Germany handed over another batch of ZSU Gepard 1A2 to Ukraine

Ukraine received another batch of anti-aircraft self-propelled guns Gepard. According to the German Ministry of Defense, four ZSU were transferred to Kyiv in addition to those already transferred.

To date, Germany has already delivered twelve Gepard ZSUs to Ukraine out of the fifteen promised, although the Ukrainian media for some reason claim that Berlin allegedly promised to supply thirty ZSUs. The information is not confirmed by anything, even the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Reznikov in July announced fifteen cars.

Germany handed over the first eight units in late July and early August in two batches of three and five vehicles. In addition to the anti-aircraft installations themselves, Kyiv also received from the Germans 49 thousand shells for the guns of this complex and three repair and recovery vehicles.

In Kyiv itself, they confirm the receipt of twelve Gepard anti-aircraft systems, but do not give any information on them. According to Ukrainian sources, part of the ZSU has already been sent closer to the front, in particular to Nikolaev. This information is indirectly confirmed by the Russian Ministry of Defense, which today announced the first destroyed Gepard ZSU just in this direction.

Initially, the Germans planned to transfer to Kyiv 50 Gepard 1A2 SPAAGs removed from long-term guarding, but everything fell apart after it turned out that the FRG did not have the required amount of ammunition for anti-aircraft guns, and Switzerland, which is a manufacturer of shells, refused to supply them to Ukraine. Later, already in July, the Germans found an independent manufacturer in Norway who agreed to supply the requested number of 35X228 mm shells for the 35 mm Oerlikon GDF automatic guns. But the number of anti-aircraft installations planned for transfer to Kyiv has decreased from 50 to 15.

ZSU Gepard 1A2 has a firing range of up to 5 km, and in height - up to 4 km, the radar detects targets at a distance of up to 18 km.

Comments

[Alexeevich0010]

only it seems that Norwegian shells do not mate with the Cheetah's FCS ... therefore, no bells and whistles, just a banal OFS

[Edik]

Germany seems to have begun to forget 1941-1945!

[Fisherman]

so it is, the Cheetah does not recognize Norwegian shells, the system is blocked .... most likely the Swiss manufacturer of shells "threw firewood" through a third country.
And our Cheetah has already been filled up!

[Wildcat]

Everything fits in there just fine. It has already been discussed a hundred times, the Cheetah does not even have programmable shells, ordinary ones; exotic - only "a sub-caliber that hits the target with fragments."

The main thing is that the Germans do not "raise from storage" the Rolands.
But, as we turn off the gas / oil (and this is what is going on), IMHO the Germans will work to the fullest in terms of storage bases / landfills.

[smart ass]

Gerard is a Shilka at maximum speed

[iouris]

We need to destroy Rheinmetall.

[Romario_Argo]

12 ZSU Gepard, APU will be enough for August - until full disposal
1 is already down

[The black]

I hope the generals of the ukrovermacht will not change themselves and sell a good half to third countries.

[kamikaze]

and the ammunition for this cheetah is voracious. the cartridges will then run to Switzerland for the front line. that will be laughter.

[dmi.pris1]

Yes, to count him. And all the business .. It's trite to turn off the gas

[Romario_Argo]

gas has been turned off.
SP-1 got up, SP-2 was not launched. Yamal-Europe - got up.
Soyuz - something like 30 million cubic meters per day, in fact everything remains in Ukraine

[Freeman2022]

If Germany goes to war somewhere, I don't even envy her. How many weapons will be given against the German troops. Life will not seem like a raspberry to them.

[Zaurbek]

Good caliber 35mm x 228mm. Here we would like to replace 2a42 with an infantry fighting vehicle

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Zaurbek

Good caliber 35mm x 228mm. Here we would like to replace 2a42 with an infantry fighting vehicle

In the USSR for automatic cannons there were calibers from 23mm to 57mmIncluding 37mm and 45mm.

ZSU-37-2 "Yenisei" 1960 - 2 pcs...

[Zaurbek]

I mean that fit in the BMP tower

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Zaurbek

I mean that fit in the BMP tower

Fits in the BMP-3 turret 100mm 2A70 and 40 shots and more 30mm 2A72 and 500 shots + PKT 7,62mm and 2000 rounds...
As an example one can take NA-45 - automatic gun 45mm.
Weight 152kg
Is long 2520mm
Shot 45x186mm - return 7 tons, but on the version NS-45M uses a muzzle brake to reduce recoil 85%.

[Zaurbek]

It seems to me a good option is 35-45mm and 4 pieces of cornet ...

[Oleg-Ivanov]

Worrying. The main thing is that there should not be a lot of ammunition for these cheetahs.

[Eva Star]

Germany is an industrial country, sabotage in neutral waters by destroying the gas pipeline from Norway. Germany will stop, the EU will stop. The USSR lost to the West because it played by the rules of the West. Now Russia also plays by the rules of the West. We need to make the European economy suffer. The EU will not have money, there will be no money to support Ukraine, they will not be able to feed themselves, because they live in debt.

[kot423]

Quote from Eva Star

Now Russia also plays by the rules of the West. We need to make the European economy suffer.

Sure? According to you, the EU is already on a white horse. in energy, gas, oil (production minus) - or is it still in a deep well .., but will it plunge even deeper?

[Eva Star]

These are the rules because they imposed sanctions. They knew it would be. But what they do not expect is sabotage. It is necessary to beat the enemy where he is weakest and will not be able to answer. The West is weak in energy.

[Retvizan 8]

Liverny curtsies before the hegemon.

[mitroha]

Quote: Retvizan 8

Liverny curtsies before the hegemon.

On the one hand, yes, but on the other hand, they transferred a part, far from the best, from what they could. Yes, and it was stretched for 5 months.
So sausage is sausage, and it doesn’t hurt, it’s cured .....
But it completely depends on the "hegemon". So this, if desired, can still be passed off as a silent demarche.

[GNM]

This cheetah eats like a hamster - what we do not have time to destroy, they themselves will be thrown into the scrap because of the lack of shells.

[valentine light]

It seems that the "Oerlikons" are voracious with a shortage of shells.

[Ros 56]

Well, one of the first three cats is already dead. The rest will be the same.

[Normann]

Are they again? Were they few?

[Egoza]

Quote: Normann

Are they again? Were they few?

Norman! Who are you talking about? If it’s about Germany, then while the “liverka” is driving there, they haven’t remembered it yet. However, soon, with the advent of cold weather, their memory will immediately recover.
If about Ukraine, then there will always be little!

[valentine light]

I don’t understand, but why is the "cheetah" better than our battle-tested and modernized to the modern level "Shilka"?

It is possible for the People's Liberation Armies of the DPR and LPR "Shilok" to drive more to protect civilians from drones and all sorts of other DRGs on Turkish armored cars.

[GNM]

About Shilki - maybe too voracious?
But the Terminator is said to have proven itself well.

[valentine light]

The heavy tank support vehicle "Terninator", judging by the statements in the military order, is intended primarily to support tanks and assault units of motorized infantry.
"Shilka" uses an airborne radar to aim at a target in the sky, and after modernization it is equipped with an optical search and targeting complex.
Yes, it is voracious, but still 4 barrels, which give a dense flurry of fire, which is extremely not useful for drones. And there seems to be no shortage of ammunition.
It is clear that it is not super modern and voracious, but it is quite normal for the People's Liberation Armies of Donbass.

[Altmann]

She was serious. Gentlemen, this is a very good weapon. Europe has cleared its warehouses and is now producing the best. It seems that the American pressure on Europe is unbearable. We must join the resistance against the Americans, they are really bad people.

[Cananecat]

Quote: Altmann

Gentlemen, this is a very good weapon.

This is a good but old weapon. It can only be useful for supporting infantry and protecting stationary objects, provided that at least 5-7 complexes are connected to the network.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

provided that at least 5-7 complexes are connected to the network.

for one Ka-52 it will be called a shooting gallery

[spirit]

An ingenious move by the Germans! Make a zsu under a shell that eternally neutral Switzerland makes)

[Yaro Polk]

Fascist with Nazi Bruder on the eyelid.
W/H

[dimbasic]

it is necessary to offer Ukrainians to hand over imported equipment for grandmas.

[Kiril Letov]

"On lack of fish and cancer fish" . I suppose the APU comes from this. With a radar patrol and a concentration of a Gepard ZSU platoon at a stationary object and the use of programmable projectiles, they can be effective against modern threats or acting in ambush. In any case, for the Russian Aerospace Forces, this is better than the possible equipping of the Armed Forces with the short-range MSHORAD air defense system from Saab, which combines the Giraffe 1X radar with much better characteristics than the Gepard, the C2 command and control communications platform and the RBS 70 NG remote weapon station, as recently mentioned mentioned by the Swedish press.

[Old Doctor]

I ASK THE KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE NOT TO WATER DESPITE ME, AN AMATEUR, A LOYAL, BUT TO Clarify. I'm not an expert at all, but I'm just curious. I first read about the ZSU "Gepard" about 50 years ago in the journal "Foreign Military Review". I thought about the shells, 49 of them were delivered. The ammunition load of one vehicle is like 000 shells. Arithmetic action. 310: 49: 000 = 310 rounds for ZSU. I don't think they will last long.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

I don't think they will last long.

.... in such conditions as Vnau, they don’t need ammunition at all .... because the guard was created as a near line of defense for XOT air defense systems, well, covered by aviation ... its goal is sedentary aircraft ... so if they don’t sell then they will be shot down in the near future, like on a safari in the Serengeti

[Kaufman]

But the Germans still began to supply weapons to Ukraine .... the beginning of trouble is the beginning. So it will come to the Leopards.

[Nastia makarova]

more or less does not matter

[Uprun]

I’m wondering, how does the older generation on the outskirts relate to equipment with crosses on the sides? It is clear that no one will open his mouth, but in his soul, in his heart .... No matter how life beat us in Russia in the 90s, I still remember with warmth my happy childhood in the USSR ... Young people can be brainwashed rewrite history...

[Landwarrior]

Math lesson
49k shells... Gepa has 680 shells for 2 barrels (340 per barrel). I.e. 72+ full b/c....
The rate of fire of Oerlikons is about 500 rpm (550 top-end) ... How long will these shells last?

[Mouse]

Tank games, when they turn into reality shows and games of Gods in our minds, then they will start in a new country with a different capital. There is a proposal to the Zelensky people. It threatens to merge alliances for one big software system and a new world.