burning up very soon, and not only the Caucasus!
        1. +1
          16 October 2012 17: 33
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Double 2 will end in Tbilisi, but it will be more difficult with Azerbaijan

          In Tbilisi? Well, this is how to say it. If the Turks did not detain the Amer fleet at that time, it is not known how all this would end! And now nobody will keep them, as I think!
          With Azerbaijan, we will shake up in full! His army is what he needs!
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The Caucasus is burning up very soon, and not only the Caucasus!

          The process has already begun! The scenario will be the same as in Syria!

          http://svpressa.ru/society/article/57617/
          3000 Tatar Wahhabis are waiting in the wings
          In the meantime, a forest bandit underground appeared in the republic, swearing an oath to Doku Umarov
          The investigation ordered an examination of a video recording of the appeal of the so-called “Tatarstan Mujahideen” that appeared on the Internet and claimed responsibility for the assassination of Tatarstan’s mufti Ildus Fayzov and the murder of his deputy Valiulla Yakupov on July 19. Currently, according to official figures, seven people have been arrested as part of a double crime investigation, two are wanted, and dozens more are under suspicion.
          Last weekend, a video appeared on the Internet in which a man shot in the forest, with an open face, in camouflage uniform and with a gun, reports that he is “Muhamed, Amir of the Mujahideen of Tatarstan”. The man said that it was on his orders that “an operation” was conducted against Fayzov and Yakupov. According to some reports, this person is Rais Mingaleev, who was put on the wanted list as a suspect in the organization of the murder and attempt. The investigation has already attached the video to the criminal case.
      3. 0
        16 October 2012 13: 40
        Double 2 will be for anyone, especially in the light of the actions of extremist forces in the Caucasus!
        Well, in fact, the Salafis will not greatly affect this war. It’s not that weight and it’s impossible to create large gangs. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB at their destruction the dog ate.
        Georgia tutu without options will end in Tbilisi. Let's see what steps Ivanishvili will take. But the 58th Army is already different. And since 2008, South-Eastern Military District has been greatly strengthened.
        + Dagestan and Sviyazhsk with clubs on the Caspian. Against which no one has an effective means of struggle.
        1. +1
          16 October 2012 17: 37
          Quote: leon-iv
          It’s not that weight and it’s impossible to create large gangs.

          Quote: leon-iv
          The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB at their destruction the dog ate.

          Are you generally interested in the situation in the Caucasus or not ??? It seems that you before this post to write from the moon fell ?! I beg your pardon!
          Quote: leon-iv
          And since 2008, South-Eastern Military District has been greatly strengthened.
          + Dagestan and Sviyazhsk with clubs on the Caspian. Against which no one has an effective means of struggle.

          Do you think our enemies have been sleeping all this time and waiting while we are strengthening SEE ?! They are also not made with a finger! Yes, and about silence it’s better to be silent; don’t step on a sore spot! The service life in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is one year !!! Here is all the gain!
          1. +1
            16 October 2012 18: 04
            Are you generally interested in the situation in the Caucasus or not ???
            I participate in the preparation of the people who serve there. In particular, CQB in the framework of the TSP.

            Yes, and about silence it’s better to be silent; don’t step on a sore spot!
            it’s about this callus that you whine every time, and absolutely dilettantically. And making mistakes from time to time.
            Now tell me how Azerbaijan, Turkey, Georgia have strengthened in relation to the RF Armed Forces? And then we'll discuss.
            1. bask
              0
              16 October 2012 19: 54
              leon-iv All the countries you have listed since 2008 except Georgia. Strengthened and even like. Turkey generally made a technological revolution in the production of armored vehicles. Azerbaijan bought a lot of new ones and modernized armored vehicles with the help of Israel. And that Russia can counter all this with New equipment in the troops 000. The specialists you are preparing in the amount of 3 thousand people are no more. The rest of the sky-ready year-old is not able to do anything, the army, but simply, cannon fodder, then comb again ???
              1. 0
                16 October 2012 20: 12
                Turkey generally made a technological revolution in the production of armored vehicles
                Are you talking about Altai?
                Azerbaijan bought a lot of new and modernized armored vehicles with the help of Israel
                Oga A T-72B2 and T-90A in the South-East Military District is so much dirt from under nocta.
                New equipment in the troops 000
                Look at the supply of equipment in SEE, for example, on the blog http://bmpd.livejournal.com there a lot of supplies are tracked.
                but I’ll leave you here on Mi-28 about what parts they received
                387th Army Airbase (formerly 487th separate helicopter regiment) near Budennovsk [
                393rd Army Airbase (formerly 55th Separate Helicopter Regiment) near Korenovsk in the Krasnodar Territory
                Continue to comb ???
                Yes, please, but somehow it is not clear.
                1. bask
                  0
                  16 October 2012 20: 30
                  BTR ,, Pars ,,,, world level, etc. ...., T90 A units There is no modern version of the T90MS with the VC placed in the stern of the tower! BTR 90 There is no mine protection. I’m not talking about the 3M self-propelled gun BMV ,, Vienna ,, Urals and Kamazs of the Typhoon project of the New 000 armored vehicles 15 you agreed with me. .And most importantly, there are no soldiers .Who should fight on this technique. Godishniks do not count. And before the age of 1 it is still necessary to survive. We’ll fight back and pay with soldier’s lives, Chechnya 2 XNUMX Now, in the absence of technology using MPAP technology, they ride on armor and die every month in Dagestan and Ingushetia. fighters of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
                  1. +1
                    16 October 2012 20: 44
                    BTR ,, Pars ,,,, world level
                    He is not even Mrap)))
                    So creative processing and order of 150 pieces and holds only KPVT.
                    etc...
                    Capacitively. but there’s nothing more to find.
                    T90 A
                    Only 19 crew on t-90A + deliveries of T-72B2
                    http://topwar.ru/15049-t-72b2-rogatka-poydet-v-voyska-neuzheli-dozhdalis.html
                    and not to be unfounded on the 19th brigade

                    so here

                    Tanks T-90A and BMP-3 in the 20th Omsbr (Volgograd) - http://twower.livejournal.com/428405.html
                    Tanks T-90A and BMP-3 in the 19th Omsbr (Vladikavkaz) - http://twower.livejournal.com/555737.html
                    T-90A at the 7th military base (Abkhazia) - http://twower.livejournal.com/66420.html, at the 136th omsbr (Dagestan) - http://twower.livejournal.com/464220.html
                    BTR-82A in the 19th Omsbr (Vladikavkaz) - http://twower.livejournal.com/588207.html. Apparently, they also went to the intelligence battalion of the 20th Omsbr.
                    Tanks T-72BM and BTR-82A in the 18th Omsbr (Chechnya) - http://twower.livejournal.com/657325.html. Apparently, these same tanks went to the 205th Omsbr.
                    + Deliveries of BTR82A and BTR80A
                    Ural and Kamaz Project Typhoon
                    They are still in Gosi and VI, including in the South-East Military District
                    000 new armored vehicles you agreed with me
                    No and I gave you arguments

                    they ride on armor and die every month in Dagestan and Ingushetia. fighters of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
                    Undermines are rare now more often than fire raids on roadblocks.

                    Threat and I also recommend studying the data on the 34th brigade
                    http://twower.livejournal.com/tag/34-я%20горная%20бригада
                    1. bask
                      0
                      16 October 2012 21: 00
                      I agree. The technique of MDI is vital. A tactical armored vehicle with mine protection. 7-10 tone for patrolling for 5-6 people. No even plans for the future. Tiger and Iveco, do not count. They are created for other tasks. Delivery to the battlefield.
                      1. +1
                        16 October 2012 21: 03
                        um, and for whom it is more necessary for explosives or for the sun.
                        Let me remind you that the main danger for the Armed Forces is not IEDs, because they will not have time to put them, fragments of 155 / 152mm shells.
            2. 0
              16 October 2012 23: 10
              Quote: leon-iv
              I participate in the preparation of the people who serve there. In particular, CQB in the framework of the TSP.

              Then I just do not understand you ........
              Quote: leon-iv
              it’s about this callus that you whine every time, and absolutely dilettantically. And making mistakes from time to time.

              I don't know what mistakes you are talking about ?! Analyze the service life and appeal, which is 2 times a year! You do not need to be seven inches in your forehead to understand about the "combat capability" of our Armed Forces! For those guys who are in your photo, I'm not talking!
              Quote: leon-iv
              Now tell me how Azerbaijan, Turkey, Georgia have strengthened in relation to the RF Armed Forces? And then we'll discuss.

              And with this question you are just killing me! All media outlets insist on strengthening the army of Azerbaijan and Georgia! About their purchases of large quantities of weapons for various purposes, etc. That the Georgian Armed Forces train NATO specialists ......... On the main page of the site, an article about the Bulgarian weapons that Georgia buys is another confirmation of this! I don’t know about Turkey, so I won’t speak for it. hi
              1. 0
                17 October 2012 10: 44
                Then I just do not understand you ........
                And think that there are tasks for the Ministry of Internal Affairs, VV and FSB, but there are for the military. And the military in the Caucasus need to participate to a minimum.
                Analyze the service life and call, which is 2 times a year!
                Emm was called up 2 times a year.
                By training, for a year it is possible to prepare an conscript on a simple WM. More serious places are replaced by double basses.
                All media outlets insist on strengthening the army of Azerbaijan and Georgia!
                At the same time, they are silent about the planned rearmament of South-East Military District. I gave examples above.
                + Creation of 2 mountain brigades.
                + New ships in the Caspian that can destroy targets at ranges of 2500 thousand km
                That the Georgian armed forces train NATO special .....
                With a known result.
                .On the main page of the site, an article about the Bulgarian weapons that Georgia buys is another confirmation of this!
                Do you know what condition they are in? What is ASUNO? Compare with the Russian?
                I don’t know about Turkey, so I won’t speak for it.
                Explore. Especially on which theater of operations the bulk of the troops are concentrated.
          2. Gemar
            +2
            16 October 2012 19: 13
            Quote: nycsson
            The service life in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is one year !!! Here is all the gain!

            Ah, how right you are! +
            Take, for example, my "favorite" China. There, to get into the army, one desire is not enough. The military registration and enlistment office pays attention to academic performance in educational institutions, physical fitness and psychological balance of potential fighters. Plus, any of the Chinese with great pleasure and great pride will give their lives for the "Celestial Empire".
            When I was studying in Dalian, I had a familiar Chinese man who owned a small restaurant. His father, being a marine border guard, died in execution. So the mother of my friend receives a substantial pension every month. And recently, their family was presented with a pickup truck of a Chinese assembly! Do you think the Chinese have high morale?
            We have the same ... My friend receives 2500 rubles a month. belay TWO FIVE HUNDREDS for more than 8 years of service in Chechnya under a contract! At such a pace, we’ll completely ruin the army ... Re-equipment. Yes, I’m glad that at least something enters the troops. However, when they fought with the Georgians, the soldiers put on two white bandages to distinguish their own from strangers. And the point is not the absence of communication systems, but the banal absence of a single form! How so? And is this the legacy of the great USSR? Sorry ...
            GLORY TO RUSSIA!
            1. 0
              16 October 2012 19: 37
              My friend gets 2500 rubles a month
              Is he retired? And the pension for which department.
            2. 0
              16 October 2012 23: 17
              Quote: Gamar
              Take, for example, my "favorite" China. There, to get into the army, desire alone is not enough. The military registration and enlistment office pays attention to academic performance in educational institutions, physical fitness and psychological balance of potential fighters.

              And we recently adopted a law, they began to take the army with a criminal record !!! wassat wassat wassat About the rest and say nothing .........
              1. 0
                17 October 2012 08: 38
                um, they’ve taken such people since the 60s
                Where do you think inconsistency with conspiracy manners?
    2. 0
      16 October 2012 11: 56
      Greetings to all, for Sergey I also hope so.
      1. Gemar
        0
        16 October 2012 13: 01
        Hello Bekzat!
        One thing is good that Kazakhstan is pursuing a smart, self-sufficient and independent policy. After all, it’s clear to the hedgehog that it is impossible to be partially independent in the case of the USA. It is only Russia that can allow Belarus to pursue an independent, inconsistent (example - the same recognition of the independence of Abkhazia with South Ossetia) policy. And then, only until the Russian Federation has not departed from the shock of the 90s. As soon as we get stronger, it is thought that the Belarusians will feel on themselves all the charms of the Union State. Muscovites immediately chop off all Belarusian production!
        Example:
        My father spent more than 30 years in the seas. Of these, about 10 years in one company. The firm was Primorskaya, i.e. without capital from the Muscovites. The sailors consistently received at least 2 thousand dollars a month. The product quality was at the highest level. The firm's clients were mostly Singaporeans. Many specialists dreamed of getting into this company, although they knew that they had to work hard here in full. The people received normal money for high labor productivity. The bosses tried to hire trusted people, preferably from the local population. I would call such a bosses PATRIOTS! But Muscovites "flew" to us and began to cut salaries, put their relatives in the main positions. And so, people without proper knowledge of the case sucked everything they could from the company. The good ones were dispersed. And why should they spend money on specialists with high wages, who will also disagree with the actions of the management, when they can put in their place two unskilled workers with low salaries. So the latter will also remain silent and will not express dissatisfaction with the criminal actions of the leadership.

        But Kazakhstan cooperates with everyone at once. With Russia - Common Economic Space. We are also friends with the EU and the USA. And we will value human rights "at your level" - just give money. So we made friends with Turkey - they immediately received a loan of $ 250 million.
        This is who Georgia should take an example from! The country does not cross anyone's road and receives dividends from this. Moreover, he is not going to "travel" either under us, or under the USA, or under the Turks!
  4. +4
    16 October 2012 11: 31
    Yes, we don’t have any bros except Ukraine and Belarus. Everyone else, who was in the USSR or its ally, just sensed where it smells of honey and warmed up ... until it stopped smelling of honey there.
  5. Juga
    +1
    16 October 2012 11: 36
    May God grant that these "Carnations" only took part in parades.
    And so the news is rather unpleasant, the tension in the region is growing, all countries are arming heavily, something will obviously happen, the main question is when?
  6. +2
    16 October 2012 11: 38
    "Fraternal" Bulgaria arms "fraternal" Georgia with weapons of "Fraternal" Russia (or technical legacy), so that the "fraternal" ia will help establish "fraternal" relations with "brothers" Ossetians on the bones of "brothers" of Russians wassat "Star in shock"
  7. +3
    16 October 2012 11: 38
    It would be better if the Georgian government invested in the development of song and dance ensembles, the Georgian talent for creativity, and not for war.
  8. +4
    16 October 2012 12: 00
    In 1914. betrayed, in 1941. betrayed, in 1999. betrayed, now they are mocking the memory of our soldiers who died in the Great Patriotic War, how much can you endure from the "brotherly people", say the people are not to blame, but how many are left who really respect Russia.
    1. mnn_12
      0
      17 October 2012 11: 07
      havoc,
      The only thing that interests me here is whether you are really so illiterate in ignorant in the history of the Second World War, or are you fully consciously and purposefully doing your job? I would not have paid any attention to the primitive cave Bulgarianophobes (or well-paid agent provocateurs?) How can I tell you for the sake of thousands of dead Bulgarian soldiers, for the sake of still living veterans and for the sake of young Russian people - Bulgaria did not fight the USSR in World War II. This is a lie and it will not be the truth if it is and will be repeated thousands of times.
      1. 0
        18 October 2012 12: 25
        mnn_12,
        Quote: mnn_12
        The only thing that interests me here is whether you are really so illiterate in ignorant in the history of the Second World War, or are you fully consciously and purposefully doing your job? I would not have paid any attention to the primitive cave Bulgarianophobes (or well-paid agent provocateurs?) How can I tell you for the sake of thousands of dead Bulgarian soldiers, for the sake of still living veterans and for the sake of young Russian people - Bulgaria did not fight the USSR in World War II. This is a lie and it will not be the truth if it is and will be repeated thousands of times.

        Good only facts;
        1. V1940 On the proposal to conclude an agreement on peace agreements, Bulgaria refused.
        2. Yes, formally, Bulgaria did not declare war on the USSR.
        3. December 13, 1941 Bulgaria declared war on the USA and England, the future allies of the USSR.
        4.March 1941 Bulgaria voluntarily joined the tripartite act, becoming an ally of Germany; let me ask the enemy ally who he is.
        5. Bulgaria voluntarily provided its ports and airfields to the Nazis from which they bombed us. A blow was struck from the territory of Bulgaria to Yugoslavia.
        6. Bulgaria supplied the army of F. Germany with sheepskin, food, its army performed police functions in the Balkans.
        7. The most important thing is September 5, 1944. USSR DECLARED THE WAR OF BULGARIA.
        A friend of my enemy is my enemy.
        So I would advise you to learn history. And then it turns out if you didn’t declare war, there were no troops on the eastern front, so there were no wars, and moral and material support for the Nazis is like that, childish pranks.
        1. mnn_12
          0
          18 October 2012 21: 42
          All that you can teach me is shameless and without a conscience, you can falsify stories, how facts will be selectively and purposefully presented to represent falsehoods for truth. All these facts were selected, and why were they silent about others?

          V1940 On the proposal to conclude an agreement on peace agreements, Bulgaria refused.

          Why do you keep silent that the Ribentrop-Molotov Pact was in these years and that de facto Germany and the USSR were allies?

          2. Yes, formally, Bulgaria did not declare war on the USSR

          Not formally but also quite realistically, Bulgaria and the USSR did not enter the war. Are you hoping that here the audience does not know the facts and your manipulations will be taken for the truth?

          5. Bulgaria voluntarily provided its ports and airfields to the Nazis from which they bombed us. A blow was struck from the territory of Bulgaria to Yugoslavia.


          About 3 and 4 I will not say, they do not support your thesis. Yugoslavia is not the USSR but Yugoslav planes were the first to bomb Sofia, but of course you do not know about it. Read more to falsify the story more convincingly and keep in mind that Bulgaria is not Romania.

          6. Bulgaria supplied the army of F. Germany with sheepskin, food, its army performed police functions in the Balkans.

          And why not tell me what and how much Bulgaria delivered to the Red Army? Unprofitable? Not good? Manipulation will not work?

          7. The most important thing is September 5, 1944. USSR Declares War on Bulgaria

          Not expensive, this is not the most important thing. The USSR announced but Bulgaria did not. In order to have a war, at least 2 objects are needed.
          And the most important thing is that not a single soldier of the USSR died on the Bulgarian territory.
          It really bothers all cave Bulgarianophobes like you, but on the other hand, they try to hide and silence this as deeply as possible through the most shameless and unscrupulous way.
  9. 0
    16 October 2012 12: 55
    Bulgarians Bulgarians .... hypocrites and bastards ...
    1. mnn_12
      +1
      16 October 2012 22: 58
      And how many Bulgarians do you know? Among Russians there are no hypocrites, bastards, traitors ...?
  10. -1
    16 October 2012 13: 14
    here they are ....... bros ---- it is necessary to draw conclusions
  11. bask
    +1
    16 October 2012 13: 38
    So much for, and, brothers, Slavs They freed them from complete ,, cutting out, "by the Turks. And they give us, they’ll throw a jerk from century to century. They fought on the side of Germany in the 1st and the Second World War. And now they constantly constantly shit (like the Poles)))))) For that little brother spoil the SAVIORS ????? AAA.
  12. 0
    16 October 2012 13: 59
    They just got on the black list of Lavrov hi
    I am sure the conclusions are made and countermeasures are being taken or have already been taken.
  13. 0
    16 October 2012 14: 27
    It seems to me that it's time for our leadership to abandon the practice of feeding "fraternal" peoples, inherited from the USSR. Remember, it was worth some tribal king, descending from a palm tree, to declare the "non-capitalist" path of development, as our leaders began to kiss him I don’t need to explain what this has led to, I think it’s not necessary to explain! The Yusovtsev’s approach is much more pragmatic - as soon as they started feeding the next satellite, they put it in a comfortable position and used it as intended for its own benefit. Oddly enough, such tactics worked and works without failures and, what is even more strange, objections from the FRG, Japan are still loyal to them allies in the "posishen namber one!" I'm crying for you, you make me happy!
  14. cool.ya-nikola
    0
    16 October 2012 15: 00
    Quote: vadimN
    At all times, in all wars, Bulgaria was an enemy of Russia and became a "friend" only when it got a good kick in the face.

    Unfortunately, dear Vadim, she received little in the face, I must note (for the sake of objectivity) that we, lulled by this sweet word "brothers", drove echelons with wheat at the end of the 40s to feed the "brotherly" people, although we like extra grubs, too, was not in abundance! And, here, in the mid-90s, in the magazine "Ogonyok", a certain Daria Aslamova published her essays about Bulgaria. So, there she wrote that to her question: - "How did it bring you" brothers "into NATO?", These guys, as they say "with a blue eye" answered her - "And what could we do? After all, you abandoned us! ... "So, as you can see, this is a typical rogue logic: - we serve the one who feeds us, but does not feed us, so we do not serve ... As the saying goes," nothing personal! "
  15. +4
    16 October 2012 15: 58
    About eight years ago I was in the small coastal town of Balchik, Bulgaria.
    In the middle of Balchik there are two small naval guns - a monument. The guide says that in 1914 the Russian battleship, it seems, "Empress Maria", approached the shore, and the glorious lieutenant Peleshka was not frightened and fired a volley from these two "pukaloks" towards the battleship. The Russian battleship got scared and went home. Glory to the valiant defenders of Balchik! I politely ask the guide what would happen if the battleship commander took this salute not for a salute, but for shelling his ship. The battleship's multi-ton salvo in response would not have covered these two guns, but would have destroyed the entire city to the ground.
    Everyone can offend Russians, not everyone has time to apologize!
    1. +1
      17 October 2012 08: 26
      most likely it was a salute or an attempt to salute - in 1914 both Romania and Bulgaria were neutral. in addition, from 1913 to 1916, Balchik was part of Romania like the whole of southern Dobrudja, so the glorious lieutenant, firing at the Russian battleship, was Romanian.
      the guide you came across some strange.
      1. 0
        18 October 2012 13: 12
        Quote: dzvero
        most likely it was a salute or an attempt to salute - in 1914 both Romania and Bulgaria were neutral. in addition, from 1913 to 1916, Balchik was part of Romania like the whole of southern Dobrudja, so the glorious lieutenant, firing at the Russian battleship, was Romanian.
        the guide you came across some strange.


        http://bog-roman1991.narod.ru/bolgariya/bolgariya_v_pervoi_mirovoi_voine/
      2. 0
        20 October 2012 00: 00
        Dear Ivo!
        I told you what I heard on the tour. I didn’t choose a guide. By the way, everyone laughed at this ridiculous story: both Russians and Bulgarians.
  16. Oleg Alexandrovich
    +1
    16 October 2012 16: 14
    Why do Georgians need these self-propelled guns? After all, they throw at the first smell of fried
    1. 0
      16 October 2012 16: 47
      I did not know that in case of danger, the Georgians smell fried. How then to go to these SPGs?
  17. Konrad
    +2
    16 October 2012 19: 45
    And I do not like Kirkorov! It’s kind of muddy.
    1. Kshatriy
      0
      16 October 2012 19: 49
      Quote: Konrad
      And I do not like Kirkorov! It’s kind of muddy.

      One word "Romanian" ... Duc he is .... "Bulgarian" ..... but what's the difference ????
  18. tekinoral
    +1
    16 October 2012 20: 03
    it’s not strange, but ordinary people in Bulgaria love Russian
    1. Kshatriy
      0
      16 October 2012 20: 12
      Quote: tekinoral
      it’s not strange, but ordinary people in Bulgaria love Russian

      ... So we are of the same blood ... SLAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    2. mnn_12
      0
      19 October 2012 00: 34
      Well, at least a Bulgarian power would not exist without Russia. We would now be in a situation similar to the Kurds, but worse because religion divides ...
  19. Kshatriy
    0
    16 October 2012 20: 18
    The self-propelled howitzer 2C1 had not previously been in service with the Georgian army, and installations from Bulgaria were first demonstrated at the military parade 26 of May 2012 of the year in Kutaisi (which was noted in our blog).

    In addition, in its report to the UN Register, Bulgaria indicated the delivery of 2011 automatic rifles, 1500 light machine guns and 450 disposable RPG-600 to Georgia in the 22 year.

    Other Bulgarian deliveries in 2011 include the sending of a large batch of small arms to India (70565 machine guns and 815 grenade launchers), as well as the active bidding of 73-mm anti-tank grenade launchers SPG-9 (261 units delivered to Afghanistan, 20 Tajikistan, 15 Mali and 12 Burkina Faso).
    ...... And why didn’t you put anything ????????????????????????????????
  20. -1
    16 October 2012 22: 20
    Oh well )
    so bad that everyone is betraying you
    Well, no one is not selling you! it would be interesting what Russia is exhibiting in other countries and how did you justify these deliveries? )
    you always see enemies around! calm down! so what ? You have a Pinocchio Grad C-300 C-400 atomic bomb, etc.!
    1. +1
      16 October 2012 23: 04
      Quote: GEOKING95
      You have a Pinocchio Grad S-300 S-400 atomic bomb, etc.!

      Hello, what bomb? Who was it sold to? Mishiko (good health to him in retirement) scares the citizens of his country with the Russian atomic bomb? I don’t see anything fatal in the action of the Bulgarian clerks. Sold the self-propelled guns and oxide with it. It will come in handy for the homeless on the border with Dagestan.
      Friends can betray, and Russia is no longer just friends with anyone. There are no more friends as such. Everyone has already been wedged and quarreled, there is no confidence left.
      1. +1
        17 October 2012 14: 12
        Quote: Drednout
        Friends can betray, and Russia is no longer just friends with anyone.

        but needed was friends about not scare these friends!
        Quote: Drednout
        Hello, what bomb? Who was it sold to? Mishiko (good health to him in retirement) scares the citizens of his country with the Russian atomic bomb?

        no) not who does not scare us
  21. Husseyn
    +3
    17 October 2012 11: 30
    The Georgians had losses in South Ossetia, including in the artillery, by the way according to the systems that they bought in the same Czech Republic. It is normal for Georgia to restore its artillery strength. This is their right and their business. Moreover, their internationally recognized borders are violated, etc. etc.

    What Bulgaria sold, why is it terrible and treacherous? For example, Russia gives weapons to its ally of Armenia and sells to Azerbaijan, that now gentlemen of the cheers-patriots do not shout that Russia is corrupt, its mouth is covered with petrodollars? :))) But Azerbaijan doesn’t buy them for parades, the main task is to free the occupied territories, that is, for war all with the same Armenia, an ally of Russia, and in fact with Russia itself, since an Armenian tank without a Russian crew is scrap :)))

    So it's somehow sad for you all the Lord, here they crumpled another Slavic people and state, insulted a person, and then hope that they will continue to call you "brothers"? Spas, helped, did good - this is not a reason to wipe your feet later, forgetting about the feelings and pride of another.

    How beautifully they wrote that the allies of Russia scatter to "where it is smeared with honey." Sorry, but Russia is betraying all its allies, I think there is no need to remind about the Serbia mentioned here? - Russia betrayed it and gave it to be crucified, and officially recognizing Abkhazia and South Ossetia put an end to the issue of Kosovo, where not everything was decided yet. And why now be surprised that everyone is climbing into the European Union and NATO? ... Our brothers Belarusians and Ukrainians - how many insults are addressed to them even on this forum, and again "Batka", who has annoyed all Belarusians, keeps only at the expense of Russia. There is no him tomorrow, where will the "grateful to Russia" Belarusians run? To Russia, for another dictator? ...
    1. mnn_12
      +1
      17 October 2012 20: 22
      Dear Hussein,
      He taught me very interesting information - they will hold Armenia, but Azerbaijanis also sell it. As the Roman emperor said ... "Dengi doesn't smell"? Another proof that the topic of betrayal is very relevant ...
  22. +1
    17 October 2012 13: 07
    Quote: Huseyn
    What Bulgaria sold, why is it terrible and treacherous?

    I agree with you, especially since there are few weapons to buy, you must still be able to use them!
    1. Husseyn
      +2
      17 October 2012 15: 59
      Yes, they know how to use them, I think :) a lot of intelligence is not necessary, after all, all soviet weapons are designed for a drunk Fri-ear :)
      Yes, and the Georgian special forces are not so bad, and they are hardly holding cowards there that can be eaten from anywhere and to hell :)) a classmate serves there, I know.
  23. kov
    kov
    0
    18 October 2012 12: 33
    by the way, who did not see Carnation in battle

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned), Kirill Budanov (included to the Rosfinmonitoring list of terrorists and extremists)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev Lev; Ponomarev Ilya; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; Mikhail Kasyanov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"